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Palin's Internet Interview

With John Ziegler of HowObamaGotElected.com.

I don't like this interview. I was trying to figure out why. I think I know. Even though it's interesting to know about Palin's reaction to her mistreatment by the media, I think we are now getting well oversaturated on such personal stuff. It's too much the Heroine's Tale, which is nice and all, but we're ultimately looking for a leader, not someone with a tale of hardship.

The media screwed her -- this is obvious. Maybe she should just move past such questions -- not letting them off the hook, but also not dwelling on them -- and make her interviewers focus on substantive, political questions.

I, of course, love to slam the media for its bias. A lot of readers and commenters love it too. I'm just not sure if it's a very savvy use of Sarah Palin's time to comment upon it herself.

This is Ziegler's pet issue (no offense intended). I get why he's asking, and I get why Palin's answering. I just think at some point she has to pivot from a defense of the campaign to speaking purely about the issues ahead. I think this stuff kind of diminishes her. It's too much celebrity-type stuff, not enough statesman-type coverage.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe she has to do this now, and get it all on the record, and the time for the pivot is later. But sometime she needs to pivot.


Posted by: Ace at 11:58 PM



Comments

1 She needs to do two things:

1.  Run for the Senate.

2.  Get a seat on the Foreign Relations Committee.

Then, we're talking.  I'm a little with you, Ace--without some work on her weak points (and they are there), she's Dan Quayle in 1996 staggering around with a very misplaced and quixotic sense of entitlement.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 08, 2009 12:02 AM (ZylhF)

2 I liked the interview. Of course, I would be pissed off too, if the msm and anonymous bloggers were attacking my family. I think she wanted to get some stuff off her chest. I can't fault the woman for that.

Posted by: Ginger at January 08, 2009 12:07 AM (M3d12)

3 I just think at some point she has to pivot from a defense of the campaign to speaking purely about the issues ahead.

Bingo... wherever she leads, I will follow...



Posted by: bmeuppls at January 08, 2009 12:08 AM (lNXkY)

4 I think it was necessary to get this out and over with. It's on the record, and she can now move on to the future of her political career.

I also think she shoulda said to Katie "Ya know, you oughta be on your knees thanking me for propping up your failing career. Bitch."

Posted by: Unclefacts at January 08, 2009 12:10 AM (M+Vfm)

5 One reason I liked her addressing the media whores and their lies is that some people actually think she was too stupid to "catch on" to their backstabbing and lying.  Now that she's addressing it openly,  putting them on notice for next time, they may think twice before playing the gotcha game on her.

At least I can hope......

Posted by: Annie at January 08, 2009 12:10 AM (c3H+i)

6 Agree that she should move on. But, first she should ass-ram a few who have begged for it.

She and some hard-nosed pros can map out a path to the presidency in 2012.

One step at a time.

Posted by: eman at January 08, 2009 12:12 AM (IlCln)

7

Wow, she went after Kennedy? Slams Fey and Couric? Hhahahah; this is the 'Cuda.

Damn, she allegedly hits Arnold a little bit too or Ziegler suggests that she does on his website as she allegedly laughed at his joke that Pete Wilson was the last Republican governor of California.

I wonder if she knows the title to this documentary? hahaha, she's asking for a war with the media.

As for issues, she's completely handcuffed by the Obama stimulus plan, as are all of our governors and congresspersons.  The fake tax cuts make it difficult for our congresspersons to vote against it and our governors (not even Sanford) cannot refuse the money doled out to them, though I suspect 'Cuda will be on the short end in terms of money distributed to Alaska.  Obama has us completely cornered with the stimulus.

She'd be a better Senator than she is a governor.  It's difficult to govern a state as a conservative and maintain a high approval rating just as it's difficult to govern a state as a total liberal.  The Senate allows for you to actually act as a conservative and liberal.

Posted by: Truth Meter at January 08, 2009 12:13 AM (plYMr)

8 Eman - to add to what you said, where the hell are the rest of the Republican party pantywastes?  They are the ones that should be shoving it down somebody's throat.  But , oh no..may ruffle a few vulture feathers.

Posted by: Annie at January 08, 2009 12:14 AM (c3H+i)

9 I don't share your concern, Ace.  She does seem like a leader here.  She's not getting maudlin or weepy, and her anger is appropriate.

Posted by: Kensington at January 08, 2009 12:15 AM (fhJCy)

10

Let's get real, the only guy she could beat is Obama.  She's all-in for 2012, she's probably not thinking about running for re-election or challenging Murkowski (dueling poll numbers, but she's still at 60% approval, probably ten highest in the nation among governors).  People looking back at the 2008 election consider her to be the harshest Obama critic as Hillary is now an Obama ally and McCain became loved again the moment he dropped out.

Wouldn't Mondale have defeated Reagan if Ronnie was doing a shitty job?  I see the same thing in this situation, her 2008 criticisms will have been proven correct by 2012; she's the one who challenged him the hardest in perception-wise.

Posted by: Truth Meter at January 08, 2009 12:17 AM (plYMr)

11 Aaah, Ace, you're just pissed that she started off by dissing anonymous bloggers.

Posted by: notropis. at January 08, 2009 12:17 AM (UX0zU)

12 I haven't watched the video, but I've always loved the Reagan line: "Oh, that's just Sam."

Perfect.

Posted by: right at January 08, 2009 12:17 AM (EquV1)

13 This should be how our Republicans treat the democrats in congress. Take them by the balls and thrash them around like a rag doll. The Republicans need to stop bending over and taking it up the ass.

Posted by: Ginger at January 08, 2009 12:18 AM (M3d12)

14 Yeah, it's a defensive interview but that may not have been her choice, it's the questions she was asked (at least in this clip).

Also, it's just over 2 months since the election so it's still post-mortem time. She'll have to answer these questions at some point. Better to get it out of the way then have to deal with them in a year or two when she needs to relaunch herself (if that's the way she goes). 

If she's still answering this shit in two years, then she's in trouble because it will be hard to get past it and start fresh.

She should do more of this crap now, get it out of the way and then in two years she can say, 'it's as old as post on Ace of Spades, let's move on to something fresh'.

Posted by: DrewM. at January 08, 2009 12:20 AM (hlYel)

15 Palin. Pivot.  Oh, yes....now you're talking, Ace!

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at January 08, 2009 12:20 AM (VFFM4)

16

And by Obama being the only one she could beat, I mean that she is the one of us pubs who is most sytlistically distinct from obama.  When you evaluate all the dem candidates from this cycle, I think it's pretty fair to state that Obama was the person most stylistically different from Bush.  The same principle applies with 'Cuda-Obama.

Posted by: Truth Meter at January 08, 2009 12:21 AM (plYMr)

17

The underlying thing I read was that she was set up by the McCain campaign.  She didn't say it, other than questioning why additional interviews with Couric were unwise and she didn't understand the point.

I don't begrudge her the moment to bitch about what we've all been bitching about.  She did it better than most of us.  She's not currently running for anything and it's important to serve notice to the lap dogs that should she decide to enter the national politcal fray again, she won't be bridled by McFuckHead next time.

Posted by: pistolero at January 08, 2009 12:21 AM (m9n7Y)

18

Speaking as a mother. If I was Palin, I would march into andi sullivan's office and take one of his "journalism" awards, if he has any, and shove it up his ass.

Posted by: Ginger at January 08, 2009 12:22 AM (M3d12)

19 she's Dan Quayle in 1996 staggering around with a very misplaced and quixotic sense of entitlement

Bullshit... she exhibits zero sense of entitlement.. and she's not some birdbrain Quayle... as for quixotic... I might buy that as in this atmosphere she is definitely tilting at windmills and windfarms and windbags... from both sides of the aisle.

They are all scared shitless of her.

Posted by: bmeuppls at January 08, 2009 12:23 AM (lNXkY)

20 I agree with a caveat. She does need to move on. Through little fault of her own, the weeks since the end of the election have been filled with discussion about Palin that involves nearly everything but issues. Ultimately, no matter how much we like her personally, our basic reason for paying attention is because of the issues. Further, I fear CrazyKeith or the fellow travelers at the AP attack her in print, they help to create an impression of her as a victim and as damaged goods among conservatives and GOP primary voters. Folks don't rea.lize this but the 2012 presidential election has already started and left has a strategy. Our side, sigh, doesn't.

The caveat is that her communications team has a strategy that keeps her relatively silent while the Left and their allies in the media do their damnednest to paint her as the antichrist.

If it's not her, then someone needs to be pushing back -- hard -- on her behalf everytime these liberal media knuckleheads diarhea's from the mouth.

I do kinda wish Zieg had edited this a little more before circulating it.

Posted by: Robert_Paulson at January 08, 2009 12:23 AM (zjgCD)

21 I'd hit it.

Posted by: Unclefacts at January 08, 2009 12:25 AM (M+Vfm)

22 I say give Democrat state media a war. And not just because they deserve it.

As I said the other night, Obama is still an unaccomplished narcissist.  There is every reason to suspect that he will fail spectacularly on a regular basis.  Which will drop his poll numbers.  When they dip below the 52% he won with, we're going to have people who got conned into voting for him, but weren't vocal supporters, looking for scapegoats.  The MSM is going to be high on the target list.  Let Palin be the one to say "I was never their friend."

Posted by: Methos at January 08, 2009 12:25 AM (Ce1Ps)

23 She mentioned something about better contact with the lower 48. She is acknowledging that Alaska's isolation is not unimportant in politics. She is likely going to make some sort of move(s) that in essence brings her south. She needs to fight the Dems down here on Dem territory.

Posted by: eman at January 08, 2009 12:30 AM (IlCln)

24 "If I was Palin, I would march into andi sullivan's office and take one of his "journalism" awards, if he has any, and shove it up his ass."

Ginger, have you been peeking at Sully's "secret fantasies" diary?

Posted by: right at January 08, 2009 12:31 AM (EquV1)

25 Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe she has to do this now, and get it all on the record, and the time for the pivot is later. But sometime she needs to pivot.

I wouldn't say you're wrong as perhaps presuming that the issue has been sufficient addressed.  I know I am not alone in being furious that Bush wouldn't defend himself and that the vast majority of the Republican leadership appears to believe "please sir may I have another" is the response to the treatment from the press.  So, yes, I do want to see Palin address it directly.

But I also do not want to see her address that only or primarily.  I most certainly do not want to replace the Cult of Obama with the Cult of Palin (even if our cult has more guns).  I'm willing to give her some slack up until, say, the inauguration.  After that, I would like to see full bore attacks on policy differences.  You are right, there does need to be that pivot. 


Posted by: alexthechick at January 08, 2009 12:32 AM (xUOXi)

26

'I'm just not sure if it's a very savvy use of Sarah Palin's time'

Black hose and stomping boots!!  I can think of something which is a savvy use of her time but Todd the Bod would hurt me....BAD!

I agree with the other posters, let her vent now and in 2012 come out swinging hard, in 2010, she should help with the other races to stay in the loop and the public know.

Posted by: navycopjoe at January 08, 2009 12:33 AM (WJ4ZG)

27

She is a woman. Women need to vent. She vented. I say good on her. Remember it was an internet interview. She's a smart cookie. She has an election to win in two years. If she loses that all is lost and all will be lost because the media and the democrats will make it priority number one to see her defeated. After that they would succeed in making her name mud.

Posted by: Ralph at January 08, 2009 12:34 AM (QZjCr)

28 If she doesn't nip this shit in the bud now, she lets her enemies define her. Bush let all that shit slide off him and for that he's forever the butt of jokes from celebrities who are themselves so dumb they'd shit their pants if it weren't for their agents guidance.

The DemSM won't let go of her as long as they think she's a story to distract from any attention to Obamessiah's clusterfucks, so she'll have to counterattack.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 08, 2009 12:34 AM (miw86)

29 The problem with the media is not bias.  The problem is their blatant dishonesty.  Bias is calling the glass half empty instead of half full.  What the media does is pretend that the glass is radioactive and filled with condensed nerve gas.

So enough with this talk about bias.  Call what they do for what it is: bald faced lying.


Posted by: Lee at January 08, 2009 12:35 AM (VSSI7)

30 I want to see a Celebrity Death Match fight between Palin and couric. Of course, Palin totally kicks ass.

Posted by: Ginger at January 08, 2009 12:37 AM (M3d12)

31 This will me my favorite AoS thread of the year if it doesn't end in calls of apostasy.

Bit of a pattern lately.

Posted by: counter at January 08, 2009 12:37 AM (0xhgx)

32 Quick someone call a waaaambulance.

Posted by: Brian at January 08, 2009 12:39 AM (YrCzB)

33 "Ultimately, no matter how much we like her personally, our basic reason for paying attention is because of the issues."

Robert_Paulson

"I'd hit it."

Unclefacts

Hmmmm. I think you're both right, somehow.

Posted by: notropis. at January 08, 2009 12:41 AM (UX0zU)

34 Aiming that old cliche at anyone in particular, Brian?

Posted by: counter at January 08, 2009 12:41 AM (0xhgx)

35 Republicans have to confront this stuff.  They've "moved on" and "pivoted" themselves right out of the majority, and very nearly out of existence.  And since the RNC and Republican publications (we all know who those are) have proven completely useless at fighting these battles. ( And in Palin's case often on the other side) individuals candidates are going to be forced to do it as she is here.  Republicans will either have to get used to it or buy themselves a more effective media arm.  That is the reality of being a Republican candidate with Krauthamer, Buckley, Parker and Frum biting at your back.  And it looks like it is going to stay the reality for a long, long time.

Posted by: The Obvious at January 08, 2009 12:43 AM (1g+FW)

36 Apostasy!

Posted by: The Obvious at January 08, 2009 12:43 AM (1g+FW)

37 She will never be free of the McCain chain (the MSM as we know it now will not allow this) and will have to address these shackles again in 2012 precisely because this was 'merely' an internet interview. I can't say I recall any presidents in recent memory who were anything other than governors. I hope she stays as gov and finds a successful way of staying in the limelight. 

Posted by: C in Az at January 08, 2009 12:44 AM (okv17)

38 Damn you, Obvious, damn you straight to hell!

Best thread of the year!  And you ruined it!

Posted by: counter at January 08, 2009 12:44 AM (0xhgx)

39

I just think at some point she has to pivot from a defense of the campaign to speaking purely about the issues ahead

Ace: The MSM would  never allow that.

Related breaking news -- Bristol Palin's August 2008 pregnancy announcement caused a 2006 national rise in teen pregnancy rates.

That's news you can use from USA Today.

Posted by: Tinian at January 08, 2009 12:47 AM (Ohodx)

40

It's not just an internet interview....she'll be in Ziegler's documentary!!!  She's going to take some serious heat for this.

Is there anyone talking issues these days?  Obama is pretty much driving the agenda while anyone opposing him is getting painted as an obstructionist.

Posted by: Truth Meter at January 08, 2009 12:47 AM (plYMr)

41 "It's too much the Heroine's Tale, which is nice and all, but we're ultimately looking for a leader, not someone with a tale of hardship..."

Disagree, Ace.

She's still a leader and looked it despite sitting in for an interview by someone expressly interested in showcasing media bias from 2008. The hardship she endured was exceptionally unfair and aggressive; it was enough to show to the world how disingenuous the media is and the fraud it has become. This was the last straw. Now it's just a matter to what degree we are willing to combat it beyond not watching their shows, not using them as sources for news/info, or not buying products from their sponsors. Palin is doing a service a) for herself to illustrate the obvious as target number one, and b) for everyone else to show how sausage and propaganda is constructed and to be aware how rampant and subversive it remains.

Who else will publicly speak out on her behalf? The media? Liberal politicos? "Conservative" politicos? Beltway insiders? Anonymous bloggers relatively few read? She remains her best defense and it's incumbent upon her to defend herself and her family because not enough others who have a big soapbox will rally in enough venues. Most defense will even be conditional with "yeah, buts..."

I thought she was articulate and effective with her communication (knows the audience), remained honest and wholly believable (knows the audience), and championed her cause with obvious rebuttals that normal people in the same shoes would speak (knows the audience). She was a victim and remains a victim despite her being thick-skinned enough not to let it get her down even if she talks about the discomfort of it all.

Go, Sarah. Keep being who you are and doing what you're doing. You've got my vote. Again. When you run without the anchor that was USS McCain, you'll even get my money.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 08, 2009 12:49 AM (sI5Ho)

42 counter, if you were a real conservative, you wouldn't have gotten upset over a little thing like that.

Posted by: Methos at January 08, 2009 12:52 AM (Ce1Ps)

43 Anyone else wish Palin released more web videos like this, FDT-style?

Posted by: Robert_Paulson at January 08, 2009 12:52 AM (zjgCD)

44 I guess the point I'm making is this.  You can dislike these sort of things all you want.  You can claim they diminish your candidates, but until you quit fucking around and create a Republican media that is willing to fight with the MSM you are going to be stuck with this forever. What the Television people did in this election and in the Plame case are the new paradigm.  Pretending you can ignore it away ( or that the Republican media people currently working are up to confronting it) is laughably silly and ultimately suicidal.  I'm probably going to get obscenities screamed at me for saying it, but there it is. 

Posted by: The Obvious at January 08, 2009 12:53 AM (1g+FW)

45 So Ziegler does this documentary. Who exactly is going to see it? Not like it's going to make it on TV and probably not enough draw for movie theaters. I'm all behind him, don't get me wrong, but isn't he just preachin to the choir?

Posted by: C in Az at January 08, 2009 12:54 AM (okv17)

46 Methos, if you were a real conservative, you wouldn't have noticed my upsetiveness.

Apostate!

Posted by: counter at January 08, 2009 12:57 AM (0xhgx)

47 "I can't say I recall any presidents in recent memory who were anything other than governors"

(Soon) Obama? Bush, Sr? Ford? Nixon? Johnson? Kennedy? Eisenhower? Truman? FDR?

(OK, now we're a bit before recent memory)

You're right that there has been a run of governors-to-presidents recently, and for at least two good reasons:

1) Administrative experience is probably the best experience you can have when you're going to head, you know, the Administration. Palin had more honest-to-god useful experience for being President than Obama, McCain and Biden combined.

2) If you haven't been in the House or Senate, you don't have a trail of votes that can be used to embarrass you in an election.

(Obama overcame this second problem, of course, by pretty much never voting on anything.)

I also hope she stays in Alaska as Governor (for her sake, and Alaska's). And maybe switches to the Alaska Independence Party. If she were successful, there would be a bunch of us applying for Alaskan Green Cards.

(I wonder what the citizenship test would involve. Marksmanship? Field-dressing a moose? Repairing a snow machine with a Vise Grips in minus 50 wind chills?)

Posted by: notropis. at January 08, 2009 12:57 AM (UX0zU)

48 >>>Anyone else wish Palin released more web videos like this, FDT-style

FDT type statement videos would be a good use of her time.

Posted by: ace at January 08, 2009 12:58 AM (uzAol)

49 what's FDT stmt video? is this Teh Fred?? Don't mean to be dense...

Posted by: C in Az at January 08, 2009 01:00 AM (okv17)

50 "I'm probably going to get obscenities screamed at me for saying it, but there it is."

Not from me.

For example, look at the conniptions thrown when Coulter goes nuclear on the media. Rather than discussing what Coulter is writing or discussing her research, the debate invariably addresses her style. Substance? They're not interested, but style, that'll get eyeballs. Utter hypocrites complaining about her style when the reason for the booking is [*drumroll*] her style.

So what does aggressive defense or attack get you from the Left and the "Right" (not to be confused with conservatives)? Oh, you're too shrill and we don't like your tone. Best not to offend, ol' chap. Defend youself? Why now you're just a whiny bitch and petty. Enough.

That's bullshit. It's time the little-"r"-right decides it's willing to fight and expose the dishonesty in every venue possible at every opportunity possible as strongly as possible. When you are the victim, tell everyone honestly why you are and explain it in little bitty words, slowly, so everyone can understand. Use high-minded rhetoric when necessary to move beyond victimhood, but remind people what actually happened. Humans have extraordinarily poor memories, particularly when it comes to politics, and new humans grow up into new voters and need the education. It's an ongoing process of dispensing information. The Donks have the edge, so the GOP has some catching up to do.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 08, 2009 01:09 AM (sI5Ho)

51 FDT = teh Fred

Posted by: counter at January 08, 2009 01:11 AM (0xhgx)

52 It's a documentary about media bias, what was she supposed to talk about, polar bears? She was great.

Posted by: Jim62sch at January 08, 2009 01:11 AM (6rQXk)

53 Thanks for the FDT clarification.

Posted by: C in Az at January 08, 2009 01:13 AM (okv17)

54 counter, if you were a real conservative, you wouldn't be lashing out like those juvenile Kosmonauts.

Apostate!

Posted by: Methos at January 08, 2009 01:14 AM (Ce1Ps)

55 The media screwed her -- this is obvious. Maybe she should just move past such questions -- not letting them off the hook, but also not dwelling on them -- and make her interviewers focus on substantive, political questions.

It's not just the media, she's also defining what she went through by being a good soldier for McCains retarded ass (THANK YOU RWS!)

Also, She's gonna be a prominent figure in the midterms when the MSM starts to say "well you are embrassed because you nominated an illitarate retard for VP! NAZI'S"

So this isn't the end of Palin (or her entire family, in-laws, and what do you call the mother of your son in law? It's not sister in law, maybe it is "real daughters mother in law, at law, while there's law" or someting) because she's not VP nominee anymore, and she SHOULD come out strong NOW!

Build the groundwork, and notify everyone that she isn't second seat anymore, Now she is the Governor of Alaska, She's "momma Bear" (though thats gonna give colbert a thrill up his leg) and she ain't gonna take anyones shit, unless they are in charge of her.

She needs to define the terrain for her next conflict, she's doing exactly what she should, she should spend the next 2 years discrediting everyone who went out of their way to discredit her, and call them out individually.

She needs to stop with the broad strokes, and name names.  which is probably the only thing McCain said that I believed. . . I'm just wondering if McCain still has the balls to name names now that he's not president, but just senator from arizona.  Will McCain "name names" like he said?  or was that just rhetoric.

I hope Palin Names names about Blatant media bias, about blatant misrepresentations, and about blatant attempts to paint all republicans as Borgia's, cuz that is what the younger generation of Republicans have against the geriatric democratic ideology.

Want to talk bourgeois? Which is the party of legacy?  Which is the party of rehashed efforts meant only to secure their own authority?  Which party cares none for the people and only for their position?

Palin can be VERY strong, if she has the right handlers, or consultants as long as she never lets up.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at January 08, 2009 01:16 AM (ul7te)

56 She needs to guest host on Rush and of some Fox shows.

Some kind of Palin TV show would be cool. Maybe a ground breaking TV/Internet thing.

Posted by: eman at January 08, 2009 01:17 AM (IlCln)

57 Methos, if you were a real conservative, you'd wear a pocket watch on a chain, look at it, put it into the watch pocket in your vest, and then say, "You know what time it is, it's Reagan time!"

Apostate!

Posted by: counter at January 08, 2009 01:18 AM (0xhgx)

58 Methos, if you were a real conservative, you'd wear a pocket watch on a chain, look at it, put it into the watch pocket in your vest, and then say, "You know what time it is, it's Reagan Sarahcuda time!"

FIFY, counter.

Posted by: Jim62sch at January 08, 2009 01:23 AM (6rQXk)

59 counter, if you were a real conservative, you wouldn't have taped yourself having a three-way with Peggy Noonan and Andrew Sullivan while costumed up as Paris Hilton.

Apostate!

Posted by: Methos at January 08, 2009 01:24 AM (Ce1Ps)

60 Why did Ace embed this video and not the bikini version?

That one was better. I can't remember anything she said, but it was better.

Posted by: eman at January 08, 2009 01:24 AM (IlCln)

61 Jim62sch, I may actually do that.

Posted by: Methos at January 08, 2009 01:27 AM (Ce1Ps)

62 Well, if any of you were real conservatives, you wouldn't be using the internet, since everyone knows that it was developed by state-run universities, government agencies, NSF grants, and public-sector employees.

And don't even get me started on the phone services, geostationary satellites, fiber-optic cables and the subsidies underlying the socialist communications networks.

Real conservatives only communicate via UPS and FedEx, and only when they don't land at "municipal" airports.

Apostates!

Posted by: notropis. at January 08, 2009 01:28 AM (UX0zU)

63 Anonymous Drivel,

Unfortunately I just don't see much indication that Repubs have any inclination to catch up, or that they are ever going to get it..

Posted by: The Obvious at January 08, 2009 01:29 AM (1g+FW)

64 Methos, if you were a real conservative, you never would have watched that bootleg video with your pants off.

Apostate!




Posted by: counter at January 08, 2009 01:30 AM (0xhgx)

65 How many autobiographies did the guy who just got elected to the Presidency produce? I cannot, for the life of me, remember.

Posted by: Attila Girl at January 08, 2009 01:31 AM (TpmQk)

66 If you were a real conservative you would know! Apostate!

Posted by: The Obvious at January 08, 2009 01:33 AM (1g+FW)

67 Ace, if you were a real conservative, you never would have reluctantly supported the financial bailout.  Apostate!

Coulter, if you were a real conservative, you'd stop being provocative to prove a point.  Apostate!

Reagan, if you were a real conservative, you would have supported the Civil Rights Act of '64 and saved us from having to argue you're not a cross burner.  Apostate!

P.J. O'Rourke, if you were a real conservative, you wouldn't have said funny and offensive things in your youth.  Apostate!

As the only true believer left, I'm feeling pretty awesome but I'm not sure how many elections I'm going to win with my one vote.

Posted by: counter at January 08, 2009 01:37 AM (0xhgx)

68 Counter,
As many as the Republican party as it is presently constituted will win.

Posted by: The Obvious at January 08, 2009 01:39 AM (1g+FW)

69 Maybe a couple more, even.

Posted by: The Obvious at January 08, 2009 01:41 AM (1g+FW)

70 Obvious, I think so.

Quite a few are arguing we can do more with less though.

Posted by: counter at January 08, 2009 01:42 AM (0xhgx)

71 counter if you were a real conservative, you wouldn't obsess with this petty argument and keep me from much needed sleep.

And if you were a conservative, I would have given you your second vote.

But you're not, cockholsting apostate!

Posted by: Methos at January 08, 2009 01:46 AM (Ce1Ps)

72 notropis, if you were a real conservative, you'd be man enough to pick the fight when we aren't otherwise engaged.

Obvious, if you were a real conservative, you wouldn't be talking to that forsaken apostate.

Apostates!

You, too eman, and your bikini talk.

Posted by: Methos at January 08, 2009 01:50 AM (Ce1Ps)

73 A picture of Palin over the line "HowObamaGotElected" is a Daily Show joke. If this is friendly media, we're screwed.

Posted by: bgates at January 08, 2009 01:50 AM (kAULt)

74 Methos, if you were a real conservative, you'd be able to read blogs while you slept and hand-tailor a flashy cape for an invisible man you've never met.

Douche-holstering, milky-load-bearing, Pelosian manwhore, apostate!

Posted by: counter at January 08, 2009 01:53 AM (0xhgx)

75 You, too eman, and your bikini talk.
Posted by: Methos

You looked for it. We know you did.

Posted by: eman at January 08, 2009 01:55 AM (IlCln)

76 I didn't actually look for it.  I think Governor Palin deserves some respect.  The nude painting, sure, but that was more about the artist's incestuous relationship with his model.

And counter wins.  I can't top that without running afoul of ace's rules.

ace, if you were a real conservative, you wouldn't put so many motherfucking, cocksucking, douche-bearing, pillow-biting, tentacle-loving restrictions on my free speech.

Apostate!

Posted by: Methos at January 08, 2009 02:02 AM (Ce1Ps)

77

 

geez.

An internet interview with maybe a documentary later?

Who the fuck will see this?

Earl the farmer from Ohio?

fuck.

waste of fucking time and energy even discussing the ramifications of this 'interview'.

let me know when it's on 60 minutes.

p.s - obama sucks cock.

 

Posted by: Juan McQueeg at January 08, 2009 02:04 AM (d54BQ)

78 You thought about looking for it.

Posted by: eman at January 08, 2009 02:04 AM (IlCln)

79 I don't question the timing...

Until "someone" dishes her the ball, a pivot is an unnecessary maneuver.

Posted by: Fritz at January 08, 2009 02:07 AM (3Bqev)

80 a pivot is an unnecessary maneuver.

No, but I bet it looks great on a Palin.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at January 08, 2009 02:20 AM (ul7te)

81 The part where she reacts to the Tina Fey clip was instructive.

She was a mamma T-Rex for a second there.

It was a shot across the bow.

Posted by: eman at January 08, 2009 02:33 AM (IlCln)

82 Ace, think you're wrong here. This is not a continuation of the media sham on Palin. The media is continuing to attack her daughter and her fiance. There has been no let up.

And it goes beyond Levi's mother's drug allegation. The media are attacking Levi in the same manner as Joe el Plumber. That he and Bristol are high school drop outs, that Levi is working as a apprentice electrician without a high school diploma.

Posted by: VP Joseph Biden at January 08, 2009 02:53 AM (NLtVk)

83 "Speaking as a mother. If I was Palin, I would march into andi sullivan's office and take one of his "journalism" awards, if he has any, and shove it up his ass."

Why reward him?

Posted by: Kensington at January 08, 2009 03:50 AM (fhJCy)

84 It's not just Ziegler's pet issue; it's the subject of his documentary which this segment is a part of. Too bad she's not VP, so we can't ask her about Gaza.

Posted by: Tattoo de Plane at January 08, 2009 04:32 AM (EJmQG)

85 I think this is a good first step back for Palin. She has to do something to fight back and re-establish her identity. Otherwise she will allow herself to be defined by the Tina Feys and Andrew Sullivans of the world. A lot of people will see this, it will be linked to and parsed by ordinary people and pundits alike. The internet may be the exact place to get her message out. The MSM won't allow it to happen.      

Posted by: Pancake at January 08, 2009 04:42 AM (yA2dJ)

86 I think Ace kind of has a point-- if Palin never talks about anything but media bias (which I grant is real and severe), she's going to lose.  So at some point, she has to start demonstrating an ability to run over interviewers and talk about what she wants to talk about and not what they want her to talk about, because there aren't going to be many friendly interviewers who'll just roll over and let her set the message of their own free will.  On the other hand, there's no major issues to push right at the moment, because nothing's really happening in government until after the inauguration, so she doesn't actually have anything to talk about besides media bias at the moment.  She's got to wait for the Democrats to propose some actual legislation or at least select an issue for discussion before she can attack them on it, because I don't think she has the media "pull" to jsut pick her own topics.  She probably should do some Youtoob-style spots about various pertinent issues, just to get her thoughts out and build a reputation as a conservative thinker and speaker, but she'll have to do them consistently well over a fairly long period of time to build an audience and a following.

Posted by: Calix at January 08, 2009 05:01 AM (8d3U/)

87 I see your point Ace,but she has to respond to it and challenge it because very few if any in the media will.
 The debate helps expose the liberal activism in the media
and hopefully will expose the hypocrisy and bigotry of the left to the "15 minute" news cycle average American.
 Pravda West has to be challenged.
They got away with a lot of bullsh!t calling Bush a "liar" and
terrible reporting on the war.I feel if Bush had fought back more,all the Plame/Bush lied/Haliburton/Torture Micheal Moore propaganda could have been put in it's place and the Republican party would not have suffered such dissatisfaction in the public eye.

Posted by: Baxter Greene at January 08, 2009 05:11 AM (5NHPy)

88

" The media is continuing to attack her daughter and her fiance."

No, this isn't true, because Matt Lauer told Coulter that the MSM cares about the American nuclear family, they care about traditional families.

Posted by: Senator, Advisor Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller at January 08, 2009 05:53 AM (ZSDVz)

89

I think we are now getting well oversaturated on such personal stuff……

 

Maybe she should just move past such questions -- not letting them off the hook, but also not dwelling on them -- and make her interviewers focus on substantive, political questions…..

 

Well Ace, that’s all well and good but if you read the opening statement from the video it was made as a part of a documentary regarding the press malpractice of the past election. Based on that, the questions and responses were already determined before she opened her mouth.

 

Perhaps we do need to move on to other topics for her, but the fact that the media has become nothing more than a propaganda arm for the Demoncrap Party needs to be kept in the public eye for all to see. What will be interesting is to see if any of the networks pick up this documentary. Someone is probably wasting a lot of money there because no network will ever show it.

Posted by: Vic at January 08, 2009 06:21 AM (f6os6)

90 She can pivot when she is speaking at the CPAC. I hope she gives a rousing speech there!

Posted by: prom at January 08, 2009 06:23 AM (/s6w4)

91 I think Ace is completely wrong. The problem is not media bias or talking about media bias. Is there anyone who thinks Governor Palin can run for President and not have another hostile interview with Katie Couric? If you think anything is going to change Katie's MO, you are fucking crazy. Media bias is like the weather. You can complain about it but you damn well better be prepared for it or you are going to die.

The problem is Palin is not manning up. Sure she admitted the interview went bad on the first day. But instead of owning that failure and working like hell to make up the deficit on the next day, her response was to want to cancel the rest of the interview. WTF!!!? Did Reagan ever have to cancel an interview because he couldn't give it back as good as he got it. The only way any Republican is ever going to have a "good" interview with Katie Couric is to beat her at her own game.

Palin needs to practice hostile interviews until she can do them in her sleep. I recommend hiring Ann Coulter as a consultant. I want Palin to beat Couric like a drum at the next interview.

Posted by: klrtz1 at January 08, 2009 06:30 AM (kMka0)

92 I thought she did great. I loved the Couric slam. Hot Air has an interview she did with a Canadian dude up. It's o.k., she does fine, he's kinda a douche, but at least he is polite and lets her talk. As for her doing this, why not? She was asked, she got screwed, she should be able to defend herself. Should she still be talking about this in 2 years, uh, no. But, if we can ooh and aah over O for 2 solid years, we can give this woman a little time to have some come back time. She won't run for Senate, Murkowski is the porky queen and they love her. Cuda best just do her thang in the Gov office, and make sure she gets re-elected. Some interviews, fill-ins on talk radio, guest host Hannity or something.

Posted by: di butler at January 08, 2009 06:36 AM (qPIRP)

93 56 She needs to guest host on Rush and of some Fox shows.

Some kind of Palin TV show would be cool. Maybe a ground breaking TV/Internet thing.

I like the Rush guest host idea. Cream rises to the top. It highlighted Tony Snow's Genuine Talent and Character.

And if she can't hold her own there so be it ... I knew after one episode of  Huckabee's show I couldn't do four years with him as El capitan

I'm Randall Haisma ... Breitbart  said anonymous posters were pussies on Red Eye the other night ...

btw, thank's to whoever on here clued me in to Red Eye , it's now an addiction on the DVR

Posted by: hiltop at January 08, 2009 06:42 AM (5EbLC)

94 Yup

"I just think at some point she has to pivot from a defense of the campaign to speaking purely about the issues ahead"


I agree the best defense is an offense. Damn the torpedos full steam ahead.

Posted by: T Marley at January 08, 2009 07:20 AM (dFsoN)

95

Palin hosting Rush is one of the most ridiculous ideas ever.  Rush's audience is already conservative.  Hosting that show does absolutely nothing to raise her image among the people who don't already know what she's about.  Al it would do is allow people to endlessly praise her about how awesome she is.

Preaching to the choir isn't what is going to help her move forward politically.  She needs to find a forum that will appeal to the middle and give her a chance to really show middle America what she's about.  She needs to find a way to mix it up and show the people who the 'Cuda really is.

Posted by: Steve L. at January 08, 2009 07:22 AM (Gkhxf)

96 95

Palin hosting Rush is one of the most ridiculous ideas ever.  Rush's audience is already conservative.  Hosting that show does absolutely nothing to raise her image among the people who don't already know what she's about.  Al it would do is allow people to endlessly praise her about how awesome she is.

Preaching to the choir isn't what is going to help her move forward politically.  She needs to find a forum that will appeal to the middle and give her a chance to really show middle America what she's about.  She needs to find a way to mix it up and show the people who the 'Cuda really is.

Respectfully disagree, I think she's way cool , but she needs to hone her chops.


Posted by: hiltop at January 08, 2009 07:50 AM (5EbLC)

97

I think she wanted to get some stuff off her chest.

Black hose and stomping boots!! 

Bunk!

Posted by: John F Not Kerry at January 08, 2009 07:58 AM (HF2US)

98

How many other Governors host political talk shows? I think that is an idea whose time has not come.

Posted by: Vic at January 08, 2009 08:04 AM (f6os6)

99

What she really needs to do is take care of business in Alaska and do some campaigning for a few Republicans during the 2010 election, making sure that the ones she campaigns for are real conservatives.

Posted by: Vic at January 08, 2009 08:07 AM (f6os6)

100 "Our administration wanting to shrink government"

This is where she's going to have a hard time. If she wanted to shrink government why did she increase Alaska's operating expenses by 20% in the last two budgets? Statements like this will come back to haunt her, like her bridge to nowhere rhetoric. That's why she avoids the issues, when you really look at how she governs; tax increases, increasing the size of government, bailouts, obstructiveness, etc., etc. it doesn't or shouldn't play well with conservatives.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 08, 2009 08:09 AM (JV2V8)

101 But sometime she needs to pivot.

This line reminds me of that Friends episode when they are moving a couch up the stairs.

Posted by: DCA at January 08, 2009 08:16 AM (DLuhR)

102 You're wrong Ace.  The time to pivot is after the January 20 when congress starts to screw things up.  The election is still on people's minds, and it is appropriate that she deal with this now, so that she can pivot and be focused when The One and Congress starts enacting socialism 2.0 and screwing up the war on terror.

Posted by: Sal at January 08, 2009 08:26 AM (yzcVX)

103

Was she ever given a proper opportunity to answer these questions about the media?  I can't think of a substantive moment when she had the chance to confront the bias issue as directly as this interview.  As far as I know, no one from the MSM ever let her dive into that.  Now that this is done, she's said her piece about that topic and can move on.  This needed to be done, though.

 

Posted by: EC at January 08, 2009 08:35 AM (mAhn3)

104 love Sarah. but agree that like she once said about Hillary, you have to just walk it off not be perceived as 'whining' about it...women have to 'rise above' it and shxt like that, don't know why  (I mean Huck was pretty clear he thought he got screwed), but that's what they tell us...

Posted by: MiM at January 08, 2009 08:38 AM (XzmTl)

105

Ace

When has she really had a chance to respond to anything? I agree that now it's time to move on, but it's really only fair to allow her the chance to express herself. What happened to her was utterly disgraceful, and we ought never fail to remind the media of that sad fact.

Posted by: drjohn at January 08, 2009 08:39 AM (49tlQ)

106 Ziegler is a radio guy. Nothing he does should be filmed. This is his new pet? His old pet was OJ Simpson. And he sports a woody when he talks about Tiger Woods. The man develops Andrew Sullivan size obsessions. He starts off good then seems to go way off into the abyss. 

Posted by: A Bouts at January 08, 2009 08:51 AM (RH/7q)

107 I knew Governor Palin was in trouble as soon as the social cons began the stampede to make her the New Female Pope of all Christianity. Having a lot of kids does not make you more pious, more conservative or more American than someone else. The Kennedy family has a lot of kids. That doesn't make them conservative. The extreme (not all) of the social cons destroyed Palin's libertarian cred and made her just another easily mockable figure for the Left because she supposedly represented all Christianity in this country.

Posted by: Dirk at January 08, 2009 08:56 AM (EiJuR)

108

Meh.  I can certainly understand her desire to set the record straight but I'm not sure a puff piece documentary which will only be watched by the faithful is gonna get it done.  If you go to Ziegler's site, HowObamaGotElected.com, one of the points he makes repeatedly is that the vast majority of people only know what they hear from the MSM or their own friendly news source (lefty's MSNBC, righty's talk radio).  Who is gonna watch this but Palin fans?  Think they need convincing?  Sullivan and his merry band of lunatics still insist that Trig isn't Palin's baby.  How exactly is this documentary gonna change the minds of the mindless?  Besides, name me one conservative, aside from Huckabee who the MSM loved to build up so he could block candidates with an actual chance, who wasn't hatcheted by the MSM.  

If she wants to rehab her image she needs to go around the MSM and do like Reagan did.  He got written off early as a Grade B actor but remade his image by speaking directly to the people about issues and his command of them, not bitching about the press.  Seemed to work ok for him.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 08, 2009 09:03 AM (VW9/y)

109

name me one conservative, aside from Huckabee who the MSM loved to build up…

 

Based on his tax and spend record in Arkansas Huckabee was a religious liberal. In fact based on all of his record I couldn’t see much of anything that he was conservative about.

 

Also, in speaking of Reagan, the media was still bashing him for months after he got out of office. I am currently reading the “rewrite” of The Stand by Steven king which has restored some of the edited out parts from the original transcript. King takes multiple shots at Reagan, Bush I, and all Republicans in the book. Now I know that King is not the MSM but his stance was really reflective of all the media back in the day.

 

The way I remember it the media never got around to recognizing anything in Reagan until after the Soviet Union failed and then they had to be dragged kicking and screaming into it.

Posted by: Vic at January 08, 2009 09:16 AM (f6os6)

110

Based on his tax and spend record in Arkansas Huckabee was a religious liberal. In fact based on all of his record I couldn’t see much of anything that he was conservative about.

  

I agree, but he ran as a southern conservative with a very conservative message and accept for places like this rarely got called on it.  The media loved him, I believe because they knew he had zero chance if he did get the nomination and it was helpful to them to throw sand in the gears of the Republican primary.  Contrast him with Palin.  Both gov's with records that could be exploited, big on faith with "colorful" families.  Huck got the kid glove treatment, Palin got savaged. 

  

I detest Huckabee but he did exceptionally well with southern religious conservatives who had one overriding issue, his faith.  It was because the MSM never really took him seriously as a threat.  Palin was the VP nominee and needed to be destroyed.  If Huck had been selected over Palin the MSM would have turned on him too.  Look how they turned on Mav once he secured the nomination.

 

Republicans and conservatives in particular will never win with the MSM.  Bitching about it may be cathartic but it ain't gonna win any votes.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 08, 2009 09:32 AM (VW9/y)

111

Ironically in light of Obama success, only concrete accomplishments will push Palin off the perceived dumb list.  She could have a perfect interview on every morinng show from here to 2012 and the stench that the MSM put on her would not have worn off.  Unfortunately, the only stage options she has to make a mark is Governor or Senator from Alaska and that will be very difficult to do. I think its still worth the try though as she definitely could win a Republican nomination and Obama could have screwed up so much that whoever is his opponent would have a good chance of being elected.  

I'm a Palin fan but would prefer Romney as my 2012 nominee.

Posted by: polynikes at January 08, 2009 09:32 AM (m2CN7)

112 She's no Bobby Jindal- I supported her but I think Jindal brings all of her positives with a better resume.
She is making a mistake going after the MSM- you craft a great message and hammer it home. If it's not good enough for the 52 percent dolts, so be it.
And lets be honest here- a 1 term governor of Alaska was a reach by McCain and there will be better candidates in 4 years.

Posted by: jjshaka at January 08, 2009 09:37 AM (/rgwU)

113 "Maybe she has to do this now, and get it all on the record, and the time for the pivot is later."

Palin has the right and the need to put the abuse on the record, and better before the inauguration than to harbor angst down the road. THAT would be pathetic.

She is tough, and takes pride in having thick skin. She will get over the need to let it out sooner than later. She held it in this long. The interview was timed well, and she wasn't gushing uncontrollably. Obama becomes president next week.

Now we can put it to rest behind us, and get on to domestic and international matters that affect our survival, sticking to our guns, holding our ground on taxation and private property, and remaining faithful to whatever conservative belief system that Obama eschews for not blindly following his lead hopin' to change the world with Marx.

Posted by: maverick muse at January 08, 2009 09:40 AM (F1b/5)

114 Now is it true that "Excitable Andy" is really a space alien ?

I wonder if he would submit to a blood and and a brain scan to check this out ?

Posted by: Neo at January 08, 2009 09:55 AM (Yozw9)

115 I have no problem with this interview.  More, please.

If she's as good as we think/hope she is, she'll come back and give some of these media turds the Palin moose treatment.

Still livid whenever I think about what they did to her, all while rolling out the red carpet for the vapid, insubstantial Obama (not to mention the borderline retard Joe Biden).

GRRRRRRR . . . .

Posted by: tsj017 at January 08, 2009 09:56 AM (TBwnU)

116

JS

True, I agree

Posted by: Vic at January 08, 2009 10:00 AM (f6os6)

117

This interview was part of a documentary on media bias.  NOW do you

"get" her responses?

Posted by: Amanda at January 08, 2009 10:00 AM (ttAt1)

118 107 I knew Governor Palin was in trouble as soon as the social cons began the stampede to make her the New Female Pope of all Christianity. Having a lot of kids does not make you more pious, more conservative or more American than someone else. The Kennedy family has a lot of kids. That doesn't make them conservative. The extreme (not all) of the social cons destroyed Palin's libertarian cred and made her just another easily mockable figure for the Left because she supposedly represented all Christianity in this country.

Posted by: Dirk at January 08, 2009 08:56 AM (EiJuR)

I don't know if I agree with that.  If that has happened it's because of MSM misrepresentation of who she is.  I have strong libertarian leanings and she's still got plenty of cred with me. 

At the same time, I don't think we need to coronate her for 2012 just yet.  If she were to run in 2012 she would have to start campaigning for the primary in 2010, the same time she's up for reelection in AK.  It would be tough to make that work, and you know damn well that for a Republican, the media would say one term as governor "isn't enough experience".  I think she should take a wait and see approach and focus on winning reelection as Gov.  Of course if Barry O is a disaster of Carteresque proportions she could probably win handily.

Posted by: ol-dirty-/b/tard at January 08, 2009 10:06 AM (IoUF1)

119

No wonder univsersities have a liberal bias. You wingnuts are waay too dumb to get in (except for MBA's).

Posted by: Tom Dubya at January 08, 2009 10:13 AM (8Ekom)

120 I think she has to do this.  Those of us informed and immersed in these political blogs are not the normal American voter.  We are not the intended audience for this - we already know what happened.  The point is to gather more support from outside our circle, and also to throw some red meat out there for the masses.

Posted by: connertown at January 08, 2009 10:34 AM (lhJxs)

121 18

Speaking as a mother. If I was Palin, I would march into andi sullivan's office and take one of his "journalism" awards, if he has any, and shove it up his ass.

Posted by: Ginger at January 08, 2009 12:22 AM (M3d12)

STOP TEASING ME LIKE THAT!!! Although I'd prefer you send your husband to shove foreign objects up my ass whenever it becomes necessary.


Posted by: andi sullivan at January 08, 2009 10:40 AM (IoUF1)

122 Ace, I disagree with your assessment of this interview.

Sarah states right up front that Barry asked for his family to be off limits, and the media respected that...which confirms the saying that 'if it weren't for double standards, liberals wouldn't have any.' 

For her to speak out and set the record straight speaks to her willingness to address the lies perpetuated about the family she loves.  I find no fault in that whatsoever.

If we are all 'saturated' by Palin family info, it is certainly not her doing. 

Posted by: 8starsnorth at January 08, 2009 10:47 AM (7qImT)

123 I knew Governor Palin was in trouble as soon as the social cons began the stampede to make her the New Female Pope of all Christianity. Having a lot of kids does not make you more pious, more conservative or more American than someone else.  ... The extreme (not all) of the social cons destroyed Palin's libertarian cred and made her just another easily mockable figure for the Left because she supposedly represented all Christianity in this country.

 Posted by: Dirk at January 08, 2009 08:56 AM (EiJuR)

Not really..

I think just the fact that she is as pro-life as she is and with the birth of Trig was enough for the MSM to bring out the long knives. 

if she just lip serviced the pro lifers would be one thing.. but to actually LIVE it and give birth to Trig..

The religion of the Left may be the Environment but it was Abortion (still is to some degree)

Posted by: Dave C at January 08, 2009 10:50 AM (Xr2Pm)

124 I agree completely with your analysis.

Posted by: The Oracle at January 08, 2009 11:37 AM (DRoG4)

125

If the venerable Ms is the Republicraticals' opined   I'd be looking for a 60:40 split(2012), and that, if O is only marginally successful~ 

Not that I want to rain on this kum bi ah,,, just trying to keep it real... narrowing the conservative focus, outreach, won't bring them back to the fore~

Posted by: esin at January 08, 2009 12:32 PM (Y227l)

126 I respectfully disagree Ace. I liked the interview a lot. I like a fighter, especially when they are fighting for their family's honor. It may have have celebrity-type of feel, if she were seeking publicity. Due to the fact that she has turned down a bunch of high profile interviews, and agreed to do this, it is clearly not a publicity stunt. She feels strongly about the media bias, and smears against her family. I think she wants to do her part to get it corrected. Since she is still dealing with it on a daily basis, not to mention the threat level against her high (i.e. the church is burning).She can deal with policy questions later. For now she has a State to run and clearing her name should be at the top of hr to do list. Yes, ultimately we are looking for a leader, but I want a leader that isn't afraid of a fight.

Posted by: Stacy at January 08, 2009 03:03 PM (sjgdE)

127 I think she would come off alot better if she didn't lie all the time. I mean, she even told 5 different, totally incongruous stories about telling her kids about her decision to run for vp. Why does she need to lie about that?
And the Harry Potter thing was ridiculous. "Harry Potter wasn't even out then" she claimed. The 2nd book was out by then and 4 people claimed that book was at the top of her hit list.

She was an absolute embarrassment to our party. The press got to slam her because she deserved it.

If she continues to be a focal point for the party we have no chance at turning our image around.

Posted by: Bill D. at January 08, 2009 03:48 PM (MN+T/)

128

Yes. This -

"Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe she has to do this now, and get it all on the record, and the time for the pivot is later."

Posted by: Dave at January 08, 2009 05:08 PM (KoZTQ)

129 Your not in our party Bill D. Your a troll so STFU! Get a life you frickin losers.Where did you get your fun Harry Potter facts. The first Harry Potter book was released in 1998. Governor Palin took office in 1996. Her dust up with the ultra-lib librarian was in the first year of her administration, and she never tried to ban any books. If you Obots plan on using lies to distort the Governors record for the next four years, prepare yourselves. We are organizing, we are armed with facts, and OUR message will prevail to the public because it is based on truth. You want a war you got one.

Posted by: Stacy at January 08, 2009 07:03 PM (sjgdE)

130 I respectfully disagree, Ace.

If Sarah wanted to melodramatically play-up her victimhood status, she would have not turned down the NOprah.

I fully appreciate her taking shots at the media.  Someone of her political stature desperately needs to. 

In addition, her policy bona fides have already been cemented with me.  There are plenty of interviews that illustrate her on-camera sure-footedness.   In fact, I am one of the few conservatives that thinks she could easliy take the US Senate route to the WH in '12, just like the One did.

For all to admire about Coulter, she sells Sarah a bit short by saying Sarah needs to wait until 2016.

Palin/Jindal '12

Posted by: tahDeetz at January 09, 2009 09:03 AM (DmeVV)

131 Let her reswpond fully now and then over the next four years let her establish policy chops as the son of satan and Jimmy the Worst President Ever Carter fucks up this country beyond recognition.

2012...49 state victory.


Posted by: Jeremiah God Damn AmeriKKKa Wright at January 09, 2009 03:44 PM (rZa0e)

132 I prefer her comments to let us know she is a real person, not some political person.

Maybe this is what we, the voters should be looking for...

Posted by: ChuckTX at January 09, 2009 11:55 PM (bGXnq)

133 I liked the interview. Now she is on the record and addressed the media bias, good for her.  We'll see how this all plays out in the next 2 years.  I think the economy and country will continue to tank making Obama and the Dems on shakey grounds for the midterm elections.

Posted by: Retro at January 10, 2009 04:55 AM (WPUPp)

134 I like Sarah P and "get her" completely.

I didn't see this Ziegler video clip as showcasing of victimology, or anything like that. Sarah Palin was manhandled in a disgusting way by the press and the blogosphere.  I couldn't believe the destructive lengths to which they went, and she has every right (even obligation) to point that out.   

The clips from The View (those dumb chicks laughing about teen pregnancy) and the brain dead Couric's observations should send a chill up your spine. 

I agree with Ace's observation..."Maybe she has to do this now, and get it all on the record, and the time for the pivot is later. But sometime she needs to pivot."

Posted by: tanstaafl at January 10, 2009 11:38 AM (M/8zd)

135 Stacy: If you Obots plan on using lies to distort the Governors record for the next four years, prepare yourselves. We are organizing, we are armed with facts, and OUR message will prevail to the public because it is based on truth. You want a war you got one.

That would be your first mistake.  Democrats have been making factual sense for going on decades now.  Hasn't helped us none.  Stick with your demagoguery and fear-mongering.  Much more effective. 

We're coming around on that idea too, haven't you noticed?

Posted by: jvill at January 12, 2009 11:32 PM (OCoX6)

136 There's also this thing where she wore thin on the American People after only eight weeks. Really, really thin, don't delude yourselves.

I can't imagine her sustaining a Presidential candidacy over 18 months. Na gon hoppen.

Posted by: Jena at January 13, 2009 02:00 AM (Bf0yG)

137 UH oh ... consult your playbook again, dude: implying that She Who Heeds Teh Voice Of God is anything less than perfect in all she says & does = very serious no-no ... looks to me like maybe someone's bucking for some Operation Leper "tough love" around here!
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Did you just imply that Sarah "Pitbull With Lipstick" Palin is an emo crybaby who's still suffering from a chronic case of butthurt even MONTHS after deep-sixing McCain's campaign? Or that (gasp) people are even getting TIRED of her? Yow! You may've just bought yourself some real grief downstream for this one - just read the abundant dissent from the fanboys above for handy reference ... now picture it multiplied many many times in both scale &, um, sincerity - in the form of hatemail. I hope for your sake imagining is as close as you have to get - some others haven't been nearly so fortunate. Do not slag their hero, even politely, even reasonably - period.
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Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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