1
How is this any different from the Christians during the Crusades?

2 This is what liberals, fond of painting the enemy as Supermen who cannot be defeated (as propagandists painted the Germans and Japanese in WWII), never seem to get. Does war exact a brutal, bloody price on America? It sure does. But they never contemplate that it also exacts a toll on the enemy.

Nominated for Strawman Argument of the Year for 2009.  It's early, but this one's going to be hard to beat.

3
By the way, isn't there a Muslim holiday coming up? Ramadan? Kwaanza?

Israel better halt their attacks during the next Muslim holiday.

4
How many children at weddings does Israel need to murder before they end their aggression, anyway?

5
Hey, AemJeff, I got this thread covered, man. Go find another one.

6 I agree with the lefty up above-- it's a ridiculous strawman argument to make.

7 One of the reasons Christianity is popular with women is that it treats women and men equally, for the most part.  There are some quibbles about who can be the head of a local church, but as far as the "rules" of the religion and its theology, all are equal.

Islam, on the other hand, seeks to impose a hunter-gatherer lifestyle and code of conduct.

8 PS David Petraeus is my best friend and we had this planned all along.

It was an inside-outside game we were working. Pretty good, huh?

9 Hey, AemJeff, I got this thread covered, man. Go find another one.

Heh.  You're doing a fine job, dude.  I'll leave you to it.

10

In other news, when is AoShq going to stop phoning it in? If Gabe didn't have to get up and go to work and thereby take the time to throw up an open post, this blog would sleep till noon.

Damn, Plover,  that didn't take long.  Guess Ace reads the posts after all.

Kemp

11

This is what liberals, fond of painting the enemy as Supermen who cannot be defeated (as propagandists painted the Germans and Japanese in WWII), never seem to get.

Umm, wait...I thought liberals painted the enemy as hapless rustic goatherds forced to defend their homes, their families, their very way of life! against the imperialistic depredations of warmongering Bushitler/Halliburton.

Script-doctor, stat.

12
They're poor and uneducated. All they need are jobs and schools, man. Why is this so hard for you corporate fascists warmongers to understand?

13 I would suggest forwarding this story over to Pandagon and Feministing for the usual predictable reactions.

14 Bravo. Ace. Bravo.

15
It's their fucking culture, man

Stop judging them with your xtianists values.

16

Stop judging them with your xtianists values.

Posted by: stupid typical fucking moonbat at January 06, 2009 11:11 AM (wq3+H)

Dang! -- stepped outside for a smoke and missed my chance.

17

Look let me try to explain this... you can't find any consistency in what liberals say about our enemies.  Sometimes they are supermen.  Sometimes they are pathetic victims.  Sometimes they are utterly evil, especially if they once were photographed with an American diplomat or official, but usually they are simply frustrated kite-flyers who mean no harm to anyone except for the occasional need to re-lube the chipper.

The only place you are going to find any consistency here is in the liberal's view of America.  No matter what the situation: America. is. wrong.

Try to keep up, morons.

18

That count is off by slightly less than 5000.

 

Did the counters recently re-deploy to the Minnesota Board of Canvassers?

19 Does Code Pink know about any of this? I'm sure it would change their minds.

20

I would suggest forwarding this story over to Pandagon and Feministing for the usual predictable reactions.

If there was any justice in this world, Amanda and Jill and the rest of them would be subjected to Hot Muslim Love, and beatings.

21

Hot Muslim Love, and beatings.

Repetitive. 

22

>>No matter what the situation: America. is. wrong.

Except when a liberal is in charge.  Think not?  Wait and see.  Liberals will line up behind Obama and by extension whatever he does in the name of America.  Obama could declare war on Nepal and designate the Dalai Lama a terrorist on the loons would cheer him on.

They are not so much concerned about right and wrong as who is making the call.  They are nuanced that way.

 

23

Repetitive. 

True, that. However, if the multicommunist brainwashing could just be raped and beaten out of them?

24

They are not so much concerned about right and wrong as who is making the call.  They are nuanced that way.

Yep. Remember: Those are their jets now.

25 Unlike the leftists, we don't think the ends justify the means all the time.  And I think the joke has become a little unseemly.  Rape is not funny.  Except when you call it "surprise sex."  Or when it happens in "Preacher." 

26

...hot Muslim love and beatings, but mostly beatings.

27

Unlike the leftists, we don't think the ends justify the means all the time.  And I think the joke has become a little unseemly.  Rape is not funny. 

Who said anything about funny? I meant it in a karmic justice sort of way. I can't help it if the good jokesters here pile on.

28

Umm ... you guys ... we're supposed to ignore when women are raped if the rapist has a good record on women's issues, specifically abortion rights. Do we know if the Taliban is pro-choice? If so then we must look at the transgression of "rape" as though it were jay walking and support them since they are doing so much for women!

Have you all forgotten?

29 The Caliphate, apparently, is not enough for them.

Nor is the promise of the 72 virgins, either, I guess.

Sounds like a weakness in their faith, when they try and score some pre-martyrdom virginity, you know... just in case their whole religion is bullshit.

30 Hey, why shouldn't the brave Talibunnies have 10 year old brides of their own?  After all, Big Mo himself had a hot sexy nine year old to satisfy his urges.  I mean, he's the perfect Muslim role model, right?  Can't go around imposing our cultural values on others after all (Goddamn stupid lefty douchebags, who dominate our schools and culture with this crap).

31

Nominated for Strawman Argument of the Year for 2009.  It's early, but this one's going to be hard to beat.

"Killing terrorists only makes more of them!"

"You can't win a war in the Graveyard of Empires!"

"Al Qaeda is stronger than ever thanks to the Chimperor's illegal war of aggression!"

Nope.  Never heard those before.  They're all super-fresh.

32 I'm sorry, but I thought the Talibanies liked little boys.  Are you sure they said girls when they said they wanted to rape somebody?  There sure is going to be a lot of relief among the goat population in the Taliban controlled areas. 

33 It's their fucking culture, man

Both literally and figuratively.

34

Apperantly the virgin goats aren't enough for them anymore.

And do not call this rape -- they are helping these young girls open up to their true sexual nature, just ask Kinsey!  Pedophilia and rape are sooo right wing conservative ideals -- jeez!

 

*OT, but that sidebar article with the samurai is waaay cool.  I may have to try that (without the traditional garb, 'cause I'm not a samurai, or Japanese).

 

 

35 It's only rape if privileged white Duke lacross players (don't) do it. 

36
Read it and weep, wingnuts. the truth is that the Taliban are better than you:

United Nations Global Environmental Council Applauds Taliban for Going Green

ISLAMASBAD (AP) -- The UN's environmental council praised the Taliban for their efforts to save the environment. "The citizens of the world, appreciate all efforts to save the planet," said a UN official. The Taliban has initiated a recycling program in all of its strongholds, caves, and bomb-making facilities. They also recently purchased three new Honda hybrid vehicles. "We like to think of ourselves as environmentally aware," said Masood El Masry, a spokesman for the Taliban. "It's not enough to rid the world of Jews, we need to save the Earth from all filth and contaminants." The UN plans to award the Taliban later this year for its work in conservation and environmental protection.

37

Nominated for Strawman Argument of the Year for 2009.  It's early, but this one's going to be hard to beat.

You tell 'em dude.

38

This is what liberals, fond of painting the enemy as Supermen who cannot be defeated (as propagandists painted the Germans and Japanese in WWII), never seem to get. Does war exact a brutal, bloody price on America? It sure does. But they never contemplate that it also exacts a toll on the enemy.

A millitary history expert on the History Channel said that the U.S. didn't lose a single battle in Vietnam.  We lost the war because of Walter Cronkite, Jane Fonda and their ilk. 

They used the same tactics that the moonbats are using today: constant US body counts, painting our soldiers as looters, murderers and rapists, condemning strategies that are highly effective (the Surge (Iraq), Linebacker I&II (VN)), the non-stop warcrimes accusations...

These people are not being dishonest when they make these claims because they really do believe what they are saying is true; this makes them certifiably crazy, certifiably stupid or just good old fashioned crazy-stupid.

39

Hedley Lamar:  Qualifications?

Applicant:  "Rape, murder, arson, and rape."

Hedley Lamar: "You said 'rape' twice."

Applicant:  "I like rape."

40

Sounds like a weakness in their faith, when they try and score some pre-martyrdom virginity, you know... just in case their whole religion is bullshit.

It's not even a religion.  It is Mohammed's memoirs and battle tactics written in a book.  Everything in there is about how to divy up the spoils of war, how to oppress your enemies, and how to get your men to do things only an insane person would do.

41 Dammit connertown, you beat me to the Hedley Lamar joke.

You suck.

42 One would think the left would be greatly offended by this horribly heteronormative tradition of enslaving tribal girls into servitude and prostitution at the point of a gun, backed by the power of religion.

43

Somewhere, David Petraeus is giggling at the Taliban and mailing in his change of address papers to Nevada for 2010.

Now THAT would be fun.

44

 Insurmountably Brutal Afghan Winter: you took a wrong turn at Albuquerque and ended up in New England again. Get a friggin' GPS or something, will you?

45 One would think the left would be greatly offended.....

One thing at a a time.  Right now, The USA is the greatest evil on the planet and anyone who is against us is okay by them.

46

<i>...hot Muslim love and beatings, but mostly beatings.</i>

And if she complains, bury her up to her neck in the dirt and throw rocks at her head.

At some point, reasonable people will have to put a permanent end to Islam --even if it's their "culture." Mankind can do very well without that kind of crap IMHO.

47 wiserbud,
but but but...oh nevermind, you are right.

Somehow we must be responsible for what the Taliban are doing, give me time.

48 If one actually studies Islamic warfare, taking "concubines" is part of their history. I find it telling that the Taliban, who are obviously Islamic, are now essentially taking "concubines" from the Pashtun tribes, who are also obviously Islami. They might be dressing it up as requesting "wives" but really, unwilling wives are pretty much concubines. So why are the Taliban fighting their Muslim brothers?

49

At some point, reasonable people will have to put a permanent end to Islam --even if it's their "culture." Mankind can do very well without that kind of crap IMHO.

I have often thought it was time for "Operation Last Crusade", and I don't mean Indiana Jones either.

50

We lost the war because of Walter Cronkite, Jane Fonda and their ilk. 

 

We didn’t lose the battles or the war. The Democraps in congress lost South Vietnam when they abrogated several treaties and cut off military funding of the South Vietnamese. They were holding their own against the North until that happened.

51 After all, according to their count, they killed 5000+ Western fighters last year.

Yes, that is what those nice dhimmis from infidel medical journal The Lancet told us.

52 Nominated for Strawman Argument of the Year for 2009.  It's early, but this one's going to be hard to beat.

You tell 'em brother.

53 So why are the Taliban fighting their Muslim brothers?

Because it's all Islam knows how to do. 

Hundreds of years of murder, rape and general barbarism are what these fucking savages have accomplished.  All because 'Allah' said it was a good idea.  Any 'religion' that invokes "Infidel" is a danger to humanity and must be stomped out, completely.  Fuck that book, the Koran or however you spell it.  Fuck Islam.  Fuck it in the ass with the barbed cock of Satan.  Religion of peace indeed.  You take a look a the world and there is no other group of people so stuck in the 11th century.  Fat, stinky, camel turd eating, ball sack hair for beards having MURDERERS is what those fuckers are.

Fuck em all.

54

I guess they must have gotten tired of cornholing each other in the foxhole every night "for warmth" and decided to abduct some young girls for a little variation.  This actually works very well for the Taliban leadership because the guys get really violent when they realize they prefer cornholing Achmed than raping Fatima.  Nothing like a culturally taboo sexual identity crisis to provoke a homicidal rage and suicidal willingness to attack the crusaders.  It's either get killed attacking a US base with an AK-47 or drop a wall on themselves.       

55 The best cure for radical Islam is radical Islam, as Hotair says.

56 So why are the Taliban fighting their Muslim brothers?

Because Islam is a war of all against all. It's me against my brother, my brother and I against our father, my family against your family, our tribe against your tribe, us against the infidels, and when there are no more infidels to fight, we will fight each other.

Christianity elevates lives and cultures. Islam just confirms and reinforces deep-seated cultural prejudices.

57

Now Demanding Tribes Hand Over Young Women to Be Their "Fighters'" Wives/Rape-Slaves

Who do they think they are? Dennis Prager?

58 I ask you; what's a little genital mutilation and friendly rape amongst the family and friends of Allah?

59

"I would suggest forwarding this story over to Pandagon and Feministing for the usual predictable reactions"

Let me explain modern feminism to you:  Why, yes, it's really very bad that men with penises from another culture rape women and girls from that culture.  However, it's worse for we Westernerers to impose our cultural values upon their cultural values.  Systematic rape, stoning, clitoridectomies, child marriage--we don't do that here, so we consider it bad.  But we impose boob jobs, the bikini, and leg shaving of women here, and that's also bad!

Plus, anything that could be fixed by a bunch of Marines killing the rapists is really, really bad because the Marines are like a bunch of really big patriarchal penises.  And that's bad.

60 42 One would think the left would be greatly offended by this horribly heteronormative tradition of enslaving tribal girls into servitude and prostitution at the point of a gun, backed by the power of religion.

Posted by: Uniball at January 06, 2009 12:13 PM (27iEn)

Hey, give the Progressive Left a break.   They're all tired from the annual effort to save the West from Christmas. 

61 Well if you read the story,  you can see what the Taliban is doing is they are trying to discern if they still have the ability to intimidate many of the local tribal leaders. 

The alternative to coercing the tribes into handing the girls over 'legally' is for the Taliban to abduct them and force intercourse on them without permission. 

If that happens the tribes will fight the Taliban. 

To.the.death. 

That's how seriously your basic Afghan tribesman takes his family/tribal honor. 

The Taliban has got to know they are on thin ground here.  The fact they are then making this request anyway is a sign of desperation. 

They are going to get turned down, rapes will occur and then the Taliban is going to have implacable enemies after their ass who know those mountains even better than they do. 

62

We all know that the peaceful men of the Taliban are strong and staunch supporters of wymynn's rights and freedoms.  The Quaran says so.

It's the evil, violence ridden acquisition oriented patriarchal 'culture' of  the United States, and its decadent class oppression society have infected this pristine world and forced these noble warriors of Islam to take up arms in defense of their way of life against the overwhelming imperialist hegemony that is America.

Hopefully OUR president will set things to rights shortly.

63 Well, technically its against the Koran for men to bugger other men, so the continuous activity of that among Talibani is a moral problem. With a few women to pass around - willing or not is irrelevant tot the Koran - that would at least be somewhat reduced.

64

What did you morons think was going to happen once we started feeding those fuckers boner pills, huh?

Damn that George Bush and Big Pharma!

65
They are going to get turned down, rapes will occur and then the Taliban is going to have implacable enemies after their ass who know those mountains even better than they do.

In other words...it's all good.

66

Sounds like the Taliban are trying to cement relationships with the tribes via family ties.  A good theory perhaps, but it also seems like they are going about it in a way that will make them a lot of new enemies with very long memories.

67 1. Maybe not all liberals believe that, but this is a humor blog...

2. I think you can unify the liberal theory as follows:

Our enemies were all peaceful farmers, flying kites to pass the lazy summer days....then due to some minor misunderstanding that could have been fixed by some diplomacy through the UN over a 20-30 year time span involving new carbon taxes, increased foreign aid, etc., the evil-stupid-misguided Republicans made our poor-stupid-misguided racist southern armed forces attack the kite flying farmers.

This angered the kite-flying farmers, especially because our troops can only bomb villages, schools, and wedding parties. Then the noble-working class kite-flying farmers took up arms against us, and we are bound to lose because we don't understand anything, killing them only makes them madder, etc. etc.

There, I have unified the entire theory into one meme.

68 Yes, the Taliban is trying to cement ties to the tribes. However, the tribes may not think they are the best people to cement ties with, especially if the tribal leaders are all rich dudes who want their daughters to marry rich dudes from other clans instead of dirt poor Talibs.

69 ushie @ 59:

Cool. From now on, I'm going to refer to myself as a "really big patriarchal penis."

Semper Fi.

70 Wait... My ex has been referring to me as a big prick for some time. Is that the same thing?

71 Taliban leader to prospect "Name your crimes":

prospect: 'rape, murder, rape'.

Taliban leader: "You said rape twice."

Prospect: 'I like rape!'

72 I see someone has been taking a Dale Carnegie correspondence course.

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