Worst Election Ever: State Board to Certify Franken Victory Tomorrow
Stuart Smalley goes to Washington:
A state election board on Monday will announce Democrat Al Franken as the winner of the Minnesota Senate race, defeating Republican incumbant Norm Coleman, state officials told CNN Sunday. Secretary of State Mark Ritchie told CNN the canvassing board on Monday will confirm that Franken won the race by a 225-vote margin.It might go to the courts. Though I'd imagine Coleman realizes Republicans don't win election fights, and might just bow out. Either way, it's over. We officially got our asses kicked. That's 59 votes, assuming they keep Liebs with them on filibusters. Probably more, consistently, when you factor in the Maine Sisters and Spector and McCain.
Comments
Posted by: Dang at January 04, 2009 11:31 PM (Y5LIx)
Posted by: Stitches at January 04, 2009 11:32 PM (KyqYb)
Posted by: blogRot at January 04, 2009 11:34 PM (xzF31)
Posted by: In Exile at January 04, 2009 11:34 PM (Dw6L6)
Posted by: shoey at January 04, 2009 11:35 PM (RxUMK)
Not just Fuck. Clusterfuck.
Posted by: In Exile at January 04, 2009 11:35 PM (Dw6L6)
Posted by: Stitches at January 04, 2009 11:36 PM (KyqYb)
Posted by: MAJHAM at January 04, 2009 11:36 PM (Yt4WH)
Posted by: katya at January 04, 2009 11:36 PM (oRJZj)
Posted by: Unclefacts at January 04, 2009 11:36 PM (M+Vfm)
Posted by: The Obvious at January 04, 2009 11:37 PM (1g+FW)
Posted by: izoneguy at January 04, 2009 11:38 PM (3k9TU)
damn scandi's, i'm beginning to see where Ace is coming from on this.
Posted by: shoey at January 04, 2009 11:40 PM (RxUMK)
Posted by: Harry Reid at January 04, 2009 11:40 PM (EW49d)
Behold the modern Democratic Party.
Posted by: Evil Murderous Republican Fascist at January 04, 2009 11:41 PM (JyfVU)
Posted by: shoey at January 04, 2009 11:41 PM (RxUMK)
Shit, I was just trying to get a little PR, you know give my dying 'comedy' career a little jump start.
I told my agent this was a bad idea but he said, 'Al, there's no chance you'll win. We'll get another book deal out of this and maybe an internet radio show'. That's all I wanted, to recoup a little of the charity Air America money I lost out on.
Now I actually have to go and be a Senator? From Minnesota? Sure I grew up here but I haven't live her in like 30 years. What the fuck do I know about Minnesota?
God, how stupid are these hicks?
Posted by: Al Franken at January 04, 2009 11:42 PM (hlYel)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 04, 2009 11:43 PM (MOdlB)
Posted by: shoey at January 04, 2009 11:44 PM (RxUMK)
Posted by: Harry Reid at January 04, 2009 11:44 PM (EW49d)
Posted by: shoey at January 04, 2009 11:45 PM (RxUMK)
This will be the dumbest Senate in the history of the US. Well done Minnesota. The entertainment factor for the next 4-6 years will very high. Watching these bumbling retards attempt to govern should provide many popcorn moments.
Posted by: Gen. Sherman at January 04, 2009 11:45 PM (blNMI)
Posted by: counter at January 04, 2009 11:45 PM (0xhgx)
This sucks. Not as much as watching Murtha get re-elected, but it suck donky balls none-the-less.
Posted by: Ed at January 04, 2009 11:47 PM (VFkb6)
22 Gen. Sherman
Unfortunately much like the skits on SNL they are only funny at the beginning and they always drag them out too long.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 04, 2009 11:48 PM (MOdlB)
I always let him win.
Posted by: Brian at January 04, 2009 11:48 PM (YrCzB)
Posted by: tsj017 at January 04, 2009 11:48 PM (TV9JE)
Posted by: counter at January 04, 2009 11:49 PM (0xhgx)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 04, 2009 11:49 PM (XUV9W)
BTW, if you think this was ugly just wait for Specter vs Matthews.
Posted by: Rocks at January 04, 2009 11:50 PM (7rbe9)
Posted by: counter at January 04, 2009 11:51 PM (0xhgx)
America, behold your Senate!
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 04, 2009 11:52 PM (XUV9W)
Posted by: counter at January 04, 2009 11:53 PM (0xhgx)
Posted by: ThomasM. at January 04, 2009 11:54 PM (n8eQM)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 04, 2009 11:54 PM (fnoZ9)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 04, 2009 11:55 PM (MOdlB)
Posted by: t.ferg at January 04, 2009 11:56 PM (c/8+r)
Posted by: LC at January 04, 2009 11:57 PM (K37tB)
Sigh.
But, now Limbaugh can mention Franken by name and attack him since he is a public official. He ignored Smalley when he was writing books about him, so as to not give him free publicity. And O'Reilly learned not to do so only after that failed lawsuit in 2004 catapaulted Franken to hero status in the moonbat world.
Posted by: eddiebear at January 04, 2009 11:57 PM (CuYrt)
Don't you mean, herring-pickler? Bolshie fish canner? Combustible?
Seriously, where's Jeff B? I'm pretty sure I'm way over the line here.
Posted by: counter at January 04, 2009 11:58 PM (0xhgx)
Posted by: Al at January 04, 2009 11:58 PM (CyBUS)
Posted by: Brian at January 04, 2009 11:59 PM (YrCzB)
39 eddiebear
Probably didn't hurt in the recount that we have a Secretary of state approved and installed by Acorn and Moveon.org. Fucking rigged but the three way race screwed us just like it did for the US when Clinton got in.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 05, 2009 12:03 AM (MOdlB)
He will bend over like a bitch in heat just for the ratings. Franken will be on the factor within 3 months of taking office, guaranteed.
Posted by: Rocks at January 05, 2009 12:04 AM (7rbe9)
It'll be funny to see the race to sell out Republicans and how little they will get for it.
So many sellers and Reid only will need one. He'll get them for ten cents on the dollar.
Posted by: DrewM. at January 05, 2009 12:04 AM (hlYel)
i got the decade wrong
Posted by: Al Franken at January 05, 2009 12:05 AM (RxUMK)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 04, 2009 11:55 PM (MOdlB)
Hey, don't get us wrong. We have nothing against your half scandi children. Some of my best friends are scandis.
I just wouldn't want them sitting next to my wife at the lunch counter.
Posted by: Ed at January 05, 2009 12:06 AM (VFkb6)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 05, 2009 12:06 AM (MOdlB)
Posted by: Al Franken at January 05, 2009 12:07 AM (RxUMK)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 05, 2009 12:08 AM (n2eCn)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 05, 2009 12:10 AM (fnoZ9)
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 12:11 AM (RxUMK)
Rotten muther f'ers all. The O'bambi wins an election with obviously illegal funds ... Fuck, even his aunt living in free government housing donated more than the legal maximum, and there were zillions of dollars donated on credit cards that may or may not have the same address as the billing address ... most likely from non US destinations.
What the FUCK. we all just allow them to cheat and steal. They claim that all of their rights have been taken away by the EVIL W BOOOSH. How about my rights to live in a country with legitimate elections.
I'm ready to start hosting the training camps. I don't know much about how to run a war, but I'm just about ready to overthrow this government so we can start over.
But thankfully, Sarah will be there in 4 years to lead us out of this hell hole and back to the land of smaller government and low taxes. If this is not our hope, then see the previous paragraph.
Posted by: Mephitis at January 05, 2009 12:11 AM (17pTk)
Posted by: Dr Phil at January 05, 2009 12:12 AM (B5k/5)
The other half is Irish.
Yeah, so I'm fucked.
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 12:12 AM (0xhgx)
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 12:13 AM (RxUMK)
Posted by: Unclefacts at January 05, 2009 12:14 AM (M+Vfm)
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 12:15 AM (RxUMK)
Posted by: thebronze at January 05, 2009 12:16 AM (cwNXc)
Posted by: Lee at January 05, 2009 12:18 AM (Xb3DR)
But here's the bitch: Without us, the parasite dies. They have no creativity, no productive originality, and certainly no work ethic. They need us to live off of through their redistributive program. If we deprive them of our gifts, they have nothing to give our lazy-assed neighbors, and when that happens, the parasite's survival is in jeopardy.
We need to cause this to happen now, not when the parasite can compel us to work through much more vigorous means (aka work camps). We need to starve the beast, let the Federal Government languish without funds to redistribute and cause our neighbors to throw them out when the presents stop showing up. It's time.
Posted by: HatlessHessian at January 05, 2009 12:19 AM (3/V8w)
You know, it's almost like he doesn't read all these other threads.
Nah, can't be that.
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 12:19 AM (0xhgx)
Posted by: Hal at January 05, 2009 12:23 AM (tCm8g)
There must be some sort of trigger that causes them to appear.
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 12:24 AM (0xhgx)
My kids are really fucked they are half scandi and then I put in Irish, Scot, Welsh, English and German.
I pride myself on being American and try to beat that into them as it was into me.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 05, 2009 12:25 AM (MOdlB)
Posted by: AZDreamer at January 05, 2009 12:27 AM (VMUpX)
Posted by: genghis at January 05, 2009 12:28 AM (1XErj)
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 12:30 AM (+FzLa)
You know what the sad thing is? This does not surprise me in the least.This year was not the year for the Republicans. Too many light footed "R"s ran and this Republican party is fucking horrible about getting the message out to the masses.
Sometimes, I wonder if the democratic leadership has some serious shit on the Republican leadership and that is why the Republicans bend over and take the ass fucking. I can't think of any other reason.
Posted by: Ginger at January 05, 2009 12:30 AM (wXwtP)
And, from the other side, I'm just big, too big to fit into cars or walk through the doorways of old houses. And dumb.
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 12:32 AM (0xhgx)
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 12:32 AM (0xhgx)
According to Article 5, "The Congress, ..., on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments"
It would require the request to Congress from the Legislatures from 34 of the 50 States to Congress. Once that Convention has been called, however, it is under no obligation to limit itself to the subject matter(s) that caused the Convention to be called together in the first place. They could rewrite the Constitution from "We The People" to Amendment XXVII, and it would be legal as church on Sunday.
Posted by: Drumwaster at January 05, 2009 12:33 AM (Ymor3)
Posted by: Stitches at January 05, 2009 12:33 AM (KyqYb)
Posted by: In Exile at January 05, 2009 12:34 AM (Dw6L6)
I will laugh and laugh as every last one of you is bent over the log and told to squeal like a pig!
SUCK IT.
Posted by: Drew at January 05, 2009 12:34 AM (caTFx)
The problem is the people who run this party are so out of touch with the rest of us that they don't realize they need to hand over the reigns to the grassroots progressive Republicans or we're going to lose everything...
Posted by: Pete McCaskey at January 05, 2009 12:35 AM (vfPmp)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 12:35 AM (JLK25)
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 12:36 AM (0xhgx)
Posted by: Stitches at January 05, 2009 12:37 AM (KyqYb)
I got my anger from the Scot, the love of drink from the Irish, the love of bland food from the English and my narcissism from the Germans.
Oh the benefit of being a mutt all my bad traits don't need to be fixed they can just be excused.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 05, 2009 12:41 AM (MOdlB)
Posted by: HatlessHessian at January 05, 2009 12:43 AM (3/V8w)
[Cough] FBI files. Clinton. [/Cough]
Not that this would necessarily apply to our current guys, but it's long been a suspicion of mine in my more paranoid moments that that's why Gingrich folded.
Posted by: AD at January 05, 2009 12:43 AM (8BgQw)
We need to cause this to happen now,
Posted by: HatlessHessian at January 05, 2009 12:19 AM (3/V8w)
Ok - how?
Posted by: erik at January 05, 2009 12:44 AM (g9Yaz)
Posted by: FloofyParisParamus at January 05, 2009 12:44 AM (hr1Fa)
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 12:47 AM (0xhgx)
I will laugh and laugh as every last one of you is bent over the log and told to squeal like a pig!
SUCK IT.
Posted by: Drew at January 05, 2009 12:34 AM (caTFx)
Look, I only slept with your girlfriend once, alright. I didn't know she was in a relationship much less a serious one. I realize it must hurt, but it's not my fault. Get over it.
Posted by: AD at January 05, 2009 12:49 AM (8BgQw)
Posted by: AD at January 05, 2009 12:51 AM (8BgQw)
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 12:51 AM (RxUMK)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 12:53 AM (JLK25)
86 AD Women can only be stolen from an owner. Stand up man and recognize that you are a better man and fuck the apology.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 05, 2009 12:54 AM (MOdlB)
And 52% of us are just fine with it. Or oblivious. Whatever. Either way, the country is fucked.
Posted by: lmg at January 05, 2009 12:54 AM (A/vgC)
- buy from your friends who you know share your values. while I work in a large city, i live in a small town and I know who's a leftard and who's a conservative businessman. Already enough of us are boycotting our local leftard that he's feeling the pressure. Let him pray Obama will save him because we won't. It's time to choose sides and let the wrong side experience retributive justice.
- pay off the credit cards and have zero debt as soon as you can. stop falling prey to debt since it gives others leverage over you.
- understand the dollar is worthless if Obama borrows additional trillions. Shift your investments to less correlated foreign ETFs and gold.
- have employees? fire some and go as lean as you can. fire the most progressive/liberal ones (they're easy to find: they're the ones most likely to slack off or steal from you) and tell them it's ok, you're just giving them CHANGE. seriously though, it's time to get lean and you don't need liberal dead weight.
- buy things Obama won't like, like that Ruger or Glock you've always wanted. We need to keep those industries around, and we certainly need to stock up before they're verboten.
In otherwords, make yourself lean, debt-free as soon as possible, and focus every damn dollar on either supporting people who share your value structure, or placing it beyond the parasites hands. We have to starve this beast now, and the only way I'm aware of is by keeping the product of our labor and creativity out of their hands.
Comments/suggestions from others?
Posted by: HatlessHessian at January 05, 2009 12:56 AM (3/V8w)
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 12:57 AM (RxUMK)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 12:59 AM (JLK25)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 12:53 AM (JLK25)
Look, Brett, if Kelly says it's "imagining," I'll say it's "imagining." I don't like to be a homewrecker and, for that matter, she's a very sweet girl. You should really spend more time with her.
Posted by: AD at January 05, 2009 12:59 AM (8BgQw)
By "producing" you mean "inbreeding," right?
Go ahead, you all try and live in your insular little worlds where each of you dimwitted pansies can pretend he's king. It's that short-sighted, small minded view that helped GWB and his cronies drive this country to the brink of disaster. Of course, you have your blinders on so tight that you can't see your dependence on those who develop the things which you profess to "produce."
You're not the "producers," you're the consumers.
Posted by: Drew at January 05, 2009 12:59 AM (caTFx)
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 01:00 AM (RxUMK)
Posted by: Ginger at January 05, 2009 01:01 AM (wXwtP)
86 AD Women can only be stolen from an owner. Stand up man and recognize that you are a better man and fuck the apology.
Ha ha "Buzzsaw." Stolen from an owner? You're little piggy #1. If you're real nice maybe you'll get a little spit for lube.
Posted by: Drew at January 05, 2009 01:02 AM (caTFx)
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 01:02 AM (0xhgx)
We need to show that we are DYNAMIC, exciting, and interesting - that we have REAL mavericks (just calling an old white rich dude a maverick doesn't make him one - that was a HUGE and cynical mistake that, again, old white leadership made). We need more women, we need to reach out to the enormous conservative gay movement, we need to embrace intelligentsia more - all the conservative college students who are not "young republican" squares and all the faculty members who are afraid to show their political leanings because they'll not be taken seriously by their colleagues. We need to give them a party that they can feel proud of being part of, and something that makes them look good - not like a joke.
Posted by: Pete McCaskey at January 05, 2009 01:02 AM (vfPmp)
I'm down with the arming yourself to the teeth part. When the libtards start going hungry and realize The One won't sending a check every month, they'll try and rummage through your closet's and cubbard's.
If you smoke em' on the porch, make sure you drag em' through the door afterwards, that is if you don't live in Texas.
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 01:02 AM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 01:03 AM (JLK25)
Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at January 05, 2009 01:04 AM (PBGAP)
None of you are actually buying that this guy's a Republican, right?
Posted by: Moby alert at January 05, 2009 01:05 AM (8BgQw)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 01:05 AM (JLK25)
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 01:06 AM (0xhgx)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 01:03 AM (JLK25)
Really, does Kelly know? Hah, you rascal!
Posted by: AD at January 05, 2009 01:06 AM (8BgQw)
92 HatlessHessian
When one can get off the grid/conserve. Not for some leftard saving the planet reason but for taking from the companies that benefit most from govt control. The bigger the business the more they like govt.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 05, 2009 01:06 AM (MOdlB)
Posted by: Pete McCaskey at January 05, 2009 01:07 AM (vfPmp)
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 01:07 AM (0xhgx)
#105
at first i wasn't sure, but that last post convinces me he is either a George F. Will sockpuppet, or Andrew Sullivan himself
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 01:08 AM (RxUMK)
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 01:08 AM (0xhgx)
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 01:09 AM (+FzLa)
Posted by: AD at January 05, 2009 01:09 AM (8BgQw)
M2: M1 + savings deposits, time deposits less than $100,000 and money market deposit accounts for individuals. M2 represents money and "close substitutes" for money. [9] M2 is a key economic indicator used to forecast inflation.
Helicopter Ben has no clue where he's at now as he's in hard-core outlier territory. Keep your checking and savings accounts as low as possible, and keep scraping off excesses and shifting them to gold or foreign ETFs (being mindful to avoid economies that will also tank with the US). By doing so, the Fed has nowhere to run and our capacity to float additional trillions in debt obligations will fail. This economy has to reconcile, yet GWBush took the contagin from Fannie & Freddie (with a little help from OPEC friends) and placed the beast in the Treasuries, and Obama seeks to magnify that risk by piling on $3+ trillion of new obligations ($1 trillion in stimulus, $1 trillion in state budget demands, and a minimum of $1 trillion in governmental employee pension obligations, and this ignores a bankrupt social security and Medicare).
As a risk manager, I advocate taking one's lumps as early and often as possible. It's when you avoid them and are forced to take all at once, with interest and penalties, that you can't survive the pain. If the United States is to have any chance at survival, we need to call an end to this ponzi scheme and take our lumps now. It's time to let the brazen progressivists experience the full impact of an economy that only values those that produce, and gives those incapable of such contribution the full impact of their ideology: isolation, desolation, starvation and eradication.
Posted by: HatlessHessian at January 05, 2009 01:09 AM (3/V8w)
Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at January 05, 2009 01:11 AM (PBGAP)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 01:11 AM (JLK25)
But, let's pretend you're super smart and successful. What's you line?
I've never claimed to be super smart or successful. The thing is, it's relative. Compared to the seperatist-addled freedom haters on here I only appear super smart and successful.
In the real world I am a south Minneapolis raised, union member, father of 4 who is not willing to fuck my neighbors over just because, if I don't, they may benefit from being a member of my community and society.
Face it you all: as middle class worker types you are more dependent on the social services and Government programs than the elitist right wingers that you all for some reason keep protecting. Do you not see that it is your wealth that is constantly being redistributed to them? When you pull a double or pick up OT to make some extra coin- that money does not end up in MY pocket. Check Bill O'Reilly's wallet. Or Limbaugh's overseas account. That's where the precious nickles and dimes from your "producing" are sitting.
Posted by: Drew at January 05, 2009 01:11 AM (caTFx)
I had parents who were of the labor movement, but realized early on that the short-sightedness and selfishness of the left was leaving most hard-working Americans - those of us who actually succeeded instead of just blaming those who were successful - out in the cold.
I think I fit every bit of the definition of a Conservative, and am proud to be a Republican and will never apologize to it. I have a lot of problems with how the party has been run, and my eyes were really opened to this when I tried to marry a black woman in 1962 and was denied a license; we had to go to another state to get married. I realized then that we were missing a big opportunity by being too insular, and this suspicion has grown for more than 40 years. My wife is not especially interested in politics, unfortunately, although I've tried to get her interested. She does come to rallies and things like that, and our kids have been politically active - all within the GOP and related organizations - since they were in high school.
You don't need to impugn me to get your point across. You think I'm too left-leaning to be a member of this party, just because I criticise party leadership. Typical! This, again, is why we are screwed in a country that will be increasingly multicultural and multi-whatever else.
Posted by: Pete McCaskey at January 05, 2009 01:12 AM (vfPmp)
Ah, a peasant! How delightful!
Posted by: AD at January 05, 2009 01:14 AM (8BgQw)
Posted by: The Obvious at January 05, 2009 01:14 AM (1g+FW)
Um,did we hit a nerve with the lib nutters tonight? They are kind of entertaining.
Posted by: Ginger at January 05, 2009 01:15 AM (wXwtP)
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 01:16 AM (RxUMK)
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 01:17 AM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Pete McCaskey at January 05, 2009 01:12 AM (vfPmp)
I'm impugning you because I've never seen you on this blog before and so far your only posts are bashing Republicans with only the most cartoonish image of what conservatives are like. You show up in a thread where a bunch of liberal trolls show up and describe a group of conservatives that in no way fit the political make-up of this site. You're full of shit, dude.
Posted by: Moby alert at January 05, 2009 01:18 AM (8BgQw)
Yet, he never pulls the false consciousness routine with me. C'mon. If that was going to work, it would have worked decades ago, no?
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 01:19 AM (0xhgx)
Pete
you have not seen scorn heaped on the GOP leadership like you'll find here, read the archives my friend
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 01:19 AM (RxUMK)
Brett waits by the mailbox for his Hope check and his Change voucher.
Everyday.
Even in the rain.
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 01:20 AM (9jESx)
You know, cause it's weird. He's super conservative but he's only around when we're ripping on our own.
Yeah, weird. Let's not read anything into that. (Even though, after noticing it for a couple years, I'm going to go ahead and mention it now.)
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 01:21 AM (0xhgx)
I am NOT bashing Republicans - just those who run the kinds of cynical campaigns we've lost so many of recently. If you don't think they're worthy of bashing, then so be it. We have the better platform, the FAIRER platform, the platform that is far more in line with the bill of rights and what it truly means to be American. The Demorats pull the wool over the eyes of everyone by co-opting the msm and showing themselves as adaptable and creative, and we ignore all of this at our peril. that's all I'm saying. We need to grow, at least in how we present ourselves.
Posted by: Pete McCaskey at January 05, 2009 01:22 AM (vfPmp)
Um,did we hit a nerve with the lib nutters tonight? They are kind of entertaining.
Watch what we'll do for an encore: rebuild the system that educates that YOUR kids, reduce YOUR dependence on foreign oil, slow down the trashing of YOUR environment, cease the shooting of YOUR friends and relatives overseas, and maybe (if your lucky) we'll even give you a nice slap on the ass when we're done, because, face it, all the dudes on here are so busy diddling each other and playing with their guns that you probably haven't been satisfied in good long while.
And, by the way, you're welcome.
Posted by: Drew at January 05, 2009 01:22 AM (caTFx)
and no we don't hate gay ppl here, some of our most entertaining, thoughtful and intelligent posters are gay
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 01:22 AM (RxUMK)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 01:22 AM (JLK25)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 01:23 AM (JLK25)
119 Drew
The problem is when someone else controls your money or some other thing you need that normally would have to be paid for, they control you. There is no reason for the majority of any productive populace to ever to be in this position. Most here will remember that is the reason we left our parents house.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 05, 2009 01:24 AM (MOdlB)
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 01:25 AM (RxUMK)
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 01:16 AM (RxUMK)
Holy crap! Totally! I just sit on my arse all day, doing nothing and wait for someone to give me free money... just like... the citizens of ALASKA! Go Palin, redistribute that wealth, baby! And make sure everyone gets something for nothing. That way they won't value or appreciate it.
What are you a trust fund baby?
Posted by: Drew at January 05, 2009 01:26 AM (caTFx)
In many respects, the Gaza analog is appropriate here. The producers in our economy have better things to do than intervene in politics. They tolerate great antagonization and go to extreme ends to just live their normal lives. But when you cross that threshold, your bivariate model suddenly shifts: the host of the parasites now becomes the relentless hunter. Just as Israel finally tired of suffering the daily missiles and the weekly injuries and deaths, critical mass occurred and retributive justice has "come home to roost" on the parasitic Palestinians.
Your kind may not be treated well through this process of correction. You've harmed good and decent people for too long, and I'm afraid you may find no one who will speak in your defense. It may be that the sole purpose of your existence is to serve as a warning to others. Be mindful of the continued harm you cause as a useless parasite, and should you have the capacity to change, I suggest you entertain it now. Too many don't recognize the capacity for our current political and economic situation to radicalize, and subsequently think the old rules will continue to apply. Unfortunately that's just not the case anymore. Judgment, a concept foreign to most liberals, is just around the corner.
Posted by: HatlessHessian at January 05, 2009 01:27 AM (3/V8w)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 01:28 AM (JLK25)
Hah, you think I'd send my kids to public school! How quaint.
Posted by: AD at January 05, 2009 01:28 AM (8BgQw)
a might touchy there eh? Drew
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 01:28 AM (RxUMK)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 05, 2009 01:28 AM (MOdlB)
Are we the "other" or are you venting for some personal reason?
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 01:29 AM (0xhgx)
And YES of course the right doesn't hate the gays. But everyone else thinks we do, because of a few bigmouths, and because the gay-bashers are invariably Republican and our politicians can't shut them up before they proudly pronounce that to everyone.
Posted by: Pete McCaskey at January 05, 2009 01:29 AM (vfPmp)
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 01:30 AM (9jESx)
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 01:30 AM (RxUMK)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 01:31 AM (JLK25)
I mean, you guys have experts like Blago and Richardson, what use would a woman like that be to you?
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 01:31 AM (0xhgx)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 01:32 AM (JLK25)
Evidently the fine liberal folks of the great state of California didn't get that memo.
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 01:32 AM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 01:33 AM (JLK25)
The most important thing.
Why hasn't Jeff B. come to defend my octogypsy beard?
He's a bigot, that one.
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 01:33 AM (0xhgx)
So by your logic I am led to believe that your income in generated from a source of employment that is entirely independent, you own your own home outright, have no open lines of credit, are a trained medical practitioner who provides health care for his family, grows and processes his own food, and manufactures his own textiles?
Buzzsaw, your money is controlled as little and as much as mine. You are told what to spend your money on as much as the conservatives you think are out to get ya. WTF, you guys are led to believe that you need to stock up on arms and apocalyptic supplies. Spook stories aimed at prying a few green backs from your wallet. Working in a low paying job with no benefits so that a few entitled owners can benefit is hardly independence.
The funny thing that you all seem to miss is that no one is out to get you. Libs are not trying to create some utopian world and then exclude you from it. All are welcome.
Posted by: Drew at January 05, 2009 01:34 AM (caTFx)
Spare me, seriously, get lost dude.
Posted by: Moby alert at January 05, 2009 01:35 AM (8BgQw)
.....and if we distract you long enough, maybe it'll give the little boy a chance to escape.
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 01:35 AM (+FzLa)
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 01:36 AM (RxUMK)
Like what their preacher has been saying for 20 years?
Barry fucked up in interviews also.
At least Palin is honest, not like Barry. Ever look into how Barry got that nice house of his?
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 01:36 AM (9jESx)
@151 - if I lived in California I would have voted "YES on 8" too. Just because you think gays are human beings and not deserving of being killed is no reason to adjust the entire definition of marriage. I'm not going to use some childish slippery slope argument, because the "what's next, kids marrying trees" soundbites made the right look stupid. We're not stupid. The gays shouldn't be marrying when you have all the same rights with domestic partnerships. I think the "liberals" of California realized that. We don't have to be able to vote no on prop 8 simply to see them as a worthy tool inside of the GOP ... the fact is it's got to be about strategy and making our tent bigger, as McCain said several times. Unfortunately the people who advised him didn't have his common sense.
Posted by: Pete McCaskey at January 05, 2009 01:37 AM (vfPmp)
"Actually, and this is totally true, for the first six months after 9/11, I put three baseballs in my carry-on bag. I am blessed with an unusually accurate throwing arm and wanted more than anything to thwart a hijacking by beaning a terrorist. How American is that?! I imagined The New York Post headline: 'Franken Beans Hijacker: Terrorist Hit In Face With More Balls Than Elton John.'"
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 05, 2009 01:37 AM (MOdlB)
Posted by: Pete McCaskey at January 05, 2009 01:38 AM (vfPmp)
optimal phrase " utopian world"
impossible to achieve, and even if you did, you wouldn't want it, no challenge
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 01:39 AM (RxUMK)
Now, now eman, you should know better than to use logic when dealing libtard. Just play along for a little while and maybe the guy's with the net's will get here before he really does something stupid.
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 01:39 AM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 01:41 AM (JLK25)
Posted by: Bill Grant at January 05, 2009 01:42 AM (HnZIs)
Are we the "other" or are you venting for some personal reason?
I'm not really angry. In all honesty. But I can see how I come off that way. That's not really my intent, but, I don't really care if you think I'm angry. Why? I feel that I've right to be after what's been done to my country for the last 8 years.
As far as you being the "other" I suppose I think you are. I'm not happy about that, but everywhere I look Repubs are drawing a huge line in the sand, circling the wagons, refusing to be open to work with this upcoming system and see how it may be effective. I don't want you to be the other, but I don't know that I really have any other choice?
Not one repub I know has yet to agree to sit and talk about issues and bat around ideas of how we can all be happy and try to reach some sort of resolution. Not one.
How many of you on here have offered that open-mindedness? None that I've seen. Instead it's all, "Let's take our ball and go home. We'll be back in four years and we'll be fighting even dirtier than ever before! In the meantime, let's lay here passively blocking the road so that nothing can be accomplished. That way we win!"
Do you think this is a game?
Posted by: Drew at January 05, 2009 01:42 AM (caTFx)
Republicans win when they support and defend and champion Conservative ideas.
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 01:43 AM (9jESx)
I actually am my primary heath care provider but that wasn't my point. If the bills I should pay are paid by another that person has power over me.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 05, 2009 01:45 AM (MOdlB)
Pete McCaskey, glad to see your comments. Don't lurk anymore - this is a full contact sport on ace, but it's a meaningful one and the perspective you bring to the discussion is a valuable one. (I hate to say it but even the progressivist trolls here have their value in communicating their ever-limited, increasingly tired redistributionistic philosophy). John Milton wrote in his defense against the King of England's effort to ban printing presses that "truth and falsehood must be permitted to grapple so that truth may be found."
A parallel to that thought is that of critical theory. The world of policy debate embraced critical theory in the early 1990s, helping them address framework problems. Those are the kinds of problems that occur when you're stuck in a certain way of seeing things, and as long as you continue to see things that way, you can never overcome them. Critical theory uses something called radicalization that embraces extreme positions which are almost always untenable, but cause us to discover our current framework isn't true. It's like that moment in the Matrix where we're forced to reconcile with the fact that the reality we live within simply isn't true. Radicalization is a methodology where you shift to an extreme position - say you advocate a pure Objectivist model ala Ayn Rand and apply it to the current political situation. While we'd expect it to have a lot of problems, the process of radicalization expands our awareness and allows us to question assumptions in the status quo that we've built upon, but probably should have challenged before we did so. In that respect, it allows us to question areas of current society that may be wrong and have contributed to our existing problems.
I love Ace of Spades in the fact that the people who comment here don't hesitate for a moment to throw out their absolutist position. There's real passion and advocacy here, but through that transformative process, truth (as best as we can ever hope for) is pursued and a close approximate found.
Posted by: HatlessHessian at January 05, 2009 01:45 AM (3/V8w)
Posted by: Drew at January 05, 2009 01:34 AM (caTFx)
All are not welcome, you Jacobin scum!
If you get power, then who's going to do my yard work?
MY LAWN WILL BE MOWED, DAMNIT! and I'll be damned if I'm going to do manual labor.
Posted by: AD at January 05, 2009 01:46 AM (8BgQw)
Tell me how you think Barry would have handled things if he were President on 09-11-2001.
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 01:47 AM (9jESx)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 01:47 AM (JLK25)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 01:47 AM (JLK25)
impossible to achieve, and even if you did, you wouldn't want it, no challenge
Actually, the "optimal phrase" was: "Libs are not trying to create some utopian world"
Don't be lazy. Read the entire sentence and cite the entire quote. Puling from context just looks trivial and dastardly. I know this is reeaaallll difficult, but try something new: listen to what someone who has a different opinion from your own is actually saying.
Posted by: Drew at January 05, 2009 01:49 AM (caTFx)
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 01:49 AM (RxUMK)
I'm an atheist. Love science, got me into college and gave me a ride. I'm a fiction writer, that's how I eat now. I come from a liberal family.
But yeah, people here, they don't bug me. Not at all.
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 01:50 AM (0xhgx)
Spend some time on any conservative site without insulting people and just arguing liberal positions and see how long you last. Then spend some time at any liberal website doing the opposite.
Then get back to me on open-mindedness.
Posted by: Moby alert at January 05, 2009 01:50 AM (8BgQw)
Go ahead. Tell us.
Why are you calling me a retard? Are we related?
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 01:50 AM (9jESx)
Democrats are dumb and Al Franken is a doodoo head!
Oops, I should go. I just lit my face on fire and should call for help.
Does anyone have the number for 9-1-1?
Posted by: Twib Flensom at January 05, 2009 01:51 AM (qWcoW)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 01:52 AM (JLK25)
Ha! I believe you. And, not only that, you DESERVE to have a lawn. A big one! Bigger than you could ever need or use. Some people shouldn't even get one. Theirs should be reallocated to you because you DESERVE it. It's just too bad we fuckers outlawed slavery and pushed through civil rights or you could just go get yourself a slave to do the work for you.
Psst. I'll let you in on a little secret: I don't really want the power. But, after hearing what you self-serving haters would do with it, yeah, I'll take it. I'm not the most compassionate person in the world, but I know I'm less of an oppressor than you'd be.
Posted by: Drew at January 05, 2009 01:55 AM (caTFx)
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 01:55 AM (RxUMK)
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 01:56 AM (9jESx)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 01:56 AM (8BgQw)
Posted by: Pete McCaskey at January 05, 2009 01:57 AM (vfPmp)
Brett... let's use a first-person source here. This man, Barack Obama, says there are 57 states: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
So what's your explanation? Is this man a moron? Was his mind overtaken by aliens? Do we actually have 57 states but there's a grand conspiracy to deny that and subsequently we must all believe there are only 50? Since Obama says there are 57, we're well beyond the question of the fact. What's the interpretation pal?
(Apologies to those here with better things to do. I just love watching less capable minds flounder as they realize their ideology is nothing more than a crummy party commercial.)
Posted by: HatlessHessian at January 05, 2009 01:58 AM (3/V8w)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 01:58 AM (JLK25)
Our team allows opiates. We don't talk about it. But we do. Wink, wink, nod, nod.
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 01:58 AM (0xhgx)
"How many of you on here have offered that open-mindedness? None that I've seen. Instead it's all, "Let's take our ball and go home. We'll be back in four years and we'll be fighting even dirtier than ever before! In the meantime, let's lay here passively blocking the road so that nothing can be accomplished. That way we win!"
Do you think this is a game?"
and what have you been doing for the last 8 years?
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 01:58 AM (RxUMK)
It's the people that you are paying that have the power over you. The people that have the things you need. They have power over you.
Sorry, I'm unclear: you are your own primary health care provider? Are you saying you are your own doctor, or that you provide your own health care insurance?
Posted by: Drew at January 05, 2009 01:59 AM (caTFx)
You think Lincoln would want to associate with today's Republicans in any way? You must be high. Back in the dy the movers and shakers may have had an "R" by their name, but your party has moved so far away that you can't hardly claim credit for something which you have fought so hard since to diminish.
Posted by: Drew at January 05, 2009 02:01 AM (caTFx)
Brett, try to find the pattern.
States, preacher, mansion; there is a common thread there. The thread is not just about Barry.
Calling me names will not make you a smart person.
Think, Brett.
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 02:03 AM (9jESx)
For the last 8 years I have been taking it up the can just like everyone else. I've also been reading, donating, volunteering, and working to try and help create a system that will not be based on backlash for GWBs terms.
What have YOU been doing?
Posted by: Drew at January 05, 2009 02:03 AM (caTFx)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 02:04 AM (JLK25)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 02:05 AM (ChNUu)
This is one that really pisses me off. If we look at the political parties the Dems were against that whole getting rid of slavery thing. That Abraham guy was a Republican. Byrd only threw the KKK under the bus when it hurt his political career. Look at some history and see which party you should be in if real diversity is what you want.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 05, 2009 02:05 AM (MOdlB)
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 02:05 AM (0xhgx)
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 02:05 AM (9jESx)
Topless Tuesdays. That's all I'm saying.
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 02:06 AM (0xhgx)
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 02:07 AM (RxUMK)
That's what the minimum wage is for! Slavery is declassé - it shows you can't afford to pay your workers, like illegal immigrants; I mean - sure - you could do it, but if I'm going to pay below minimum wage, I might as well shop at Old Navy or, godforbid, Jos. A. Bank. My father, my grandfather, my great-grandfather, my great-great grandfather, and my great-great-great grandfather built up my trust fund for a reason, and that's so I wouldn't have to shop at Jos. A. Bank or do fucking yard work.
Posted by: AD at January 05, 2009 02:07 AM (8BgQw)
Our team allows opiates. We don't talk about it. But we do. Wink, wink, nod, nod.
You know what, funny thing is that I voted R for years. More or less straight across the ticket. Then I started seeing the religious and economical hypocrisy and lost my stomach for the elephant.
I don't hate republicans. I just can't stand closed-minded worker bees who seem to survive in their limited worlds by limiting the options of others. I also hate the fucks who profit from that arrangement.
As for the opiates, thanks for offering to share.
Posted by: Drew at January 05, 2009 02:08 AM (caTFx)
Why did you vote (I presume you did) for a man that referred to his Grandmother as a "typical white woman"?
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 02:09 AM (9jESx)
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 02:10 AM (RxUMK)
But yet most of the mudslinging and racial politiking was done on the left during the primaries. Dingy want's one two white women from Illinois in The Senate not Burris who would be it's only black member. Bobby Rush said that if Burris was neglected his seat by the Democrat Congress it would be tantamount to a "lynching" or a "hanging" .Their interviewing a rich white woman with little intelligence and no experience for the job in NY.
Have you been in a cryo-tube the last year or so.
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 02:10 AM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 02:11 AM (JLK25)
What else do you presume to know about me? Wait, let me guess! This is parlor trick that you use to win friends and influence people, right?
Or, am I mistaken and we have secretly been having conversations for the last 8 years that I didn't know about but somehow told you how much I hate Bush?
Let me put it this way: at no time in the last 8 years have I had a "He's not MY president!" sticker on my car. Let's see if you can make the same claim in 2012.
Posted by: Drew at January 05, 2009 02:12 AM (caTFx)
Ok I could not resist, but really, hell... It's time for us republicans to wake up and realize that we are getting beat because we are bringing knifes to gun fights, We lost the Minnesota seat because we let a guy recount votes until he won?? The oldest Dem trick in the book... ( Well besides counting the votes of the dead)
We need to be better than this, much better
Oh and sweet justice, the Vikings lost tonight
Posted by: Micheal at January 05, 2009 02:12 AM (RAvLX)
Posted by: shoey at January 05, 2009 02:14 AM (RxUMK)
The speech was made in response to the revelations about Rev. Wright?
It was less than a year ago, Dude.
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 02:14 AM (9jESx)
My neighbor pays no Federal nor state income taxes. As an autobody repair mechanic who makes less than $40K/year, he has a nice wall-mounted HDTV flat-screen, two snowmachines, two ATVs, three pickup trucks and numerous other toys. I cannot afford his toys because I elect to set aside money from my paycheck for college savings for my children, for my own healthcare, and for the retirement of my wife and myself.
My neighbor voted for Obama. Obama promised him "free healthcare, great retirement and affordable college" for his children. My neighbor has all the toys I don't have, yet has chosen not to save for these things he desires (healthcare, education, retirement). I'm saving for these things, yet I'm also told I must be punished via taxes, and worse yet, I must buy these things for my neighbor. Yet I still don't have the damn HDTV (mine is a lousy 25"), I don't have the ATV nor any of the other toys he has. Yet I am told I must give half of my paycheck to Barack Obama so that he may redistribute it to my neighbor who lives the life of excess, so that he too can attain the things I've paid for, as he was too busy buying toys.
So back to my original question: who is the slave in our economy?
Posted by: HatlessHessian at January 05, 2009 02:14 AM (3/V8w)
Nope. You shouldn't have to work. Instead, clearly you've earned the right to focus all your time on being an asshole. Looks like you're good at your "job."
Let me guess... there's no union for that, is there?
Posted by: Drew at January 05, 2009 02:15 AM (caTFx)
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 02:15 AM (9jESx)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 02:18 AM (JLK25)
But, yeah, when it comes to the arguing, nothing will change.
Honestly though, conservatives tend to be rather sappy do gooders themselves.
Joking aside. Yeah, perception errors, we all have them. What are the odds that conservatives are infected with the lot and liberals have none?
Not very likely right?
Join our team Drew. Tell you what. I have a buy five pizzas get one free punchcard. Does that change anything?
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 02:19 AM (0xhgx)
Notice the fucker won't respond to anything factual, he's just going with the same ol' tired left-tard talking point's and name calling.
The name calling is cool, but the leftard talking point's, not so much.
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 02:20 AM (+FzLa)
201 AD
I haven't made minimum wage since I was 16. Oddly enough I made myself worth more than that wage fairly quickly. Fuck off with the minimum wage crap that is for teenagers, lazy fuckers that don't show up regularly and illegal aliens.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 05, 2009 02:20 AM (MOdlB)
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 02:23 AM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 02:23 AM (JLK25)
I say let's start by eliminating the Federal Income Tax.
Then let's raise the voting age to 35.
Then let's return the selection of Senators back to the States as originally done.
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 02:24 AM (9jESx)
It was a foregone conclusion.
Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at January 05, 2009 02:24 AM (Z4gub)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 02:25 AM (JLK25)
Yep nothing say's love like running over your grandma with the Changey Hopey express and then backing over her.
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 02:26 AM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 02:27 AM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 02:30 AM (JLK25)
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 02:30 AM (9jESx)
And 2004.
Here's to an America that a majority of Americans can be proud of!
Posted by: benjamin at January 05, 2009 02:31 AM (+4ai1)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 02:31 AM (JLK25)
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 02:32 AM (9jESx)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 02:33 AM (ChNUu)
Drew, Brett, I would reccomend you pursue a basic course of economics, history, and logic before attempting debate. Furthermore, I would recommend you two attempt civility, and not descend into the realm of the ad hominem.
Let's try. I will now civilly argue a point, citing references and using a rational and logical progression of argumentation.
1. The Republican Party was formed to end the institution of slavery.
2. Following the Civil War, it was Republicans who passed the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments to the Constitution.
3. The Republican Party never stood in opposition to civil rights at any time in its entire history. To state otherwise is a blatant lie. In fact, Republicans in Congress supported the 1964 Civil Rights Act in much higher numbers then the Democrats.
4. The Democratic Party was the birthplace of the KKK. The KKK functioned as the armed wing of the Party, allowing them ironclad control of the Southern states during the period from around 1880-1960.
5. Woodrow Wilson was a fervent admirer of the KKK who resegregated the federal government following the Republican desegregation of the same.
6. Senator Robert Byrd is a former KKK member and third in line to the presidency. While I appreciate the irony of a former Klansman standing third in line behind a black man, it makes a somewhat comical scene.
From the end of Wilson's presidency you will find that no American president can be legitimately called anti-civil rights, for all contributed in some way to the eventual victory in that area. All except FDR. FDR amassed more executive power then any President before or since, yet his policies, specifically the National Recovery Act, were designed to help his base, not the black people of the United States. In fact, many black groups said that the NRA was short for Negro Run Around or Negroes Robbed Again. During his unprecedented stay in office, FDR made no moves to end segregation, because his own party would have blocked him.
In the post 60s era, the Democratic party has claimed the mantle of champion of the minorities, and especially of the black people of this country. However, the Johnsonian model of the welfare state is more then anything else responsible for the destruction of the black family and the high levels of poverty among black people today. Furthermore, the Democratic party platform still claims that non-whites are inferior. Now it is the condescending soft bigotry of low expectations rather then Bull Connor's firehose, but the results have been far more destructive. The black community, which remained stalwart through the antebellum period of Democratic slavery, then strong through the postbellum Democratic KKK period of opression, has finally been eroded by the handouts, corruption, and avarice of the modern Democratic Party.
For the record I don't think you can really argue that either party is racist at this point. The fact is however, that the Republican Party has been committed to equality since it's founding, while the Democratic Party has been painfully slow to even come as far as it has. One of my great hopes for Obama is that he can do something no other American President to date could have really done: finally end the last vestige of racial preference in out society.
Posted by: Britt at January 05, 2009 02:35 AM (ggOIi)
Also, do you want it to be true that a clown like Wright is a typical Black person?
Do you want Barry to think that he is a typical Black person?
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 02:36 AM (9jESx)
Accidentally calling Africa a country is a minor mistake. Saying you've been to all fifty-seven states. How the fuck do you accidentally say that?
Most first graders wouldn't even make that mistake.
And remember Palin was the VP nominee not the current PE like Obama is.
Tell me Drew, do you actually know anything about the man you have just elected?
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 02:40 AM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 02:41 AM (JLK25)
Posted by: Shannon at January 05, 2009 02:42 AM (v4qA1)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 02:43 AM (JLK25)
Drew, I think you're half on our team already. Let's say I offered you a buy one get one coupon for a pound of coffee. You'd trade that for Brett, wouldn't you? (Along with the opiates and topless Tuesdays.)
We're all friends here.
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 02:43 AM (0xhgx)
You know, like the way us leftists waited 2 whole days before waving our Bush=Hitler signs and screaming no blood for oil!
Posted by: seriously? sarah palin? priceless. at January 05, 2009 02:45 AM (5lNo1)
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 02:48 AM (9jESx)
If the self appointed scolds were here, we'd probably have 3 or 4 new votes tonight alone.
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 02:49 AM (0xhgx)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 02:49 AM (JLK25)
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 02:50 AM (9jESx)
I am not mocking you. I want you to answer my questions.
I want to know what you think and how you think.
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 02:52 AM (9jESx)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 02:54 AM (JLK25)
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 02:54 AM (9jESx)
Two new converts, ready for conversion.
I mean, it's just odd, that's what it is. Why won't our more intuitive friends come and turn all this lead into gold?
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 02:55 AM (0xhgx)
What HatlessHessian was trying to say, very eloquently so I'll bring it down to a level you can understand and a starkness that will please me, is that we will find a grim sense of justice in watching you die during the next Culling.
I on the other hand will be actively killing your kind.
Don't any of you fucking morons tell me it's a waste of ammo, either. .223 was made to fly through moonbat skull.
Posted by: Thesher at January 05, 2009 02:55 AM (oHSZr)
No certainly not. A man with an Ivy league education would certainly know how many states there are in the union.
Now that trailer trash snow-joo Palin with her illegitimate kid's and 2nd grade education, I would expect that out of, but certainly not The One.
By the way, what did him being (black), (half-black) have anything to do with him being head of The Harvard Law Review? Do you believe that should be an unattainable rung on the ladder for a person of color? I mean after all he's a hardworking and intelligent man is'n't he?
And I thought we were the ones consumed by race.
.
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 02:56 AM (+FzLa)
I think Barry made a silly mistake because he was exhausted and momentarily confused.
He knows and knew how many States are in the Union.
Posted by: eman at January 05, 2009 02:56 AM (9jESx)
No?
Let us rend cloth.
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 02:57 AM (0xhgx)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 03:00 AM (JLK25)
Wow, that's priceless. Hey your right, it worked pretty well for you guy's after the whole stolen election-not-my-president thing right after the 2000 election.
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 03:01 AM (+FzLa)
Yea, I would defininatly stock up on coat hangers and get my coffee at 7-11 for the next few week's, jus' sayin'.
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 03:06 AM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 03:08 AM (JLK25)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 03:10 AM (ChNUu)
Watch what we'll do for an encore: rebuild the system that educates that YOUR kids, reduce YOUR dependence on foreign oil, slow down the trashing of YOUR environment, cease the shooting of YOUR friends and relatives overseas, and maybe (if your lucky) we'll even give you a nice slap on the ass when we're done, because, face it, all the dudes on here are so busy diddling each other and playing with their guns that you probably haven't been satisfied in good long while.
LOL!!! Why don't the Democrats try concentrating on the responsibilitiies covered in the Constitution instead of intruding into areas that the Feds have no business sticking its nose into? Oh that's right; since when did the Democrats ever give a single *uck about the Constitution?
I'll just say that if I hear a Starbucks or a Planned Parenthood is shot up in the next few weeks, I won't be a bit surprised.
Not to worry, I doubt you're a good shot.
Posted by: Barbelle at January 05, 2009 03:11 AM (qF8q3)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 03:13 AM (JLK25)
You're right Brett, it is not a joke.
But it doesn't have to happen either. So watch where you step, see that you don't cross the Rubicon, and the next four years will be tense but relatively peaceful.
Posted by: Thesher at January 05, 2009 03:15 AM (oHSZr)
Actually, as one of the gay people who regularly comment here, I've never had a problem with any of it. Then again, I'm a successful conservative who pulls my own weight and doesn't try to use my sexual orientation as a substitute for intelligence and competence.
Barney Fag is referred to as such because that's all he is; he's a pathetic little faggot whose only usefulness is in his minority status and sexual orientation. His argument that he needed to run a prostitution ring out of his apartment and to abuse his Congressional powers to do it because that's what gay people do only proves that point.
Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at January 05, 2009 03:15 AM (WM9cd)
Posted by: SpideyTerry at January 05, 2009 03:16 AM (r/u9f)
Barack Obama 57 states: http://tinyurl.com/6cp7qs
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 03:17 AM (+FzLa)
Remember this?
94 I suggest taking that Glock and shooting yourself, HatlessHessian. You'll be in a better place.
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 12:59 AM (JLK25)
Funny how liberal puppet boys like Brett are always opposed to violence -- unless they're the ones pushing it.
Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at January 05, 2009 03:18 AM (WM9cd)
And eman, bringing up the "57 states" thing in the first place when you know it's not true is the very essence of a "talking point". Douchebag.
His point went zinging over your empty head, douchenozzle. If you weren't struggling with ADD brought on by your parents' divorce as a kid, you would have figured out the point: that Obama sounds like a moron when he's unrehearsed -- Hey, you and he have something in common! -- yet you hone your hypocrisy by excusing his flubs and salivating over Palin's. Eh, it's okay, though, you have no integrity. We expect that.
Posted by: Barbelle at January 05, 2009 03:18 AM (qF8q3)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 03:19 AM (JLK25)
Or hard work and giving money away to the less fortunate, unless their the ones doing it.
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 03:21 AM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 03:22 AM (ChNUu)
I don't know, maybe you could ask Barry's good buddy and neighbor Bill Ayres about that one. I'm at a loss.
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 03:22 AM (+FzLa)
Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at January 05, 2009 03:23 AM (WM9cd)
Hey Barbelle, when did you stop raping your daughter?
Whoa, you have some sick fantasies, dude. What, was your mom's hamster that disappointing?
Posted by: Barbelle at January 05, 2009 03:24 AM (qF8q3)
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 03:24 AM (0xhgx)
Though I can't approve of that one particular lifestyle choice of yours, you sound like an upstanding person and I'd be proud to work to spread conservatism with you.
Or be on a firing line with you, if things get bad.
Posted by: Thesher at January 05, 2009 03:25 AM (oHSZr)
So you do support violence and destruction of those with whom you disagree.
Not that this surprises us, given that you and the rest of the Obama supporters out there are screaming for Jews to "go back to the ovens".
Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at January 05, 2009 03:26 AM (WM9cd)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 03:26 AM (JLK25)
Cmon, Brett whaddaya say buddy? I'll even let you lift up the cusions and search my sofa for some spare change and stale potato chip's
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 03:27 AM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 03:27 AM (JLK25)
I believe you were addressing me. The answer to your question: Precisely the Rubicon that supplies the amount of pressure to squeeze the trigger of a Ruger Mini-14.
Which is why I said, "Watch where you step."
Posted by: Thesher at January 05, 2009 03:28 AM (oHSZr)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 03:29 AM (JLK25)
And yet here you are alive and kicking. You have failed your country sir.
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 03:30 AM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 03:31 AM (JLK25)
Naw, he's just one of those crazy conservatives, most of us don't want to kill you.
O.K., we do, but most of us just don't type it on the internet's
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 03:33 AM (+FzLa)
Fair enough.
Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at January 05, 2009 03:34 AM (WM9cd)
You can have all the change in my car. All the change in Blazer's couch. N. Dallas 30 will help you invest your retirement funds if you promise not to shoot anyone.
Included in this offer, opiates, a free pizza punchcard from Little Caesars and topless Tuesdays.
Will you change teams?
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 03:34 AM (0xhgx)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 03:31 AM (JLK25)
Spoken like a true Obama supporting Hamas worshiper.
Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at January 05, 2009 03:36 AM (WM9cd)
Yup.
Given that things like personhood of blacks and the Nuremburg Laws also, once upon a time, existed primarily in the realm of a "political disagreement," you better believe it.
Also, to calm your nerves, you don't have to be afraid of places like Planned Parenthood or Starbucks. You have to be afraid of any and all places with a clear line of sight up to and including one mile, in any direction, with wind under 5 mph.
Posted by: Thesher at January 05, 2009 03:36 AM (oHSZr)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 03:37 AM (JLK25)
Posted by: counter at January 05, 2009 03:38 AM (0xhgx)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 03:38 AM (JLK25)
Better yet, you give him your car, I'll give him my couch, that way he'll finally have something to drive and somewhere to sleep mom and dad didn't have to pay for. With all of the extra goodies, it'll be like he the fuckin' lottery or something.
I've had people killed and countries overthrown for less.
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 03:39 AM (+FzLa)
Posted by: Brett at January 05, 2009 03:41 AM (JLK25)
Well that's a start. If you would have said "one side", I was gonna throw in a years supply of Hai' Karate cologne with all of the other goodies to sweeten the deal..
Posted by: Blazer at January 05, 2009 03:44 AM (+FzLa)
Barbelle, you should know that a hamster's vulva is too small.... but then again, knowing you...
Nonsense, it wouldn't be too small for you, Give it a try the next time you pull it out of your mom's chute like a good widdle boy, provided you can stop yanking whilst daydreaming over me.
I'm not hateful. Y'all are.
Brett's biggest lie of the evening! So, when you're done shooting up those targets you've already named, will you commit suicide? Ot are you as big a hypocrite as you have thus far portrayed yourself to be?
Posted by: Barbelle at January 05, 2009 03:45 AM (qF8q3)
Well, whatever the evil GOP and all us conservative stormtroopers have wrought these last eight years-isn't President-elect Teleprompter Jesus and a Democrat majority in Congress enough of a penance?
Senator Al Franken? Come on, that is just running up the score, and folks who don't throttle back when they've got a RUTS going have a distressing tendency to fall on their face later.
Just ask Steve Spurrier.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at January 05, 2009 03:46 AM (wgLRl)
By the way, I have absolutely no opinion on the Israel-Gaza conflict. Both sides are fucked up and wrong.
Yep, you're both a coward and an idiot, summed up nicely with one ambivalent sentence.
Posted by: Barbelle at January 05, 2009 03:46 AM (qF8q3)
There are quite a few homosexuals commenting on this site. At least on real nice bi lady as well. They must not think "they" consider them lower than human.
Of course, Barney Frank is lower than human, so I'll give you that one. But that has very little to do with his love life.
Posted by: Ace's liver at January 05, 2009 03:58 AM (LtIsn)
Posted by: Thesher at January 05, 2009 04:15 AM (oHSZr)
Posted by: SGT Dan at January 05, 2009 04:17 AM (VZyOx)
Just had a liberal in Colorado plant some bombs, and two left-wing activists arrested for attempting to bomb the RNC convention....now which party is violent again?
Posted by: Harun at January 05, 2009 04:34 AM (Teqd3)
Posted by: Jefe at January 05, 2009 04:36 AM (vRp6h)
As an Australian, observing this as an objective and impartial spectator, I must say that I believe that Al Franken is the biggest pile of catshit in the known universe.
What the hell has happened to the U.S.A.?
It is so sad to see a once great nation reduced to this: first Ellison, then horrifyingly Obama, and now Franken.
As a member of the once-free world, I gotta say:
"Aaarrrggghhh!".
Posted by: Mike_W at January 05, 2009 05:57 AM (iwjvh)
If we held elections in July the Senate would probably be one or two votes more reasonable.
Posted by: Ace's liver at January 05, 2009 06:22 AM (LtIsn)
just wasn't sure which union... the UAW?
Posted by: CoolCzech at January 05, 2009 06:29 AM (iafWn)
Posted by: Unclefacts at January 05, 2009 07:29 AM (M+Vfm)
Well the liars steal another election while the courts and the spineless Republicans stand aside. Sure there have been some noises in the Senate about a “filibuster” of his appointment” but that is just another round of mouth help. This, however, is not the major disaster, other than another communist in the Senate who will be there at least 6 years, because Coleman was just another liberal squishy Republican as well. We should look at this as an “opportunity” to start cleaning house.
We should also start “finding ballots” in the trunks of cars and registering graveyards.
Posted by: Vic at January 05, 2009 07:30 AM (f6os6)
Which psychic predicted just "how bad" things would twist in the winds of change? And just how far does a prediction motivate its own realization?
Idea determines form.
Posted by: maverick muse at January 05, 2009 07:35 AM (F1b/5)
LOL
Unclefacts
Did you catch the brilliance Craig Ferguson brought as a guest celebrity on "Who wants to be a millionaire" that aired yesterday? HA, he and the former playboy bunny who grew up to become a San Quinton psychologist really made sparks fly.
Sabrina Williams (?) proved just how limited a pro athlete can be off the tennis court. Unbelievable contrast between her and Ferguson; it just wasn't "fair" to the contestants.
Posted by: maverick muse at January 05, 2009 07:42 AM (F1b/5)
Posted by: Mike_W at January 05, 2009 07:53 AM (iwjvh)
Posted by: Unclefacts at January 05, 2009 07:57 AM (M+Vfm)
Posted by: big D at January 05, 2009 08:07 AM (cifSn)
Posted by: drjohn at January 05, 2009 08:09 AM (uLFoR)
Posted by: drjohn at January 05, 2009 08:10 AM (uLFoR)
I saw the preview featuring Ferguson's antics and was pleased to catch this password type episode.
Regis I can do without; but as Regis tried to outperform Ferguson, there was entertainment to counter Regis' typical froo-froo frustration.
Posted by: maverick muse at January 05, 2009 08:20 AM (F1b/5)
Posted by: Unclefacts at January 05, 2009 08:20 AM (M+Vfm)
Progressive corruption is meant to undermine our very essence as Americans. That is the change we are up against.
Posted by: maverick muse at January 05, 2009 08:24 AM (F1b/5)
Posted by: Scipio at January 05, 2009 08:53 AM (JZz6U)
Brett,
Who ever runs the mental institution that you are kept at should take away your computer privileges.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2009 09:06 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Crush Liberalism at January 05, 2009 09:11 AM (8X9tr)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 05, 2009 09:13 AM (ZpELM)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 05, 2009 09:17 AM (ZpELM)
Anyone have the short version on how this happenned? How did we go from a several hundred vote lead to this?
What were the shenanigans?
Posted by: Micheal at January 05, 2009 09:24 AM (iggjG)
He's "Mister Franken", and he was "selected" to the office of Senator.
Not legitimate, and shouldn't be treated as such.
Posted by: Sockless Joe at January 05, 2009 09:48 AM (UazZY)
Somebody tell George Bush that...he might disagree.
Posted by: Muellerman at January 05, 2009 10:16 AM (gI2KD)
Uh...
What?
Posted by: Palooka at January 05, 2009 10:42 AM (vaYHl)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2009 10:43 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: katya at January 05, 2009 10:53 AM (oRJZj)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 05, 2009 11:08 AM (OjuC4)
He was, and no worries. If I demanded everyone like everything about me or I hated them, their families, their ancestors, and the ground on which they walked, I'd be......a liberal.
Conservativism is, at its core, realizing that there is more to the world than your ego.
Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at January 05, 2009 11:28 AM (WM9cd)
I'm actually excited about this. If anyone can help create a public backlash against democrats, this guy is it. My only regret is that the Dems cuoldn't get a Filibuster, as I want them to have an administration where they can't blame anyone for their decisions.
Posted by: T. AKA Ricky Raw at January 05, 2009 11:33 AM (1QzMk)
Posted by: verbatim at January 05, 2009 11:36 AM (PTVm3)
My only regret is that the Dems cuoldn't get a Filibuster, as I want them to have an administration where they can't blame anyone for their decisions.
If you mean that they didn’t get their filibuster proof Senate they got that all the way back at the election WITHOUT Al the Fuckin’. Don’t forget that there are at least 4 or 5 Dems with R’s after their name who will vote with them on every issue. There are about 5 more R’s who will vote with them on half the issues. Coleman falls in that category.
Posted by: Vic at January 05, 2009 11:56 AM (f6os6)
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at January 05, 2009 02:48 PM (VuPm1)
Posted by: eugeneromero at January 05, 2009 05:25 PM (7jHFy)
It would have been better if the Dems had ended up with 60 seats. This way they can always clam such-and-such policy didn't work because they needed to get the Republicans to sign off on it. In reality, it will be impossible for the Republican leadership to sustain a filibuster unless that's what the Democrats want. So Dingy Harry gets to have his cake and eat it too.
We've come face to face with the worst case scenario.
Posted by: B. Ayers at January 05, 2009 06:26 PM (XIXhw)
Make up your mind.
There's just something amazingly pathetic about someone crowing over Al Franken winning an election. That's like crowing over Pee Wee Herman winning a beauty contest for your side. You sure you want to claim him that vigorously?
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"But it's very important for our party not to narrow its focus, not to become so inward looking that we drive people away from a philosophy that is compassionate and decent and I --
my call for our party is to be open-minded about different people's opinions. We shouldn't have litmus tests whether or not you are a Republican.
And we should be open-minded about big issues like immigration reform. Because if they're viewed anti somebody, if the party is viewed as anti-immigrant, then
another fellow may say, well if they're against the immigrant, then they may be against me. We have to be a party FOR a better future."
apologies for the Huffington link, I can only get the quote in bits and pieces from Fox and it's spread out over 3 pages there.
http://tinyurl.com/bush-quote-3
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