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| Bush Pardons 19, But Not Compean and RamosRagnar notes he did have the compassion for this pardon: John Allen Aregood of Riviera, Texas. Conspiracy to harbor and transport illegal aliens.Also at the Jawas: Only 20% of MSM stories mention scandal-ridden Ohio AG Mike Dann's party affiliation. Guess what percentage mention "Republican" when reporting Palin's daughter's boyfriend's mother's drug bust? I'll let you click for the answer. Comments1
and nothing for those who actually deserve it, the BP DUO.
Screwed again, neh? Posted by: enter sandman at December 23, 2008 10:23 PM (zxaA2) 2
Bush is doing a fine job of acting like Mccain on this one: jabbing us conservative folks in the eye.
Posted by: enter sandman at December 23, 2008 10:24 PM (zxaA2) 3
Oh, yeah...FIRST,...WASSUP.
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Ace, how's your sleep problem coming?
Any changes there? Posted by: enter sandman at December 23, 2008 10:25 PM (zxaA2) 5
MY GOD, I can't believe he let Ramos and Compean rot!!
Please, end the Compassionate Conservative/NYT-sensitive Republican, before it's too late. Posted by: PJ at December 23, 2008 10:27 PM (GVdvM) 6
Pigs don't shit where they eat..fuck the MSM.
Posted by: sickinmass at December 23, 2008 10:28 PM (/i4dU) 7
btw, it's Marc Dann The other - more nuanced media snowjob - is the overhyping of a critical report of Dann by the Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner. Now that Dann is fully under the democratic bus here in Ohio, ultra-partisan Jennifer Brunner has piled on with a very critical report which, naturally, is getting lots of press attention. When you have Dann listed without his party affiliation - and he's getting whacked by well-known democrat Brunner - the impression left is that Dann is probably a republican. Posted by: ja at December 23, 2008 10:28 PM (xzBuJ) 8
WTF GWB?? Let Cheney finish your term. Thanks for the finger.again.
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Do you notice that every personal scandal (Mark Foley) is a GOP scandal but every single scandal that has tentacles throughout the party (Blagojevich) is the scandal of an individual and doesn't taint the Democrat party?
Do you also notice that it takes almost no time for Democrats to be corrupt? Emanuel is proving that you can be corrupt before actually taking office. Like a fetus of a scandal. Too bad for Obama that he has decided not to abort the scandal by throwing Rahmbo under the bus. Posted by: AmishDude at December 23, 2008 10:37 PM (on8ea) 10
My Christmas wish?
A pardon from Bush for Harold Fish. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15199221/ Hey, that rhymes! I'm a poet and I didn't even... realize it. Posted by: ExUrbanKevin at December 23, 2008 10:43 PM (toqoX) 11
OT - Well, I won't have access to AoS for the next few days (off for vacation), really hoping that I won't miss any flaming skull stories! Merry Christmas morons!
Posted by: IC at December 23, 2008 11:01 PM (P32hP) 12
In case my message hasn't been clear enough for the past ~8 years... you know all those Border Patrol openings that I was forced to create post 9/11? Yeah, don't bother applying. They weren't ever really meant to be filled, by golly. What are you, idjits? And those of you leaving now because you are too demoralized to serve the nation? Eh. What can you do. Maybe GM/Chrysler is hiring.
Suckers. The lot of ya'. Posted by: George Bush, National Security Expert & Conscience to the Nation at December 23, 2008 11:01 PM (sI5Ho) 13
In my book, Ramos & Compean are guilty of nothing but poor marksmanship.
If BDS is the term used to describe irrational loathing of President Bush, what's the term for rational disgust? Posted by: Andy at December 23, 2008 11:11 PM (B+HYX) 14
Bush is not going to pardon Ramos and Compean. The US District Attorney who put them in prison is a good buddy of his.
Posted by: GarandFan at December 23, 2008 11:38 PM (237hA) 15
If BDS is the term used to describe irrational loathing of President Bush, what's the term for rational disgust?
Conservatism Posted by: Xander Crews at December 23, 2008 11:55 PM (Aac1T) 16
GarandFan,
Yep. That trial was the Bush Administration's none-too-subtle way of saying to BP agents, "Do your job, but not too well. IYKWIMAITYD." See, it just makes sense that you send tens of thousands of soldiers across the globe to defend a foreign nation from foreign intervention, but secure your own nation's? Why, that's just crazy talk. I'll probably miss GWB, but not much. On a happier note, Merry Christmas morons! May a seasoned hobo, a fifth of Valu-Rite, and a door-squeezing, enhanced-boobage, Japanese lovely fill your stocking. And I know you pervs have stockings. Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 24, 2008 12:01 AM (sI5Ho) 17
Of all the odd, infuriating, appalling things President Bush has done over the years, the Ramos/Campean has always been the most perplexing and unnerving. These two men are examples for Something Big, Something Important (insert air quotes). Being fairly untrained in the art of conspiracy theory I can only make some hazy guesses concerning a kind of EU amalgamation of the Americas. On the other hand, it could be as simple as what GarandFan suggested in #14. I just don't know. I feel so bad for Ramos and Campean and their familes and friends. Just fucking damn. Posted by: PaleoMedic at December 24, 2008 12:24 AM (yiNoG) 18
GWOT GWOT Keep saying it to yourself, and try to forget that we elected this fuckbag president of the U.S. Remember, like we (me too) did during the last election with mav? Let this be a lesson to us. Posted by: jdub at December 24, 2008 12:35 AM (hUStE) 19
Why don't they mention the meth head trailer trash mother-in-law-to-be is a Democrat?
Posted by: Tattoo de Plane at December 24, 2008 12:36 AM (EJmQG) 20
How many illegal aliens will get a pardon as long as he is paying favor to the outlaw nation sending its crinimals to us
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at December 24, 2008 01:04 AM (b2ETh) 21
This is sooo scary, especially considering how many of my family members are becoming Border Patrol agents this year.
I only wish I would have happened to my ex-sister in law, who by the way was an illegal alien when she married my brother. Serves him right however, she saw green card and a nice house in San Diego County, he saw tits. Posted by: pajama momma at December 24, 2008 01:12 AM (kWQTL) Posted by: pajama momma at December 24, 2008 01:12 AM (kWQTL) 23
Amen, Paleomedic.
Posted by: PJ at December 24, 2008 01:15 AM (GVdvM) 24
she saw green card and a nice house in San Diego County, he saw tits.
Fair trade. Posted by: VRWC Agent at December 24, 2008 02:29 AM (o2slJ) 25
GWB isn't quite the liberal squish "Republican" his dad was, but there are times he comes sickeningly close.
I don't think even the Republican Party wants a genuinely conservative president. Posted by: SGT Dan at December 24, 2008 06:45 AM (nyLnk) Posted by: Unclefacts at December 24, 2008 06:58 AM (M+Vfm) 27
A president usual makes more pardons/commutations in January.
Posted by: Moron in the dirty raincoat at December 24, 2008 07:01 AM (8r0JG) 28
Oh, and how many of you have actually written Bush and politely requested a commutation for them?
Posted by: Moron in the dirty raincoat at December 24, 2008 07:03 AM (8r0JG) 29
#25 - yep ... I think being a conservative is out of fashion these days. Just don't get the BP thing. It's almost like the Obama admin is starting early. Live inTexas, voted for GWB twice for Gov and twice for Pres, but this BP thing, along with some others, like the never ending push for a Pali state at whatever cost, and the immigration issue, really tick me off.
Posted by: Wolverine at December 24, 2008 07:12 AM (33CDr) 30
I have signed the petitions and sent a letter to have R & C pardoned, but I saw a lawyer on something the other day, don't have the clear details because I just caught the tail-end, but he said they probably wouldn't get pardoned. He was saying there was more to the case the public didn't know? and that Bush probably wouldn't interfere in it. I wish I knew what the show was, I could hunt for a clip, but I was traveling and it was a local type program. This lawyer seemed very sure there was more to the story about what they did, but I don't get it. I thought I had seen/read pretty much the whole dillio, so I guess we will have to hope he does it right before he leaves, a big bang thing. Of course, if there IS something bad we haven't been privy to.....................................
Posted by: di butler at December 24, 2008 07:45 AM (qPIRP) 31
Oh, and how many of you have actually written Bush and politely requested a commutation for them?
I did. But don't request a commutation, request a pardon. A commutation's better than nothing, but a pardon will wipe the conviction from their records. Another thought I had on this issue is that the NRA takes a lot of heat for opposing "common sense gun laws," but the charge that put these 2 guys in prison the longest was possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony, nothwithstanding the fact that they're required to possess a firearm to do their fucking jobs. Common sense gun laws sound great until they're put in the hands of an overzealous prosecutor. Posted by: Andy at December 24, 2008 08:22 AM (B+HYX) Posted by: DSkinner at December 24, 2008 08:29 AM (ZK9NM) 33
28 Oh, and how many of you have actually written Bush and politely requested a commutation for them?
Posted by: Moron in the dirty raincoat at December 24, 2008 07:03 AM (8r0JG) Newsflash: I've emailed Bush and the DOJ several times over illegals and border security. Don't kid yourself. No President sees the e-mail addressed to them. They don't care. They have a buffer of personnel who read the correspondence, send back an "acknowledgement of receipt" and not much else. Posted by: sfcmac at December 24, 2008 08:49 AM (BmCwT) 34
I feel like Bush is personally giving me the finger on this one. F the Bushes! F them to the tenth generation!
Posted by: V the K at December 24, 2008 08:50 AM (d2fuu) 35
We may have a better chance at getting a Ramos and Compean pardon out of Obama. Unlike Bush, Obama seems to actually care what people think.
Posted by: V the K at December 24, 2008 09:22 AM (d2fuu) 36
I have signed the petitions and sent a letter to have R & C pardoned,...
Good. Letters by snail mail have the most effect. They are requesting a commutation – not a pardon. All cases have facts that don’t come out. However, in big cases like this where the public has the right to know, it would have come out. Who was this atty? I did. But don't request a commutation, request a pardon. A commutation's better than nothing, but a pardon will wipe the conviction from their records. Great! However, see above. They are asking for a commutation. Another thought I had on this issue is that the NRA takes a lot of heat for opposing "common sense gun laws," but the charge that put these 2 guys in prison the longest was possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony, nothwithstanding the fact that they're required to possess a firearm to do their fucking jobs. I’m sure some smart appellate atty has tried this argument before. Newsflash: I've emailed Bush and the DOJ several times over illegals and border security. Don't kid yourself. No President sees the e-mail addressed to them. They don't care. They have a buffer of personnel who read the correspondence, send back an "acknowledgement of receipt" and not much else. I never kid myself. The amount of email is overwhelming. Who would want a president who reads all his email? Snail mail and telephone calls are more effective. And while President Bush won’t read the letters or pick up the phone, his minions do and they keep score. A million letters would have quite an effect. So, that’s four.... Posted by: twat sucks donkey balls at December 24, 2008 09:24 AM (8r0JG) 37
Par for the course. The most reasonable sounding conspiracy theory I've heard on this is that Mexico is one of our top 2 oil sources, (the other is Canada, but I can't remember what order they are) and they're linking loose controls on illegal immigration as part of the deal for their oil. Makes sense to me, anyway.
Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at December 24, 2008 10:06 AM (ltwze) 38
Guardians of our sovereign borders put a hurt on the spirit of neighborliness desired from the "New World Order" of the Bush scion. "Little things..." really do "...mean a lot" when the Federal gov't uses its power to criminalize the sworn duty of civilian law enforcement. It also puts many rightwingers on the same side with the Troofer retards in wanting to see some investigations of serious dirty dealings. You don't quash rumors of conspiracies by covering for people like Johnny Sutton.
Posted by: J David at December 24, 2008 10:15 AM (/OcX/) 39
I think the deal was that Ramos and Compean got hung out to dry in exchange for "cooperation" with counter-narcotics operations.
Posted by: V the K at December 24, 2008 10:16 AM (d2fuu) 40
Hung out to dry for favors from the corrupt and festering sty that is the Mexican National Gubmint. What else do you expect from a Yankee who moved to Texas to be part od his family's business, oil, and then went native a hundred miles farther south? Bush is and always has been a Patrician in the classical sense of the word, and getting his hands dirty getting the two BP guys out of the Texas Federal Klink would put a big cramp in his post office, Texas Big-Wig Stylings. He WANTS to be accepted by the kind of American, like that Texas DA, who prosecutes his own people for doing a dirty job he himself refuses to acknowledge. How many Soldiers, Marines, Airmen, and Sailors involved in the GWOT have been needlessly and wrecklessly persecuted,uh prosecuted, to blunt criticism from the left? Hell, that puke Murtha has made it his stock in trade since 05 and Bush has not said or done a thing to the contrary since. He leaves the military swinging from the left's rope, the same for Campeon and Ramos. They're sacrfiicial lambs at this point. He will sacrifice these two to make things easier for him in the post Prez world of Texas elbow rubbing and ass kissing. Count on it. I thinnk even McLame would have given them their freedom by now, and that says alot about Bush, and none of it's good.
Cantankerous and getting worse by the year, Sandman. Viva La Morons. Posted by: enter sandman at December 24, 2008 10:35 AM (51663) 41
Or is it Viva Los Morones? Idioticos? That one sounds bad. I like the first one myself.
Posted by: enter sandman at December 24, 2008 10:37 AM (51663) 42
The EU was once a much maligned conspiracy theory, too.
Posted by: MlR at December 24, 2008 12:22 PM (CzY+b) 43
As a Fed working on the border, the guy you wanna cap has got to do three things in order for you to make that all important attitude adjustment. He must show intent to harm. He must have a means to do the deed. And he has gotta be close enough to get the job done. If he does all three of these things and then runs, you start all over. Far as I can see, the little drug runner didn't meet any of benchmarks when he was shot. He was shot in the back for Christs sake! Where I come from (Texas) you don't shoot a man in the back and then fiddle evidence. There is a code. follow it. Posted by: exfed at December 24, 2008 01:23 PM (Xomyd) 44
Lists of Presidential pardons are heavy on the drug runners, you might have noticed. The ones on those lists usually, uh...work for the government, let's say. The guy Ramos and Compean capped probably did, too. It would explain a lot.
Posted by: Knows Things (Not This Thing, But...) at December 24, 2008 01:39 PM (EVXuq) 45
Ramos and Compean deserve to rot in prison. the new Conservativism : We're all for Law and Order, unless its our guys doing the lawbreaking and we think it was for a "just" cause, because now (just like the Liberal Left we used to be opposed to) the End justifies the Means. You Ramos and Compean apologists make me sick. Posted by: blogRot at December 24, 2008 03:17 PM (EKMxC) 46
Fuck, blogRot is back. I thought it would still be somewhere jacking off because Obama won.
Listen, troll, I've broken rules for the sake of a mission too, with the understanding from my commanders that if I got caught, it was my ass. One time I did get caught, and it cost me. The job still got done. That's the price you pay working for Uncle Sam. These guys paid enough, they don't need to be federal felons forever for the sake of a fucking Mexican border-jumping drug runner. As far as I'm concerned they fucked up by letting him live, so getting caught was on them for shitty marksmanship. Posted by: SGT Dan at December 24, 2008 07:52 PM (5ZI7f) 47
Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila, the illegal alien drug runner involved, is the REAL cause of all this trouble. If HE had NOT been attempting to SMUGGLE drugs into OUR country in the FIRST place, the Ramos-Compean tragedy would NEVER have happened!
Posted by: Holly Dutton at December 29, 2008 08:36 PM (7zh+h) 48
We are not going to get anywhere with this fat head Bush. Compean and Ramos can rot in their cells before he will commute their sentences. Bush can pardon a darned turkey; maybe it was relative of his! Is this ever a crazy situation.
Posted by: ruth cherico at January 01, 2009 08:45 PM (iuNkK) 49
I do not think the curse words need to be used in the comments, but I really think GW turned out to be a not so good president. He will pardon drug smugglers and others, but will keep the agents in prison. Does he even think about their families and what they are going through? This is really sad for our nation and especially the Republicans. I hope Obama will look into this situation and that Johnny Sutton will be out of there. I hope he, Sutton was not born in Texas. I hope no Texan would be so awful. Paybacks are not so good and I hope Sutton gets his and really soon. He does need to sit in the cell next to one of the agents.
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Democratic Forays into Erotica New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party" Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?" Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance Collective Names for Groups of People John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive" Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments John Edwards Campaign Excuses John Kerry Pick-Up Lines Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney Torments in Dog-Hell Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny More Margaret Cho Abuse Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed" Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means Wonkette's Stand-Up Act Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report! Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet The House of Love: Paul Krugman A Michael Moore Mystery (TM) The Dowd-O-Matic! Liberal Consistency and Other Myths Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate "Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long) The Donkey ("The Raven" parody) News/Chat
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