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"I'm also eager to apply some of the lessons we have learned here in Chicago to help school districts all across our country:" Obama's Pick for Ed Head Managed a 17% Grade-Level-Reading Rate in the School District He Oversaw

Thank Goodness the Democrats are back in charge. It was really a tough eight years, with the country being run by incompetents and all.

Glad we've got the A-Team back in action.


When Arne Duncan grows up, he wants to ether be a fireman,
a cowboy, the Hulk or a dinosaur

In 2007, only 17 percent of eighth graders tested at or above grade level in reading in Chicago Public Schools – the school system administered by Arne Duncan since 2001.

President-elect Barack Obama on Tuesday tapped Duncan to become secretary of education in the upcoming administration.

Duncan, hailed by Obama as a reformer, said he would like to take the lessons he learned in Chicago with him when he moves to Washington. “I'm also eager to apply some of the lessons we have learned here in Chicago to help school districts all across our country," Duncan said after Obama formally named him to the job in Chicago.

According to the U.S. Department of Education’s National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) report for 2007, Chicago public schools have consistently performed below the national average during Duncan’s tenure.

Duncan said that America's children could succeed exactly the way Barack Obama did -- with the help of shady Chicago fixers and a nurturing, doting media. "I want to put CNN behind every child in America, and smother every student with Chris Matthews' borderline-sexual devotion," Duncan said.

I may have added that last bit.

Compromise? WSJ:

[W]e have argued on behalf of vouchers that would let parents of students in the poorest public schools have the same shot at a sound education as do more affluent children, such as those of Mr. Obama. The opposition from public teachers' unions to this or almost any significant reform is legendary. Thus, we listened closely when Senator Obama said nearly nothing during the campaign that would offend the unions, mostly urging more spending on preschool and after-school programs.

We now read that Mr. Duncan is an ardent proponent of public charter schools, though probably not of vouchers for private schools...

The three most innovative urban school chiefs are Michelle Rhee of the District of Columbia, Paul Vallas of New Orleans and Joel Klein of New York City. Had Senator Obama picked any of these, the unions would have gone to the mattresses in opposition. Arne Duncan is thus a compromise choice, and we will have more to say later on his record in Chicago. We know from experience, though, that any genuine school reformer eventually arrives at crunch time with these unions, and either confronts them or gives up.

Ah, the unions again. Back in charge.


Posted by: Ace at 03:15 PM



Comments

1 The man has Biden teeth.  I don't trust anybody with Biden teeth.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 17, 2008 03:20 PM (VW9/y)

2 Hmmm!  Pay to play.  Was he involved in the Annenberg Challenge at all?  Is this a reward for his silence during the heated Ayers days?  Just asking questions.

Posted by: Judd at December 17, 2008 03:20 PM (Vu/kE)

3 Its a good thing for his students that reading isn't required to get into college anymore.

Posted by: kefka at December 17, 2008 03:21 PM (fKivs)

4

Democrats! Is there anything they can't make better?

 

Let's pray that this shit only lasts 4 years.

Posted by: nikkolai at December 17, 2008 03:22 PM (+RLn7)

5 Yeah, this is awesome. The guy who's schools weren't good enough for Obama's own daughters is now in charge of all of the schools. Fantastic. I'm sure he'll "reform" our schools just like he did in Chicago.

Posted by: Jeff_McAwesome at December 17, 2008 03:22 PM (vLz51)

6 Not only was Duncan involved in the Annenberg Challenge gambit, but reading and math scores deteriorated during the course of his - ahem - tenure.

chsw

Posted by: chsw at December 17, 2008 03:22 PM (6KFZ+)

7 Not only this, but undoubtedly, they're going to make homeschooling illegal, or nearly so. Sonsabitches.

Posted by: AngelEm at December 17, 2008 03:23 PM (+Ql9y)

8 I sure hope Rezko gets cut loose so he and Obama can do to inner city housing what Duncan did to edumacation.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel, Donk Intellectual & Favor Distributor at December 17, 2008 03:23 PM (sI5Ho)

9

Coming from the school system that gives kids money for grades he's a perfect choice.

Earn an A, get $50. A B gets you $35 and even a C gets you $20. Get straight A's and you could earn $4,000 by the end of the year. You get half up front and the other half when you graduate.


Chicago Public Schools CEO Arne Duncan says the program is an incentive, not bribery as some have called it. He said the program is intended to discourage failure and to encourage kids to graduate.

School officials will pay for the program with a $5 million grant. They're also looking to raise another $2 million from private donors. If the program is a success, they will add more schools and pay more students.

More corruption we can believe in!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 17, 2008 03:24 PM (1Jaio)

10 Me happy dat man goin to help udur skools lyk he did mine

Posted by: this buddy of mine at December 17, 2008 03:27 PM (h8m1I)

11 Hold on here, this is a white guy!  Is there no black, lesbian, single mother who is as under-qualified as him for the job?

Same old, same old.  White men running the country.  What happened to Changetm?

Posted by: wiserbud at December 17, 2008 03:28 PM (wWwJR)

12 Paying students for A's?  That's not even original.  My grandma did that.  Of course she only paid for A's.  No money for C's.

Posted by: chemjeff at December 17, 2008 03:28 PM (wy+AE)

13

Was he involved in the Annenberg Challenge at all?

Why yes, yes he was.  Well according to Barack Obama anyway.

The suggestion that Ayers somehow dominated the policy or direction of the bipartisan Challenge Board, imprinting it with radical views, is absurd. The Annenberg Challenge was funded by Nixon Ambassador and Reagan friend Walter Annenberg. Republican Governor Jim Edgar, who wrote to Walter Annenberg to encourage the creation of the Challenge, joined Mayor Daley to announce the formation of the Challenge and his administration continued to work closely on education reform with the Board. John McCain has praised an initiative funded by the Challenge. The Challenge’s work is still carried on today through to the bipartisan Chicago Public Education Fund, which coordinates closely Chicago Public Schools CEO Arne Duncan and Mayor Daley to improve teacher performance and has included such board members as Illinois Republican Party Chair Andrew McKenna.

 http://tiny.cc/eqsfu

Posted by: JackStraw at December 17, 2008 03:28 PM (VW9/y)

14 What were the numbers before he started there? If, for example, he took them from 10% to 17%, that's an entirely different situation than taking them from 25% to 17%.

Posted by: Greg Q at December 17, 2008 03:28 PM (87k2j)

15 Is there no black, lesbian, single mother who is as under-qualified as him for the job?

No.  They have all gone to Australia to help keep whitey down.

Posted by: chemjeff at December 17, 2008 03:29 PM (wy+AE)

16 It will be alright, this is the guy who taught wiserbud, and he turned out ok

Posted by: this buddy of mine at December 17, 2008 03:31 PM (h8m1I)

17 Duncan went on to say, off the record, that this was the best job he ever bought.

Posted by: ricky at December 17, 2008 03:31 PM (TERmA)

18 This guy also oversaw the implementation of the first all homo schools in Chicago.

Although there's nothing wrong with gettin' them all in one place.

Posted by: Iblis at December 17, 2008 03:31 PM (9221z)

19

#4  "Let's pray that this shit only lasts 4 years."

Let 's pray that things are only bad the first two years and wait for the midterm elections.

******

I've been an administrator (on the business side) for a very large school district and I can tell you that a 17% success rate in Texas will get you in the unemployment line.  Anything under 80% will have the clock ticking on you.

Posted by: slug at December 17, 2008 03:32 PM (n8Nln)

20 17% of Chicago Public School students, nearly half, are unable to read or do basic math at grade level - CNN.

-

Let's not forget that Bush has been President during these childrenes's time in public school. That had to have had an effect.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at December 17, 2008 03:33 PM (8WOzU)

21 President Teleprompter will inspire his administration (and the bots) with "his confident smile and kind eyes". So, don't worry about a thing, folks.


Posted by: Andy in Texas at December 17, 2008 03:34 PM (OaUQL)

22

Well, at least it wasn't Ayers. But, this is still a huge disaster for public school education in this country. Of course public school education was aleady headed for disaster so what the hell.

Why am I still sending my kid to a public school? I have no idea.

Posted by: ParanoidInSeattle at December 17, 2008 03:34 PM (AJ4xq)

23
I'm more concerned with Obama's pick for Secretary for Energy -- some douchebag physics professor from Berkeley.

He's a global warming enthusiast, of course. So we can forget about any new nuclear plants, coal, or domestic drilling. Gas and electric prices are going to soar under Obama.

The Republicans, if they get their act together, should be able to easily to back the House in 2010. But they won't because they're spineless wimps and assholes.

Posted by: Bart at December 17, 2008 03:36 PM (A9QNK)

24 It will be alright, this is the guy who taught wiserbud, and he turned out ok

True story:

This buddy of mine went to one of those all-gay schools in Chicago.  For his senior project, he worked as the glory-hole attendant for a solid week. 

He has been able to use the experience he gained there to pay his rent more times than you can imagine.

Posted by: wiserbud at December 17, 2008 03:38 PM (IHbof)

25

17% of Chicago Public School students, nearly half, are unable to read or do basic math at grade level - CNN.

You know what this means?  Misspelled protest signs.

Posted by: huerfano at December 17, 2008 03:39 PM (knHvu)

26 Duncan said that America's children could succeed exactly the way Barack Obama did -- with the help of shady Chicago fixers and a nurturing, doting media. "I want to put CNN behind every child in America, and smother every student with Chris Matthews' borderline-sexual devotion," Duncan said.

The above Ace, is you at your best.  These gems make me a fan.

Posted by: Alamo at December 17, 2008 03:41 PM (Mqupr)

27 You know what this means?  Misspelled protest signs.

NO JUSTIS, NO PEAS!

Posted by: wiserbud at December 17, 2008 03:42 PM (wWwJR)

28 I want to see the Republicans fighting every one of these appointments tooth and nail, all the time while screaming "stare decisis".

Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2008 03:42 PM (q8aAJ)

29

Another Obama cabinet appointee from Illinois.

Dec. 17 (Bloomberg) -- Representative Ray LaHood, an Illinois Republican known for his willingness to criticize his own party and to work with Democrats, is likely to be named by President-elect Barack Obama as his choice for Transportation secretary, according to a person familiar with the selection.

LaHood, 63, whose district includes the headquarters of Peoria, Illinois-based Caterpiller Inc., has known Obama for more than a decade and is close to Rahm Emanuel, the Illinois congressman designated by the president-elect as White House chief of staff.

 

See? The messiah will have a Republican in his historic administration.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 17, 2008 03:43 PM (1Jaio)

30

Chicago....

Isn't that in Canada?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 17, 2008 03:45 PM (B+qrE)

31 Bart @ 23: Do not concern yourself, my friend.  Did you actually think that the U.S. Department of Energy actually had something to do with energy production?  Most of what DOE does is to fund the national labs.  So the physics douche's job will be to keep the gravy train flowing.  Actually I am kinda glad that it's a physics professor in charge.  They tend to be less moonbatty than your typical leftwing ideologue, since they actually have to have a brain capable of logical reasoning before being awarded a degree in a physical science.

Posted by: chemjeff at December 17, 2008 03:45 PM (wy+AE)

32 Wow, only 17% read at an 8th grade level or above in 8th grade. Makes Detroit's 25% high school graduation rate look almost respectable.

Posted by: shibumi at December 17, 2008 03:48 PM (tZB/c)

33 Oh and here's a bit of a highlight as a result of NCLB testing in math.  Chicago ranks next to the bottom when it comes to proficiency in math at the fourth-grade level. 

Posted by: chemjeff at December 17, 2008 03:49 PM (wy+AE)

34 The teachers unions are orgasming over the choice of Duncan. This is like tobacco companies cheering over a surgeon general pick.

Posted by: V the K at December 17, 2008 03:50 PM (PLvLS)

35 Just another facet of Obama's "No Terrorist loving crony failure left behind act."

Posted by: FreakyBoy at December 17, 2008 03:50 PM (4s1it)

36

democrats need their supporters to stay stupid and poor so they can keep getting elected....

“I'm also eager to apply some of the lessons we have learned here in Chicago to help school districts all across our country," Duncan said after Obama formally named him to the job in Chicago.

education is overated anyways .... said the messiah of change

ignorance is bliss and the obama admin is banking on it

Posted by: nygal at December 17, 2008 03:52 PM (+/c0N)

37 Duncan will do the Democratic bidding - keep 'em stupid so they'll continue to elect us.

Posted by: GarandFan at December 17, 2008 03:53 PM (237hA)

38

They tend to be less moonbatty than your typical leftwing ideologue, since they actually have to have a brain capable of logical reasoning before being awarded a degree in a physical science.

How does that square with the thousands of scientists backing the global warming fraud?  Short answer, it doesn't.

Scientists have proven to be as willing to massage data to meet their agenda as anyone.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 17, 2008 03:54 PM (VW9/y)

39

Apparently those underperforming students were not familiar yet with the Chicago pay to play techniques.

Any good Chicagoan familiy would instruct their kid to offer the teacher half of the money they would receive for getting an A.

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2008 03:56 PM (m2CN7)

40 How is 17% ' almost half ? '

Posted by: Shaved Ape at December 17, 2008 04:09 PM (ljP2J)

41 How is 17% ' almost half ? '

It's kind of tricky. You have to use imaginary numbers, like eleventeen.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 17, 2008 04:18 PM (InMdt)

42

The thing is, those kids maybe can't read, but they sure are indoctrinated in Hate Whitey.

After all, what is a Marxist Dialiectician to do if he can't do that?

Let's all give a big warm round of applause for Bill Ayers and the marvelous people who have overseen the massively fucked up school systems in our country.

They deserve medals and prizes, and nice junkets, with free golf!

I hate these fuckers.

Posted by: Sen. Gov. E. Buzz Miller, PhD at December 17, 2008 04:31 PM (sf4Oe)

43 "It's kind of tricky. You have to use imaginary numbers, like eleventeen."

How cromulent.

Posted by: Chicago 8th-Grader at December 17, 2008 04:33 PM (sI5Ho)

44 In 2007, only 17 percent of eighth graders tested at or above grade level in reading in Chicago Public Schools – the school system administered by Arne Duncan since 2001. President-elect Barack Obama on Tuesday tapped Duncan to become secretary of education in the upcoming administration.

Duncan, hailed by Obama as a reformer,


So.. how well were the schools doing before they were reformed?

Posted by: Dave C at December 17, 2008 04:42 PM (7Vqoy)

45
Man,  could those teeth take a bite out of a hobo's ass or what?

You throw that guy in a no-holds-barred-hobo-cage-death-match,  and my friend,  you've got yourself a winner.

And no.  It won't be pretty.

Posted by: Dang at December 17, 2008 04:53 PM (Y5LIx)

46 How is 17% almost half?

Eleventy times twelveteen equals almost half of 17%.

So there you have it.

Posted by: Dang at December 17, 2008 04:57 PM (Y5LIx)

47

"I want to put CNN behind every child in America, and smother every student with Chris Matthews' borderline-sexual devotion," Duncan said.

Ace still has teh funnay!

Posted by: Warden at December 17, 2008 05:05 PM (QoR4a)

48 Imagine how fucking brilliant Obama could have been if he had attended a public school at any time during his formal education. The poor abused little fucker had to make do with private schools the entire way from nappies to Harvard. Woof! Talk about handicapped.

Young Barry didn't ever get any free cheese. And it shows, oh how it shows.

Posted by: dr kill at December 17, 2008 05:06 PM (JWAjn)

49 My uncle has teeth like those. I saw them in a glass one night.

Posted by: dr kill at December 17, 2008 05:07 PM (JWAjn)

50

The other thing not mentioned is that 45% of all students in that school system are gay.

It was deemed a high priority by the bureaucrats that gayness be taught rather than algebra.

What's sick is that comment isn't that far off the mark of how things really are.

Posted by: Sen. Gov. E. Buzz Miller, PhD at December 17, 2008 05:10 PM (sf4Oe)

51 ...glory-hole attendant

I hate to ask, but what does such a job entail? Cleaning and wiping down the edges? Making sure everyone gets a turn and no-one takes cuts? Lookout for vice cops? Enforcing the establishment's wide-stance policy?

Posted by: OregonMuse at December 17, 2008 05:11 PM (FO+YO)

52 How long before we find out that Arne Duncan is a pedophile?
Taking bets..

Posted by: sickinmass at December 17, 2008 05:19 PM (/i4dU)

53

Everyone knows that the Chicago public school system sucks up to and including the Messiah.  The Messiah has such confidence in his good friend's leadership that he sends his own children to a pricey private school in the city.

Posted by: Illinidiva at December 17, 2008 05:27 PM (BZuwT)

54

How long before we find out that Arne Duncan is a pedophile?
Taking bets..

I won't take that bet. Not only is this freak a pedophile, he's probably a cannibal as well. He fucking eats the kids after he rapes them. I mean, look at those choppers. Tell me I'm wrong.

Posted by: jaleach at December 17, 2008 05:30 PM (gHrZU)

55 They were bragging earlier as to how he raised the test results by 300% or something or other.  Guess that means he brought their reading comprehension up from 6% to 17%!!  Hooray Chicago, that's as good as premature Japanese infants!

Posted by: dfbaskwill at December 17, 2008 05:38 PM (ympAm)

56 jaleach.. word is he monitors the GH for the summer dolt's when the senior moved on.

Posted by: sickinmass at December 17, 2008 05:40 PM (/i4dU)

57

Well, as Barney Frank said on Sunday to 60 MINUTES:

"You can't get elected by telling the voters that, yeah it sucks but if it weren't for me it'd suck worse."

I couldn't make that up.

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at December 17, 2008 05:54 PM (SWWmS)

58

Hey, reading is way over-rated.  Cavemen did just fine with stick figure scrawlings on cave walls.  The school children of the future will be in great shape as long as there are Harvard-educated community organizers around to tell them how to live their lives.

But seriously, until school teachers make $100,000 per year, HOW do you expect them to teach anything?

Books=bad, Youtube=good.

Posted by: History at December 17, 2008 05:58 PM (XWJh5)

59 That school that they did the presser in front of had better scores because they knocked down the projects (Henry Horner Homes) about a block or two south of it. They will never say that. All the projects are down in favor of scattered site housing. Looks like Barney Frank is gonna have a new boytoy in Arne!

Posted by: LtE113 (MIke in Chicago) at December 17, 2008 06:07 PM (/L1AV)

60 I looked at the NAEP "Nation's Report Card" referred to in the link.  Just to clarify, it's really not meaningful to say that Chicago's 8th graders performed below the national average, because the great majority of urban districts performed below the national average.  That's why the suburbs are so popular. The report states that Chicago 8th grade students performed at the average for all urban areas that participated in the study.  Exactly average.  And it's not that this Duncan fellow raised the performance.  It's about the same as it was in 2002.  So now we know he can take an urban school district performing at the average for urban areas and keep it there.




Posted by: Chris at December 17, 2008 06:18 PM (B/WwP)

61
"The three most innovative urban school chiefs are Michelle Rhee of the District of Columbia, Paul Vallas of New Orleans and Joel Klein of New York City."

Vallas was head of the Chicago schools before Duncan. He played a key role in saving the system when it was on the verge of collapse in the late 1990s. Duncan came in after Vallas resigned under pressure - he'd pissed off the unions once too often. Vallas is a hell of a good administrator, and he'd have made an excellent education secretary.

Posted by: Brown Line at December 17, 2008 06:22 PM (xYeJ1)

62 Thank goodness I only have one kid left in public school.  4 yrs. to go baby!  We live in the West so schools are actually pretty good here so far.  Most of the teachers are staunch Republicans, in spite of the fact that they all belong to a union.  Even OBlahblah can't screw up all the schools in four years.  We should be OK. 

Posted by: WonderWartHog at December 17, 2008 06:43 PM (LVT6e)

63 Hey!  I just looked at Arne Duncan, that's not a man, that's a 56 Buick!

Posted by: WonderWartHog at December 17, 2008 06:44 PM (LVT6e)

64 You don't need to be literate to vote democrat and collect welfare.  Rather than being incompetent or negligent, I prefer to think of him as a keen administrator with laser like focus on the things that matter.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 17, 2008 07:07 PM (Z0HFQ)

65 Average = the new 'above average'

Posted by: East Bay Jim at December 17, 2008 07:17 PM (ocHBO)

66 I'll vouch for Arne, but this guy don't need no stinkin' vouchers.

Posted by: grizzly bare at December 17, 2008 07:43 PM (2I7Ys)

67 Government of the failures, by the failures, for the failures.

Why, when I look at that picture, do I hear "Ayuck-ayuck-ayuck!" echoing through my mind.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at December 17, 2008 07:58 PM (yIy7z)

68 It's rare to see a photo of someone caught in mid "Duuuuuuuuhokay boss"

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at December 17, 2008 08:11 PM (LxjSI)

69 I swear, if I ever actually have kids, I'm homeschooling.

Posted by: SGT Dan at December 17, 2008 08:20 PM (vfDxP)

70 I'm looking at that grill and thinking ..."Good Christ, Is this what you get when you breed people and sharks? I mean look at that freaking grill, folks...That's JabberJaw going there." Sure as shit stinks, and probably a seasoned hob-eating cannibal as well. Jeez, those teeth look like the freaking mouth of tyrannic sore assed Rex.
Creepy, in the 1st Degree.

Posted by: enter sandman at December 17, 2008 08:26 PM (zxaA2)

71 Democrats. Dumbing down the country one child at a time.

Posted by: William Teach at December 17, 2008 08:46 PM (7yTel)

72 skools ar gud arownd hear.

Posted by: tapperz at December 17, 2008 09:01 PM (H1t5a)

73 I predict Mr. Duncan will make our schools gooder.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Evil Brother at December 17, 2008 09:28 PM (eKsNy)

74 He was also just signed for the remake of "The One who flew over the cuckoo's nest" (Michelle's biopic)

Posted by: sickinmass at December 17, 2008 10:22 PM (/i4dU)

75

Ministry of Education. History will record that on December 7,1941 the United States bombed Hiroshima, (wherever the hell that is) and two days later bombed Nagasaki, (sounds Polish), thus starting the Great Muslim Wars.

So said the Reverend Doctor Jeremiah Wright, and damn that brother knows shit. Know what I sayin'.

Posted by: solitary knight at December 17, 2008 10:27 PM (qr+e4)

76
almost 50% of chicago high schoolers graduate, so thats something. Duncan has spent bazillions on brand new super duper deluxe college prep high schools. when i say bazillions, obie can't even imagine numbers that big, and the result? those grads are almost as good as the suburban schools.

but Duncan is a smooth politician and he is obie's one-on-one partner, so its all good

Posted by: billypaintbrush at December 17, 2008 10:45 PM (Qzoqb)

77 I wonder how much he raised in "contributions" to get this gig.

Posted by: wiserbud at December 17, 2008 11:47 PM (EW49d)

78

"When Arne Duncan grows up, he wants to ether be a fireman,
a cowboy, the Hulk or a dinosaur."

Now that's funny.

These douchebag unions- in this case, the teachers' unions- will once again set a course for the destruction of the educational system. They need more money, you see, but ask them how you measure the effects of that investment and they'll say "Well you can't do that without more money."

They're allergic to yardsticks. More of that Chicago Way.

Posted by: drjohn at December 18, 2008 12:04 AM (ToVRf)

79

pay for play, now I know why we are getting rid of our lame ass gov, nappie as homeland security. She is the stupidest person I have seen, Janet reno's girlfriend.

Seriously, I was trying to find a reason she got that job.

Afer Blago, now its crystal clear

 

How about the openly gay guy for Naval Sec, I thought it was a joke.

God help us

Posted by: bob hussein dole at December 18, 2008 12:06 AM (yl9yA)

80 hey 17% of those kids can kinda read and 37% of them are going to graduate with out being able to read their unemployment benefits...you know how hard it is to graduate with out learning how to read? ....give them some credit you racist sob

Posted by: e.koenig at December 18, 2008 12:10 AM (2J+Vs)

81 You know who actually is a reformer - Michelle Rhee, the Chancellor of the DC school system.  But the teachers unions hate her so O would never go with her.

Posted by: toetotoetotoe at December 18, 2008 01:18 AM (wD0yO)

82

"You know what this means?  Misspelled protest signs."

"NO JUSTIS, NO PEAS!"

*So, we can look forward to a generation of kids who spell worse than LOLcats do?  Let the good times roll.

Posted by: Nicole at December 18, 2008 01:53 AM (3txVD)

83 Seventeen percent of Chicagoans are literate and seventeen percent of Chicagoans vote republican. hmmm.

Posted by: eaglewingz08 at December 18, 2008 08:36 AM (W88Qb)

84 Hey Circa good idea, lets trade Chicago to Canada for Alberta and one of the maritimes.

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