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Newt To RNC: Give The Blago-Obama Thing A Rest

McCain I expect this stuff from, but Newt? I seem to remember a young(er) Newt throwing rhetorical bombs on the floor of the House at some point and even having some success with that strategy but not now.

I was saddened to learn that at a time of national trial, when a president-elect is preparing to take office in the midst of the worst financial crisis in over seventy years, that the Republican National Committee is engaged in the sort of negative, attack politics that the voters rejected in the 2006 and 2008 election cycles.

The recent web advertisement, “Questions Remain,” is a destructive distraction. Clearly, we should insist that all taped communications regarding the Senate seat should be made public. However, that should be a matter of public policy, not an excuse for political attack.

In a time when America is facing real challenges, Republicans should be working to help the incoming President succeed in meeting them, regardless of his Party.

From now until the inaugural, Republicans should be offering to help the President-elect prepare to take office.

Furthermore, once President Obama takes office, Republicans should be eager to work with him when he is right, and, when he is wrong, offer a better solution, instead of just opposing him.

This is the only way the Republican Party will become known as the “better solutions” party, not just an opposition party. And this is the only way Republicans will ever regain the trust of the voters to return to the majority.

This ad is a terrible signal to be sending about both the goals of the Republican Party in the midst of the nation’s troubled economic times and about whether we have actually learned anything from the defeats of 2006 and 2008.

The RNC should pull the ad down immediately.

Well Newt, I'm not sure what 'better solution' the GOP can offer beyond, you know, if someone offers you a pay to play scheme for a Senate seat, call the cops.

Now, we don't know yet for sure that that happened. Though we did just spent the last 8 years hearing about the patriotic nature of dissent and the importance of asking questions. All of that was during a time of war, which surely is no less important than the economic challenges we face, and yet suddenly everyone has to play nice?

This doesn't strike me as some minor thing either. In these days of government 'investment' in private companies, isn't of some import to know whether or not the President-elect or much more likely someone on his staff was approached with a bribery scheme and may not have gotten around to reporting that to the authorities?

I'm on record a bunch around here about the need for Republicans and conservatives not to go all nutroots for the next 4 years but that doesn't mean hardball politics goes out the window. I am not a fan of unilateral disarmament.

And while I think being the party and movement of ideas is right and necessary, the Democrats have shown over the last few years have shown that playing politics can produce results ("culture of corruption" ring any bells?). There's nothing wrong with Republicans doing both.

Below is the RNC video that Newt and McCain find so unhelpful.

Posted by: DrewM. at 01:04 PM



Comments

1

The reason why Newt is doing this is because ultimately, he's still a Washington insider.  Rush Limbaugh said that people like Colin Powell and other insiders are jockeying to be at the side of Obama because they want media attention and influence.  Newt is no different.

 

Posted by: Sydney Carton at December 16, 2008 01:09 PM (nWYwS)

2 Hey Newt, Blow Me.

That's all I got today.

Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at December 16, 2008 01:09 PM (iYbLN)

3 Very true! Once one assumes a role in Washington, he almost instantaniously becomes corrupt and easily manipulated.

Posted by: conservativethinker at December 16, 2008 01:10 PM (xvFEi)

4 Obama should be treated as well as George Bush was.

Posted by: Conn at December 16, 2008 01:11 PM (o6DfR)

5

Worse economic crisis in 70 years? By what standard of measure?

The stock market? No

The unemployment rate? No

The mortgage interest rate? No

The inflation rate? No

The GDP? No

The democratic spin that pushed us beyond the normal cycle of correction?Yes

Posted by: polynikes at December 16, 2008 01:11 PM (m2CN7)

6 Fuck Newt.  He's been one of "them" for years now.  He let the press & the dems grind him down into the pussy he is today.

Posted by: rickinstl at December 16, 2008 01:13 PM (MvmeX)

7 Gingrich got $300K in 2006 to lobby for Fannie and Freddie. Now he's pointing fingers at others for their regulatory failures. I'm not interested in anything he has to say.

Posted by: Bugler at December 16, 2008 01:13 PM (YCVBL)

8 I'm proud to be a member of the 'Blow me Newt' club since 1999. 

Posted by: polynikes at December 16, 2008 01:14 PM (m2CN7)

9 the Republican National Committee is engaged in the sort of negative, attack politics that the voters rejected in the 2006 and 2008 election cycles.

How have the voters rejected negative, attack politics? The Dems won and thats all they offered.  Oh plus the promise to change the hyper-partisan atmosphere(that they created) in Washington.

The GOP ran a 'reach across the aisle' liberal for president in 2008.  Attack politics is looking really good right now next to that mistake.

Posted by: kefka at December 16, 2008 01:16 PM (fKivs)

10

The voters didn't reject the GOP and McCain in 2008. They accepted Obama's 600 million. People should stop harping on negative ads. In terms of absolute numbers Obama ran ten times more attack ads than McCain. The press phrased it in terms of percentages and seems to have won that argument. Apparently Newt is an idiot for believing it. A constant negative campaign over months worked for Obama. A condensed four day attack campaign didn’t work for McCain. The RNC is right to enter a constant campaigning mode.

 

Posted by: robtron12 at December 16, 2008 01:16 PM (gue+Q)

11 I don't think it was necessary for Newt to expand on his statement as much as he did (by saying things like "In a time when America is facing real challenges, Republicans should be working to help the incoming President succeed in meeting them, regardless of his Party."), but overall I agree that this ad is not particularly helpful to the RNC. NOT because I think that Obama is anything other than a lying liars who lies, but because the ad is not an ad at all. Advertisements are supposed to generate a response -- but no action is requested at the end of this video. And, frankly, what action should the RNC expect to get from the public anyway?

It seems to me that it is the role of sitting Republican politicians to comment on the Obama Senate seat scandal and to push for remedies, like having a special election. Anything the RNC does is properly interpreted as strictly partisan politics (and, therefore, much less effective), whereas Republicans in office can legitimately say that they are working on behalf of the people who elected them.

The RNC's focus right now should be to choose a new leader, do a thorough post-mortem on the election, and devise a strategy for winning in 2010. In addition, the RNC should be pushing on the Coleman-Franken recount situation, which is much more serious anyway. Finally, they should be doing their best to identify a strong candidate for Obama's seat, should Illinois hold a special election.

So although I think Newt's statement was a little verbose (which led to it be more supportive of Obama than necessary), I don't think his position is some big betrayal.

What does Steele think?

Posted by: Y-not at December 16, 2008 01:19 PM (dC8te)

12 Blow Here, Blow Now.

Posted by: kiffen at December 16, 2008 01:20 PM (XnuxH)

13 No Justice, no peace.

Posted by: Techie at December 16, 2008 01:21 PM (MHre4)

14
Newt has been drinking Peggy Noonan's eggnog.

Posted by: Hurricane Mikey at December 16, 2008 01:22 PM (OmIEH)

15

Newt must have another book coming out.

Psst, Newt. Go The Fuck Away.

Please, and stay away.

Posted by: solitary knight at December 16, 2008 01:23 PM (zzEX0)

16 It's not nutrootsy to point out that the sitting Democrat governor who is from a city run by Democrats was caught on tape (allegedly uh huh sure) trying to sell the Senate seat of the Democrat who was elected President.  That's all, what's the word I want, true. 

I know my shrieking frustration stems from the utter and total unwillingness of the RNC and most Republicans to play any ball at all, let alone hardball.  Stand up for yourself, for fuck's sake!

Posted by: alexthechick at December 16, 2008 01:23 PM (SHHaV)

17 Newt fell off the conservative wagon years ago. I don't know what caused it, perhaps too much time in Academia (the disease seems to be communicable).

Posted by: chuck in st paul at December 16, 2008 01:25 PM (jDpso)

18 Fuck Newt; his time is gone.  Palin's the future and the only person I want to hear from.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 16, 2008 01:25 PM (ougKX)

19 I wonder how much AWG special interest money Newt's getting right now. That little chubby he has for global warming ain't free, it's f'in golden and he's not just giving it away.

Posted by: Bugler at December 16, 2008 01:25 PM (YCVBL)

20

People should stop harping on negative ads. In terms of absolute numbers Obama ran ten times more attack ads than McCain. The press phrased it in terms of percentages and seems to have won that argument.

Don't forget the media which basically was just another arm of the obama campaign.  Running more negative stories on McCain than positive or neutral when compared to Obama.

 

Posted by: buzzion at December 16, 2008 01:26 PM (Lrsi6)

21 Newt just likes the smell of duh1's ass.

Posted by: Javems at December 16, 2008 01:27 PM (hq71Y)

22 Unfortunately it sounds like he and McCain feel that politics in general is under threat. It's not just the Democrats that are under increased scrutiny but all pols involved in horse-trading and deal making. While the Blago graft is indefensible, corruption is a spectrum that ranges from the benign to the truly pernicious. Newt's not a pol anymore but probably feels some sense of solidarity with the others; McCain's known for sprinting to 'reach across the aisle' so there's no wonder he feels threatened.

Posted by: adamthemad at December 16, 2008 01:28 PM (kIjlp)

23 . . . As I believe I was saying - this guy has no business being given another leadership position, much less RNC chair.

Posted by: AD at December 16, 2008 01:29 PM (zceVg)

24 I gotta say, I agree with Newt.

I'm a conservative who is completely turned off by the republican party. It's been over-run by Limbaugh "ditto-heads" and christian-coalition wackos.

Sorry, I'm looking for honest dialogue about using conservative principles to solve our country's problems. Let the Blagojevich investigation run its course without snide remarks. The GOP is certainly not innocent of corruption.

Posted by: anonymous at December 16, 2008 01:29 PM (dxxkS)

25

With regard to the is post and the one two-down from here, "there was no inappropriate contact ...."  Fine.  But early on, somebody in the O-camp had to tell Blago that Valerie Jarret was O's favorite, unless osmosis or a Jedi mind trick put it in Blago's m-f'n head.  Rahm?  Axelrodster?  Big-O?  Who?

Posted by: monsoon at December 16, 2008 01:29 PM (Fyntg)

26 When did this scandal break? Let me think about that ... hmmm if I recall less than a fricking week ago. Most of the "electorate" doesn't even know about it and Newt wants the GOP to give it up. Is Newt really that out of touch? Does he really think the entire country is up on all this political insider horsetrading?

Kept it up GOP and leave a mark.

Posted by: Long Island at December 16, 2008 01:29 PM (F/5qw)

27

Its beginning to feel a lot like 1974 all over again, with stiffs like Newt working hard to fill the role of the pussies that used to call themselves the Republican Washington "leadership".

Where's our next "Reagan"?

Posted by: Fred at December 16, 2008 01:30 PM (RUlgl)

28 I think their point is, hey it's not October, folks. What is it you hope to accomplish by dogging Obama every second with this ? Nothing, that's what. So, yeah, I see their point. If anything you'll start sounding like the leftards calling for Obama to be impeached before he's even inaurgurated.

I mean do you really think he committed a crime here ? Let alone one that anyone has any interest in prosecuting, IF they could prove it ?

Get real.

Posted by: deadrody at December 16, 2008 01:31 PM (TxMs4)

29 It wasn't too long ago that Newt was in a commercial with Pelosi, of all people, crying about AGW.  So yeah, this doesn't come as much of a surprise.

Posted by: Thrush at December 16, 2008 01:32 PM (ww074)

30 "Anonymous," you forgot the "concerned Christian" in your description.  Doesn't hurt to throw in "lifelong Republican," "I voted for Bush in 2000," "I worked on Reagan's campaign."  You got to brush up, son/daughter!

Posted by: notropis at December 16, 2008 01:33 PM (1ucvq)

31

Fuck Newt. He has gone over t the dark side long ago. Anyone who believes in the AGW fraud is either an idiot or a crook.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2008 01:33 PM (q8aAJ)

32

Worse economic crisis in 70 years? By what standard of measure?

The stock market? No

The unemployment rate? No

The mortgage interest rate? No

The inflation rate? No

The GDP? No

The democratic spin that pushed us beyond the normal cycle of correction?Yes

 

It's time to panic motherfuckers!!

Why, we haven't had an umemployment number of 6.8% since..... Bill Clinton was in office.

Why, we haven't had a DJIA of 8500 since... a couple of years ago.

Worst fuckin economy evah!!

 

Newt, you've lost your spine for a proper political insurgency so go back to blowing Nancy on the global warming couch.

Posted by: turtle at December 16, 2008 01:34 PM (tm/sN)

33 Can anyone ever remember a Democrat saying something like this, ever?

Posted by: Tony B at December 16, 2008 01:34 PM (Ceeat)

34 Thats right, nothing to see here folks...move along. How dare the opposition party ask questions of a political scandal that erupted in his own damn backyard with folks he worked with? Newt can piss off...I hear Pelosi's got a spot empty on a bench somewhere, jerk.

Posted by: changer1701 at December 16, 2008 01:35 PM (xEHEN)

35 Yeah, well, I may have to go back to using a pseudonym when I post here, but I don't entirely disagree with Newt.

I don't think the RNC should roll over, but I think they should leave the outright attacks to the Right Media. The RNC should demand hearings, demand transparency, loudly and repeatedly bemoan the loss of trust in government that the Obama administration will have if it fails to hold *anyone* implicated in the scheme accountable. They should also insist on a special election in Illinois, for "the good of our country," and to "restore faith in the institutions of government."

Then, when BO does not hold his people accountable and the Illinois machine picks the new senator, the RNC can "sadly" criticize the Obama Administration and the Democratic Party for "once again putting party above principle," and repeat that charge whenever the Obama Administration behaves like Democrats always do. 


Posted by: V the K at December 16, 2008 01:35 PM (PLvLS)

36 How delightful. I have missed our "concerned Christian conservative" brethren.

Posted by: AD at December 16, 2008 01:35 PM (zceVg)

37 Why should the GOP stop? It looks like Alexrod's life long republican minions are still hard at work posting away.

Posted by: Long Island at December 16, 2008 01:35 PM (F/5qw)

38 I'm a conservative who is completely turned off by the republican party. It's been over-run by Limbaugh "ditto-heads" and christian-coalition wackos.

That's funny, it seemed to me to be over-run by a shitheaded RINO named McCain who fucked all of us conservatives in the ass sans lubrication.  Are you sure you're a conservative or just a cocksucker still playing the part that Axelrod prescribed for you?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 16, 2008 01:35 PM (ougKX)

39 You're all just as guilty as the fools in the media eternally searching for their Watergate "Gotcha Moment". There's no campaign to be won and the average joe that you are complaining doesn't know a thing about this ? They won't remember this in 2 years and certainly not 4. So explain the rationale behind pushing this, other than you hate that Obama won and you want to see him suffer.

Posted by: deadrody at December 16, 2008 01:35 PM (TxMs4)

40

The fix is totally in for Obama - not even Newt will challenge him.

 

Posted by: geoff - anti-Harkonnen freedom fighter at December 16, 2008 01:37 PM (5r0Tz)

41 If one could count on the media to do anything resembling what they claim is their job there could be some merit to this whining. Is Newt adopting the McCain strategery of running against his base? Of course when it comes to questions of class warfare, and by that I mean the political class against everyone else, Bush can also be counted on to stick with his peeps. Why else would he put a moratorium on deportations just as Barry's dear auntie was found to be illegally here and in public housing? It is the RNC's fiduciary duty to stand on the nuts of unwary Democrats just as it is their duty to proclaim whatever truthful thing helps whatever nominee. Recently that was McCain and previously Bush but these two and Newt have short, short memories. Looks like even the topmost levels of the party have swallowed hard the MSM naratives that R=Good and D=Bad. Compassionate Conservatism yields to Merciless Liberalism.

Posted by: megapotamus at December 16, 2008 01:38 PM (LF+qW)

42 As a concerned Christian Republican I find it unseemly to infer that someone would be involved in filling their seat. I guess it depends on one's point of view but this is just piling it on. What would Obama Jesus do?

Posted by: Moby Dick at December 16, 2008 01:38 PM (hq71Y)

43 Can we please replace the Republicans with a living party?

Posted by: The Obvious at December 16, 2008 01:38 PM (1g+FW)

44 There's no campaign to be won and the average joe that you are complaining doesn't know a thing about this

Exactly and that it why it important to hammer this shit over and over again. What do you think the dems did with Bush?

Posted by: Long Island at December 16, 2008 01:38 PM (F/5qw)

45 How about this?

The Dems stop being corrupt pieces of shit, and we will quit calling them on it.

K

Posted by: Kestrel♠ at December 16, 2008 01:40 PM (8f7XF)

46 Anonomys is just another one of those people who listen to the critics of Limbaugh without obviously listening to, you know, Limbaugh.

Posted by: Judd at December 16, 2008 01:42 PM (Vu/kE)

47 Jesus...   Why is it that the people who do the MOST DAMAGE to our party are the very members themselves?  They won't fight a propaganda machine endangering the US with NS leaks, but inquire about the connection between an Obama aid, and Obama himself regarding this truly despicable crime, and out come the wrist slappers.  We need a new party.  How about  the 'We don't castrate ourselves' party?  Serioulsy  I am sick and tired of the pussy boys who insist on taking the 'high ground' instead of jumping on their fuckin throats.

FUCK!


Posted by: Melodic Metal at December 16, 2008 01:42 PM (0TU9n)

48 What is it you hope to accomplish by dogging Obama every second with this ?

Pretty much the same thing the Left/Dem/Media axis was doing screaming "SELECTED, NOT ELECTED!" at Georgie New Tone - as in, damage him before he even takes office.

Worked wonders the last 8-years, no?  So that's the new Democrat-approved rules of political engagement for the 21st century.  If you don't like it, find something else to do in your free time - or get used to losing, a lot, for the rest of this generation.

Posted by: DocJ at December 16, 2008 01:43 PM (g8ibn)

49 Yerch, obviously my formula should be reversed, but you knew that. Doctor Hate, are you my daddy?

Posted by: megapotamus at December 16, 2008 01:43 PM (LF+qW)

50

"So explain the rationale behind pushing this, other than you hate that Obama won and you want to see him suffer."

Why shouldn't the American people know what the Obama team knew about what that a-hole was trying to do? If its important to shout from the mountaintops that Sarah Palin has a goddamn tanning bed and try to make hay out of that, why can't the GOP do the same thing with an actual scandal? What if Rahmbo wanted to make a deal at first...that's the President-Elect's Chief of Staff involved in pay to play...before freaking Inauguration Day!! That's not important?

Posted by: changer1701 at December 16, 2008 01:47 PM (xEHEN)

51 Not good enough, Newt. Those testes are still in the lock box. Now, get back in her and service like the good doggie you are.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 16, 2008 01:48 PM (1V2sa)

52 "Where's our next "Reagan"?"

She's in Alaska considering her options and getting restraining orders against Andrew Doucheivan.

As for Newt, I have to assume he's still harboring delusions that he's a viable GOP presidential candidate, and we all know that the only chance a Republican has of winning is to run as a watered down Democrat.  That approach has an amazing track record, doesn't it?  Works every time!

Posted by: Kensington at December 16, 2008 01:49 PM (fhJCy)

53

I mean do you really think he committed a crime here ? Let alone one that anyone has any interest in prosecuting, IF they could prove it ?

Do I think Obama committed a crime here?  Realistically no, but there is a small chance of it.  Do I think one of Obama's lackeys possibly a higher up lackey was involved?  Definitely a better chance of that being the case.  Do I think that there is a chance that this investigation could wind up pointing to possible corruption Obama was involved in?  Yes I do.  Or do you believe you can go walking into a horse's stall everyday for 10 years and never expect to step in crap?

Posted by: buzzion at December 16, 2008 01:50 PM (Lrsi6)

54

A ton of trolls posting about how great Newt's bullshit Obama propaganda release is today.

 

Posted by: geoff - anti-Harkonnen freedom fighter at December 16, 2008 01:51 PM (5r0Tz)

55

Oh this reminds me of the good ole days of Enron.  You know that business scandal that evolved during the Clinton Administration and prosecuted during the Bush administration. I like how the opposition decided to just let this non political scandal drop. 

What? They didn't.  You mean they tried to connect Bush to Enron because Enron was based in Texas and Bush was from Texas?  You don't say. 

Posted by: polynikes at December 16, 2008 01:52 PM (m2CN7)

56

So explain the rationale behind pushing this, other than you hate that Obama won and you want to see him suffer.

Jeezzz isn't that enough? How may reasons you want?

Posted by: robtr at December 16, 2008 01:54 PM (uJzOr)

57

Newt is playing to the middle on this one, positioning himself as a 'let's all get along centrist' for the sake of a possible presidential run in 2012. Watch as he tries to extend his credibility beyond that segment of the Republican base which still inexplicably perceives him to be some kind of political genius. In my view, the man is a hypocritical weasel, calling for Clinton's impeachment while simultaneously engaging in the same kind of sexual misbehavior Clinton favored. Btw, a guy who has a woman service him orally (without reciprocation) so he can claim under oath he didn't have 'intercourse' is an asshole, period. If you don't agree, ask any woman out there. (Okay, not any woman, but you see my point.) I also looked into the rumors and found out, yes, he actually did hit his ailing, now ex-wife with a divorce demand on her sick bed.

Lastly, given the slimy, crooked campaign Obama ran, why are we being enjoined by the likes of Gingrich and McCain to refrain from legitimate criticisms of the President-elect? I say resist Dear Leader at every turn, on every issue, and attack whenever the opportunity presents itself--for example, when Obama's closest associates and advisors are neck-deep in a pay-for-play scandal. McCain's strategy of losing honorably should be confined to McCain. Screw Newt.

Posted by: troyriser at December 16, 2008 01:55 PM (NfkMy)

58 I'm so tired of republican pussies. 

Newt, you are history in my book.

Posted by: BillyBob at December 16, 2008 01:56 PM (7HyI+)

59 Newt's basically right. 

The GOP needs to be doing reconnaissance.  Watch how the proto-administration handles the situation as it is, look for the weaknesses in their response.  Observe which media outlets actually pay attention to the story and which ones continue to protect the Golden Calf.  Start to build the body of evidence that these guys are just another bunch of corrupt Dems. 

If Fitzgerald wanders over to Obama HQ with a few of his best FBI buds and an indictment in his coat pocket, then the GOP can crow.  Until then, this is just dirt for the pile. 

Posted by: mrkwong at December 16, 2008 01:56 PM (G8Eo0)

60 oh and fuck you Newt.

Posted by: robtr at December 16, 2008 01:56 PM (uJzOr)

61

Teddy buys the NY Senate seat for his niece in exchange for quick federal money for New York and Paterson - who will run on that "aid" (PAYOFF) in 2010 to keep his job as NY Governor.  NYC is getting killed economically because of the investment banking collapse.......and Teddy promises to keep up the money sigot that's already going (TARP) while also opening up new spigots of "aid" to the "state/local" governments - translation, tons of money to NY, being the 2nd biggest state and NYC being the biggest city.

What did the dem Governor of Delaware sell his Senate seat for? Remember Biden's kid announced he was "not interested" one day? Perhaps that was also related to negotiating price, just like the Jarrett announcement?

Funny, the media can't seem to put together the pieces that are in plain sight.

Posted by: geoff - anti-Harkonnen freedom fighter at December 16, 2008 01:59 PM (5r0Tz)

62 Observe which media outlets actually pay attention to the story and which ones continue to protect the Golden Calf.

Let me answer that one now.

Pretty much all of them.

Posted by: Long Island at December 16, 2008 02:00 PM (F/5qw)

63

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Tip from the Sun-Times:

Rahm "Greasy Cocksucker" Emanuel on tape 21 times discussing O's Senate seat with Blago camp

Posted by: Max Cady at December 16, 2008 02:00 PM (waaUg)

64
It's just a way for Newt, McCain, and the other twits to keep their name in the news. They should stfu.

Posted by: Remember the Kat-Mo! at December 16, 2008 02:01 PM (cGCtZ)

65

Fuck Newt. 

Posted by: Mr. Pissed at December 16, 2008 02:01 PM (KZKfb)

66
"Can't we all get along?"

No! Fuck you, next question!

Posted by: Remember the Kat-Mo! at December 16, 2008 02:03 PM (cGCtZ)

67 And frogs ,toads and salamanders.

Posted by: twat at December 16, 2008 02:03 PM (H1t5a)

68

We had no contact with Gov. Blagojevich.

Except for the 21 contacts thru my Greasy minion, Rahm Emanuel

Posted by: Pres Elect Bullshit at December 16, 2008 02:03 PM (waaUg)

69
So explain the rationale behind pushing this, other than you hate that Obama won and you want to see him suffer.

Posted by: deadrody at December 16, 2008 01:35 PM (TxMs4)

Dumbass: it's called the death of 1,000 cuts. It's how the media destroyed Bush after his 90% approval ratings.


Posted by: Tinian at December 16, 2008 02:04 PM (Ohodx)

70 Obama lied on the first day of this scandal.  He said he or his team had no contact.  Should that just be ignored?  The press, the left banged the Bush lied drum on much less evidence to quite alot of success, should that just be ignored?  Why is Obama lying to the American public before he even takes office?

Posted by: Judd at December 16, 2008 02:04 PM (Vu/kE)

71 366-Do you have a penis on your forehead?

Posted by: twat at December 16, 2008 02:05 PM (H1t5a)

72

I did not have gay corrupt sex with that man- Governor Blagojevich

A blowjob is not sex

Posted by: Pres Elect Bullshit at December 16, 2008 02:06 PM (waaUg)

73

I was through with Newt a year or so ago when he had his little faux climate change debate with John Kerry. It wasn't a debate. It was a love fest where Newt was kissing every square inch of Kerry's ass. Then after that Newt toyed with the idea of running for the presidency which I suspect he never intended to do but just did it to get himself back in the public eye and maybe sell some more books.

Newt is old news. He should go retire somewhere with whichever wife he's married to now.

Posted by: t.ferg at December 16, 2008 02:07 PM (2YVh7)

74

Pardon me while I spend the next 4 years gazing off mesianically into the cosmos like I do so cool and effectively while giving speeches and on rockin' stickers and buttons worn by dopey college fucks

 

Posted by: Pres Elect Bullshit at December 16, 2008 02:08 PM (waaUg)

75 This is not the Rahm Emanuel I knew.

The Rahm Emanuel I knew would not have been so stupid as to have FUCKING ALLOWED HIMSELF TO BE RECORDED!!!!!!!

Fuck me, I'm fucking surrounded by idiots.

Posted by: President-Elect Bambi at December 16, 2008 02:08 PM (IHbof)

76

Newt,

If the media did their job and reported with anything even approaching objectivity about the Lightworker, then the RNC could afford to softpedal things and be statesmanlike, and above it all. Gee, that really worked well for the Repubs when Bush reached across the aisle early in his tenure. The Dems tried to chew his arm off and then called HIM out for being partisan. And, boy, playing nice sure served McCain well in the general election. The Dems and the media really gave him and Sarah Palin a lot of credit and goodwill for his moderate tone didn't they?  

We went through eight years of misery where the Dems whined and moaned incessantly like Bratzillas over everything George Bush did. And they won, they got their way. They basically, IMO, held us hostage. Elect the Dems, we'll move the liberal platform forward. Elect Repubs, we'll make everyone miserable until we're in power again.

You don't want to alienate people needlessly, so the Republicans need to be careful because the media will spin it any way possible so as to make them out to be the bad guys (remember the government shutdown in 92-93?). But on the other hand, after what the Dems did for the past eight years, I see no reason for the gloves not to be off when the opportunity presents itself. Don't pick fights, but when one comes your way and you have a shot, fight to win, no quarter.

What does Chuck Zito say? "Treat me good, I'll treat you better. Treat me bad, I'll treat you worse."

Posted by: RM at December 16, 2008 02:09 PM (8nB5X)

77

I agree with the headline at least. Blagobama is a dead letter.  First, Obama will be bulletproof, not just because of unicorns but because people reflexively support the POTUS.  Second, Obama doesn't get his hands dirty.  He wants to be president, he doesn't want to do president.  Third, people will naturally view Obama as the good-hearted king being betrayed by disloyal advisers.

The story here should be Blago-Emanuel.  He is probably on tape giving a quid or maybe a quo.  Nobody will feel an emotional need to defend him and, in fact, nobody who knows him likes him.

Moreover, if Obama has to throw Emanuel under the bus, that's getting rid of a puppetmaster -- far more damaging than trying to go after Obama.

 

Posted by: AmishDude at December 16, 2008 02:09 PM (T0NGe)

78 #70 The success of the banging of the Bush lied drum is due tu the fact that he is a fucking liar.

Posted by: twat at December 16, 2008 02:10 PM (H1t5a)

79 So explain the rationale behind pushing this, other than you hate that Obama won and you want to see him suffer.

A naive desire to expose corruption in government? The quaint belief that people have the right to know what kind of sleazy deals their elected representatives are involved in?

Posted by: V the K at December 16, 2008 02:13 PM (PLvLS)

80
"I mean do you really think he committed a crime here ? Let alone one that anyone has any interest in prosecuting, IF they could prove it ?"

In this case, probably not. But the public is oblivious to the fact that Obama is the product of the most corrupt political machine in the United States. That he is friends and associates of such people as Rod Blagojevich, Richard Daley, Emil Jones, and Todd Stroger. A public that is aware of that fact will bring some much-needed skepticism to Obama's bullshit about hope and change. These are not the fevered fantasies of some conspiracy nut: these are long-standing, well-documented relationships among members of the Cook County Democratic machine, of which Barack Obama is a paid-in-full member.

Since the news media is intent on burying this information, it's our right and, in truth, our responsibility to see to it that it's broadcast as widely as possible.

And besides: payback is fun!

Posted by: Brown Line at December 16, 2008 02:13 PM (xYeJ1)

81 This is the same shit we did when the bribery stuff with William "Cold Cash" Jefferson first surfaced. remember, the Rs were still in power in Congress. We played by the Marquis de Queensbury rules - Fellow member, the exec branch doesn't get to interfere, blah blah. Meanwhile (and for quite a while at that), the Dems and libs were playing from W. T. Sherman's playbook - burn 'em all, let God sort 'em out. Who won that exchange?

I'm all for keeping it real, but this is NOT beyond the pale - its real, it is directly related to the incoming administration, and if there is an unethical connection, it DESERVES to be fully investigated. It is not a "distraction", it is a possible insight to how politics may work in the Obama administration, and thus how "shit gets done". No matter what the hopenchange crowd may think, he's NOT so perfect as to be above proper scrutiny - especially since he's put himself forward as an exemplar of how politics "should be".

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Posted by: Jeff Weimer at December 16, 2008 02:13 PM (1Mn8Z)

82
The success of the banging of the Bush lied drum is due tu the fact that he is a fucking liar.

Posted by: twat at December 16, 2008 02:10 PM (H1t5a)

Cockholster:

“I had no contact with the governor’s office. I did not speak to the governor about these issues. That I know for certain.”  -- Barack Hussein Obama

A lying cocksucker.


Posted by: Tinian at December 16, 2008 02:14 PM (Ohodx)

83

Rahm "Greasy Cocksucker" Emanuel on tape 21 times discussing O's Senate seat with Blago camp

I wrote my post before I saw this one.  As I said, it's a natural.  The RNC and the rest of us should focus on Emanuel.

Poor Obama, being surrounded by such men.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 16, 2008 02:14 PM (T0NGe)

84 To paraphrase Osama Bin Laden - You see a strong horse, you see a weak horse.  People will go for the strong horse.

Right now all I see from Republicans is weak horse stuff.  Oh, democrats, please don't hurt me!  We'll be bipartisan!  Let me come to your cocktail parties, please!

Send the repubs to the glue factory.  I'm sick of them all.

Posted by: jjmurphy at December 16, 2008 02:15 PM (6OPMS)

85

Newt is supposedly a smart guy with some good ideas.  This particular idea was not one of them.

Until and unless  you take some of the shine off this brand new baseball--rub it up a bit with some mud (and goodness gracious, there's a ton of mud in Chicago) you're going to get dopey headlines like the one in today's Los Angeles Times.  "Obama Clears Self and Staff".

 

I would say that on this issue, Newt and McCain have both been taking moron pills.  'Cept McCain doesn't need to take a pill to be a moron--it's just natural for him.

Posted by: Michael J. Myers at December 16, 2008 02:15 PM (LZ3cP)

86

I did not have any contacts regarding the selling of my seat

I had my greasy slimeball cocksucker take care of that

See- Im clean!!!! CHANGE!!!!

Posted by: Pres Elect Bullshit at December 16, 2008 02:17 PM (waaUg)

87 BTW, I don't know if anyone has commented, but Jim Lehrer seems to think that selling a senate seat is not a big deal.

(And V the K thinks having to run embedded links through tinyurl is teh ghey.)

Posted by: V the K at December 16, 2008 02:17 PM (PLvLS)

88 The success of the banging of the Bush lied drum is due tu the fact that he is a fucking liar.

Name one, twat.  And not one that is, in your opinion, a lie, but one provable lie.

I'll wait. 

Posted by: wiserbud at December 16, 2008 02:17 PM (IHbof)

89

There's a subset of the Republican Party that insists on working with Obama, not against him, on advancing "those items in his agenda that conservatives can agree with," on "giving him a chance," on respecting the office and being dignified. These folks believe that when one's back is against the wall, one should either get medieval, or one should turn around, bend over, and put one's face to the wall.

These people call themselves realists. I call them submissives. I'd prefer to get medieval.

Newt and his kind are locked in a symbiotic relationship with the Democrats. It used to be mutual, but as the Democrats see demographics slowly but undeniably turning their way, Newt's type is assuming a more submissive, Wormtongue-like role. Gingrich, Weld, Powell, McCain, all the RINOS--they're appeasers. If they had any conviction, they'd retire in disgust. We should retire them.

A new generation is needed. Ball-cutters. Tough guys. Brawlers. Men and women who aren't afraid to take a punch. Keeping your integrity? It's for the losers. The voters want a winner, not a milquetoast.

I've gone on record here saying that Palin doesn't have a significant future in the party. I'm right; she doesn't, for several reasons. But that's not because she doesn't possess at least some of the qualities that are needed.

McCain said he'd rather lose an election and win a war than the other way around. Whether or not he believed that can be debated. But we need people who'd rather make some people angry and get things done than keep everyone happy and be complicit in piloting the ship of state onto socialist shoals.

I hope Obama fails profoundly. If the nation has to suffer to discredit him and his ideas, it's a pain we should bear manfully and a lesson we should teach ceaselessly--doing so could net us at least a generation of conservative skepticism.

Posted by: railwriter at December 16, 2008 02:19 PM (nwEiU)

90 My ass print in the sofa next to Pelosi's is still warm, guys!

Posted by: Newt Gingrich at December 16, 2008 02:19 PM (EJmQG)

91   -5 Worse economic crisis in 70 years? By what standard of measure? ~ polynikes   ...The standard would be the Bailout rate.   Look, the Dems poisoned the politcal arena at every touch and turn for the last 8 years and never apologized for it so*...TURNABOUT IS FAIR PLAY!    SO, Phuck Obama, Phuck the Dems, and Phuck Newt in the Poot with a Bumbershoot!   *I fully expect them to do the same thing again as soon as there is a new Republican President elected.

Posted by: Speller at December 16, 2008 02:21 PM (gNEV1)

92 #82Yes Obama is a liar just as Bush is,and they both look like chimps,sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.Knobnosher.

Posted by: twat at December 16, 2008 02:21 PM (H1t5a)

93 Going back to 2002-2004, when some folks were advising the Democrat party to become more moderate, I was saying it wouldn't happen because the left was content to lost elections as long as they controlled the party. They knew the pendulum would swing back one day, and they wanted to be in charge when it did. Their plan succeeded brilliantly, and the Democrat Party is more overtly Marxist now than at any time since FDR, and it has power.

Newt and McCain may be comfortable being lapdogs to the majority Democrats, but there's no reason the rest of us have to be. Obama is pushing policies that have always failed in the past and will continue to fail in the future. This is a time for conservatives (although I prefer to label myself a pragmatist), to seize the party so that we will be in charge when the pendulum comes swinging back.

Posted by: V the K at December 16, 2008 02:24 PM (PLvLS)

94 I agree with most of what he says, but I can't see how an ad pointing out the problems with Obama's lack of answers and attempts to avoid dealing with this is in any way in contradiction to or opposition to the other ideas he brings up.

We're in the worst economy in ... well, about 30 years, since the first Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 16, 2008 02:24 PM (PQY7w)

95 The GOP needs to be doing reconnaissance.  Watch how the proto-administration handles the situation as it is, look for the weaknesses in their response.

Bullshit. We already know where the weaknesses are; Bambi stutters and stumbles while under any sort of pressure. The RNC needs to squeeze him like a fucking lemon.

Anna Anka for RNC Chair!!


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 16, 2008 02:25 PM (InMdt)

96 Yep, we should be listening to these architects of the Republican comeback in the last election like McCain and Newt.

Posted by: huerfano at December 16, 2008 02:25 PM (knHvu)

97 Twat, the question to you was to name a Bush lie.  See, I can name an Obama lie already and he isn't even POTUS yet.  So put up or shut up. 

Posted by: Judd at December 16, 2008 02:29 PM (Vu/kE)

98 #88  He stated that God spoke to him,but that could be reccurring cocaine psychosis.

Posted by: twat at December 16, 2008 02:29 PM (H1t5a)

99 Good for Newt. At least some Republicans see the error of mimicking the worst aspects of our opponents.

Posted by: Ben at December 16, 2008 02:31 PM (ZjjnQ)

100 One of the many things that sunk McCain was his inability to ever hit Obama, or let Palin really sink her teeth in. He sat back, expecting to win points, but was just painted as a big meanie anyway.

The media is going to paint the GOP as douches either way, so we might as well get our points across.

Posted by: G-dawg at December 16, 2008 02:31 PM (mzfP0)

101

"If warrantless wiretaps comes up for a vote- I will vote against it"

Posted by: Pres Elect Bullshit at December 16, 2008 02:31 PM (waaUg)

102 I will have our troopssssss out of Iraq within 16 months"

Posted by: Pres Elect Bullshit at December 16, 2008 02:32 PM (waaUg)

103 "I will accept only public financing of my campaign. Its the right thing to do"

Posted by: Pres Elect Bullshit at December 16, 2008 02:32 PM (waaUg)

104

Wow, Twat, that's the best you can come up with.  So can we blame O's lie on his cocaine use as well? I thought I some some sniffing in the presser, or is he more of a pipe smoker, you know, for the street cred and all.

 This is going to be a fun 4 years.

Posted by: Judd at December 16, 2008 02:32 PM (Vu/kE)

105 "Can't we just all get along?"

Posted by: katya at December 16, 2008 02:34 PM (oRJZj)

106 Newt is right. If Republicans ever hope to win admiration and dinner party invites from journalists and elites and DC insiders and liberals (four very distinct and separate groups!) they have to give up outdated notions such as right and wrong. This ad simply is not helpful in that regard. Why fight if it upsets someone?

McCain did so well with pander-worthy grievance groups precisely because he said things they say they like to hear and won their favor. The RNC must use this playbook, but ditch the unhelpful Sarah Palin, who does not have fancy clothes of her own.

If the RNC adopts this approach, I predict a number of favorable mentions of Republicans in the media next year!

Posted by: t-bird at December 16, 2008 02:34 PM (FcR7P)

107

reconnaisance...watch...look

and do nothing. We don't need to "do recon" after over a year of Chicago Jesus chattering nonstop about his plans. We know everything we need to know. Now we need to do.

As long as the RNC approaches every day as if it's the first day of the GOP loss, we're fucked. The party keeps trying to recraft the message delivery. The message is fine; it just needs to be delivered, period.

Sen. Jim Webb is already tired of my emails; I no longer get polite responses in the Mac inbox thanking me for telling him I'm going to support, with ducats and action, every chance there is to oppose him and his party electorally. Assault weapons ban, bailouts, the works.

 

Posted by: railwriter at December 16, 2008 02:36 PM (nwEiU)

108 Good for Newt. At least some Republicans see the error of mimicking the worst aspects of our opponents.

Yeah Ben, McCain did a good job of playing from the Emily Post/Amy Vanderbilt book of manners on how to conduct a polite campaign.  That worked out well.  Do you recommend that we dress Powell, Newt, McCain, Kondracke and the rest of the RINO squishes in school-girl outfits and serve fucking milk and cookies for the next four years and let that be the face of the Republican party?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 16, 2008 02:38 PM (ougKX)

109 Crap!  Beat me to it #66.

Posted by: katya at December 16, 2008 02:38 PM (oRJZj)

110

Worse economic crisis in 70 years? By what standard of measure? ~ polynikes   ...The standard would be the Bailout rate.

You mean bailout like the S&L bailout or the Chrysler bailout? So far the bailouts have been limited to the financial sector, which in my opinion was the correct stratgey though the implementation was highly flawed.  I disagree strongly with any government bailout to the non financial sector.  Those loans should be made by the financial institutions who were bailed out just for that purpose.

 

Posted by: polynikes at December 16, 2008 02:39 PM (m2CN7)

111

Newt is acting like a pussy wimp? WTF?

That tears it. Some nefarious organization is obviously replacing prominent Republicans with clones, pod people, or plastic surgery-modified doubles. We need to place remaining conservative spokespeople under 24-hour protective custody immediately.

I volunteer to cover Sarah Palin, Laura Ingraham, or Megyn Kelly.

Posted by: Jim62sch at December 16, 2008 02:39 PM (zYagu)

112

cooperate with what? The socialization of America?

George Bush did not get one day of peace in office. The attacks started as soon as the poles closed and continue to this day.

I say no peace, no 100 days, no cooperation.

You don't get to call the President of the United States a traitor and then say the other side is behaving badly.

The hell with cooperation. We already had one Jimmy Carter administration. There is no need to wait for what we all know is coming.

Posted by: pete at December 16, 2008 02:43 PM (k6/lA)

113 Twat, the question to you was to name a Bush lie.

I can name a few:

- "Islam is a religion of peace."

- "We are going to protect the border." (November, 2005)

- "Harriet Miers' talent, experience and judicial philosophy make her a superb choice to safeguard the constitutional liberties and equality of all Americans."

- "Every year since I took office, we have reduced the growth of discretionary spending."

- “The United States will make no concessions to terrorist demands and strike no deals with them. We make no distinction between terrorists and those who knowingly harbor or provide aid to them.” (except for Hamas and Hezbullah).

Posted by: V the K at December 16, 2008 02:45 PM (PLvLS)

114

Heh

Harriet Myers

That one still cracks me up

Posted by: Pres Elect Bullshit at December 16, 2008 02:47 PM (waaUg)

115

You mean bailout like the S&L bailout($160B) or the Chrysler bailout($1.5B)?~polynikes

No, polynikes, I don't think the number 160 or 1.5 is like 700 or 1000 or 3000.

Posted by: Speller at December 16, 2008 02:47 PM (Uagor)

116 Nice, V the K, but the question was: can the fanny bandit name any?  Should be able to now.  Thank you so very much.

Posted by: WonderWartHog at December 16, 2008 02:49 PM (LVT6e)

117

I say hit Obama early and often. He's corrupt. We all know it, let's expose him.

I don't view him as legitimate because the media covered up horrifically for him.

We need to build confidence and momentum. We got libs foisting their tax and spend solutions in an economy that can't take it.

Posted by: Iblis at December 16, 2008 02:49 PM (9221z)

118

Many established figures in the GOP--like Ginrich, like McCain, like Powell--seem to think politics is a gentleman's game and the outcome some kind of chessboard abstraction. Obama knows better. His people know better. I sure as hell know better. In part because McCain played nice and pulled his punches, we're getting a fucking Chicago machine politician with socialist leanings and ideas assuming the office of the Presidency in a few weeks, a man surrounded by cronies who make Harding's Ohio Gang look like a Boy Scout troop by comparison, with euro-style policies and proposals coming our way that can only fail, and are certain to make worse the lives of millions of Americans, and all of us more vulnerable to attack from our enemies.

No more nice--and no more compromises for the sake of a mythical center. I say stand for what's right--morally and politically--and let the center come to us. I don't advocate a RINO purge simply because such a purge doesn't take into account the realities of GOP candidates living in the blue, or recognize that sometimes moderation and compromise are the answers to difficult problems. I do think, however, that we can fight the Lightworker on every move he makes without any danger to the Republic. Dissent is patriotic, or so I've been told.

Posted by: troyriser at December 16, 2008 02:53 PM (NfkMy)

119

On this day in the year 1773 the Boston Tea Party was held.  Sam Adams, a noted beer maker, did not call for moderation and play nice.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2008 02:54 PM (q8aAJ)

120 Newt Gingrich, The Man Who Divorced His Cancer Stricken Wife On Her Hospital Bed.

Because Integrity Matters.

If you're John Edwards without the Grecian Formula...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at December 16, 2008 02:55 PM (ScoG3)

121

Education time boys, girls, and whatever some of you morons are when the lights go out.  Now remember, I am a lifelong DEMOCRAT and I have a moral authority card so I must be right.

Forget all that rino and dino bullshit, it comes down to this: CONSERVATIVES and LIBERALS

Rush is teh MAN because he knows this and as per teh MAN, people will vote in droves for conserative values such as pro-gun, pro-military, less taxes, less government, pro-family, pro-free market.

Newt isn't a conservative, he sold out for a possible run in 2012 so fuck him.  In 2012, there are only two choices, Palin and Jindal.  To see just how strong a candidate is, just look at how much the media hates them.

Now is the time to start on the attack because the 2010 house/senate races will start soon.  Let everyone know what is up and who the cockholster are.  Name fucking names and parties.  Get rid of the trash and if a guy with an R has to go, get rid of him.  Start fresh and take this country back.  Learn from the opposition, use all means to fuck over the liberals, courts, media, blogs, people need to be educated and need to know whats going on and the conservatives will take this country back.  Palin/Jindal 2012 damnit!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at December 16, 2008 02:56 PM (xz/YV)

122

So explain the rationale behind pushing this, other than you hate that Obama won and you want to see him suffer.

Okay, Obama is a congenital liar and I don't want to see my country suffer.  If the media won't even take the most basic steps to hold him to account, someone has to, don't they?

I am not a big fan of Rush, but he's nailed these guys... they are "Washingtonians" first, not reformers, and certainly not conservatives!

Posted by: sherlock at December 16, 2008 02:57 PM (fKPuo)

123

I fault the fucking zipperheads at FNC for keeping him and that fucking retard Sharpton in the public eye for way too long. He needs to fade away and write another 10 books or so on the Civil War.

 

Posted by: Mr. Pissed at December 16, 2008 02:58 PM (KZKfb)

124 Bush and cohorts weaved  a blatant yet intricate web of deceit ,from knowledge of weapons of mass destruction to Halliburton contracts then passed it off as bad intelligence, and bolstered their self approval through small victories which the right pick up on and yell and smirk themselves into an empty feeling of superiority.The capture and subsequent trial and death of Saddam was a great thing,but if Bush just wanted to kill the fucker why did he not just say'I want to kill that fucker'.Those WOMD never did show up and only kids and nutcases can get away with saying'somebody told us they were there' or 'god told me to do it'.

Posted by: twat at December 16, 2008 02:58 PM (H1t5a)

125 Now is the time to start on the attack because the 2010 house/senate races will start soon.

The 2010 races are absolutely critical to the GOP because of redistricting. The GOP has to control as many state legislatures as possible, or the Democrats will gerrymander their way into even more house seats.

Posted by: V the K at December 16, 2008 02:59 PM (PLvLS)

126 He stated that God spoke to him, blah blah blah bullshit koskid wet dream bullshit childish nyah nyah nyah..."

Bzzzt.  Sorry, but that doesn't qualify as a "lie."

Gee, it's much harder to come up with actual proof of your assertation than you thought, huh twat?

Don't worry.  Better scumbags than you have been asked that very same question and I have yet to see an actual, factual response.  Gee, it's almost like, as much as you wish to propound a high-minded abhorrence to lying, it is all you really have to work with to "support" your position.




Posted by: wiserbud at December 16, 2008 02:59 PM (wWwJR)

127 Nice, V the K, but the question was: can the fanny bandit name any?  Should be able to now.

See, even with my help, the turd-burglar still couldn't come up with any.

Posted by: V the K at December 16, 2008 03:00 PM (PLvLS)

128

twat and V the K at least seem to have the same definition of 'lie'. 

Posted by: polynikes at December 16, 2008 03:01 PM (m2CN7)

129

You know what?  I'm thinking of becoming a Democrat.  Why you ask?  I'll tell you why, because I don't want to be associated with the sniveling bunch of pussies many top Republicans have turned into since the election.  When Bush won did you see the Democrats start playing nice and working to become the "party of ideas".  Fuck no.  You saw the Democrat higher ups whip the base into an 8 year hissy fit that only slackened for about 6 months after 9/11.  Guess what Newt you fucking retard.  It fucking worked, ok.  The public got tired of hearing the incessant fucking whining from the press and Democrats and threw up their hands and decided to throw the Republicans out because, well with all that whining and accusations of corruption it must be true right?  No it didn't help that Bush couldn't communicate fire in a crowded theater but the Democrats negativity and false spin about so many issues is definately what put them over the top.  Lies about Katrina, WMD intellegence, Plame and Fannie/Freddie the cynical culture of corruption meme created out of much thinner gruel than the Democrats own corruption.  These are the lies and bullshit the Democrats used to snow the public.  What ideas did they sell to the public?  In 2006 it was "we're not Republicans" and in 2008 it was "hope and change". 

I was saddened to learn that at a time of national trial, when a president-elect is preparing to take office in the midst of the worst financial crisis in over seventy years, that the Republican National Committee is engaged in the sort of negative, attack politics that the voters rejected in the 2006 and 2008 election cycles.

Hey Newt, heres a fucking clue.  The Dems were the ones who engaged in negative attack politics for the last eight years and guess what?  They fucking won in 2006 and 2008.  Unless you consider the "culture of corruption" and "Everyone who opposes Obama is a racist" elections high minded I think you have taken the exact wrong lesson from the last two elections.  Certainly the Republicans have to do their attacking themselves not having the lickspittles in the MSM available to do their dirtywork so it appears the Republicans are being more negative but the fact is that volume of accusations whether true or not can build up over time to the point where the public will just switch to the other guy.  The alternative conservative media will carry some of that load (you could help you fucking asshole but apparently you've got other plans oh and don't think I forgot about the Pelosi commercial either.  What the hell happened to you anyway?) but, unfortunately, actual Republicans will have to lead the charge in order to get sufficient coverage from the media.  Last but not least this plea for white glove treatment of Democrats comes at a very good time considering they've been running around accusing Republicans of being unpatriotic for not supporting the auto bailout. 

So Newt, why don't you do the world a favor and sit back, relax and have a nice tall glass of go fuck yourself.

 

Posted by: Big E at December 16, 2008 03:01 PM (CBGRs)

130 Twat, right on cue.  At least the left is still as predictable as ever, and that is a good thing,  I think I have seen that same answer 100+ times on the interwebs in the last few years, and I and everbody else hear knew that answer was coming.  I have to laugh.

Posted by: Judd at December 16, 2008 03:03 PM (Vu/kE)

131 My definition of a Bush Lie is "Something Bush said that was demonstrably untrue and that he knew to be untrue." What's your definition, Polly?

Posted by: V the K at December 16, 2008 03:04 PM (PLvLS)

132 Bush and cohorts weaved  a blatant yet intricate web of deceit ,from knowledge of weapons of mass destruction to Halliburton contracts then passed it off as bad intelligence,

Bzzzzt!  Wrong again, stupid.  The entire world thought Saddam had WMD, even, as it turns out, Saddam.  And you can't call faulty intelligence "a lie."  Nice try, though.

As for the tired old Haliburton claim, when do you think Haliburton was granted their contracts, twat?  Now, think really, really hard on this one, becuase I'm sure none of your idiot friends at Kos have ever actually researched this for you so you could regurigtate it here.

Ya know what?  Never mind.  I'm not going to rehash the same old shit with you that has been beaten to death and proven false a million times before.  You are a fucking idiot who, through the incredible power of his own words, has proven your self unworthy of any more of my time.

And you say you voted for McCain?  Who's the liar now, you well-named fool?

Posted by: wiserbud at December 16, 2008 03:06 PM (IHbof)

133

FWIW, the WSJ(think it was them, not sure) says there will be close to 6 very vulnerable Dem Senate seats in 2010

Boo-yah

Posted by: TMF at December 16, 2008 03:09 PM (waaUg)

134

Just curious why anyone would get into a "discussion" with someone who chooses to call itself: "twat."

I know, cause we're morons, and the hobos are mostly hibernating for the winter, and there's only so much midget Thai tranny pron anyone can watch in a day....

Posted by: notropis at December 16, 2008 03:11 PM (1ucvq)

135 BTW, may I ask Newt, why should we want Obama to succeed, anyway? Do we want to live under socialism? Do we want to get our health care from a DMV type government bureaucracy? Do we want the 2nd Amendment to become as irrelevant as the 18th? Do we want our social values set by Nancy Pelosi and Barney Frank?

I would tend to think not. 

Posted by: V the K at December 16, 2008 03:13 PM (PLvLS)

136

boy, is my id appropriate or what?  impeach bush!

Posted by: twat at December 16, 2008 03:15 PM (f7A+e)

137 Just curious why anyone would get into a "discussion" with someone who chooses to call itself: "twat."

A fine question.

Besides, if you ignore him, like I did all Sunday night, you can practically hear his tiny, little feet stamp.  Like I said earlier, "very needy."  He also becomes what you accuse him of being, which makes me wonder if he's a socky.

Posted by: WonderWartHog at December 16, 2008 03:17 PM (LVT6e)

138 This twat creature is intriguing. I would like to subscribe to it's newsletter.

I'm sorry , what I meant to say was , go the fuck away . Fuckin' 13 yr. old cumguzzler.

Posted by: aubrey at December 16, 2008 03:22 PM (1YVnX)

139 Damn, take a short nap and here is a new post with over 100 comments.

IMHO Newt became a non-person when he failed to deliver as house majority leader in 1994.

Posted by: John Galt at December 16, 2008 03:22 PM (Ylv1H)

140

 impeach bush!

You need a new slogan.

Posted by: katya at December 16, 2008 03:30 PM (oRJZj)

141 Justice first, then attack.

Posted by: Vercingetorix at December 16, 2008 03:31 PM (iTDJo)

142 I'm usually a big fan of Thinking Newt. Pandering, flip-flopping Newt, on the other hand, is the Washingtonian I can do without.

Suffice it to say, I'll just second Big E (16, 2008 03:01 PM). If Newt's setting himself up as the New McCain for 2012, then he's about to blaze the exact same path as McMaverick. Between Palin, Jindal, and any number of new Republicans (even Romney now) yet to appear on the radar, Gingrich will be handed his ass.

But keep going for those committed moderates, Newt. They're sure to be receptive to you... assuming they even know how to vote, know who you are, or how to think critically after listening to domestic Pravda for the next four years.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 16, 2008 03:35 PM (sI5Ho)

143 Thankyou people,I am humbled into submission and am off to church,Farthog is still a cunt though.

Posted by: twat at December 16, 2008 03:36 PM (H1t5a)

144 why should we want Obama to succeed, anyway? Do we want to live under socialism? Do we want to get our health care from a DMV type government bureaucracy? Do we want the 2nd Amendment to become as irrelevant as the 18th? Do we want our social values set by Nancy Pelosi and Barney Frank?

That's exactly what I've been saying. When some earnest, mealy-mouthed lib asked me at my blog: "Don't you want Obama to be successful?" I said, "NOOOOO! I want him to fail miserably. I love my country too much for him to be successful in what he wants to do to it."

Gad, even Hannity is saying he hopes Obama is successful. What on earth is he thinking?

Posted by: Nice Deb at December 16, 2008 03:36 PM (TvKLW)

145 Newt's also drunk the global warming koolaid...he's dead to me.

Posted by: Nice Deb at December 16, 2008 03:38 PM (TvKLW)

146

Thankyou people,I am humbled into submission and am off to church

Something you want to get off your chest about church-goers?

Posted by: katya at December 16, 2008 03:39 PM (oRJZj)

147 I rest my case.

Posted by: WonderWartHog at December 16, 2008 03:39 PM (LVT6e)

148 Does Farthog have a job the fuckers constantly on his computer,what a cunt.I rest my case.Definitely off to church now.

Posted by: twat at December 16, 2008 03:44 PM (H1t5a)

149

<sigh>

I'm returning to my gulch now.

Posted by: Francase at December 16, 2008 03:44 PM (nrLPb)

150 The biggest hands down case of illegal political corruption and Newt wants to just...drop it.

Is this what it's come to Newt, just turn our heads and let criminals go by the wayside!!!!!

Screw you Newt, your statement is just one more example of how we don't have responsible representation in Washington, it's not up to "you" to let this slide, it's up to those of us left who are law abiding people to make sure that people who break the law are held responsible.......regardless of what brownie points you feel you may get for letting it go.

Screw you!

Posted by: Drider at December 16, 2008 03:47 PM (lwt+p)

151 #146  please do not get me wrong,my religion is a great comfort to me.

Posted by: twat at December 16, 2008 03:48 PM (H1t5a)

152

Newt took a few paragraphs to say what could've been said in one sentence, but he's fundamentally right.

The GOP lost the center because (a) we spent like drunken sailors while simultaneously (b) getting known for being "against this" and "against that," and not for "here's how to solve this urgent pressing problem."

(a) is not necessarily fatal by itself. But when combined with (b), defeat becomes inevitable.

We let talk radio hosts--who have absolutely no responsibility to anyone except their advertisers, and that responsibility consists solely of generating ratings, not of being anything resembling leaders or statesmen--take the wheel on policy, and they helped drive us into the ditch.

The funniest part is that many of the knuckleheads who call me a "RINO" brag about having voted for the Keyester this past November. (Consider ye this: if ANYBODY other than Alan Keyes had run against Obama in 2004, they would've made it enough of a race that Obama wouldn't have been a viable candidate for President.)

I am a Donald Bellisario Republican--national security comes first, last, and always, and the talk radio rabble rousers and their mouth-breathing listeners are hereby asked to please leave the driving to the freakin' grown-ups. G'day.

Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at December 16, 2008 03:50 PM (pyeze)

153 Newt took a few paragraphs to say what could've been said in one sentence.

And yet you took 6 paragraphs.

Posted by: WonderWartHog at December 16, 2008 03:53 PM (LVT6e)

154 I'd like to believe that somewhere in Washington, in hallways and back rooms, Republicans are actually, you know, doing stuff, but I really have to wonder. I mean, come on. Anything. Just stand up and say, "I am a Republican, and I oppose the Democrats." It's kind of like the "moderate" muslims and terrorism. I want my Republicans to make a vigorous statement condemning leftism, without there being a "but" or an "except for" after it.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at December 16, 2008 03:54 PM (z4es9)

155 The GOP lost the center because (a) we spent like drunken sailors while simultaneously (b) getting known for being "against this" and "against that," and not for "here's how to solve this urgent pressing problem."

I'll buy (a) but it's not the reason that the Republicans lost. The Republicans lost because Bush let the media get the better of him, and because the economy went into the toilet. The thriftiest Republicans in the world couldn't have won this election.

(Don't get me wrong, I think the spending is scandalous and needs to stop. But I don't believe it's why we lost.)

Posted by: Farmer Joe at December 16, 2008 03:57 PM (z4es9)

156

Newt jumped the shark when he made propaganda with Nancy on a couch.

Farwell Newt.

Posted by: gdonovan at December 16, 2008 04:01 PM (yCt/3)

157 F Newt and all his backsteppin' ways...period.

Posted by: billygoat at December 16, 2008 04:04 PM (WQqt3)

158

And Newt, as I've told Smoke and a couple of others on this blog, "no, we will not drop it".  If something is wrong, crooked, lied about, covered up, stolen, omitted, etc, then it needs to be brought to light.  Just because it is unpopular, doesn't mean it shouldn't be talked about. 

Viva la Revolution!

Posted by: katya at December 16, 2008 04:10 PM (oRJZj)

159

I had to Google Donald Bellisario to figure out who he was. Yes, a fucking Hollywood liberal so yes we have another concern troll here.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2008 04:11 PM (q8aAJ)

160 Newt shit in his pants,it's over.

Posted by: sugarmonkey at December 16, 2008 04:11 PM (H1t5a)

161

I had to Google Donald Bellisario to figure out who he was. Yes, a fucking Hollywood liberal so yes we have another concern troll here.

He's hawkish on defense & foreign affairs. You're right, that makes him a typical "Hollywood liberal."

Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at December 16, 2008 04:30 PM (pyeze)

162 Newt's credibility has been shunted to ground since the Nancy Pelosi couch bit.

Rush is right to distinguish between Washingtonians and Republicans. If you ask "who destroyed the Republican brand?" there are a few local examples like Engler in Michigan, or Taft in Ohio, but most are Washingtonians.

Power corrupts and guys like Newt saying stuff like this guarantee that Republicans will have to worry about either power or its concommitant corruption

Posted by: Steve Poling at December 16, 2008 04:30 PM (hnq5i)

163

hey twat, you're a fucking twat - which in AOS land is in actuality a,,,,,,,,,

wait for it,,,,,,,,,,,,

Cockholster!

you cockholster

Posted by: Merkin at December 16, 2008 04:39 PM (mgp7a)

164

Fark you and Newt!  I'm going all nutroots and LOVING it!

 

I've been sending these liberal assholes at work all kinds of snark and laughing my ass off!  Best Christmas ever.  I can't wait to tell them Rahm had 22 calls with Blago!

Pain is not qualified - Caroline Kennedy  born for the job!

I know crack whores more qualified than Kennedy and her uncle! (actually her father too but I'll let that go).

Obama?  honest?  Fehhh!

We're infested with dirtbags.  Now is not the time to go easy, now is the time to get in the dirt and fight!

 

 

Posted by: lonetown at December 16, 2008 04:53 PM (6q//N)

165

Newt is merely demonstrating the political sophistication which I've never doubted he possesses although he goes off the rails sometimes. Political sophistication is a quality which eludes most partisan conservatives, that's why you have a bunch of postings here from conservatives excoriating someone who has for years has been their idol. Newt can see that at a time when Obama is enjoying 75% approval ratings and almost universal applause for both the competence of his transition process and the quality of the picks for his administration, this is not the moment to start attempting to smear him with a scandal that has little or nothing to do with him.Now some are going to challenge this but when the public record has Blagovitch dissing Obama for non cooperation, and Fitzgerald the prosecutor says this case has nothing whatsoever to do with Obama, trying to link Obama to this doesn't seem like a very profitable line of attack.

Now you'd think you don't have to be a political professional like Gingrich, or McCain for that matter who has taken much the same line, to look at all these facts and come to the conclusion that this whole approach is likely to do more harm to the Republican party than to Obama and the democrats. The country is facing the worst economic crisis since the great depression and is involved in two wars overseas, and is just not in the mood for this kind of extreme partisanship. Grow up guys this is shooting ourselves in the foot. Newt gets it even if you don't.      

Posted by: John at December 16, 2008 05:00 PM (1YXTb)

166 "Newt is merely demonstrating the political sophistication which I've never doubted he possesses although he goes off the rails sometimes."

-

Newt is demonstrating the same political sophistication that allowed him to piss away an unprecedented majority in the 90s, alienate his own supporters, trade integrity for a few cheap extra-marital affairs while jeopardizing the entire conservative movement, all while accomplishing nothing in the process to advance any conservative agenda during his 4 years in power.

This made him more amenable to the left but somewhat less popular on the right.

Posted by: AD at December 16, 2008 05:10 PM (2xPVG)

167 Hey Merkin, it's also a cunt not unlike that rancid gash between your mothers legs that you were spewed from.you fucking shit dribbler.

Posted by: twat at December 16, 2008 05:11 PM (H1t5a)

168

The country is facing the worst economic crisis since the great depression and is involved in two wars overseas, and is just not in the mood for this kind of extreme partisanship.

And you sir, sound like a concern troll.

Posted by: billygoat at December 16, 2008 05:11 PM (WQqt3)

169

hey twat

you're a vile little cockholster aren't you?

funny how little it takes to get you to show your true colors

stay classy you pitiful little pusilanimous example of an oxygen thief type cockholster

Posted by: Merkin at December 16, 2008 05:27 PM (mgp7a)

170 Hey Merkin,Likewise,you trembling little mound of fanny batter.

Posted by: shoop at December 16, 2008 05:37 PM (H1t5a)

171 Newt is a fool. Twat is an even bigger fool and most likely a child whose mommy isn't policing his internet access.

I say "FRY THE BASTARDS AT EVERY TURN." Show Obummer the same respect that the left has shown President Bush for the past eight years.

Posted by: RFA at December 16, 2008 05:59 PM (SI1K/)

172 "...and yet suddenly everyone has to play nice?..."

LOL. We've been "playing nice" since the word came out about Wright.

Posted by: JS at December 16, 2008 06:02 PM (BZGu1)

173 But RFA,you don't know the real me,we could have had something together,now it's all ruined,ruined.

Posted by: twat at December 16, 2008 06:09 PM (H1t5a)

174 He stated that God spoke to him

And you know that isn't true?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 16, 2008 06:09 PM (PQY7w)

175 #174 To be I don't know that it is not true,I will ask the fairies at the bottom of the garden as soon as the moon is high.

Posted by: twat at December 16, 2008 06:14 PM (H1t5a)

176 Even Rod Blagojevich would blush at the amount of profanity and homoerotic sexual innuendo used in these comments.

Foul-mouthed, small town Republicans will never have the class DC politicians bring to their work. They're just as venal as Blagojevich, but no class.

Posted by: MBS at December 16, 2008 06:38 PM (6A1Xk)

177 And I'm not just saying that because I enjoy being violated by your huge warm schlongs...

The fact of the matter is I'm a bisexual hermaphrodite and have yearned for a love you can never provide.

Posted by: MBS at December 16, 2008 06:51 PM (2xPVG)

178

6 Fuck Newt.  He's been one of "them" for years now.  He let the press & the dems grind him down into the pussy he is today.

Yeah that's true and he should shut up.  But let's remember that the press dragged him through Dantes Inferno.  He paid a very high price for trying to change this country for the better including financial troubles and a divorce.  Talk about the politics of personal destruction, yikes!

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at December 16, 2008 07:05 PM (ngLyu)

179 I don't like McCain. Fuck him.
I like Newt. Fuck him too.

Since when is basic fact-finding about serious criminal misconduct too politicized? We are already treated like second class citizens by the MSM. Why should we make that even easier for them? Fuck that.

This didn't cost nuthin and not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee. Fuck that.

Posted by: nutmegory at December 16, 2008 08:06 PM (D1qhi)

180

I used to really admire Newt from the time he was denouncing the Dems in the special orders. I believed in the Contract with America. I had one professor who had been in graduate school with him, and had been appalled at his treatment of his first wife. Not long after his election, began to screw up, backtrack, gave Clinton the'whine' excuse that let him get away with the government shutdown, which deepsixed the '96 campaign like the meltdown did to the 2008 one. Not long after this, we find he pulled the same trick 'dating' his secretary while denouncing Clinton. It was that first congressional loss in '96, that led to big Government Republicanism as a stop gap solution, that let Franklin Raines declare the big 'Enron style surplus., which blocked tax cuts as an idea until W reintroduced them in 2000. He signed on to PNAC and I believe he was even on the Defense Policy Board, yet when it got tough in Iraq. he turned and ran to among other places, Vanity Fair. Solid instinct there, he signed on with Pelosi on AGW propaganda. He happened to get the drill here, drill now slogan, but it's no doubt who's the better spokesman. He defended Sarah during the campaign, but gently pushed her aside afterwards..

Now it's curious how the only candidate who was able to prevail  in practically when the GOP  screws up royally is guess who, (hint it's not Newt,) from city council in '92 to Mayor in '96, reelected in 1999, in fact the only race she actually lost was in the Republican boom year of 2002. and look what a prize we got there, with Murkowski, who proceeded to nearly burn the party's reputation down for a generation, from the state jet to appointing his own daughter to the Senate, to the "Bridge to Nowhere" She's forced out as many of her own blockheads in the party as the democrats, yet the party abandoned her, forcing her to give up the oil commission job. Yet the party faithful and alot of other sensible folks got her elected governor. She pushed through the pipeline. finally buried 'the Bridge to Nowhere" that's how Adam Bricklry came to no her, and through him Beldar (Bill Dyer) So it really wasn't a surprise when she was picked, That they through all this garbage, and still prevailed, shows how much of a threat she must still be. Now she's said,that the Governors should cooperate with Obama, when the issues are right (energy, ethics)but not when they are miles apart (taxes, the auto bailout, surrender to the enemy.

 

Posted by: narciso at December 16, 2008 08:26 PM (8nB5X)

181 The problem with these RINOs is they are behaving as if this is a game of golf and you act like a gentleman.  This is POLITICS you stupids fuckers.  Get a clue and grow a pair.

And yes, I want to see Obama suffer.  He is a lying douchebag.

Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at December 16, 2008 08:28 PM (PBGAP)

182 Newt it totally right you numbnuts.  Here you've got a tasty scandal playing itself out, likely taking down Obama's chief of staff before he even takes office, why does the RNC need to get involved?  Just keep a low profile let things play out without ginning up partison passions, and let the facts out without emotions clouding them.   There will be plenty of time to plaster Blogo all over the Democrats later.

You need to read between the lines, Newt isn't saying not to try to make hay over the scandal, he is saying don't do it now.

Well either that or he's trying to get a show on MSNBC.

Posted by: Kazinski at December 16, 2008 08:38 PM (HPhbp)

183 Let's get this right, literally and figuratively:
1. Newt started out worth a rat's ass, but only as a back-bencher. When he moved to the leadership position his head and his ass swapped places. They remain juxtaposed to this day. Legislators routinely wheel and deal to get things done in any large, political body, be it a legislature or a corporate board. That leads to ...
2. When  you go out to do something right, you must have absolute grounds for doing things and NOT DOING THINGS. Newt lost his way and took the bastardized view given him by his enemy(the left). The self-same (are now the) enemy of the American people and this country in general. This quid pro quo laissez-faire way of operating got him booted from his seat, the Speakership and public favor. Not favor with the left, as that is like being appreciated by child molesters. Let the leftists, KOSkids, et al go screw themselves. Let those retards fawn over Fran Obnoxiousness Personified Drescher or Cuntolyn Kennedy. Empty suits for empty minds, I say.
Cockholsters, one and all.
3. Newt gave up on what made him unpopular amongst the Beltway elitist cognoscenti which would be Georgia conservatism, and adopted Beltway conservatism. Poor choice, as it allowed him to sign off on those bloated budgets, buying into the whole AGW scam, and a scam it is, and adopting a large share of the utter tripe that Frau Blucher Pelosi believes in. Newt today would get a serious talking down to and maybe an ass whooping by Newt in 1993 or early 94.
4. The reason we lose election is that we compromise by giving in to the leftists, as they feel is their due, and they stand form the next time, and gutlessness on our side occurs again. It's easy to go statist, hard to stay upright and true to your values and your core. Overspending is a big-ass failure to curb gubmint and stay true to our core values. People notice that shit.
5.Newt's core is hollow now, maybe some decent ideas but they're wrapped up in bullshit spun out by Frau Blucher and Comrade Reid. His ass is forever attached to Frau Blucher's AGW couch in a shitbag commercial pimping a known lie and political scam. He is not even good for a meaningless figurehead
of some sort, since like Tom DeLay, he reeks of compromise where it means adopting your enemy's way.
Newt has gone DC native.
Piss on him and everyone like him.

Posted by: enter sandman at December 16, 2008 08:50 PM (zxaA2)

Posted by: steven at December 16, 2008 09:08 PM (iaSdS)

185 Piss on McVain, Grahamnesty, and any other RINO milquetoast who thinks adopting the ways of your enemy will bring you a similar level of success. Being popular amongst such human scum is akin to being popular with wife beaters, or child molesters. Why would anyone in their right mind want to be appreciated by people who hate their own country and auger for its failure?

What the hell happened to Newt indeed? I suspect that the air of DC poisons good people over time, so that when you are in the minority it is easy to stay true, as you are always the underdog, when you get the top slot you have alot more chance to actually get things done, and in a city like DC, much like Rome, getting something done counts, even if that thing is wrong.
Plainly, other than the Contract, and its limited success like a balanced budget (no thanks to Bill the red-nosed predator on that either), Newt's chance to do something right wound up being just another chance to get something done,
period.
Newt had a chance to do well and he failed utterly. He failed the whole damned country, too. People remember that stuff. He can't  have more chances to do that again. A run for President will surely reveal to this knucklehead that his political capital is nil. His coffers are empty and so is his core, empty.

He is a failure: his divorce, his loss of the Speakership, his part in McDole's woeful sodomizing of the party in 96, they all add up to a man desparately trying to be relevant, and failing miserably to do so.
Sadly, failing miserably when it counts is his only legacy.
Newt, sit down somwhere comfortable, put up your feet and pour yourself a big glass of STFU and GTFA.
And yes, those acronyms do mean exactly what you think they mean.

Posted by: enter sandman at December 16, 2008 09:11 PM (zxaA2)

186 Newt, just another repub pussy as far as i'm concerned. Ever since he sat on the couch with that Bitch Pelosi , and bought into the global warming crap. Him and all the rino's can kiss my fuzzy ass!

Posted by: marine43 at December 16, 2008 09:58 PM (a3W5e)

187 Hey anon at 24. We have to start fightin!  Gees ! What fuckin planet are some of you from? These liberals would have our guts all over the floor, if the shoe was on the other foot!!!!!!! TIME FOR A THIRD PARTY!

Posted by: marine43 at December 16, 2008 10:02 PM (a3W5e)

188 What do you have against becoming netroots? I'm all for it. Fuck Obahitleriburton for stealing the election. No, seriously. Let's pull the party as far right as possible. Maybe then we'll have something vaguely close to a position on something and dump the testicularly challenged rinos. So what if that will put us in a minority? 20 Senators and a filibuster would do a hell of a lot more than 59 spineless compromising slugs.

Posted by: Eli at December 16, 2008 10:51 PM (Qodbn)

189 Newt has been a slimy fucker from the giddyup. Somebody put that fucking douche on an ice floe. I've never bought off on his arrogant bullshit. I can't believe that a person who has pulled the kind of shit that he has in his personal life is even allowed to associate with the reps. Why are we stuck with these fucktards that make us look bad?

These losers just don't have any heart at all, I'm ashamed for them.

Posted by: carl hungus at December 16, 2008 10:59 PM (U3CHY)

190 I wake up, rub the sleep from my eyes, go outside my cave to take a piss, and ai carumba! there is this sheiss sturm raining down on my world  about Newt.

I just think he probably got bit on the neck by Pelosi and just hasn't been feeling himself ...ever since.

"duh1"...too funny,  I'm appropriating that!

Back to the cave.


Posted by: torabora at December 16, 2008 11:55 PM (Zz8tu)

191 Unlike other Republicans, who have nothing but the automatic response of hurling brainless invective, Newt is attempting something like civic responsibility. His advice to the GOP is wasted, but one commends him for the futile effort.

Posted by: Mandy at December 17, 2008 01:41 AM (vWC/f)

192 By all means, let's continue to spread our own ass cheeks. It's worked so well! Would you like some tea after you're done sodomizing us?

Posted by: carl hungus at December 17, 2008 02:53 AM (U3CHY)

193

Newt is a brillant man. He is right about constructive engagement.

We should stop all the hate and insecurities. IT MAKES US SEEM IGNORANT AND OUT OF TOUCH!!!!

 

Most of the postingin this article makes me wonder if we the party of the LINCOLN are loosing our appeal......we need to offer constructive ideas and not negativity. If we do not change our attitudes, the GOP will be destroyed.

Go to school and get a decent education to help make this nation a better place.

Posted by: slessgenger at December 17, 2008 03:20 AM (h30df)

194

I disagree with Obama's entire agenda.  I think we should attack him on any factual charge, as early and as often as possible, in the hope that he'll be so busy defending he won't be able to actually achieve any of his goals.

And as far as it not being smart to attack someone with a 75% approval rating, I say that good, factual attacks are the only way that 75% is ever going to come down.  Attack him on corruption if he's open on that front.  Attack his policies if he ever proposes any.  (As part of that attack, propose better ones for purposes of contrast.)  Never give him a free pass on anything.  Ever.  I would say to not attack any of his policies we happen to actually agree with, but 1. That's so obvious even a moron should know it, and 2. That's not going to be a problem because he's never going to propose anything we'll agree with.

 

Posted by: Calix at December 17, 2008 03:52 AM (8d3U/)

195

Be nice.

Play fair.

I think republicans have forgotten how to play the back bench.

Hell, they never even played the front bench.

The good guy doesn't always win.

That has been proven. Even though our candidate was a disappointment form the get go.

Oppose them. Criticize them. Even when they are right and the polls are behind them, offer more conservative alternatives.

When they are wrong and the polls are against them, flay them and then pour salt in the wounds. Ridicule them in every avenue. March our operatives in front of the cameras at every opportunity.

Does anyone remember the Enron scandal? (Scandal= Media Framing)

They trotted out all of their poster kids to excoriate Bush for allowing this terrible thing to ruin their lives. A very effective piece of theatre.

Why is it that republicans always want to play nice and never want to play politics?

We are lost until we have found our resolve and a big stick.

Posted by: Cluebat from Exodar at December 17, 2008 07:49 AM (cqZXM)

196

As much as I despise gingrich - he who was boinking his intern while prosecuting Clinton for doing the same (all the while lying to his constituents that marriage was a sacred rite) - he's right. With ALL the wingnut piling on that's failed regarding Obama (remember the Whitey Tape) - combined with the howling over the birth certificate AND Bill Ayers AND reverand Wright - all which got you no where, Newt - a sharp politician, knows which way the wind is blowing. i say keep piling on - so when Obama skirts again - and he will - the people will disreagrd the right when they latch on to a legitimate scandal - of which no administration is immune...

 

the right has gone so far over the top that they may not be able to come back to for quite some time. Unlike the Daily Kos - which is nutroot center, the crazy right wing is represented on talk radio and has a real audience. So back in the early Bush days - when the left was slaying Bush - no one heard it. With Rush Limbaugh and an audience of tens of millions, right wing idiocy makes the news...

Posted by: Fred at December 17, 2008 08:29 AM (3t4aE)

197 I think I speak for everyone here when I say how happy I am to have all these Democrats looking out for our best interests.

If you're encouraging us to do something and egging us fervently not to bring up Obama's connections as emphatically as possible (and seem quite nervous about it yourself) - I'm sure it's not a sign we should do the exact opposite.

Posted by: AD at December 17, 2008 08:57 AM (lRrWG)

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