1 Oprah? Oh, wait... never mind.

2 Well, I would suggest John Shimkus from downstate...except he's in the House, and we probably don't want to lose that seat, and probably doesn't really have enough name recognition.

3 To bad we offed John Wayne Gacy!

4 Damn you Mike Ditka!

How about Zo?

5 Rick Nielsen!

6 Congressman Mark Kirk
Former Governor Jim Edgar
Former Illinois Treasurer Judy Baar Topinka

They're all center right candidates that are electable statewide in Illinois.

After Blagogate, VERY electable.  Even Dingy Harry is worried.

7 Da Senator is da only shot, and he wouldn't touch it with a 20' pole.

8 Yeah, I know. He was a ghey strangler. Not a hobo killer. But , heh, It's Illinois.

9 ZombieLincoln for Senator!

10 Fitzgerald? Or would that be a conflict of interest? At least as a Republican candidate...it wouldn't matter in the least if he ran as a Democrat since ethics for them are "more of a guideline."

11 Man, Ditka could have saved us from O! for all time...I'll never look at that guy the same way again :/

12

Former Illinois Treasurer Judy Baar Topinka

They're all center right candidates that are electable statewide in Illinois.

Topinka (who's linked rather close to George Ryan, the last government to be tossed in the can) couldn't beat Blagojevich for governor when his approval rating during the election was like ... 3.

People. Not percent... 3 people.

13 That guy that used to play Bozo the Clown is dead, right?

14 Mark Kirk, R-10th District. Center/Right guy, good experience, no hint of personal scandal. IL Air national guard service. He would probably be the best candidate. They will likely let Quinn (Dem. Lt. Governor) make the appointment after Blago's out though, rather than have an election

15 love to see alan keyes---just cause that wouldn't make the precious happy.

16 Alan Keyes doesn't even freakin live here.

17

Oh, come on--give me another shot!

Second time's the charm!

If at first you don't succeed...

Remember Adlai Stevenson!

18

I know, Alan Keyes!!!!!

19

He's probably the only guy who'll run, however.

20 After what happened to Palin why would a rational, clean person capable of making an honest living want anything to do with politics, or the party that refused to defend her?  Just asking...

21
Fuck the center-right.

Run a Conservative and run him/her proudly and loudly.

Again, fuck the "moderates" and their mythical electability.

22 Ditka better run. I think he was too comfy in that ESPN studio and not concerned about Obama.
He said while campaigning for McLame that he felt horrible for allowing Obama to get through to the senate.
This is his chance to redeem himself a bit.
I want to see Ditka tear Reid a new one.

23
What's Jim Belushi doing these days?

24 Take Ron Paul.  Please.

25 There's always Alan Keyes...

/not sure whether to add a smiley or not

26 Whoever can deliver the dead vote.

27 ...just sayin' - someone who actually graduated from Clown College could show the rest of these clowns a thing or two, no? If not a real Bozo, then...???

So the way this is working out after two instructive data points, is it the population of the State's largest city that determines the next Governor to go down? Or is L.A. bigger than Chicago now, which would shoot down my hopes of Ah-nuld getting caught selling his line of steroids to grade school kids...

28

I'd like to nominate myself.

 

No seriously, me.  I'd be honored to represent Illinois, and work to remove the tarnish that currupt elected officials have repeated placed on this state.

29 Does "Joe the Plumber" have any extended, regional kin?

30 greg maddux has some time on his hands now.

31

Mark Kirk is the obvious, establishment choice. The only other prominent Republican I can think of would be Tony Peraica - but he's lost two elections in Cook County in the past two years. I mean, sure, it's Cook County. He wasn't going to win anyway. But he always gives off douche chills for some reason. Seems like an asshole.

Former governor Jim Edgar? He was fairly popular, and though he's been solidly retired from politics for about a decade, I wonder if he could be persuaded to float in for two years as a placeholder. He's still relatively young, pretty charismatic, and didn't actively bang a hooker at the podium during any State of the State speeches. He could do that whole "trusted statesmen temporarily unretiring in a time of crisis to restore confidence in our political system."

Which would be amusing, if only because that implies anyone in Illinois had confidence in our political system to begin with.

32 Lou Piniella. Just for the sheer entertainment value his temper would bring.

33 Damn, you beat me to Edgar. I thought I had something useful to contribute for a change.

34 #6

Edgar would be a great choice, but can he even run?

35

I promise that, if elected, I will be too busy slacking off and using the power of my office to hit on chicks to bother with corrupt deals.

Entropy '09!

A candidate who'll fuck your daughter, not you.

36 Bernie Kosar? I don't know if he still lives there. A very sharp guy.

37 oops. cleveland is in Ohio.

38

39

I was never here.

40 I've got two words- Gary Frickin' Sinise.  Illinois native, still lives there most of the time, I think.

Lt. Dan for Senate !!

41 Jack Ryan.  I think folks are pretty much over his divorce.  He probably would have beat the young Barak Hussein.

42

Jeri Ryan.  Wouldn't that be a hoot?

43 Oh, and can Oberweiss PLEASE sit this one out?  If he still has that much money to burn, just give it to me.

44 I think that's three words with the Frickin, JB, but if he'd run it'd be awesome.

45 Yeah I've heard a bit of a buzz about Mark Kirk vying for either the governorship or the Senate seat.  So here's some info on Mr. Kirk:
- He's pro-abortion
- He received a grade of "C-" from the National Taxpayers Union
- He received a score of 19% from the Club for Growth
- He is in the pocket of teachers' unions
- He's an ethanol porker
- He's an eco-nut, getting good scores from all the usual econazi suspects
- The NRA gave him a score of "F"

About the only good things I can find about him are that he seems to be good on small business issues and national security issues, and international trade issues.  This guy is a GOP squish.

Can we find someone else?

46 Have Rudy Guiliani run.  He could put on a Cubs hat and claim to have been a fan all of his life.

47

Mark Kirk, R-10th District. Center/Right guy, good experience, no hint of personal scandal. IL Air national guard service. He would probably be the best candidate.

 

Except that he's one of the co-sponsors of the new 'Assault Weapons Ban' sleepwalking its zombie way through the House now, so bitter suburban clingers like me will take to him like I took to John McCain...........That is, not at all. Although, next to Dick Dustbin he's Charlton Heston.

Al Frankens' probably condo shopping on the Mag Mile with Patti Blagojevich right now as we speak.

48 I think it would be great if the dems, knowing they could lose the seat, do a down-and-dirty democrat only election - like a primary.  Then from out of the woodwork comes Limbaugh's Operation Chaos voters.  How many repubs in IL are registered as dems? Would love to see them do a write in on election day of some conservative or libertarian candidate and win. Watching the dem meltdown would be priceless. Just watching a purple-faced, spittle-flecked Keith Olberman stroking out would be worth it. Would be great for moral on ours side too.

49

Kirk practically passes for rightwing in this state with that record.

Remember, even the gubernatorial candidate, Topinka, was pro-choice and supportive of civil unions for gays during her run. Hell, she marched in Chicago's pride parade. This from the <i>Republican</i>.

Kirk's about as conservative as anyone is likely to get. The last "real" conservative who took a stab at things was Oberweiss, and he was hilarious in all the wrong ways. It was like having a drunken uncle who grew up during the Depression over for dinner. You just kind of forgot how racist people used to be until he opens his mouth over pie and whiskey.

Jack Ryan comeback isn't too likely. All we'd hear is "sex club" and while I wouldn't personally object, most other folks would. Why give the Dems any ammunition.

50 - He's pro-abortion
- He received a grade of "C-" from the National Taxpayers Union
- He received a score of 19% from the Club for Growth
- He is in the pocket of teachers' unions
- He's an ethanol porker
- He's an eco-nut, getting good scores from all the usual econazi suspects
- The NRA gave him a score of "F"

True, but this is Illinois.  Allow Jim Edgar to remind you of what kind of voter re-elected Governor Legoman hair.

Mark Kirk for Illinois would be what Norm Coleman is for Minnesota.  A great Senator that represents the interests of the state on the national stage.

Can you name the last conservative that was elected to a statewide office in Illinois?  I want to believe, but seriously when was the last one?

51 Alan Keyes

52 Topinka got 40% of the vote running against Blago in 2006...should have been closer, even McCain got 36% in Illinois running against the ONE.  Probably a weak senate candidate.

53
"Ditka better run." No, no, no. Have you heard him lately? He sounds, and looks, like he's been hitting the bottle really hard. And frankly, the guy isn't all that bright.

Let's not forget Steve Sauerberg; he got almost a third of the vote when he ran against Dick Durbin.

54 Zombie Lincoln and Zombie Douglas! It would be hard for them to debate, but they could have a brain-eating contest!

55 I sold two pups to a guy from Chicago a few years ago.  Obviously those dogs are fine registered Democrats by now, but hey...dogs are nice, they were born in the US...just sayin'

56 Jim Edgar has a $4 million campaign fund that he can use to fund his retirement. If he runs for Senate and loses, he's stuck with a governor's pension. He won't run. It's not going to happen.

The fact is that right now the state has three or four Democrats who are better positioned than anyone in the Republican party, with the sole exception of Edgar.

Alan Keyes is a joke. Oberweis is a joke. The only good thing about Kirk running is that in a special election he wouldn't have to give up his seat to do so. The state needs a businessman with a serious attitude, someone who can get the bond rating out of the gutter and stop blowing sunshine up everyone's ass. This is the worst or second-worst state in the country in terms of unfunded pension liabilities. The chickens are roosting now...

57
Are you fucking people soft?

Have you learned nothing from the last election? It was only 5 weeks ago!

The GOP needs to start running Conservatives. We can win with Conservatives who know how to properly present the conservative message. Fuck you, please, and your fucking candidates with "electability."

58 "Are you fucking people soft?"

I didn't know you could do it soft.

59

Topinka got 40% of the vote running against Blago in 2006

As I remember, Blago spent about 4 times the amount on his campaign Judy Topinka did, and the thrust of Rod's campaign ads was that she would just be a continuation of the bad ol' George Ryan administration. Sound familiar?

60 Ditka is a gimmick candidate. What we need, frankly is a Republican version of Obama, with more substance hopefully but who can "bring hope and change" to Illinois and can hold the seat for more than one term.

61
When are you fucking dunces going to stop allowing the media and the Democrats to pick your candidates?

This is exactly why Sarah Palin, a great Conservative leader, will never be able to run for president. Palin has been smeared by the media and Republicans don't have the stomach to ignore it if she runs.

62 I don't care what those Hymietown bastards want. The clear choice of the people is Jesse Jackson Jr!

63

There isn't a decent Republican who would bother running.  The brain dead Chicago voters don't care they're going to elect a Dem no matter what.  Blago's win in 06 despite all the corruption surrounding him shows that the ratio of sentient humans/chattle has become far to low for a Republican to have any chance in a statewide race. 

 It's just so funny.  Chicago is a shithole town, for most of the people who live there it's not safe, the economy's bad, public services are for shit, corruption is rampant and Dem's have been in control forever yet the morons who live up their continue to vote Dem.  I don't feel for them though, they deserve the hell they live in.  What irks me is that my money goes up there to subsidize the insanity and in return I get the violence and lawlessness engendered by the feckless and corrupt Chicago police's inabilty to maintain law and order jumping on I55 and winding up in my neck of the woods.  Easily half the major violent crime in this town is perpetrated by people with a Chicago address.   

64 One thing in Gary Sinise's favor:  I've heard rumors that his political leanings have left him very much disliked amongst his Steppenwolf compadres.  Guess which way most of them lean?

As if anyone had to guess...

65 'As I remember, Blago spent about 4 times the amount on his campaign Judy Topinka did'

It's probably a given the Democrat will outspend the Republican again so it's one more reason not to run Topinka, who obviously needs to be financially competitive. We need a candidate that can win despite the financial disadvantage.  Since there are no obvious names out there except Edgar maybe an extremely telegenic and articulate dark horse can be hyped up enough to be credible.

66 The GOP will run Oberweis in a special election if Edgar ops out.

That's what they've got!!!!

67

I second Lt. Dan. Or any member of the '85 Bears. Dammit, we miss Sweetness now more than ever.

68 I'm telling you, Chicagoans like to vote for corrupt Donks and then pat themselves on the back at being sophisticated enough to look past the corruption.  Morons, most, and I grew up there.

69 Laura Bush!

Well, it wouldn't be unprecedented, would it?

70 Ace, you comment on my suggestion by saying Sinise would be "screwing CBS", and you say that as if it would be a bad thing.

That's GRAVY, BABY !

71 This was very fortunate for the GOP. Given that McCain got his ass kicked there was no need to find a replacement senator for him.

72 I like Sinise much too much to wish him to become a Chicago politician.

73 Kensington, when I lived there the only thing that shocked me more than the corruption was the fact that it was just accepted by most of the sheeple as the Chicago Way^(tm).

74 "Democrats have a cute saying: "Republicans spend their campaigns saying the government can't work, then spend their time in office proving it."

Funny, I admit."

That's a PJ O'Rourke line from Parliament of Whores. Corruptocrats even steal their jokes I guess.

75 I wonder what Michael Jordan's politics are. He does have business experiences and has managed not to bankrupt himself or be put in prison, which is quite an accomplishment for a athlete nowadays.

76 Word in Chicago is that Blago made Obama a "Offer he couldn't refuse" to get his
choice to fill his Senate seat...and Obama responded by hiring Fitzgerald to be
his button man and send Blago to "sleep with the fishes". The next
Governor...Pat Quinn...will give Obama what he wants without asking for anything
for it.

77

Jerry Springer

Roger Ebert

Kanye West

ooh...ooh...Jeremy Piven -he's a great, unfoundedly cocky left-wing doucher...

Too bad Studs Turkel died...

 

 

78 Bart has a point here.  If we're going to lose, we might as well lose with conservatives than with liberals.  Why bother voting for Mccain when he's so similar to Obama?  A lot of people just don't trust a moderate to have balls and vision, and it's time we chose our hill to die on.  I also think we have at least as good a shot running as Republicans than as Democrat light.

79 Well, I guess I could come out of retirement...

80 It's probably a given the Democrat will outspend the Republican again so it's one more reason not to run Topinka, who obviously needs to be financially competitive.

The financial advantage that Blagojevich had in 2006 was derived from the weak campaigns of his primary opponents.  Topinka actually had to run a primary race and spend money to win.  By the time the general came around Rod used his money to run weeks of negative ads to define Topinka in the race.

These variables aren't available in a short race.  Any Democrat is this state will have to have a history of opposing Blagojevich to win.  If they have any history of endorsing him they'll be radioactive.

Ditka won't run because his wife opposes it.
Sauerberg is good, but again it is very difficult for a conservative to win a state wide office in Illinois.  Seriously, when was the last one?

Another name to throw out there is Ron Gidwitz.

81 When are you fucking dunces going to stop allowing the media and the Democrats to pick your candidates?

This is exactly why Sarah Palin, a great Conservative leader, will never be able to run for president. Palin has been smeared by the media and Republicans don't have the stomach to ignore it if she runs.

Posted by: Bart at December 11, 2008 04:24 PM (4qYq9)


Well what names can you pull out of your magic hat for us?  Who do you think should run?  Or was your suggestion of Jim Belushi not supposed to be a joke?

82

You'll get Jim Oberweis as your Republican Senate candidate and like it!

 

PS: You'll lose, too. Like you're not used to that.

83

Bart - the media have little to do with it. It isn't that we've been jedi mind-tricked into believing conservative Republicans can't win in Illinois. It's that we've witnessed, in real time, over many years, conservatives being flattened - utterly - with no chance of getting up from the mat.

The brilliant "What Illinois needs is a red-blooded conservative" thinking is what got us Alan Keyes and Jim Oberweiss. They went over like herpes at a slumber party.

84 Mike Ditka!

85 Watcher, it may be that we don't have a lot of true red conservatives ready to go in Chicago, but Bart is right... we need to REBUILD this party.  It's going to suck and take a long time.  But the attitude of electability is part of why we're fucked right now.

He's also right about Palin... she had a heart and was a great communicator and is a proven leader miles more experienced than Obama, Biden, or fuck-it MCCAIN... and many republicans sneer at the idea of running her because the MSM hates her guts.  They successfully preemptively stopped her.

86 Ditka's not afraid of skeletons in the closet.

87 RobbieM, Alan Keyes is crazy.

It is possible for a real conservative to win in Illinois.  I know it sounds crazy, but a lot of conservative policies are very popular.  They called Mccain a right wing extremist, so they will call anyone a right wing extremist, but who cares? 

We can run a good clean fighter... a person who is not involved with the dem machine at all.  A person who demands free markets, low taxes, great defense, and no government control over social issues.

A lot of people will vote for such a candidate if that person is well spoken, smart, and not crazy.

88
The Belushi thing was a joke. But if he's a staunch Conservative, then we should run him!

The point is, we need to run a conservative. I'm not from Illinois, but I'm sure we can find at least one conservative Republican living in Illinois.

Bottom line: Don't run on electability. Run on principles.

89 Would Mike (Speaker) and Lisa (AG, and daughter) be tempted to cross the aisle(s) and run on the GOP side as a protest to the corruption of Daley and Blago as an end run against their local foes?
Are they conservat-ish or straight dem/libs?

90 Hello.  People.  Just look at my damn name. That alone arleady makes me more conservative than 99% of the people who will run for office in this state.

91 Would Mike (Speaker) and Lisa (AG, and daughter) be tempted to cross the aisle(s) and run on the GOP side as a protest to the corruption of Daley and Blago as an end run against their local foes?
Are they conservat-ish or straight dem/libs?

Posted by: Potosi Joel at December 11, 2008 04:56 PM (TPRbZ)

Never. Neither one of them could be considered remotely conservative. Especially Lisa she's as left wing as they get. And they wouldn't protest Daley since they are as thick as theives with him.

92
How hard is it to stand in front of a crowd and say, "I'm against these bailouts and here's why..."

Or, "I want to win in Iraq and here's why..."

Or, "Government is not the solution, it is the problem, and here's why..."

For fuck's sake, can we find a single Conservative voice who is eloquent, intelligent, courageous, and principled?*

_{*I felt like Charlie Brown did during the Charlie Brown Christmas Special when I wrote that. You know, the one with the shitty tree and Linus explains the true meaning of Christmas.}

93 Problem with conservatives in Illinois for state-wide or national office is the rabid anti-gun stance of the two major Chicago newspapers. I mean barking drooling nuts about banning everything from staple guns on up. Anybody that gets more than a D+ from the NRA makes them light up and say TILT. That's one of the reasons Baracko the Clown was so damn popular with the Chicago press; he's been just as nuts since he first sleazed his way into elected office.

94 There hasn't been a real conservative R representing IL in the Senate in my lifetime. The last R senator was Peter Fitzgerald, who was somewhat conservative fiscally, but eccentric otherwise. Before that was Chuck Percy, a RINO. Before him was a placeholder appointment, RT Smith, after Everett Dirksen's death. Dirksen was a fairly conservative R at the time, but left of what we call a conservative today. IL is not a Republican state. We did get some R govs in the 70s and 80s and used to get a R senate seat every now and then, but I think those days are behind us. Once the Chicago suburbs went Dem, it was over. Lisa Madigan would likely win if she ran but I think she wants the gov's chair first. I don't like her very much myself, but many Dems do. Besides, my Republican vote counts for nothing. Anything's probably better than a Daley though.

95 Mark Kirk. A moderate in Illinois is a step up from the usual trash, and it als makes sense. A conservative would have a hard time winning there. You'd have a hard time even finding one in those parts.; the last one is probably in  the natural history museum next to the mastodon (the party mascot.)

96 Hey, that swinger-club-wife-swapping Ryan could run. I could see past his messy divorce details. OTOH all the pron I'm watching may have tilted me out of the mainstream values of IL.

97 Would Mike (Speaker) and Lisa (AG, and daughter) be tempted to cross the aisle(s) and run on the GOP side as a protest to the corruption of Daley and Blago as an end run against their local foes?

Answer: No. In Illinois, you can only cross over if you are the designated Republican patsy running for mayor. Madigan isn't interested in running for governor, and his daughter probably can't run while he is speaker either.

Jim Ryan is probably the best candidate, though he needs to change his name to Sandberg or something.

Ditka is a drunk. Seriously. Like every afternoon.

Michael Jordan, BTW, donated the max to Barry.

98 A moderate Republican in Chicago will be part of the corruption scheme.  The only way to give the voters a choice to condemn the corruption is to get their ideological enemy.  A well spoken intelligent conservative who isn't crazy would offer them the clear choice.

Otherwise, they have no clear choice.  They can vote for a democrat or a republican who is probably a democrat-light and both involved in the muck.  there is no chance for voters to vote against the corruption and we lose anyway.

just as Mccain did not offer much of an alternative from the global warming hysteria, bush bashing, bailout loving democrats.

99 I meant senator. In any case, the point is that Madigan doesn't want higher office. He dimwit daughter does, but that's another fold of the same bolt of cloth.

100
THREAD ENDER:

Illinois Atty Gen. says NO SPECIAL ELECTION.

Illinois Atty Gen. now says IMMEDIATE IMPEACHMENT.

Sorry, but it's not exactly like I interrupted a wet dream.

101

There are some great, upstanding guys in southern IL. Sure, they're already in the IL senate or house of reps but great guys.

Best one down there...

Mike Bost !!

...only problem is finding another R to replace his seat...

102 Jeepers. John Cusack, Fran Drescher, and Al Franken in the Senate. Say it ain't so!

103

Honestly, if a conservative were to have a chance, they'd have to be relatively young, charismatic, and practically unknown. Every politician in this state is elbow deep in all the wrong things. It's almost impossible for someone to achieve any office of significance without having taken out a third mortgage on their integrity.

This pretty much leaves us with conservativeinthecity. Which, hey, I'd vote for him. I'd even do a fundraiser. Granted, it'd have to be at the Dave and Buster's on Clark, but I don't think anyone's in a position to be picky.

104 If conservativeinthecity runs, we lose the crucial hobo vote.

105

Wait a minute!  I got it -- he's perfect.  He lives in Chicago.  He's one of us.  And he can get the hobo vote.

Fellow morons, I present the next great Senator from Illinois:

 

 

WickedPinto

106 In Chicago, hobo's good eatin'. Lower Wacker Drive: Vile pit of hell or local deli? Kind of a toss up. Especially on Sundays when the tail-gaters are lurking about.

107

Ditka is a drunk. Seriously. Like every afternoon.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

108 CinC, you'd tell our kids there's no Santa Claus.  I don't think I can endorse you.

109 I mentioned in one of the Blago is a crook thread, that Illinois is the birthplace of Ronald Wilson Reagan, the "home state" (though not the birth place) of Abe "the Railsplitter" Lincoln and the personally selected retirement home of General US Grant.  Thinking "outside the box"....Congresswoman Judy Biggert would be a solid choice.  Re-elected this past November, she'd be a good choice.  She also voted AGAINST the recent bail-out POS. 

110 Hell I'll do it.  So what if I live in Indiana, I can just move across the wabash river.  Besides, with me in the senate everyone of those bastards would be freaked out as I would call 'em all on the horse-shit they constantly produce.

111 Wait,

John Cusack is a douche because he is an actor who talks about wanting to get into politics.  And you want Gary Sinise to run for Senate.  In the same post?

What is it with you guys and celebrities? 

112 Wasn't one of Blago's problems taking money from the casinos and giving it to the racetracks?  If this is the case then Edgar was involved.  I haven't been a citizen of Chicago for 6 years but I do remember Edgar being in the pocket of the horse racing industry.  What about that Oberweis guy?  Also, since Blago's got his back against the wall and is soon to be in full-blown get bent mode, any chance of him naming a R just out of spite?

113

#45, Thanks for the Mark Kirk info. You sure wouldn't know any of that vital stuff from his website, though it is clear that he's anti-religion, except for the Religion of Global Warming. So screw him.

Don't think Gary Sinise is interested. Surely to God there's an Iraq or Afghanistan War vet somewhere in this godforsaken state (yes, I live here too) that we can run.

114

There has been some mixed messages on the whole special election thing.  Apparently, the Dems. figured out that running a special election might end in them losing the seat.  I do think they will end up having to change the law and have a special election though.  There is no way that anyone is going to trust any appointments. 

As for Republican candidates, the current thinking is Mark Kirk.  I know that there is whining about how he is a RINO, but please remember that this is IL, not GA.  I live in his district and he has done well for everyone regarding quality of life issues and other local problems for everyone and is basically a boy scout.  He'd do a good job representing the entire state and is a pretty savvy pol. who won against an Obama clone in a district that went about 60% for the Messiah.

115

#112 -

 

Please don't bring up Oberweis.  He was such an inept candidate that he couldn't win Denny Hastert's old seat. 

As for Edgar, he was in the pocket of some special interests, but it was definitely nothing illegal or up to the usual level of IL governor sleaze.  I cannot see him running though because he had health problems when he was governor. 

116 It will never be Ditka, I am best friends with a man that was a bartender at Ditkas resturant in Chicago for 3 years and the stories I would hear from him about Ditkas drunken follies were a laugh riot not even mentioning the hookers that would ply their trade with Ditka looking on.

117 There's always my Representative--Peter Roskam.

Beat the carpet bagging Tammy Duckworth.  Then beat the next carpet bagger Jill Morgenthaler (by 16%).

118

I don't believe Jim Edgar will run.  He's had heart issues, and I don't think he would want to deal with the stresses of the job.  Plus, the republican party turned to him before when George Ryan was under investigation, and he said he wouldn't run.  The Illinois republican party has got to stop hoping he'll save them.

One likely candidate for the republicans is Mark Kirk, who just won reelection against the man I think the democrats will consider, Dan Seal. 

Seal could be Obama's twin.  He's run against Mark Kirk in Lake County a number of times and hasn't been successful, but if you add the huge democrat vote potential in Chicago, and he could pull it off.   Like Obama, he's also an empty suit.  Something Illinois voters seem to prefer.

119 It has just been reported here in IL that Kirk wants the senate seat, so the search starts anew for a rep gov.

120 You don't want Alan Keyes. I know he used be something, but he's been eating silly pie and washing it down with goofy juice for the last few years and is now crazy as a loon. He "ran" against Obama after Ryan was forced to drop out and was a complete laughingstock.

So, no.

121 CUS @ 117 mentions Peter Roskam.  Here is what Project VoteSmart has to say about him.
- Pro-life
- He received a grade of B+ from National Taxpayers Union
- He received a grade of 90% from American Conservative Union
- He received a grade of F from the NEA
- He received a grade of 100% from Family Research Council
- He received a grade of A from the NRA
- And he's voted against both bailouts.

Now I know nothing else about Roskam other than what I read.  Maybe he is a complete asshole.  But he certainly has stronger conservative credentials than Mark Kirk AND he is able to win elections in Illinois.

Why can't a guy like this step forward?

122

As Governor, I'd ensure a strict separation of Santa Claus and State.

Furthermore, while getting the hobo vote is crucial, I don't forsee them being a problem with the AoS campaigners start canvassing the neighborhood with a various assortment of hobo huntin' weaponry.

123 #64, Gary Sinise is pro-military, but he's not a so-con. John Malkovich is pro-military, pro-Iraq war, pro-Afghanistan War, pro-Bush, fiscal conservative, but also not a so-con. He's mostly libertarian. But yeah, unfortunately, other Steppenwolf people are moonbats, to a man. But Gary & John are the smartest and by far the most talented ones.

124

Hmmm, Mark Kirk does represent my district....maybe Kirk running and winning wouldn't be so bad afterall....

 

*plots and schemes*

125 I dont know if anybody brought it up, but Ive been told Edgar has pretty bad heart problems. He might not be healthy enough to run, the stress of the campiagn might give him a grabber.

126

Let me elaborate my credentials...

1. Recruitment chair for my fraternity in college

2. Vice-president of the thespian club in high school

3. Community/Moronapalooza Organizer for Chicago and the surrounding suburbian area.

 

....now that I think about it, I'm overqualified.  My experience is actually a bit more suited towards something like POTUS

127 Just to get his name out there, Aaron Schock will be someone to look to in 4 or 8 years. Attractive candidate for Illinois.

Jack Ryan is hard to let go since he was a fundamentally good candidate for Illinois circa 2004.

I've respected him ever since he had Justin Warfe follow Barack around 24/7 with a video camera. Literally, all day; followed him in a car, restrooms, wait outside his office.

But, this is Chicago; if you're *lucky* enough you can get sealed divorce documents opened against the wishes of both spouses.

128 It will never be Ditka, I am best friends with a man that was a bartender at Ditkas resturant in Chicago for 3 years and the stories I would hear from him about Ditkas drunken follies were a laugh riot not even mentioning the hookers that would ply their trade with Ditka looking on.

Posted by: XERXES at December 11, 2008 05:55 PM (3ZswP)

Drunk and hookers shouldn't disqualify a man from office.

129 Sorry, I suggested Al Franken in the future post.  Trying to make up for lost blogging. 

Jim Edgar was a solid governor and extremely popular--Lyin' George Ryan rode into town on his coattails, beating a fairly conservative Dem downstater (would have been better for the state if Poshard had won)...kind of like the Mark Warner effect here in Virginia.  He's telegenic and has a cute wife. 

But that was a different, less stupid Illinois (after I left the state)--it's shocking to see DuPage and Kane counties breaking Dem now. I liked Topinka as I got to know her personally, but her dykiness is a bit of a turn off (except to lesbians, who the Republicans should do a better job attracting). I really don't think you'll find a viable Repub candidate except for perennial rich loser Oberweis.  Oberweis would lose to Blago if he ran for governor. 

130
Drunk and hookers shouldn't disqualify a man from office.

I concur.

131 Sillys!

There are no decent law-abiding politicians in all of Ill.

132 Peter Roskam is my rep, too; and his voting record is, so far, about 99 &44/100's percent of what I'd vote. Hell, my wife actually knows and likes Jill Morgenthaler, and she voted for Roskam, too. But if he ran for US senator the Chicago press would crank into full smear mode, and unfortunately that's where most of the idiots in this state get their 'news'. , Even Dick 'Derrrrrr' Durbin got 67% of the vote in formerly-solidly-Republican Dupage County; too many touchy-feely Oprah-watching sucker moms and Cook County transplants who can't seem to figure out why the nice place they moved to got that way in the first place. Hint: not having the totally corrupt bunch who's in charge of Cook running things here. Our guys are at least circumspect about their boodling, and not big fans of funneling money down Chicago's rathole. The Daley bunch look on the whole state of Illinois as their rightful income base.

133

I'm across the border Paulitics.

I was gonna nominate Steve, the artist formerly known as ed snate.  He's written more books than obama, about things that actually happened, and has never knowingly hung out with a terrorist, rod blagojevich OR Jeremiah Wright.

right there he's more qualified than obama, though I think Jack Ryan would be poetry.

134 Rex Grossman's free. 

135 I was gonna nominate Steve, the artist formerly known as ed snate.  He's written more books than obama

Really. What's he written? Got any titles?

136 I thought you were in Chicago, WP.  Didn't you used to be?

137

Sinise would be great. Barring that, I say Mike Ditka.

C'mon! Tell me you wouldn't tune in to CSPAN just to see Ditka, clipboard in hand, bring the Senate 'Pubs into the huddle and have 'em take a knee for a pep talk just before a crucial "goal line stand" vote to stop a catastrophic Dem bill?

Also, I'd give my eye teeth to see him grab Grahamnesty by the face mask and shake some sense into that little weasle.

He could get Dennis Green as his press secretary:

Jerkweed from the presspool: "Why did Senator Ditka vote against the Democrats latest ploy, er, measure?"

Greene: "Because they ARE who we thought they were! They ARE who we thought they were! And we're NOT gonna let 'em off the hook!"

Sinise would be great too. He brings his own dynamics to the table in the way of leadership, intellect, sense of duty, etc...

Question is, do we need Coach Ditka to rally the troops for "goal line stands" against Dem insanity or Sinise to spar with, and probably humiliate, the Dem leadership on offense?

If only we could have both...

138

Nice work Ace on putting those facts on Jarrett.  It's been well known for years, and unreported except in the Boston Globe over the summer.

Sad but true.

Jarrett's "managed" properties were actually shut down by the feds as uninhabitable.  Nice property management.  She's set to be a top Obama advisor. SWEET!

139 Gary Sinise would be awesome!!!

I hope he runs. He can kick some ass.

140 By and large I love you morons, except now when events have you talking Chicago, Cook County, and Illinois politics.

1) I'm calling thread-ender on the Jim Edgar talk. He and his wife are not healthy enough to run for office again, especially not a state-wide campaign to go to D.C. Like somebody else pointed out above, the Illinois GOP begged him to save the governor's mansion after Ryan and then also to save this very same senate seat through the Fitzgerald-Ryan-Keyes fiasco. He wouldn't throw in then and he won't now.

2) Mark Kirk is a moderate - but not a RINO. He holds a seat in the WASP-y, Jewish, veeerry wealthy North Shore suburbs. So, no-brainer, you won't get a guy who checks all the Red State boxes. But the guy is a proud Republican. And most important, he's got a warchest and fundrasing connections that hopefully he can activate again on short notice.

3) Illinois still has conservative demographics to draw on . . . in Southern Illinois, believe it or not. It's white, evangelical, socially-conservative, and clings to its guns. Downstate Democrats are a very different species from Chicagoland Democrats. Glen Poshard was the Democratic nominee for governor in 1998, and he damn sure checked a lot of the Red State boxes. Ryan was a clear RINO and as it developed Daley and the Chicagoland libs figured he was still preferable to a culturally conservative Democratic governor. Chicagoland Machine or goo goo lib Dems do not play well Downstate. I think Alan Keyes won as many as nine far Downstate counties - which should tell you something.

4) To whomever suggested Tony Peraica: I'm laughing at you.

141 Isn't Iowahawk in Illinois? 

I'm just sayin . . .

142

We downstaters love Edgar and are always waiting for the day he runs again for office, but he won't run again -- the Chicago crowd seemed to be pretty much out to get him (the race track thing -- Edgar tried to help salvage the horse industry in ILand in relation help out small ag, something Blags and Co. deep sixed and still is...actually a very large industry in this state at one time, indirectly hired more folks than you'd think, now it's gutted, lots of jobs and property lost or devalued , businesses moved out or closed, and on the humane note a lot of poor damn horses met/are meeting/ will meet a very cruel fate thanks to Blag's "humanity", but Blago's real estate buddies made some money across the state on that and I suppose Blowjob got a good peek at Bo's hooters-- thanks Chi-cago).

Oberwiess is unwinnable (good ice cream though -- maybe if he handed out free ice cream).

Ryan might stand a chance, maybe.  Topinka no -- too many bad feelings over Georgie still for that to happen.  Only reason she got as close as she did was due to Blowjobovitch being so damn unpopular.  Please don't bring Keyes back, that run up against The One was hard to watch on so many levels.

I'd vote for Roskam, but my averages aren't good at picking winners since Edgar.

143 Mark Kirk!

144 Too bad Bob Bell's gone; I could see winning with "Hey! Why not elect a real live actual professional clown!"

145

Mark Kirk might win down here -- but his anti gun stance hurts him with both Republicans, Libertarians (there are quite a few of those unaccounted for down here), and Democrats.  The old town Dems down here are a different breed -- they went to the mat Repub this election cycle and would do so again if given the right canidate (the Dems throw up someone who even just appears moderate, package it right and they'll take it over Kirk because of his issue with guns).

 

Barry's got a lot of people down here clinging to their guns -- not a good time, imho, to put up someone who might remind them of  that.

Wanna carry the downstate vote?  Get someone in who does something about the taxes....like that will ever happen.  We really do need to cut loose.

146

Actually, just getting a canidate that doesn't reek of eau de North of Kankakee could probably carry the down state.  We are really developing quite the hate for our northern brothers and sisters (not that they haven't asked for it).

Fav smartass remark down here:  What's the true meaning of "Chicago"?  It's an Indian term for a stinky bog or onion field, the Italians say it reads "I shit here." ....we prefer the last one, but say either one could apply.

147 Mark Kirk's anti-gun stance helps him in the Waspy/ Jewishy/ very rich 10th district that he represents and his stance (banning assault weapons) is probably better than the probably Combine nominee's stance toward guns, especially considering Daley's tirade after the Supreme Court decision. Unfortunately, to win IL, a Republican candidate needs to win the suburbs big time to offset the Daley machine. Kirk can win the suburbs big time especially with the current scandal; he already won an almost impossible election against Dan Seals. (His win made my election night!!). The reason why Reid is flipping out over the Senate seat is because he knows that Kirk will win this one.

148 I'd vote for Conservative in the City but that means he couldn't get shitfaced in The Northside anymore.

And if I was married to Jeri Ryan...I'd be trying to get her to do all kinds of freaky shit too.

I'm just say'n!

149 Well, maybe vote in Kirk, and we vote in our seccession from Chicagoland.

150

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