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Hah: McDonald's Goofs on Starbucks

Attacking Starbucks where it hurts. Not on price -- but on image.

Another billboard slogan jabs, "large is the new grande." The two phrases are displayed on 140 billboards in Western Washington, some of them near Starbucks cafes.

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Will Starbucks respond in kind? Unlikely.

While the coffee wars received much media and Wall Street trumpeting this year, Starbucks has been mostly silent, maintaining that its customer base is different.

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Instead, it is fighting back in a more subtle way. Executives have hinted that Starbucks is taking the high road.

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"We're not going to get into that conversation. We're not going to get sucked into the, 'My coffee is better than your coffee,' price point type of coffee conversation. We're going to play at a much higher level. And by 'higher level,' I mean even more Dianna Krall songs covered by Annie Lennox."

I made up that last part.

I'm not sure if I really get McDonald's strategy. People aren't just buying Starbuck's coffee. They're also paying for the right to hang out for an hour or two on a nice chair, which McDonald's isn't offering. Plus, from my experience, Starbucks is a lot friendlier when they catch you masturbating in their bathrooms. Or on line, for that matter.


Posted by: Ace at 02:52 PM



Comments

1 Diana Krall.  Let's keep the mockery at the highest level.

Posted by: Hucklebuck at December 11, 2008 02:58 PM (oQLnX)

2 Wow. That explains the whole Tom Hanks new movie in a nutshell, so to speak.

Posted by: Spartan Fan at December 11, 2008 03:00 PM (7365r)

3 Starbucks is going to be hurting pretty soon and the guys behind McDonald's are trying to steal the "geeze I like that stuff but I can't afford it any more" crowd.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 11, 2008 03:00 PM (PQY7w)

4 No shit. Have you ever tried masturbating at McDonald's? Man, those mothers in the kiddie play area get really, really angry. Bitches.

Posted by: jaleach at December 11, 2008 03:00 PM (gHrZU)

5

Eh...if I buy coffee, it's at a gas station.  Otherwise I drink the stuff the secretaries brew in the office.  Neither one is getting my business.

Posted by: Joseph at December 11, 2008 03:01 PM (1ugNs)

6 Have you ever tried masturbating at McDonald's?

Only when I was working behind the counter.

"Would you like more "special sauce" on your Big Mac, sir?"

Posted by: wiserbud at December 11, 2008 03:06 PM (IHbof)

7 That slogan would have been great in September and October. "Four dollars is dumb. Allow us to drill before we go into recession." But we didn't run anybody for President.

Posted by: t-bird at December 11, 2008 03:07 PM (FcR7P)

8 I agree with #3.  This attacks Starbucks image and could help to peel off some of the less committed customers.  In political terms, it doesn't go after Starbuck's base, it goes after the undecided and the centrists.

#4, that right there is some funny shit.  You here by are selected to the very first member of the "Official Ace O SpadesTM Second Life" online community.  Details to follow.  E-mail Ace for more information.  If he doesn't respond, just keep e-mailing him till he does.

Posted by: Ed at December 11, 2008 03:09 PM (EF99c)

9 Speedway gas stations have been calling their coffee "SmallBucks" for months now.

I'm not sure if I really get McDonald's strategy. People aren't just buying Starbuck's coffee. They're also paying for the right to hang out for an hour or two on a nice chair, which McDonald's isn't offering.

Huh.  Every time people have ever taken me to Starbucks it's been in the drive-thru.

Posted by: INCITEmarsh at December 11, 2008 03:09 PM (kbRPm)

10 So does this mean that we'll be bailing out Starbucks now, so they can continue to sell burnt coffee for four bucks a pop?

Posted by: Toad at December 11, 2008 03:11 PM (RZhpS)

11

[quote]Plus, from my experience, Starbucks is a lot friendlier when they catch you masturbating in their bathrooms. Or on line, for that matter.[/quote]

Yes, but McDonalds is much more forgiving when their employees masturbate into the food.

Posted by: dusty at December 11, 2008 03:12 PM (MDkjt)

12 by 'high road' they mean - we still are charging $4 for a cup of frothing hot snobbery, while subtly suggesting competators are low-life scum-bags for daring to run a common-sense reality based marketing campaign.

Posted by: whatthecrap? at December 11, 2008 03:12 PM (OW1jF)

13 thanks for the correction, Hucklebuck. I got her half-confused with starbucks' favorite Nina Simone.

Posted by: ace at December 11, 2008 03:12 PM (8T2pi)

14

some of them near Starbucks cafes.

And the award for most obvious statement in a Washington State newpaper article goes to.......

That idiot.

That's the semantical equivalent of being in Massachussetts and saying, "Some of them near a Dunkin' Donuts".

Posted by: Veeshir at December 11, 2008 03:14 PM (ThMnZ)

15 Except that McDonald's doesn't actually sell any of the drinks that cost $4 at Starbucks. Their regular coffee is only marginally less expensive than SB, and their espresso has only a little more breathing room. Try ordering your favorite $4 floofy drink from McDonald's and they'll look at you like you just said "Blagojavich." Nice marketing job by McD though, presenting a classic false choice as assumed knowledge.

Even though many gripe about SB overroasted (cf. burned) beans, McD coffee tastes like ass, just like the 35 cent insta-swill they sell from the machine at my office.

Posted by: mr.frakypants at December 11, 2008 03:15 PM (PonvG)

16 I go to KFC for my coffee.  $4.50 for a large, but those girls put on quite a show in them deep sinks they got.

Posted by: kiffen at December 11, 2008 03:15 PM (XnuxH)

17

I like McDonald's coffee better than Starbucks' anyway. I also like how their aren't jabbering homeless bums sitting in McDonald's all day, unlike Starbucks.

Although I'm torn about who I like being served by the least; facial pierced hipster douchebags or mouth breathing cretinous imbeciles. Right now it depends on what mood I'm in.

Posted by: UGAdawg at December 11, 2008 03:17 PM (MDHAs)

18

Starbucks can claim that they give the homeless guy on the sidewalk their unsold copies of the New York Times to sleep on. They care!

 

Posted by: kbdabear at December 11, 2008 03:17 PM (miw86)

19 Ace is right -- the base is completely different. I'm ten-fold more likely to pay the proverbial $4 cost (although it's not nearly that high here in Raleigh) for a coffee because for that price I know I'm also purchasing the brand, the red cup, the sofas, the tables at which I can work all day and nowadays the free internet. Or for a buck or so less at McDonalds I get poorly-trained workers in a restaurant one step above a rest area. The extra cost is worth it if you understand what that cost is purchasing.

Posted by: LastRick at December 11, 2008 03:19 PM (PA57O)

20 Mr Frakypants, you're right that you can't get a pumpkin chai latte with soymilk at McDonalds.

But you can't get french fries at Fourbucks either.

Advantage: Mcdonalds.

You also won't see anyone reading Mao at McDonalds.  I saw that a couple of years ago at Fourbucks.

Also McDonalds's coffee is actually pretty great.  I liked their coffee better before it went 'premium', but their stuff now is pretty damn good and consistent.  Anywhere I go in this huge country, I can always get predictably decent coffee at midnight.

That's a fucking service to civilization.

Posted by: Shill at December 11, 2008 03:20 PM (8jYMc)

21 I drink SB all the time. I buy the empty cup for $0.50. The guy behind me in line pays $5.50 for coffee with no cup. They just put the coffee in my empty cup since it's there anyway and the guy who bought the coffee always decides he doesn't really need it in the first place. Happens almost every day. I'm the luckiest mofo on the planet.

Posted by: b.h.obama at December 11, 2008 03:23 PM (PonvG)

22 lastrick, what training are you talking about at McDs?

I admit, I almost never find an intelligent worker at McDonalds (nor do I at Starbucks).  But they take all the intelligence out of the equation.  The worker doesn't pour your drink... he just enters into a computer, and a machine pours your coffee and additives.  Can't really fuck that up!

Meanwhile, last time I asked for a Medium black coffee at Fourbucks, those assholes didn't understand what I wanted!

Sadly, most of the starbucks in my area have removed the comfortable chairs and lack free wifi.  But free wifi is available at whatever local indie coffee shop is around your area.  I find McDonalds booths (when they aren't filthy, which is never), to be much more comfortable than Starbucks's wooden chairs.

Posted by: Shill at December 11, 2008 03:23 PM (8jYMc)

23 I never get "regular" coffee from Starbucks, anyway. It does taste burned. However, their Peppermint Mocha Latte is something sent from the heavens....

And I very, very rarely go in and sit at the Starbucks. I drive thru on my way somewhere else.

I have noticed, though, that the Starbucks employees are like... supernaturally happy. At least the ones near me are. I'd rather get my $4 latte from a happy guy there than a cheap, gross coffee from the gigantic angry hispanic woman at McD's.

Posted by: AngelEm at December 11, 2008 03:24 PM (+Ql9y)

24 b.h.obama:

I was like... wha?? and then I was like.. oh!

fucking funny

Posted by: Shill at December 11, 2008 03:24 PM (8jYMc)

25 If I don't have time to make coffee at home, I will go to Dunkin DOnuts for coffee.  Their coffee is better than Starbucks and McDonalds combined, though I did briefly boycott DD when they brought on Rachel Ray as their spokesgal

Posted by: sean at December 11, 2008 03:27 PM (3LifV)

26 Angelem: the gigantic angry hispanic woman at McD's.

this is clearly accurate, but do you really find McDonalds's coffee to be inconsistent?  I buy that shit at least 4 times a week, and this month have bought McDonalds coffee is 5 different states... and it always tastes the same and it always tastes good.  I think perhaps you just don't go to McDonalds too often, which is probably for the best since their food isn't super healthy.

They have independent taste tests all the time, and McDonalds wins most of the blind ones, but loses when people know the brand.  I think McDonalds is just synonymous with 'shitty' after years of being shitty so their acceptable product doesn't get a fair chance.  Like Ford.

Posted by: Shill at December 11, 2008 03:28 PM (8jYMc)

27 Sean, I have this sweet plastic coffee press I got at Target.  I throw water and coffee grounds in it, nuke it for 2 minutes, and then put the cap on.  I get to my car about five minutes later and press the filter down and my coffee is good to go.  Sadly, I need McDonalds anyway.

http://www.amazon.com/Bo dum-16-Ounce-Travel-Coffee-Press/dp/B000KA6JGE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=home-ga rden&qid=1229027431&sr=1-1 

I inserted two spaces in that link so teh site wouldn't get pissed, in Bodum and garden.

Posted by: Shill at December 11, 2008 03:31 PM (8jYMc)

28 I love it when snobs get made fun of.

Posted by: Shannon at December 11, 2008 03:31 PM (v4qA1)

29 No, you know what it is? And this is probably going to get me teased mercilessly, but I'll say anyway.

I don't like plain old coffee. I like all the frou-frou stuff that makes it kinda-coffee, maybe kinda-hot chocolate, or, in the summer, kinda-coffee/kinda-milkshake.

McD's iced coffee isn't bad, though. But even that I get with vanilla added in.

So, there you have it. I can't really give a good comparison on "plain" coffee.

Posted by: AngelEm at December 11, 2008 03:32 PM (+Ql9y)

30 AngelEm, that's a pretty good reason to use Starbucks, I have to admit.  And I don't think the price difference is significant anyway.

Starbucks has good hot chocolate, especially when they add peppermint to it. I remember my first time in DC, I had some of that in Dupont circle.  It was a gay old time.

Posted by: Shill at December 11, 2008 03:34 PM (8jYMc)

31

Look I'm still pimping the movie 'Role Models'

Danny: Can I get a large black coffee?

Barista: A what?

Danny: Large black coffee.

Barista: Do you mean a venti?

Danny: No, I mean a large.

Barista: Venti is large.

Danny: No venti is twenty. Large is large. In fact tall is large and grande is spanish for large. Venti is the only one that doesn't mean large. It's also the only one that's Italian. Congratulations, you're stupid in three languages.

Barista: A venti is a large coffee.

Danny: Really says who: Fellini? Do you accept Lira, or is it all Euros now?

Posted by: polynikes at December 11, 2008 03:36 PM (m2CN7)

32

It's pretty easy for a guy.

You buy Starbucks coffee for your girlfriend, and then shop with her at Macy's.

You buy McDonald's coffee for your wife, on your way to Walmart.

Posted by: Roy at December 11, 2008 03:37 PM (cB77O)

33 Having said all that, I will also say that there is not a better breakfast to be found at a drive thru than an Egg McMuffin.

Posted by: AngelEm at December 11, 2008 03:38 PM (+Ql9y)

34 I drive through Starbucks on my way to shop at WalMart.

Posted by: AngelEm at December 11, 2008 03:39 PM (+Ql9y)

35

I'm not sure if I really get McDonald's strategy. People aren't just buying Starbuck's coffee. They're also paying for the right to hang out for an hour or two on a nice chair, which McDonald's isn't offering. Plus, from my experience, Starbucks is a lot friendlier when they catch you masturbating in their bathrooms. Or on line, for that matter.

They tore down an old McDonald's near where I work and built a new style McDonalds.  It is set up with a coffee house type ambiance or so I'm told.  I haven't made it inside but I can tell you that the food still tastes like shit based on a recent run through the drive thru.  The outside does look different though, superfically more tasteful, like a two dollar whore in an expensive dress. 

I've never actually been inside a Starbucks so I haven't had the pleasure of pleasuring myself in one of their bathrooms.  I pleasured myself with a bagel I got at the drive-thru which was ok.  The hooker who blew me later on that day said my dick tasted like blueberry which I took as a complement.  It was kind of weird though since it was a plain bagel.    

Posted by: Big E at December 11, 2008 03:39 PM (uw1/g)

36

Mr Frakypants, you're right that you can't get a pumpkin chai latte with soymilk at McDonalds.

But you can't get french fries at Fourbucks either.

Advantage: Mcdonalds.

You also won't see anyone reading Mao at McDonalds.  I saw that a couple of years ago at Fourbucks.

Also McDonalds's coffee is actually pretty great.  I liked their coffee better before it went 'premium', but their stuff now is pretty damn good and consistent.  Anywhere I go in this huge country, I can always get predictably decent coffee at midnight.

That's a fucking service to civilization.

What you also won't get at McDonalds is some goth reject who couldn't handle the pressure of working at Barnes and Noble trying to force you to use their bullshit coffee language.

"Gimme a medium coffee."

"Is that a grande coffee?"

"No, it's a medium.  'Grande' means large.  I want a medium coffee.  Give me a medium coffee."

"Our sizes are tall, grande and venti.  Would you like a grande coffee."

"Sport, if you try to correct me one more time, I'm going to snatch your throat out like Patrick Swayze in Roadhouse and fuck the gaping neck hole.  Now give me a medium coffee."

"Okay, that's one grande coffee."

Fucking clueless.  The kid at McDonald's just grunts, takes your money and gives you a sullen glare with your change.  That's fucking service, jack.

What I also don't have to see at McDonalds are all the individualists pecking away on their Mac laptops.  Just like everyone else in Starbucks.  And no racks of shitty Paul McCartney CDs, just waiting to jump in your CD player and fill your car with suck.  And no posters of preachy bullshit about the goodness of fair trade coffee and the evils of rain forest depletion, and by the way, have your heard about our clean water initiative.  For some confused teenager teetering on the brink, it's enough to tip him over into the fag column.

If I wanted a cock forced down my throat, I'd commit a felony.  I wouldn't pay four dollars just to be able to wash the taste out of my mouth with shitty coffee.

I don't like Starbucks.

 

 

 


Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 11, 2008 03:39 PM (bu0Ek)

37 If you're going to whack to free internet, I have two words for you:  Public Library.

Its constitutionally protected.

Posted by: toby928 at December 11, 2008 03:40 PM (PD1tk)

38

Life explained in a nutshell by Roy.

Posted by: Veeshir at December 11, 2008 03:42 PM (zXUuJ)

39

That's so damned smart advertising right there.

Might be time to buy some Mcdonald's stock.

Posted by: Warden at December 11, 2008 03:44 PM (QoR4a)

40 We could be having this comparison over lots of things:

Walmart vs Target
Big lots vs Pottery barn
Hentai tentacle porn vs Manga

...lots of things.

Posted by: Toad at December 11, 2008 03:45 PM (ezxO9)

41 37-
Plus the frightening old women in the library know what 'venti' and 'grande' mean.
But if you sneak an egg mcmuffin in, they'll slap you silly.

Posted by: WonderWartHog at December 11, 2008 03:46 PM (LVT6e)

42 This is a great thread.  It really epitomizes the Ace of Spades community.

Roy, Empire of Jeff, Big E... these are some cockholsters who will be lined up against the wall and shot one day by Obama's change.gov brownshirts, but they are my cockholsters.

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 11, 2008 03:47 PM (8jYMc)

43 Gay midget porn vs... umm there really is no comparison

Posted by: chemjeff at December 11, 2008 03:48 PM (wy+AE)

44 Jeff @ 36: I'm memorizing that for the next time I go into Starbucks.  Which is never.

Posted by: chemjeff at December 11, 2008 03:50 PM (wy+AE)

45 Stiletto heels and thigh highs vs. fuck-me boots...

Compare THAT.

Posted by: AngelEm at December 11, 2008 03:53 PM (+Ql9y)

46 No there isn't chemjeff, Gay midget porn is the odd man out in the great musical chairs game that is this life.

Posted by: Toad at December 11, 2008 03:53 PM (RI2Iy)

47

It's the Chicago way, hit em where it hurts.

I was in Hong Kong TWO summers ago and they already have the new McD's with the coffee area.  They are killing them over there.  You also can skip ahead of the line to get in the coffee line.

Short Starbucks.

Kemp

Posted by: kempermanx at December 11, 2008 03:53 PM (qvT/A)

48 "What I also don't have to see at McDonalds are all the individualists pecking away on their Mac laptops. Just like everyone else in Starbucks."
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 11, 2008 03:39 PM (bu0Ek)

This has got to be one of the weakest reasons to hate Starbucks. You don't like the flavor (cf. burnt), you think the baristas are snobs, the coffee overpriced, fine. You move on to a different place, that's how a free market works. But don't hate the fellow consumers that, just like you, drive the market. Besides, that "individualist" beside you could be a classically liberal (conservative) like me "pecking away" at his dissertation in engineering -- I'm certainly no confused teenager moved by scams like bottled water or saving the rain forest.

Watch the broad brush.

Posted by: LastRick at December 11, 2008 03:57 PM (PA57O)

49

Bye the way, McD buys their coffee from a coffee company in Concord NC. Standard Coffee, owned by a VERY conservative family!

Advantage McD

But, the hot MILF's at my local fourbucks are pretty awesome.  I always wonder how many hook up at the bucks after the kids go to school and daddy is downtown? 

Advatange fourbucks.

Kemp

Posted by: kempermanx at December 11, 2008 03:58 PM (qvT/A)

50 lastrick, my mom is no left winger and loves to chill at starbucks, but if you also do that, you surely have noticed that a lot of these places collect idiots who are worthy of disgust.

Not everybody in a starbucks is a Mao reader, but man there are plenty of those folks.  It's cool that people like that have a place to hang out, I guess, and I do find it amusing that they are all playing right into a corporation's hands.

Posted by: Shill at December 11, 2008 04:00 PM (8jYMc)

51 I made up that last part.

While I realize that we morons need to have these things explicitly pointed out to us, it was more fun when you left us guessing a bit the "may have".

Posted by: kbiel at December 11, 2008 04:03 PM (HAib+)

52 Stiletto heels and thigh highs vs. fuck-me boots...

Compare THAT.

Wait.  Who's wearing them, you or me?

Posted by: wiserbud at December 11, 2008 04:07 PM (IHbof)

53 I have noticed, though, that the Starbucks employees are like... supernaturally happy.

I think that they issue MDMA tabs with the aprons.

Yeah, the venti=large thing is pretty funny. I do that anytime I hit 'bucks. Usually, the barista doesn't miss a beat, but you occasionally get a real dumbass.

The locals are way cooler though. In my experience, the smaller the company, the more comfortable the chairs (try reading a book at Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf, the tables are only about 16 inches wide). One of our locals actually has sofas and a fireplace, plus the free wifi.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 11, 2008 04:13 PM (InMdt)

54 I'm torn in this discussion because lib cocksuckers hate both McD's and Starbucks so by definition I have to be for them.  Plus a cool dood that used to work at the Starbucks across the street from where I worked used to give me free pounds of Italian Roast since they get them gratis and he didn't really want 'em.  Hard for me to complain about their prices.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 11, 2008 04:14 PM (ougKX)

55

This has got to be one of the weakest reasons to hate Starbucks. You don't like the flavor (cf. burnt), you think the baristas are snobs, the coffee overpriced, fine. You move on to a different place, that's how a free market works. But don't hate the fellow consumers that, just like you, drive the market. Besides, that "individualist" beside you could be a classically liberal (conservative) like me "pecking away" at his dissertation in engineering -- I'm certainly no confused teenager moved by scams like bottled water or saving the rain forest.

Watch the broad brush.

I'm a hater, LastRick.  It's what I do.  Might as well show your annoyance at the sun rising in the east, or water being wet.  I'll get you another copy of that memo. 

I'm also a restaurant owner, so when it comes to hating on consumers,  I've come by it honestly.  There's also going to be some collateral damage. 

I did a dinner for a board meeting of a physician's group last night.  One female doctor shows up 90 minutes late, so we're trying to move things along with her, because everyone else is ready for dessert and are waiting on her.  After looking at the menu for a full ten minutes, she informs us that she is a vegetarian and can we make something different.  Sure, lady, here you go.   She takes two bites, puts her fork down and asks us to make it to go, after taking forty-five minutes to take those two bites.  The other folks were too gentlemanly to either ask her to hurry it the fuck up or ask us to go ahead and serve us dessert ahead of her.  It also meant I got home an hour later than I otherwise would have.

Now, at this point I can reflect on my appreciation at having her patronage.  After all, she did pay for her meal, and I use that money to pay bills.  And hey, she's a doctor and does many good works, healing the sick.

Or, I could fantasize about her hitting a cow with her car on the way home, flying through the windshield, and impaling her vegetarian ass on the horns.  Cause of death?  Beef, motherfucker. 

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 11, 2008 04:19 PM (bu0Ek)

56 Beef, motherfucker.
Holy shit. Wow.  Committing to memory.

Posted by: MSM at December 11, 2008 04:23 PM (XnuxH)

57 Wait.  Who's wearing them, you or me?

Well, I was thinking a woman would be wearing them, not men. NTTAWWT.

Posted by: AngelEm at December 11, 2008 04:28 PM (+Ql9y)

58 Or, I could fantasize about her hitting a cow with her car on the way home, flying through the windshield, and impaling her vegetarian ass on the horns.  Cause of death?  Beef, motherfucker.

Holy shit.  BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

Posted by: AngelEm at December 11, 2008 04:29 PM (+Ql9y)

59 This isn't about the coffee anymore.

Posted by: Eleven at December 11, 2008 04:29 PM (7DB+a)

60 E of J,
Hope you saw footage of the running of the bulls a few years back.  A bull ran right path all the fools in their white outfits with red scarves and tossed an animal rights Pest.  Proof not only that there is a God, but that he has a great sense of humor.

Posted by: WonderWartHog at December 11, 2008 04:30 PM (LVT6e)

61

I'm not sure if I really get McDonald's strategy.

Guessing here: McDonald's real competitor in coffee is Dunkin Donuts. These anti-Starbucks ads resonate with Dunkin's customers, too -- so maybe a guy will see this billboard on his way to Dunkin and agree with it and change his mind and get his coffee at McDonald's some day.

(Starbucks has the most loyal customer base in the country. No billboard is going to get those people to go to a McD.)

Posted by: FireHorse at December 11, 2008 04:30 PM (5KNeJ)

62

They're also paying for the right to hang out for an hour or two on a nice chair,

I dunno. The local McDonald's here in El Cajon, CA (suburb of San Diego - not a very classy one at that, it's East County, Bro) has a wide screen TV, lounge chairs, computers, wifi, etc... Plus you can get French Fries. Just try getting French Fries at Starbucks.

Posted by: Cindy at December 11, 2008 04:31 PM (WUEDb)

63

By the way, whatever happened to Mayor McCheese? Anyone remember when McDonaldland was run by a duly elected civilian official? Now, every time I see a McDonald's with a playpark, there's Big Mac, the chief law enforcement officer, watching everything that everybody does -- but no Mayor McCheese.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 11, 2008 04:34 PM (5KNeJ)

64 I think Mayor McCheese eventually became Governor McHairhelmet.

Posted by: kiffen at December 11, 2008 04:36 PM (XnuxH)

65 There is no force on earth that would get me to "hang out" at McDonald's - at least not the ones near me.  They're nice enough, I suppose, but good god, the indoor kids' play area... it's like trying to have lunch in the monkey house.  Minus the shit-throwing.  Usually.

They should see about putting that play area in a soundproofed basement or something (and I say this as a mom of three kids).

Posted by: AngelEm at December 11, 2008 04:36 PM (+Ql9y)

66 Firehorse, actually, a lot of starbucks customers are not showing up, so they must not be very loyal.  Starbucks has lost 99% of its profitability in the last year.  Not an exaggeration.

Meanwhile, McDs is picking up a ton of customers from somewhere!

Cindy, that McDonalds in San Diego in the NBC building with the automatic piano is prettttty sweet.  Ever been there?

Posted by: Shill at December 11, 2008 04:38 PM (8jYMc)

67 Stiletto heels and thigh highs vs. fuck-me boots...

Compare THAT.

Posted by: AngelEm at December 11, 2008 03:53 PM (+Ql9y)

Well ok,  but I'm going to require:

1. At least three separate models for comparison.  That's models wearing them not models of the shoes

2. Charts graphs diagrams

3. $10 million federal grant.

2 and 3 are optional though.

Posted by: buzzion at December 11, 2008 04:39 PM (Lrsi6)

68

By the way, whatever happened to Mayor McCheese? Anyone remember when McDonaldland was run by a duly elected civilian official? Now, every time I see a McDonald's with a playpark, there's Big Mac, the chief law enforcement officer, watching everything that everybody does -- but no Mayor McCheese.

I believe he is laying low due to a scandal involving a hotel room and a young McNugget.

Posted by: buzzion at December 11, 2008 04:41 PM (Lrsi6)

69 I also stopped at the 'World's Largest McDonalds' near the Oklahoma and Missouri border on my drive home from St Louis the day after the recent election (I was dealing with voter fraud in Missouri).

Worst fucking coffee I have ever had, but it was sold by some independent stand lady, not McDonalds.  The Mcdonalds was built OVER the interstate and had a couple of extra shops in it.  Like most McDonalds it was filthy, but I hardly ever actually enter one so I don't care.  Just sucked that it didn't have McDonalds coffee (which I picked up in Tulsa).

Posted by: Shill at December 11, 2008 04:42 PM (8jYMc)

70 I agree that this is an actual play for the Dunkin Donuts crowd. And let's not forget the awesome Fritalian ads Dunkin did awhile back.

I go to Starbucks because I can't get chai at McDonald's. Of course, I can at Sheetz. Not to mention a french toast sausage sammich. Oh Sheetz, how do I love thee, let me count the ways.

Stiletto heels and thigh highs vs. fuck-me boots...

Now that's a question for the ages. Though I am terribly fond of these.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 11, 2008 04:49 PM (SHHaV)

71

Speaking of the McDonalds governmental hierarchy, what the fuck is Grimace?  Every other character has an analogue that you can find in any McDonalds - a couple of burgers and even an asshole who doesn't want to pay his bill.  I get that.

But Grimace is just a purple blob of shit.  Where is the real-world counterpart to this giant shit blob, and in which food item is it secreted?  (or rather, from which food item is it secreted?)

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 11, 2008 04:50 PM (bu0Ek)

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Starbucks is a lot friendlier when they catch you masturbating in their bathrooms. Or on line, for that matter.

Zing!

Posted by: mike d at December 11, 2008 04:54 PM (91OXS)

73 E o J, I thought Grimace was just Ronald's enemy.  But they do have grape jelly there.  He could be the little blobs in those McGriddle biscuits that taste like maple!

Posted by: Shill at December 11, 2008 04:55 PM (8jYMc)

74

What the fuck is Grimace? 

Grimace was introduced back when McDonaldland was a democracy. Then known as Evil Grimace, it craved McDonald's shakes.

So the first question is: What the fuck is a McDonald's shake? A Grimace is just something that naturally consumes those.

(Later on, Grimace's uncle came over from Ireland and slapped some sense into that fat purple touchhole.)

Posted by: FireHorse at December 11, 2008 05:00 PM (5KNeJ)

75

But Grimace is just a purple blob of shit.  Where is the real-world counterpart to this giant shit blob, and in which food item is it secreted?  (or rather, from which food item is it secreted?)

Michael Moore?

Posted by: Warden at December 11, 2008 05:02 PM (QoR4a)

76 Except that McDonald's doesn't actually sell any of the drinks that cost $4 at Starbucks.

They have espresso, it's just not as good as Starbucks.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 11, 2008 05:05 PM (PQY7w)

77 Grimace is the species they grind up for their patties.

You don't think they're made out of beef do you?

Posted by: rinseandspit at December 11, 2008 05:11 PM (ao5cQ)

78 Don't know why everyone has to get so offended over the coffee.  I like both coffees.  I get McD's when I'm in the mood for their coffee (more mild but still tastes good) and I get Starbuck's when I'm in the mood for something a bit more stiff.  Most people I know who hate Starbuck's don't like strong coffee.  I do.  It's not like religion or politics.  It's okay if we like different coffees.  Geez people, get a grip.

Posted by: katya at December 11, 2008 05:16 PM (oRJZj)

79

Anyone remember when Homer beat the shit out the Hamburgler when he stole a burger at the opening of the Krustyburger.

Posted by: Pablo Honey at December 11, 2008 05:17 PM (CkFXK)

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Anywhere I go in this huge country, I can always get predictably decent coffee at midnight

It all tastes like crap when you've got a non-coffee drinker brewing it.  People who don't drink coffee don't understand it.

Posted by: katya at December 11, 2008 05:20 PM (oRJZj)

81

But they do have grape jelly there.

Shill, you've cracked the code, old boy!  All we need are Ronald McDonald's prison records to place him in lockup at the same time Hamburglar was serving his sentence.  Think about it: 

When Ronald McDonald got rolled into General Population as a new fish, Hamburglar traded a carton of smokes for him.

Grimace is what he smeared on his ass when he made Ronald toss his salad.

Enjoy your dinner, sir.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 11, 2008 05:24 PM (bu0Ek)

82 alexthechick -- you in or near Pennsylvania? I was raised properly by my father: loving Sheetz. In fact, there was a Sheetz across the corner from my house growing up. I love it, my Dad loves it (especially the one where you can buy beer), and now my kids love it too.

Posted by: mr.frakypants at December 11, 2008 05:34 PM (pffBj)

83 So the first question is: What the fuck is a McDonald's shake?

Don't get caught eating a McFlurry while in the company of foul-mouthed blue collar guys. You'll never live it down.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 11, 2008 05:35 PM (InMdt)

84

Purple blob of shit? 

Ted Kennedy

 

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Posted by: FireHorse at December 11, 2008 05:36 PM (5KNeJ)

86 Katya, next time you're in a Mcdonalds, ask them how they make coffee.  They press a button.

McDonalds is a pioneer in automating everything.   I think they are still trying to make a restaurant where everything is cooked by machines and one employee pretty much makes sure it doesn't self destruct.

There's a reason McDs coffee generally tastes the same every day everywhere.  It's soulless machine made coffee with absolutely no variables.  I love boring!

Empire of Jeff, that explains why McD's grape jelly tastes like shit and I always find it on my cockholster!

Posted by: Shill at December 11, 2008 05:39 PM (8jYMc)

87 Mayor McCheese was client #4

Posted by: toby928 at December 11, 2008 05:44 PM (PD1tk)

88 McDonalds still burns their coffee, and serves it at 200+ degrees.  Tastes awful, and burns your tongue every time.  That's kind of dumb, too, isn't it?

Posted by: connertown at December 11, 2008 05:49 PM (lhJxs)

89  Connertown, they do have that roast flavor now.  I didn't like it when they switched from normal coffee to starbuckian coffee, but I got used to it and it's pretty good for what it is.

Now, they do kinda serve it hot (about 190, I think), which is the same temp you get from a Mr. Coffee.  I sometimes have a piece of ice or two thrown in there, but otherwise I just cowgirl up and drink that shit.

I don't know why, but it seems like most coffee places (starbucks included) serve coffee too hot to drink.  Anyone know why?

BECAUSE OF GEORGE W BUSH.

Posted by: Shill at December 11, 2008 05:52 PM (8jYMc)

90 If it's all about hanging out in a big chair for an hour, go to Barns and Nobles.

If it's about how the coffee tastes, home brew is the best.

If its about free webbernet, go to work, sit in your chair with a cup of home brew.

Problem solved.

Posted by: kim in vancouver at December 11, 2008 06:05 PM (lzBKU)

91 alexthechick -- you in or near Pennsylvania?

Yup.  We just got our Sheetz a few years ago and I think it's fantastic. 

Posted by: alexthechick at December 11, 2008 06:13 PM (xUOXi)

92 If it's all about hanging out in a big chair for an hour, go to Barns and Nobles.

What about the Barnes & Nobles that have the Starbucks inside?!  I loooooove that.

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93

I go to the Starbucks in Atwater Village (Los Angeles) because the leftards hate it and hang out in some dingy "indie" shop full of screenwriter wannabes.

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Compare THAT.

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Posted by: kbdabear at December 11, 2008 06:45 PM (miw86)

94

I am not a coffee connoisseur, but I do drink alot of it.  In addition to daily homebrew, I go to Speedway almost every day.  Fine selection of coffee/decent price/tastes good.

There is a 50's style McD's which I go to every few days.  LOVE that place.  Again, good coffee, slightly more expensive.  In the summer the parking lot is always filled with classic cars/hot rods.

I do not care for StarBucks.  Their coffee is good but overpriced.  The place strikes me as as a bit ostentatious.

Also, hat tip to #70 alexthechick.  If you ever visit the West side of the Middle East (Dearborn)  look me up.  I would be very interested in seeing you model those while we cruise to my old 'hood and chase hobos for their Val-u-Rite. 

Posted by: sirsurfalot at December 11, 2008 07:10 PM (Czvjx)

95 Hey! Lego my Lesbo!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 11, 2008 07:21 PM (H7gPM)

96

Wow. 

An ass whipping:   Humiliating.

An ass whipping in front of a crowd.  More humiliating.

Having your metrosexual, vaseline intensive care soft hands having ass whipped in front of the nation by Ronald F. McDonald:   Humiliatum Maximus.

Posted by: LFMayor at December 11, 2008 07:55 PM (Ge7CK)

97

85 OK. Now what about Captain Crook? Did he join up with Somali pirates to get his Filet-O-Fish? Was he killed in action? Hung from the yardarm? Or is he rotting in some secret prison in eastern Europe?

You'll have to watch the season premier of "24" next month to find out...

"The following happens between 6:00 AM and 7:00 AM...."

 

Posted by: kbdabear at December 11, 2008 08:45 PM (miw86)

98 I donno what you guys are talking about with this so called free wifi. I had an occasion where I needed to do some work at a Starbucks in Northern Virginia and the bastards charged 4 dollars an hour for some ATT internet thingie.

Posted by: Dkshideler at December 11, 2008 09:57 PM (83iEc)

99 "Diana Krall.  Let's keep the mockery at the highest level."

Ace isn't capable of high-level mockery, as he is pretty fucking stupid.  You must be a new reader.

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100 I prefer McDonalds cheese burgers and fries,coke as well as milk and cookies to any puke past that PETA,PCRM and CSPI would force on us and SCREW RALPH NADER HE SUCKS and so dose MORGAN SPURLOCK

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"Starbucks is a lot friendlier when they catch you masturbating in their bathrooms."

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