US Attorney Blagojevich Press Conference Now Is Over

Expect all the networks to carry and stream online. I'll put up updates as they come along.

Apparently they bugged his campaign office and tapped his home phone. They have all of this 'pay to play' stuff on tape.

The government says he wanted a $50K kickback from the CEO of a children's hospital that received state money. When the kickback didn't show up, he tried to have the funding pulled from the hospital.

Classy guy.

Blagojevich wanted to have Tribune editors who were critical of him in exchange for state support for tax credits.

He wanted a cabinet post or an ambassadorship and a job for his wife in exchange for nominating a particular person to Obama's Senate seat.

Fitzgerald says Obama was not involved in any negotiations.

Wow, this isn't some sort of complicated scheme, it's just hardball give to get.

Now Fitz is asking people who may have been approached by Blagojevich before the taps went in to come forward...so there maybe more to come.

FBI Agent in Charge of Chicago says 'it's a new low for Illinois', that's saying something. "If it (Illinois) isn't the most corrupt state, it's certainly one hell of a competitor". Says his agents were shocked and sickened by what they heard.

Fitz says there's a bills sitting on the Governor's desk that was the subject of a bribe and they wanted to get Blagojevich out before he could act of them. That's part of the reason for the timing of the indictments.

Wow, just wow.

Fitz says he isn't going to suggest whether Blago should resign or be impeached. He is still governor and could still appoint Obama's successor.

Interesting the Trib had a story on this ready to go before the wiretaps and bug were ready to go but held the story after Fitz asked them to hold off. So the Trib held off publishing a story they are a part of. I think in general it's the right thing to do but they held off when they had something at stake as well. Interesting ethics case study for future J-school classes.

At this point Fitz says they are charging 'conspiracy to commit a crime' and not acting on it. Yet. They are still trying to find out if any of these schemes came to fruition. Even if they haven't they still think they have him on conspiracy, which will get you tossed in jail just as much as actually doing the crime.

Fitz doesn't know if Obama was told about the investigation as part of his normal briefings. He was pretty flustered trying to answer that one. Can't wait to see what Obama says about this.

Well, that's over. Damn. If half that shit is true (and it's apparently all on tape), that's just off the charts.

Posted by: DrewM. at 12:11 PM



Comments

1 I wonder how long they sat on this?
It would be pretty interesting to know. Same thing with the Obama/Rezko thing.
(Yeah, I know Fitz is working there now, but as ace noted, not anywhere, apparently, where he could damage the Lamb Of Chicago.)

Posted by: jdub at December 09, 2008 12:16 PM (t9pKb)

2
3 governors in jail in 35 years is the cesspool from which Obama was sprung upon us

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at December 09, 2008 12:18 PM (lhxhu)

3 Orgasm Count: 3

Posted by: runninrebel at December 09, 2008 12:18 PM (0n9wc)

4 Oh Mama!

Posted by: Mr. Pissed at December 09, 2008 12:18 PM (KZKfb)

5 4

Posted by: runninrebel at December 09, 2008 12:18 PM (0n9wc)

6 Bof A snickers.

Posted by: pajama momma at December 09, 2008 12:19 PM (dzrRD)

7 Sothe FBI bugged and wiretapped a US citizen's work and home phone? Holy crap! I thought they couldn't do that anymore.

Posted by: EC at December 09, 2008 12:19 PM (mAhn3)

8
I'm eagerly awaiting Seattle Slough's and icus' spin on this.

Come on, you two cocksuckers, let's hear your bullshit.

Posted by: Bart at December 09, 2008 12:20 PM (wfDKk)

9 I'd leave a length of rope in his cell, so he can decide to do the right thing.

Posted by: Roy at December 09, 2008 12:21 PM (cB77O)

10
I'd leave a length of rope in his cell, so he can decide to do the right thing.

Fuck no. The longer he stays at the graybar hilton, the more he'll sing on the other Chicago corruptocrats.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 09, 2008 12:23 PM (sG+oj)

11 Sothe FBI bugged and wiretapped a US citizen's work and home phone? Holy crap!

This is exactly what the liberals were trying to warn us about.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 09, 2008 12:24 PM (DVVXZ)

12 I'd leave a length of rope in his cell, so he can decide to do the right thing.

Yeah, we'll "leave" one. That's it. Vince Foster style...

Posted by: the one at December 09, 2008 12:24 PM (zl17B)

13 5

Posted by: jdub at December 09, 2008 12:24 PM (t9pKb)

14 For a wiretap it takes a Federal Court order, which meant they had probable cause, but then again, probable cause is needed for any warrant.

Posted by: dragonlady474 at December 09, 2008 12:25 PM (qiCGV)

15
I'm glad I've never been to Chicago. To hell with that cess pool. I've always hated their fucking cutesy We-Love-Al-Capone attitude they have toward this shit. Laugh it off fuck-sticks. The whole fucking state is a fucking embarrassment to the country.

Posted by: Dang at December 09, 2008 12:25 PM (Y5LIx)

16 Present!

Posted by: President Elect Barack H. Obama Jr. at December 09, 2008 12:26 PM (9p0nw)

17
My advice to Blagojevich: Admit to a drinking problem and say that you were molested by a priest when you were a boy.

Posted by: Bart at December 09, 2008 12:26 PM (wfDKk)

18 So how long before the one says he'll pardon Blago?
I'd love to see Obama indicted before the inauguration. The chaos would be unbelievably entertaining.

Posted by: Iblis at December 09, 2008 12:27 PM (9221z)

19
Is this guy Patrick Fitzgerald a shithead, or what?

He tries to be clever and cute during his press conferences.

Posted by: Bart at December 09, 2008 12:27 PM (wfDKk)

20 Isn't it amazing how all of this Chicago corruption is finally getting revealed & smacked down now (4 weeks after the election)?

Wow! Maybe those rainbows & unicorn farts are starting to work.

Posted by: Che Pizza at December 09, 2008 12:28 PM (SPSOE)

21 Not sure if I should be outraged that this comes out a month after the election or if I should yawn knowing that this is just how things are done in Chicago.
Decisions, decisions.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at December 09, 2008 12:29 PM (C2//T)

22 Chicago politics enjoy the reputation they have for good reason. Sure, the state capitol is in Springfield (home of the Simpsons), but all the power is in Chicago. This is the city that gave us Al Capone, Richard Daley, Sam Giancano, and delivered the 1960 Presidential race to JFK. If the local politicians and state politicians are this corrupt, is there any reason to think their senators are any less?

Posted by: conservative rebel at December 09, 2008 12:30 PM (T4dLI)

23 I'd love to see Obama indicted before the inauguration. The chaos would be unbelievably entertaining.
Chicago could use a good burning. Sweet, riotous, purifying fire.

Posted by: Dang at December 09, 2008 12:30 PM (Y5LIx)

24 Fitzgerald and his men are slicing like an army of fucking hammers.

And Che Pizza...this indictment happened right now precisely because Blago was accelerating the pace of his corruption in the wake of Obama's election. Particularly the sale of his Senate seat: before the election it wasn't "ripe" (obviously) and if Fitz had waited any longer it might have been too late - Blago would have made his appointment.

My god, Blagojevich comes off as such a thug.

Posted by: Jeff B. at December 09, 2008 12:30 PM (OEoRy)

25 "Fitzgerald says Obama was not involved in any negotiations. "

Some one forgot to tell ABC News http://tinyurl.com/5npgtd
"FBI affidavit said Blagojevich had been told by an adviser "the President-elect can get ROD BLAGOJEVICH's wife on paid corporate boards in exchange for naming the President-elect's pick to the Senate."

Posted by: Javems at December 09, 2008 12:32 PM (hq71Y)

26 My god, Blagojevich comes off as such a thug.

I really like that part about him wanting his critics at the Chicago Tribune fired. I can't wait to see what they write! They're probably dipping their balls in newspaper ink right now.

Posted by: Dang at December 09, 2008 12:34 PM (Y5LIx)

27
Impeachment procedures in the Illinois legislature should begin forthwith, no?

Posted by: Bart at December 09, 2008 12:35 PM (wfDKk)

28 "They're probably dipping their balls in newspaper ink right now."
And by some odd coincidence, that's precisely what I was doing last night.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at December 09, 2008 12:35 PM (1ucvq)

29 The Chicago press is bunch of idiots. They're asking the US Attorney to comment on matters they know he has no control over and would be inappropriate to provide comment about. The USA doesn't make Illinois law. The USA doesn't have any say or influence in regards to impeachment. Yet these press folks keep on asking him.

Don't they know Fitzgerald by now. He's the Tom f'n Brady of US Attorneys.

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at December 09, 2008 12:36 PM (AHrTm)

30 I'm not buying the Fitz is Golden here. It's total BS to believe Blag
just came up with this deal on his own from media reports Jarret wanted
the job. The only people pushing Jarret was the SEIU. Why? She isn't
related to them in any manner.

They were doing it at Obama's
request. The SEIU came up with the deal without consulting Obama. When
he heard the deal he probably was insulted, thinking he should just be
able to name his successor, people don't dictate terms to Obama. It was
too naked a deal too. Instead of taking it they went to Fitz. I mean
the Democrats control everything in Illinois, state and federal. The
judges were practically jumping through hoops for this investigation.
This was a major push by all the Dems to get Blag out prior to the
appointment. If they wanted to they could have dragged this out for
years. It was the right thing to do but Fitz would never have done it
so quickly without the SEIU coming forward. He knows what this is
about.

Throughout the indictment Blag is responding to a deal,
trying to get the most he can. Why would he be negotiating hard if he
put the offer out?
He is responding to the offer from Stern and SEIU.
Blag
is already on tape discussing this deal on 11/3, prior to any pushing
of Jarret in the media. The pushing was to add legitimacy to a Jarret
appointment, not solicit one. There had better be SEIU people going
down with Blag that's for sure.

Posted by: Rocks at December 09, 2008 12:36 PM (Q1lie)

31 So who's the Lt. Gov there? Some other Dem crook?

Posted by: that guy at December 09, 2008 12:36 PM (zl17B)

32 This just in: CNN finally gets around to party affiliation.

Posted by: EC at December 09, 2008 12:37 PM (mAhn3)

33 I really like that part about him wanting his critics at the Chicago Tribune fired. I can't wait to see what they write! They're probably dipping their balls in newspaper ink right now.
I bet they're going "Whoa you can't make this shit up."

Posted by: Kaitian at December 09, 2008 12:37 PM (/zEk+)

34 If IL would hurry up and impeach him, Blago could become the new Car Czar.

Posted by: Bugler at December 09, 2008 12:38 PM (YCVBL)

35 Is it just me, or is this by far the worst political corruption scandal in living memory? George Ryan's driver's license scheme was terrible (because it indirectly led to the deaths of people killed by unqualified drivers), but was ultimately petty graft. And this shit makes William "Cold Cash" Jefferson or Ted Stevens or Rostenkowski (from back in 1994) look like child's play. Spitzer banging hookers? Feh. This level of corruption: thuggish threats against the Trib, shakedowns of Children's Hospital, bribery, and the ATTEMPT TO SELL THE SENATE SEAT OUTRIGHT...I can't think of anything this bad in recent memory. This is downright Nixonian.

Posted by: Jeff B. at December 09, 2008 12:39 PM (OEoRy)

36
No hookers?


Posted by: Elliot Spitzer at December 09, 2008 12:39 PM (wfDKk)

37 http://tinyurl.com/62wubu

Chicago Tribune delayed stories about the investigation at the request of the US Attorney's Office.

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at December 09, 2008 12:39 PM (AHrTm)

38 OMG!!!!
CNN just edited their BREAKING NEWS story I linked to in #32 and removed the word "Democratic" from the first paragraph in describing Blagojevich.
Fuck you CNN! Fuck you sideways with a broomstick!

Posted by: EC at December 09, 2008 12:40 PM (mAhn3)

39 And by some odd coincidence, that's precisely what I was doing last night. - Andrew Sullivan

I know. And this is not washing off.

Posted by: Barney Frank's puckerless pucker at December 09, 2008 12:40 PM (Y5LIx)

40 They're probably dipping their balls in newspaper ink right now.

Well, they might as well use it for something. It's not like they're running low at the printing plant.

Posted by: Fresh Air at December 09, 2008 12:40 PM (meVfb)

41 Chicago could use a good burning. Sweet, riotous, purifying fire.

Damnit! How many times do I have clean up after you monkeys?

Posted by: Mrs. O'Leary's Cow at December 09, 2008 12:41 PM (HAib+)

42 I'm glad I've never been to Chicago. To hell with that cess pool.
I love chicago, might just be that I'm from the environs, but Chicago ain't like NY orLA or SF. There's no gloss, it just is what it is. It's corrupt, it's filthy, 3 of the 4 people you come across are so arrogantly obnoxious you wanna punch them in the face, but chicago doesn't try to be anything but chicago.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 12:41 PM (ul7te)

43 "FBI affidavit said Blagojevich had been told by an adviser "the
President-elect can get ROD BLAGOJEVICH's wife on paid corporate boards
in exchange for naming the President-elect's pick to the Senate."

This doesn't necessarily mean that Obama knew about it. It's unclear from the context but Blago and his guys may been merely discussing what to ask for.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 09, 2008 12:42 PM (DVVXZ)

44 Never mind. CNN just updated their homepage with "Democratic" in their lead story.
Let's see if that changes.

Posted by: EC at December 09, 2008 12:42 PM (mAhn3)

45 Merry Fitzmas, Morons!

I just hope this ends up with The Fresh Prez of Bill Ayers getting Frogmarched as well.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at December 09, 2008 12:42 PM (yxquq)

46 Posted by: Jeff B. at December 09, 2008 12:39 PM (OEoRy)

Pretty much. Short of something involving a person's death, this seems to be about as bad as it gets.

Posted by: DrewM. at December 09, 2008 12:42 PM (hlYel)

47 Chicago Chicago my kink of town.

Posted by: Scum bags at December 09, 2008 12:42 PM (RNwpX)

48 Merry Fitzmas!

Posted by: PalinFan at December 09, 2008 12:43 PM (IzUmo)

49 heh

Posted by: Lou at December 09, 2008 12:43 PM (RNwpX)

50 Fitzgerald says Obama was not involved in any negotiations.


Don't take away my HOPE! Pravda is now breathlessly asking Fitzgerald about the Messiah.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 09, 2008 12:44 PM (SX1Hh)

51 I wonder how this will go down. Some of the articles I've seen say that there's still a chance G-Rod gets to appoint Obama's replacement.

What if he names himself? We all know how often corrupt Senators go to jail. Oh, wait, they don't.

Posted by: Hal at December 09, 2008 12:44 PM (tCm8g)

52 We all know how often corrupt Senators go to jail. Oh, wait, they don't.
Nope. They get elected president.
Not an exaggeration, either. Remember Michelle Obama's mysterious raise?

Posted by: jdub at December 09, 2008 12:45 PM (t9pKb)

53 #44. Dang - we almost got some ...

Posted by: Persons at CNN with interesting ... ITYKWIM at December 09, 2008 12:48 PM (wJlIy)

54
Holy shit did you hear that question!!!

Posted by: Bart at December 09, 2008 12:48 PM (wfDKk)

55 what was the question? at work...vid. blocked...

Posted by: Jess at December 09, 2008 12:49 PM (Lh1qk)

56 Blag still gets to make the appointment, until they impeach him anyway. He can still hold out for a deal using the threat. If he wanted to be a real rpick he could appoint someone he hates or Jarret. They would never be seated by the senate and it would kill them in any special election for the seat.
Nobody wants to be Blag's pick now that's for sure, but he still has a pick.

Posted by: Rocks at December 09, 2008 12:49 PM (Q1lie)

57 I'd like to point out that Sarah Palin just doesn't have the smarts, guts, judgment,or mental horsepower to pull off this type of Gubernatorial activity.
and Todd Palin wouldn't say "fuck" unless he hit a moosewhile travelling 30 mph on a snow machine ... and there were no children present.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at December 09, 2008 12:50 PM (8WOzU)

58
Who asked that?

Who was that? I need to know his name.

For those who missed it, a reporter asked if the F.B.I. breaking into the governor's office and wiretapping the governor was any different than Watergate.

Posted by: Bart at December 09, 2008 12:51 PM (wfDKk)

59 Nobody wants to be Blag's pick now that's for sure

This has me giggling inside like a Japanese schoolgirl selling her panties.

Posted by: CUS at December 09, 2008 12:51 PM (+p7v2)

60
Obama just may squeak out of this one. Looks like Blag-the-Corruptor was pissed that Obama was wanting his senate pick for nothing. Or maybe Obama has a mole in the FBI that warned him about the wire taps...

Posted by: Dang at December 09, 2008 12:52 PM (Y5LIx)

61 If I was as small and petty as blago seems to be (even though he has a good life and I'm a miserable cretin, I'm a much bigger man than this midget balkin bitch)
If I were as small and petty as blago I would be on the phone right now with jack ryan.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 12:52 PM (ul7te)

62 Don't take away my HOPE! Pravda is now breathlessly asking Fitzgerald about the Messiah.

That is the gray cloud for me the fear Obama is going to walk away as an unscathed lightworker. No matter who falls around him he remains untouched.

Posted by: Long Island at December 09, 2008 12:52 PM (F/5qw)

63 Posted by: Rocks at December 09, 2008 12:49 PM (Q1lie)

The Senate won't seat someone appointed by Blagojevich at this point. Also, no one would take it, they'd never get out from under the cloud. I'm guessing that's why Fitz went public.

Posted by: DrewM. at December 09, 2008 12:53 PM (hlYel)

64
Fitz doesn't know if Obama was told about the investigation as part of his normal briefings.

Of course he knew, they would never have dropped Jarret otherwise.
She's like Obama's BFF.

Posted by: Rocks at December 09, 2008 12:53 PM (Q1lie)

65 The government says he wanted a $50K kickback from the CEO of a children's hospital
And you people think my job was just a $300k a year cakewalk! Ha! There was all the graft and corruption to take care of.

Posted by: Michelle O. at December 09, 2008 12:54 PM (jiY3V)

66

The FBI affidavit said Blagojevich had been told by an adviser "the
President-elect can get ROD BLAGOJEVICH's wife on paid corporate boards
in exchange for naming the President-elect's pick to the Senate."
Told by two other advisers he has to "suck it up" for two
years, the FBI says it heard Blagojevich complain he has to give this
"motherf***er [the President-elect] his Senator. F*** him. For nothing?
F*** him."
The Governor is heard saying he will pick another candidate
"before I just give f***ing [Senate Candidate l] a f***ing Senate seat
and I don't get anything."




Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 09, 2008 12:54 PM (SX1Hh)

67 For those who missed it, a reporter asked if the F.B.I. breaking into the governor's office and wiretapping the governor was any different than Watergate.
What, an MSM reporter, trying (lamely and indirectly) to protect the Democratic party? Esp. by inserting a reference to a notorious Republican scandal?
I don't believe you sir.
Oh, and fuck Barack Obama, Illinois' now-senior corrupt Dem official.

Posted by: jdub at December 09, 2008 12:54 PM (t9pKb)

68 For those who missed it, a reporter
asked if the F.B.I. breaking into the governor's office and wiretapping
the governor was any different than Watergate.
Un-fucking-real.

Posted by: Dang at December 09, 2008 12:54 PM (Y5LIx)

69 For those who missed it, a reporter
asked if the F.B.I. breaking into the governor's office and wiretapping
the governor was any different than Watergate.

Lists of subjects failed by A class reporters.
- History
- Contemporary History
- Economics
- Math
- Ethics

What am I missing? What's their time in the 40 yard dash? No chance they passed Phys Ed.

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at December 09, 2008 12:55 PM (AHrTm)

70 An Illinois Democrat is thoroughly corrupt? Hogwash, I say!
Having lived there the first 27 years of my life, I can't say I'm surprised. I'm also glad we elected a Chicago Democrat as President. That can only mean good things.
And by good things, I mean unicorns. Blowing rainbows out of their asses, healing the sick and making the poor rich, the whole shebang. Obama's lightning-in-a-bottle just may get a touch sketchier if Rezko really talks...

Posted by: Squatch at December 09, 2008 12:55 PM (COZb8)

71 Who asked that?Who was that? I need to know his name.For those who missed it, a reporter asked if the F.B.I. breaking into the governor's office and wiretapping the governor was any different than Watergate.
Who the fuck is this hack that is shilling for the Democrats to cover this crap?

Posted by: Kaitian at December 09, 2008 12:55 PM (/zEk+)

72 What am I missing? What's their time in the 40 yard dash? No chance they passed Phys Ed.
Nope. And DeAngelo Hall beat most of 'em on the Wonderlic, too.

Posted by: jdub at December 09, 2008 12:56 PM (t9pKb)

73
Posted by: DrewM. at December 09, 2008 12:53 PM (hlYel)

That was my point Drew. Blag could really fuck someone right now by appointing them. Even if they don't take it people would ask why Blag did it. It would hang over their campaign if they ran for it in open election.

Posted by: Rocks at December 09, 2008 12:57 PM (Q1lie)

74
Who the fuck is this hack that is shilling for the Democrats to cover this crap?

The same mother fucking reporter who's getting kickbacks from the DNC.

Posted by: Dang at December 09, 2008 12:57 PM (Y5LIx)

75 For those who missed it, a reporter asked if the F.B.I. breaking into the governor's office and wiretapping the governor was any different than Watergate.
What was fibs,/fitz's response, those of you who are watching?

Posted by: jdub at December 09, 2008 12:58 PM (t9pKb)

76 I just find it interesting that none of the stories mention that he is a Democrat today, but notice in the story where YESTERDAYBlagojevich is the working man's hero, the fact that he is a Democrat is in the second sentence of the Reuter's story.

Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at December 09, 2008 12:58 PM (TKRdM)

77 The longer he stays at the graybar hilton, the more he'll sing on the other Chicago corruptocrats.

Not to worry. We'll use a shiv to shank the songbird before he tweets. Count on it.

Oh, and we get time off for good behavior.

Posted by: Marcello and the Boys at December 09, 2008 12:58 PM (1hM1d)

78 Ha, I bet the folks at Bank Of America are laughing their ass off.

Posted by: Mark at December 09, 2008 12:58 PM (yPPVC)

79 Oh, and we get time off for good behavior.
And a cabinet position, probably. "Community Organizing Liasons," or something.

Posted by: jdub at December 09, 2008 12:59 PM (t9pKb)

80 The same mother fucking reporter who's getting kickbacks from the DNC.
Chris "I'm getting a feeling up my sphincter" Matthews?

Posted by: Kaitian at December 09, 2008 12:59 PM (/zEk+)

81 What am I missing?

Law. Logic.

Posted by: Fresh Air at December 09, 2008 01:00 PM (meVfb)

82 Different from Watergate? Uh yeah, this was legal and that wasn't....are you a tard or something? Oh excuse me Mr Sullivan...it only said Andi on your press tag.

Posted by: Rocks at December 09, 2008 01:00 PM (Q1lie)

83 Chicago could use a good burning. Sweet, riotous, purifying fire.

I aggree.

Posted by: Mrs. O'Leary's Cow at December 09, 2008 01:01 PM (1hM1d)

84 Whatever.. He'll be pardoned by 5 PM on Jan. 20st.

It is good to see the Dems suffer such corrupt humiliation.

Posted by: BillyBob at December 09, 2008 01:01 PM (7HyI+)

85 The Simpsonsfrom Springfield Ill.? Considering the creator of the Simpsons is from Springfield Oregon, I might need to call B.S. on that comment.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at December 09, 2008 01:01 PM (C2//T)

86 Obama might get out of it, #60, but living with Michelle about now is his own personal punishment from hell.

"Why the FUCK didn't you take care of him when I told you too?"....

obama..."sorry dear"....

Posted by: Ann at December 09, 2008 01:01 PM (c3H+i)

87 December 9 (today) is International Anti-Corruption Day.

Posted by: Indythinker at December 09, 2008 01:02 PM (xtj/V)

88 AndrewsDad,
Actually Matt Groening is actually from Portland, Oregon.

Posted by: Kaitian at December 09, 2008 01:02 PM (/zEk+)

89 Just heard on the news that Blago's approval rating is 4%!! And that was before the indictment....

Posted by: In NC at December 09, 2008 01:03 PM (NOrXM)

90 Marcello and the Boys
HAH!!!!
"who wants lemonade?"

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 01:03 PM (ul7te)

91 What was fibs,/fitz's response, those of you who are watching?
He was obviously annoyed and showed it. He said something to the effect of the FBI's procedures were legal and dismissed the question.




Posted by: Bart at December 09, 2008 01:03 PM (wfDKk)

92 what are the odds that Fitz is replaced as US attorney by the new President?

Posted by: Jim King at December 09, 2008 01:04 PM (d0A0s)

93 And now some enterprising MBA student is selling an Illinois Senate Seat on ebay.

Posted by: notropis at December 09, 2008 01:04 PM (1ucvq)

94 If half that shit is true (and it's apparently all on tape), that's just off the charts.

The guy is a fucking amateur.

Posted by: Charlie Rengel at December 09, 2008 01:04 PM (Q1lie)

95 December 9 (today) is International Anti-Corruption Day.
Blagojevich didn't get the memo.

Posted by: Kaitian at December 09, 2008 01:04 PM (/zEk+)

96 So Chicago's kinda lookin' like the Death Star blowing up while Obama rides the Millennium Falcon on to the next sequel.

We'll see if any of the debris gets him in the ass in the next month.

Will Fitzgerald have a job at the end of January?

Can the burgeoning membership in the Chicago Federal Correctional Mens Chorus carry a tune?

Will Obama have a job at the end of January?



"Oh - Bah - Mah, Oh - Bah - Mah, indict the man too! Oh - Bah - Mah, Oh - Bah - Mah, we'll give him to you!"


Posted by: mrkwong at December 09, 2008 01:05 PM (G8Eo0)

97 BFD. It's not like he did something really bad, like let his spouse complain about a state trooper who tasered a kid.

Also, the timing? Consider it questioned.

Posted by: Lefty Hussein McMoonbat at December 09, 2008 01:06 PM (2jQGY)

98 He was obviously annoyed and showed it. He said something to the effect of the FBI's procedures were legal and dismissed the question.

thanks.

Posted by: jdub at December 09, 2008 01:06 PM (t9pKb)

99
Well, there you go. In his presser, Blag mentions how the FBI "sneakily" wiretapped him. And Blag is using Watergate and Nixon in his defense. So, that's the spin, folks. I'm surprised he didn't mention Joe McCarthy. (Maybe he did, I dunno.)

Blagojevich is a victim, you fascists!!!

Posted by: Bart at December 09, 2008 01:06 PM (wfDKk)

100 A motion has been made to question the timing.
Do I hear a second?

Posted by: jdub at December 09, 2008 01:07 PM (t9pKb)

101 MrKwong,
The irony of your analogy is that Han Solo was a thief, murderer (he shot first) and a smuggler, and the Falcon is basicaly a pirate liner.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 01:07 PM (ul7te)

102 "who wants lemonade?"

*raises hand*

Posted by: Skin Head #2 at December 09, 2008 01:09 PM (1hM1d)

103 Obama's involved in this. Everyone here is involved in all this shit. He's involved.

Posted by: LtE113 (MIke in Chicago) at December 09, 2008 01:10 PM (/L1AV)

104 jdub - the usual collection of loonies is absolutely sure that Blago was indicted because he wanted IL to stop dealing with BofA.

Posted by: mrkwong at December 09, 2008 01:10 PM (G8Eo0)

105 Any reports Blagojogbich had a tanning bed?

Posted by: MSM at December 09, 2008 01:11 PM (zl17B)

106 What a bowel belcher this bag of political shit this guyturned out to be. The politicians in Chicago have all been spawned from the bowels of hell. Oh, Obama is from Chicago. Mmmmmm?????

Posted by: Sparky at December 09, 2008 01:11 PM (J1f2W)

107 Blags should show some balls, appoint Fitzgerald to the open Senate seat.

Posted by: Jean at December 09, 2008 01:13 PM (HVRSA)

108 And Blag is using Watergate and Nixon in his defense.
"My fellow Illinois Citizen, I am not a crook! By the way, I will step aside if you give me $50,000 per person. CALL NOW AT THE NUMBER BELOW." - Blagojevich.

Posted by: Kaitian at December 09, 2008 01:13 PM (/zEk+)

109 I really wish I could be in the BofA boardroom now and see the hilarity that must be sweeping the room, especially after that "man of the downtrodden workers" shtick that Blagojevich put on yesterday.
How's my ass taste now, Blagovich?

Posted by: Monty at December 09, 2008 01:13 PM (4Pleu)

110 "bowel belcher this bag of political shit this guyturned out to be. "

Ok, that's a winner! and I'm stealing it.

Posted by: Ann at December 09, 2008 01:14 PM (c3H+i)

111 Wait till it turns out that Bank of America was a major contributer to Lt Gov. Quinn's campaign. The nutroots will go ballistic.

Posted by: Rocks at December 09, 2008 01:16 PM (Q1lie)

112 Notice how this story is stepping on the Fannie/Freddie testimony on C-span. they won't even have to cover this now.

Posted by: Bob at December 09, 2008 01:16 PM (RsriB)

113 Will you buy my newspaper now? I say "fuck" 1000 times more often than this Governor.

Posted by: Sam Zell at December 09, 2008 01:17 PM (AHrTm)

114 Hopefully this will shut up all you podunk poseurs who talk about how your local "Chicago-style politicians," or brag how your local corruption "is almost as bad as Illinois."

Read it and weep, bitches! Cuz there is only one Undisputed Unanimous Number One Corruption Champ!!

WE ARE!! CHITOWN!!

PWN3D!!

Posted by: iowahawk at December 09, 2008 01:17 PM (veL4N)

115
This vid is titled "Nothing but Sunshine"

Ha! This guy has brass balls. He's upset that the FBI didn't let him know they were taping his conservations.


Posted by: Bart at December 09, 2008 01:17 PM (wfDKk)

116 Waiting for a direct link to the ObamaWhite House? Wait no longer (via Johnathan Martin)...

"Federal prosecutors allege that Blagojevich explored one possible quid-pro-quo – he’d appoint a top adviser to Obama in exchange for Obama giving Blagojevich the post as as secretary of health and human services. The indictment makes clear the Obama adviser is Valerie Jarrett, now an Obama White House aide."

I'm sure there's plenty more where that came from.

Posted by: Shawn at December 09, 2008 01:17 PM (wD8k4)

117 Maybe Disgraced Governor Blowsomebitch will cut a deal to name names?

Posted by: Mr. Pissed at December 09, 2008 01:18 PM (KZKfb)

118
"My fellow Illinois Citizen, I am not a crook!"

Yeah, Kaitian, that's pretty much what he says in that vid I linked above!

Posted by: Bart at December 09, 2008 01:19 PM (wfDKk)

119 #107
Greatest idea I've heard in weeks.

Posted by: Ted K. at December 09, 2008 01:21 PM (jiY3V)

120 Gotta love those Illinois Democrats!

One in jail, one to go...

Posted by: NotME! at December 09, 2008 01:22 PM (RuCco)

121
The bitch me set me up!

Posted by: Rod Blagejovich at December 09, 2008 01:23 PM (wfDKk)

122 Next up on the Fitz list is Charlie Rangel! I can't wait for FITZMAS!

Posted by: Winston at December 09, 2008 01:24 PM (FggW0)

123 I hate to be too flip, but all this talk about Chicago really really really makes me want pizza. And a steak the size of my head.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 09, 2008 01:26 PM (SHHaV)

124 I think in general it's the right thing to do but they held off when they had something at stake as well. Interesting ethics case study for future J-school classes.
Yeah, it will be nice to have one case study where they did something that might be ethical, to balance out the other 5,000 cases.

Posted by: sherlock at December 09, 2008 01:26 PM (h6sl7)

125 120 One in jail, one to go...

Only one? You haven't been paying attention!!

Posted by: Ann at December 09, 2008 01:29 PM (c3H+i)

126 And a steak the size of my head.
Is that a common term outside of this area? None of the other places I've been too used that phrase, and in the area I've seen "burritoe's the size of your head only $5" and other variations on actual signs for eating establishments.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 01:29 PM (ul7te)

127 >>Read it and weep, bitches! Cuz there is only one Undisputed Unanimous Number One Corruption Champ!! <<
We're number 2!!

Posted by: Edwin Edwards at December 09, 2008 01:31 PM (hq71Y)

128 SEIU Official stated that he would find out if Senate Candidate 1
wanted SEIU Official to keep pushing her for Senator with ROD
BLAGOJEVICH. ROD BLAGOJEVICH said that “one thing I’d be interested in”
is a 501(c)(4) organization. ROD BLAGOJEVICH explained the 501(c)(4)
idea to SEIU Official and said that the 501(c)(4) could help “our new
Senator [Senate Candidate 1].” SEIU Official agreed to “put that flag up and see where it goes.”
Okay, so this is what it looks like. Around 11/3 SEIU comes to Blag on behalf of Jarret/Obama. Blag wants his own organization setup with around 10 million in startup cash so he can have sweet jobs on it for him and his wife. SEIU takes that back and it's a no go. Instead they offer him a job on one of SEIU's foundations. Blag says okay but pushes for a very high salary, plus a job for his wife and appointments to some paying boards. At this point Jarret/Obama see Blag's price is going to be too high. It could set an ugly precedent for other secret deals. Instead they have SEIU go to Fitz and flip of Blag, greasing the wheels for his investigation in the courts.

Posted by: Rocks at December 09, 2008 01:32 PM (Q1lie)

129 I am now sitting here at my desk ready to gnaw off my arm for a pizza, steak and now burrito. All I got is a stinking fig newton. Thanks.

Posted by: Long Island at December 09, 2008 01:37 PM (F/5qw)

130 Are you guys forgetting Beef Sammiches? Dripping wet with real beef juices?

Oh man, now I'm hungry again.

Posted by: CUS at December 09, 2008 01:41 PM (+p7v2)

131 I'm a Conservative Republican in Illinois and never could understand why this little napoleon was elected in the first place MUCH LESS re-elected but that is the curious thing about democratic states/cities etc They will elect ANYBODY no matter how bad as long as they are democrat. I'd like to think that there are others like me that no matter what the political afilliation would never vote for someone unqualified, unethical or immoral.
And for those taking potshots at Illinois/Chicago go screw yourselves. A state/city isn't totally defined by their politicians. Having said that I am reaching the point, and I think many others will too,where I am considering moving to a more red state. Where I live in suburbia we are bacially white, professional and Republicanbut we are trumped in the cities and the rest of the state by the liberals. I think this Presidential election might be a watershed event for this country. What with the rampant, out of control bias of the media and now the judiciary we are losing our country. We will either have to go to war to take it back or we will end up splintering into separate parts in this country.

Posted by: Mike at December 09, 2008 01:42 PM (P/kYD)

132 The only thing that really matters here: has Markos Moulitsas' head exploded yet? I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: davis,br at December 09, 2008 01:42 PM (uCShA)

133 Okay,
so this is what it looks like. Around 11/3 SEIU comes to Blag on behalf
of Jarret/Obama. Blag wants his own organization setup with around 10
million in startup cash so he can have sweet jobs on it for him and his
wife. SEIU takes that back and it's a no go. Instead they offer him a
job on one of SEIU's foundations. Blag says okay but pushes for a very
high salary, plus a job for his wife and appointments to some paying
boards. At this point Jarret/Obama see Blag's price is going to be too
high. It could set an ugly precedent for other secret deals. Instead
they have SEIU go to Fitz and flip of Blag, greasing the wheels for his
investigation in the courts.
That's what drug dealer gangs do. Another gang-banger is giving you a pain in the ass so you rat him out to the cops. With Obama's coke snorting past(?) it makes sense he would do that.

Posted by: Dang at December 09, 2008 01:42 PM (Y5LIx)

134 I am just horrified. Obama is such a pure spirit who's sincerity is obvious to all but true morons. Why do all these unsavory characters cling to him? Wright, Ayers, Rezco and now the Gov. But Obama is so pure he won't be marked by any of them. Even if Michelle had any connections it would not mean Obama had any connections. Can't you see how good and rightious he is?

Posted by: Locus at December 09, 2008 01:44 PM (f1vXs)

135 see? Now CUS? Thats just crual.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 01:45 PM (ul7te)

136 A state/city isn't totally defined by their politicians.

No. It's defined by the people who elect the politicians. So fuck Chicago. Fuck Illinois. You really should move.

Posted by: Dang at December 09, 2008 01:45 PM (Y5LIx)

137 [cut to BARACK OBAMA'S face. HIS expression is mournful. HE shakes his head wistfully from side to side. Sunlight inexplicably streaming through the windowless press room silhouettes HIS profile from behind, creating a halo effect.]
OBAMA: I just don't understand it. That isn't the Rod Blagojevich I knew.
REPORTER #1: Mr. President-elect, do today's shockingrevelations about corruption in the Illinois governor's mansion affect in any way your resolve to usher America into a new age of environmentally friendly peace, unity, and prosperity?
OBAMA: Of course not, objective member of the press. The planet is healing and the waters are receding as we speak.
REPORTER #2: Mr. President-elect, Governor Blagojevichspoke of making a quid pro quo deal with your staff where he would appoint your choice of Senatorial replacement in exchange for political favors or even outright cash contributions from your campaign. Why would the Governoreven think such a deal was possible, even likely?
[BARACK OBAMA stiffens. HIS eyes widen. HE looks surprised, momentarily taken aback.]
OBAMA:Er,um, uh, okay. Yes. I see. You must be new here.
[RAHM EMANUEL, standing to the right and behind BARACK OBAMA, makes an unobtrusive yet unmistakable gesture to REPORTER #2. REPORTER #2 sees the gesture, nods in frightened comprehension, coughs, clears HIS throat.]
REPORTER #2: Sorry, my bad. Allow me to rephrase. Please allow me to rephrase.
OBAMA: Of course. Go right ahead.
REPORTER #2: Mr. President-elect, when you assume office, do you expect the transformation of our country into a magical paradise where all the people are beautiful and the pretty flowers pick themselves to be a sudden BAM! kind of thing, a single, earth-shaking event, or more of a gradual process?

Posted by: troyriser at December 09, 2008 01:46 PM (NfkMy)

138 With Obama's coke snorting past(?) it makes sense he would do that.
Yeaahh, wait a minute.
Did he ever PROVE he'd quit the blow? After all, he said he'd quit smoking, too...

Posted by: jdub at December 09, 2008 01:49 PM (t9pKb)

139 Isn't this the guy that just tried to blackmail BoA in the press? A new low in Illinois, no surprise just how good dictator elect took care of his home state. Anyone that thinks he will do anything but flush this country down the toilet is an idiot.
There maybe no proof he knew but he defintily knew. He covers his tracks and denies or refuses to answer anything and everything. This is just another part of his incredibly foggy past he and the MSM cover up, deny, deflect or flat out lie about

Posted by: up yours Guv' at December 09, 2008 01:49 PM (B/Y39)

140 Why do all these unsavory characters cling to him?

The messiah walked across the sea of Galilee.

This "messiah" walks across the cesspools of Illinois.

Posted by: Dang at December 09, 2008 01:50 PM (Y5LIx)

141 This wouldn't be allowed to happen unless Blag had made many Democrat enemies. I eagerly await his testimony.

Posted by: t-bird at December 09, 2008 01:53 PM (FcR7P)

142 Got teh warm tingling up both legs!
Let's get nobama before the 15th.
Praise Jesus..fuck messiah

Posted by: sickinmass at December 09, 2008 01:54 PM (/i4dU)

143


Please disperse, nothing to see here, move along.

Please disperse, nothing to see here, move along.

Please disperse, nothing to see here, move along.

Please disperse, nothing to see here, move along.

Posted by: Sen. Rev. Dr. E Buzz at December 09, 2008 01:55 PM (TmAN1)

144 Just heard on the news that Blago's approval rating is 4%!! And that was before the indictment....
Now, it's jumped up to 9%, because most people didn't think he had the balls to do this.

Posted by: Roy at December 09, 2008 01:55 PM (cB77O)

145 Jeez, i just saw a picture of this guy. WTF is with the hair? I've never seen that shade of black in the color spectrum before. It looks like her spray paiting it on

Posted by: up yours Guv' at December 09, 2008 01:55 PM (B/Y39)

146 This is the kind of community "organizing" that Obama wants to spread around. He doesn't want to clean up corruption, he wants to spread it. He'll keep everyone oohing and aahing about his "decisiveness" on the economy and his newfound interest in national defense, while the real power people behind him go about their work completely unmolested. Of course there will have to be show trials too... someone like Blago gets too big for their britches, they get chummed to feed the MSM'snarrative of Obama the Cleansing One.

Posted by: sherlock at December 09, 2008 01:55 PM (8V5Ut)

147 35 Is it just me, or is this by far the worst political corruption scandal in living memory? George Ryan's driver's license scheme was terrible (because it indirectly led to the deaths of people killed by unqualified drivers), but was ultimately petty graft. And this shit makes William "Cold Cash" Jefferson or Ted Stevens or Rostenkowski (from back in 1994) look like child's play. Spitzer banging hookers? Feh. This level of corruption: thuggish threats against the Trib, shakedowns of Children's Hospital, bribery, and the ATTEMPT TO SELL THE SENATE SEAT OUTRIGHT...I can't think of anything this bad in recent memory. This is downright Nixonian.
---
hard to tell. the corurption arrests of Dems are coming fast and furious. Who can keep up with who the dirtiest of them all is? No doubt its a politician that was involved in al lthis that hasn't been caught yet. Like Dictator elect. No way did he not know what was going on

Posted by: up yours Guv' at December 09, 2008 01:57 PM (B/Y39)

148 It must have just killed the Trib to hold this information until after the election. I'm sure it killed Patrick "I investigated Chicago and all I found were dirty Republicans" Fitzgerald to indict Blago.

Kick out Ryan, get Blago.
Kick out Mark Foley, get Tim Mahoney.

Two examples of: If you don't like the Republican, the Democrat is much worse. And if you didn't like Bush's spending and "unnecessary wars", look out!

Posted by: AmishDude at December 09, 2008 01:58 PM (T0NGe)

149 A funny thought:

Fitzgerald has pretty much cleared the way to ROMP to election if he decides to run for Governor in 2010. He could go a long way towards rehabilitating the reputation of the Republican Party in Illinois...

Posted by: Jeff B. at December 09, 2008 01:59 PM (OEoRy)

150 because it indirectly led to the deaths of people killed by unqualified drivers
most of them were illegals, which also led to smuggling, of the human kind. If you speak english, with a US liscence, you get passed. Ryans crime while seemingly minor had MAJOR repercussions, not just in liscensing, but in the appearance of approval, based on the poorly negotiated NAFTA.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 02:01 PM (ul7te)

151 Pepto sales must be through the roof in Chicago today.

Posted by: LAsue at December 09, 2008 02:01 PM (2V7nL)

152 "It must have just killed the Trib to hold this information until after
the election. I'm sure it killed Patrick "I investigated Chicago and
all I found were dirty Republicans" Fitzgerald to indict Blago"

It was held until AFTER the election...poor Tribune my balls.
The Trib ruined Jack Ryan's run against Obama...got us Alan Keyes to run instead.

Posted by: LtE113 (MIke in Chicago) at December 09, 2008 02:01 PM (/L1AV)

153 >>120 One in jail, one to go...

>Only one? You haven't been paying attention!!

127 - I have been paying attention, having grown up in Illinois. But, there is only one, THE ONE, I am referring to. If we threw every crook in Illinois in jail, it would be cheaper to fence off Mexico and ship them down there.... wait, that isn't such a bad idea!

Posted by: NotME! at December 09, 2008 02:01 PM (RuCco)

154 You know what would be funnier than hell? Blago nominating Jack Ryan to fill the seat. Those from around here will know.

Mike, where you at?

Posted by: CUS at December 09, 2008 02:02 PM (+p7v2)

155 Okay, sohow muchdid Obama pay for HIS Senate seat... and to whom did he pay it?! See, now that wehave establishedwhat a Senator from Illinois is, we just need to work out the price!

Posted by: sherlock at December 09, 2008 02:03 PM (8V5Ut)

156 The story I saw is that Fitz asked the Trib to hold the story for 8 weeks.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 09, 2008 02:04 PM (T0NGe)

157 Now, if there is some more singing with a couple iron cladObama indictments, then maybe SCOTUS will open up some hearing ... lol

Posted by: Cromagnum at December 09, 2008 02:05 PM (UxAb/)

158 And exactly what did Obama do to end corruption while a state senator? I guess it was all that hard work that landed him in his current job.

Posted by: Long Island at December 09, 2008 02:06 PM (F/5qw)

159 You know Obama will come out and say he is "saddened and sickened" by this corruption. He will seek to implement "new ethics reforms" immediately. Such as forcing Lobbyists and Congressmen and Senators to stand while eating food provided at no cost to them. That way, the free food is considered a "snack" and not a "meal".

F-F-F-F-F-F-ACEPALM!

Hopenchange you can buy with cabinet appointments, Corporate Board seats, and cold hard cash.

Posted by: portfolio at December 09, 2008 02:07 PM (Vw4NE)

160 You know what would be funnier than hell? Blago nominating Jack Ryan to fill the seat. Those from around here will know.
Instead oftaking your wife to a sex club; actually being sent there yourself.

Posted by: Roy at December 09, 2008 02:08 PM (cB77O)

161 Um, did you see the part about His wife, the deputy Governor and the Tribune?
Why then hell hasn't Mrs. Blag and Deputy Governor "A" been indicted?

Posted by: Rocks at December 09, 2008 02:09 PM (Q1lie)

162 Scumbag Dickey Durbin is calling for a special election for Barry's seat. Too bad there isn't a Republican Party in Illinois.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 09, 2008 02:10 PM (SX1Hh)

163 Come on, you two cocksuckers, let's hear your bullshit.Some cockholster leftie troll at HotAir is pushing "how come Palin hasn't been charged with theft of the clothes bought for her" line, Bart. Good cum come back, eh?

Posted by: andycanuck at December 09, 2008 02:11 PM (CZaaY)

164 You Republicans are nothing but lying liars and that Senate seat belongs to me BTW.

Posted by: Al Franken at December 09, 2008 02:12 PM (E6GUg)

165 Roy, Jack ryan got into trouble for wanting to have sex with his wife, JERI RYAN! Clinton got a free pass, and because of this BULLSHIT controversy that never should have been released by the judges own admission, obama skated into the senate without vetting, and because the media was in the tank he skated into the presidency.
Jack Ryan's crime? Wanting to have sex with Jeri Ryan.
If thats a Crime, sentence me to life.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 02:14 PM (ul7te)

166 They took Blago and his Chief of Staff into custody today. They will start singing as 4-6 years looks a lot more promising than 16 years in a Federal "Pound Me in the Ass" Penitentiary. The greatest thing about Federal Prison time? You have to serve 85% of your sentence before even becoming eligible for parole.

The names will flow like hopenchange lubricant once Blago has a chance to see the evidence against him. And that is when the popcorn tub will runneth over.

Posted by: portfolio at December 09, 2008 02:15 PM (Vw4NE)

167 Chicago could use a good burning. Sweet, riotous, purifying fire.I'm game. But what's in it for me?

Posted by: mrs o'leary's cow at December 09, 2008 02:15 PM (CZaaY)

168 Blago will go back to work tomorrow as if nothing happend. He''ll appoint himself to the US Senate seat before the State Supreme Court can convene a hearing to determine Blagos ability to govern the state. The Court will as him to step aside, he'll resign and avoid an impeachment proceeding.

It will then be a matter of trying to extracate him from the US Senate during his trial.

Posted by: Nyctalus Lasiopterus at December 09, 2008 02:16 PM (EPSru)

169 My, my my. The corruption of Democratic politicians is just hitting the fan as of late. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a story in the MSM about a Dem politician on the take-even if they do whitewash it as much as possible..
You think they might make the connection of going bankrupt with actually reporting the truth of this whole thing from this point on, rather than give blow jobs?Nah. All these people getting caughttwisting arms and taking bribesare not going to go down alone. Still waiting on Rezco to sing. Blag will give up any and everybody up once he realizes how screwed he is. There must be something in all those things he did to charge him under RICO. We can only hope

Posted by: up yours Guv' at December 09, 2008 02:16 PM (B/Y39)

170 Obama?Soetoro? in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .
"This is not the Blago I knew."
"He was just a guy governing the state I lived in. I don't live there anymore."
"Blago who?"

Posted by: starboardhelm at December 09, 2008 02:20 PM (4r9Vh)

171 Rahm Emmanuel drop dime on Blago?

Left-wing blogs are buzzing that the man who dropped a dime on Blago is Rahm Emmanuel. If Obama's guys are actually the one's that alerted Fitz to what Blago wanted, this could actually prove a boon to Obama. Blago dropped f-bombs about Obama not givinganything for the seat but "appreciation". If true, this will actually work to the great benefit of Obama.

Posted by: JDW at December 09, 2008 02:20 PM (uw+0A)

172
Some cockholster leftie troll at HotAir is pushing "how come Palin
hasn't been charged with theft of the clothes bought for her"

Can you believe we lost to those drooling 'tards?

Posted by: Bart at December 09, 2008 02:24 PM (wfDKk)

173 It doesn't matter if this hits Obama with guilt by association. There is no way, unless Obama is balls deep inside Blago and his wife, that this would derail his Inauguration. What this does do is to further portray and putrify the Democratic brand. Remember, our next battle is in 2010, not in 2012. This is but a paving stone in the road back to a Republican Congress.

Posted by: portfolio at December 09, 2008 02:24 PM (Vw4NE)

174 After all, he said he'd quit smoking, too...
Cigarettes, not crack

Posted by: that guy at December 09, 2008 02:25 PM (zl17B)

175 Some cockholster leftie troll at HotAir is pushing "how come Palin hasn't been charged with theft of the clothes bought for her"

I find that the frequency with which I visit HotAir is inversely proportional to the number of troll posts. They really need to clean up that site.

Posted by: Y-not at December 09, 2008 02:26 PM (dC8te)

176 Posted by: andycanuck at December 09, 2008 02:11 PM (CZaaY)

The same troll is also "questioning the timing," saying both Spitzer and Blagojevich were taking stands against Bank of America right before they were indicted.

Bank of America - mad power.

Posted by: Slublog at December 09, 2008 02:26 PM (R8+nJ)

177 And for those taking potshots at Illinois/Chicago go screw yourselves. A state/city isn't totally defined by their politicians. Having said that I am reaching the point, and I think many others will too,where I am considering moving to a more red state.
I can sympathize.

Posted by: California at December 09, 2008 02:26 PM (ujg0T)

178 Minor point, there wasn't corruption in the Illinois' Governor's mansion. If you're from around here, you'll remember the Blagos didn't move into it because Mrs. Blago was too good for it.

Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2008 02:27 PM (cvMcH)

179 Jack ryan got into trouble for wanting to have sex with his wife, JERI RYAN!

Finish the sentence. Jack Ryan wanted to have sex with his wife at a swingers club, against her will, and then he lied to his own campaign staff about it.

I can understand the secret. The records were sealed. But if your own staff asks you about it and you think you cannot tell them about it then how can you keep on running for office? You step aside to protect your family. It's the only honorable move.

Too bad there isn't a Republican Party in Illinois.

I hear Alan Keyes is out of work.

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at December 09, 2008 02:28 PM (AHrTm)

180 rarely if ever read the comments at Hotair, same with LGF.Good opinions, even when I disagree, but the posts are so self righteous and arrogant, that you must assume that the comments are gonna be just as arrogant and self righteous.
Thats why Ace's comments live, and why my tard blog runs. There are no real pretenses (other than Gabe)
Comments are worthless at a place like hotair and LGF, because the commenters are paeons, lesser than the posters or owners.
I like organic interaction.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 02:29 PM (ul7te)

181 Yawn. When do I get my mortgage and gas paid for again?

Posted by: Typical Lazy Fucking Obot at December 09, 2008 02:29 PM (bijvq)

182 What this does do is to further portray and putrify the Democratic brand. Remember, our next battle is in 2010, not in 2012. This is but a paving stone in the road back to a Republican Congress.
And to think Mr. Ryan lost his Senate seat merely because one upon a time he wanted to show offhis then trophy wife.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 09, 2008 02:31 PM (ujg0T)

183 Yawn. When do I get my mortgage and gas paid for again?

Right after I get my bailout for Enron. Don't you remember how I lobbied the White House that it was in the interest of the United States to save Enron?

Posted by: Bob Rubin at December 09, 2008 02:31 PM (AHrTm)

184 Today at Winston & Strawn: "Mr. Webb, Mr. "B" is calling on line 1, Deputy Governors "A," "B" and "C" are on hold, and a Mrs. "B" is still hiding under my desk and insisting that she see you first."

Posted by: LAsue at December 09, 2008 02:32 PM (2V7nL)

185 I find that the frequency with which I visit HotAir is inversely proportional to the number of troll posts. They really need to clean up that site.

there's also the obligatory evolution posts....hey theres one on their right now, imagine that
some of their commenters are crazy

Posted by: that guy at December 09, 2008 02:33 PM (zl17B)

186 Does anyone think this kind of twisting was how Mrs. Obama got her 300,000 a year job, that was paying 118,000 a year,prior to Obama's senate win??
Isn't this the way ALL of Chicago and Illinois people do business( er...bid-ness)? The pattern is the same.

Posted by: ford at December 09, 2008 02:34 PM (ihOUK)

187 Finish the sentence. Jack Ryan wanted to have sex with his wife at a swingers club, against her will, and then he lied to his own campaign staff about it.
Granted it was a stupid thing to do ("Look at me everybody! I'm banging a movie star!") but by Illinois standards, it's really tame.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 09, 2008 02:35 PM (ujg0T)

188 gabriel, nothing in the text says he forced her, or tried to force her. she was "uncomfortable with his constant requests" or something like that. Also they were in private booths, so even if she did aquiesce it wouldn't have been public sex, it would have been sex in a public place, a big difference.
There is nothing about coercian, but the media ASSUMED coercian based on her discomfort.
Also, JERI said he would be a great senator, and a great father, and was uncomfortable discussing the specifics of the divorce, because if she said she allowed her lawyer to lie, then she lied to a judge, and she would be guilty of a crime.
ALSO! the "judge" who allowed the release, in his own statements said that it would do nothing but harm to the child, which is why the fucking files were sealed in the first place, but fuck it, he was a chicago judge, supporting a common chicago dem against a truly successful chicago man running to represent all people rather than just himself.
And he didn't lie, he said that yes there is sex and it's not a big deal.
Why isn't it a big deal? CUZ IT WAS HIS FUCKING WIFE! who by the way is taller and tougher than he is, whereas, what?
We get ryans divorce depositions, but NOT Obama's college transcripts?

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 02:35 PM (ul7te)

189 The Blag will assimilate you.

Posted by: sixty-of-nine at December 09, 2008 02:38 PM (CZaaY)

190 Wow. Pulling funding from a children's hospital. Now we know what the Dems mean when they say it's "for the children".

Posted by: chemjeff at December 09, 2008 02:39 PM (wy+AE)

191 No standing on a constitutional requirement, but tossing out dirty laundry of a divorce that was originaly sealed for the good of the child, and then released to the public despite the judge himself said that the release would have a negative impact on the child?
Birth Certificate? VILE EVIL VIOLATION OF PRIVACY!
Agreed upon divorce contract, established to protect a child? FUCK THAT!! THE PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW!!

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 02:40 PM (ul7te)

192 Burn Chicago? Chicago is a cesspool? Get your head out of your arse. Sure these corrupt politicians need to be pooled into their own wing of a prison and sure its a blight on Illinois politics, but what the hell does that mean about Chicago the city?
How can you hate a city you've never lived in? All that Capone bulldung is spewed by people from other parts of the world not Chicagoans.
Not ever want to visit here? We will miss ya <chuckles>. But if you change your mind, we welcome you with open arms <and no...our hands will stay in our own pockets LOL>.

Posted by: Steel at December 09, 2008 02:41 PM (+svwZ)

193 Papers like LAT and NYT have an opportunity here. They can either hasten their demise faster by trying to whitewash this story or they can do actual unbiased truth reporting about this story and maybe save themselves from going belly up. Is it really worth the survival of your business to blow Dictator elect? You can't do both. it's one or the other.
I don't expect they would be smart enough to be unbiased in order to save themselves.

Posted by: Jody C. at December 09, 2008 02:43 PM (B/Y39)

194 The same troll is also "questioning the timing," saying both Spitzer
and Blagojevich were taking stands against Bank of America right before
they were indicted.Bank of America - mad power.
Fuckin' A! That's my savings account at work! Makes me wanna dip my balls in my safe deposit box! Say... (starts unzipping pants while looking for car keys)

Posted by: Dang at December 09, 2008 02:45 PM (Y5LIx)

195 @167, What's in it for you, Mrs. O'Leary's cow? All the teat pulling you can stand then onto the barbecue!

Posted by: Little Milk Maid at December 09, 2008 02:45 PM (zXLMP)

196 Froggy went a marchin' and he did ride...
Crambone!

Posted by: Uncle Pecos at December 09, 2008 02:46 PM (vZ9Xv)

197 176 Posted by: andycanuck at December 09, 2008 02:11 PM (CZaaY)The same troll is also "questioning the timing," saying both Spitzer and Blagojevich were taking stands against Bank of America right before they were indicted.Bank of America - mad power.
----
Is there a proper time of the day or month to strongarm, blackmail and sell your political office? I've lost my copy of"The Handbook for the Corrupt Politician"

Posted by: Jody C. at December 09, 2008 02:46 PM (B/Y39)

198 #184: The LAsue moniker is just a cover, right? Because that was way too Chicago legal inside baseball. Although word on the street is that WS is none too happy with getting pegged as the pro bono go-to firm for indicted Illinois governors.

Posted by: Sarge6 at December 09, 2008 02:48 PM (MnTPh)

199 Good thing Barack the Pure was busy feeding the unicorns and had nothing to do with any of this.

Also, it's shocking--shocking!--that a president who's a product of the Chicago machine might have some connection to scandal.

SHOCKING

This must be the "new politics" we've heard so much about.

Posted by: tsj017 at December 09, 2008 02:50 PM (TBwnU)

200 And for those taking potshots at Illinois/Chicago go screw yourselves. A state/city isn't totally defined by their politicians. Having said that I am reaching the point, and I think many others will too,where I am considering moving to a more red state.
You need to move to Ohio, Pennsylvania, or Florida and take all of your conservative friends with you. Let's take these swing states and make them red states.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 09, 2008 02:50 PM (CiVat)

201 These jokers in Illinois need to clean up their act. Bunch of corrupt fucking scumbags.

Posted by: Louisiana at December 09, 2008 02:50 PM (9st3f)

202 Wait a second @171 has a good point, instead of tainting Obama with guilt by association, if they somehow were the ones who helped snare the Gov then they are going to look oh so pristine "look, look at us, look how we fight corruption in govt."
I am sadly considering the possibility that this may actually turn out well for Obama. Dammit, I'm actually beginning to believe Obama has magical powers, at least some sort of shield which protects him from being revealed as pure evil.

Posted by: ParanoidInSeattle at December 09, 2008 02:50 PM (AJ4xq)

203 Which begs the question:
Which is worse, the corruption or the cover-up toupee?
Serious, eye-poppingly bad rug in the picture on Drudge.

Posted by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate at December 09, 2008 02:57 PM (Hj9yW)

204 Um, the poster (#136) that said "It's defined by the people who elect the politicians. So fuck Chicago. Fuck Illinois. You really should move."

What state are you from? No corruption there, ever?
What I, as a tax-paying Illinois resident did this year was:
Change my party affiliation from (D) to (R).
Contacted state rep requestiong that she keep an eye on the son-of-a-bitch governor and his crooked real-estate agent/wife.
Oh, I also worked to help IL send a responsible Republican back to Congress.
Remember, Illinois gave us Lincoln, Reagan and US Grant (sorta)

Posted by: sirlurksalot at December 09, 2008 02:58 PM (W3XUk)

205 Hey, Rod! Watch out for your cornhole, bud.

Posted by: Edwin Edwards at December 09, 2008 03:01 PM (9st3f)

206 Remember when Watergate was a big fucking deal?

Posted by: Corona at December 09, 2008 03:01 PM (pI8vF)

207 This isn't going to help Obama. Why would they think he would go a for a deal to begin with? There must be some history there? You don't just come up with a deal like his out of the blue.

Posted by: Rocks at December 09, 2008 03:02 PM (Q1lie)

208 Finish the sentence. Jack Ryan wanted to have sex with his wife at
a swingers club, against her will, and then he lied to his own campaign
staff about it.

You really should give the full context of the situation. He wasn't trying to rape her. He was trying to spice up their marriage in an effort to save it. It was failing because she was having an affair with one of the producers of Star Trek: Voyager (who she later married, I think).

As for those defending Chicago, I live in the suburbs and curse every day the weather is clear enough that I can see it. Illinois is burdened with one party rule (and the odd RINO like George Ryan) because of the way Chicago votes. You want to be respected? Break the hold of the Democrat machine.

Barring that, maybe the rest of the state can go the Palatine route (they're looking to secede from Cook County to get out from under its taxes).

Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2008 03:02 PM (cvMcH)

209 he was a chicago judge, supporting a common chicago dem against a truly
successful chicago man running to represent all people rather than just
himself.

I'm pretty sure it was Family Court in Los Angeles County or Orange County in California.

I see your point. I was too in the "why the fuck is the Tribune trying to unseal private divorce proceedings". And I still am there. However, as a candidate, I think you have to assume that whatever you've done in your life is going to something you may have to explain. If you don't want to explain it to voters, the only way to avoid it is to never seek an elected office in the first place.

It's almost impossible to elect people that will have incredible responsibility to voters if they can't even maintain a trust with their own family. That's the core of the whole family values argument. It's Calvinist reformation standards. A person with a fundamentally strong home is a person that might be capable of leading a fundamentally sound community.

Private booth sex clubs? Eh, maybe in contemporary Holland, but the remnants of the reformation fled to this country far ago.

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at December 09, 2008 03:03 PM (AHrTm)

210 Good thing I live in DuPage, Methos.

Posted by: CUS at December 09, 2008 03:04 PM (+p7v2)

211 I personally think the final straw in all this was this craigslist posting offering the open senate seat for sale. Too much even for Chicago

Posted by: chad at December 09, 2008 03:05 PM (lNQg8)

212 really, GS? do we know who obama roomed with at any university attended, who he hung out with, who he did drugs with, what his grades were? to say that everything will be exposed to scrutiny is ridiculous.

Posted by: ed at December 09, 2008 03:06 PM (Urhve)

213 Why would they think he would go a for a deal to begin with? There must
be some history there? You don't just come up with a deal like his out
of the blue.

When I heard the directorship dealing you know what first came into mind? The Chicago Annenberg Challenge, its death, and its rebirth as the Chicago Fund for Public Education where its a who's who of directorship dealing.

Trading directors posts in Chicago and Illinois is as old as the city and state themselves. Our golden boy knows the power game. He taught it to ACORN staffers.

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at December 09, 2008 03:06 PM (AHrTm)

214 What's in it for you, Mrs. O'Leary's cow? All the teat pulling you can stand then onto the barbecue!
Posted by: Little Milk Maid
Okay, but no donkey punches. Bossy don't play that.

Posted by: mrs. o'leary's cow at December 09, 2008 03:07 PM (CZaaY)

215 Re: #184:
"I paid Winston Strawn $600,000 in legal fees, and all I got was this lousy orange t-shirt!!"

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at December 09, 2008 03:09 PM (ERJIu)

216 It's almost impossible to elect people that will have incredible responsibility to voters if they can't even maintain a trust with their own family.
The trust was maintained when both adults OPPOSED the release!! When both Adults SEALED the conflict as a fight between adults.
The ONLY person other than Jack and Jeri who had standing was the SON!
But somehow the tribune has standing?
What the FUCKING FUCKING!?!?is a newspapers standing?

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 03:13 PM (ul7te)

217 SoMM, lol.

Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2008 03:13 PM (cvMcH)

218 I always knew politcs was dirty, but THAT was the DIRTIEST politics.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 03:13 PM (ul7te)

219 I've read four different stories on this, and none of them refer to this turd as a democrat. Anyone wanna give me odds on how many times the driveby media would have been able to work "Republican" into the headlines and lead paragraph of the story if it had been a Republican governor involved in this sort of thing?

Posted by: Buddha at December 09, 2008 03:14 PM (EGags)

220 We gotta get this five thousand dollars to the Cook County Assessor's Office by 5pm on Friday!

Posted by: Elwood Blues at December 09, 2008 03:14 PM (VEBC3)

221 The O is about to hold a presser on this.

"I'm shocked, surprised and disappointed. This is not the governor I knew."

Yeah, whatever.

Posted by: Shannon at December 09, 2008 03:19 PM (v4qA1)

222 "Democrat Politician Accused of Corruption"

In other "surprising" news:

"Hollywood Actors are Liberal"
"Rosie O'Donnel Pens an Illiterate Profane Rant on her BLOG"
"Harry Reid Looks As If He's Constipated"
"The Sun will Rise in the East"

Posted by: FormerHostage at December 09, 2008 03:20 PM (N8+Yj)

223 I always knew politcs was dirty, but THAT was the DIRTIEST politics.

and it gave us obama...

Posted by: that guy at December 09, 2008 03:21 PM (zl17B)

224 Looks like Rod ran out of "testicular fortitude."

Posted by: damare at December 09, 2008 03:21 PM (jEAlN)

225 Whoops - its video, not a presser.

And he has no comment...

Posted by: Shannon at December 09, 2008 03:21 PM (v4qA1)

226 In Jack Ryan's defense, if my wife looked like Jeri Ryan *I'd* want to have sex with her in public at a club, too.
... and if I looked like Jack Ryan, she'd probably let me.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at December 09, 2008 03:24 PM (8WOzU)

227 Yeah, maybe that global warming scam will keep us all distracted from one more poor association of the Golden Calf.

"I have no contact with the Governor or his office..."

Asshole.

Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2008 03:24 PM (cvMcH)

228 How can we be talking about this when there is real news at hand? Oprah has gained weight. She's over 2 tons again. She might not be able to fit into the tent she was going to wear at Barry's coronation. Ohh the horrors!!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 09, 2008 03:25 PM (SX1Hh)

229 Its time to play N A M E T H A T P A R T Y Y Y Y Y

Posted by: MAJHAM at December 09, 2008 03:26 PM (Y8u2x)

230 Hey, Grant is from Ohio!

Posted by: Wild Bill at December 09, 2008 03:30 PM (SVtW2)

231 Unfortunately, Lt. Gov. Pat Quinn is somewhere to left of Mao Tse Tung, as the rest of us in Illinois will soon find out.

And, uh, everyone? Please stop the hatin' on Chicago. We used to actually elect some good Republicans, (and gave birth to one majordomo.)

It's already starting to feel Custer-like here, already. If Illinois Republicans can't take advantage of this, then they are truly hopeless.

Posted by: dandoz at December 09, 2008 03:31 PM (WULfn)

232 That guy?
Yes it gave us obama. At first when the race was running up (I don't live in Illinois) I thought "man thats a tough choice" but when obama did his nowusual act of complete ignorance, allowing other people to do his dirty work thing, I realized he was a piece of shit.
Obama said NOTHING about how dirty the political/legal manipulation of a CLOSED CONTRACT for CAUSE! just smiled and kept on saying nothing.
I liked the biographies, but I realized then that Obama's biography was a lie.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 03:31 PM (ul7te)

233 Everyone is amazed that this comes so soon after the elections, but you forget that on January 20th, Fitz will be out of a job, fired with the rest of the US Attorneys when Obama takes office. Check with Bill Clinton if you have any questions.

Posted by: TimothyJ at December 09, 2008 03:34 PM (IKKIf)

234 I'm eagerly awaiting Seattle Slough's and icus' spin on this.Come on, you two cocksuckers, let's hear your bullshit.
OK, for the benefit of my fans and by popular demand.
This guy Blago is obviously a psychopath. Aside from that, old-time corruption will never go away. In fact, it seems to be increasing the last few years. There seems to be a "everyone's grabbing, why not me?" attitude.
I never held it against the Republicans when Cunningham and Ney got pinched -it's gonna happen, and has nothing to do with the parties. Each party will have it's own style of corruption because of their constituencies. These things are pretty balanced - for each Ney you have a Jefferson. The whole Abramoff thing was kind of a creature of the Republicans, though, just as some labor corruption is linked to the Democrats.
I hope Fitz hammersBlago the way he tried to hammer Libby. Of course Libby got off the hook because of Bush.
I'd also love to see Fitz run for something.
I'm not a Democrat, I'man anti-fuckup, anti-ignoramusand anti-statist registered independent. Which is why I was against Bush since themiddle of 2003, when the fuck-ups became obvious.

Posted by: icus at December 09, 2008 03:34 PM (mOFr4)

235 WHAT THE HELL?
Bank of American caved in to extortion and is giving money to the retards at the closed window factory!
Throwing money down a rathole? And they don't give a shit because it's our tax money, not their "real money".

Posted by: Jim62sch at December 09, 2008 03:36 PM (zYagu)

236 In Jack Ryan's defense, if my wife looked like Jeri Ryan *I'd* want to have sex with her in public at a club, too.
Jack Ryan also wanted her tofuck other guys at the club and watch, too.

Posted by: icus at December 09, 2008 03:37 PM (mOFr4)

237 Should probably read:
"US Attorney: Blagojevich Press Conference Now Is Over."

Posted by: Lt. York at December 09, 2008 03:37 PM (u3pgy)

238 219 I've read four different stories on this, and none of them refer to this turd as a democrat. Anyone wanna give me odds on how many times the driveby media would have been able to work "Republican" into the headlines and lead paragraph of the story if it had been a Republican governor involved in this sort of thing?
---
The in the tank media is failingto mention that but make no mistakes, there are plenty of others that are letting it be known. The public can be stupid but they are not this stupid. This thing is buzzing ALL OVER the place

Posted by: Jody C. at December 09, 2008 03:38 PM (B/Y39)

239 Jack Ryan also wanted her tofuck other guys at the club and watch, too.
I sure wish I had been a friend of Jack Ryan's back then. I would have let him watch me do his wife...after all, what are friends for?

Posted by: Jim62sch at December 09, 2008 03:40 PM (zYagu)

240
Dec. 9 (Bloomberg) President-elect Barack Obama said he
was unaware of the criminal investigation into an alleged
attempt by Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich to trade an
appointment for Obama’s Senate seat for financial gain. “I had no contact with the governor or his office and so I
was not aware of what was happening, ” Obama told reporters
today in Chicago. “It’s a sad day for Illinois. Beyond that, I
don’t think it’s appropriate to comment.”



Sgt. Schultz Obama reporting for duty.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 09, 2008 03:40 PM (SX1Hh)

241 Of course Libby got off the hook because of Bush.

No such thing happened. The prison sentence was commuted, the rest stood. He is still guilty.

Posted by: CUS at December 09, 2008 03:42 PM (+p7v2)

242 Just another reason to "Jizz in my pants."
http://tinyurl.com/6p3kyx

Posted by: CCooper at December 09, 2008 03:43 PM (N/k4Z)

243 "Forget Jake, it's Gotham City, you wouldn't understand" Actually the Dark Knight showed a disturbingly close view of this kind of environment. From the mob connected bank president, who carried a sawed off shotguns, to the corrupt city council, the cowardly mayor. Fitzgerald is kind of Harvey Dent and there's no Bruce Wayne. The closest thing, Conrad Black was sent up the river by Fitzgerald.

Posted by: narciso at December 09, 2008 03:44 PM (9EG7Z)

244 Lay off the Chicago/Illinois bashing, folks. I've no connections to the state or city, but you get the same thing in a state where the political power comes from one major city. The lefty / poor / racial minority crowd from the city elects Democrats, and with no functional opposition they get away with murder- because they can.
Chicago and Illinois are more corrupt than most, and the corrupt polsdid getelected by a majority, but there's no doubt a sizable minority more annoyed by the situation than anyone else.
Seriously-can anyone from New York, New Jersey, Michigan, Louisiana, Alabama, Pennsylvania, Ohio, etc really say with a straight face that the same wouldn't have, couldn'tor hasn't happened there?
That said- more, faster please. Obama should've been tossed out of office over the Rezko land deal years ago; no doubt there's a boatload of other Chicago/Illinois politicians who deserve a prison sentence.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 09, 2008 03:45 PM (rf03a)

245 @ 18... my sentiments exactly. http://tinyurl.com/5dv9ab

Posted by: CCooper at December 09, 2008 03:45 PM (N/k4Z)

246 Lay off the Chicago/Illinois bashing, folks.
Why? The entire rest of your posting gives us numerous reasons to do so. That, and I lived there for twelve years.
They deserve it.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at December 09, 2008 03:47 PM (PMGbu)

247 I for one can't wait to see Vice President Biden frog-marched out of the White House... oh, wait, isn't this FDL?

Posted by: richard mcenroe at December 09, 2008 03:48 PM (ScoG3)

248 #198 - LA is correct, but I did have the pleasure, long ago, of co-trying a case with the amazing Mr. Webb. If I were a corrupt, dirty politician, I would want to have him on retainer.

Posted by: LAsue at December 09, 2008 03:53 PM (2V7nL)

249 246
Seriously-can anyone from New York, New Jersey, Michigan,
Louisiana, Alabama, Pennsylvania, Ohio, etc really say with a straight
face that the same wouldn't have, couldn'tor hasn't happened there?

That discussion came up at lunch today... the general consensus here was that imprisoned LA Governor Edwin Edwards wouldn't have been as brazen as Blago, especially on stuff like extorting a children's hospital and selling a US Senate appointment.


That's not to say we don't have corruption, but ours not only isn't in the same ballpark, it's not even the same goddamn sport.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 09, 2008 03:54 PM (mfBwq)

250 BLAGOVITCH is TRIG'S FATHER!

Oh, and "Senator Ayers."

Posted by: rawmuscleglutes at December 09, 2008 03:54 PM (jCJ5W)

251 As I mentioned on the earlier thread, I wonder if the Jacksons are going to be in trouble on this.
Poly:
registration means nothing. Your viewpoints point to being a liberal. Which means you are pro fuck up.
What viewpoints point to me being a "liberal?"Anyways, it would be very hard to fuck up more consistently and more grandlythan the current administration.
Overheard leaving Iraq:
“I like Bush. He made America weak.”Taxi driver in Amman, Jordan. Dec. 8 2008

Posted by: icus at December 09, 2008 03:58 PM (mOFr4)

252 Frankly, it's almost refreshing to see a case that puts the "corrupt" back in "political corruption."
We've been navel gazing for so long at tempest-in-a-teacups like Plame, Gannon et.al, that when this thing comes along,ourprevious 24 hour news channel hypervention fests look childish.
You can always count on city of big shoulders to remind you that 19th century bana republics weren't the only ones who knew how to get down and get real.
Thank you, Gov, for allowing indignation worthy ofgrown ups again.

Posted by: RayMidge at December 09, 2008 03:59 PM (7up4j)

253 Does Obama's pattern of not knowing what the people around him are doing indicate that Obama is clueless?

Posted by: JohnJ at December 09, 2008 04:01 PM (k/60i)

254 That discussion came up at lunch today... the general consensus here was that imprisoned LA Governor Edwin Edwards wouldn't have been as brazen as Blago, especially on stuff like extorting a children's hospital and selling a US Senate appointment.

That's not to say we don't have corruption, but ours not only isn't in the same ballpark, it's not even the same goddamn sport.
I see. One LA politician in prison, another with $90,000 in his freezer... but kickbacks? Nooo... could never happen there.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 09, 2008 04:02 PM (rf03a)

255 So did that Texas sized prick, Ronnie Earle, ever manage to hang anything on Tom Delay? Haven't heard anything in the media about that in over a year.

Posted by: pendejo grande at December 09, 2008 04:06 PM (Eb4hF)

256 the depositions DO NOT SAY jack wanted jeri to fuck others. He was asking if she wanted other guys. It was a fantasy play between two adults in a private room playing out situations.
She was uncomfortable. There is NO coercian, there is no forcing, there wasn't even any fucking sex!!! It was just dirty talk.
Jesus Christ! the press REALLY told a LOT of fucking lies to get obama elected senator, shouldn't have been a surprise when he was running for president, but it was.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 04:09 PM (ul7te)

257 "“I like Bush. He made America weak.”
Taxi driver in Amman, Jordan. Dec. 8 2008"

The fact you would take an anecdote from a slightly educated cab driver in a second-world country without even a rudimentary an understanding of the founding principles of Western Civilization as some sort of indicator of the strength of America gives an indication of your cognitive ability, and significantly increases the statistical odds odd that you are a liberal.

Posted by: Lt. York at December 09, 2008 04:11 PM (u3pgy)

258 256

That discussion came up at lunch today... the general consensus
here was that imprisoned LA Governor Edwin Edwards wouldn't have been
as brazen as Blago, especially on stuff like extorting a children's
hospital and selling a US Senate appointment.




That's not to say we don't have corruption, but ours not only isn't in the same ballpark, it's not even the same goddamn sport.
I see. One LA politician in prison, another with $90,000 in his freezer... but kickbacks? Nooo... could never happen there.


*Edwards* wasn't in Blago's league.

William Jefferson is, however. I generally ignore him, though, because he's New Orleans-based and a US-level politician rather than a state-level politician. Jefferson was extorting foreign companies for cash and a cut of any business they got, IIRC.


My main point is that most of these politicians get their hands caught in the cookie jar on smaller stuff like kickbacks and grease payments while Blago was doing outright extortion.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 09, 2008 04:12 PM (mfBwq)

259 >> So did that Texas sized prick, Ronnie Earle, ever manage to hang anything on Tom Delay? Haven't heard anything in the media about that in over a year.

Nope. One charge tossed by Texas criminal court of appeals (the money laundering thing I think, the new law that wasn't in effect when the alleged offense occurred), the other stuff (conspiracy I think, shit it's been a long time) pending but no trial date set.
But Ronnie got what he wanted - a hit job on Delay. He doesn't really give a shit at this point.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at December 09, 2008 04:15 PM (VEBC3)

260 My main point is that most of these politicians get their hands caught in the cookie jar on smaller stuff like kickbacks and grease payments while Blago was doing outright extortion.
We only heard about this case because he got caught on tape. Certainly you don't believe that this shit doesn't go on all the time without anyone hearing about it or it being caught on tape.
It's not like they just decided to start taping Blago on a whim- no doubt there's ahistory of other similar shit he got away within his past that led to the scrutiny. For every Blago, there's likely another hundred pols doing the same thing but getting away with it.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 09, 2008 04:23 PM (rf03a)

261 I disagree with all this Chicago and Illinois bashing. No state is free of corruption. I mean, look at politicians like Murtha, Franks, Dodd, et al.They're obviously, clearly opportunistic crooks, yet still keep getting reelected. My own state, Indiana, has had a history of producing crooked senators like Schyler Colfax during the Civil War, down to Birch Bayh and Vance Hartke in the 1960's, with dozens in-between and since, all up to their ears in graft and shady dealings. Even now, graft is rife in Indianapolis and Gary and even in some ofthe smaller towns. Thing is, corruption becomes systemic and entrenched when one political party is the only game in town, as it has in Chicago. Another thing? We get what we deserve in a representative democracy. Overtly crooked politicians are symptoms, not the cause. If character traits such as honesty and thrift and self-control are increasingly rare in an electorate, why should we expect those qualities to magically appear in the elected?

Posted by: troyriser at December 09, 2008 04:24 PM (NfkMy)

262 Norquist is right, drown the fucker in a bathtub

Posted by: jcp at December 09, 2008 04:26 PM (DHNp4)

263 No state is free of corruption,
Spend an election year in the chicago area.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 04:27 PM (ul7te)

264 I'm going to concur with Brandon in BR. Political corruption happens in all states. And for all of the discussion of big city corruption, there's an amazing amount of outright graft and extortion that happens among local officials in rural areas. Still, the Blagojevich episode and the general pattern of corruption in Illinois is on a whole different level than what voters in other states would tolerate, and from what elected officials in other states would feel comfortable with. There are scandals and investigations from Blagojevich's first term that would have certainly had him tossed from office by voters or through impeachment in 90% of the other states. In IL, it barely raised eyebrows. Even in New Jersey and Louisiana, the only other two states with political cultures where people kind of openly laugh about corruption, I don't think you could have operated as brazenly as Blagojevich seems to have.

Posted by: Robert_Paulson at December 09, 2008 04:30 PM (zjgCD)

265 Dear #131:

I too am from Illinois, and yes, those of you taking pot shots at this state----
KEEP THEM COMING!
Our state sucks. It is that simple. Everything in this state is dictated by Chicago, and it is a rat's nest. It is so f-k'd up, Al Quaida won't even target it. One indictment at a time, the rest of America will wake up with that "not so spring time fresh feeling", hopefully before inauguration, because of who they elected.

Posted by: john at December 09, 2008 04:31 PM (Otpbv)

266 His NAME IS ROBET PUALSEN!

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 04:31 PM (ul7te)

267 I lived in Chicago for awhile in the 80's, Wickedpinto, and still visit it fairly often. It's a great city, with nothing so broken it can't be fixed. The good news, for Chicago and elsewhere: most rotten politicians are eventually caught. The bad news: we're a country held together by a faith in our institutions, and nothing shakes that faith more than political corruption. I've been to other countries--Mexico andTurkey come immediately to mind--where graft is the way of things, the rule and not the exception. We're not there, not yet.

Posted by: troyriser at December 09, 2008 04:36 PM (NfkMy)

268 Neat. Check out Drudge. Obama says he's had no contact with Blago over filling his senate seat, Axelrod is on record saying the opposite. It's a carnival.

Posted by: Methos at December 09, 2008 04:37 PM (cvMcH)

269 politics is FILTHY!!! city is beautiful.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 04:40 PM (ul7te)

270 One of the great things about chicago, is that you can care about it and not live in the state.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at December 09, 2008 04:41 PM (ul7te)

271 I'm going to concur with Brandon in BR. Political corruption happens in all states. And for all of the discussion of big city corruption, there's an amazing amount of outright graft and extortion that happens among local officials in rural areas. Still, the Blagojevich episode and the general pattern of corruption in Illinois is on a whole different level than what voters in other states would tolerate, and from what elected officials in other states would feel comfortable with.
It's not on a whole different level at all. Yes, it's bad- but is it really so different than the usual backscratching that goes on?
How is it that so many Senators go into office as upper middle class, and leave multimillionares? How is it that some of them manage to write books that almost no one reads, yet sells 10 million copies?
Had Blago not been so blatant and instead used a bit more nuance in the way he conducted his extortion, it would be seen as business as usual. It's not that hard to hint that you'd appreciate a cushy consulting job after the suject of a Senate appointment comes up without it being so blatant as Blago was.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 09, 2008 04:51 PM (rf03a)

272 So Blago was just more honest about his corruption were other politicians are more nuanced.

Posted by: Long Island at December 09, 2008 04:56 PM (XHzEP)

273 246
Seriously-can anyone from New York, New Jersey, Michigan,
Louisiana, Alabama, Pennsylvania, Ohio, etc really say with a straight
face that the same wouldn't have, couldn'tor hasn't happened there?




Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 09, 2008 03:45 PM (rf03a)

Half the politicians in NJ think Blago is a sucker for getting caught, and the other don't understand that what he did was wrong.

Posted by: Sean at December 09, 2008 05:18 PM (3LifV)

274 The same thing wouldn't have happened here. Not on my watch.

Posted by: Edwin Edwards at December 09, 2008 06:01 PM (9st3f)

275 Corruption has always been the hallmark of the Democratic Party. I grew up in Mo. where we had Tom Pendergast steal most of the western part of the state, but he brought us Harry Truman, the last good Democratic President (even if by accident). Siince then we have had Kennedy, Carter, Clinton and now BO....now we will see some real crooks at work. But some of them can be fun. In 1956 I was in Key West for the elections, the Democrat owned the Bud concession, the Repub owned the Miller, but in their debates I'll never forget the Dem turning to the Repub, shruging his shoulders, and responding to a well phrased arument why he should be elected, with this response "Well, my worthy opponent just gave you all an excellent reason to elect him, but I'll give you a better one, He's young and has to get his, I've been in office a while and I've got mine". Honesty in politics..ain't it wonderful

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