1 KP is more like a Mitch.. Mindless cunt of a bitch..

oow  look.. a new word right there..

2

I'm curious what college degree, if any, did Miss Parker earn in order to formulate the phrase "oogedy-boogedy"? Must be a Harvard Grad what a waste of money 

She can't talk her way out of being a babbling idiot.

3 I suspect Kathleen Parker had something to with burning down The Body Shop in LA.

She probably got oogledy-boogledy confused with jiggly-wiggly...

4 Kathleen Parker is Maureen Dowd, minus the Michael Douglas boink.

5

She and the rest of the liberal wing of the RINO party try to blame everyone else for destroying the Republican brand and getting the One elected. Until the cunts and cockholsters like her get purged the Republicans will be lucky if they can run for dogcatcher.

6 Is there available an English translation of Ms. Parker's column?

7 Parker is almost as pathetic as Sullivan. By the way when are you going to repost his rawmuscleglutes? He posted a picture of Governor Palin with his Trig trufer stuff.

8
So... exactly what percentage of the American public know who Andi, KP or Mo Dowd are? 

9

Even I'm offended by these anti-religious cranks and I'm not religious.

I've said it before:  The landscape of the liberal mind is drawn in crayon.

10 Who you gonna call?  Troll Busters!

As far as KP, I, for one, am always surprised to see people flaunt their bigotry so proudly.

11

Posted by: zxc at December 05, 2008 03:21 PM (8qYHo)

Yeah, thanks for the doublepost.  Ban hammer anyone?  "big black cunt's whore"?

12 Looks like we have a troll with Tourette's.

13 KP is a dumb bint that sold the party out for money.

K

14

It's true. She really is both odious and unreadable.

Shudder.

15 All this fuss because Parker's husband admitted that he thinks Sarah Palin is hot.  Newsflash, Kathleen:  it's not just your husband.  No heterosexual man would choose you over Sarah Palin, and it's only going to get worse.  You're awful.

16

So Kathleen Parker, like me, watched Bugs Bunny cartoons which featured "Nature Boy"

Oonga-boonga-binga-banga-bonga-bonga-bah

What'd I say? What'd I say?

What's next, Kathleen?  Cribbing neologisms from Mutley?

The ratzam-fratzam wing of the Republican party ....

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What's funny (to me) is Ed Rendell's characterization of Governor Palin as not being brilliant.  It brought to mnd Thomas Jefferson's eulogy for George Washington - though [Washington's] mind was not of the first order, he did have several redeeming qualities {paraphrased}.

 

17 >>> By the way when are you going to repost his rawmuscleglutes? He posted a picture of Governor Palin with his Trig trufer stuff.

I know, he got that pic right from that crazy site Jim26sch linked yesterday. So he's a fan.

I guess I'll post it. I haven't yet because people keep yelling at me when I mention it. It meaning sullivan.

18

the better question is how any editor let her put that stupid bullshit term into an actually printed article.

Ridiculous tripe.

19 I've said it before: The landscape of the liberal mind is drawn in crayon.

Crayon? Let's not besmirch the fine folks at Crayola--how about something more like fingerpaint.

20 Macaroni art?

21

As far as KP, I, for one, am always surprised to see people flaunt their bigotry so proudly.

Well remember Alex, its against White Christians.  And its perfectly acceptable to be bigotted against them.  Just ask the ACLU.

22 Meh, who cares what she says, writes, or thinks? She's just another sellout hack.

23 "I guess I'll post it. I haven't yet because people keep yelling at me when I mention it. It meaning sullivan."

Aw, geez, Ace.  I know it's a guilty pleasure, but I can never get enough of your Sullivan-bashing.  It's always a joy, and part of the ritual is to scream in the comments that he doesn't deserve the attention.  He doesn't, it's true, but I still crave it like Andrew craves shame, so keep dishing it if you've got it.

24

So.....inventing new words by combining two or more old words is what the cool kids are doing to deflect atttention away from the douchieness these days? Cool!! Let me try: Smarfukincunt.  Pronounced with the accents similar to "significant" or "magnificent". Combines smarmy, fucking, and cunt in a new way to mean basically........Kathleen Parker.

And to be quite honest, I don't think she invented oogedy-boogedy either. Us white boys were using that term in college to describe the music that our darker complected teammates were bringing in to the dressing room via their boom boxes. Mostly Rick James and James Brown if I remember correctly. Maybe a little Teddy Pendergrass. Yeah, I guess we were racists. Although, I kinda like James Brown's shit these days. Maybe I'm not a racist anymore.

25 I'm looking forward to her next article in which she theorizes why David Brooks totally wouldn't even look at her in the hallway.

26
I tried to leave my own "theory" about Trig at that foolish blog yesterday but it wasn't published.

I wrote that Palin was indeed pregnant but had an abortion and then stole a baby from the hospital. And Bristol is doing the same exact thing.

27 >>>the better question is how any editor let her put that stupid bullshit term into an actually printed article.

I believe National Review would like her to be gone, but can't fire her, which would feed her martyrdom.

So it could be her editor isn't editing -- deliberately. Allowing her to embarrass herself.

28 I had to pop my fist in the air after reading this.

Hysterical.

29 That doesn't really extend to Parker, however.  She really doesn't deserve this much attention.  Like Sullivan, she's a lightweight, but her downward spiral isn't nearly as interesting to hear about (secondhand, of course -- no traffic for Sully!).  She's just a lightweight.

30 someone wrote an email to me, which I can't confirm (having not been part of this), stating he'd called Rich Lowry about Kathleen Parker, and RL basically said all this -- yeah, she's awful, we want her gone, we deliberately bury her articles and deny them prominence, etc., but we can't fire her.

31 someone remind me again...just who the hell is the Kathleen Parker heifer?

32 She can't be fired?  How does that work?

33 That said, you do kind of have to dig around on NRO to find her.  She's not listed amongst either their writers or their syndicated columnists on their search page.

I hope that stings, at least.

34 she can be fired. there would just be fallout and screaming about a purge and etc.

That idiot Buckley didn't get fired -- he offered to resign -- and look at all the geschreien there.

35 She can't be fired?  How does that work?

It's probably in the contract that they agree to run her stuff for a set period of time.

36 she has lost her mind!

37 Did anyone actually make it to the end of that piece? What awful tripe....

38 R.S.McCain gives Parker a long, and richly deserved beating that was inspiring to read!

39 Well, if it's just a matter of how it looks, I wish Lowry, et al, would grow some testicles, fire her, and then make a forceful case for it.  Make a huge thing out of it, explaining that she's become an imbecile whose writings would be more appropriate on the Daily Kos or democraticunderground.

Point out that National Review doesn't run Maureen Dowd, so why should they bother running a pale imitation of Maureen Dowd?

Why do some conservatives always care so much about what liberals say about them?  Shouldn't a magazine like National Review have more stones than that?

40 If Parker is fired that'll just elevate her stature among the a-holes she's currently jumping into bed with via these stupid columns bashing Palin, bashing religious conservatives, etc.

41 I tried to leave my own "theory" about Trig at that foolish blog yesterday but it wasn't published.

Posted by: Bart at December 05, 2008 03:34 PM (aRBY

It's called a "queory".

42

someone feed kp some moose burgers

43 But hasn't she already been elevated by virtue of being criticized at all?  If she's going to get the elevation, anyway, she might as well get the full martyr treatment.

44 You guys get 5 stars today! Only one misogynist comment to critique KP. I'm not being sarcastic. On any liberal blog out there, half the thread would be full of knuckle dragging sexist bullsh*t. Even from women!
So congrats. Keep up the good work.

45 So was Coulter fired or not?

46 @44 go to hell you fucking douchebag

47 (the 44 that was just deleted) wow that was fast

48 R.S.McCain's commentary was excellent! I've said it before, and I'll say it again, KP is just plain stupid.

49 I scanned this article of hers.  She's just adding insult to injury.

She should know when to stop digging the hole.

50 Is it just me or does anybody else get the feeling that National Review is going under?
Damn shame if it does.  I've read that magazine since I was a kid.

51 Hey, Parker's the one who admitted to freaking out because her husband thinks teh Sarah is hot.  Her own sexism has been extraordinary to behold.

52 You are on the wrong thread zxc, not to mention the wrong blog. You need to go to racist_misogynist_twits.com

53

@46  Heh

Hey I got one!  BLORDS!!  Get it?  Blog Words      

See what I did there?

54 What's a 10 letter synonym for "irrelevant"? ........ Republican.

Oh look, my Messiah's on the TV. Awww, shit. My right breast is lactating again. And my asshole just got damp with sexual anticipation.

55

Note to Kathleen Parker:

If you have to explain the neologism, you've negated its utility.

Bloxican is unwieldy a term.  I suggest a simpler, thewier one:

Blargot

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56 I used to really like Kathleen Parker; whenever I saw one of her columns up at Real Clear Politics, I usually read it.

I simply have no idea of what is going through her head. She needs to pull the throttle back a few notches before she has to give up her career and be a Walmart greeter.

57 deliberately bury her articles and deny them prominence


Really? Because when I stopped by NRO this morning, about half the top posts were about this article of hers, and they weren't much about how "bullshitty" it is. They were more like: "See? She's completely reasonable about this, wingnuts. Finely nuanced, even. Always was. We knew it! ONE OF US."

58 Here's another reason to laugh at her: resident NRO loon Derbyshire thinks "Bloxicon" is "inspired":

http://tinyurl.com/5jgd9p

59 Ramesh already took her down several pegs on "The Corner".  Also not to be missed at "The Corner": John Derbyshire toddles up to the microphone and uncorks a banal non-sequitor in "response" to KP that only confirms that his sorry eeyore ass needs to be the next one out the door over there. 

60 "So was Coulter fired or not?"

Yeah, somehow they were able to do that and managed to endure the "outrage."

Honestly, if NRO is going under, they've got no one to blame but themselves.  Their best writers, guys like Steyn, will resurface quickly.

61 Ok, having the post number advance when something gets deleted is just wrong.

62

Sorry, Kathleen, Maureen and Peggy, you are trying very hard but you just don't seem to have "it".

63  love to see Palin field dress a caribou in front of kp and sullivan, imagine them shrieking at the same time.....Palin2012

64 She needs to go, or be sent, over to the Dark Side where her black heart already is anyway...

65

I tortured myself by reading Parkers entire article and I've got to tell you I still have no idea what oogedy boogedy means other than some kind of cutesy ill-defined slur against the religious.  Is it a noun a verb or an adjective?  Who cares.  Let's stop talking about her, she's uninteresting as most sell-outs and bigots are.  Let's talk about Sullivan who, while being a sell-out and bigoted, is at least interesting what with his bat shit insanity and all. 

OBTW I actually agree with her new point (she has actually stumbled onto a good point in trying to justify her earlier bigotry) that advocating socially conservative views using secular rather than religous arguments would be helpful.   

66 Are her blog hits even half of Hot Air or LGF?  Oh, she writes for newspapers ... so she offended some parakeets and was the last thing my snapper saw before the broiler ... oh well

67

I couldn't get past the first paragraph but if Parker thinks she came up with oogedy boogedy she's tripping.  That's been a long term sarcasim for describing something 'spooky'.  Usually said at the same time using a form of  'jazz hands'.

As a believer I really shouldn't say this but when Parker dies I hope St. Peter bends down and gets real close to her face and yells 'Ooogedy Boogedy' !

68 "Honestly, if NRO is going under, they've got no one to blame but themselves.  Their best writers, guys like Steyn, will resurface quickly."

Yep, I've got a short list of who's worth keeping: Steyn, Jonah, Levin ...

69 68:

Nordlinger for God's sake! That man is a national treasure but he doesn't post much in the Corner.

70 Ann Coulter is bigger, by far, than any particular publication, so much so that it is laughable to attribute her work to any particular one. She has a Rush-like fan base(and enemy base that reads her just as faithfully), and multiple best-sellers, so she can laugh at dying RINO organs like NRO.

71

"But hasn't she already been elevated by virtue of being criticized at all?"

Yeah, but I don't want to see her elevated any further. Plus, might as well keep her, bury her crap, and let conservatives tear her a new one after every increasingly idiotic column. Its kind of cathartic, actually...

72 Nordlinger!

Absolutely, can't believe I forgot him.

73

Nordlinger for God's sake! That man is a national treasure but he doesn't post much in the Corner.

Amen.

74 Derb will get himself fired on purpose.  I think he'll write an article like "Are the Birchers really so bad?" and they'll finally rid themselves of him.

75

Blargot

Hmmmm......  That's a very interesting Blord. 

76 Why does Hot Air keep linking her??? Also, maybe NRO shouldn't have her column displayed on their home page while they beg for donations.

77 A guest column at NRO takes another swipe at Parker:

http://tinyurl.com/5oaln4

78 I'm pretty amazed, actually, at the unanimity here.  I think Parker has a point.  The Republicans could use a lot fewer outspoken Mike "Nehemiah Scuddder" Huckabees and a lot more Fred "I don't really belong to a church and it's really none of your business anyway" Thompsons....

79 "Why does Hot Air keep linking her?"

Because Allahpundit feels the same way about Palin but doesn't want to be bothered repeating himself.

80 "I think Parker has a point."

Yeah, fine, but the more relevant point is that Parker has made of herself an imbecile and a laughingstock through her larger body of recent work.

Hell, Excitable Andi opposes government-run health care, but that doesn't make him any less of a loathsome cretin or any more worthy of legitimate consideration as an important thinker.

81 Also good at NRO: Byron York, Stanley Kurtz; they do good investigative journalism. Kurtz is the one that got a Chicago radio station call-spammed by Obamabots on direct orders from the O campaign when he appeared on a talk show.

And of course, VDH. But he's not strictly NRO.

82 Palin-inspired PDS is Palin's highest recommendation. People who are hated that much by commie-lib Dems and so effectively smoke out the traitors in our own camp have a great deal of value ongoing.

83 so-- sullivan is obsessed with Palin's uterus, kp is obsessed with Palin's looks, noonan is obsessed with Palin's popularity and buckley forgot who's testicle he is from, hey--Palin2012`

84 "I think Parker has a point.  The Republicans could use a lot fewer outspoken Mike 'Nehemiah Scuddder' Huckabees and a lot more Fred 'I don't really belong to a church and it's really none of your business anyway' Thompsons...."

Most of the people here would rather more Thompson's than Huckabee's.
Fred Thompson never looked down his nose at religion and, while he may not wear his religious feelings on his sleeve, he understands the importance of religious belief and will respect it.

Huckabee?  Well, people like him are the reason people look down their nose at religion.

85 I think the only reason the suits at NRO could fire Parker and not give a damn what others thought would be for her to start writing absolute anti-Semitic crap.

That was one thing that WFB did not tolerate.  He blew several people (Pat Buchanan comes to mind) out the door over it.

Not that the Left gets their panties in knots over anti-Semitism anymore.

86

I'm pretty amazed, actually, at the unanimity here.  I think Parker has a point.  The Republicans could use a lot fewer outspoken Mike "Nehemiah Scuddder" Huckabees and a lot more Fred "I don't really belong to a church and it's really none of your business anyway" Thompsons....

Let us know when she makes the point without being insulting to the "Huckabees" out there Wiz.

87

Verciengetorix,

Yeah, she used to pen some good columns that were very respectful of the military, a few supporting Iraq intervention, a couple scoffing at John Edwards, etc. Sadly, there now seems to be a new intelligentsia (of which she has become a prominent spokesperson) comprised of former RINOs or CINOs that have decided to forge a new career path by reserving their venom for blasting conservatives.

That being said, I hear Wiz (7.

88

<em>Huckabee?  Well, people like him are the reason people look down their nose at religion.</em>

Yes, that's exactly my point, and I think it was KP's, too.  Unfortunately it seems like the Mike Huckabees and Kathryn Lopezes are a lot more vocal and prominent within the GOP at the moment than the small-government types are, and it's alienating not only to moderates and liberals, but to "small-l"ibertarian folks like me.  What's worse, though, is that the social cons are jockeying for <em>greater</em> influence in the direction of the party, as if they aren't already at the wheel.  (Cf. Huckabee's recent interview with Glenn & Helen.)

89 I just want to see her write something about ooggity-boogitty (she misspelled it) Shintos, Buddhists, Muslims, Jainists, Native American or African Animists...

90 Why does NRO publish this nitwit's column?

91

I've been a subscriber to the actual NR magazine for over 10 years and I can't recall Parker ever being in print. She doesn't have what I would call a real prominent byline in NRO either. Just one of the columnists along the sides, never contributes to The Corner or gets a feature type billing. I've always associated her with being on Townhall.

Who knows, maybe these people are sincere with their Palin loathing and suddenly moving toward the Obama camp. But it looks weak to me, like the weenies who used to tag along with the currently cool BMOCs, hoping for table scraps.

 

92

Yes, that's exactly my point, and I think it was KP's, too.  Unfortunately it seems like the Mike Huckabees and Kathryn Lopezes are a lot more vocal and prominent within the GOP at the moment than the small-government types are, and it's alienating not only to moderates and liberals, but to "small-l"ibertarian folks like me.

So you would prefer to alienate these people instead?  Please explain how being insulting to religion is a positive step for the GOP.  We get it.  You don't want God to have the lone seat at the front table.  Think you can get the point across without trying to throw him out of the room so to speak?

93 88:

Since when is Kathryn Lopez a Huckabee-type?!?! Because she talks about being Catholic once in a while? Like WFB?

94

Wiz at December 05, 2008 04:50 PM (My+7t)

The socons are only advocating their position and people like KP find that offensive and counter productive.  So instead of advocating their position as strongly as the socons, they get aggravated and blame the socons for their successful advocation.  Sounds like resentment to me. 

Though some socons criticize the secular conservatives / libertarians, the great majority simply push their positions without having to deginerate the other side with name calling.  Again there are exceptions.  Maybe KP is just an exception for the secular conservatives.  

95

50 Is it just me or does anybody else get the feeling that National Review is going under?
Damn shame if it does.  I've read that magazine since I was a kid

---

The National Review? OK, now I see KP's confusion. SHE thought she was a writer for the National Enquirer and in keeping with that, wrote the insane babbling nonsense. Though I admit NE, does have their standards ( asl ow as they are) and KP just wouldn't measure up to theirs.

"I got breast implants and now my boobs glow in the dark" was a better story than hers

96 Bloxicon?  Seriously?  Blexicon, maybe, but bloxicon sounds just wrong.  It's a blog, not a block, but whatever.

The worst thing about the oogedy-boogedy remark was having to read asshat liberals repeat it ad naseum, as if it had more credibility because it came from "one of our own."  One of our own, my ass!  Unless you mean, one of our own turncoat opportunists latching onto Obama's coattails hoping to find some relevancy.

97 But it looks weak to me, like the weenies who used to tag along with the currently cool BMOCs, hoping for table scraps.

Very definitely.  It was appalling to me how quickly all the rats ran down the ship's gangplanks.

Same thing going on with the birth certificate deal.  Anybody who wants to see the official long-form birth certificate (not to mention all the other hidden documents) has got to be a "birther" nutcase.

Cause you know, nothing is crazier than to expect honesty and transparency from a president-to-be.

I swear, these people would sell their frickin souls just to be cool, get invited to parties, and get the table scraps.  And sell out our Constitution and us with it.

98
I guess Parker coined "oogedy-boogedy" because "mumbo-jumbo", "hocus-pocus", and "jigaboo" were already taken. I wonder if she was thinking of the Oogie-Boogie Man from Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas.

99

Kathleen Parker didn't introduce me to 'Oogity-Boogity' as a phrase anymore than she invented the phrase 'Mumbo-jumbo'.  Little kids have been jumping out of closets and dark corners and yelling ooga-booga or booga-booga or boogity or oogity-boogity for a long time. 

In Slavic 'bog' means god usually referring to Satan.  In Norse bogey was a night spirit.  English cognates were bugbear, bugaboo, and boggle-bo.  Recently in 1987 there was a silly haunted house children's movie made for TV called Mr. Boogity.  While inhabiting the body of a family's father he'd say, "Boogity Boogity Boo" and the like.  I know KP didn't claim to have invented the phrase, but to have brought it to the blogging lexicon.  It just isn't so.

100 "Yes, that's exactly my point, and I think it was KP's, too."

I'm distrustful of politicians who wear there religion on their sleeves and I get really iffy about clergy who leave their vocation to take up politics.
But KP took a broader swipe at people whose religious beliefs inform their values upon which they vote.
 I know that there are social "conservatives" who believe that that they have a mandate to go beyond their democratic rights and actually impose their religious beliefs on the majority simply because they believe they are right (a certain ROP come to mind).  But there are similarly inclined "libertarians" who do the same thing with their own values.
The fact is, I have right to vote for anything even if the reasons for doing so are based on my religious beliefs.
And if the majority of people disagree with me (such as abortion) then I get to live with it, but if the majority agree with me (such as gay marriage) then you get to live with it.
I don't think you people understand that.

101

Mark Levin made an excellent point about those who worry that religious cons care nothing for small government:

"Let me also suggest that in many ways it is the "religious conservative" who is provoked — by the courts, by liberal governors, etc. I wish the government and some of these politicians would behave more "constitutionally."   As for Huckabee, while he may be religious he is certainly along the same vein as Jimmy Carter when it comes to mixing politics and religion; both operate far from basic COnservative principles. 

 

 

 

102 You're welcome.  And thanks for the thanks (if, of course, you were thanking me).

103 Pondering for a moment on Mark Levin's thought, if not for the judical fiat which imposed a law upon the land that was never duly legislated then Roe v Wade would have not inspired the 'religious conservative' to involve themselves so deeply in political games.

104

NR isn't publishing Parker's tripe anymore, are they? Just linking to her syndicated column to dis her. They are going down, though, and I've been reading them for like 25 years. NRO is hijacked by K-Lo, a simian talent who doesn't realize an EDITOR edits. They don't write half of all the posts, and they certainly don't write 10 in a row as the quasi-official organ of the Catholic Register. Nothing wrong with that, but it's out of place.

Now, to KP: she went to Converse, that hoity-toity (not to be confused with oogedy-boogedy) girls' finishing school in South Carolina (still lives in Camden, too) but apparently went out west to graduate. She is a meagre writer who went starry-eyed when she got on with the Washington Post Writers Group. I think I used to read her in the Orlando Sentinel, and she was with Creators Syndicate, but I may be mistaken. I drinks a lot.

If she's never been to a good old fashioned brush arbor revival in the deep south, replete with snake handling and speaking in tongues, she has no fucking idea how scary the oogedy-boogedy can get. I'm sure she read about it somewhere, though, and filed the thought in her botoxicon.

105

Allah, he really does think he's god doesn't he, has a crush on one Alaskan gal at a time; Kirsten Powers, so Sarah's out. I was all set to chip in to NRO but then they put up yet another column by Kathleen Parker. Ponnuru, seems to follow a similar angle, even he wrote the book "Party of Death" about the Democrats. It's looking more and more like the party of Moloch, complete with human sacrifices. Look if Parker, Noonan, Buckley and Brooks, admit they like liberalism more, that's fine but that doesn't mean they get to call themselves conservative; Noonan seem to apologize with a column thanking President Bush for keeping us safe; but where was this appreciation when it counted,

So what do you think about this extra layer of moose offal, they're trying to throw on Sarah, re the clothes, and the hairstylists, will it stick. How much of it is even true,? most of the sites had no FEC links, looks like most of the tidbits is coming from CREW, the liberal counterpart to Judicial Watch who launched the whole Marc Foley investigation.

106 More like Ivins than Dowd, except Ivins at least had the good grace to stop wasting air and ink. 

107

93: Since when is Kathryn Lopez a Huckabee-type?!?! Because she talks about being Catholic once in a while?

You're kidding, right? The only thing she ever talks about beside abortion is Duran-Duran.

94: The socons are only advocating their position and people like KP find that offensive and counter productive.

Let's talk about Huckabee amending the Constitution to more closely align it with God's plan again. Yes, I find it both offensive and counterproductive.  But then I'm just a "faux-con" and my opinion is not especially relevant to him.

108 "I was all set to chip in to NRO"

Anyone who has the same impulse:

Send the money to Ace instead.

At least it'll be spent on honest Val-U-Rite and not supporting the ravings of a fool like Parker.

109 You're welcome.  And thanks for the thanks (if, of course, you were thanking me).

Posted by: The Watcher at December 05, 2008 05:43 PM (LRbd/)


I'm pretty sure Ace was thanking me for the link I dropped in the war porn post... unless maybe you sent him an email or something.

110

Hey Wiz,

Please explain to us how insulting religious people is beneficial to the Republican party.  If you can't do that then shut the fuck up.  You're not a Faux-con.  You're a fucking moron.  Not every religious social conservative out there is Huckabee.  In fact you're the only nit-wit here to have brought him up.  Quit using him as your attempt to bash social conservatives.

111 You're kidding, right? The only thing she ever talks about beside abortion is Duran-Duran.

How is abortion merely a "religious" issue and how does that make her like Huckabee who's as much a socialist as he is pro-life? Last I looked, K-Lo isn't calling for compassionate conservatism on steroids.

Furthermore, I'm not even religious but I'm damn sure abortion is wrong even if there's no God, no souls, no nothing--you don't?

So, again: how is KL like Mike Huckabee? They both like Duran Duran?

112 110 @ Not every religious social conservative out there is Huckabee.  In fact you're the only nit-wit here to have brought him up.  Quit using him as your attempt to bash social conservatives.


as a religious conservative, I would have never voted for Huckabee..

(Palin, yes.. in an instant) 

it's a free will/ free choice thing..  when Huck wants bans on smoking or trans fat.. that's my dis-qualifier for him..  (the free choice only goes so far.. pretty soon the life of an unborn would be in play for a 'choice')

113 Parker is a floppy eared dog looking skank that I wouldn't drill with a borrowed dick, so there's that. Her writing style lacks only one thing: style, any style.
She also lacks talent.
Ace, as a regular here, and a person who advised you soundly about your sleep related troubles, can I ask a favor? If you repost that god-awful 'rawmuscleglutes' thread in part or whole-cloth, how about  deleting the link to pecker-boy Sullivan's actual ad? I'm not squeamish, having seen alot of blood and other things in my career but that ad was both sleazy and surreal. It was nauseating in a way that open sewage is, kinda rank and filthy.
Just my opinion, is all. This is your tree,Ace, and we're just low hanging nuts and blooming idiots so do as thou wilt,oh Lord of the Tree...
And since Sully has the Ninja, also known as the "silent killer", or Ass Pounders cancer, it's only a matter of time before his Trig-truthering days are cut down to nothing.
Rawmuscleglutes? Meet dyinmuscleglutes.

There, I feel better.

114 Does Sully really have the ass cancer?

He finally received his 'gift'?

115

I couldn't get past the part about the bloxicon.

That and the bits about the tweets really is worthy of Dowd herself. How fucking vapid and contrived can one be?

116 In Slavic 'bog' means god usually referring to Satan.

Bullshit. The root bog/bozh refers generically to deities, without attributing either evilness or goodness to the god(s) in question. However, when capitalized, it invariably refers to the monotheistic Judeo-Christian deity.

117 Yes it's true, Parker has a miniscule point.  I believe the Republican Party is viewed by many as betrothed to evangelicals, and basically as the 'party of God'.  And, if the Republican Party is to make an attempt to court these potential voters, it will have to change its image.  But Parker misses three glaring other points:
1. The people who view the GOP condescendingly as the Party of God aren't likely to vote for the GOP anyway, even with a change of image - they are the city-dwelling elitists who are easily bedazzled by the likes of Obama and can't understand why many Republicans were excited about Palin, religiosity or not, because "she's stupid".  You know, like the people in Parker's cocktail party circuit in New York.  In short, the Republican Party would have to change a lot more than it's religious image to successfully obtain these voters' votes, and hence would cease to be conservative.
2. Parker makes it seem like it's all the socon's fault that the Republican Party has this image.  It's not.  The left has successfully portrayed any attempt to oppose abortion, for instance, as religiously motivated, when as she herself admits, there's plenty of nonreligious arguments against abortion.  And of course they have a strong political motivation to do so.  Why isn't she complaining about her liberal friends who simply refuse to recognize the humanist dimension to the pro-life movement?  Why isn't she criticizing the leftists who play political games with innocent human lives?  No, instead...
3. She can't make the point without insulting and demeaning socons.  As others have noted, even after reading the entire article you still don't have a clear understanding of what she intends "oogedy-boogedy" is supposed to mean, and the reason is obvious: it's purposely designed to be an offensive term and she is unwilling to state so openly.  Sorry KP.  The jig is up.  Your lame explanation doesn't wash.

118 I thought "KP" was reserved for Kirsten Powers, who I would bang like a screen door in a hurricane, regardless of her lefty inclination. Kathleen Parker? Not so much

119 To Wiz and the other fools who want to drive the Christians out of the Republican party: Can you count?

I ask because I'm curious where you think we get the votes to win any significant office without a base.  There was a period where we stayed out of politics due to the way we were treated following the Evolution trial, up until Reagan.  How did the Republican party fare during that time?

The middle of this country isn't anti-Christian, it was anti-Bush due to 8 years of relentless unanswered attacks by America's domestic enemies Democrats and their media on the war.  It became acute due to the fake credit crisis (during which I received three offers for new credit cards, no questions asked) and resulting Congressional robbery bailout.  4 years of Obama uh-and-uhming his way through a job he had no business seeking are likely to cure most Americans of their flirtation with the Dems.  So I suggest you learn some patience and wait.

Or, if you want a party free of God, go be a Democrat.  See how willing they are to allow your opinion.

120

* Which is a position that doesn't need filling, as we already have a Maureen Dowd minus the talent. We call her "Maureen Dowd"

Fucking brilliant.

121 Can you picture KP and Andrea Mitchell standing by their lockers in school swooning and sighing when Barry walks by them.  Then whisper behind their Trappers what a bitch that Sarah Palin is when she walks by with the captain of the hockey team.  They are both juvenile.  I wonder how old Alan G feels when he's giving Andrea the high hard one (eeewwwww) and she screams out Barry! Barry! Barry!

122 You're welcome. And thanks for the thanks (if, of course, you were thanking me). Posted by: The Watcher at December 05, 2008 05:43 PM (LRbd/) I'm pretty sure Ace was thanking me for the link I dropped in the war porn post... unless maybe you sent him an email or something. Okay. Was kind of surprised he'd be thanking me. *chuckle*

123 You denounce yourself, before hand, Mrs. Paul's, that was indeed a disturbing image; Not Rosie O'Donnell or Helen Thomas, but disturbing nonetheless. This doesn't strike me as an Oogedy Boogedy blog, what is Kathleen Parker, 12 now, more like South Park/Robot Chicken; except for the hobo hunting.

124 If I promise to dogfuck Kathleen Parker like no other woman exists, will she shut up?

125 I think oogedy-boogedy is the equivalent of "Hiya-ya-ya hiya-ya-ya WOOWOOWOOWOO!!" while making scalping gestures for American Indians.  Only it's for poor white folks, so it's fun.  See?

126

Isn't "oogedy boogedy" what Daryl Waltrip used to say as the NASCAR pack charged out of Turn Four toward the green flag? "Let's go racin'!"

Well, isn't it?

127 who I would bang like a screen door in a hurricane

hahahah!  I never heard that one.

128

Hey Kathleen Parker...nah never mind your nasty smelly shit aint worth insulting.

129 As a faithful reader of NRO in print and online, KP is nothing more than the latest Arianna Huffington looking for a sugar-daddy Soros to make her into something interesting and wealthier.

Lowry needs to grow a pair pretty damn fast and clean up the legacy of Wm. F. Buckley in spite of his son's utter inability to give a shit.

If Lowry fails, NR is over and so is my living reminder in my mailbox that once upon a time there were decent humans in this country who gave a shit about fighting the Commie bastard influences in this world.

130 I'm starting to think that brie has some kind of psychopharmacologically hypnotic effects that render its addicts credulous in the extreme. It's like they proceed directly from hearing that Chistianists have declared ^{WAR ON SCIENCE} and are openly conspiring to install a theocracy, Palin bans books and dosen't believe in dinosaurs, moderates are electable, eletist = intellectual, etc, to taking the certainty that these assertions are true to their graves. Either that, or the whole northeast is pretty much just a giant high school.

131 Can you even *imagine* what the stink would be if she said "oogidy-boogidy" in relation to anything related to persons of color?

132

Buzzion-

Hey, thanks for engaging, man.

The point I'm trying to make is that neither the social conservatives nor the libertarians have a majority.  We used to have a useful coalition based on smaller governement, lower taxes, etc.  As the social cons have gained the upper hand within the party, they have begun talking about driving the libertarians out, or at least making them sit down and shut up like good lickspittles.  I don't think it makes me a "fucking moron," to use your eloquent description, to point out that this bothers me.  Your "shut the fuck up," however demonstrates your agreement with the idea.

I think large blocks of potentially pursuadable voters are very put off by the perception that you must be an active churchgoer to be welcome.  I suspect most people, even if they have a faith, just don't want to talk about it.  It's part of the traditional Protestant thing that it's actually kind of rude to talk about religion at all, and it makes people very uncomfortable.  Especially if it makes them feel unwelcome.

133

119: To Wiz and the other fools who want to drive the Christians out of the Republican party

Don't try the projection thing.  That's what Democrats try to do all the time.  No one is trying to drive the religious right out of the party.  It would be nice, however, if some other people besides them were allowed to have a voice in the party on occasion.

I don't understand why this is so controversial, really.

134 Huckabee Leads in 2012 GOP Preference Polling. We back in the game, baby.

135

110 & 112: Huckabee is the most prominent and influential member of the religious conservative movement at the moment, so he's a useful examplar.  I know there are social cons who did not find him an attractive candidate -- may be you guys are some of them -- but in my part of the country, he's very, very popular.

I think he also is an example of what we're talking about here - people who can't separate their religion form their politics.  And further, people who want religion to play a larger part in forming Republican policy.

So once again, why is it controversial to state that I think this is a problem?

136 I think he also is an example of what we're talking about here - people who can't separate their religion form their politics.

Sorry, but isn't that true on the "secular" left as well? Environmentalism has essentially become the religion of the left, and the greenies have far more influence over Democrats than social-cons do over the right. You can't even talk about Jesus Christ in a classroom, but indoctrination in Global Warming hokum goes on 24-7 at taxpayer expense.

But, in any case, why are social conservatives expected to make all of the compromises in order to bring party unity? Social cons are asked to give up on the abortion plank, give up on defending people's right to speak their religious conscience in public forums, give up on opposition to redefining marriage... and the libertarian wing is asked to compromise on what?

137 Don't put words in my mouth.  I didn't say people can't discuss their religion in public.  I did say that it can make some other people uncomfortable, and there seems to be very little awareness of that.  I may be a little oversensitive to it because I'm surrounded by people like that.  My step-mother, in particular, can't end a sentence without mentioning Jesus, and it gets wearing after a while.  You know, I just want to talk with my dad about the football game, and maybe God didn't guide the ball.  Maybe He was busy, and the QB's years of practice paid off.

On abortion, hey, I'd like to see Roe v. Wade overturned as much as the next person.  My reasoning for it may be different - I think it's an abomination from a Constitutional standpoint, and the issue should be returned to the Several States where it belongs.  So since we agree on the policy direction, why can't we argue about the issue on its legal and Constitutional merits, just for variety?

But in point of fact, I'm not a single-issue voter, and if I were, abortion would not be that issue.  I think, as Jonah Goldberg suggested a few years back, the vast majority of people in the country don't completely agree with either of the vocal parties, and in the absence of any likely compromise, they just kind of wish the issue would go away, and that we could talk about something else for a while.

And to further answer your question, the libertarian wing has already compromised on the whole "compassionate conservatism" project, NCLB, etc., all the big government intrusions.  We've lent our support because we agree on many of the other issues of the day -- I figure, when the terrorists are dead, we can have a nice long debate about domestic policy. 

But the most vocal spokespeople the Republican party has right now are all social conservatives, (except John McCain, who's also no friend to libertarians) and when libertarians suggest that maybe there are also some other issues to talk about and other ways of arguing about the issues we agree on, let's just say our ideas are not welcomed.

In point of fact, to turn the question around, V the K, I can't think of any issue on which the Religious Right has compromised in any way, that hasn't also affected the libertarian wing equally or moreso.

138

But, in any case, why are social conservatives expected to make all of the compromises in order to bring party unity? Social cons are asked to give up on the abortion plank, give up on defending people's right to speak their religious conscience in public forums, give up on opposition to redefining marriage...

No, no they're not.

The only pro-choice dude in the nomination process was Juliani who hardly even ran and won nothing in terms of support.

Social conservatives are not expected to give up on abortion. They're expected to find a candidate who wants to protect children from trans-fatty acid less then he wants to protect them from abortion.

139

Huckabee, again, Ok it's within the margin of error, and it's a CNN poll; but this qualifies in Vanderleun's category; "Republicans they thirst for death". Maybe it applies to spare Sarah and her family any  more hardship, and frankly there are too many crazy people out there, inflamed with PDS, who might want to harm her or her kids  I get that, but if she really wants it she's earned a shot. Sometimes I think we don't deserve to have anyone who's sacrificed so much, who weathered so much crap, for her values. We deserve some time serving RINO like Pawlenty, or Crist, so we can lose, but lose with dignity; and lose another piece of the Republic along with it. That 20% of self described 'conservatives' who refused to vote because McCain wasn't pure enough, like his kinsman Robert McCain I can barely stand; he takes credit for victories like the Chambliss runoff that we wouldn't have needed to fight, if he hadn't signaled defeat before. When Holder takes your gun and the FCC gags talk radio and then the blogs, when we're defenseless before Russian and Iranian missiles and there are gas lines, they'll say we put up a good fight when they surrendered the fight. Sarah there was a risk postponing off the fight against the corrupt oil based establishment in Alaska which would rather drill in Saudi or the Sudan than in our own country. But she also knew the Trans Gas pipeline and ANWR can only be secured from Washington. That the fate of her infant son , and many like him, who would be sacrificed to abortion.; sadly lies with the Courts. She believed in the fight against Islamic extremism, in part as a Christian, so she allowed her son to take up the post in Iraq. Those who gave up because they thought the stakes weren't high enough, sadly they will learn how wrong their judgement was. Huckabee, seriously the pro sales tax, teetotaling, foreign policy dove, on Iraq and Cuba, Venezuela,

 

 

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