1 Plaxico is retarded, but Bloomberg has shown himself to be a world-class schmuck.  No Giants fan should (or, I suspect, will) ever support him again.

2 Kopel's almost certainly right. The New York --and especially NYC -- gun laws are an unconstitutional joke for many reasons. But Plaxico is not the poster boy or ideal test case.

3 Alcohol was involved?  Seriously?  I would have never seen that coming.

4 I hope that NY's dumb ass laws get overturned.  Yes, the Sullivan Act applies to the whole state!  I found this out the hard way.  But please note this is the city that sent it's own cops to attempt to make "straw" purchases in Virginia, so the Constitution or obeying the laws of VA aren't a priority for these people.  And as for political clout, the writer is correct.  Guess what asshole got a CCW in NY?  Harvey Keitel...NY and NJ gun laws are simply a way to say "Fuck You" to the average, "unconnected" subject of that particular oblast.      

5 Seatpants? He put it in the waistband of sweatpants? He should go to jail just for that. Idiot. Even if they were to overturn NY permit law it won't help him.
He would still have the drinking and taking it into a bar to contend with.
Even if he had a NY permit that would still be illegal.

6 make that sweatpants...

7 All gun control laws are unconstitutional and they should repeal them all including the GUN CONTROL ACT OF 1968,THE BRADY GUN LAW, and all the other gun ban laws and we should have nothing to do with the UN s sinister world wide gun ban GET OURSELVES OUT OF THE UN

8 What a friggin' retard.

I was wondering how he managed to shoot himself by accident with a .40 Glock considering there's a trigger-safety.  Accidentally pulling the trigger while trying to recover it from the crotch of your sweatpants *would* do it...

9 I agree that NY gun laws (especially in NYC) are retarded and unconstitutional but I'd be careful about making this jackass the poster boy for 2nd Amendment rights in NY.

I support gun rights and would love to get a carry permit in NY without having to justify my reasons why to a judge (it's totally up to the county judges in NY outside of NYC) but I don't have a problem with some basic training and competency (of course I think that should be required to vote as well).

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I'll be right back.

Was there a bullshit constitutional argument made by someone who wasn't gabe?  and was it clearly expressed as sarcasm rather than egotism?

Okay, second pair of underwear.

11

I'm not defending Burress's actions or his character in general, but frankly Bloomberg's and the NYPD's position seems to be based entirely on being the best-armed gang in the geography: "Do as we say, or we'll jail or kill you."

12 He put it in the waistband of sweatpants? He should go to jail just for that.

That's the first thing I thought of; the law may be unconstitutional (in fact I'm pretty sure it is) but he just violated felonious levels of dumbfuckery by shoving it in the waist of goddamn sweatpants.

This bullshit behavior didn't begin last week; even when he was at Pittsburgh when he came to a fork in the road he always went off in the direction of Dumbassville.

13 "In New York City, carry permits are issued, but to applicants with some form of political clout'

that's the trouble, with his paycheck dead-eye burris should have been able to find the necessary access and pay the appropriate fee.

14 We're being sandbagged.

Drew is right that this guy cannot be the poster child for gun ownership.  Responsible citizens like Keller should be.  Drunks running around like fools is exactly how the NYT wants us to be portrayed.

15

It is unconstitutional for him not to be allowed to carry a firearm but the jackass should do some jail time for discharging a weapon in a public place.  Its all cool now that he only shot himself but that was just luck.

Also in most states , even if you have a license you are not allowed to carry inside an establishment whose main business revenue is the sale of alcohol for consumption on premises

16 What do you expect from someone named "Plaxico"?

17

I just bought an illegal gun when I was worried about my safety when I was 15.

18

True story,

I was suspended for having a knife on me when I was a freshman.  What made it funny, is that I had a loaded gun in my waisteband (never fired it ironicly, I think it was a titan .380)  and I couldn't help but laugh during the suspension.

19 Holy Crap!!  WP, just answered the age old question, "What kinda guy takes a knife to a gun fight?" 

20 Burris is just a dumbass to begin with, as are most pro athletes. They get a free ride through high school and college when they show the least bit of talent. They have parents, teachers and coaches covering for them at every turn, and if they make it to the pros, they have agents, coaches, and lawyers covering for them.

When you have to have a class for freshman pro athletes on how to behave, manage your money, etc., then somewhere along the line someone has screwed up in teaching these kids about responsibility.

Ditka is a moron for wanting pro football players to give up their 2A rights just because they play pro football. He's been brainwashed by all the Chicago anti-gun crap.

I hope Burris gets the full 42 months of prison time, to make him an example that you can be Felony Stupid.

21 Self-inflicted gunshot wounds shall henceforth be known as "Plaxicos."

22

He put it in the waistband of sweatpants? He should go to jail just for that. Idiot.

Is there such a thing in New York as criminal negligence?  If there is and it offers less jail time, Burress may want to try consider negotiating to plead guilty to that.

23 I have no problem with him carrying the gun, but he should get at least 5 years in prison for wearing sweatpants to a nightclub.

24

Self-inflicted gunshot wounds shall henceforth be known as "Plaxicos."

I've heard on Bob and Tom the creation of the word Plaxident.  The definition being an accident that costs you $35 million.  Don't remember who actually coined it though.

25 When you have to have a class for freshman pro athletes on how to behave, manage your money, etc., then somewhere along the line someone has screwed up in teaching these kids about responsibility.

As far as behavior and money-management, they're not that much different than any other kid out of college in a "real job" for the first time.  They just have more money and more free time to screw up off the clock.

26 The only one looking dumber than Plax?  Bloomberg.

27

What happens to his teammae who took the gun from NY to NJ? is that a fed offense?

28

Burress is a galactic dumbass, but the way Bloomberg and other nanny assholes are reacting is comparably stupid. Tom Jackson said on ESPN Sunday that the NFL should not allow players to own guns. Seriously.

Hey, every NFL player that's not a total moron; suck it, you can't be treated like an American adult. Thanks, Tom Jackson.

29 Can employers legally force people to give up their constitutional rights as a condition of employment?  "You can't bring your gun to work" is a lot different than "you can't own a gun, period."

...and a gun may have saved Sean Taylor.  You never know.

30 sweatpants? Cockholster!

31 So it's legal for me to shoot NJ/NYers, from the Pa side of the Delaware River?    Or do I have to wait for their fucking U-Haul to be on the Delaware Water Gap Bridge?

32 When I got my CCP, I was told not to take it to 1) Federal buildings, post offices etc...2)Banks and 3) Any establishment that serves alcohol...Btw I can loan a rifle/shotgun to a friend, but a handgun may never leave my possession.  I'm in deep shit if a friend has my pistol w/o me present.

33

Was it a Glock .40?

If you're going to be a moron and insist on carrying 'Mexican-style' (stuffed into waistband, no holster) you should at least carry a weapon with a grip or switch safety.

Also, sweatpants?  How the hell are sweatpants going to support a brick-like gun such as a full-sized Glock?  No wonder it fell.  He should be glad it didn't slide down the inside of his pants-leg and put a slug in the 'ol family jewels.

Unless he was wearing a sweatpants with a belt, which would be awesome.

 

PS.  Yeah, the gun laws are stupid.  I carry, but I am forced to get a permit from the Sheriff.  And I don't wear sweatpants...

34 33

Was it a Glock .40?

That's what the TV reports say... a .40 Glock, but not a specific model number like the G22, G23, G24, G35, etc.

35 I suspect that the NY DA will deal Plaxico because he has the resources and visibility to take this one all the way; where they might lose.  The case has the star power to attract good attorneys, will be in the news, and Plaxico may have to fund the fight to keep playing.

36

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In related news, Eli Manning shot himself at a Chuck E Cheese

37 31 So it's legal for me to shoot NJ/NYers, from the Pa side of the Delaware River?    Or do I have to wait for their fucking U-Haul to be on the Delaware Water Gap Bridge?

Posted by: hutch1200 at December 04, 2008 04:27 PM (InVQk)

It's too late now, that should have been done long ago. Even if we closed the bridge it's too late. Wearing sweatpants to a bar AND sticking a gun in the waist band? I think Plax might have a pretty strong case if he pleads insanity.

38

seriously if this is what it takes so i can carry in ny it was a good shot.

fucking new york thought i was making a good move when i came to the peoples republic of connecticut....

and plaxy crossbreed supertuck...will work even with sweatpants douche nozzle.

39  OK, first:  Plax is dumb.  Plax did break the law.  Plax deserves some punishment.

That said....3.5 years in prison for a guy with no criminal record of any kind for shooting himself in the leg is horseshit.  He might not be the world's most diligent employee, but he's not a Ron Mexico/Ray Lewis type thug. His teammate, Steve Smith, was robbed at gunpoint shortly before this incident.  His motivation was clearly self-defense.  Doesn't make what he did right, of course, but the guy isn't some archcriminal.  And Bloomberg is the worst kind of preening jackass.  How'd that Sean Bell case go, Mike?

Something like a plea to reckless endangerment and  a 6-12 month sentence sounds reasonable to me.

40

If conservative states that do not allow gay marriage are forced to recognize the marriage licenses/statuses of gays married in liberal states that do, couldn't some conservative lawyer tie the 2nd amendment to that same wagon with regard to permits and conceal/carry laws?  After all, which is more explicitly listed as a right?

I'm no attorney but some ipso facto seems to be needed here.

41

Fuck Plaxico.  Dumb bastard was walking around with not just a loaded gun, but a loaded, cocked, gun with no safety!

Thankfully he only shot himself and not some hapless bar patron.  The more I think about it the pisster I get.  Fuck him again.

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