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| SMH columnist: Global warming a "fundamentalist religion"I think the Sydney Morning Herald will get some ummm....feedback over this. ...the real fear driving climate alarmists wild is that a more rational approach to the fundamentalist religion of global warming may be in the ascendancy...Disciples, heretics, thought criminals, saints, banishment, and high priests. Yea, they do pretty much got the religion angle covered quite well it would seem. I'm just saying... Comments1
Glad more people are picking up on this. It is a religion.
Has a flood. End of the world scenario. Tithing. Indulgences. Posted by: lorien1973 at November 28, 2008 02:55 PM (IhQuA) 2
One of the few truly great conservative scholars of the 20th century dedicated much of his attention to this topic. If you want to treat this topic as more than just a joke, I reccomend that every conservative read Eric Voegelin. In particular, his articulation of the appropriation of Gnostic symbolism and millenarian paranoia by 20th Century mass movements is life changing. Start with the essay "What is History" and move on from there.
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Please pray for the Herald's Miranda Devine. She may need a new job or a plane ticket real real soon.
Posted by: kiffen at November 28, 2008 02:57 PM (XnuxH) 4
What is truly sad is that we are about to embark on this journey into the ultimate scamdon when we are on the onset of a new cooling spell that could be the next mini-iceage as happened in the 1600s. We have already seen to years of late springs with record setting lows and late freezes as well as two years of early winters and record setting lows. We here in SC have already had lows in the teens in November.
That is exactly how the last ice age started, the winters came earlier and stayed longer and longer until, at its peak, there was no summer. Millions died from starvation and plague brought on by the reduced resistance to disease.
We had a topic last week dedicated to “irony”. This is the true irony. We will be taxing industry into oblivion and rushing into socialism while using “warming” as an excuse. What little corn we will be able to grow in the non-existant summers will be used to make ethonol, again using warming as an excuse. Now that is true irony for the population starving and freezing to death. Posted by: Vic at November 28, 2008 03:07 PM (Qd7GC) 5
I'm sure there will be people who will hire her... but yeah, these are interesting days to be an AGW heretic... tmi3rd Posted by: tmi3rd at November 28, 2008 03:07 PM (X9MTa) 6
Well, the glaciers never made it to Florida, so I'm all set. Cooler summers would be nice.
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I've been saying this for years...I have a brother that has been on the front lines of any new-age moonbat movement (unilateral disarmament in the 80's, trans-nationalism...he would have supported Esperanza if he was born earlier...)since the late 70's. I basically had it out with him a few years ago, and let him know that I had no interest in his religion. I remember he finally shut up when I told him that the Jehova's Witnesses thought that I hadn't read the right books either... They really hate being compaerd to Jay-Dub's. Posted by: Gromulin at November 28, 2008 03:21 PM (7Zrx4) 9
Of course the warmies have it covered. You guessed it, the ice age will be caused by “warming”. These people are no just making it a religion, they are certifiable insane.
But the One will still follow it. Posted by: Vic at November 28, 2008 03:24 PM (Qd7GC) 10
Anything that gets Moonbats this crazed is okay in my book.
Posted by: Kensington at November 28, 2008 03:35 PM (fhJCy) 11
Funny you should mention this, I posted on it today at my site. Click the link on my name. It's almost like we have ESPN or something...
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People really need to pull their heads out of their asses on this one. I am continually astonished it's gotten the kind of play it has. When they gave that cockholster Goracle the Nobel, my head almost exploded. This is the worst kind of bogus bullshit ever. It would take any idiot about 10 minutes on the internet to figure out this is just a normal cycle that the earth's climate goes through on a regular fucking basis for millions of years.
This is what we get for teaching shit like self-esteem and imaginary history instead of actual facts. (Yay, finally managed to work cockholster into a post! And, Gromulin, did you mean Esperanto or is there really some older gal called Esperanza that your brother might have supported? lol) Posted by: CB at November 28, 2008 03:42 PM (9Wv2j) 13
Then there's the recent survey by the usual greenie suspects about "climate change" that shows a drop in numbers of those concerned about Global Warmingtm and willing to spend money or changing lifestyles to deal with it. How do the BBC (and most other MSM) cultists frame the study? Exactly as the cultists who performed the survey: as a "global mandate" for support to combat global warming. Forty-seven percent said they were ready to change their lifestyle, compared to 58 percent in 2007. And only 20 percent said they were prepared to spend more for the environment, compared to 28 percent a year earlier. Funny though how they never link to the actual results or methodology- instead they just parrot the spin. Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 28, 2008 03:45 PM (plsiE) 14
The weather in California has been quite moderate this year. We may be experiencing a mini-drought but a few weeks of rain in the valleys and a decent snow pack in the mountains can quickly change reservoir levels in the spring.
The California Paradox: Wet winters lead to increased underbrush growth in the mountains and valleys which then become a wildfire risk in the autumn. Dry winters lead to an increase of dead underbrush in the mountains and valleys which then become a wildfire risk in the autumn. Meh. Posted by: 13times at November 28, 2008 03:49 PM (prK6+) 15
What is so ironic is that this is literally the story of Chicken Little.
Posted by: AmishDude at November 28, 2008 03:59 PM (GlrN/) Posted by: Gromulin at November 28, 2008 04:03 PM (7Zrx4) 17
I am still a little confused as to what the 'proper' global temperature should be. please, someone decide, set it and move on with life.
in the meantime, wake me before the next ice age Posted by: William at November 28, 2008 04:11 PM (9SBja) 18
I just love the neo-Malthusians and their pet theories about the world ending. It's always something with these wackos. However they never go back and admit they were wrong. It's a steady march to the next crisis that argues for increased governmental control of our lives.
Remember the hole in the ozone layer? Neither do today's environmentalists. Posted by: Nom de Blog at November 28, 2008 04:22 PM (nOQ1R) 19
Wait . Did I miss the memo? I thought the debate was over.
(claiming he behaves like a "rejected genius", and asserts there is "palpable fear" he will "embarrass" the EU.) Same old playbook. Don't debate the facts, smear the debater. Always the implication that the opposition is mentally flawed or just plain dumb. If a liberal says your smart get help immediately. I have never heard a liberal say W. Buckley was an above average intelligent man. Oh but the secular messiah and Bill Clinton are just brilliant. Posted by: locus ceruleus at November 28, 2008 04:25 PM (e2mBS) 20
What's that saying? People who don't believe in God will believe in anything?
Posted by: shibumi at November 28, 2008 04:26 PM (tZB/c) 21
Let's start that wall of separation between church and state right here. Posted by: Grognerd at November 28, 2008 04:28 PM (x67YZ) 22
shibumi
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Remember, I know where all of you live...after all, I did invent the Internet.
Posted by: The Goracle at November 28, 2008 05:04 PM (iWyUx) 24
I just did a little experiment using the weather history function of WeatherUnderground.com for our local airport here in North Central South Carolina. I compared the mean temperatures for the first 27 days of November 1998 and November 2008. For 1998 the average mean temperature was 52.8°F while for 2008 it was 49.7°F.
This is not “weather” as the warmies would argue since it looks at the entire month and averages the numbers. Thisis climate and it is getting colder.
It would be interesting if folks from other parts of the country did this and compared the numbers to see if it is a nationwide phenomena. Posted by: Vic at November 28, 2008 05:20 PM (Qd7GC) 25
Vic - your experiment made me curious, so I checked. The mean temp for the same period at SeaTac (Seattle) shows 52/48.
Posted by: Shannon at November 28, 2008 05:30 PM (q0Z3p) 26
Thanks, interesting that all the way across country the average mean dropped 3°F also.
Posted by: Vic at November 28, 2008 05:49 PM (Qd7GC) 27
$xcuse me and moron math 4°F.
Posted by: Vic at November 28, 2008 05:50 PM (Qd7GC) 28
5 degree drop in temp at PBI Nov 1998 to Nov 2008
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Remember your mother asking you... "If everybody else is jumping off a bridge, does that mean you should jump too?" Apparently a lot of peoples' moms never asked them that question. Or they did, but forgot to tell them what the right answer was. Posted by: sherlock at November 28, 2008 06:13 PM (8V5Ut) 30
I don't keep records but we're ice skating down here.
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I'm glad someone is finally making a public declaration that this is a religion and a silly one at that. lorien, you forgot their creation myth.
Bible: God formed mud into man. Evolution: Mud formed itself into man, for no particular reason. Posted by: Methos at November 28, 2008 06:33 PM (YgvQd) 33
Here's an approx. 600 word article with two simple charts that basically renders the rest of the AGW argument moot:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig9/hogan2.html If rising CO2 does not cause rising temperatures--and the data (as opposed to computer models) shows that it does not--the rest of the AGW claims are meaningless blathering. Posted by: Flubber at November 28, 2008 06:39 PM (UDqSH) 34
PBI = Palm Beach International? LOL, 5°F drop from 1998. We now have 3 widely separate sections of the country showing a significant drop in average mean temperature for the month of November.
If the same holds up for an average of the entire year that would mean that the 1°C increase for the ehntire century that the warmies have been screaming about is totally wiped out and we actually have a cooling trend.
Note that if you go to NASA and their charts after fixing there massively inaccurate fudge factor they show only a small change.
We don't have fudge factors here to "adjust". Posted by: Vic at November 28, 2008 06:54 PM (Qd7GC) 35
I have been comparing Gore style AGW to Creationism for quite some time now. But they are not quite analogous. Unlike AGW, Creationism does not call for sacrifice of the world economy and skyrocketing new taxes to prevent, say, another Noah Flood. Creationism, which you can believe or not, is relatively harmless by comparison.
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Seattle Stupid is really going to go apeshit over this.
Posted by: MrDIe at November 29, 2008 07:57 AM (MrDIe) 42
I love seeing you scientifically-challenged conservatives squirm. LOVE IT.
Posted by: D^2 at November 29, 2008 10:49 AM (GErar) Posted by: D^2 at November 29, 2008 10:54 AM (GErar) 44
D2, I was there and I know where the WMD's went. Fuck you.
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Global warming is the religion of the leftist moonbat one-world-government Commies. Saving plastic bags and driving a Prius is their ticket to a bullshit heaven.
Fuck them with my styrofoam cup. Posted by: AGR at November 29, 2008 12:24 PM (r8a5Z) 46
Some very nice charts at AJStrata's
<a href="http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/7264">World Cools On Man-Made Global Warming</a> - Posted by: Paul Gordon at November 29, 2008 01:01 PM (6qjCn) 47
Rats: Managed to mess up the link (Wish they had preview here).
Article is "World Cools On Man-Made Global Warming" at: http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/7264 - Posted by: Paul Gordon at November 29, 2008 01:04 PM (6qjCn) 48
D pointy-thing2, really, you guys just don't have that much effect on anything on Earth. None of us do.
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D^2 - Kinda like WMD's in Iraq in 2003, right? Oops. We're not supposed to talk about that. Why do you lefty fundies have your heads so far up your arse that you can't even question the narrative that has been shoved down your throats by your party apparachiks and their mainstream media ministry of truth?Posted by: Al E. Gorie at November 29, 2008 01:12 PM (Bokur) 50
Ugh. That D-squared fellow is still around after all these years of getting his ass handed to him by the likes of Megan McCardle? Dude, crawl back under your rock.
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For those of you who don't know, D-squared is one of the earliest trolls in the blogosphere. In fact, he was trolling before the term "blogosphere" existed. Your best bet is to scorn him once and then ignore him.
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The composition of air is: Nitrogen (N2) .78084 Oxygen (O2) .209476 Argon (Ar) .00934 Carbon Dioxide (CO2) .00314 The remainder is made up of Neon, Krypton, and other trace gasses. And yes that is how small a percentage the Devil CO2 actually is. Just a mere trace gas, less than Argon. Posted by: Mikey NTH at November 29, 2008 01:56 PM (TUWci) 53
"30 I don't keep records but we're ice skating down here. "
That's just because of the election. Of course global warming is a religion. It has demons and witch hunts. doesn't it? Of course, by that standard the Democratic Party is a religion now, too. Posted by: richard mcenroe at November 29, 2008 06:01 PM (n7hY1) 54
The best part is that those of us who know better sleep better. Global warming my ass.
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Back in the heat of August of 2008, when global warming hysteria was coincidently the highest, I wrote two posts on my blog that that are important- the first was called "Climate hysterics v heretics in an age of unreason", and is based on an article by Australian Arthur Herman of the same name. I think some of the Aussies recognize the nature of the beast that is confronting them. The second is called "Global Warming Melted My Ice Cream Cone," and is me mocking global warming believers based on recent scientific evidence (there is a hot spot of liquid hot magma under Greenland, which is a more likely cause of the ice sheet melting than my SUV)- both posts are pretty short and good. Posted by: A Conservative Teacher at November 30, 2008 09:58 AM (Cp7Wb) 56
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