Breaking: Major Terror Attacks In India UPDATE: Death Toll Increased And Fighting Continues REPORT: Americans Held Hostage

55 Back to 80 dead and 200 wounded seem to be the most common figures at the moment (3:10 eastern) but it seems likely both will go up.

Top anti-terrorist cops have been wounded or killed. The army and navy have been put on alert to help the overwhelmed local cops and national anti-terrorist troops are moving in.

Heartbreaking...Indian news is showing the city's top anti-terror squad cop gearing up to go in. Minutes later he was dead. All too reminiscent of the photos of NYC cops and firefighters going to their duty and save others only to be killed by sub-human terrorists.

Awful, just awful.

Indian Network News Stream (thanks to Benson)

The reporter at the IBL stream (India TV network) just said that gunmen at one of the hotels attacked specifically demanded room numbers of Americans and that Americans are being held hostage.

It's 1:30 in the morning there and this has been going on for hours. It's obviously a chaotic situation and lots of information may not pan out but that's what they are reporting now.

Westerners definitely are targets.

Two terrorists carrying guns tonight took 15 people, half of them foreigners, hostage on the roof of the luxury Taj Hotel, one of the
hostages who managed to escape said.
...Replying to a question, Patel said the terrorists wanted to know if any one of the hostages was carrying American and British passports.
They clearly wanted foreigners, he added.

The hostage situation at one or more of the hotels is on going.

Original post:
There's been a series of terrorist attacks in the Indian city of Mumbai.

Terror struck the country's financial capital late on Wednesday night as coordinate serial explosions and indiscriminate firing rocked
eight areas across Mumbai including the crowded CST railway station, two five star hotels--Oberoi and Taj-- leaving 16 persons dead and 50 injured. ( Watch )
Armed with AK-47 rifles and grenades, a couple of terrorists entered the passenger hall of CST and opened fire and threw grenades, Mumbai General Railway Police Commissioner A K Sharma said.
The terror strike which began at 10:33 PM at Chhatrapathi Shivaji Terminus(CST), formerly known as the Victoria Terminus(VT), claimed 10 lives in the premises of the station alone, police said.
Three persons were killed in a bomb explosion in a taxi on Mazegaon dockyard road and an equal number were gunned down at Taj Hotel. The victims in the hotel were its employees.
The lobby of the Oberoi hotel was on fire and the hotel evacuated, eyewitnesses said.
Maharashtra DGP A N Roy said tonight's attack in "at least seven places" is a "terror strike."

Obviously this is a breaking story and first reports are often wrong but FNC just said they are being told officials don't think this is a purely domestic attack but rather one that may be aimed in part at least at westerns. They are saying that gunmen went through a hotel demanding to know where the 'British and Americans' were.

Thanks to minnie in the comments for the heads up.

UPDATE: FNC has a reporter on from India who says the reports are up to 80 people have been killed (though most reports are saying 25 dead so far) and fighting is ongoing.

More here including an eyewitness account from a UK member of the European Parliament who was in one of the hotels when the terrorists attacked.

Wow, CNN International says the attacks have been going on for several hours and there are continuing firefights around the city (20 million people, formally known as Bombay) and new attacks are still being reported. They are also reporting that there have been follow on attacks at least one hospital where victims were taken.

Posted by: DrewM. at 01:54 PM

Comments

Look, this election is about change. Not worrying about hyped up nonsense like jihadist terrorism. BushMcCain are going to try to scare up some votes. Dont buy it.

Posted by: Barry the O at November 26, 2008 01:59 PM (waaUg)

2 How do I gird my loins? Should I use ACE bandages or will the gentle strokes of Soros and Rezko suffice?

Posted by: The Office of the President Elect at November 26, 2008 02:05 PM (oCCjE)

3 Obviously all terrorist attacks, here and abroad, are payback for the HLF verdicts in Texas. Because W is from Texas, and...

Apparently, Mumbai = New Dehli....

Posted by: FloofyParisParamus at November 26, 2008 02:06 PM (rbLHc)

4 They want to kill americans and British but they don't have a problem taking out the people of India in the process. No, they aren't just looking at those people to point the finger at the target they want nad let them go on their merry way when they do locate the true target. Everyone is despensible in the process.

Posted by: Mike at November 26, 2008 02:09 PM (B/Y39)

5 For a while only CNBC was covering this which was odd as generally they don't break in for news. I wonder if they covered it becasue they thought it was important for the markets?

Posted by: minnie at November 26, 2008 02:10 PM (zplc6)

6 I wonder how many terrorists were "arrested."

Posted by: Jean at November 26, 2008 02:10 PM (HVRSA)

7 CNBC has live video and is saying up to 25 fatalities.

Posted by: minnie at November 26, 2008 02:14 PM (zplc6)

8 This may be the wrong place and time for this, but does it infuriate anyone else that, while this is going on in India, the "Breaking News" headline on the Fox site is about someone getting arrested in the Reno kidnapping case and that the mom in the cyber-bullying case was convicted?

Really? Is that what Fox has come down to? A fucking terror attack is going on in India, one of our best allies in the war on terror and the fucking breaking news is about that stupid, Enquirer-type shit?

This is why I stopped watching Fox.

Posted by: wiserbud at November 26, 2008 02:15 PM (wWwJR)

9 Why arrest them? Why not a more permanent solution to the problem?

Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 26, 2008 02:15 PM (/6V78)

10 Police chief in Mumbai confirms that the gunmen are still in the hotel and fighting.

Posted by: Benson at November 26, 2008 02:16 PM (qzcNU)

Posted by: wiserbud at November 26, 2008 02:15 PM (wWwJR)

The problem is they are the only ones talking about it, which is even more amazing.

Actually CNN International is on it but I always forget I have them in my cable package.

Posted by: DrewM. at November 26, 2008 02:17 PM (hlYel)

Heads up,

Mumbai dies NOT = New Delhi, it ='s Bombay

Posted by: sirlurksalot at November 26, 2008 02:20 PM (W3XUk)

13 CNBC must have had a team there just per-chance.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 26, 2008 02:20 PM (/6V78)

14 Drew I watch CNBC a lot, rarely do they cover live breaking news. I guess I should have been more specific. What I am actually trying to say is that the traders are all watching CNBC and seeing this so we will see the impact, if any, on the market. Sorry for not being clear enough. You are doing a great job of distilling the information as everyone seems to be saying something different.

Posted by: minnie at November 26, 2008 02:21 PM (zplc6)

15 so mumbai is bombay? what was wrong with the old name? if the Indians have a navy, then why can't they go in there & kill those terrorists? is this naive of me?

Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 26, 2008 02:22 PM (/6V78)

16 Mumbai police believe the terrorists are holding hostages.

Posted by: Benson at November 26, 2008 02:23 PM (qzcNU)

17 They're in a shoot-out with police as they're trying to get into the hospital (the terrorists, not the police).

Posted by: Benson at November 26, 2008 02:23 PM (qzcNU)

18 Now FNC saying there are "terrorists in the hotel and they believe there are hostages in the hotel."

Posted by: minnie at November 26, 2008 02:23 PM (zplc6)

19 Police chief in Mumbai confirms that the gunmen are still in the hotel and fighting.

Kill 'em all. Let Allah sort 'em out.

Posted by: wiserbud at November 26, 2008 02:28 PM (wWwJR)

20 Test run?

Posted by: TMF at November 26, 2008 02:31 PM (waaUg)

21 Skull, you magnificent bastard!

Posted by: Fish at November 26, 2008 02:31 PM (6Rihj)

22 "A fucking terror attack is going on in India, one of our best allies in the war on terror and the fucking breaking news is about that stupid, Enquirer-type shit?" -- 2:15 PM

Fox News STILL has the jury verdict from that cyberstalking case front and centre (17 minutes after you posted your comment) as its "Breaking News".

I'd be embarrassed if I worked there.

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 02:32 PM (hawOV)

The Religion of Peace?

Posted by: TomK at November 26, 2008 02:32 PM (hcSw8)

24
This is tourist season there, those hotels are expensive places (I've been to both just to gawk) where tourists or businessmen would stay, the train station is a postcardey type tourist place.

Can't Obama stop this?

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at November 26, 2008 02:33 PM (lhxhu)

25 This is a fucking huge attack. I don't want to speculate too much on the front page post but it's not like this kind of shit hasn't been linked to the ISI before.

Wars have been started over less. Just saying.

Posted by: DrewM. at November 26, 2008 02:33 PM (hlYel)

Sadly, the average American TV viewer will be far, far more interested in the cyber mom conviction than this stuff.

The election should have been a good sign of what interests the volk at this point in history.

Terrorism, the War in Iraq, - all went the way of the Rubiks Cube this cycle.

Posted by: TMF at November 26, 2008 02:35 PM (waaUg)

27 I wonder if the terrorists are the so-called "freedom fighters" from Pakistan. These 2 countries do not have a great relationship but they both have nuclear weapons so things could get real nasty very quickly.

Posted by: IC at November 26, 2008 02:36 PM (jZNCU)

28 Fox News: Reports of shooting at the Mariot Hotel in mumbai.

Posted by: Benson at November 26, 2008 02:36 PM (qzcNU)

29
Nariman point, Gateway of India..more tourist spots. They're hitting them all.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at November 26, 2008 02:36 PM (lhxhu)

30 i know drew, was just about to write that. Generally there aren't any people with guns running around.

Posted by: minnie at November 26, 2008 02:37 PM (zplc6)

31 IreneFingIrene,

Can you recommend any good blogs or sources from India?

The only one I could think of off the top of my head was the India Times but they aren't updating much.

Posted by: DrewM. at November 26, 2008 02:38 PM (hlYel)

32 CNBC was probably covering the event because Mumbai is where the major financial centers are for India (sort of like Wall Street for NYC).

Most Americans (not visiting relatives or friends) in India would be staying at the higher end hotels because of the amenities. These hotels are almost all filled with Western-based foreigners and are clearly targets because they stand out from the rest of the infrastructure. If the attacks were aimed at these places, Americans and Westerners were almost definitively the targets.

Posted by: deputac at November 26, 2008 02:39 PM (azako)

33 Can't Obama stop this?

President-Elect Obama (PBUH) would be happy to step in and resolve this crisis, but only if the current administration admits it's many, many crimes against humanity and immediately steps aside and allows the magical and wondrous President-Elect (PBUH) to assume the office of President immediately.

Until such time, unfortunately, there is nothing that the President-Elect (PBUH) can do, and any and all blame for this crisis must fall at the feet of teh current administration.

There will be no more questions at this time. Thank you very much.

Posted by: Office of the President-Elect at November 26, 2008 02:41 PM (IHbof)

34 rediff.com is a great site for India news and entertainment, they have some basic info on the situation...

Posted by: deputac at November 26, 2008 02:41 PM (azako)

35 CNN.com has excellent live streaming video, FWIW.

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 02:41 PM (hawOV)

36 Here's one blog. Not many details but something:

Just got alerted by Mehernaaz about terror attacks in south Bombay. Firings outside Leopold, and blasts/firings around the Taj and Oberoi Hotels and VT station have taken place. Only CNN-IBN has news reports as of this moment.

Posted by: Benson at November 26, 2008 02:42 PM (qzcNU)

37 FoxNews.com has nothing on this... I actually think it's more a function of their website being very slow to update (I've noticed this in the past over and over again) rather than a conscious editorial decision, but it's still pathetic.

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 02:43 PM (hawOV)

38 Live streaming video from India in English.

Posted by: Benson at November 26, 2008 02:44 PM (qzcNU)

39 OT but it is troubling... every time I come here today I get a security warning that "cnn.com" is trying to open some page. WTF?

Posted by: sherlock at November 26, 2008 02:45 PM (8V5Ut)

Bonus question: how much sympathy will we owe New Yorkers, or other urban Blue State voters, when (not if) the bombs go off in one of those cities? This isn't 2001, when Al Gore (who voted for the first Iraq War) was the choice of Team Blue. Since then they've paraded their hatred of "redneck" America in their streets, and flocked to Fahrenheit 9/11. Since then they've voted for John Kerry. Since then, in primary time, they voted for Barack Obama. And then they voted for him again in the general election. They have, since 2004, consistently voted for giving Islamists what they want ("Stop War & End Racism", with the Left's definitions of "war" and "racism").

Posted by: David Ross at November 26, 2008 02:45 PM (GwV+j)

41 Posted by: Benson at November 26, 2008 02:44 PM (qzcNU)

Cool, thanks.

Posted by: DrewM. at November 26, 2008 02:46 PM (hlYel)

42 This one Indian blogger is hearing 60 dead. Fox News is now reporting at least 40 dead.

Posted by: Benson at November 26, 2008 02:48 PM (qzcNU)

43 "Bonus question: how much sympathy will we owe New Yorkers, or other urban Blue State voters, when (not if) the bombs go off in one of those cities?"

Ask me that question again when there's video of bleeding children and audio of screaming dying civilians.

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 02:49 PM (hawOV)

44 <i>FoxNews.com has nothing on this.</i>

Nah, it's there, Christoph. But it is not as prominent as the other, more "important" stories. You'd almost think Nancy Grace was making their editorial decisions for them. Oh, wait, they have Greta.

Same difference.

Posted by: Office of the President-Elect at November 26, 2008 02:49 PM (IHbof)

45 This is clearly a response to Sarah Palins turkey murdering episode

Posted by: TMF at November 26, 2008 02:50 PM (waaUg)

46 the link deputac (rediff.com) and Benson (ibn) provided seem to be good..

here's another local news link NDTV streaming video

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at November 26, 2008 02:51 PM (lhxhu)

47 Ask me that question again when there's video of bleeding children and audio of screaming dying civilians.

Just can't help yourself, can you Christoph?

Posted by: wiserbud at November 26, 2008 02:52 PM (IHbof)

With this and the threat to NYC transit, the real world is ready to slap obama in the face

hope its not as bad as it sounds

Posted by: that guy at November 26, 2008 02:52 PM (zl17B)

49 OotP-E, what really pisses me off at FoxNews is now that they've taken it off of breaking news, they have the word "URGENT" in red leading the Lori Drew headline.

Really? "URGENT"? WTF do you expect me or any reader to do about it?

If anything is urgent, it's an in progress terrorist attack, particularly against Western Civilians who may be Americans.

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 02:52 PM (hawOV)

50 IBN reports over 200 injured in addition to at least 50 dead. IBN said attacks were done on 3 posh hotels with Western tourists. In at least one, the tourists have been forced onto one floor under control of the terrorists in a hostage situation.

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 02:55 PM (hawOV)

51 Okay, I can't find independent confirmation, but one Indian blogger says:

Hundreds of American, British citizens are being held hostage on a single floor at each of the Oberoi and the Taj.

IBN is reporting western hostages, too.

Posted by: Benson at November 26, 2008 02:55 PM (qzcNU)

43 Christoph, thanks for putting that into perspective. I hadn't seen the pictures, and it's all theoretical right now.

And I do NOT want to see pictures like that. But we have to start thinking of how to react, morally, when we are supporting efforts to secure people who have insulted us so deeply.

Posted by: David Ross at November 26, 2008 02:56 PM (GwV+j)

53 Here's my concern:

Iraq sucked up a lot of the money and talent in the terrorist world. You know, the flypaper strategy. It was a battleground that gave the terrorists disadvantages (And I think this is part of the reason the surge wasn't implemented ASAP... to continue having an Iraq war is to continue having a safer America). Now that Iraq is cooling off, Afghanistan is much less favorable for us, and there's a real chance it won't suck up anywhere near as many terrorists or funds from bad guys.

So this means that a lot of the terror attacks around the world are going to get back to frequent levels we saw when Clinton basically ignored the problem. A clever president would be able to keep fighting Islamofascism as well as Bush has. Instead, we've got Obama who could be awesome or a dud but is mainly a blank slate. I hope Obama's got a plan for this.

Posted by: Shill at November 26, 2008 02:56 PM (8jYMc)

wiserbud, chill; I was the one being a banworthy douche this time, not him.

This attack is fucking awful. And it's the first of many. They smell our weakness.

Posted by: David Ross at November 26, 2008 02:57 PM (GwV+j)

55
MSNBC is saying a police station in South Mumbai was attacked, too.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at November 26, 2008 02:58 PM (lhxhu)

56 Posted by: David Ross at November 26, 2008 02:56 PM (GwV+j)

I'm sorry to be harsh but don't be an ass.

Let the left care only about Americans they agree with politically. If there's an attack in America (God forbid), then we will respond as Americans. That's the bottom line. If we don't do that, then the left will have won.

Posted by: DrewM. at November 26, 2008 02:58 PM (hlYel)

57 My husband has stayed at these hotels dozens of times, and we have friends that stay there often.
Wow, this is frightening.

Posted by: MayBee at November 26, 2008 03:01 PM (dwBUY)

33 Can't Obama stop this?

---------------

He can't. Unicorns and rainbows are only for Americans.

Posted by: Niteowl at November 26, 2008 03:02 PM (B/Y39)

59 "And I do NOT want to see pictures like that. But we have to start thinking of how to react, morally, when we are supporting efforts to secure people who have insulted us so deeply."

I get your point, David Ross, however 3 counterpoints:

1. Limiting your sympathy only citizens of states who voted wisely (in your opinion) doesn't sound like a recipe for a well-functioning country.
2. 37% of New Yorkers voted for McCain-Palin, so I suppose we could spare some sympathy for those.
3. If there was a terrorist attack in Texas, only GOP voters deserve sympathy?

The whole idea is rhetorical, I understand, but it fails several tests.

Finally:

"... we are supporting efforts to secure people who have insulted us so deeply..."

That's going to be Barack Obama's primary responsibility soon. Do you suggest he has an extra duty to secure New York, but not South Carolina?

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 03:03 PM (hawOV)

It is noteworthy that they were targeting Americans and Brits- allegedly.

Most attacks in Mumbai and India in general are usually aimed at Indians- payback for Kashmir.

This smacks more of Al Qaeda proper- probably a test run for a similar grand scale attack in multiple locations/cities in teh US

Posted by: TMF at November 26, 2008 03:03 PM (waaUg)

61 The FNC reporter is now saying her contacts are telling her that they are "searching out americans" and they are also commenting on the sheer number of attacks occuring concurrently. Katerine Herridge is saying that what has her attention is the "layers of attack" similar to the last attack this year on our embasy in Yemen."

Posted by: minnie at November 26, 2008 03:04 PM (zplc6)

62 I hope Obama's got a plan for this.

He does, when they are done he will arrest them and give them a Gameboy.

Posted by: Rocks at November 26, 2008 03:04 PM (Q1lie)

David Ross:

I live in NYC. I didn't vote for Obama or Kerry, I never hated "rednecks," didn't see <i>Fahrenheit 9/11</i> or commit any of the other egregious offenses you would like to lay on all New Yorkers. Glad to know a fellow American like you is OK with seeing another as collateral damage just because of where I live.

Posted by: benavente at November 26, 2008 03:05 PM (tifVf)

64 There was also an delegation of EU politicians in one of the hotels which were attacked.

Posted by: Rocks at November 26, 2008 03:05 PM (Q1lie)

65 It's interesting that MSBNC is the only one calling them "Terrorists", everyone else is using "Gunmen".

Posted by: Rocks at November 26, 2008 03:08 PM (Q1lie)

66 >>24

Can't Obama stop this?

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at November 26, 2008 02:33 PM (lhxhu)

Our Most High, Exulted, and Merciful Lord and Savior Barack Cockholster Obamessiah Almighty (PBUH) will raise his dainty, effeminate hand and pronounce an end to the bloodshed, and it shall be so.

Posted by: ol-dirty-/b/tard at November 26, 2008 03:08 PM (IoUF1)

67 When you register at a hotel in India, you have to register your passport. Depending on how co-ordinated this is, and what information they have access to, it would be easy for gunmen to go right to the rooms with British and American passport holders.

Posted by: MayBee at November 26, 2008 03:08 PM (dwBUY)

#38

Good job, Benson on the link.

Posted by: Paulie in AZ at November 26, 2008 03:10 PM (8sSFK)

69 Dictator elect will sieze on this opportunity to raise a Domestic Military Force...to protect American citizens from a similar attack on our soil. And that is how he gets his Gestapo thugs instilled in this country to repress the peasants.

Posted by: Scary times at November 26, 2008 03:10 PM (B/Y39)

70 Interesting point Maybee. And, I'm sure you know just how easy it is to pay for (i.e., bribe) people in India. This information would be easily obtainable by a terrorist group.

Posted by: deputac at November 26, 2008 03:10 PM (azako)

71 A boat full of explosives reportedly found near the Gateway to India. Here's a picture of that location.

The anti-terror squad chief has been shot dead.

Posted by: Benson at November 26, 2008 03:11 PM (qzcNU)

72
Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) chief Hemant Karkare killed.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at November 26, 2008 03:12 PM (lhxhu)

benavente: I'm now officially ashamed of my question. I apologise profusely. If this happens in your town (again), I will support whatever means necessary to prevent it from occurring (again). Whatever the polls say.

Posted by: David Ross at November 26, 2008 03:12 PM (GwV+j)

74 "This smacks more of Al Qaeda proper- probably a test run for a similar grand scale attack in multiple locations/cities in teh US"

If they have the capability for such attacks. They may not so launched in India instead.

That said, I'm sure they'd like to launch such attacks in all Western countries, at least those engaged in hostilities against them. Therefore, we should root them out destroy them.

Breaking:

Mumbai's anti-terrorist police leader was shot dead. Damn. He died doing his duty, and it's still sad.

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 03:12 PM (hawOV)

75 Man look at that pick of the Train Station they have up at MSNBC, it must have been jammed. Cocksuckers opened fire in there. Bastards.

Posted by: Rocks at November 26, 2008 03:14 PM (Q1lie)

76 No American deaths so far, the U.S. Embassy is reporting.

Posted by: Benson at November 26, 2008 03:16 PM (qzcNU)

77 I hope everyone understands Al-Queda likes to carry out coordinated attacks against separate target locations to demonstrate the "scope" of their organization.
I hope all the sheepdogs around the world are up and alert.

or it's the ISI demonstrating that the elections in Pakistan didn't change anything.

Posted by: Jean at November 26, 2008 03:16 PM (HVRSA)

78 "The anti-terror squad (ATS) chief (from Mumbai) has been shot dead."

"Hemant Karkare" is his name, according to Irene. Probably right! I couldn't spell it.

Two other senior officers, Vijay Saluskar, an "encounter specialist" (I believe also anti-terrorism related) was also with Karkare and was killed. Another top officer whose name I missed was killed at the same time. Apparently, they were talking to News Crews when a Honda Civic drove up, and passengers shot them.

IBN has video of ATS chief Karkare and colleagues putting on bullet proof jackets and helmuts and they were killed shortly afterwards.

IBN says 4 policemen were killed so far that they know of.

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 03:18 PM (hawOV)

David Ross:

I just don't think it's right for Americans to wish ill on other Americans to prove a point. That's a tactic the left uses all the time, and it's wrong.

Posted by: benavente at November 26, 2008 03:18 PM (tifVf)

80 This makes me so sad. India is an amazing place. My heart goes out to all of the people of Mumbai.

Posted by: MayBee at November 26, 2008 03:19 PM (dwBUY)

81 I watched a few minutes of this -- apparently just now they are starting to realize that their military may need to get involved.

I imagine Al Gore/J Kerry/Obama are appalled at the escalation. /snark

This looks really bad, with every indication that the death toll is going to skyrocket.

Posted by: krakatoa at November 26, 2008 03:20 PM (YM1XM)

This is a wake up call to the world. It's not just US or Britian they want to harm, its everyone that is in their way, regardless of the original target

Posted by: Scary times at November 26, 2008 03:20 PM (B/Y39)

83 "I just don't think it's right for Americans to wish ill on other Americans to prove a point."

I don't think David Ross wished ill on anyone. I think he finds it frustrating that people vote stupidly for a man who wants to withdraw from our enemies when the strategy of engaging them "over there" has been phenomenally successful at protecting the American homeland. It doesn't help that this same man has no understanding nor respect for (Landstuhl when he didn't visited the wounded soldiers) the military and wants to dramatically cut their budget.

I understand his frustration.

However, most Britains supported Chamberlain (who was a good, decent, and utterly weak man) before they supported Churchill out of desperation and dawning realization.

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 03:23 PM (hawOV)

84 It's not just US or Britian they want to harm, its everyone that is in their way, regardless of the original target

India has been dealing seriously with terrorism for a long time.

Posted by: MayBee at November 26, 2008 03:23 PM (dwBUY)

85
Vijay Saluskar has 40 kills (as of 2004). Encounter = extrajudicial killing.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at November 26, 2008 03:24 PM (lhxhu)

86 AP: 78 people now killed, a top Indian official says.

Posted by: Benson at November 26, 2008 03:24 PM (qzcNU)

87 well, after the post election self congratulatory back patting about how great we are to elect a black man, we have another reminder/wake up call about how the world really isn't that concerned with our racial hangups and how little the bad guys care.

Posted by: ed at November 26, 2008 03:24 PM (Urhve)

88 WTF? Fox had 15 hostages, now up to 40.
I'm glad the people haven't been killed yet but there is no way to negotiate after so much killing.

Posted by: Rocks at November 26, 2008 03:25 PM (Q1lie)

89 "I hope everyone understands Al-Queda likes to carry out coordinated attacks against separate target locations to demonstrate the "scope" of their organization."

Indeed. Although so far they've only done that within a given country... probably to do with how Al-Quaeda is organized internally for their own operational security.

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 03:25 PM (hawOV)

90 #12, and all, sorry for that. In all seriously, I feel like a dope...I knew that; I was trying to point out the oddness of one of those Istanbul now Constantinople switcheroo things....

Posted by: FloofyParisParamus at November 26, 2008 03:26 PM (/0aSJ)

91 "Vijay Saluskar has 40 kills (as of 2004). Encounter = extrajudicial killing."

Like SWAT? Or what does that mean?

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 03:26 PM (hawOV)

92 Where's Tushar?

Let us know you're all right when you get a chance my brown friend

Posted by: moronizer at November 26, 2008 03:29 PM (p1s9n)

93 My God, the poor indian reporter on FNC is talking so fast, she must be so upset, the look in her eyes says it all.

Posted by: minnie at November 26, 2008 03:29 PM (zplc6)

94 #91 Encounter -- throw down piece, shot while fleeing, etc. Old school police tactics. Think pulling a knife on the NYPD in 1920's

Posted by: Jean at November 26, 2008 03:30 PM (HVRSA)

95 VJ is the MAN in Hindustan!

With Tuesday�s encounter, the number of criminals shot dead by inspector Vijay Salaskar touched 78. Salaskar, who was reportedly sidelined for the last two years for unearthing the gutka-underworld nexus, was recently attached to the crime branch, where he currently heads the anti-extortion cell. An officer of the 1983 batch, Salaskar in his 24 years of service has eliminated many criminals. Amar Naik, Jaggu Shetty, Sadhu Shetty, Kundan Singh Rawat, Zahoor Makhanda are some of the gangsters who have fallen to Salaskar�s bullets. According to sources, the police officer had once even gone hunting for former don Arun Gawli. �But Gawli fled from the scene, forcing Salaskar to return empty-handed. However, Salaskar got even by killing his two trusted men, Sada Pawle and Vijay Tandel, in 1997, triggering allegations that the encounters were fake. After this, Gawli was so scared that during the 2005 elections, he complained to the government that Salaskar was trying to kill him and requested that he be transferred,�� sources said.

http://onlybombay.blogspot.com

Posted by: moronizer at November 26, 2008 03:31 PM (p1s9n)

96
Low-tech SWAT going in with intent to kill, not arrest.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at November 26, 2008 03:31 PM (lhxhu)

97 "My God, the poor indian reporter on FNC is talking so fast, she must be so upset, the look in her eyes says it all."

A dozen or so attacks across her city, worry for her loved ones and herself, and the knowledge powerful top police officers who she's reported on in the past were just shot dead -- while talking to reporters. I can understand her feeling upset.

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 03:31 PM (hawOV)

Obama expected to call on India to "end the cycle of violence."

Posted by: arminius at November 26, 2008 03:32 PM (sBm2i)

99 "Low-tech SWAT going in with intent to kill, not arrest."

Muskets?

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 03:32 PM (hawOV)

100 "Think pulling a knife on the NYPD in 1920's."

Probably not wise?

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 03:33 PM (hawOV)

101 Ace, my friend, and co-bloggers of ace.mu.nu...please let's keep this story bumped at the top as developments unfold are are confirmed.

Posted by: geewhiz at November 26, 2008 03:36 PM (mCySu)

102 it's a matter of priorities-now, in case we didn't know, there are still bad guys out there. they want to kill people. americans are fine but it's not limited to us. is closing Gitmo still going to be the A Number One priority for the new admin? to gain goodwill?

Posted by: ed at November 26, 2008 03:36 PM (Urhve)

103 The army is at the Trident Hotel (if it hasn't been noted already).

Posted by: Shannon at November 26, 2008 03:38 PM (q0Z3p)

104 probably not, ed. btw i just saw the latest update in the post...how did that hostage 'escape?'

Posted by: geewhiz at November 26, 2008 03:38 PM (mCySu)

105

Pic of one of the attackers

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at November 26, 2008 03:39 PM (lhxhu)

106 God damn, I hate the Fox News website:

URGENT: Terrorists reportedly holding at least 14 Westerners after launching seven attacks in India's financial capital

On the same page:

URGENT: Missouri mom at center of fatal cyber-bullying case convicted of lesser misdemeanor charges

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 03:39 PM (hawOV)

107 #100 A self correcting error, never made twice. Trying to explain the Indian term "Police Encounter" - it's not an Bobby blowing a whistle.

Posted by: Jean at November 26, 2008 03:39 PM (HVRSA)

108 Borack Obama: Both sides must practice restraint.

Posted by: robtr at November 26, 2008 03:39 PM (uJzOr)

109

Where's Tushar?

Let us know you're all right when you get a chance my brown friend

FUCK!

The terrorists attacked New Jersey?

Who'd notice?

Posted by: Entropy at November 26, 2008 03:42 PM (m6c4H)

110 People, people, please. How does this help Michelle's children?

Posted by: RedRiverTed at November 26, 2008 03:42 PM (Z7fcC)

111 Army Commandos are in the Mumbai Oberoi hotel where there are apparently up to 15 armed terrorists (according to IBN). There was some firing and smoke deployed. At that time, a westerner escaped. He says the terrorists were armed with AK-47s and other "sophisticated rifles" as well as lots of explosives and detonators.

Prior to this, the terrorists asked for Americans and British subjects, checking their passports.

A terrible situation.

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 03:47 PM (hawOV)

112 Looking at the Indian TV - people are stupid the world over.

You have gangs of terrorists roaming the city attacking heavily armed police, close to 100 dead already, and the streets are crowded with rubberneckers. WTF

Posted by: Jean at November 26, 2008 03:47 PM (HVRSA)

113 IBN repeated the number of "15 terrorists" in the Oberoi. That seems like a lot to me, but that's what they said.

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 03:50 PM (hawOV)

114

Christoph:

But implying no sympathy should be due to New Yorkers in the event of a terror attack is not the most pleasant of regards. My point is -- I didn't vote for the Obama. Don't lump me in with the others. His/your frustration? What do you think it's like for me -- I have to live around a lot of these spoiled cowardly people. But I don't wish them ill will or cease regarding them as Americans deserving of consideration just because of their politics. Save that for the Kos "Screw Them" crowd.

Posted by: benavente at November 26, 2008 03:50 PM (x06XD)

115 So can we start a new thread on the India situation? This one seems to have been killed.

Posted by: Eleven at November 26, 2008 03:53 PM (7DB+a)

116

"A local journalist told CNN he had seen evidence of an attack at the city's domestic airport, which is on the outskirts of the Mumbai.

IBN reported explosions at a gas station and inside a taxi on a dockside road.

Attacks were reported at the Taj and Oberoi hotels, the popular Caf� Leopold, and Cama Hospital, and the Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus railway station." CNN is all over it. Fox is draggin' ass.

Posted by: icemike at November 26, 2008 03:54 PM (a7kOz)

117 I hope The Office Of The President-Elect authorizes Bush to help the Indians out (when he gets back from the gym). We've got a few specialists available.

Posted by: seyont at November 26, 2008 03:55 PM (FcR7P)

118 I put up a new thread because it was getting to be impracticable to update this one.

Posted by: DrewM. at November 26, 2008 03:57 PM (hlYel)

119 This ain't the US. There is going to be a lot of bloodshed in India when they confirm these are Jihadis.

Posted by: Rocks at November 26, 2008 03:58 PM (Q1lie)

120 The AP has finally noticed.

This is interesting:
"I was in the main lobby and there was all of a sudden a lot of firing outside," said Sajjad Karim, part of a delegation of European lawmakers visiting Mumbai ahead of a forthcoming EU-India summit.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 26, 2008 03:59 PM (yG+tb)

121 "But implying no sympathy should be due to New Yorkers in the event of a terror attack is not the most pleasant of regards."

No it wasn't and he's emphatically apologized for it.

"My point is -- I didn't vote for the Obama. Don't lump me in with the others."

This has been addressed. See comment #37.

"His/your frustration?"

With stupid Obama supporters / Neville Chamberlain supporters / my own dad / on and on throughout history being naive motherfuckers who in some cases "know" history, but never learn the lessons contained within.

Posted by: Christoph at November 26, 2008 04:00 PM (hawOV)

122

Just saw where the terrorists hijacked police vehicles & are doing drive-bys. Just happened at a movie theater - the have it on film.

This is too much forward thinking for amateurs. Smells like AQ

Posted by: Paulie in AZ at November 26, 2008 04:03 PM (8sSFK)

123 This makes me so sad. India is an amazing place. My heart goes out to all of the people of Mumbai.

My son in law is from Delhi; when we went there I was treated like a king. An attack by those cocksucking rock-worshipers on India is an attack on me. Fuck the ROPMA.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 26, 2008 04:23 PM (m2sQh)

124 Let me guess - Terrorists were Stupid Fat White Protestants...?

Posted by: whatthecrap? at November 26, 2008 05:36 PM (OW1jF)

125

Christoph:

With stupid Obama supporters / Neville Chamberlain supporters / my own dad / on and on throughout history being naive motherfuckers who in some cases "know" history, but never learn the lessons contained within.

I agree with you. Everything is a movie to these clowns.

Posted by: benavente at November 26, 2008 05:55 PM (tifVf)

126 Fox News just read a statement from an O'bambi spokesbitch instead of any statement from the adminstration in power. What the fuck?

Posted by: Fish at November 26, 2008 06:06 PM (6Rihj)

127

listen to you hand wringers tripping all over each other apologising for this and that, what a bunch of sheeple.....I am sick of making heros out of victims....its time to bring the hurt to those that do this and those that enable them in our own ranks. The MSM is working to hurt us all and kowtow to the enemy and that is treason....willfull treason which is worse then an enemy combatant.

and dear lord what will it take for the threadjacking, handwringing christoph to be out of this Blog, and take Gaylor with you.

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