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| Europeans offer Obama political cover for Hillary as SecState...European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana gave his backing to Clinton at the State Department, telling reporters in Washington she would be well received in Europe. "I think it would be very well taken if that is the case," Solana said when asked how he thought European diplomats would react if Obama chose the former first lady...Seriously, why pick another Clinton retread, when you can have a real Clinton? I'll take real Naugahide rather than that fake Naugahide any day. Comments1
Well THANK GOD the Europeans like our new Secretary of State! Now I can sleep easy tonight!
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Madeline Notsobright, Warren Christopher, Ward Churchill, Bill Ayers, etc. Lets face it. For us, Hillary is about as close to a dream choice as we're going to get out of Obama. Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 21, 2008 10:20 PM (OqXyp) Posted by: Dead Career Sketch at November 21, 2008 10:23 PM (JTN0y) 5
When I think of Hillary as Secretary of State, I'm reminded of something Krauthammer wrote about her as a prospective president: "I could be comfortable with her, because she is so utterly devoid of any attachment to principle that, as far as national security goes, I'm sure she'd do the right thing."
I'm just waiting to see how much time passes before Bill causes his first problem. Posted by: Phineas at November 21, 2008 10:32 PM (v78o2) 6
They like us! They like us! They finally like us! (Throws self on the floor in ecstacy of moonbatty fandom. Or not.)
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Anyone else notice that the KosKoolaidKultKiddies are having a friggin' meltdown over Obama's choices?
I really need to order a couple of cases of popcorn to get through the next four years. Posted by: Dead Career Sketch at November 21, 2008 10:37 PM (JTN0y) 8
How will she handle the pirates seeking <seething> to destroy our economy?
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She'll enjoy accepting Obama's letter of resignation.
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How will she handle the pirates seeking <seething> to destroy our economy?
Well...Bill sent Tomahawks into an aspirin factory. If I were the pirates, I'd actually be pretty scared right now because Hillary would be looking chalk up some quick publicly supportable foreign wins, and the only ones sympathetic to the pirates these days are their own support infrastructure, and of course the Associated Press. Kicking pirate ass is about as internationally risk free as it gets. Naturally, human rights groups and such will whine, but foreign governments, business around the world, and the American public would love it. We loved it when the Ethiopians were kicking Islamic nutter Somali ass, and we even backed their play on the sly. Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 21, 2008 10:54 PM (OqXyp) 12
I don't foresee Hillary knuckling under to Blowbama, either.
Actually, I could see him pretty much abdicating almost all foreign policy to her, short of actual decisions to send in troops. Narcissists aren't "detail people", and Hillary apparently doesn't mind nitty detail work, which is mostly what diplomacy is 99% of the time. Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 21, 2008 11:03 PM (OqXyp) 13
Do two wrongs make a right? Not usually, but if HRC can somewhat neutralize Obama, I will sleep....less badly....
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Javier Solana. That's the same asshole that was threatening Canada when we shot at their fishing boats back in 1995 as well as some Italian woman. That would have been something I could have gotten behind. Only time I actually respected a Liberal was when Brian Tobin didn't do the standard liberal grovel to the international crowd.
Posted by: Travis at November 21, 2008 11:31 PM (2xHh/) 15
was threatening Canada when we shot at their fishing boats back in 1995
Why were you shooting at fishing boats? Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 21, 2008 11:38 PM (OqXyp) 16
Why were you shooting at fishing boats?
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 21, 2008 11:38 PM (OqXyp) They were fishing in our waters and the stocks were in decline. Posted by: Travis at November 21, 2008 11:40 PM (2xHh/) 17
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They were fishing in our waters.
BFD. Imagine the international howls of outrage if the US shot up people fishing in our waters? Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 21, 2008 11:59 PM (OqXyp) 20
Indeed. Biden is the first one standing in the way between Hillary and the Presidency.
Posted by: Dead Career Sketch at November 22, 2008 12:01 AM (JTN0y) 21
BFD. Imagine the international howls of outrage if the US shot up people fishing in our waters?
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 21, 2008 11:59 PM (OqXyp) It was a big deal in Europe at the time. They were threatening to send a naval flotilla off our shores and a lot of Canadians were talking about F-18's, Harpoon missiles, and rockets. It was actually nice to see that many Canadians were not the gutless weenies the Canadian media wants them to be. It stopped due to the fact that the Spanish had pissed off the British and Norwegians by doing the same in the North Sea. I know that the US doing it would bring out the cuckoo crowd screaming imperialism. Doesn't make sense but it's true. Posted by: Travis at November 22, 2008 12:06 AM (2xHh/) 22
PA..Know anything?
The government knows "something big" is coming; they just don't know what. They are mailing "general mobilization" letters to EVERY former member of EVERY branch of the U.S. military, no matter their age or physical capability, telling them to prepare for recall into the armed forces for a "general mobilization." The last time the USA made a general mobilization was in December, 1941. Posted by: sickinmass at November 22, 2008 12:07 AM (/i4dU) 23
I wonder how many food tasters Joe is going to go through in the next four years? He may have to spend all his time in the bunker eating 60 year old Bully Beef and drinking condensation sponged off the walls if he wants to be sure...
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 22, 2008 12:08 AM (OqXyp) 24
They are mailing "general mobilization" letters to EVERY former member
of EVERY branch of the U.S. military, no matter their age or physical
capability I ain't got one yet. Sounds like a crock. Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 22, 2008 12:10 AM (OqXyp) 25
Off topic here, have you heard that Huffpo just got $15M cash infusion from
Obama, according to the guys at Hillbuzz. http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/ "for expansion into US local politics and “investigative journalism”. Posted by: indiegirl at November 22, 2008 12:14 AM (+jfQK) 26
PA..Thanks! 3 family members got em' and was wondering. Posted by: sickinmass at November 22, 2008 12:15 AM (/i4dU) 27
#25..I read that last afternoon and my blood boiled. Don't know why! Maybe her voice.
obambi and hitlery have posted there.umm Posted by: sickinmass at November 22, 2008 12:19 AM (/i4dU) 28
Will someone here please explain what REAL accomplishments Hillary! and the rest have to merit holding the highest offices in the land? Most of them couldn't get a union job in a supermarket. They can't pass a basic gov't security clearance. Is ruthless self-serving and money grubbing enough to protect our country? Do they even WANT to protect our country?
Posted by: bigchickenlittle at November 22, 2008 12:24 AM (JHxvN) 29
I can't see anyone getting called back unless they're still IRR (or whatever its called now, it was IRR in the late 70's)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 22, 2008 12:26 AM (OqXyp) 30
what REAL accomplishments Hillary! and the rest have to merit holding the highest offices in the land?
Treachery and back stabbing is usually a requirement. The rest you can learn on the job. Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 22, 2008 12:28 AM (OqXyp) 31
Just asking,PA..Every once in awhile, people have to do things they know are bad in order to achieve things they know are good. America as a nation is at such a cross-roads. We are left with two choices: either accept the debauchery, manipulation and usurpation that have taken place, or correct those problems with deliberate and direct action. We can no longer sit idly-by and simply accept the debauchery,manipulation and usurpation. It is going to be corrected very soon by extraordinary and stunning means. Just a feeling. Posted by: sickinmass at November 22, 2008 12:31 AM (/i4dU) 32
We can no longer sit idly-by and simply accept the debauchery,manipulation and usurpation.
Yea, we can. As long as the gas stations have gas, food is on the shelves, and there aren't guys wearing black masks toting machine guns on the street corners, Americans will go along. Four, or even eight years isn't all that long. We accepted 3+ terms of FDR and he was in reality one of the most damaging presidents in US history. Were it not for WWII burnishing his image, he would have gone down as one of the absolute worst. We're not there yet, not even close. Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 22, 2008 12:44 AM (OqXyp) 33
They are mailing "general mobilization" letters to
EVERY former member of EVERY branch of the U.S. military, no matter
their age or physical
capability, telling them to prepare for recall into the armed
forces for a "general mobilization." The last time the USA made a
general mobilization was in December, 1941.
Posted by: sickinmass at November 22, 2008 12:07 AM (/i4dU) There are some letters posted online about this. Is this for real? Why the fuck wouldn't the Pentagon say something about it? Posted by: Travis at November 22, 2008 12:47 AM (2xHh/) 34
I can sleep now. off to my bunk
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Posted by: Jim62sch at November 21, 2008 11:47 PM (6rQXk) OMG, Jim. We must use that for the next 4-years. Do you know how much that will drive the batshit crazies batshit crazy? Posted by: Editor at November 22, 2008 12:51 AM (p4YSL) 36
Travis.. Umm, Maybe because the libtards have taken over the Pentagon and State Dept.?? That's what "crossing the aisle" get's you.
Posted by: sickinmass at November 22, 2008 12:52 AM (/i4dU) 37
Travis.. Umm, Maybe because the libtards have taken
over the Pentagon and State Dept.?? That's what "crossing the aisle"
get's you.
Posted by: sickinmass at November 22, 2008 12:52 AM (/i4dU) Why would the US need a general mobilization? Is there any way to confirm or deny this? Posted by: Travis at November 22, 2008 12:56 AM (2xHh/) 38
Okay, so the signs of something big coming.
1.) Oil dropping like a boulder. 2.) Russians, Venezeulans and Iranians just no likey 3.) Medvedev visiting Central/South Americans. 4.) Chineses visiting Cuba 5.) Iranians with nukes 6.) instability in Pakistan 7.) Barry President... and Joe. I mean, JOE. Posted by: Editor at November 22, 2008 12:57 AM (p4YSL) 39
#35..Editor
From another thread... "Well, once she's gone Barack, she'll never go back." THAT, I will use! Posted by: sickinmass at November 22, 2008 12:58 AM (/i4dU) 40
Before Obama, I could never have imagined I would be happy with Hillary getting anything.
Posted by: Alana at November 22, 2008 01:00 AM (JE2zV) 41
Travis.. PA says it's a crock.
Family got some and I will have them scan or fax to me in morning. I know n-u-u-thing. Posted by: sickinmass at November 22, 2008 01:01 AM (/i4dU) 42
Travis.. PA says it's a crock.
Family got some and I will have them scan or fax to me in morning. I know n-u-u-thing. Posted by: sickinmass at November 22, 2008 01:01 AM (/i4dU) What is PA's former rank?"Letters to Warrant Officers and Sergeants will go out this coming week." The only reason I could see is that they NOW found out that Obama ain't an American citizen. Posted by: Travis at November 22, 2008 01:04 AM (2xHh/) 43
7.) Barry President... and Joe. I mean, JOE.
I HATE when you use 4 letter words!! Posted by: sickinmass at November 22, 2008 01:05 AM (/i4dU) 44
HA!! Finally.. You and alex the chick figured that out!
I get shit whenever I bring it up! I got details I am dying to share with SOMEONE! Posted by: sickinmass at November 22, 2008 01:08 AM (/i4dU) 45
do share, sickinmass. It's late Friday night. We'll call this the "Coast-to-Coast" thread.
Posted by: Editor at November 22, 2008 01:10 AM (p4YSL) 46
The general mobilization thing has got to be BS - what would we do with a sudden influx of hundreds of thousands of former military guys, many of them likely out of shape with only half-remembered training on obsolete tactics and equipment? We probably couldn't even provide enough uniforms for them, much less weapons and equipment.
Some of the super-loony people on the far, far right (like Hal Turner) seem to be pushing this. They think is Obama is planning some kind of domestic power grab. If any president tried doing something like that, there would likely be a mass mutiny. It's just nuttiness. Posted by: Jim62sch at November 22, 2008 01:12 AM (6rQXk) 47
Jim, yeah, that's the likely explanation.... but if you would have told me 2-years ago a hardcore commie would have won the highest office in the land I would have called you a kook.
Now look what happened. I'm not so quick to discount the conspiracy nuts so much, anymore. Yes, discount them, but you just never know, anymore. Posted by: Editor at November 22, 2008 01:15 AM (p4YSL) 48
Obama CONFIRMED born in Kenya by U.S. Ambassador to Kenya.
Marshall service is hiding Obama and family. Back to coast to coast..Lol Posted by: sickinmass at November 22, 2008 01:21 AM (/i4dU) 49
Who told you that? Joe Farah?
Posted by: Editor at November 22, 2008 01:24 AM (p4YSL) 50
Power grab by the Bushes..Now that I would buy!
Have they completed their compound in Paraguay? Posted by: sickinmass at November 22, 2008 01:25 AM (/i4dU) 51
I have serious doubts they could hide a general mobilization.
Posted by: Travis at November 22, 2008 01:25 AM (2xHh/) 52
My Dad. Who get's his paycheck from "Dept of Defense" in Washington.
Posted by: sickinmass at November 22, 2008 01:29 AM (/i4dU) 53
Wasn't it always our Plan B that El Presidente Bush would use the military to seize power for life? Is it OK to talk about this publicly now?
Then he's going to do the Saddam thing and sit in front of Congress, reading names off a list as thugs come in to arrest them. After the first few names, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Dennis Kucinich stop wiping sweat off their foreheads, jump to their feet, and start shouting "Long live President Bush! Long live President Bush!" in a sorry attempt to save themselves. Posted by: Jim62sch at November 22, 2008 01:31 AM (6rQXk) 54
editor..I googled Joe Farah. Now I know. Thanks and goodnight..
Posted by: sickinmass at November 22, 2008 01:35 AM (/i4dU) 55
Wasn't it always our Plan B that El Presidente Bush
would use the military to seize power for life? Is it OK to talk about
this publicly now?
Then he's going to do the Saddam thing and sit in front of Congress, reading names off a list as thugs come in to arrest them. After the first few names, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Dennis Kucinich stop wiping sweat off their foreheads, jump to their feet, and start shouting "Long live President Bush! Long live President Bush!" in a sorry attempt to save themselves.
Posted by: Jim62sch at November 22, 2008 01:31 AM (6rQXk) You know what would be really funny? If Bush actually did that as a joke just before leaving office and watch the liberals go bugshit! Sort of payback for years of taking shit from them. Posted by: Travis at November 22, 2008 01:36 AM (2xHh/) 56
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My Dad. Who get's his paycheck from "Dept of Defense" in Washington.
Posted by: sickinmass at November 22, 2008 01:29 AM (/i4dU) See, now that kind of shit ain't funny. I mean, seriously. Crap. Though, if nothing happens, well, credibility will be a bit damaged. Posted by: Editor at November 22, 2008 01:41 AM (p4YSL) 57
Obama's gonna bring back the vast herds of Naugas that used to roam the great plains. Before they were almost wiped out by the Naugahide hunters.
Posted by: gebrauchshund at November 22, 2008 02:01 AM (pY77a) 58
I'm pretty sure the Army doesn't want 50 year old guys with bad knees and a hernia.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 22, 2008 02:18 AM (OqXyp) 59
The left is always floating this sort of rumor around on blogs. Its the same thing as Bush canceling the election.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 22, 2008 02:20 AM (OqXyp) 60
Europe was fine when it was seperate nations however once the formed the EUROPEAN UNION they have become just the new EUROPEAN SOVIET UNION and the same sinister type want to do it with the USA with the NORTH AMERICAN UNION with CANADA and MEXICO we just prevent this sinister plan STOP THE NAU STOP THE TREASON GET US OUT OF THE UN
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at November 22, 2008 10:19 AM (EAR0/) 61
Hillary is better than Kerry or Albright or Kucinich or Christopher or Leahy or Brezenski or Biden or anyone short of Zell Miller or Lieberman on the Democrat side. Cause you know the depth of the dems on national security/foreign policy matters.
So dems, please tell me again why you voted for Mr. HopeyChangey when we got probably the same cabinet we would have gotten if you voted for Hillary herself? Is it just sexism? or liberal guilt? Not being perceived 'racist' for voting for Obama, is easier than being called a sexist for voting against Hillary? Posted by: eaglewingz08 at November 22, 2008 10:21 AM (W88Qb) 62
I was a boiler tech in the USN 74-86. The BT rate no longer exists, Navy ships are eithe gas turbine or nuclear. If they call me back I am going to be really bored. i guess I can hang out with the sail makers. That call up rumor makes no sense!!
Posted by: Bob T at November 22, 2008 03:34 PM (DmlVS) 63
Hillary didn't win the nomination and yet we are getting the Clinton administration. Why is the media even bothering to call it anything other than that, that's EXACTLY what it is.
Posted by: USA FUBAR at November 22, 2008 05:25 PM (B/Y39) 64
The media declared "Clinton fatigue" previously, so they have to maintain this fiction.
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