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| Convicted Felon And All Round Worthless Piece Of Shit Ted Stevens Loses Senate RaceAny other time this would be great news. I was hoping he'd win, get kicked out by the Senate and then replaced by a Republican (hello Senator Palin) but alas it's not to be. Stevens' ouster on his 85th birthday marks an abrupt realignment in Alaska politics and will alter the power structure in the Senate, where he has served since the days of the Johnson administration while holding seats on some of the most influential committees in Congress. ...Tuesday's tally of just over 24,000 absentee and other ballots gave Begich 146,286, or 47.56 percent, to 143,912, or 46.76 percent, for Stevens. A recount is possible.That means that Democrats are just 2 seats short of their filibuster proof majority. With the recount in Minnesota and a run-off Georgia, they could still reach that number. Of course, with squishy Republicans like Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, Arlan Specter and maybe even Maverick McCain, we may have already crossed the threshold. Also [Gabe]: Loved this line from AP: The crotchety octogenarian built like a birch sapling likes to encourage comparisons with the Incredible Hulk, but he occupies an outsized place in Alaska history.Don't Let it Happen Again [ace]: Here's an idea: The next time this happens (which it will), the party elders should full-court press the jackoff to resign or, barring that, vigorously support a challenger. This is six years of a Senate seat that should be ours. Lost. For six years. Senate collegiality-- we have some more important things to think about than whether our Senators are being properly collegial to their buddies. Comments1
Oh we've definitely crossed the threshold. We will see cap-and-trade, Obama's socialized-health-care-lite...Heck there was even talk that Specter might outright switch parties. He used to be a Democrat you know. (I know, you are all surprised!)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 18, 2008 10:10 PM (kFh+o) 2
Yeah I also hoped the SOB would win and get kicked out, but on the other hand in an effort to reach across the aisle, the Dem's might have voted against the expulsion, and then used used Stevens as a whipping boy.
This fiasco was pretty much a lose-lose situation. Anyway Palin needs to finish her term as governor. Posted by: jbarntt at November 18, 2008 10:10 PM (qSalV) 3
59 seats + political cover from 1 republican would be better for the Dems anyway. 'Bipartisanship' and all that. Are there any Republican senators that reach across the aisle a lot? I thought I heard something like that about 10,000 times a few weeks ago from some loser.
Posted by: kefka at November 18, 2008 10:12 PM (Ui4gz) 4
Maybe the Dems will make McCain realize his dream of being elected "Ms. Congeniality of the Senate' if he switches parties.
Posted by: kefka at November 18, 2008 10:14 PM (Ui4gz) 5
From Ace's deleted post:
Here's an idea: The next time this happens, the party elders should full-court press the jackoff to resign or, barring that, vigorously support a challenger. I think you missed the memo Ace. Principles are not a factor in who we support for office. The only important thing is we back the most electable candidate with the right letter after their name. The only way to convince our wayward "leaders" to support our views is to keep electing them. Posted by: krakatoa at November 18, 2008 10:23 PM (/FUhT) 6
Stevens. Addition by subtraction.
OK. Off topic but I can't tell if this guy is brilliant or out to ruin the best movies of my youth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5_OSsawz4&eurl Posted by: locus ceruleus at November 18, 2008 10:24 PM (e2mBS) 7
This is six years of a Senate seat that should be ours. Lost. For six fucking years.
Fixed it for ya. Posted by: AndrewsDad at November 18, 2008 10:28 PM (s1JNo) 8
Is this the signal for a scorched-earth party? I mean jeez, huge minority in the house, almost down to 40 in the senate, and lost the Presidency. I think it's time for a bit of a shake-up. This is a good start, I guess. Posted by: paranoidpyro at November 18, 2008 10:29 PM (W4Ivi) 9
What's your opinion on Chuck Hagel? Where did jump off the train? I can remember a few years back thinking he seemed like a nice Republican.. What went wrong? He was bashing Rush today on CNN.
Posted by: josey at November 18, 2008 10:30 PM (SjAvA) 10
Let them get 60. 59 seats is worse.
Imagine them blaming everything on republicans who wouldn't let them do anything cuz of a potential filibuster. 60, with the no excuse clause that brings, works better for the future of republicans in washington. Posted by: lorien1973 at November 18, 2008 10:32 PM (ddGv/) 11
josey 9 - what was he saying?
Posted by: Shannon at November 18, 2008 10:34 PM (q0Z3p) 12
The party can't do anything to control a guy like Stevens. Once he gets elected he can raise his own money. Look at Lieberman.
But if the Mark Foley thing is any indication, the replacement will be twice as corrupt as Stevens. Posted by: AmishDude at November 18, 2008 10:41 PM (GlrN/) 13
Wasn't he convicted of income tax evasion? so will Jefferson and Rangel be next?
Posted by: Dem Fixer at November 18, 2008 10:41 PM (uZYha) 14
Fuck, I lost my comment. Shorter version: Fuck all of you Republican Comity Club assholes. Thanks for screwing the chances of real Americans who put their nuts and souls on the line for this country to have decent adult leadership, and instead handing over the wheelhouse to the fucking Marxists. Fuck you very deeply, and sincerely. Leftists - I expect them to try to fuck me over. But you assholes... I don't want to hear a fucking thing from you except the fucking screen door hitting your ass! Posted by: sherlock at November 18, 2008 10:42 PM (ojW85) 15
Ace, I agree with the concept of immediate purging. Any sign of "rot" must be investigated and dealt with immediately. If there are no consequences to corruption. how do you control it? If corruption is accepted as a consequence of doing business how can you expect ethical standards to be observed? Without standards, how can anyone be trusted to serve his constituents? There can be no conservative movement if we will not police our self and hold our leaders to the standards epitomized in the conservative ideals.
Posted by: Hephaestus at November 18, 2008 10:43 PM (6MZ3i) 16
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Let them get 60. 59 seats is worse.
Imagine them blaming everything on republicans who wouldn't let them do anything cuz of a potential filibuster. I might agree with you, but they're going to blame everything on Bush anyway. We're f'ked. We're f'ked the other way. Face it, we're just f'ked. Let's just get drunk. Posted by: AD at November 18, 2008 10:48 PM (dW9kw) 17
Stevens was convicted for not disclosing sweet deal home repairs or improvements or some such. Obambi, didn't he get some kind of sweet deal for his house or the property next door? I'm asking. What's the dif?? Am I missing something?
Posted by: CInAz at November 18, 2008 10:48 PM (f/8YE) 18
Why doesn't the GOP maintain a unit of investigators whose job is to ferret out and remove the deadwood before it becomes a scandal. Or would there be anyone left in the Republican Party when they were done?
Posted by: Travis at November 18, 2008 10:49 PM (ZKYL4) 19
We have gangrene in our elephant. Let it spread and die or do the hard thing now.
Posted by: locus ceruleus at November 18, 2008 10:51 PM (e2mBS) 20
Or would there be anyone left in the Republican Party when they were done?
Are you normally in the habit of answering your own questions? Posted by: krakatoa at November 18, 2008 10:51 PM (/FUhT) 21
If Alaska Republicans are really unable to think more than one move ahead, I need to get them into a chess game for money, fast. Before the government gets it all.
As for the "they should have 60 seats, then they won't have any excuses" crowd, you seem to be unaware of exactly how much damage an untrammeled Democratic majority can (and probably will) do in the next two to six years. National defense and the first and second amendments all stand to be irreparably harmed in that time frame. Offshore drilling? Forget about it. Say hello to "card check", too. And from that kind of damage, there's no turning back. And if you think that we can then automatically use that record to turn things around adn win at the polls, you are dreaming. First, there's the power of incumbency, which includes incredible amounts of campaign cash to drown out all opposition. Second, there's the demonstrated ability of Democrats to flat-out lie (and be believed) in order to walk back from their own voting records (remember the Iraq authorization of force resolution, anyone?). And third, with a captive press corps and no freedom of speech, you probably won't even be able to articulate your message. So be careful what you wish for. You just might get it. Posted by: HT at November 18, 2008 10:52 PM (2ttsP) 22
Well at least now we get to test the suicide republican's theory. I just hope we produce enough alcohol to muddle through it.
Posted by: runninrebel at November 18, 2008 10:53 PM (ocqQA) 23
Are you normally in the habit of answering your own questions?
Posted by: krakatoa at November 18, 2008 10:51 PM (/FUhT) Just hoping someone would tell me there really is a Santa! Posted by: Travis at November 18, 2008 10:53 PM (ZKYL4) 24
You know it's conceivable, this is not the end of this. That D.C. jury really screwed up when interpreting the jury instructions (yeah big surprise) so Stevens might get an appeal out of it. Oh and by the way; who does this benefit; Ron Paul,! who backed this weasel in the primary.
Posted by: narciso at November 18, 2008 10:54 PM (9EG7Z) 25
DrewM, lost for six years? Two years from now thirty-three or thirty-four Senators stand for re-election. The Senate is divided into groups of three, called classes; I think, and they rotate for re-election every two years.
Posted by: Pelayo at November 18, 2008 10:54 PM (nw+cE) 26
There's hope two years from now that we can make up some ground. I misread your sentence. I thought you meant the whole Senate was lost for six years. Posted by: Pelayo at November 18, 2008 10:59 PM (nw+cE) 27
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Posted by: U.S. Dept of Fairness at November 18, 2008 11:03 PM (p33D8) Posted by: Travis at November 18, 2008 11:06 PM (ZKYL4) 29
Same two points I always make:
1) Next time a GOP head says to vote for the wussy incumbent (a-la Arlen Specter or Linc Chafee) against an actual conservative rival simply to preserve a majority, the answer MUST be "No Effing Way!" and 2) When we found out our standard-bearer was John McCain, the first thing the GOP should've done is realize the presidency was lost, and to focus like hell on the Congressional races, which, of course, no-one did until it was wayyy too late. Crap. Posted by: red speck at November 18, 2008 11:07 PM (SRmYf) 30
Oh... and Romney/Palin in '12
Wouldn't it be nice to have a guy who knows how to turn crappy business environments around right about now? But he'd never work out... he's (shhh!) a em-oh-arr-em-oh-enn. Posted by: red speck at November 18, 2008 11:10 PM (SRmYf) 31
Palin/Romney would work but NOT Romney/Palin.
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Does this guy not realize we all know it's the same guy posting each of them? I've seen it pointed out to him at least four times now, but apparently the hints weren't strong enough. Posted by: AD at November 18, 2008 11:17 PM (dW9kw) 35
@6 - OK. Off topic but I can't tell if this guy is brilliant or out to ruin the best movies of my youth. That is gayer than a bag of dicks. Posted by: CCooper at November 18, 2008 11:21 PM (N/k4Z) 36
Does this guy not realize we all know it's the same
guy posting each of them? I've seen it pointed out to him at least
four times now, but apparently the hints weren't strong enough.
Posted by: AD at November 18, 2008 11:17 PM (dW9kw) Did you see the video on who voted for Obama? They ain't exactly the brightest lights on the tree! Posted by: Travis at November 18, 2008 11:21 PM (ZKYL4) 37
The corrupt asshole Stevens was not expelled from the Senate. Apparently his crimes were serious enough to warrant expulsion, by Senate standards.
Isn't that depressing? Posted by: OregonMuse at November 18, 2008 11:21 PM (bMJ2V) 38
Sigh. Let's try this again:
The corrupt asshole Stevens was not expelled from the Senate. Apparently his crimes were not serious enough to warrant expulsion, not by Senate standards. Isn't that depressing? Posted by: OregonMuse at November 18, 2008 11:23 PM (bMJ2V) 39
The best thing about a President Palin (whenever that comes to pass) will be watching the heads of clowns like 'bob' explode.
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Posted by: U.S. Dept of Fairness at November 18, 2008 11:14 PM
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Did you see the video on who voted for Obama? They ain't exactly the brightest lights on the tree!
Posted by: Travis at November 18, 2008 11:21 PM (ZKYL4) Seriously, what idiot tries this? The idea that he'd actually think this would work says more about the guy's own idiocy than anything else - like when my dog used to play innocent after a slice of bacon went missing - who do you think you're kidding? Posted by: AD at November 18, 2008 11:24 PM (dW9kw) 42
OregonMuse 37 - yes, but it also seems more telling to me. Makes one wonder what's going on that we haven't heard about yet.
Posted by: Shannon at November 18, 2008 11:25 PM (q0Z3p) 43
Good fucking riddance!! Not a conservative, just another greedy bird dipping his beak in the taxpayer's pool. Rout 'em all out, Pubs or Dems, Party be damned!
Posted by: rls at November 18, 2008 11:25 PM (k4h7p) 44
lower taxes (where applicable i.e. not during a war)
Well, that there is a dead giveaway for a concern troll. What exactly is the rational for increasing taxes in a time of war, "bob?" That we should all 'feel the pain' by paying more taxes for more stupid leftist social programs? Because if your argument is that we should increase taxes to gain more revenue for the war effort then you're either ignorant to economics or a concern troll. Which is it? Posted by: runninrebel at November 18, 2008 11:26 PM (ocqQA) 45
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Posted by: U.S. Dept of Fairness at November 18, 2008 11:26 PM (p33D8) Posted by: AD at November 18, 2008 11:27 PM (dW9kw) 47
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Posted by: U.S. Dept of Fairness at November 18, 2008 11:28 PM (p33D8) 48
Another failure of the primary process. We gotta get the losers off the ballot before the general election or this will keep happening. That's really what happened this year, the only way to get rid of bad Republicans is to vote for the Democrat. That's what people do. And Bob, Sarah Palin doesn't care who you fuck. The bitch is a libertarian. Get over it. Posted by: Ronsonic at November 18, 2008 11:28 PM (ywSvi) 49
I'm not saying you can't do it (though other people will decide that) - I'm saying you're an idiot.
Posted by: AD at November 18, 2008 11:30 PM (dW9kw) 50
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Posted by: U.S. Dept of Fairness at November 18, 2008 11:33 PM (p33D8) 51
Come on now, USA free speech lighten up.
This "free speech" you speak of does not mean what you think it means. Posted by: DrewM. at November 18, 2008 11:37 PM (hlYel) 52
Senate collegiality-- we have some more important things to think about than whether our Senators are being properly collegial to their buddies. Thats correct, first and foremost we must be closely in tune to what the New York Times editorial board is saying about us. Assuming it's ok with them we should then defer to senate collegiality. In this case Ted Stevens gives the best handjobs in the senate next to Lyndsey "soft hands warm heart" Graham. He's also an easy out at the thursday night poker tournament so, really, nobody wanted to see him go. I can only imagine that my friends in Alaska would have done the right thing and given him another term if they had ever had the pleasure of recieving one of his fabled warm oil handjobs while simultaneously taking him for $5,000 in a poker game.
Posted by: John McCain at November 18, 2008 11:41 PM (RWzXM) 53
That is gayer than a bag of dicks. Holy fuckin' shit. You're right there. That was so gay the guy keeled over and died of AIDS at the end of the video. Fucking pathetic. Posted by: Senator Pat Geary at November 18, 2008 11:43 PM (gHrZU) 54
How about that RNC chairman huh? Big piece of crap Duncan is!
We need a new person in that post next year. Anyone who votes for Duncan should immediately be removed from whatever position he or she is in the RNC. Posted by: Jenny C. at November 18, 2008 11:44 PM (dXKmj) 55
We're f'ked. We're f'ked the other way. Face it, we're just f'ked. Let's just get drunk.
Posted by: AD at November 18, 2008 10:48 PM (dW9kw) I'm waaaaaay ahead of you. Posted by: Big E at November 18, 2008 11:45 PM (RWzXM) Posted by: CCooper at November 18, 2008 11:50 PM (N/k4Z) 57
To make you feel better, just imagine the judges that Obama is going to foist on us. Not just SCOTUS (pray for Scalia's and Thomas' health)...the entire federal judiciary is going to look like the 9th Circuit...for decades.
Pass the Valu-Rite..... Posted by: Dr. Remulak at November 18, 2008 11:51 PM (AJ8lg) 58
perfectly fine with me. Sarah most likely wont be running for the senate now, and can actually get some real work done at the state level.
Posted by: ousoonerfan15 at November 18, 2008 11:56 PM (yAq/A) 59
I can only hpe that the Alaska Republican Party can take a delivery from the clue train and make honesty a priority moving forward.
Mr. Stevens' corruption stands in sharp contrast with another Alaska pol who resigned from an ethics committee before allowing her integrity be compromised. Certain nimrods say that Mrs. Palin's popularity is due to her being a Christian, Mike Huckabee in a skirt. However, I think it is her stand against political corruption. Republicans were kicked out of Congress in 2006 because they were regarded as corrupt, but they were replaced by even more corrupt Democrats. Could Republicans capitalize on a lower-than-pond scum approval rating of Congress? Not with guys like Ted Stevens. Posted by: steve poling at November 19, 2008 12:01 AM (UWHTf) 60
...just imagine the judges that Obama is going to
foist on us. Not just SCOTUS (pray for Scalia's and Thomas'
health)...the entire federal judiciary is going to look like the 9th
Circuit...for decades.
Yeah, this is the only part of the Obama presidency that I find really, really painful. Any other mischief he can get into, we can recover from in less than 5 or 6 years, I'd say, but the demented moonbats and commies he's going to appoint to the bench will be fucking up the country for many years. Posted by: OregonMuse at November 19, 2008 12:05 AM (bMJ2V) 61
Certain nimrods say that Mrs. Palin's popularity is due to her being a Christian,
I'd say almost the opposite. I'd say that the obscenely vitriolic attacks she has had to endure (along with her family, don't forget), unbelievably out of proportion to anything she's ever said or done in her life, is because she's a Christian. There's no doubt in my mind about that. Posted by: OregonMuse at November 19, 2008 12:11 AM (bMJ2V) Posted by: CCooper at November 19, 2008 12:15 AM (N/k4Z) 63
@ 6 off-topic, George Lucas ruined Star Wars a long time ago with all that CGI crap. I can't bear to go to movies anymore with that shit in it. Give me the days of models and stop-motion please.
Posted by: Mike H at November 19, 2008 12:38 AM (1V2sa) 64
I think Ted Stevens was handed a bad hand. There are others guilty too.
Posted by: Lucky L at November 19, 2008 12:48 AM (5pi8/) Posted by: Biscuiteater at November 19, 2008 02:03 AM (2JF/+) 66
Don't Let it Happen Again [ace]: Here's an idea: The next time
this happens (which it will), the party elders should full-court press
the jackoff to resign or, barring that, vigorously support a challenger.
With all due respect, Ace...the "party elders" probably supported Stevens....and Dole.....and Sununu...and Coleman....yada yada yada. We need some new blood in the leadership. The Dems thought that it looked bleak in 2002-2004....they had no idea. Posted by: Dr. Remulak at November 19, 2008 02:09 AM (AJ8lg) 67
Its a failure that has been on the loom for the past twenty years. Iraq I started the whole mess. Why couldnt we just have over run that place back then? Oh yea Bush fucked it up. Geewhiz.
Posted by: Lucky L at November 19, 2008 02:19 AM (5pi8/) 68
If the Dems get 60 in the senate and run rough-shod over the country as we know it, they'll pay in '10... ...if we ever get someone who can effectively communicate the facts to the masses. There will never be anyone in the MSM alerting the country of Dem faults and failures. Too bad this slaughter didn't include McCain's senate seat along with Graham and far too many of thier "gang of #" club. Posted by: RoyS at November 19, 2008 02:48 AM (i7nrr) 69
Reminds of this insanity; 54% of Catholics voted for the Democrat who advocated killing the baby after it is born while Republicans shoot themselves in the head over a man who sent text messages to consensual adults.
Stevens is now out for earmarks for building abridge while John Murtha remains in office building the entire state of PA off earmarks.
Orwellian. Posted by: syn at November 19, 2008 07:04 AM (44k31) 70
"Republican For A Reason" Duncan wants input.
The RNC forced the party into Progressive mode. Permeating Progressives already owning the DNC spread their wealth to usurp the RNC. Propaganda campaign attacking conservatism works so far as people buy into the need to keep up with the Jones' neo-Liberalism. The sooner McCain is replaced with the conservative JD Hayworth AZ Senate 2010, the better off conservatism and the RNC will be. So long as McCain stays around, he will nationally sabotage every conservative effort in order to play the Progressive game as a big shot. "Obviously." I was hoping Stevens could somehow scrape through the ballot count to be replaced with a GOP appointment. Wrong time as the CHANGE mantra backwind blew through. It will be interesting to find how the new Alaskan Senator works for his state's best interests alongside Gov. Palin. For Palin to complete her term as Governor of Alaska is good for her as she has the time (and prestige) to follow up on her Alaskan state itinerary on schedule while studying international/national problems seriously. She has now made the necessary contacts and political alliances to promote her experience and talents with opportunities to serve the national conservative movement as the RNC reorganizes. She enjoys the support of conservatives. Despite election disappointments, Palin provides the conservative movement magnetic energy on the national radar, preparing effective response. With Palin, it is not just the likes of Fred Thompson for Constitutional First Principles or Newt Gingrich with Contract for America or Karl Rove's analysis. With Palin, there's a strong and contemporary currency with her own talent of connecting with people through a mutual ideal. And unlike Huckabee and Romney, with Palin there is neither penis envy nor ideological elitism as to who is or is not a decent Christian person ready to serve the people. Unlike those two men, Palin is not judging who qualifies as a significant individual entity in the eyes of God. So far as personal maturity goes, Palin's earned her star status as a popular conservative unifying leader. Divisive qualities are not Palin's, but her detractors'. Just knowing that Palin's on the scene, even if in Alaska, sparks a sense of optimism for our future. She leads Alaska, the most promising state in our union, the only state still comprising the final wilderness frontier wherein the old adage "go west, young man, go west" applies with all the promise of struggle for security and successful prosperity. Alaskans should thank their lucky stars that Palin experienced national politics at this critical moment in time to lead Alaska's future all the better. Posted by: GI Joe at November 19, 2008 07:21 AM (F1b/5) 71
Tom Coburn is one of few people in the Senate who is not a jerkoff.
Posted by: easyliving1 at November 19, 2008 09:37 AM (QYfb9) 72
I think Ted Stevens was handed a bad hand. There are others guilty too.
Of course, but he's still a dumbass old crook and needed to be eliminated. At least a dozen other Senators and at least 100 in the house could be similarly charged. Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 19, 2008 11:21 AM (OqXyp) 73
Sucked in LOSERS. Another seat bites the dust.
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