Good Lord: Woman Falls for Nigerian Email Scam to the Tune of <i>$400,000</i>

Good Lord: Woman Falls for Nigerian Email Scam to the Tune of $400,000

Don't feel bad for her. Feel bad for her husband. It was his retirement account she squandered -- even after being repeatedly informed it was a scam and she needed to stop sending money.

An Oregon woman who is out $400,000 after falling for a well-known Internet scam says she wasn't a sucker or an easy mark.
Janella Spears of Sweet Home says she simply became curious when she received an e-mail promising her $20.5 million if she would only help out a long-lost relative identified as J.B. Spears with a little money up front.
Spears told KATU-TV about the scammers' ability to identify her relative by name was persuasive.
"That's what got me to believe it," She said. "So, why wouldn't you send over $100?"

If someone can successfully toss out a name that may or may not be a relative (and may or may not even be a living person), why wouldn't you believe him?

Spears, who is a nursing administrator and CPR teacher, said she mortgaged the house and took a lien out on the family car, and ran through her husband's retirement account.
"The retirement he was dreaming of — cruising and going around and seeing America — is pretty much gone for him right now," she said.

It's gone for him right now? Unless her husband is actually Bear Sterns, I'd say it's gone forever.

...
Her family and bank officials told her it was all a scam, she said, and begged her to stop, but she persisted because she became obsessed with getting paid.
...
The scammers sent Spears official-looking documents and certificates from the Bank of Nigeria and the United Nations. President Bush and FBI Director Robert Mueller were also involved, the e-mails said, and needed her help.
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"The hope is [other people] are not going to fall as hard as I fell," Spears said.

Little chance of that, lady.

In related news, I need only 50 (fifty) thousand US to get my brother, Stinky, the Crown Prince of Madeupistan, out of prison.

Via Hot Air.

Posted by: Ace at 11:08 PM

Comments

1 Viva Stinky, Viva Revolucion!

Posted by: not funny at November 17, 2008 11:10 PM (EkODt)

2 What's the big deal?

Posted by: Lady Fanny of Omaha at November 17, 2008 11:12 PM (8T2pi)

3 Another Obama voter?

Posted by: 80 Proof at November 17, 2008 11:12 PM (Q+6qd)

4 I'm thinking hubby is wondering if he has enough left over to pay for a divorce...

...seriously, if one of my relatives were mentioned, the first thing I would do is contact that relative.

Posted by: G at November 17, 2008 11:12 PM (FAYNo)

5 What??? That email from the nice Nigerian man was a scam???

Posted by: I.B. Newby at November 17, 2008 11:12 PM (dBb94)

4 I'm thinking hubby is wondering if he has enough left over to pay for a divorce...

Or a bullet.

Posted by: I.B. Newby at November 17, 2008 11:13 PM (dBb94)

7 Oooo-klahoma okalahoma oklahoma oklahoma!

Posted by: Ruprect at November 17, 2008 11:14 PM (8T2pi)

8 Sad. We need a crack unit to go after these scum. Staff it with lawyers and forensic accountants. We could train them by sending after the bailout club members first.

Posted by: locus ceruleus at November 17, 2008 11:15 PM (e2mBS)

9 God, help us all...

Posted by: Ginger at November 17, 2008 11:15 PM (/JUXI)

10 So, how does this work again?

Posted by: US Auto Industry at November 17, 2008 11:16 PM (B+HYX)

11 Hi guys,

I need 35 billion to save the global economy.

Yours truly,
GM CEO

Posted by: GM CEO at November 17, 2008 11:17 PM (jKblc)

12 And now, the rest of the story...

.... Mrs. Spears is also known in Nigeria as "Mikey Mouse".

Posted by: Editor at November 17, 2008 11:18 PM (p4YSL)

13 There was something here in Washington state (and maybe elsewhere?) a few months ago about crooks targeting older people, they'd find out the names of the teenage grandkids and then call up and tell the grandparents that they were in trouble and needed some money and didn't want to upset their parents so could the grandparent please help out. Some people fell for it and wired money.

Posted by: ParanoidInSeattle at November 17, 2008 11:18 PM (AJ4xq)

14 We need a crack unit to go after these scum.

Seems like a self-correcting problem to me.

Posted by: arbuthnot at November 17, 2008 11:19 PM (Tw7Fm)

15 Where's Janella's bailout?

Figures her name is Spears. Even marrying into that family causes people's brains to evaporate.

Posted by: denise at November 17, 2008 11:21 PM (zcIrD)

16 So, nobody reads the sidebar?

Posted by: someone at November 17, 2008 11:21 PM (1wXl7)

divorce attorney?

No, what this guy needs is a life insurance salesman. Put a $1,000,000 policy on her continuing ability to convert O2 into CO2, and then arrange for a "tragic accident".

Get a jury of married men, and you'll see the fastest acquittal in history.

Posted by: Russ from Winterset at November 17, 2008 11:21 PM (cdAdD)

18 All ur dollarz are belong to us.

Posted by: Nigerian Scam Cat at November 17, 2008 11:22 PM (B+HYX)

19 1. Why didn't her husband make her stop? Or, at least prevent her from accessing his retirement account and joint savings.

2. Why didn't the husband or the bank suggest to the husband to get a conservatorship on her. Seems like she may qualify.

3. Why didn't some one call the cops and have them read her the riot act?

4. Why didn't someone throw the computer out the window and cancel the isp?

5. How could she get a mortgage on the house without her husband's permission?

Posted by: Perry Mason at November 17, 2008 11:24 PM (P1Evy)

20 Don't worry guys. The $400,000 was spent on creating jobs in Nigeria. Better than creating jobs in America, where the retired husband would have spent money at evil corporations across the country.

And good Lord, 400k? You just know that wasn't a blue collar worker. So the Nigerian fellow was nice to redistribute the wealth to those poor and helpless Nigerians living in squalor and being forced to breathe in those dangerous DDT fumes die from Malaria from too many mosquitoes.

Posted by: GM CEO at November 17, 2008 11:24 PM (jKblc)

21 So, nobody reads the sidebar?

Dude, it's Ace. You know he doesn't read this blog.

Posted by: Andy at November 17, 2008 11:25 PM (B+HYX)

22 Yes, someone. Read it long ago.

Are we supposed to go ALL the way back to the "Top Headlines Comment Thread"? Geeze - there's no fun in that.

Posted by: Editor at November 17, 2008 11:25 PM (p4YSL)

23 Documents implicated President Bush, did you catch that? Bush lied. Janella cried.

Posted by: kwiebe at November 17, 2008 11:28 PM (PGrdo)

Since we are doing sidebar stuff - if I watch that penguin video, do I really get a happy ending?

Posted by: blaster at November 17, 2008 11:30 PM (KpEAZ)

25 Hmmmm.

@ Ace

"In related news, I need only 50 (fifty) thousand US to get my brother, Stinky, the Crown Prince of Madeupistan, out of prison."

Amazingly enough I have a brother by that name so this -must- be legitimate!

Now I would normally wire the money but in this case I'm going to test my superhero powers, gained from watching the show "Heroes", to teleport the money into your wallet.

In the interest of safety please do -NOT- place wallet in your back pocket as my teleport attempts are sometimes off by a couple inches.

Posted by: memomachine at November 17, 2008 11:30 PM (f4Zt4)

26 I bet she voted for Oba...

What, you've done that joke already?

Well mayb eshe can get a bail...

That's done to death, too?

How about this: I wonder how much of her husband's retirement found it's way into the Obama coffers? Maybe SoS Clinton will get right on returning her money?

Ugh, it's going to be a long four years.

Posted by: Methos at November 17, 2008 11:30 PM (qcpaS)

Had to have been an O voter.

Posted by: RW at November 17, 2008 11:31 PM (B/Y39)

28 Uffdah.

maybe she

Posted by: Methos at November 17, 2008 11:31 PM (qcpaS)

29 PLEASE Lord, let it be a flaming douche bag liberal that got taken! I know the odds are good being Oregon and all, but PLEASE give me con-fir-ma-shun!

Can I get an 'Amen?'

Posted by: Stitches at November 17, 2008 11:33 PM (KyqYb)

30 Amen!

Posted by: Methos at November 17, 2008 11:34 PM (qcpaS)

31 I'm guessing that guys new retirement plans include hoarding large cardboard boxes and Valu Rite Vodka.

Bounus is a new hobo to hunt that will bless Ace as the coup de grace is implemented.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 17, 2008 11:35 PM (MOdlB)

Obama will stop this nonsense....//////////

The sooner YOU are poor...The sooner you will love his "new" policies.

///// sarc/// or, maybe...not.

Posted by: Hugh Jass at November 17, 2008 11:36 PM (fFPJb)

33 It's too bad the wife can't be charged with theft and imprisoned. She deserves it under the circumstances.

Posted by: Christoph at November 17, 2008 11:36 PM (hawOV)

34 What has GOT to keep this woman up at night more than her husband's incessant "I told you fuckin' so's!" is knowing that there is an entire neighborhood somewhere in Nigeria completely blitzed out of its collective gourd...on HER dime! Bwahahahah!

Posted by: Stitches at November 17, 2008 11:40 PM (KyqYb)

35 Oregonians sure are stupid.

Oh, wait...

Posted by: OregonMuse at November 17, 2008 11:41 PM (bMJ2V)

36 My Dear Mr. Ace -
All best of good wishes to you today. I am most intersted to hear of your brother Stinky and his need for assistance. Most blessed I am able to be of help. Please send to me all your banking information and I will have my Attorney General deposit the sum of $700 Billion dollars to your account.

Posted by: Less at November 17, 2008 11:43 PM (PGXeZ)

37 I'm sorry but this part is the funniest part of the story.

An Oregon woman who is out $400,000 after falling for a well-known Internet scam says she wasn't a sucker or an easy mark.

K

Posted by: Kestrel♠ at November 17, 2008 11:43 PM (ZasG8)

38 I'll bet if he shot her no jury would convict.

Posted by: brian at November 17, 2008 11:45 PM (l1ZLu)

39 Not only did this man allow her to mortgage his house and clean out his retirement despite continued warning. But now he's allowing her dumb-ass to announce their collosal stupidity to the entire world on TV?!?!?

There was a time when people would be too ashamed to ever let anyone find out about such scandal. Now they are trying to 'warn others' (translation: "but I'm still smarter than you").

Posted by: Brian at November 17, 2008 11:46 PM (THbsC)

40 "An Oregon woman who is out $400,000 after falling for a well-known Internet scam says she wasn't a sucker or an easy mark."

I actually think she might have been. Or perhaps just kindhearted.

Posted by: Christoph at November 17, 2008 11:46 PM (hawOV)

41 I've been on this Jim Jones kick. One, because the 30 year anniversary is tomorrow, and two, there was a story in the local rag about how one of the members grew up in a house near me.

Anyway, I googled Jones and homosexual and found this blog. This guy seems to have one of the same obessions Jones had.

Posted by: Perry Mason at November 17, 2008 11:48 PM (P1Evy)

42 "I'll bet if he shot her no jury would convict."

I'd feel ethically bound to admit I wouldn't convict ahead of time so I'd never be seated. I wonder if that would be contempt?

When the judge and I stopped laughing maybe he'd cite me for it.

Posted by: Christoph at November 17, 2008 11:48 PM (hawOV)

43 Does anyone else think that Hank Paulson fell for this and forwarded 350 billion to these guys? Now he knows he was scammed and is trying to hide it.

Posted by: mrcaniac at November 17, 2008 11:51 PM (Rbulg)

44 Reading that article about Jim Jones, I'm just astonished at the stupidity of people. More so than usual and that's saying something.

Posted by: Christoph at November 17, 2008 11:51 PM (hawOV)

45 Sorry, the link doesn't work. Try this:

http://tinyurl.com/6kasvc

Posted by: Perry Mason at November 17, 2008 11:52 PM (P1Evy)

46 I'd bet $400,000 she voted for O.

Posted by: C Smith at November 17, 2008 11:53 PM (2wg4Y)

47 I'd bet $400,000 she voted for O. -Posted by: C Smith at November 17, 2008 11:53 PM

I bet she donated $400k to the O campaign. Or better yet, perhaps O is the one who sent the letter?

Posted by: Brian at November 17, 2008 11:56 PM (THbsC)

48 Folks, Ace is scamming you. I can bust Stinky out for only $25K. Ace just wants the other $25K for hookers and blow.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 17, 2008 11:56 PM (OqXyp)

49 $25k for hookers and blow? I believe they call that the Full Spitzer package.

Posted by: blaster at November 18, 2008 12:01 AM (KpEAZ)

50 Hey- I fell for Obama... Give the woman a break.

Posted by: America at November 18, 2008 12:01 AM (KOkrW)

An Oregon woman who is out $400,000 after falling for a well-known Internet scam says she wasn't a sucker or an easy mark.

maybe not. She is now...

Posted by: America at November 18, 2008 12:03 AM (KOkrW)

52 hey i forgot to unplug the sockpuppet

Posted by: Jones at November 18, 2008 12:03 AM (KOkrW)

53 I bet she got scammed buying old used coffee filters stuffed in a sock being sold as "rare" Beanie Babys on eBay too.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 18, 2008 12:07 AM (OqXyp)

It's all good.

I just hit Ace's tip jar for 50k from my Paypal account.

He promises a 10x return on advertising revenue from the blog, so now all I have to do is kick back and watch the money roll in. Suckas!

I'll send y'all pics from my new beachfront house in the Bahamas.

Posted by: genghis at November 18, 2008 12:07 AM (1XErj)

55 Now you can go out and do something really stupid and say, "Sure, that was dumb, but not 'woman from Oregon' dumb".

Posted by: eman at November 18, 2008 12:11 AM (c+KEH)

56 Not only did this man allow her to mortgage his house and clean out his retirement despite continued warning. But now he's allowing her dumb-ass to announce their collosal stupidity to the entire world on TV?!?!?

See, there's probably a royal buttload of information about what happened and about this couple that we just don't know. That's the only way I can understand all the WTF questions that pop up out of this story like toadstools.

Posted by: OregonMuse at November 18, 2008 12:11 AM (bMJ2V)

57 Reading the Jonestown Wikipedia article, it becomes clear they were a bunch of commies.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 12:13 AM (hawOV)

Hah hah. the joke's on her husband --- and us.

The woman disappeared yesterday and has resurfaced in Lagos with her secret Nigerian lover, Mbwowa Wowzowi.

They plan a honeymoon in Biafra, where Wowizowi has a villa abutting an ancient tribal burial ground....

Posted by: Greeting!!! at November 18, 2008 12:15 AM (dBb94)

59

HOLY SHIT!
I remembered a site were they bait the scammers.
It seems to be quite a sport with these folks.
http://tinyurl.com/d4pbv

Posted by: YIKES! at November 18, 2008 12:16 AM (tyTuX)

60 I've baited the scammers (in chat) a TINY bit where I start asking them a bunch of questions, they ask why, I say so I can tell the FBI and they don't seem very concerned. They ask why would I want to do that?

I say the FBI passes the information to the U.S. Navy so they can target cruise missiles. The conversation ends.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 12:18 AM (hawOV)

61 Jones was. But a number of the inner circle were also red diaper babies.

This woman who teaches in SD has set up a whole website to humanize the people who died at Jonestown. But some of them weren't very human. Her two sisters who died there were some who abused their power and murdered. Any way, the prof is arguing that we should not use the word cult because how can we reach reconciliation and conflict resolution, blah blah blah. They refer to Philip Zambardo a psychologist who has written a number of books and compares Jim Jones to George Bush.

It's that nonsense goy was going on and on about: He wants to understand moonbats. I and others want to beat the crap out of them for redefining common words and being assholes and rewriting history.

Posted by: Perry Mason at November 18, 2008 12:21 AM (P1Evy)

62 I say the FBI passes the information to the U.S. Navy so they can target cruise missiles. The conversation ends.

I always wondered how to clean out a Lagos internet cafe in 10 seconds flat. I think you have the answer.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 18, 2008 12:25 AM (OqXyp)

63 Hubby will have no problem having her declared legally incompetent now.

Or...

She's faked the Nigerian scam and is about to abscond.

Posted by: Amanda at November 18, 2008 12:30 AM (WHzLu)

64 Ignore the CIA angle, but if you ever want to see just HOW fucked up Democrats are -- mainstream Democrats -- as if there was ever any doubt, the first 5 minutes of this video is eye opening.

That said, Congressman Ryan was a Democrat and largely a hero so I don't mean him. I mean other assholes who you'll recognize in the vid.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 12:31 AM (hawOV)

65 Of course, the Jonesians were commies. It's in the Kool-Aid. Just ask your average pasty girl Obama voter.

Posted by: Amanda at November 18, 2008 12:33 AM (WHzLu)

66 Amanda,

girl Obama voters are often hot... I think they are reason the term "fuck and dump" was invented.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 12:40 AM (hawOV)

>Of course, the Jonesians were commies

All right this shit has to stop. First you people took my 1st name- Barry- and pinned it on Obama. Now you're taking my last name!

Posted by: Jones at November 18, 2008 12:44 AM (KOkrW)

An Oregon woman

Enough said.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at November 18, 2008 12:44 AM (C2//T)

69 Christoph, you are delusional. I am in Cali. We have a higher percentage of hawtness here and the Obama voters, actual voters not the big mouths, are dogs. Oh! Fuck and dump. Okay. I should read all the way through before typing. Class dismissed.

Sorry, Jones! If it helps any, I think calling a guy Jones is sexy.

Posted by: Amanda at November 18, 2008 12:48 AM (WHzLu)

You've just gotta to to #59's URL:

http://tinyurl.com/d4pbv

then to "The Tale of the Painted Breast"

The photos are absolute gold.

Best not to have food or drink in Wing-Ding holes as you view them.

Posted by: Good DAY!!!! at November 18, 2008 12:49 AM (dBb94)

71 I bet the husband is glad that Oregon has the "death with indignity" law.

Posted by: USS Ben at November 18, 2008 12:56 AM (IvOxC)

An Oregon woman who is out $400,000 after falling for a well-known Internet scam says she wasn't a sucker or an easy mark.

There's a future for this woman in the Obama Administration. Hell, she might be our next President.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 18, 2008 12:59 AM (fnoZ9)

73 We have to bail out the victims of these greedy capitalists.

Posted by: Barney Franks at November 18, 2008 01:00 AM (IvOxC)

Wouldn't it be funny if she had to pay a sales tax on it?

What?

Posted by: Barney Franks at November 18, 2008 01:01 AM (IvOxC)

I wonder if she would have given money to Leon Sumbitches.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 18, 2008 01:02 AM (fnoZ9)

76 The father of Chelsea Clinton's bf (fiancee, husband yet?) fell for it too a few years ago and went to prison over it:

"Initially, Mezvinsky became the victim of "just about every different kind of African-based scam we've ever seen," federal prosecutor Bob Zauzmer told 20/20"

http://tinyurl.com/scpe9

Posted by: Brian at November 18, 2008 01:06 AM (THbsC)

Well, she did make over 140,000, I mean, um, 200,000, I mean ehhh, 250,000 dollars. This family is uhhh, rich, and they must, ummm, pay their fair share.

We are not going to um, er, ehhh, let these fat cats in Oregon get another tax subsidy, er, um, break.

Posted by: President Barack Obama at November 18, 2008 01:07 AM (IvOxC)

78 Only makes sense, over half of the voters fell for the Kenyan scam.

Posted by: David at November 18, 2008 01:40 AM (HAdov)

79 I'd bet I could get twice that amount if I could find the right Dr. Phil or Oprah fans.

The View? Pure bank, baby!

Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2008 01:41 AM (aaGD+)

80 What are the odds that hubby sends her out as an "easy" *wink wink* "sucker" *wink wink wink* to get some of that money back?

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at November 18, 2008 01:42 AM (RWmCt)

81 A possible neurological explanation:

here.

Posted by: SarahW at November 18, 2008 02:02 AM (7sl9X)

82 Aaannnddd . . . dumbass!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 18, 2008 02:03 AM (0M4O+)

@45 -

Heh, you can never see enough references to "ass fucking" in scholarly works.

Who can forget that the Manhattan Project was born when Einstein, Fermi, Oppenheimer, and Bohr all said that "the power of the atom will fuck Hirohito right in the ass." Or Watson and Crick saying that "this DNA shit will take all those non-believers and fuck 'em in the ass." Or Leonardo da Vinci saying that he was going to take all of his assistance and "fuck them in the ass".

Well, ok, that last one, maybe.....

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at November 18, 2008 02:04 AM (RWmCt)

84 dammit. every time Oregon gets national attention, it's for something stupid. Think we'd learn? Nope.
.

Posted by: Joe Doaks at November 18, 2008 02:05 AM (uEh6L)

85 Of course, Leonardo would have said "assistants," not "assistance," but then again, he hasn't been breathing wildfire smoke for three days.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at November 18, 2008 02:06 AM (RWmCt)

I just looked up her political donations. No donations that I could find, but I did learn that she is also a REVEREND and communicates to her hearing-impared husband by using sign language. Taking the trust thing just a little too far, Janella.

Posted by: In Exile at November 18, 2008 02:49 AM (B4tZx)

87 84: Hey, you guys had a really prolific serial killer not too long ago. That's crazy, not stupid.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at November 18, 2008 02:53 AM (RWmCt)

88 Don't feel bad, Oregonians. Washington state if full of retards too. Remember horse boy?

Posted by: USS Ben USN (Ret) at November 18, 2008 02:58 AM (q+0aw)

89 In the link @ 81, an interesting bit of science.
It purports to show that the aging brain responds as a young persons does to gain, but seem to lose the young persons' anxieties or emotional reactions to LOSS.

It may be one reason o'der people seem gullible. The responses that inform us of danger simply aren't working, while all the old giddyness about gain remains.

Posted by: SarahW at November 18, 2008 03:07 AM (7sl9X)

90 If someone can successfully toss out a name that may or may not be a relative (and may or may not even be a living person), why wouldn't you believe him?

I might be a moron.

But I'm not a stupid moron. Big difference, there.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at November 18, 2008 03:39 AM (cbBOa)

91 "See, there's probably a royal buttload of information about what happened and about this couple that we just don't know. That's the only way I can understand all the WTF questions that pop up out of this story like toadstools."

Reality show on the way already. Like the Osbournes, but stupider. They should get an agent. Now if we could find a name for it . . . .
Down and Out in Oregon
The Spears
2 1/2 Brain Cells
A Simple Life 2 (a lot simpler now)

Posted by: Ozwitch at November 18, 2008 04:36 AM (d11A3)

92 Spears in Nigerian means ROFLMAO.

The good folks at scamorama.com must be in mourning over this. They have taken it upon themselves to scam the scammers, usually with hilarious results, as a public service to those who would fall for this nonsense.

There are people who have lost a few thousand, licked their wounds and moved on much wiser and chastened for the experience. But $400,000???? This woman is an ass.

She's lucky she isn't dead. Some of these scammers' victims actually go over to N igeria, Ghana or wherever and pay with their quite literally with their lives.

Sad.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 18, 2008 06:14 AM (9Cooa)

93 You can't blame the marks who fall for these things. Some of them are so believable.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cZkCzELL2Aw&feature

Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at November 18, 2008 06:52 AM (DDz6z)

Documents implicated President Bush, did you catch that? Bush lied. Janella cried.

ROFLMAO!

I have often wondered if those Nigerian fellers ever encountered anyone stupid enough to fall for this tired, old scam. The logical side of my brain said that it would be a miracle if anyone did. Now, it's one thing to scam an old person who is clueless about this particular ruse (side note: scamming old people is about as low as a human can go), but to actually believe this woman fell for it & squandered her husband's money...man, oh, man.

Someone had a severe case of dumb ass.

Posted by: Twinks at November 18, 2008 07:39 AM (7QUxD)

95 I know an elderly gentleman who fell for this same type of thing, but it was couched in the 'you've won the European lottery!' wrapper.

After he wrote them back with questions, these people started calling him at home and emailing him. These bitches talked to him like he was their grandfather, patiently explaining how they needed money to get his winnings through 'customs' or some other unlikely shit, gently wheedling several thousand dollars out of him at a time.

Yes, they are evil; but they wouldn't be able to do any of this shit if people weren't greedy. He was greedy and that greed made him want to believe in the undeserved magical lucky windfall.

Posted by: lauraw at November 18, 2008 07:52 AM (DbybK)

An Obama voter if I ever heard of one. She’ll be repaid with unicorn farts and rainbows.

I however think this entire story is a fraud. It is not possible to take money from any major company retirement account without the principle’s permission. It is also impossible to place a mortgage on real property without your spouse’s signature.

This whole story sounds like one of those urban myths that come around to be debunked by Snopes.

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2008 08:36 AM (Qd7GC)

97 wealth redistribution

Posted by: torabora at November 18, 2008 08:39 AM (4wAcB)

98 Here is a vid of here doing an interview with the local newsies.

K

Posted by: Kestrel♠ at November 18, 2008 08:45 AM (ZasG8)

The retirement he was dreaming of — cruising and going around and seeing America — is pretty much gone for him right now

A life insurance policy, however, is currently being signed with him as beneficiary.

In 3 months this lady is gonna 'run off to Nigeria' to confront the spammers and never be seen again.

Posted by: Entropy at November 18, 2008 08:45 AM (m6c4H)

100 Anyway, Amanda, I was joking. I don't fuck liberals. Apparently... they'd think it acceptable to kill my child if one resulted. To say the least, I think differently.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 08:59 AM (hawOV)

101 I am Fluffy ... A Kitten's Guide to Nigerian Tuna Spam

Posted by: iamfelix at November 18, 2008 09:12 AM (+p8wd)

102 Bring back eugenics.

Posted by: Well Seasoned at November 18, 2008 09:20 AM (RBcm4)

103 I think to myself "Can there really be people that stupid out there?" then I remember, "Oh yeah, Scientology exists", so in fact, there's thousands of them

Posted by: Amos at November 18, 2008 09:23 AM (ckdWX)

104 She reminds me of the guy with no lips or eyelids being interviewed on the evening news telling us how we should never use gasoline to fire up the grill.

Uh, thanks? I think we were already hip to that. But thanks for the heads up... I guess.

Posted by: Dang at November 18, 2008 09:32 AM (XFyLb)

105 I think Oregon's assisted suicide law will swing into action soon. Janella doesn't know she's terminally ill yet. She's no sucker, she'll figure it out.

Posted by: MarkD at November 18, 2008 09:35 AM (MMy4A)

106 Again, I don't know how the wife could have transferred all that money without her husband's permission.

Heh, you can never see enough references to "ass fucking" in scholarly works. Posted by: Fa Cube Itches

Thanks. LOL

Posted by: Perry Mason at November 18, 2008 09:37 AM (P1Evy)

107 "I think to myself "Can there really be people that stupid out there?" then I remember, "Oh yeah, Scientology exists", so in fact, there's thousands of them"

And Christianity.

What was that Tower of Babel story again?

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 09:50 AM (hawOV)

108

I had a co-worker several years back who piddled around with raising cattle on the side. He had a section leased about 15 miles out of town and had 28 cows and a bull on it. He managed to get his ass fired and had to move on down the road, and where he ended up he couldn't lease any range, so he sold the cattle and put the money in his joint checking acct until he could arrange for some land and start a new herd. About a year later he signed a lease on a section outside of his new hometown and went down to the bank to get his money so he could go to the sale barn and it was gone. His wife had bought herself about $30,000 worth of clothing and home furnishings that year and he never even noticed. So he had the expense of a years lease of grass w/o the capital to put even a single head on it. I can't believe he told me the story. That's one I would've kept to myself.

His son ran for the Texas state legislature a couple of years ago and came within a cunthair of getting elected. I'm pretty sure he took after his mama when it came to money management.

As wickedpinto would say: True Fucking Story.

Posted by: pendejo grande at November 18, 2008 09:50 AM (Y65Rl)

109 My god....if that woman ever gets laid, I hope she's laying on her back, because she's a fuck up.

Posted by: Gen "Buck" Turgidson at November 18, 2008 09:54 AM (FoMbv)

110 I fucked with one of those guys on the Nigerian end for a couple of weeks, he then threatened to have me killed. I said bring it on dirt eater. The Nigerian crime lords have moved their shills who bait people to the tiny nation of Benin. Benin laws are more lax since the US has pressured Nigeria into cracking down on these scams.

Many have moved from the "lottery" or "oil revenue" schemes to less complex scams on sites like myspace and facebook, as well as personals sites in an attempt to sucker lonely people. Since the GNP of Benin is like $1500 a year USD, hitting someone for $500 is a very lucrative deal for them. A common red flag is from one who says they are in say Virginia, yet list Chicago as their hometown. The scam is to find a mark who lives in one of those two places and then request $500 for a plane ticket to come for a visit. Many people, men and women have been suckered by those schemes which one hears very little about in the news.

Posted by: Nyctalus Lasiopterus at November 18, 2008 09:56 AM (N+Ydc)

111 Darwin is not mocked

Posted by: toby928 at November 18, 2008 10:03 AM (PD1tk)

112 The worst part of this is that it will only encourage more annoying letters to be sent out by the Nigerians in an effort to hoodwink and bamboozle the mentally weak amongst us. Afterall, look what it accomplished for the Kenyans.

Posted by: Syd B. at November 18, 2008 10:05 AM (OZGlM)

113 "Yes, they are evil; but they wouldn't be able to do any of this shit if people weren't greedy. He was greedy and that greed made him want to believe in the undeserved magical lucky windfall.
Posted by: lauraw at November 18, 2008 07:52 AM (DbybK)"

Check out that link @ #81, LauraW. The aging brain keeps the excitement at getting a prize or reward or gain - but compared with younger brains, loses the normal negative reaction to potential loss. Without the gut anxieties we take for granted about losing money, decisions about risk
are off-kilter.

We take the natural skepticism for granted, and so impose "extra greedy" on the older who fall prey to scams. But it's less being abnormally greedy than abnormally unworried about loss.

We all rely on these little zombies in our brains - physical or emotional feelings that direct our decision making. Cut out a part of the usual decision making apparatus and bad decisions manifest.

Posted by: SarahW at November 18, 2008 10:06 AM (7sl9X)

114 Folks said that if Obama were elected, millions of Africans would have renewed hope for the future. And they were right!

Posted by: James at November 18, 2008 10:13 AM (CbJgv)

115

The only "slogan" T-shirt that I've kept from my teenage years reads:

"Too cool for school. Too stupid for real life"

Posted by: James at November 18, 2008 10:14 AM (CbJgv)

116 So what you're saying, SarahW, is this woman is impossibly stupid and, if it was possible, should be criminally charged with theft for raiding her husband's retirement account and she should spend at least 5 years in prison?

I agree.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 10:15 AM (hawOV)

117 Brought to mind a conversation I once had with some federal agents who had attended a conference on West African crime. Apparently the reason Nigeria is one of the very top providers of peacekeeping troops for UN missions (I think it was #2 as of a couple of years ago, right behind Uruguay) is so that scam artists in the guise of soldiers can go and work their magic in foreign countries where they are assigned.

Posted by: bluejade at November 18, 2008 10:31 AM (DjMXQ)

118 Christoph, her husband would have some protections if his wife forged his signature or dipped into accounts she had no legal right to touch. Reading between the lines, it seems she had legal access to some if not all of these assets.

However, you are quick to dismiss the role of brain deterioration in decision making. Perhaps you protest too much.

Posted by: SarahW at November 18, 2008 10:39 AM (7sl9X)

119 Heh. I work with a bunch of guys from Sweet Home. Wonder if anyone knows her?

Oh, and for those not familiar with the central Wilamette Valley, Sweet Home is regarded as somewhat, shall we say, low rent. I heard one woman ponder exactly when it would disappear into a giant ball of flaming meth, and that opinion is not exactly uncommon hearabouts. So to hear that she comes from Sweet Home of all places is regrettably less than surprising.

D'oh!

Posted by: Militant Bibliophile at November 18, 2008 10:39 AM (cXseo)

120

Only $400,000? Amatuers.

And by the way, not only is the Banking industry on the brink of collapse, but the Auto industry is as well. That $700 billion isn't going to be enough to avert catastrophe!! Act now or your grandchildren will be homeless cannibals!

Posted by: Congress at November 18, 2008 10:39 AM (oLULt)

121 Act now or your grandchildren will be homeless cannibals!

You say that like its a bad thing

Posted by: toby928 at November 18, 2008 10:41 AM (PD1tk)

122 And gathering from her picture, she's certainly a candidate for the science at #81

http://media.katu.com/images/janella_spears2.jpg

Posted by: SarahW at November 18, 2008 10:43 AM (7sl9X)

123

I watched the video from KATU news and I thought it was funny how they kept bringing up Bush and Mueller’s name on the letters this idiot got in the mail.

They will try to tie everything to Bush.

Posted by: Vic at November 18, 2008 10:55 AM (Qd7GC)

124 The original reporting ( from whence the picture came), included a short letter from the reporter that might be of interest -
http://www.katu.com/news/34292654.html

The women wasn't charged, but this line was interesting:

"Spears was never charged, and I have to go on the investigators’ judgment for that. For good measure, they’ve warned Spears that if she sends any more money to Nigeria, they will charge her with a crime. She admits it may be the only real deterrent for her, as fixing this became somewhat of an obsession."

This would seem to fit the science - too bad no one took the trouble to scare her to the point she would check her behaviour earlier. That might actually be an effective, if unkind method of dealing with elderly parents participating in scams.... raise the threat level early.

Posted by: SarahW at November 18, 2008 10:58 AM (7sl9X)

125 I feel aweful for that woman's husband. How did she blow through his retirement without him allowing it?

Posted by: t.ferg at November 18, 2008 11:19 AM (2YVh7)

126 So, SarahW, contrary to what you guessed earlier it looks like Spears could have been charged.

The legal test of insanity or incompetence to stand trial should have been applied here. Did she have the ability to know her actions were wrong especially after her family members begged her to stop sending her husband's money to scammer's in Nigeria?

I'm not a psychiatrist, but unless she could prove otherwise, what she did was wrong, it was immoral, and she should be in prison.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 11:36 AM (hawOV)

127 Christoph, I don't know, one way or the other if there was or is any basis for charging her with converting money or some other crime.

Insanity has nothing to do with what I talked about.

There is an interesting neurological explanation for the apparently increased vulnerability of the aging to scams. Not so much new greediness, but a decrease in the former level of worry about loss that informs decision making in the young. A blind spot in thinking that increases the chance of being fleeced, as getting money always looks good, and there is no corresponding appropriate signal to warn of danger.

So, in other words, it might be useful to scare the bejeesus out of your older loved ones instead of indulging their interest in 'contests" .

Posted by: SarahW at November 18, 2008 11:47 AM (7sl9X)

128 I tend to think something's gone off with you, Christoph. I wonder what it is.

Posted by: SarahW at November 18, 2008 11:47 AM (7sl9X)

129 SarahW, we don't accept a gazillion theories on people's brains as excusing them for their crimes. If we did, no one would go to jail for anything.

Obviously people's brains make the final call. The question is did she have the capacity to know right from wrong?

There's evidence to show male brains are more violent than female brains. As a male, I agree with this. It's true.

So what then? Men are no longer culpable for violent crimes, only women? This is madness.

The legal tests of insanity and incapacity are there for a reason.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 11:49 AM (hawOV)

130 "I tend to think something's gone off with you, Christoph. I wonder what it is."

$400k and her husband's healthy and financially secure retirement. This isn't a victimless crime. She stole from an elderly man.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 11:51 AM (hawOV)

131 For example, I haven't argued that anyone should be treated more leniently, this woman included, based on altered brain function, but you seem to be over-enthusiastically protesting that unmade argument.

You seem to be terribly interested in making sure that a natural deficit in reasoning is NOT taken into account.

Posted by: SarahW at November 18, 2008 11:54 AM (7sl9X)

132 "She admits it may be the only real deterrent for her, as fixing this became somewhat of an obsession."

So, basically, the fact that she KNOWS she's giving her husband's money to criminals isn't enough of a deterrent for her... the only deterrent that would work is knowledge she would be punished with prison.

Does it sound like she has a whacky brain? Certainly does. However, it sounds like the same type of compulsive criminal brain we rightly charge and convict of crimes each day. She -- like they -- knows it's wrong, and that it hurts an innocent victim, and does it anyway.

The legal system doesn't accept the, "I felt a compulsive need to rape/murder/steal," defense, nor should it in this case. The prosecutor exercised their discretion, possibly at the urging of the victim. I respect that.

However, if she crosses the line again, she should have the book thrown at her pour encourager les autres, as always.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 11:59 AM (hawOV)

133 I'm not the first person to call you hyper-rigid in your thinking, Christoph. You miss a lot of points.

Posted by: SarahW at November 18, 2008 11:59 AM (7sl9X)

134 However, you are quick to dismiss the role of brain deterioration in decision making.

Posted by: SarahW at November 18, 2008 10:39 AM (7sl9X)

Spears didn't appear to have much grey matter to begin with.....

Posted by: sfcmac at November 18, 2008 12:03 PM (sfqwI)

135 "You seem to be terribly interested in making sure that a natural deficit in reasoning is NOT taken into account."

That's an affirmative defense, SarahW.

I have said repeatedly if the defense can demonstrate it it should be taken into consideration. They would have to show this mental defect -- if any (all you've done is quote some generalized study; you haven't proven it in her case) rose to the level that she was incapacitated and/or unable to tell right from wrong.

Don't say I haven't said that. I've said it at least 3 times already.

However, the law doesn't accept routine compulsions as excusing someone for crime. To use a wholly different crime, I absolutely accept that rapists feel compelled. So do child molesters. Shoplifters. Joyriders. Streetfighters.

Many of these even have demonstratably different organic differences, like higher testestorone levels -- a predictor of violence, sexuality, and risk taking -- and even brain scarring from previous violent encounters.

They aren't excuses for crimes unless the perpetrator is incapacitated or unable to know right from wrong.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 12:05 PM (hawOV)

136 SarahW, you're launching an ad hominem attack after failing to carry your point.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 12:06 PM (hawOV)

137 #127 There is an interesting neurological explanation for the apparently increased vulnerability of the aging to scams. Not so much new greediness, but a decrease in the former level of worry about loss that informs decision making in the young.

Huh? Most older folks are much more miserly than younger folks. You should see my mom scrapping the last little bits of dog food out of the can with her shriveled little fingers! "So... (lick lick lick lick ) hungry... " It's really pathetic.

Posted by: Dang at November 18, 2008 12:06 PM (XFyLb)

138 I thought it intriguing that raising her fear level seemed to be the only effective deterrent to sending more money.

Hence the observation that threatening bad things to relatives who are making weird decisions about money and risk, might be unkind, but effective.

Like don't let anyone offer you spare driveway sealant, as the travelers have been breaking into people's houses and chopping them into cat food.

I don't know. My mother was parted from some of her money by her financial advisor, and I wonder if his promises (which brought himself lovely kickbacks) did not inspire the proper respect for risk they would have ten years earlier.

Posted by: SarahW at November 18, 2008 12:07 PM (7sl9X)

139 "I'm not the first person to call you hyper-rigid in your thinking, Christoph."

Sounds like you're saying I have one hell of a legal defense available to me, SarahW.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 12:08 PM (hawOV)

140 "I thought it intriguing that raising her fear level seemed to be the only effective deterrent to sending more money."

That's the only thing that dissuades a lot of criminals.

She's basically the equivalent of a gambler stealing money from another person to recoup her losses. Sad, undoubtedly, but still a crime.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 12:09 PM (hawOV)

141 Oh, my mother was incredibly miserly. But when she saw an opportunity for easy money, I think she was vulnerable.

Anecdotes don't mean much. There's a similar process that happens in stroke victims, but the odd thing is it really depends which side of the brain is injured. One side causes extra anxiety, worry, and fear about, say, a new deficit in function.
Injury on the other side of the brain may lead to complete not caring about it at all, or even denial that the injury has occurred at all.

Posted by: SarahW at November 18, 2008 12:10 PM (7sl9X)

142 Christoph, again with you anticipating such an argument. I never proposed any such thing.

Posted by: SarahW at November 18, 2008 12:11 PM (7sl9X)

143 SarahW: There is nothing funny about scamming people especially the elderly. And it happens all too frequently. My friend was visiting his 95 y/o mother when she got a phone call from the "bank" requesting all her account #s, etc. My friend immediately canceled all her accounts.

Same thing happened to another elderly woman in an assisted living situation. Got a call, gave all her info, the people even flew down from canada (ahem) to complete additional transactions, and the old lady no longer had the money to afford a place to live.

Posted by: Perry Mason at November 18, 2008 12:12 PM (P1Evy)

144 Your mother was a victim, SarahW, and I don't mean this as any attack on her.

I know a little bit about fraud on the elderly (I used to work in the telemarketing sector and while I did honest work for decent companies, I knew a few people -- by far the minority --who had previously worked for scammy Canadian telemarketing "lottery" companies defrauding American seniors). Those people were vultures who should have, and occasionally were, put in prison. Certainly I despised them.

However, being the victim of a financial crime doesn't give one the legal justification to start committing financial crimes yourself in an effort to recoup your losses. Unless you meet the legal tests I discussed above.

Now the prosecutor, probably with the consent of the victim who understandably loves his wife, has exercised their discretion and I'm okay with that. In the end, though, the prosecutor does not serve the victim (not primarily). S/he represents society at large, "the People", and society has an interest in punishing and deterring people from stealing money from their loved ones to recoup their financial errors.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 12:16 PM (hawOV)

145 Christoph, you are unintentionally hilarious at times. You are so uptight about things that might be seen as defending something you don't want defended, lest somebody GET AWAY with something, or have compassion extended their way, or the law be changed to adjust to brain deficits, or whatever fear you have about thwarted righteousness you can't imaging the situation used in a practical way to deal with a particularly vulnerable demographic.

If older people feel the same Woo Hoo about free money that the young do, but have reduced inhibitory feelings of fear, to the point of damaging unconcern about loss, why wouldn't they act on the pleasure of potential gain? How do they know better? How can you stop them doing that, if it's someone you care about and love?

I'm old enough to have seen one parent ( the other died at a young 62) go into a decline. It's so hard to know how to act. If you can forgive the change in character as something beyond their own control, perhaps it helps one deal with the practicalities in a more effective, resource-presserving way.

Posted by: SarahW at November 18, 2008 12:19 PM (7sl9X)

146 SarahW, you're being an idiot because of your general constitution, but also your personal experience and emotion around this.

If you'd read above, you'd see several commenters called jokingly for such things as "a bullet" or even that the husband divorce her.

I can see why he wouldn't.

But the prosecution's interest is different, it's to represent society. The fact you don't seem to get that with an appropriate weight is unfortunate. However, note she has already been threatened with criminal charges if she proceeds. Other people do.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 12:21 PM (hawOV)

147 SarahW, the elements you raise ARE POSSIBLY VALID defenses as I bring up. I've said so repeatedly even when you've disingenuously stated I haven't addressed those issues.

However, the criminal justice system doesn't take a look at one study on elderly people's thinking and use that as the basis for not charging. If she was charged, her defense could bring those issues up with expert testimony including an examination of her, BUT NOT IN THE AGGREGATE.

Your mom's mental state and your understandable feelings about same isn't a defense for Janelle Spears.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 12:25 PM (hawOV)

148

Nigerian scammer getting scammed. Mesa linked this on the hostages

http://tinyurl.com/5mlfdv

Posted by: pajama momma at November 18, 2008 12:26 PM (f3xJa)

149

Not that I approve of wife beating or anything, but if the husband issued a Five Fingered Veto upside her head I couldn't really blame him.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 18, 2008 12:33 PM (plsiE)

150

LOL

Posted by: espnjunkie at November 18, 2008 12:34 PM (ZFvnm)

151 I also think your sympathy is at least in part misplaced. She was warned by her family and only the threat of criminal sanction by her own admission is enough to get her to stop.

Meanwhile, do you know how much time, effort, and life energy goes into creating a $400,000 savings for the average person who isn't Donald Trump?

He earned a decent retirement and possibly even some travel and leisure, not to mention health and home support. And that is gone now that he needs it most as a result of Nigerian scammers and his wife's theft.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 12:37 PM (hawOV)

152 "Good Lord:"

Yes my son?

Posted by: Kevin at November 18, 2008 12:47 PM (KO6dP)

153 Haha. All kidding aside, Obama will fix this. He's the one!

Posted by: Kevin at November 18, 2008 12:49 PM (KO6dP)

154 "If older people feel the same Woo Hoo about free money that the young do, but have reduced inhibitory feelings of fear, to the point of damaging unconcern about loss, why wouldn't they act on the pleasure of potential gain?"

Anyone can act on the pleasure of compulsive gain. You wan't compulsion? Try gambling addiction.

I have a little bit of experience with this. I don't drink to speak of, jokes aside I manage to control my sexual appetites despite a girlfriend currently on another continent, I don't do drugs, and I even quit smoking after reading a great book on the subject.

But my own mother asked me to go to the casino with her the other day and I said no. That pissed her off because it's her thing.

Why did I say no?

I went to the casino 3 times in my life and each time I was totally out of control. Twice I lost everything I had, rent money and all, and once I gained before they closed and kicked me out. It triggered some sort of switch in my head not everyone has. Fear, excitement, desire for gain. Whatever.

That was a decade ago. I don't do that anymore. I've learned.

Some people have gambling problems way worse than I. Just work at a convenience store and watch desperate poor people spend their money on instant lose lottery tickets, buy more with their meagre "winnings", and walk out of 7-Eleven with no money after they get their welfare cheques. It's enough to break your heart.

I'm sure these people have self-control and compulsion issues.

That said, they cannot legally break into a car and steal a stereo or raid their grandma's purse. Both of these are crimes however sympathetic we may feel for the perpetrators.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 12:50 PM (hawOV)

155

Not all requests for money for Africa are a scam and I think this would be a good time to again appeal for donations to organizations like AIDBRO who help the many who are so very, very poor.

It costs as little as 67 cents per day to provide food and health care for our brothers in East Africa who live in small huts and on less than 5 dollars a month. Your donation to an organization like AIDBRO can help people like little Onyango fight the disease that is sweeping the continent. This is just such a small amount to us, to provide a head start and a chance for life for many.

So could you see your way to sending a small donation to AIDBRO today? I promise you that this will become the most rewarding experience of your life and with everlasting returns. We promise that a percentage of this fund will be used to directly aid Onyango, Obama's brother.

You may use this contribution as a deduction on your income taxes and as a mitigating factor at any future sentencing hearing for a conviction of firearms possession.

Posted by: Robert at November 18, 2008 12:58 PM (VotgB)

156 Robert, you bring up an excellent point.

There are decent people in every land in my experience. Some of the most wonderful I've ever known have come from Africa.

One of my favourites is a former nurse from Kenya who quit nursing in disgust because of the practice of abortion, and moved to Holland, of all places, a country I despise politically (because of their practice of infanticide, which appears to be coming to America in larger numbers; sigh) where she remains a shining light of moral decency.

There are even good native people from Holland, in my experience, but few.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 01:04 PM (hawOV)

157 Christoph,

Give me an hour or so to set up AIDBRO, and get a paypal account.

Then you can get all your friends and family to contribute too.

Thanks,

Posted by: Robert at November 18, 2008 01:11 PM (VotgB)

158 Seriously, Robert, no offense, but contributing to an anonymous first-name commenters' PayPal account that he's setting up as we speak for an African charity -- on this particular thread of all threads -- isn't part of my giving plan.

My resources are limited, but what giving I do, I do annually after researching an organization and its financials. Always its financials. My years in for-profit fundraising taught me this is important even when an organization's mission is top notch. Efficiency and openness matters.

Sometimes I'll give a bit spontaneously, but it's rare. I'm pretty much an Ayn Randian capitalist at heart. If I give to someone on the street, I usually offer to walk them over to a restaurant and have lunch. They decline 85% of the time. So much for hunger.

The organization you're describing sounds worthy and excellent.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 01:17 PM (hawOV)

159 Somehow I missed her age in the story. She's still working - how do we know she's old? She shouldn't be this stupid even in her 60s.

Posted by: cassandra at November 18, 2008 01:20 PM (GdalM)

160 "Give me an hour or so to set up AIDBRO..."

It looks like we could be witnessing the birth of the next Christian's Children Fund.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 01:36 PM (hawOV)

161 Hey, I'll be back in an hour. I'm setting up a charity where I promise "a percentage" of funds raised will go to worthy causes.

If anyone wants to contribute or steal their loved ones' money to contribute, wait until this evening and use PayPal to start sending your money to:

a-percentage-for-good@anonymous.ru

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 01:42 PM (hawOV)

162 Clearly Christoph needs to drink more, smoke more, and masturbate more frequently.

Posted by: Fritz at November 18, 2008 01:57 PM (aaGD+)

163

I just had to pipe up for this one. Every time I get one of those stupid Nigerian spam letters, I wonder: "Who, in this enlightened day and age, is still enough of a featherbrain to fall for this?" Then I see stories like this, and despair: the world's supply of dimwits is apparently unexhaustable.

Four hundred grand. Jeezus. It sounds like everyone knew what she was up to, though; how could she run through her hubby's retirement account without him knowing about it? And if he let her do it, he's as big an idiot as she is (more so, in fact, because the idiot who is led to ruin by another idiot is the bigger idiot of the two).

Good luck recouping that "investment".

Dumbass.

Posted by: Monty at November 18, 2008 02:01 PM (4Pleu)

164

I'm sorry but this part is the funniest part of the story.

An Oregon woman who is out $400,000 after falling for a well-known Internet scam says she wasn't a sucker or an easy mark.

Oh, yeah, that about made me fall out of my chair laughing too. Babe, if there were some international event that pitted legendary chumps against each other to determine once and for all who was the biggest chump on the planet, you'd be entering the semifinals and a Vegas odds-on favorite to take the championship.

You're not just a sucker, lady. You're what we used to call an all-day sucker.

Posted by: Monty at November 18, 2008 02:06 PM (4Pleu)

165

It is pretty funny watching the idiot Christoph rail against an argument he believes Sarahw has made that she didn't make.

I think the sad little retard is upset that he got in his standard insult at Christianity and no one took the bait.

Here's a clue Christoph, she never suggested that having your risk/reward scale fucked up due to old age should be a valid legal defense. That's a fantasy you conjured up in your mind to give you something to argue against.

Posted by: buzzion at November 18, 2008 02:07 PM (Lrsi6)

166 Does she also think Obama is Jesus returned to earth to usher in a 1,000 years of peace?

Posted by: Greg at November 18, 2008 02:18 PM (tt9Lo)

167 buzzion, you mentally incapacitated shithead syphilitic cum-guzzler:

I know that. That's why I said it can be offered as a defense if it gets to that stage (and, incidentally, it could be offered as a defense).

SarahW's position is worse: That one study of old people generally and her experience with her mom means Spears shouldn't be charged in the first place.

While even the authorities have threatened her with prosecution if she proceeds.

Posted by: Christoph at November 18, 2008 02:29 PM (hawOV)

168

Oh really? And just where does she say that?

The fantasy in your head is an elaborate one. Go spin your idiocy at some other blogs. Oops sorry you keep getting banned from them and then pissing and moaning here about it.

Posted by: buzzion at November 18, 2008 02:39 PM (Lrsi6)

169 When you go looking for a wife, you might look for something other than pretty and stupid... at least if you plan on having any assets beyond a double-wide.

Lesson learned here I think.

Posted by: Gekkobear at November 18, 2008 03:52 PM (td8rd)

170

I think I am going to consider this the reason why I have received no less than 6 "dear friend in Christ" emails in the past 3 days. Previously I got maybe, maybe one a month, that my span filter took care of. But these are going straight into my inbox.

Stupid is as Stupid does?

Hey, since whatsis nut said that Sara P was of low intelligence, I wonder if she sent any money to Nigeria? sarc/off

Posted by: TimothyJ at November 18, 2008 04:03 PM (IKKIf)

171 Christoph, you are a barrel of monkeys sometimes.

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172 I think I am going to call her and ask her to contribute to the Obama campaign, like I did.

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