1 HTML: Fail.

2

I believe it.  What better way to neuter the Hildabeast than put her in a corner and deny her access to real power.  All her ambassadors are Obama appointees that owe their position to the One.  All her deputies would be Obama appointees. 

 

I just don't believe the Hildabeast is so dull to accept such a position.

3 It does seem unlikely. I suspect she'd just end up as a fall guy for the unpopular foreign policy decisions Obama knows he'll have to decide in ways contrary to his fluffy campaign promises.

I'm sorta hoping it's true, though. I'd frankly rather have Hillary in that position than most other Democrats Obama is likely to name. Especially if she gets to play bad cop. 

4 Thomas Jackson

Yep. Plus she won't be able to oppose him from the Senate. She'd be neutered. 

Or spayed I guess

5
Maybe, just maybe the dog finally caught the car and is looking for The She-Bitch* to help him figure out what the hell to do now. Obama, more than anybody else, knows that he don't know shit. We can hope it's part of an actual attempt at governance anyway.

* I mean that in only the most respectful way.

6  Hillary is just another bit player in the horrible tragio-comedy that is American politics. We're screwed for the next four or more years whether she's involved or not.

/the liberals say: yes we can f*ck America completely!

7 It's a prestigious job but I don't think she'd take it. She might want to stick with the Obama/Epic Fail scenario.

8 I'm sorta hoping it's true, though. I'd frankly rather have Hillary in that position than most other Democrats Obama is likely to name. Especially if she gets to play bad cop.

Yeah but...but...but.

Oh jeez. What a choice. I think it's true though, that she won't want to have anything to do with a failed admin, and I don't think she wants to be subordinate to him after what he did.

Obama seems willing to sell out Israel for "peace." Is Hillary?

I don't think so.

9

I don’t believe it either. She would have to be a fool to take that position because it really has no power anymore like it did in the early days. She actually has more power in the Senate. I also don’t believe she will have a chance to run for president in 2012 either unless she goes independent.

 

Hell, if Jimmy Carter could not be challenged during his second run, nobody can be challenged from within the party.

10 Old: Hope and change.
New: Same old, same old.

11 I often got the impression that Condi was getting pretty close to the "sell out Israel" position, if not all the way there.  Something in the water at State, I presume.  If Condi was willing to get that close, it's hard to imagine Hillary holding out.

Qwinn

12 Obama, more than anybody else, knows that he don't know shit.

I think you were typing at same time I was. Yeah, yeah I agree. And he knows Hillary is smart and aggressive enough to handle what comes her way. He needs her, actually. But I think she wants to be able to oppose him more than she wants to be needed.

Just an aside: Isn't "she-bitch" a bit redundant?

13 Rudy for NY Senate!

14 let's not forget that the Hillmeister was pretty cozy with the palestineans so maybe she would be an appropiate fit on Obama's cabinet.

15

I thought Ted Kennedy challenged Jimmah in primary?

16 I can hear Hillary cack...errr, laughing at The One. Besides, I doubt she can afford the pay cut.

17

Sexism 101,

Saracuda, middle aged and hot = vital and strong.

Billary, frumpy and aging = marm.

Hillary doesn't have a second chance, she might take it, just to cement her legacy as a REAL female leader, rather than a coattail riding whore.

18

Hill will never give up her power base in New York Shittie. She's having too much pleasure assfucking the good residents of the empire state.

 

19 Obama fails Carter/Bush 43-bad, the Dems lose the Presidency anyway (that is, assuming NYT is Chapter 7 or Murdoch by then.)   Obama fails garden-variety bad, no one's going to knock him off for the nomination. 

The Golden Calf needed to lose <b>this time</b> for She-Clinton to have a shot at the Oval Ring.

20

I can see her taking it.  She likes the spotlight and she is not going to get it as the junior Senator from NY.  She has no committee chairmanships, healthcare is already being worked on.. what's she gonna do to shine?

Put that up against the most visible and arguably most important non-elected position in the gov't.  Plus, she gets her own plane and gets to do high tea with the beautiful people of the world.

 

21 Can ex presidents become the secretary of state in another administration.

22

If Hillary wants to be President - - which I think she still does -- she needs a failed Obama Administration.

Feh.  Sec State is fourth in line to the presidency.  3rd if you consider Byrd as president pro tempore of the Senate a non-factor.

If this goes down -- Obama better not ever be in the same place at the same time as Biden and Pelosi.

 

23

Hillary can only be an icon if she accepts this position, she can't beat obama in a primary (don't think it has ever happened where a dem challenger defeated an incumbent in the primaries, or a 'pub for that matter)  Hillary will be what?  73?  she will be john McCain in '16, and is completely worthless in '12.

She needs an accomplishment as a candidate, unlike ferraro (who isn't retarded, just like hillary who is not retarded) so she might take it, just so she has a real thing to point to when she talkes about the cracked ceiling, while doing pundit work at MSNBC (though I bet, she will go to fox after being chased out of her NY seat)

24 If anything ever goes wrong, Obama can blame Hillary and fire her ass. I would stick with the sure thing in the senate that also allows her to run for potus again. They may be offering it to her knowing she will refuse.

25

I thought Ted Kennedy challenged Jimmah in primary?

 

He tried to challenge him but was unsuccessful and there was no primary. The party did not want an inner party fight. At least that is the way I remember it from way back.

26 Didn't the obamanuts insist that Hillary present herself for vetting if she wanted a crack at VP and she refused? I wonder if they try the same crap again. Will they make her fill out the 7 page questionnaire? Surrender her diary?

27

...she might take it, just so she has a real thing to point to when she talkes about the cracked ceiling

Hillary: "I was the first oops second yikes third female no wait second white female to be secretary of state!"

28 Bill Clinton gets to meet exotic women in far away lands under the guise of following Madam Secretary on official business...hmmm....

29

This is troubling, but more importantly, has anybody else noticed how the jug eared bastard chews gum with his mouth open.  I've seen two video clips since yesterday where he's chomping away like Brittany Spears hopped up on a Starbucks double espresso. 

Watch that insipid bowling video from the primaries and tell me how you can keep from putting your foot through the monitor.

30 most people don't understand that secretary of state is really far more powerful and important than vice president

31

I shoulda said this is a very scary proposition.  Having a Clinton in any way once again involved in the foreign affairs of this country makes my ass itch.

Equally worrying is the rumor that Penny Pritzker is being considered for Commerce.  Penny fucking Pritzker.  Commerce.  Oy.

This is gonna be a long 4 years.

32 She won't do it.  She still wants to be president.  How many Secretaries of State have been successful presidents?  I believe the last one was Thomas Jefferson and he was a bit of a remarkable fellow.  She stands a better chance of running for prez in 2016* if she stays in the Senate.

* She won't run in 2012.  That will piss off everyone on the left.

33

Can ex presidents become the secretary of state in another administration.

I don't see why not. Taft became Supreme Court Justice after he was President. I could be wrong though.

34 Hillary will never go for it.  She wants to run in 2012.  The only way she could do it from within is to openly feud with Obama over foreign policy decisions.  That would be too obvious.  She has to subvert him from afar.  Also, her hawkish stance relative to The One gives her the opportunity to provide a contrast when his appeasement policy explodes.

35

Hit and Run:  Just my thought.  Now imagine the sick love triangle events (video-taped, of course), involving Obama, Biden, and Pelosi, that when aired on ABCNBCCBSCNNBBCNYTWAPOMSNBC would lead the entire country to collectively puke down the front of their shirts in disgust and demand the immediate impeachment and resignation of this unholy troika, leading to the inevitable Hillary Presidency (and of course, to Bill Clinton's pasty white ass bouncing up and down on 21 year old interns for another 4 to 8 years- blech!).  I'm quite sure that the video will include the following:

1.  One dog collar, spiked.

2.  One bottle of Afro-Sheen.

3.  A hamster (not a "Hamsher") of low breeding, shaved.

4.  One copy of the United States Constitution, laminated.

5.  A hookah.

Stranger things have happened.

36 She especially won't do it because Congress is a far better place from which to make war on Obama than in his own cabinet.  Expect a replay of their completely banal "mandates vs. single-payer" mini-drama from the primaries when it comes to health care.

37 I bet she takes it.

38 - but if Obama is successful, she can't run in 2012

How can she run in 2012 if Obama is the incumbent?  Doesn't he automatically get to run for a 2nd term?

39 I can't see her doing this, unless she has given up on the presidential dream. If she accepts this, then she will never run for the White House again. How do you think John Kerry feels today? I understand that he was practically begging Obama for the Secretary of State job and it was not a secret that he openly lusted after this job. If this is a real offer to Hillary and not just PR spin/smack from Obama, then you have to think that this scenario is a bitch slap to Kerry.   

40 hey, wasn't Kerry originally going to be offered that post? Hillary is a better choice but still...not so sure on whether she wouldn't sell Israel out.

41 Obama is just wanting  to cover his ass by her possible opposition in the future. Also, Poor Gov Richard screwed again for helping with hispanic vote......I wonder what he is thinking about now?

42

Hillary as SecState is a trial balloon to get the press all abuzz and generally keep the honeymoon stoked

 

Expect Obama to appoint someone who shares his terrorist friendly appeasement agenda

43 If I were HRC, I would steer clear of an Obama administration. 

44 Yea, Hillary would sell out Israel just as Billary did in his waning months as head bubba.

45 Doesn't he automatically get to run for a 2nd term?

Yes, it's all but automatic.

If she doesn't take a cabinet position, Hillary will be campaigning for Obama just like she did in '08. And I think Senator Pants-Suit knows she has a very slim chance to get in the White House in 2016.

46 Gee, I thought this guy was about change. What about that long form that The Clintons will have to fill out for an Obama job? Could he trust the HRC? I'm sick on the Clintons, are they ever going away?

47 Nobody puts Hildy in a corner.

48

Hillary is opportunistic. She'll take the job if, looking down the road, she can see it paying off in the presidency.

For example. Hill knows that Obama will sell out Israel. She joins the administration, and then at a crucial moment, resigns in protest. She'll tell Jewish voters that she took the job in order to be a voice of support for Israel, but found the president dead set against.

Or she can advocate strong anti-terror measures, which of course Obama will ignore. If something really bad happens, she resigns in protest and tells her version of the story while Obama is reeling. 

Assuming that she times it well - and the economy is still struggling - she can deliver a knockout punch. She may be better positioned for the layout uppercut as Secretary of State than as a NY Senator.

I doubt the Obama offer is in good faith. If she gives a tentative yes, he'll find a reason to withdraw it. Possibly something to do with Bill's unsavory associates.

It's just for show. 

 

49 The msm is having orgasms over this story.........

50 The more things "change", the more they stay the same. Obie's new faces for the new and fresh government is looking awfully familiar.

51 I guess Hillary would fit in just right over at the State Department? The poor employees, I bet they are nervous over there. She seems like she would be quite the bitch to work for. I mean after nice Condi. 

52

Time to pack it in folks. later.

53 PUMA's for Hilllary!!!

54 As Michael Corleone said, "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer."  Obviously the offer to Hillary is serious and if she accepts one less headache for Obama when he seeks renomination in 2012.

55 When did Sec of State become just another Cabinet Position?
With Albright? Powell was okay but he was no great shakes in my book.
Rice is good too but I wouldn't call her a mover and a shaker with weight.
Regardless of what you think of Hillary I think all would agree she no heavyweight.
Isn't State a heavyweight job?

56 This "change you can believe in" sure looks a lot like the old "make appontments based on political calculation as opposed to qualification".

57 All we know for sure is: Barack won't make the mistake of making her Attorney General.

58

Powel and Condi both started drinking the Pali Kool Aid not long after going to State. All those Arabists hard to resist.

59 This is why Barry wants Hillary to be Secretary of State.

With Russian tanks only 30 miles from Tbilisi on Aug. 12, Sarkozy told Putin that the world would not accept the overthrow of Georgia, Levitte said. "I am going to hang Saakashvili by the balls," Putin replied.

Sarkozy responded: "Hang him?" "Why not? The Americans hanged Saddam Hussein," Putin said.

Sarkozy replied, using the familiar "tu": "Yes but do you want to end up like (President) Bush?" Putin was briefly lost for words, then said: "Ah, you have scored a point there."

Barry would rather have Hillary hung by her balls instead.

60 I'm unsure which would be more entertaining, John-John Carry or Sir Edmund Hillary as Sexretary of State?  They're both pettifogging  liberal buffoons.

61 I think Bill made a deal to get her the offer in exchange for him keeping a low enough profile to not sink The One in the general election.

If she takes it depends on what she feels puts her in the best position for 2012.

62 If she takes it depends on what she feels puts her in the best position for 2012.

Hillary can't run against Obama in 2012 if she's part of his administration.  Taking the Sec of State job means her presidential aspirations are over.

63 What happened to change?

64 If Hillary takes the job, it will be because she has a plan to double-deal Obama.

Don't think for an instant that she's given up on running in 2012.

65 Just what is a successful versus a failed Obie administration. Is socialized medicine, more Stalinesque gun control, stronger unions, higher taxes, government control of our 401Ks, weaker military, and jihad terror successful rule? Is that it?  I'll take failure. 

66 Yeah, it's clear this all depends - if it's actually even on the table - on what her aspirations are 4 years from now. The blushing, rah-rah speech she gave at the DNC incline me to believe that she has her sights on Hillary '12. As SoS she'd be corraled into relative insignificance in an all-but-isolationist, post-Bush Obaministration.

Obama stole the nomination from her and they both know it, so he's not going to put her into a position where he needs to rely on her loyalty when it counts. It may be there ostensibly, as it was at the DNC, but it won't be there at some critical point that has a chance of taking him down. Anyone who's watched the Clinton Saga knows how this works. And everyone knows - especially O - that the Dem machine has set him up as ripe for being taken down if he steps out of line in the slightest.

As Senator, where she can keep doing what she's been doing and likely work more effectively to come back in '12.

Now of course all this depends on Hill's level of devotion to the creeping socialism she's been pushing for decades. If that devotion trumps her desire to be Prez - possibly first Female Prez - and she views Obama and the all-Dem Congress as a chance to sprint to the marxist-socialist end zone, well then she'll probably take SoS and the rest of us are well-and-truly fuck-ed.

67 Hillary would be giving up her ability to be one of the top people in the Senate.  She isn't about to give that up in order to serve Barack Obama.

68 Now of course all this depends on Hill's level of devotion to the creeping socialism she's been pushing for decades. If that devotion trumps her desire to be Prez -


You're joking, right? 

Otherwise, I agree, she'll remain as senator (maybe running for Leader) in order to keep her 2012 options open.  Obama is the guy who demonstrably stole the nomination from her so Hillary has no sentimental attachment for the success of his administration.

69

Actually, this is Rhaum Emanual all the way. It is a complete win-win for Obama. The world situation is very dicey right now and many foreign leaders think they can yank Obama's chain. If Hillary accepts and is miraculously successful, he can take a bow and say it was all his doing and steal her thunder. Another thing he could do is undermine her actions to temper her success. If as is more likely she fails, (as I think all but a most hardened diplomat probably would), her career has been compromised...he can fire her and replace her with someone else safe. Now she is no longer a Senator, can't be a governor and if his first term is rocky, there will be one less challenger for the Democrat primaries (2012). If she is wise and refuses this job, he can truthfully say to the HRC crowd that he offered her his most important cabinet position and she refused. Now he does not owe her (or any of her allies) anything and is off the hook. A solid win no matter how things work out...

 

70

What is Obama thinking?

What is Hillary thinking?

What am I thinking?

I'm thinking, if, either one of these Putzes were handed a fully loaded gun they they would first pull the trigger and then ask; "is this loaded or what?" .

71 If as is more likely she fails, (as I think all but a most hardened diplomat probably would), her career has been compromised...he can fire her and replace her with someone else safe.


A foreign policy failure, however defined, is not a failure of the Sec of State, who is merely the puppet, but a failure of the puppeteer, the president.  Also, once hired, Hillary can't be "fired."  That would create a firestorm in substantial quarters of the democrat party, and why would Obama "fire" her, anyway?  The reason for recruiting her into the Administration is to prevent her from challenging Obama in 2012.

72 Hillary would make a good Sec State. She's a tough smart devious person and she's very goal oriented. Frankly, I'd hate to see an idiot like Hagel in the slot, Kerry is a traitor, and Richardson is a moron. Hillary would be a good choice. Yeah, there's more to it than that.. We all know she is one face of a war in the D party and Obama is the other, and this would be an attempt to neuter her. But I don't think Hillary would be so easily screwed. A lot of State is loyal to Bill Clinton, and Colin Powell kept a lot of popularity after his issues with Bush. I think Hillary would be ok. She isn't going to be president in 2013, of course. That's silly. Obama will be the nominee for his party. It's as simple as that. They will not accept any failure as Obama's fault, no matter what.

73 She isn't going to be president in 2013, of course. That's silly. Obama will be the nominee for his party. It's as simple as that. They will not accept any failure as Obama's fault, no matter what.


I can think of some scenarios that might result in Obama being challenged from within the democrat party in 2012.

Ted Kennedy came within a couple of whiskers of winning the democrat nomination in 1980, an inconceivable eventuality viewed from the prism of 1977.

74 arbuthnot - the question is under what scenario could Obama be so vulnerable as to be knocked off for the nomination yet still leave the Dems a chance of retaining the office?

75 If you were around in 1980 you should remember Ted Kennedy running in the primaries against Carter. I forget the published reasons, and I don't care to know. I think the Dems realized that Carter didn't have a snowballs chance in Riyadh of winning, (neither did I) so I guess Kennedy said, "Why not." Kennedy gave a half-assed try anyway. I tried to help Teddy by voting for him in the primary. I can proudly state that I voted against Jimmy Carter for President three times. 

76 Arbuthnot, I don't always read previous comments before I make mine, and it shows.

77 arbuthnot - the question is under what scenario could Obama be so vulnerable as to be knocked off for the nomination yet still leave the Dems a chance of retaining the office?

Presumably Obama could only be seriously challenged if electoral defeat was seen by party stalwarts as inescapable otherwise.   When disaster is certain, there is no cost in throwing the dice.

Think Johnson in '68, Carter in '80, George H.W. Bush in '92.

78 @ 76, Pelayo

Your explanation was better than mine.

79 AP now reporting its between Clinton and Richardson

80 And could Obama afford the leaks that would certainly spring up should he claim that, say, Iran is no longer seeking nuclear weapons, when Hillary's classification level gives her access to intelligence saying the complete opposite?

Obama seems willing to sell out Israel for "peace." Is Hillary?

-

This is (allegedly) "f---ing Jew bastard!" Hillary Clinton we're talking about.

81 Well the names Christopher, Albright, Holbrook, Richardson and Kerry surfaced last week.  This couldn't be any worse than that.

82 > And could Obama afford the leaks that would certainly spring up should he claim that, say, Iran is no longer seeking nuclear weapons, when Hillary's classification level gives her access to intelligence saying the complete opposite?

Obama seems willing to sell out Israel for "peace."

I wonder if Obama isn't more likely to piss off the Palestinians than the Israelis. The Rahm appointment. If the argument against Hillary is that she'll leak to contradict Obama on Iranian intentions, wouldn't Rahm do the same?

83

Just another jerk around in a long list of jerk arounds. Now i am seeing the transition team may or my not be perminanat advisors once sworn in. Anyone else get the feeling he is appointing people, then seeing how the public reacts and THEN deciding whether he will keep them on or not after the transition?

I'd have had more confidence if Larry, Moe or Curly won the election

 

84 I'm thinking she may take it, and that Obama is looking to 12. If she takes it, she plays the loyal dem, then in 2012, Biden declines to run for re-election, Bambi names Hill as VP, she becomes first female VP. It would also take Palin's female appeal out of play. Just my opinion and thoughts.

85 Hold your friends close and your enemies closer?

The two want to play off each other for a period of time.

86 Obama cannot keep loading up on Clintonistas without some sort of night-of-the-long-knives type massacre. Else he'll never hold them in line, or keep Billy J. from showing up in every open doorway. What better way to get all the players he wants while permanently cutting them off from their former head. This is going to turn into the mother of all snubs, forcing the bit players to make a choice - stay in their new positions, thereby very publicly breaking from the Clintons, or walk away from Obama and cast their lot with Hillary (maybe) in 2012. Either that or Obambi really is totally fucking clueless.

87

I think she is a fool to take it. It's not a question of how good or bad it is. It's a question of will she sell the rest of her soul or not? You lay down with dogs, you wake up with fleas. Does she really think he is going to allow her a mind of her own? Of that HE will ever take the blame if even 1 thing goes worng or is less than "parting the red seas"?

Why anyone would get involved with this man knowing what she know is beyond me.She should have nothing to do with him but if she decides she will, then she deserves what she gets.

88 now the top of Drudge says that associates of Obama and Clinton say the conversation was general -- that no job offer was discussed. So maybe someone was yanking our chains all along.

89

I don't want any Clinton anywhere near any administration, ever. Not that I think she'll assassinate anybody, but I don't trust her or Bill one millimeter.  I haven't gained one inch of respect for her after the primaries except to admire her physical stamina and concede that her hair is looking good.  She just looks downright conservative next to Obama, and I think that's the source of many Republicans' new-found respect.  But to me, she's still a carpet-bagging socialist who wouldn't be anywhere without her woman-degrading husband.

Oh crap, I never thought of this:

Feh.  Sec State is fourth in line to the presidency.  3rd if you consider Byrd as president pro tempore of the Senate a non-factor.

If this goes down -- Obama better not ever be in the same place at the same time as Biden and Pelosi.

On the other hand:

New York Shitti

Thank you for my laugh o' the week.

90 jp #13: That was my first thought also!

91

How can she run in 2012 if Obama is the incumbent?  Doesn't he automatically get to run for a 2nd term?

In 1992, Pat Buchanan ran against then President Bush in the primaries. They still have to go through the process.

92 And could Obama afford the leaks that would certainly spring up should he claim that, say, Iran is no longer seeking nuclear weapons, when Hillary's classification level gives her access to intelligence saying the complete opposite?

Ace, there are a lot more people than the Secretary of State with access to that caveat of classified information.

93 If he does ask HRC, Judas will have a cow.  HRC should run far and furiously.

94 what's she gonna do to shine?

Simply not fucking up by the numbers will make her look pretty good in a couple of  years.  She needs to avoid becoming Powell'ized.

95 These internal Democrat power struggles would be much more entertaining if they weren't being conducted by the flippin' incoming Presidential administration. These guys seem to think that they are playing a game of "Civilization" or something......

96

The Emprorer really likes to put misinformation about anything and everything out there, then both deny and confirm it did or didn't happen. Hasn't even been 2 weeks and we've already seen countless "Obama team is discussing  X" and then " Obama team denies any discussion took place". It would be typical dangle the carrot if he would ever actually do more than have his flunkies flip flop about what took place......rinse, lather, repeat.

 Hillary, he thought Ted Baxter was a better VP choice than you-that speaks volumes. Tell him to blow SoS out his ass

97 His peeps just want to see Hillary's answers to those fucking questions on the Obama administration's entrace exam for suckers. Then they can really screw her next time she makes a move the Chicago mob don't like. She's nuts if she takes it. Plus, how much would it cost her and Slicky? They love money more than their kid. Whitewater? Cattle futures? They need to add a few more pages to list all the Clinton questionable dealings.

98
Hillary would be daft to take SoS job: talk about a poisoned chalice! What I really see her doing is building a coalition of supporters in the Senate, then shouldering aside the clueless Reid as majority leader. Then things would get really interesting.

99 As a New York resident I am so supporting Hillary as Sec of State.

Anyone know the rules? Does the Governor appoint and that person serve out her term or do we get a special election?

100 I firmly support the appointment of Hillary to the Secretary of State position. She will bring a level of competence, maturity and leadership to the Obama administration it desperately needs.

101 And I think we should all write our papers and tell them exactly that where Chocolate Ken can read it.

102 With Jesse Jackson lurking about looking to cut BO's nuts off, Washington D.C. doesn't look like it's gonna get any more congenial in the next 4 years.

103 Everyone involved in this kabuki knows that Hillary wouldn't accept the job.  The point is that Obama's minions can insinuate that he offered her the job but that she put politics over country--i.e. service to Him.

104

She WOULD take the job because in her mind, just as in the minds of the throngs of femipigs that worship her, she would be the "real" president. There is nothing in Hillary's background, and this is backed by her own first lady records, that qualifies her to be our chief diplomat. She would be nothing more than a mouth piece and spend her time strangling the state department. Richardson is a nobel peace prize winning NEGOTIATOR. For what possible reason could Obama have for this other than keeping her from doing real harm taking over from Ted Kennedy? Seriously, a SMART woman in her position would turn the secstate role down and campaign for Kennedy's role where she can try to rebuild herself and stroke all the woman ego as the "lioness of the senate" and derail Obama policies as much as she could, making a case for another run in 2012.Instead she's like a piggy fat kid at burger king screaming for a whopper when he should be getting a sensible cheeseburger or kid's meal. She can't see as secstate her power would be limited and if Obama  has a successful administration, as has been stated, she won't have a case for running against him in 2012. Actually, making  Hillary secstate is brilliant only in that she will not be able to do anything and it sends her quietly away.

HEY! Has anyone forgotten she owes the democrats $31 million and is supposed to be facing federal fraud trial?? Man, how can Hillary get these free passes that would destroy a man's career and still get to be considered a victim?

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