1 I feel shocked!

2 Oh. My. God.

Fox is headlining its front page with "Can Palin Name Herself to Senate?" for this story. Despite the fact that Palin already said she would not appoint herself to fill Stevens' shoes.

Fox has gone over the edge.

3 These are seemingly contradictory statements.  But both must be true: Brack Obama never lies, of course, and Bill Ayers has no reason to do so.

Clearly, Barack Obama wasn't as close to Bill Ayers as Michelle and the little girls were.  I'm sure their relationship is ... close.

I'm not implying anything, just taking the statements logically.

4 It's almost like Obama isn't as good a man as Patterico tells us he is.

I'm shocked.

Likewise, it's almost like the Ed Morrisseys of the conservative world are feeling intimidated by Obama's ascendancy and attacking those of us who see a threat in Ayers' accolyte, buddy, and a Marxist in his own right seizing and accreting power to himself.

5 Ace, probably a dumb question but do you think we'll ever hear more about the babysitting angle?

I know it's too little too late but there doesn't seem much reason to sit on it anymore.

6

Maybe Ayer's really, really liked Obama and thought they were great friends, but Obama just liked Ayers, not liked liked him. So really, they're both telling the truth as they see it.

That would explain it. 

7

You know someone in the other thread mentioned that their Obama supporting friends told them "we all have friends like Ayers, what's the big deal?" I thought I was the only one getting that line. It's nice to know it is the new narrative.

And you know what, I actually, to the best of my knowledge, don't have any friends or acquaintances who are unrepentant terrorists. No one that I know made and planted bombs in government buildings in the US. And, for more current history, no one that I know flushed $150 million in grants down the toilet pursuing a radical educational ideology. And, to give the she-devil her due, I know of not one person who thinks what Charles Manson did was cool and none of my friends have ever been charged with obstructing justice.

So, fuck you Bill Ayers. And fuck you to all my friends and acquaintances who think "it's no big deal." What he and his bitch of a wife did was a big deal, and the fact that candidate Obama repeatedly lied about his relationship with them should not be allowed to be whitewashed. But it will be. The MSM has the new narrative and all the Obama parrots are dutifully repeating it.

8 "Obama allow a woman who celebrated the Manson murders babysit his children?"

There is no way a man who would take his children to Reverend Wright's church "every week" to listen to racist anti-American hatred in sermons would have tolerated that.

9 It could be that they're each other's private butt pirate.

Those things are always kept on the down low, you know, don't want to embarrass any politicians making an historic bid for the No Longer White House.

Mr Earschrist is the bitch I'm sure.

10 JavaJoe, when there's clear evidence Obama lied to the American electorate and Democratic primary voters about his relationship with William Ayers, a vile domestic terrorist, why do you have to bring gay racist fantasies into it?

11 Guess Palin deserves an apology from those who ripped her for accusing BHO of "palling around with terrorists."

Yeah, I won't hold my breath.

12

Look, he's sort of a family friend, a distant friend, not close enough to be, hey, what he did was so long ago anyway.

The media asshole skept this shit tight so that they could have it hanging over Barry's head...or maybe they have a larger purpose for doing so, perhaps mainlining even further the belief that 60's era anti-war radicalism was really not a big deal, because what was Communism anyway but people sharing.

I put nothing past these warped fucks. I see what they teach those dunderhead students.

13 Wonder how high Ayers will set his speaker's fee when he hits the college lecture circuit. Not that he's going to spread the wealth around or anything.

14

sasha and malia may one day spill the beans if front of millions and say "hey, that's my babysitter, mr. ayers!" ...upon seeing a photo of him or in person...

15 You know someone in the other thread mentioned that their Obama supporting friends told them "we all have friends like Ayers, what's the big deal?" I thought I was the only one getting that line. It's nice to know it is the new narrative. Getting an Obamist off of the narrative is a difficult job indeed. Its almost like the DNC is beaming the talking points into their heads. BTW, next time you get that line, perhaps respond to the effect of, yeah one of my friends blew up a few abortion "clinics" in the 80s. So I understand what you are saying.

16 Chrissy find another leg to hump.

17 If you want creepy, Obama isn't even going to Toot's funeral.  What the hell is that all about?

18

I don't know why we're still concerned about Ayers. He's a terrorist. He is or was Obama's friend /mentor.

But it means nothing if the story couldn't stop his election. He's in! The Ayers story can do nothing for us now except raise blood pressure. Most O-Bots didn't care, even if they knew the whole story.

19 I don't think it's ever too late to know the truth. I think anyone at this site wants to know what has really been going on. No, it can't effect this election but we have long memories and we have the ability to reason.

I still want to know about Obama's college papers, more of his work at Annenberg, his time overseas and a lot of other details lost in this election. I am NOT a conspiracy theorist. But considering we just elected a man who is "a family freind" of someone who actively sought to kill policemen and who married a raving lunatic (read her comments about the Manson murders) I think we need to keep digging about this man. For whatever outcome, I don't know. But knowing the truth is an honorable thing.

20 Why is it that we all new this months ago but the CHICAGO fucking Tribune didn't?  Oh, right, I guess it's the same reason that the London Times had to break the story about Obama's aunt living in a slum just down the street from the Boston Globe.

21 Only morons will believe anything a Democrat, liberal, journalist or Hollywood celebrity says.  Each of these occupation titles is synonymous with "liar".

22 "But considering we just elected a man who is "a family freind" of someone who actively sought to kill policemen..."

The amazing thing is his organization actually BOMBED the PENTAGON. I mean for Christ's sakes. It wrote "Prairie Fire" too. Absolutely nuts, violent, psychopathic. And they were willing to kill decamillions of Americans if necessary.

No more than the Soviets of Communist Chinese, but not much less either. Of course -- that's where they got the idea.

And this man was a family friend of the Obama's, served on 2 boards with Obama one of which he hand picked Obama as CEO.

Amazing. America has free citizens, but the electorate is scary. Not just its President. It's citizenry.

23 *or

24

Some of Ayers friends assault a Lansing church service, here we go.

http://tinyurl.com/65stye

25 Obama better do what Ayers wants or....boom!

26 His organization didn't write Prairie Fire. Ayers wrote Prairie Fire.

27 The line I've heard is that's what you have to be around in Chicago politics so anyone would get criticized if they came from that scene. At other times that same person rips on Daley and Blogevich for the corruption.

Or, hey McCain knew Kissinger, Oliver North, Chiquita CEO and on and on. That one I responded to on my blog and the twit who was running with it had the wonderfully substantive response of - "Grasping at straws, yet again." For some reason I wasn't impressed.

28

I hate being reminded of shit, my dumb ass posted (in terms of the "good man" argument" and the "palin rocks" thing,) almost a week before, by the all knowing educated press. 

29 "His organization didn't write Prairie Fire. Ayers wrote Prairie Fire."

Nah, it was ghost-written by Obama.

30 mare I think we pretty much know the truth, or all of it we need to know for now. My point was, we missed our chance to stop him, and now he's gonna release the hounds and it'll be very difficult to remove him when the RAT machine gets cranked up.

31 Think about who Ayers is - he don't give a fuck. He's putting it right out there, a big middle finger in America's face. His boy is in now, so he's letting loose. The only way this becomes something is if the media challenge the king about this - if they press him on it, he's going to have to throw Bill under the bus and say he doesn't agree with this characterization. Then, Ayers might get all revolutionary on Obama and fuck him over. That's the fire you bitches need to spark. Push the media to challenge the king, then hope Ayers goes Ayers and bucks up against king O.

32 # 26 link - Bill Ayer's resume.

http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/books/


notice the last entry.

33 Yes, I know, SarahW, my point is he was a co-author not the sole author.

But he's a proud little fuck, isn't he?

34

RAT machine gets cranked up.

RAtM is how I found out about dohrn.  I forgot about ayers until last year.

Gotta gotta get it together man, like the motherfucking weathermen.

35 Name of that song, not so Ironicly, is called "Killing in the Name of."

36 "Then, Ayers might get all revolutionary on Obama and fuck him over."

Not gonna happen. Bernadine would kill him, then blow him, then stick a fork in him.

37 Full scale lib swarm, from the media to entertainment and now all three branches. I just don't see anyone in the right position making any moves yet that look like they'll be able to counter all that.

38 we missed our chance to stop him

Posted by: Wilhelm Klink

Gotta disagree here. The boneheads who voted for him knew about Ayers. It was out there and if they didn't know it was a willing ignorance. They didn't want to know the truth.

39 "Gotta disagree here. The boneheads who voted for him knew about Ayers. It was out there and if they didn't know it was a willing ignorance. They didn't want to know the truth."

Like my father. Basically evil, not stupid.

40 Okay, so where is the media idiot who's gonna demand DNA tests of the kids? Fair and balanced. Someone has to lose their mind and proclaim Ayres the baby daddy.

I nominate ole Shep for the job.

41 Bill Ayers = Bush DUI

It sucks, but that's the way it is. It's like what happened before the election never really happened.

On the other hand, campaign promises are fair game. Don't worry - by 2010 and 2012, "tax cuts for 95% of Americans" will be equal to "Read my lips - no new taxes". We'll roast him over that fucking promise.

42 Jim, you're far, far too optimistic.

Yes, if you hadn't elected a ruthless communist to the post in a country full of willing enablers. However, you did.

43

On the other hand, campaign promises are fair game. Don't worry - by 2010 and 2012, "tax cuts for 95% of Americans" will be equal to "Read my lips - no new taxes". We'll roast him over that fucking promise.

 

Like we did when Clinton sais he couldn't give us a tax cut, even though he 'never worked so hard on something' after only 3 weeks on the job.  Yep, we sure held his feet to the fire.

44

They didn't want to know the truth.

The Media gave them an out.  It's easy to disbelieve, something that is in itself unbelievable, no matter the facts, if those facts are never reported.

I underestimated the association, and I couldn't stand Obama, until the last like 3 weeks of the election, because noone bothered checking or reporting the facts that are apparently, RIGHT FUCKING THERE!

The Media created an environment of "you had to be there," making it seem false, when there is pleanty of information describing that you didn't have to be there, pleanty of other people were.  Like Khalidi, like the chick at the LA times who whiped her blog that paterico found, like Rezco, who's sentencing was delayed only weeks before the election, like Dohrn, who IS guilty of a crime, no matter the malfeasence of the government she admitted her guilt with her own words.

But shit like that?  who cares, we needed history made, and the media was dedicated to future history.  The unfortunate thing, is that the future, and the history that might play out, won't be about a black president if we don't slow this shit down, it will be a coup within the US against the constitution, and individual liberties.

Sorry, I hate when I get cassandra, but there are dots all over the fucking place, and none of the genius journalists have bothered to say that one dot looks like it connects to this one.

45

Travis we don't disagree. (#1

46 wtf....see number eighteen

47

Does anyone have access to Ayer's Sylabuses from the classes he has taught?

Or has anyone found how he has graded classwork?

Has any conservatives takne his classes to be an .... errrr .. agitator?

48

I'm taking an Masters Economics class, and my (democrat) teacher was talking about Obama's plan

I got a curve ball .... I asked if the Pentagon budget will be affected by the National Civilian Security Force than Obama proposed. She had no clue (expected). I mentioned that Rahm also proposed it too.

She asked if i had proof, i said yes. She wants me to bring it in next week .... Yippeee

Now i need to find the extended clip of the speech, although the 20 second one is great.

The teacher is an older ex-Hungarian, so she understands what communism was.

Are there any other good clips to mix in?

49 We got your brilliance the first time, Wilhelm.

50

wasn't talking to you asshole

51 Wilhelm Klink

It is just driving me crazy that this shit is sitting RIGHT FUCKING THERE  and they stare at you like the elephant in the living room isn't present.

52 I hear ya Travis I tried to spell it out to a guy one night and his eyes literally glazed over. It was creepy. Another friend of mine said  "..but Obama didn't actually bomb anybody himself, did he?" Wish I had that kind of power over people.

53

My own mother voted voted for the o this time. nothing I could say would change her mind. She was led by CNN, ETC. She told me to get off my "soapbox" when I tried to explain some of the issues. And how badly the MSM is in the tank for a communist New Deal.

I forgive my mother, she is 71 years into it.

But I will never forgive the MSM. For the constant lying.

 

54 I underestimated the association, and I couldn't stand Obama, until the last like 3 weeks of the election, because noone bothered checking or reporting the facts that are apparently, RIGHT FUCKING THERE!

WP, there were plenty of bloggers, (me included) who were connecting the dots. Once I started looking at him closely last winter, I was on his case practically every single day until election day, about his radical associations, and past. I may be just one small, insignificant blog, but I was one of many, and our stories rarely made it out of the right-wing blogosphere. Once the primaries were over, the MSM chose not to pick up on any of it.

55

Travis,

I'm not that egocentric, but was that "RIGHT FUCKING THERE" thing a reference to me?  If so, thanks.

on point, this is the shit a bunch of retards could piece together from the lies, from the published record from HIS OWN FUCKING BOOK! but the media never bothered?

Noone in the media flinched, at all, not one bit, when he called his own grandmother a "typical white woman?"  Noone?

There was no there there? there was nothing to look at? there were no underlying issues that we might find out about?

Apparently not, a phone call to the campaign cleared it all up.

I'm white, what would happen if I was raised by a mixed race woman, and I said "she's a typical mulattoe trying to make nice."

What would have happened?

56

I know deb, You were solid on wright from day one, and you picked up on the khalidi shit if I remember, but I didn't really buy the proximatey of ayers until, well, actually, it was at about the time of the convention, so 2 months before the election.

I caught on to who ayers was, and all that stuff, but I thought the connection tenuous.

BTW!  How the fuck a hostage have top WP placement a few months ago?  HOW!

57 Ace, probably a dumb question but do you think we'll ever hear more about the babysitting angle?

I know it's too little too late but there doesn't seem much reason to sit on it anymore.

No.  The guy was scared as it was.  Now Obama is president and his story can't help stop him from being elected, and Obama has more power.

He wasn't really scared for himself.  More for his family.

There's a chance that Bill Ayers will let it slip, however.  He seems to be eager to embrace his new prominence.

58

Ayers is a farce.

Bernadine (who in her younger day's looks like a brunette version of my nurse/stripper girlfriend) IS INSANE!

JUST INSANE!

59 Every fucking person in this country knew that this was really true.

It just affirms what a country of dumb-fuckers we co-exist with. Very disheartening. No more or less so than on November 4th.

60

Nutmegory,

Voting isn't a right, it's a responsibility, that requires what the fuck you know what you are voting for.

I believe one of the founding fathers predicted the fall of the republic, based on an ignorant voting public.

I might be wrong, but I remember something like that.

61 "No.  The guy was scared as it was.  Now Obama is president and his story can't help stop him from being elected, and Obama has more power.

"He wasn't really scared for himself.  More for his family."

A sad state of affairs, but understandable, considering.

62 33 - Christoph, I just meant to put it in with the first post is all. it was not meant as a correction to your joke.

63 That's fine, SarahW. I just had to double check what you said because my memory was that it was written by the Weather Underground generally with Ayers as one of the authors. I'm not even convinced he's a bigger influence on that thing than Dohrn. Both sick puppies. Both Barack Obama's friends.

64 Asshole Ayers, the Non-Bomber, is going to have his cock sucked be interviewed on Good Morning, America on Friday morning.

65 He said they were family friends. That to me is an admission that he baby sat their kids. Ayers kids are adults. So, it's not like they had play dates. If any reporter had the balls, they would ask Obama's kids directly.

66

Cristoph,

As much as I detest the let's be civil bullshit facade you were throwing up earlier, I went thrgouh Wiki like 2 moths ago and posted all that shit up here and at MM's place, even e-amiling her about it.  Dohrn is the real link; she and Michelle were partners at a the law firm Barry O interned at.  Coincedentally the law firm that Annenberg tapped for advice for the whole Annenberg Challenge.

Even wikipdeia lays it out for anyone who wants to look.

That being said, I hope the O! Nation remeber that we're not gang-bangers.  His most faithful opposition knows how to lay interlocking fields of fire and how to call in CAS.

67 WP,

You are right. In my frustration I probably leapt to the insane conclusion that people are more informed than they are.

Still there are many, and I know some of them (comfortable Northeastern suburban make-believe marxists), who knew the Ayers truth and voted for Obama anyway.

68 Nutmegory, you're so right.  I tried to tell people, but they didn't care.  Would show them links to documents and pictures that put the two together time after time, and they'd just tell me it didn't matter.  Really frustrating.

69 At least the paper managed to hold off until the last sentence of the 3rd graf before admitting that Obama might have lied a little.  If they could have held out until the 4th graf, most people would never read that far.

70 Hmmmm.

Well I'm sure Obama & Ayers will be close friends for the next three years.  Then when the 2012 election cycle comes up it'll be:

What?  Who?  He was just a guy in my neighborhood.

71

Too many people either were too lazy to delve into Obamas past or simply did not care. They believed the MSM lies- 52 percent anyway.

Now we are stuck with a historical model ( Democrat President and Congress) that leads to utter disaster.

The old saying that for evil to succeed all it takes is for good men to do nothing.

 

72 #2

Fox News has one foot in the ratings grave and the other on a banana peel.

73

Every fucking person in this country knew that this was really true.

Not so. People looked many of us right in the faced and while their eyes were gazing over thought, "Oh, you're one of those right wing nuts."

The field has been prepped for this with at least a decade of " GOP- the party of dirty tricks".  Calling any charge, true or not, "mudslinging" and turning succesful tactics (Willie Horton, SwitBoats) into synonyms for dirty politics. Face it, people were predisposed to believe that whatever was said about Obama was a lie.

74

#64-Yeah he was.  I didn't watch it but just heard on the radio (and it's all over GMA's website) that he wasn't all that closely associated with Obama and was just another guy in the neighborhood.  Anyone think the O machine got to him and made him change his story after the afterword to the new book came out? 

He sure is delusional too.  Said bombings weren't terrorism.  Sure, and I'm the Pope.  I think ABC is just giving the appearance of doing its job (headline says "Chris Cuomo grills Ayers") so that they can bury this guy again and not have to talk about it any more.  It makes me so angry they didn't do this during the election.  (not that I'm surprised) 

75 Of course he's delusional. He's in the School of Education, for god's sake.

Those people are ALL loons...

76

Another odd juxtaposition of characters in the Obama soap opera.

William Ayres & Colin Powell

77 When Ayers was confronted with the books foreword dedication to Sirhan Sirhan he dismissed it with the importance of a booger.

This man is a monster...his wife is worse, and they are both family friends of The One.

There are going to be some rough seas ahead, ladies and gentlemen.

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