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| President-Elect Hope 'n Change...ClasslessShocking I know but it appears an empty suited product of the Chicago machine doesn't have much respect for the traditions of our country. The White House is annoyed that the Obama camp leaked details of yesterday's courtesy call between President Bush and Obama. The Obama camp says, hey, it's just business.What the White House appears to be angry about: notions, in the press, that President Bush suggested that assistance to the auto industry would be contingent upon Congressional reconsideration of the Columbian trade agreement. Not so, says the White House. They're accusing the Obama transition team of leaking a one-sided account of the meeting. Publicly, the Obama campaign is mum. Well, surprise. The Obama team has a communications strategy. And surprise: it's favorable to Obama and not favorable to President Bush. And surprise: the Obama economic team considers the perilous state of the auto industry to be the most pressing issue right now. And surprise: passing the trade agreement is something Bush really wants to get done before the end of his term -- he spoke about it during his radio address on Saturday. ("What we did was hardly hardball," an Obama aide says)Look, I know at this level politics isn't beanbag but there are some niceties that need to be observed on occasion. One of the most amazing things about this country is the absolute ordinariness of the transfer of power between administrations. That doesn't happen simply because the laws say they should but because as a nation it is one of the most (if not the most) cherished value we hold. A friendly or even orderly transfer of power isn't necessary (see Truman to Eisenhower for one example) but honoring the symbolism and appearances gives life to the values we hold dear. Hopefully, President-Elect Obama and his team will learn that now that they aren't campaigning for the job anymore, they need to grow up and realize not ever occasion is appropriate time to further their communications strategy. And for anyone who wants to excuse this breach of etiquette as simply 'everyone does it' consider one person who doesn't do it...President George W. Bush. For 8 years he has come under all kinds of personal attacks and not just from loony Code Pink types but from supposed adults like the Senate Majority Leader and the Speaker of the House of Representatives. Did he ever return the insults in kind? Not that I've seen. So no, not everyone plays fast and loose with the conventions of a democracy simply to further their personal goals. Bush wanted to be "a uniter, not a divider" and to "change the tone" of the capitol. He managed the latter simply but cutting out the childish squawking we heard from one end of Pennsylvania Avenue during his predecessor's administration. Looks like those days are done. BTW- I guess this means my personal honeymoon with Team Bary is over....no foreplay and not even remotely 16.2 minutes of lovin'. Comments1
Once again, the children are in charge.
Posted by: Earl at November 11, 2008 02:27 PM (mIwX4) 2
What? Conversations in the Oval Office are private? Posted by: Richard Nixon at November 11, 2008 02:28 PM (TNuqz) 3
Team Obama has worked long and hard to achieve this level of first-class douchebaggery. They've turned it into an art.
Posted by: Xander Crews at November 11, 2008 02:30 PM (sQRWX) 4
I have learned that there is no "class" in politicians, no matter what stripes they wear. That being said, pointing out that Obama and his team is "classless" is certainly right on the mark. In four years, mark it down, he will be griping a different tune.
Posted by: dfbaskwill at November 11, 2008 02:32 PM (4L5Tl) 5
We are so in for a long, long 4 years, possibly 8.
Posted by: Sue at November 11, 2008 02:32 PM (Jol77) 6
Just another example of Obama flipping the bird. Classless.
Posted by: DCA at November 11, 2008 02:32 PM (80uXY) 7
First rule of getting shit done, make it possible to get your way without the other guy looking bad. Reagan had a higher standard, you can accomplish anything if you don't care who gets the credit. Nobody expects that standard from Obama. But trying to not look like a graceless tool would be a good start. Posted by: Ronsonic at November 11, 2008 02:33 PM (ywSvi) 8
The Vapid One® said the other day that we only have one president at a time. He must have been referring to himself.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 11, 2008 02:34 PM (ZGhSv) 9
Obama's supporters think this is great. In fact, they want Bush to go ahead and leave and let Obama get on with "ruling" the country.
Posted by: Sue at November 11, 2008 02:34 PM (Jol77) 10
Keepin' it classy, Obamacornhole.
Posted by: grids7 at November 11, 2008 02:36 PM (btnFz) 11
Any moron knows that you never screw with the cook who's preparing your meal. Enjoy your shit sandwich Mr. President-elect.
Posted by: roy at November 11, 2008 02:37 PM (cB77O) 12
Wow…the AP already concluded of the same meeting: "Bush Shows Grace During Transition"*
So, what's the opposite of "grace"?
* MSM always discovers newfound respect for Republicans when they're going away.
Posted by: CJ at November 11, 2008 02:38 PM (JQtNT) 13
Uhh what about Bush? Did he expect Obama (and the other Dems) to obey niceties after they have: 1) Disparaged the troops in time of war (Petraeus) 2) Compared Bush to Hitler (and our troops to the Gestapo (Dickie Durbin)) 3) Lied about the economy (and Fannie Mae and Freedie Mac) to win cheap political points These people are thugs. It speaks more to the elitism of Bush (and other Republicans (his father). Bush respects power (Ted Kennedy - No Child and Shamensty), and expects other leaders to show the same respect. What he doesn't realize (and other moderate republicans) that we are dealing with thugs (Minnesota Senate contest anyone?). Gear-up folks. It is time to starting fighting back. Posted by: scoob at November 11, 2008 02:38 PM (sUe66) Posted by: Ronster at November 11, 2008 02:38 PM (iqxYY) 15
A friendly President Bush facilitating the transistion does not fit the Bushitler meme Urkel's followers hold as gospel. They'll keep poking until they get poked back, and then scream 'Fascism!' It's what they do.
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at November 11, 2008 02:38 PM (ERJIu) 16
Meh. It's just Clinton stuff again. I feel sorry for Bush getting this treatment at both ends of his administration, but it's not like he shouldn't be expecting it.
Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at November 11, 2008 02:38 PM (ltwze) 17
Clueless fucks--the "One True Possum" gang is going to be entertaining to watch. Posted by: Michael J. Myers at November 11, 2008 02:39 PM (LZ3cP) 18
I'm going to savor the schadenfreude when world leaders, who are SO in love with now, deal with Obama and find him to be an arrogant asshole.
I wouldn't be surprised if he runs the next 4 ( Posted by: wherestherum at November 11, 2008 02:39 PM (wET2y) 19
ok that smiley is supposed to be an 8
Posted by: wherestherum at November 11, 2008 02:40 PM (wET2y) 20
G*d, I hate this man.
Posted by: Twinks at November 11, 2008 02:40 PM (7QUxD) 21
Limbaugh played clips from about 20 talking heads/pols all calling Bush "gracious." The MSM really do get told what to say.
Posted by: 48 Percenter at November 11, 2008 02:42 PM (VbppZ) 22
Well it used to be "tradition" for an ex-president to not publicly slam a sitting president. See, "tradition" is not "progressive" enough.
Posted by: SalvucciFumbles at November 11, 2008 02:44 PM (93ZN1) 23
What a childish, immature, a-hole. I cannot believe we have to sit through four years of this nonsense.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 11, 2008 02:44 PM (IJYV3) 24
I hope W remembers to remove all the Os from the White House computers on the way out. It's only what Zero deserves.
Posted by: lmg at November 11, 2008 02:45 PM (A/vgC) 25
The way I see it, he doesn't have time to screw everything up too much. He's got to start his re-election campaign in about 142 days.
Posted by: FreakyBoy at November 11, 2008 02:45 PM (4s1it) 26
Let's not forget that Bush is now getting it on both ends: when Clinton left office his minions trashed the place, going so far as to pry all the 'w' keys off the computers in the Old Executive Office Building.
Posted by: Middlebrow at November 11, 2008 02:46 PM (S38PZ) 27
Could you imagine the uproar if Bush's people treated Obama like the Clintonites treated GWB? Posted by: 3rd_Bird at November 11, 2008 02:47 PM (EgSHa) 28
Nothing is beyond Obama and his goons . . . how long is it going to take people to learn this?
Posted by: rplat at November 11, 2008 02:49 PM (Qrnps) 29
I wonder why they didn't leak the conversation Obama had with Bush about getting rid of the White House bowling alley before Obama moves in in exchange for not rescinding Bush's executive order on offshore drilling. I guess nightmares about rolling a 37 is a national security issue.
Posted by: polynikes at November 11, 2008 02:50 PM (m2CN7) 30
He's just following Peggy Noonan's advice: "And because he replaces a president whose unpopularity has impeded his ability to govern, he is, in a way, president from day one." Let us continue to chant along with the sister so that we may Keep The Beginner's Mind: What a thing this is going to be to see. What luck to observe it Posted by: EirenicRebel at November 11, 2008 02:51 PM (n3G/k) 31
This has been going on for a long time now. By all means, I love class and honor, but Bush has a Party to lead and to fight for besides himself and at some point, while taking the hits over the past eight years, I really wish he would have hit back more.
Posted by: AD at November 11, 2008 02:51 PM (dW9kw) 32
About what you would expect from a low life thug and the party of "Bushchimpiehitler." As hard as it is to believe, this guy will make the Clinton stuff look like amateur night.
Posted by: Wolverine at November 11, 2008 02:53 PM (/Zcox) 33
Bush's transition into the oval office was preceeded by his father's transition. GW had a preview of this events etiquette. GW benefitted from a life full of such lessons, having grown up in a family that remained in tact throughout it's political ascendance.
Obama, on the other hand, has no such tact or experience to rely on. His father abandoned him before his first birthday. His own mother abandoned him for her career in his adolesence. There are no photos of Obama celebrating his political achievements with extended family at elections or swearing in ceremonies. So, of course, it is too much to expect this 'gifted orator' to behave appropriately given the moral vaccuum of his upbringing. Posted by: whuptdue at November 11, 2008 02:53 PM (TLRxU) Posted by: Joe Biden has a higher IQ than you at November 11, 2008 02:53 PM (GzZVw) 35
A middle finger to the lip is my new salute to the One and his minions.
"He seems like a nice guy." Middle finger to the lip. "The people have spoken." Middle finger to the lip. "We'll see where this new policy leads." Middle finger to the lip. Posted by: jamrat at November 11, 2008 02:53 PM (DnIO9) 36
These people are thugs. It speaks more to the elitism of Bush (and other Republicans (his father). Bush respects power (Ted Kennedy - No Child and Shamensty), and expects other leaders to show the same respect. Crap like this is proof to me that we will never defeat the other side. Bullet meet foot. Posted by: polynikes at November 11, 2008 02:54 PM (m2CN7) 37
Bush, McCain and the Republican party are the Napoleonic equivalent to the ineffective Austrian and Prussian generals who fought using dreadfully antiquated strategies while Napoleon had evolved. They valued honor, rules of decent engagement, graciousness with the enemy and other idyllic virtues while the enemy was ruthless.
You'd think McCain, a product of the Viet Nam engagement, would have realized what happens in asymmetric warfare when one side is incapable of flexibility and adaptability to the enemy's strategy. Massive vote fraud by ACORN? Unprecedented fund-raising fraud? Outright Marxist objectives? All the right can do is cry foul and seek the intervention of an official. Folks, the officials are long gone. This is outright war, not country club debates. The sooner the right recognizes this is war, this is for the entire game, and there are no limits, the better. Napoleon was beat and Obama should be by the same measures (e.g. he tends to outrun his logistics, as an example). His people are little more than thugs and street agitators and can be smashed down if deprived of a national domestic Army infrastructure. We must NOT let it get that far. Since we can expect the McCains and Bushes will either pretend this isn't the war it is, or worse yet, buy some personal protection by selling out to these thugs (at our expense), we have to clean house now and deal with the mess. If the Republican party won't be cleaned, then we need to waste no further time and move on to a framework which will have traction. Resistance to Obama needs to be firmed up before he takes office, as you can expect lightning fast moves in his first weeks. Posted by: HatlessHessian at November 11, 2008 02:58 PM (kjqFg) 38
Look, I know at this level politics isn't beanbag but there are some niceties that need to be observed on occasion.
This is the kind of Republican shit that just drives me nuts. This is war, asshat. Bush never realized that our internal enemies were as dangerous as our external enemies. Democrats lives and breathe this shit--because it works. All of which means that special prosecutor investigating Rezko, Acorn, and Obama campaign financing is out the door. Hope Bush likes it when the show trials of the Bush administration are underway. Posted by: iconoclast at November 11, 2008 02:58 PM (ex0JG) 39
I think Pres. Bush went too far in being nice. Starting with claiming the Clinton folks didn't remove W keys etc. Being nice and polite with people who are willing to break the rules to win doesn't make them respect you. Posted by: MamaAJ at November 11, 2008 03:00 PM (X6Zdh) 40
How is he going to BRAND MANAGE a presidency? His campaign was all about creating perceptions and making emotional connections with people. There are competing perceptions that he'll have to maintain that will collide with one another. And the emotional fuel he used was hatred....not hope. His most rabid cultists we're driven by hatred and arrogance. As a Hillary supporter, I was onto this fake unity sh*t from the start.
He is a nasty thug. The deception of glossing it all over with "higher purpose" and the phony drum circle love is disgusting. Look, I'm one of those freaks that used to hate on bush 24/7. I've seen the error of my ways and am ashamed that I so eagerly wanted to demonize all republicans. I'm trying not to do it with the thug elect but it's hard when I've done my own research and watched his primary and general election tactics . I have a fuller picture of this guy and he's a snake. I don't see how he's going to actually lead. I know you guys call him a marxist but I don't think he has any particular ideology except Obamaism. The fact that none of us really know what he's going to do is very telling. Honestly, the Obama freaks that surround me in san francisco scare me like the evangelical conservatives that trusted everything president Bush did solely because he was a christian. Posted by: sarah at November 11, 2008 03:01 PM (nscM+) 41
Posted by: iconoclast at November 11, 2008 02:58 PM (ex0JG)
Keeping a private conversation private is a bridge too far for you? Really? You do know that Bush isn't running for anything ever again, right? This was a purely ceremonial function. If you think that's the right time for an outgoing President to trash talk the incoming one or vice-versa than you either need to grow up or go join the perpetually pissed off nutroots. Posted by: DrewM. at November 11, 2008 03:03 PM (hlYel) 42
Good. Bush can now stop letting Obama know anything - and let The One fall flat on his face with a basket full of surprises on 1/20/09.
Posted by: markytom at November 11, 2008 03:03 PM (+DouR) 43
Kids stuff. Numpity Obama is going to be a million times worse than Carter. Carter wasn't motivated by hatred for his country. Anyone who thinks this guy is going to govern from the middle is nuts. He is a true believer, steeped in Marxism and he has no real opposition in congress. He'll push the most far left agenda we've ever seen and don't think for a moment he'll feel constrained by an old document written by dead white slave owners. I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks his move into the White House is a permanent one. The Hugo Chavez of Chicago. Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at November 11, 2008 03:09 PM (6BgmB) 44
How is he going to BRAND MANAGE a presidency? His campaign was all about creating perceptions and making emotional connections with people. There are competing perceptions that he'll have to maintain that will collide with one another.
that's the cheerleading media's job! I'm sure they'll find a way to spin all Obama's failings into successes. Posted by: Jim King at November 11, 2008 03:13 PM (a5AHd) 45
What's with Ambinder's annoying use of "surprise"? It makes the focus of the article not about Obama's manipulations, but about whether the WH is angry or annoyed. How trivial.
Aren't there more interesting angles? The "no drama Obama" people actually don't mind drama and leaks. They can't be trusted to keep negotiations quiet. And more than anything, they are trying to get Bush to take the reigns on the GM bailout, so that Obama won't have to. Once again, Obama wants to vote present. Obama doesn't want to have to work against the unions, which the gov't would have to do if we give GM money. That's interesting, Ambinder. Sorry if you aren't surprised. Posted by: MayBee at November 11, 2008 03:15 PM (DL6+F) 46
Bush played kissy-face with these scum for the past eight years and got buggerd every time he did. Why would he not expect to get punched in the face again?
He is the epitome of the saying "Nice guys finish last." Posted by: emdfl at November 11, 2008 03:16 PM (N1uaO) 47
He is the epitome of the saying "Nice guys finish last."
Yes, because serving two terms as President of the United States is the very fucking definition of finishing last. We should all fail so badly. Posted by: DrewM. at November 11, 2008 03:17 PM (hlYel) 48
obama denouced his own minister (of 20 years) just to make himself look innocent---this guy has no loyalty except with money....pay him and he'll do/say anything....obama has no ethics, nor any empathy to anyone unless they gave him money.....(this is why he is so chummy with hamas and ayers like creatures) watch as he throws all this far left supporters under the bus.....without blinking an eye.....he doesn't need them anymore.....as president, he doesn't need anyone now....
Posted by: nygal at November 11, 2008 03:18 PM (+/c0N) 49
Nah...why not play the Barack game and slam him (and the NYT) on the stupidity of his car plan, and his indebtedness to Michigan union thugs, and environmentalists and Al Gore saves the planet and his opposition to free trade and his dumb Colomiba kills unionist jibe and for being an impolite tool. I'm sure you guys can do better than me.
Posted by: saint at November 11, 2008 03:22 PM (eJKYo) 50
As if you needed proof, it is now obvious that President–Elect Obama is anything but a class act. Make no mistake the individual that is about to move into the most hallowed and prestigious residence in the world stands to lower the bar well below what we thought possible during the Clinton years. The complete lack of caution displayed by Obama and his transition team in disclosing the confidential discussion with President Bush on Monday should prove this to any honest observer. Team Obama wasted no time in running full speed to their favorite mouth pieces The New York Times and the AP in order to try and smear the sitting president in an attack that reeks of nothing more than rumor mongering and back stabbing. These tactics should come as no surprise to anyone who has paid the slight bit of attention to how Obama ran his campaign and the tactics used in the past to destroy his opponents.... More At: http://www.hostileopposition.blogspot.com Posted by: The Angry Capitalist at November 11, 2008 03:22 PM (Xu9h4) 51
How should Bush react? Simple. Pardon Scooter Libby. Now. Without delay. Then we'll get to enjoy watching the One's disciples turn purple with rage.
Posted by: ombudsman at November 11, 2008 03:23 PM (fWF4Q) 52
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I think Pres. Bush went too far in being nice. Starting with claiming the Clinton folks didn't remove W keys etc. Being nice and polite with people who are willing to break the rules to win doesn't make them respect you. Exactly. Can we copy this sentiment and send it to every Republican politician in the U.S. stat? Posted by: shibumi at November 11, 2008 03:24 PM (tZB/c) 53
DrewM. at November 11, 2008 03:03 PM (hlYel) Thanks DrewM. I know you haven't been a big defender of Bush on policies but you have always defended him against hyperbole when logic dictates. Posted by: polynikes at November 11, 2008 03:25 PM (m2CN7) 54
We're talking about Federal support- in perpetuity- for the UAW. We're talking about nationalizing American manufacturers in order to create the ObamaWagen. Who cares about these "leaks"?
Finance and Autos. What industry is next? Steel? Coal? It's a brilliant strategy, compassionately confiscating industries that you've hammered down with regulation, unions, taxation and then finished off with your masterpiece, the Fannie Mae credit crunch and recession. And have TASS- I'm sorry, I meant AP- blame it on Bush. Posted by: seyont at November 11, 2008 03:26 PM (FcR7P) 55
Can we stop referring to the bail out as a bail out for GM? As a Michigan resident, I can say with authority that this is NOT a bail out for GM. In fact, as someone said yesterday, the government might just as well give the money straight to the Unions, as that is who it is for. Obama does not care about GM, and would not care if it folded. Obama does care, however, about the Unions and the promises he made to them (they break the knees of people who break promises) and so Obama wants the money for the Unions. That is why Gettlefinger was at every meeting. He wants to make sure nothing is put over on the unions.
Posted by: notforobama at November 11, 2008 03:29 PM (jgcGm) 56
This reminds me of a group of junior high kids. They know a secret and can't wait 5 minutes to tell it especially if it will embarrass someone outside their little group. I find this particularly ironic since the Obama brain trust went on "60 Minutes" and bragged about how few leaks there were in the campaign.
Posted by: Steve L. at November 11, 2008 03:34 PM (o0YD+) Posted by: Jim Treacher at November 11, 2008 03:36 PM (NV3P1) 58
47, I'm sure Bush knew they exactly what they would do with a juicy little tidbit. He put it on the table and they embarassed themselves. Bush is leaving as "Gracious", Obama is coming in as "Classless." I wonder how long it will take the media to turn on Obama once that $600M has worked its way through their balance sheets. What are they going to sell next month and how are they going to get their credibility back? I wonder how the VP handoff is going, I suspect Biden and Cheney won't be going duck hunting on the Eastern Shore. Posted by: Jean at November 11, 2008 03:38 PM (L64A6) 59
Giving money to GM for a bailout will work almost as well as giving Curly the water-let-er-outer did for the Stooge's boat.
Posted by: roy at November 11, 2008 03:41 PM (cB77O) 60
Foreign leaders are getting a preview of the Hussein regime. Talk to them in private and expect it to be on the front page of the NYSlimes before you get home. Make a deal with him and expect to get stabbed in the back. Support him for 20 years and get thrown under the big bus. Never trust a man who would give two world leaders the finger in public. He's no more than a retarded street thug from Chicago. Lots of people will learn that in the near future. Take his teleprompter and flowery words written by a white man away and he's bumbling mumbling idiot. Four years of comedy coming your way at great expense. Posted by: Scrapiron at November 11, 2008 03:42 PM (XWJh5) 61
"(this is why he is so chummy with hamas and ayers like creatures) watch
as he throws all this far left supporters under the bus.....without
blinking an eye....."
If I could believe that, I would have hope. I don't. Because I know he has been a student of Marxism all his life. Posted by: Alana at November 11, 2008 03:44 PM (JE2zV) 62
The irony of this is lost on me
Posted by: The People at November 11, 2008 03:44 PM (waaUg) 63
Imagine if the MSM finds a single keyboard in the WH on January 21st with an 'O' missing. The first suspect has to be the MSM and the second is O's team. The MSM didn't just nail Bush for eight years. They nailed him on something specific: lying. Clinton lied so Bush had to lie too. So, yes, there will be reports of missing Os on keyboards simply because if Democrats are petulant assholes then Republicans must be too. Posted by: East Bay Jim at November 11, 2008 03:45 PM (ocHBO) 64
Perhaps just a heads up of what we're going to see for the next 4 years? No opportunity to play the spoiler will be passed up? But I'd best stop before I get told that I have ODS.
Posted by: jane at November 11, 2008 03:45 PM (EJzKR) 65
And more than anything, they are trying to get Bush to take the reigns on the GM bailout, so that Obama won't have to. Once again, Obama wants to vote present. Obama doesn't want to have to work against the unions, which the gov't would have to do if we give GM money.
That's interesting, Ambinder. Sorry if you aren't surprised. Posted by: MayBee at November 11, 2008 03:15 PM (DL6+F) +1 I think what may have the White House pissed is that the Obama camp probably just made up the "Colombian free trade agreement quid pro quo" out of whole cloth. They want it to look like Obama is already President, negotiating and bargaining over a major policy issue with an unpopular lame-duck, while in actuality they get to avoid the heavy lifting. My guess is that all he did was mention to Bush that he hopes there will be some help for the auto companies, then his people spun it knowing that the White House team (a) is too classy and (b) has no credibility with the media to actally argue the substance. I dearly hope that Bush has enough sense not to get roped into anything by this snake. He should make Congress debate what to do for the auto companies and veto whatever they come up with. Make Obama own this one. GM is at most three months away from bankruptcy, and a bankruptcy filing is what the UAW fears most because it would allow GM to get out from under its onerous UAW contracts. The economy will dictate when GM is bankrupt, not the date of Obama's inauguration. Posted by: rockmom at November 11, 2008 03:47 PM (iZqUY) 66
Politico makes is obvious it was Emmanuel that tied the two issues together:
Obama’s newly appointed chief of staff Rahm Emanuel suggested Sunday that the president elect wasn’t interested in a deal to remove White House opposition to a stimulus package in exchange for congressional approval of the trade agreement, which has been opposed by unions and some Democrats. Oh, it was just Rahm conflating two issues to mislead people about an opponent's position. Surprise! Ambinder calls it a "communications strategy" Surprise. There's nothing new about Obama's brand of politics. Is Ambinder surprised? Are his readers? Posted by: MayBee at November 11, 2008 03:51 PM (DL6+F) 67
All this proves, for 850 trillionth time, is that Bush is a gullible fucking nitwit. Eight years of relentless hatred and scorn from the Dems, then he meets with the prez-elect who crapped all over him during the campaign and he's surprised that he doesn't get Tiffany treatment from the Dem messiah? Fucking moron.
Posted by: spork at November 11, 2008 03:52 PM (Os0qO) 68
Can you blame the President-elect for skipping foreplay when you consider the First Lady? Imagine rubbing those feet.
Posted by: MCho'sCandidaDiet at November 11, 2008 03:55 PM (EJmQG) 69
The riff raff is moving in.
Posted by: katya at November 11, 2008 03:58 PM (G3frc) 70
The Muslim terrorists couldn't make President Bush quit. The pretend President and his fan club sure as heck won't either.
Posted by: katya at November 11, 2008 04:00 PM (G3frc) 71
Obama is the current form of Gozer the Traveler. Only slightly less disturbing that an giant Slor.
Posted by: toby928 at November 11, 2008 04:00 PM (evdj2) Posted by: polynikes at November 11, 2008 04:04 PM (m2CN7) 73
This is war, asshat.
On today of all days, do you really want to use that hyperbole? Posted by: adamthemad at November 11, 2008 04:06 PM (kIjlp) 74
It's not just GW, it's GHWB as well. I do not believe that I have ever, ever heard GHWB make any type of serious criticism of Clinton, either during Clinton's tenure or now. Hell, during the 2000 vote fight, all Bush the Elder would do is comment about how proud he was of his son, etc. It is simply Not Done to act how Obama is acting.
I'm torn. Class is worth a lot, as you ignorant fucktards don't always seem to appreciate. But I really really want to start playing by the rules the Left seems to want to use. It sure seems like more fun. Posted by: alexthechick at November 11, 2008 04:13 PM (SHHaV) 75
Good. Bush can now stop letting Obama know anything - and let The One fall flat on his face with a basket full of surprises on 1/20/09. But he won't cause Bush loves this country more than he loves himself. And he is a class act. But at least now he knows without a doubt how Obama & his people operate and he can act accordingly. Watch your back, Mr. President. Posted by: katya at November 11, 2008 04:18 PM (G3frc) 76
GWB is one of the biggest fucking patsies I've ever seen. He trusted that tub of lard Ted Kennedy on "education reform" and now trusts Obama. Dumb ass.
Posted by: steve at November 11, 2008 04:18 PM (09ntO) 77
Hey Bush did what he was supposed to do. He did it early, usually the meeting occurs later. So, now Bush simply doesn't have to answer the phone and seriously, no one would blame him. You can have a transition or you can have a transition. One kind of transition is amicable and helpful, the other is simply handing you "the stuff" and "the keys to the wash room" and moving on. When questions arise, you simply "don't recall" or "don't know enough now about the situation". We've all had business transitions, the first is vastly preferable to the second as it is sometimes months before you can get a grip when you have the second.
Posted by: incredulous at November 11, 2008 04:21 PM (zplc6) 78
Hopefully, President-Elect Obama and his team will learn that now that
they aren't campaigning for the job anymore, they need to grow up and
realize not every occasion is an appropriate time to further their
communications strategy.
-- From the post Uhhh ... for those who have not been paying attention to the details, Bambi is an islamo-marxist who wants to destroy this country. He is not worried about the traditions or etiquette of America or American politics. He wants to destroy them. McCain did not understand the seething hatred for America animating the Farrakhan/Ayers faction, now the ruling regime. Apparently even those less naive than McCain do not understand that hatred either. This election is going to be about revenge and unleashing the nihilism underlying every totalitarian vision. Loathing is the essence, and it is loathing we shall receive. Posted by: Tonawanda at November 11, 2008 04:28 PM (IA49+) 79
A second thought: Bambi is going to get 100% cooperation from world leaders in their own favorite project: the humiliation and downfall of America.
Folks, Bambi is not going to have enemies in foreign capitals, just friends. It is America who will have enemies. Posted by: Tonawanda at November 11, 2008 04:32 PM (IA49+) 80
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He compares very favorably with two of the three you mentioned. FDR was, like Obama, a socialist. And JFK and Camelot were a media construct based on the candidate's attractiveness, much like what has occurred in the past eighteen months with Obama. Reagan is his superior in every way. ------------ Please refresh my memory. JFK had a huge laundry list of violent radical and marxist friends? Can you please provide them? It's been too many years, I can't think of any. Posted by: huh? at November 11, 2008 07:12 PM (B/Y39) 101
Do the geniuses at the Atlantic think that Africa is a country? Because they don't seem to know that Colombia is a country. (And British Columbia is a Canadian province that's already part of NAFTA.) Posted by: andycanuck at November 11, 2008 07:16 PM (6rN+7) 102
JFK had a huge laundry list of violent radical and marxist friends? Can you please provide them? It's been too many years, I can't think of any.
Where I'd agree with the guy and what I think he means is that the whole Camelot idea came from the media shilling for JFK, much more than any sort of noticeable change/prosperity in America. Posted by: AD at November 11, 2008 07:19 PM (dW9kw) 103
i'm not getting the comparison at all. Your talking about men that actually were sworn in and DID things as the president and did great things. Obama won the elecion 5 days ago and has done nothing and will do nothing for a few months. He has to actually do things-many things- before he can be compared to the others. But if that is the standard, he compares very well with Castro, Hitler and Stalin as well
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Typical affirmative action thug. We might as well get used to being led by this graceless, classless thug. We are in for a long 4 years. And yes, for the sake of the country the next Republican leaders need to start playing by their rules. I admire Bush, he did the best he could and he steadfastly stuck by what he believed. The success in Iraq is his and General Petraus, no one elses', but I honestly think he is too much the gentleman. Democrats are small time hoods, nothing else. Posted by: BattleofthePyramids at November 11, 2008 08:27 PM (ssuTf) 108
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President Zero has just put himself further out of the loop.
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Kevin Rudd already tried this sh!t on; it somehow "accidentally leaked" to the Aussie media that Bush asked K-Rudd in a phone call what the G20 is (the phone call was about the upcoming G20 summit, go figure). Unfortunately the White House taped the call. Oh and guess whether or not Bush actually had to ask Kevni what the G20 was when he was taking a phone call about it? Oh and guess how many people were privvy to the call and could leak it. Whoops! Oh Kevin you big silly, you. Guessing it went something like this though (shamelessly ripped offa Tim Blair's site, an act for which I plan to display no contrition or remorse): Riiiiing.. B: Wazzap? K: Hi Mr Bush it's Kevin here B: Who? Bloody hell I told you people last week I already have insurance.. K: No, Kevin Rudd B: .. K: Kevin Rudd, the Prime Minister of Strayer.. B: Oh, it's YOU, well make it quick then K: Yeah it's about the G20 summit, I was thinking I might go off the script a little with my opening remar... B: (interrupts) What's .. (line crackles) the G20 .... (static) ..in the hell would I let YOU open the damn thing ... (static) ... HAHAHAHAHAHA ... ya little dried-up piece of sh.. (static) .. yeah that's right I said stick it right up ya as (crackle) .. . ater sucka! K: Huh? Did he just ask me what the G20 was? (Uberdouche hipster poli-sci graduate K-Rudd advisor) Quick I'll call Tommo down at that Sydney Morning Herald let's run with this K: Yeah good idea they're probably starting to forget how smart I am it's not like we've mentioned it much this week Posted by: DJ Douche at November 12, 2008 02:23 AM (QKrrS) 117
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Up here in Canada that orderly transfer of power happens the next day, not 2 1/2 months later. Yeah it takes a little longer to change the transmission in a Ferrari than to change the chain on a ten-speed. Posted by: polynikes at November 12, 2008 11:12 AM (m2CN7) 119
No surprises here, Teh Obamessiah is a malignant narcissist of the first order. He will do/say anything, even if it's just voting "present", to get a good mention in the news and receive the adoration of the mob. He should of course refrain from relying on the fickle favor of the mob, but that's for later. Yet, here we are with our first president to siti n the White House and plan his agenda, policies, and schedule based on "Does this make me look good?" as opposed to "Does this result in good for the country?"
My friend CPT Charles said it right. We now have Dear Leader in charge instead of Mister President. Posted by: exdem13 at November 12, 2008 11:28 AM (707MH) Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2008 12:16 PM (6rN+7) 121
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>Yeah it takes a little longer to change the transmission in a Ferrari than to change the chain on a ten-speed. ~polynikes Funny how fast that "change" happened on November 22, 1963. Of course you could never have a coup d’état in Canada like happened that day in the U.S. by shooting a single man like that, the cabinet here being elected and all. Posted by: Speller at November 12, 2008 04:08 PM (Uagor) 123
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