1

Seems like a thankless job for him. He'd be a lightning rod for liberals, but would have to spout a watered down, party line. No big words, and all.

But I want him in the mix, somewhere. Someone who can outline and defend conservative ideas, without having to squint into a teleprompter. *COUGH MAVERICK *COUGH*

2 Not too thrilled with some of what Newt Gingrich has signed off on, but who the hell else is there?

The question is would he actually get rid of the Milquetoast Republicans?

3 Dean was a lightning rod on the left and it seemed to work out OK for the moonbats.

4 We've got a mighty thin bench...

5

REPOST...slighly less off-topic here:

Now, why would Obamites need THIS:

 

Obama aides and allies are preparing a major expansion of the White House communications operation, enabling them to reach out directly to the supporters they have collected over 21 months without having to go through the mainstream media.

 

 

….when the media admits they have THIS:

 

The Post provided a lot of good campaign coverage, but readers have been consistently critical of the lack of probing issues coverage and what they saw as a tilt toward Democrat Barack Obama. My surveys, which ended on Election Day, show that they are right on both counts.

 

Same paper, BTW.

6 I think Newt might have the right idea for global warming. Here me out, for a second.

I think he knows it three-quarters bullshit, so why not take on the issue...Conservative style.

Environmental changes that don't throttle the various industries could be, I repeat could be, a boon to our economy and award us neat dividends in technological advances.

What's wrong with building a car that gets 100 mpg? Or perfecting wind power?

7

Dean was a lightning rod on the left and it seemed to work out OK for the moonbats.

True, but the Right did not have the vitriolic hatred of Dean as the Left does Newt (and by Left, of course, I include the reporters covering the GOP.)

 

8
Oh great -- the formerly great conservative thinker, presently global warming/universal health care douchenozzle, gets to run the RNC (into the ground).

WTF are these guys thinking?

9

Posted by: Bart at November 10, 2008 05:07 PM (ICFJ+)

I'm with you Bart. As I said before, we need coherent stances on every issue - a conservative approach to the issues of the day beyond "NO!"

10 I think Newt would be great, except for that Newt-shaped ass print on the couch next to Pelosi.  Global warming is a hoax and I'd prefer RNC leadership that didn't buy  into it.  Other than that, Go Newt, anything is an improvement at this point.

11 I'd sort of like to see Newt as RNC, but I keep remembering the picture of him sitting on that couch with Nancy Pelosi. Nevertheless, we need someone who knows how to win and since Ronald Reagan is dead, he's the one most experienced guy we've got.

And that includes Karl Rove. We need him free to use his mind control ray to drive Democrats crazy.

12

 Remember way back at the beginning of all this last round of shit the “centrist” (read liberal) Republicans said “oh no, not Newt, he has too many negatives”.  I said fuck ya’ll, the only people he has negatives with are the fucking liberals. Their reply was we need a “centrist to appeal to the middle”.

 

They will ALL say the same thing now. Hell, we will be able to calibrate our “get the assholes out of the Party strategy” by all the assholes who come out now and preach the same fucking thing again after losing with their fucking centrist, reach across the aisle maverick. The only difference now is his AGW bullshit which he said we needed to do to “get a seat at the table”.  We have to get him to acknowledge that a seat at a table full of communists is already a sign of surrender.

 

The RNC chairman needs to be someone who is ready for full tilt boogy and no holds barred.

13 It think it would be a perfect time for Newt to serve as RNC chair. The left isn't going to be able to use any conservative bogeyman as cover for at least two years. They can try all they want but they're going to have to take responsibility for their actions and inactions. That will give Newt enough time to get the GOP some backbone and get back to basics.

14 Posted by: CJ

Flash mobs and directed protests IMHO.

They are gathering up the interests and concerns of the people who post their stories on Change.gov. This tells them who is into environmentalism abortion, pro-terrorism, anti-Christians, etc. They them have a pool of fanatics of every flavour for all the national regions and can direct them as they see fit.

15 Newt is a very thoughtful guy. Really, really smart. He still has an occasional brain fart, but he is very good at formulating/coalescing platforms and pitching them.

It's his follow-through that sometimes has me concerned. In the right place, he'd be terrific - which is why I cringe when anyone considers him for President. He could debate practically anyone under the table, but he doesn't have the political chops to do damage when he's won.

However, as RNC chairman, I think he'd be great. Formulate a plan and sell it to the masses, respectfully and clearly? He's perfect. Is he a good whip in that position? I dunno, but for an ideologue who needs to set a political template, I'm pretty sure he'd be up for the job.

16 True dat, cut the "world is hot" nonsense, Nued

17 Amusing anecodote: I joined the Corps in 1998 and spent five years in Japan...I liked it, so I stayed...Well, I got done with that and came home to get my degree, and I had the sublime displeasure of entreating with the world's most fucking stupidest people: college students and college professors.

The war was basically in full swing so I had to bash alot of effiminate skulls full of mush about nearly everything, because the majority of people are completely clueless about war and history and alot, really. One of my companions in the smoke-pit threw up his hands and called me a conservative (I wish I had a cigar for him but alas only Marlboros). He asked me point blank whether I "at least" believed in Global Warming.

I was at a loss. Global WTF? Then I remembered this kickass magazine I used to get as a kid - OMNI  magazine - and it had all sorts of stuff on zero-point energy and UFOs and lucid dreaming and all of that, and in each issue there was always a blurb about Global Warming. (This was before they had to hedge the term with Climate Change.)

So I said, "You mean the crazy shit about the world coming to an end because we're driving too much?" And I just shook my head, not really in a "No, I do not," but more of a WTF, are you serious sort of way.

America, in the 5 years I was gone, I love you but you fuckers really just lost your ever-lovin' minds.

18 I actually like Newt but he does run on a bit. What he is good at is getting a sense of where the electorate is moving. I just wish he would not be in front of the camera too much. Anything would be better than the last RNC chair. Who was that anyway?

19 No fucking way. He needs to hang it up, stick to writing pretty entertaining alternative military history novels, and stay the fuck out of politics. We need a new generation of Republicans, or perhaps a whole new Conservative Party, to do battle with the threats out there his generation couldn't or wouldn't stop.

20 Karl Rove front and center.  He can organize the masses.  Karl Karl he's the one.....no to newt...can't trust him..

21 If not Newt, who?  There are rumors that Newt may be interested to run for POTUS in 2012, don't know what I think about that idea. Someone new and fresh would be better, Cantor perhaps..

22 I think he's a good possibility. ONLY if he will STAUNCHLY preserve and uphold CONSERVATIVE principals. No more sittin' on the couch w/ Ms Pelosi! As a matter of fact he could start by having a bon fire with that couch as the firewood, imo.

23 if fucking Dean could be DNC and watch the country go socialist in 4 years after an 04 where dems were FUCKED, Newt can save us from O by becoming RNC

24

Let's not forget that Newton Henry Gingrich pushed the Lautenberg Amendment through the House.  He should not be in any important role in the Republican Party ever again.

Interesting, isn't it, how the same Republicans who were willing to roll over and die on gun control, in the late '90's (in a country with 100 million gun owners), are the same ones who want to roll over and die on global warming now (in a nation with maybe 250 million automobile drivers).  These guys are willing to let freedom, America, and the GOP die simply so they can keep getting invited to swinger parties in DC.

25 Oh, and he needs to eat crow on the $700B swindle bail-out.  You know, the one titled "troubled asset relief program," but hasn't been used to buy a single financial instrument.  Yeah, that one, the one which Paulson has used to go on a bank shopping spree.  Wee, let's have the feds own all of the banks.

26 These guys are willing to let freedom, America, and the GOP die simply so they can keep getting invited to swinger parties in DC.

Tell me more about these swinger parties you speak of.

27 Let's just rewind Newt's brain to about September 1994.  Then he'd be perfect for the job.

28 Vercingetorix

welcome to my nightmare. Either your a true redblooded American troop or the best troll I have seen yet. This group will be in the first train car on it's way to the re-education camps. You my son qualify.

We are the last of the Mohicans, conservative style. Magwa is in the White house with the French and the British giving him support. Keep your powder dry.

29 I get the feeling that global warming is the one compromise many Republicans are throwing at the Left.  Kind of a little "peace offering".

30 Nancy's husband is hooked up with T. Boone for his windpower b.s.  I wouldn't be surprised if old Newt has a little stake in that himself.

Karl Rove is the man...and the dems already are absolutely driven crazy by the guy. 

31

Some people will object, but there's not a lot of good people out there who could do the job and would want it.

Maybe Chuck Hagel's free?

 

32

Newt wouldn't be bad, but he has been flirting with the left too much for my tastes. 

33
Newt has become part of the problem.

We don't need him as a leader unless we want to arrive at oblivion.

34

Karl Rove is the man

 

Karl Rove has ridden the once proud Republican Party into the ground. Really, I'd sooner take Hagel, even though I was joking before.

 

35 Katya,
that is not a peace offering. That is the game changer. Review Kyoto and look how it benefits China at our expense. All the belief in this myth will do is drive all manufacturing out of the conus U.S.

36

Newt has become part of the problem.

 

As opposed to .......?

 

37 Who is it now? Martinez?

38

Well, global warming legislation is a lead pipe cinch to pass next year, and the GOP Presidential nominee is a bigger supporter of it than Obama, so it's odd to me that people are willing to toss Newt on that basis.

 

39

I agree with Bart completely. I, personally, don't believe in global warming, but there are many who do. Newt proposes that instead of having government mandates to cure the problem, we let the free market handle it.

whether we believe in global warming or not is not going to make the issue go away in the eyes of the voters. We can either give them an answer firmly rooted in conservative principles or we can let them vote Democrat.

 

Go Newt!

40

that is not a peace offering. That is the game changer. Review Kyoto and look how it benefits China at our expense. All the belief in this myth will do is drive all manufacturing out of the conus U.S.

I don't consider it a peace offering but I can't fathom why Newt and even Pres. Bush have gone along with it to a certain degree unless otherwise.

41

Mike Duncan is the current chair.

From the article;

 

Though he retains his reputation as a polarizing figure, Gingrich served as a sideline strategist for the GOP during the presidential season. He pointed McCain to the issue of offshore drilling. But Gingrich also helped generate skepticism over the Wall Street bailout — which McCain and other Senate Republicans supported.

There's more good than bad there, imo.

 

42 Absolutely not Newt.

This man bravely and cleverly helped the Republicans take over the House, and then proceeded to make it All About Newt, The World Historical Giant.   He was an embarrassment because he was (and apparently still is) a man lacking character.   It is Newt first, foremost and forever.

Make it Eric Cantor or some similar younger man or woman who has true principle, character, high intellect and political smarts.

Not some by-gone blowhard who thinks the sun rises and sets on his quasi-dimensional alternative hyper-peerless deep and scary brain.

43

Karl Rove has supervised the Bush/Republican strategy for the last 8 years and it has been a fucking disaster. He is the one behind this “stay above the fray” bullshit that allowed the Bush Lied meme to fester for so long. Fuck Karl Rove.

44 What are Karl Rove's stand on the issues?

45 How sweet.  This selection would be a very thoughtful inauguration present for President Obama from the RNC.  I'm certain he would love this news.  If you guys enjoy permanent minority status, sure, go for it!!

46

Party chair is not the silver bullet the left thinks it is.  Remember how excited they got with Dean, well, they won in spite of Dean, not because of him.  It is basically a fund raising role, nothing else, and Dean failed miserably at it.  They should have a 100 seat majority and they don't.

I would vote for Newt in a second, for any position.

47 Newt?  Meh.  We could do worse, I guess.  He at least knows how to talk like conservative principles matter.  Of course, being a former congressman and all, he's got the "If you don't like my principles, I have others" thing going on.

48 Newt? thanks but no thanks...

Fred Thompson for RNC Chair

49 What about Rick Santorum?

50 Fred Thompson!

51

Gingrich, the former Republican speaker of the House of Representatives, has been working alongside the wife of former President Bill Clinton, now a Democratic senator from New York, on a number of issues, and even appeared with her at a press conference on Wednesday to promote - of all things - health care legislation.

But more puzzling than that, Gingrich has been talking up Clinton's presidential prospects in 2008, to the chagrin of conservative loyalists who once regarded him as an iconic figure. Last month, he even suggested she might capture the presidency, saying "any Republican who thinks she's going to be easy to beat has a total amnesia about the history of the Clintons."

GO NEWT!

52 I think Newt is a good choice.  He has good political instincts, and I think he realizes that the GOP needs to be re-organized.  I guess what I don't know is if he will be willing to buck the country-club types and the RINOs.

53

What are Karl Rove's stand on the issues?

He has none.

 

Make it Eric Cantor or some similar younger man or woman who has true principle, character, high intellect and political smarts.

I've heard a lot of stuff about Cantor lately, and it's almost all bad.

You're not going to find a whole lot of people involved in politics who have "true principle, character, high intellect and political smarts". Which is why the Newt critics are not throwing up any good names of their own.

 

54 My only problem with Fred is how seem to lack energy in his own run for POTUS. Why would he fight harder for others?

Lizzie, girl you must need a date or something. Why you hanging out here again? I am married but I am sure one of these Morons would step up to the plate for you.

55 Lizzie, girl you must need a date or something. Why you hanging out here again? I am married but I am sure one of these Morons would step up to the plate for you. Posted by: locus ceruleus

What are you crazy? You don't know where it's been!

56

This selection would be a very thoughtful inauguration present for President Obama from the RNC.  I'm certain he would love this news.

 

You presume to know the Mind of a Living God?

Blasphemer! Burn her at the stake!

 

 

57 What's wrong with building a car that gets 100 mpg?

Nothing by itself. Conservatives have always been for conservation.

However, we cannot cede the language of the debate to the AGW crowd and lie to ourselves that global warming is anything but unmittigated bullshit. Those that are using AGW as a neo-luddite backdoor to wrecking our economy will immediately be empowered to carry out their whole agenda. Only 'evil' people would stand against 'saving' the earth at that point.

If Newt were to slice the conservation idea into finite pieces, that would be fine; using less oil, building up domestic energy markets, cutting through  nuke power plants' red tape, etc. The minute we agree that humans are the sole and driving cause of the increase in global temps that aren't increasing, the alarmists will railroad disasterous laws into being because the chain of logic is taut; if humans cause warming, and warming is disasterous, we must curtail human activity and accept a lesser, non-dynamic existence.

We can't cede the lanugage. We have to be forceful in pointing out the folly of AGW because you can't modify alarmist conjecture into a kind and gentle prosperity. Language is at the core of many of the battles with the left. We had better learn this or we are lost.

58 Travis,

you got to let him come out and play sometime. Megyn Kelly is not available.

59 I have been reading Newt's emails and studying his messages for a while now. I've read Newt's latest book. I've listened to him kick the media in the tail. I've watched him assault liberals better than most politicians have the stomach for.  And I've listened to him convincingly articulate the problem with the GOP - "failure to communicate a unified message."  Particularly to those that have never felt they could benefit from GOP philosophies. They need to hear the message, like they did with the Contract with America.

I don't think Gingrich has suggested we cave on the global warming issue. Instead he has said we should invest in the climate change message and offer solutions that are in tune with the principles of the GOP. By not speaking about the subject, it appears we are dismissing any discussion, regardless if the discussion is coming from Chicken Little.

Regarding his personal baggage, I don't think any cable news outlet will be bringing that up at every interview. They don't bring up the Dean scream to Howie. And what politician doesn't have at least one flawed vote, legislation, statement? Are they really deal-breakers for Newt?

Gingrich can energize the party by unifying a message, utilizing technology (Dems are leaps and bounds ahead of us on this), and growing the membership/leadership.

I will gladly renew my GOP membership with Newt at the helm. Cha-ching!

60 Haley Barbour.

61 ....Rick Santorum, if he could get edgier....hire young madison ave. types and start selling conservatism...

It does it appeal, but no one can articulate....old white rich man doesn't
tell the story.  We are more Joe the Plumber types.  And there are plenty of them....Madison Ave. sells us stuff every day.  Rick is cute and if he had an agenda he could sell it.

62 Michael Steele is the best choice because all the usual attacks by the left and the media would be RACIST. 

63 Anyone is better than Duncan.

64 The RNC chair is not the head of the party, guys. And the man who I suppose IS the head of the party these days, McCain, is one of the biggest AGM backers in Washington.  So I'm scratching my head stroking my chin pensively at this discussion.

65

What's wrong with building a car that gets 100 mpg? Or perfecting wind power?

Uhh... what's wrong with building me realistic sexbots with government money?

Screw 3/4 bullshit. it's 4/4 bullshit. No sell man. Alot of the public has allready wised up to global warming anyway... It'd dumb ass shit to surrender now.

And frankly, it's a teachable moment to have this farce collapse. It's a lot more in the environmental movement besides just global warming that's a complete farce.

Hey guess what? Polar bears aren't actually endangered.

66

If Newt is not a solid enough conservative for you, you do not want Steele.

We need people who are articulate and can slap down reporters and such. That shortens the list. Rudy? No.

 

67

 we should invest in the climate change message and offer solutions that are in tune with the principles of the GOP

You can't solve something that's not a problem.

The message is BS.

He's right that we can't ignore - but we ought to be fighting the premise of it. The conservative solution is to pull the curtain aside and expose the old man pulling levers behind it.

68

what's wrong with building me realistic sexbots with government money?

 

Give me a minute  ..........

No, I can't think of  a thing.

 

But I see some of you are still under the impression that global warming bills can be stopped. I hate to be the one to tell you, but that's not gonna happen. The votes to block it are not there.

 

69

Newt?  NEWT?!

Fund raiser?  I, personally, gave not one penny to the NRCC, the NRSC, or McCain, though I did donate to individual campaigns (not MY lame-ass Republican Representative).

Ask yourselves this question: whom would get you to donate to the RNC?  Cantor?  Come on, we need him in Congress and he's not the right person.

I like the Thompson suggestion, but Newt is a smarmy huckster.  Honestly: Would you budget money to send to Newt?  Or would you save it to spend on your own hookers?

70 I've got an idea.

Let's ask Sarah Palin to choose the next RNC. If Neutron Newt is OK with her, he's OK. If she wants anybody else, I'll support her. The way I figure it the Republicans need two things: 1) a strategy to win the next election cycle despite a significantly tilted playing field (e.g. Chicago rules and ACORN), and 2) a big pile of money to fight the political wars of 2010 and 2012. This means Newt running strategy and Sarah raising funds.

71 I think this class warfare thing should be pounded.  The dems are the rich and powerful, name names.  It is conservatism that is really the everyman.  An adman could make this case effectively.

72 Newt can make complicated ideas sound simple, digestible to the learning challenged, We have to find a way to engage people's gray matter or it's President for Life Obamanista.

73 Newt is an excellent tactician.  Party chair is all about tactics and money - he's perfect.  Having said that, though, let's all remember party chair is a post that isn't that important in the big picture.  You don't get to dictate policies.

What Republicans need is a short list of principles we can take and sell to Joe Sixpack.  We did it just about right with the "Contract for America", but then squandered the opportunity by turning into Democrats once we had control of the legislature.  The key difficulty now will be getting people to believe the people they elect are actually serious this time.  I'm not sure how to do that, honestly.  The Contract with America was a pretty succinct  list of (economic) conservative core principles, and once you've betrayed someone's trust it's a hard thing to get back.

I don't think Bush takes the blame for all of this.  The squandering part started almost as soon as Newt was pushed out.  Hell, Lott and Hastert were bragging about their "K Street Project".

74 Sorry, Ace -- I disagree...and it is precisely because of his idiotic embrace of GW.

75 Ya'll give him way too much grief on his global warming position. If you listened to his reasoning; he does it so he doesn't have to answer the charge of being a "denier" and it lets him instantly offer up free market solutions to the issue without any false labels being assigned to him.

76

Michael Steele is the best choice because all the usual attacks by the left and the media would be RACIST. 

I tend to agree but, after that sellout and AA failure Powell, I'm not so sure...

77

I, personally, gave not one penny to the NRCC, the NRSC, or McCain, though I did donate to individual campaigns (not MY lame-ass Republican Representative).

I'm not sure what that has to do with Newt, commendable though it is.

 

Newt is a smarmy huckster

That's not a nice thing to say about the man who got the GOP the House for the first time in forty years. He's smart and ruthless. In case you haven't noticed, the typical Republican in leadership positions is neither one of these things.

 

 

78 Newt is the youth movement...  Of 15 years ago.  He's spent the last decade sucking up to Hillary, Pelosi, and the Greenbats, and shows no sign of understanding the internet in general or blogs in particular.

We need Fred.

79

77 -- Maybe so, but he couldn't hold onto it or keep the R-spenders in line.

80 Locus, i don't have a date tonight but I do need to get a life!!  However I love politics almost as much as I love wine and it's fun to be exposed to all points of view.  I'm as liberal as they get, but then again so are a lot of Republicans!!

Seriously though picking Newt would be just slightly better than picking Pat Robertson.

The Republicans better embrace the center soon or they will not see many victories in the future.  I know you guys don't want to hear this, but just look at us.  Every centrist candidate we elect wins.  Look at the Democratic governors in places like Virginia, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Montana.  These are hardly mini San Franciscos.

Centrist politics is the future, and the present actually, I am both amazed and eternally grateful that we disagree on this issue, as seen by most commenters here.

81 Vercingetorix,

I am with you. Leave to serve a couple years overseas, come home just happy to be back in America. You think you are gonna get to hang out and watch some football for a few years and some a-holes blow our crap up, so you leave to go to the sandbox, but when you come home the place has gone batshit crazy. Not too sure what to think right now, but at least a bunch of us have learned how to deal with an insurgency.

82

I think Newt has appeal to both the right wing and centrists.

He'd be a good choice...only problem is that the center of the party will remain in the South, and the GOP will never make gains in the NE again until that changes imho.

 

83 I like Fred, but he seems to lack a certain "ooomph" factor and who ever leads the RNC has to be front and center reminding folks what conservatism is all about and how that translates to good policies for the country and most importantly, highlight the wasteful liberal policies that the Obama - Pelosi administration is going to try and push.

84

Lizzie, your centrist candidates win because they run right.

Our conservative candidates win because they run right.

Everyone wins when they run right.

McCain was a centrist. That worked out swell.

85 As far as I know, the RNC sets policy goals, raises money, allocates resources and helps get the message out.

Newt is a wonky guy, can go brassknuckles if he has to, and he is most remembered for distilling a Republican agenda down to a easily understandable itemized list. I like him in this role.

Honestly, I had never even heard of Mike Duncan (current RNC chair) until I just looked him up.

86

I don't think Gingrich has suggested we cave on the global warming issue. Instead he has said we should invest in the climate change message and offer solutions.

 

Yes, that s pretty close to what he said, but these is one overwhelming bad shit thing wrong with it. It surrenders to the lie that there is actual human caused global warming occurring. Once you surrender to that lie you have bought into the entire program.

 

All one has to do to understand what the real reason for this bullshit is is to look at the solutions. The Democraps want a carbon tax. The Republicrats want a carbon allocation and trading scheme, otherwise known as an influence peddling scheme. The last bill had BOTH in it.

 

The Dems see that issue as another front in the war to turn the U.S. from largely socialist to largely communist. The Republicans who support AGW and carbon trading are just a bunch of Duke Cunningham’s who haven’t been caught yet.

 

Look people, if there was a REAL problem caused by the release of CO2 to the atmosphere we would be rationing CO2 and energy to everyone and maintaining the price and taxes the same. Assholes like Albore and John Edwards wouldn’t be able to live in houses with an energy footprint the size of a small city and jet all over the globe.

87

Newt is the youth movement...  Of 15 years ago. He's spent the last decade sucking up to Hillary, Pelosi, and the Greenbats, and shows no sign of understanding the internet in general or blogs in particular.

We need Fred.

 

You must see the complete and absolute contradiction there. What decade is Fred the youth movement of? How good is his blogging kung-fu?

And Newt is not McCain. He hasn't spent the last decade sucking up to the left.

Lastly, what makes you think he'd even be interested? He didn't seem terribly committed to his Presidential bid.

88

I wouldn't mind Newt, despite his preposterously large ego.  But the truth is the position is far less important than building an organization like the left did that operates behind the scenes.

Dean was just a stooge, the public face of Soros' organization in the Dem party.  People didn't flock to Dean because he was such an inspirartional visionary.  They flocked to the Dem party because of the hundreds of millions the Soros organization funneled into the party.  If we want to compete in the future that's the kind of organization we have to build.

Soros was able to buy the Dem party thanks to McCain-Feingold.  Thanks, John.

89 Hello!  John Bolton.  What's he doing these days?  He needs a job and I know some people who need a serious ass kicking.  I believe that's just the business he's in.

90

Anyone see this douchebaggery personified quote from Kathleen Parker on Obama:

Then, in a column yesterday, she revealed that she wept on watching Obama declared the winner this past week. Parker concluded: "The little speck of difference that kept us imperceptibly apart had been dissolved in a lovely instant of national consensus that race no longer matters."

91

It surrenders to the lie that there is actual human caused global warming occurring. Once you surrender to that lie you have bought into the entire program.

 

Great. But the RNC chair has jack shit to do with whether the next AGW bill passes or not. If you want to block that, you need 40 conservative Senators. And they don't exist. So burning Newt at the stake for McCains vote is not going to advance conservatism one iota.

 

92 90 -- Parker has truly become a total tool...maybe she and Lizzie could share some Merlot.

93

Well, let me make a prediction.

Based on the previous trajectory of the GOP, the new RNC chair will be...

Lindsay Graham, part time while still serving in the senate.

I hear

94 I hear Ted Stevens might be available.

95

the truth is the position is far less important than building an organization like the left did that operates behind the scenes.

Newts been doing that with GOPAC. Unless you mean even further behind the scenes and want a shadowy network of billionaires who can secretly and illicitly funnel hundreds of millions of dollars to assorted right wing causes, like some Bizarro-Soros.

 

96

I am not flogging Newt so much as the idea that “getting a seat at the table” is not surrendering. He should shut up about AGW if he is going to be RNC chair.

97 I'll bet that Newt's position on climate change is just about as genuine as Obama's position on tax cuts.

98 Regarding his personal baggage, I don't think any cable news outlet will be bringing that up at every interview

If Newt once again becomes a major player in conservative politics and not just an occasional talking head on CNN, and if because of this, conservatives start doing major damage to the Messiah, you can be sure that Obama's flying monkeys in the MSM will drag up all of Newt's old shit and display it on every news outlet 24/7. Bet on it.

99

Newt is too self-serving and his stance on AGW is simply to ingratiate himself to certain interest groups. I vote "NO".

Fred..that's another story

100 One thing Newt has going for him is he can communicate in most any format or venue he is put in.   It's been a long time since the RNC has had someone who can articulate a message to the PRESSSSSident and the GOP Base. 

101 My dark horse for RNC Chair: Alex Polievant

102 On AGW, i think the pending studies which sync up sun spot activity and warming down to a tenth of one percent, controlling for other variables, will seriously shake the tenets of the AGW koolaid beliefs.

103

fred and mitt have already said 'no thanks'

 

we're running out of people to offer the job to, cuz nobody wants to be the guy who has to put the lipstick on the pig

104

On AGW, i think the pending studies which sync up sun spot activity and warming down to a tenth of one percent, controlling for other variables, will seriously shake the tenets of the AGW koolaid beliefs.

Nah.. they'll start claiming that our diseased planet is killing the sun.

ASS

Anthropogenic Sunspot Suppression.

105

Jones, I disagree.  Many folks out there still believe in small government individual liberty, and many folks out there are frothing at the mouth to get at the chance to rebuild this thing, ground up.  Clear out the deadwood that couldnt even get the damn base to the polls!!!

At least 5 million Bush voters just stayed home, man......fuck that.

106

Newts been doing that with GOPAC. Unless you mean even further behind the scenes and want a shadowy network of billionaires who can secretly and illicitly funnel hundreds of millions of dollars to assorted right wing causes, like some Bizarro-Soros.

That's exactly what I am talking about.  GOPAC is chump change to the kind of money that Soros and his pals sunk into the Dem party and they have been using it for years to not only hammer Republican candidates into submission but to fund the media and to build groups that appear to be independent grassroots organizations but are in reality well financed organs of a larger organization.  They have been astroturfing the country for years.

McCain-Feingold, which Soros was a major sort of, gave us this bizzare world where traditional Republican funding was outlawed but the Soros model thrives.  We can bitch about it all we want but that is the new reality and in politics, money is mother's milk.

If you don't believe it, remember who Soros' candidate in 2004 was.  Howard Dean.  Dean famously turned down public matching funds and said he could raise more in $100 increments online.  Money that was as hard to trace in 2004 as it is in 2008.  Does this model sound familiar?

Oh, and it was Soros who installed Dean at the DNC after his loss in the primary.

107 it needs to be Michael Steele

108 Just a thought. What about J.C. Watts?

109

Steele is pretty RINOish. I don't know why people who consider Newt a heretic would even consider Steele.

 

 

110 ousoonerfan15,

I like Steele at the moment as VP. I still want to know more about his recorded policies, but Palin/Steele '12 has a good vibe with me at the moment. Keep him out front and expand his profile, not buried on the back benches.

111

J.D. Hayworth.

Clearly whomever it is must have a first name consisting of two initials, the first of which is J.

Then we are set.

112 flenser: "Steele is pretty RINOish."

He is? Seems like he was pretty effective at articulating the Right position this year.

113

Ted Nugent. Nobody kicks more ass and gets more tail.

Aside from Dick Cheney, who's going into retirement.

114

WIth respect to Soros, and all the other left wing billionaires: they took over the Dem Party. It wasn't that the Dem Party had the brilliant idea of tapping them for money.

I don't think that right-wing counterparts exist. It's a historical fact that the very wealthy in America fund the Democratic Party. This was the case even before Soros appeared. It seems to be a fact of life that very rich people, at least the ones who care about politics, are on the political left. Right wing ultra wealthy people seem to exist only in left-wingers fantasies.

 

115

Entropy:

Funny re the AGW koolaid drinker response to the sunspot data, but seriously, that's the way to bring back the Newts et al of the world and centrists/independents.

You all see these al gore ads lately? Freaking scary propaganda selling this pie in the sky vision that all we have to do is say so and all fossil fuel use will be gone in 10 years.

It's unbelievable.

116

#50 Fred Thompson!

I was thinking this very thing while reading through the posts.  In any event, I am not so sure about Newt.  We seem to keep recycling the same old, tired people expecting a different outcome.  We need some fresh, strong, CONSERVATIVE people running this Titanic of a ship.  Granted, Thompson has been here for a while, but I very much agree with many of his ideals & principles. 

117

I'd say it needs to be either someone with some current pull like Newt or Fred or someone out of left field that can inspire the youth and be really media friendly.

 

118

Whoever the hell that dude was that ran the Twilight Zone Commercials.

You remember those commercials with the Leave it to Beaver ending? Did that guy ever win?

"The aliens are here, but they didn't come from space. They're flooding over a southern border by the million"

119

Clearly whomever it is must have a first name consisting of two initials, the first of which is J.

 

I'll consider it.

120 what is required in this post, an operator or a marketing type?  like corp. marketing e.g., messaging

121 Newt is not perfect, but he has ideas and can articulate them. Would prefer some new, young energy.

122

http://tinyurl.com/5jwy3n

Vernon Robinson

123

w2/wolverine:

I think it has to be a marketing position now. The GOP must get in the fight, take it to the Dems in all 50 states, dare i say like Dean's 50 state strategy in part.

The GOP has ignored NY state, California, Illinois...etc....this must end.

I agree Newt isn't perfect, but at least he's had the guts to be out there fighting for some conservative ideals in the media. Newt and Toffler go way back as well, Newt is on the cutting edge of technological developments.

124 Michael Steele please! He can appeal to the youth, minorities, Catholics, and actual conservatives!

125

The idea of appealing to minorities I think is a lost cause.

They just elected Obama.

Black vote is locked up tight for 30 years.

Even putting black people into positions of power in the next few years, they damn well better deserve it or it'll just be seen as a cheap token political ploy.

126

Even if they do deserve it'll be seen that way.

But that way it'd be worth fighting over it.

I don't think any of us know all the much about Steele. He's appealing in large part because he's black.

The guy, whatever good may be said of him, was a 1 time Lt Gov. He needs to actually win some races or something before we start promoting him.

127 Newt Gingrich?  What, Harold Stassen wasn't available?  Way to look to the future...

128 I don't think the qualifications for RNC Chairperson are quite the same as for Governorship, or what have you. 

I suppose I should stop being lazy and find out exactly what the RNC boss does.  If that job is define the party platform and organize the structure, I think Romney might be ideal.  Provided he isn't married to the RINOs and country-club wing.  Having a business minded person in that position might pay off more than another politician.

Also, those of you talking about the youth need to pull your heads out.  They didn't win for Obama.  Most people aren't interested in politics until they're ready to settle down with a family or buy a house and realize what kind of ass-raping they get from that FICA guy and his cronies listed on their paycheck.

129 I like Mike Steele.  He has been on Hannity & Colmes a lot the past year and is very articulate.  He was particularly good at attacking Obama and, let's face it, that took some courage.  I like Newt, but I think he should just keep doing what he's doing now.

130 I think Newt's point on GW is that it is mostly irrelevant and conservatives are hurting themselves in the public debate by arguing the point.  We MUST become energy independent, the chief benefit being we stop sending money to our enemies.  We can't make up for imported oil deficit with our own oil quickly, so we have to find other sources of alternative energy to replace oil.  That means chiefly on relying on less-CO2 producing energy - nuclear, wind, solar, and natural gas.  The point is the goal is the same: get off the oil teat.  We just have to make sure we find a free-market solution, not a socialist solution.  That is the real fight.

131

To all the idgits saying Newt is old-blood, blah, blah, blah...  Hey retards, he knows how to win.  Old blood that knows how to win and articulate conservative principles is just fine with me.

 

What has Steele done?  What PACs has he run?  Has he written any books?  I've heard him fill in for Salem radio hosts on occasion and, to me, he didn't do  avery good job talking about conservative plicies or ideas.

132

I am not so keen on Newt.  He is a brilliant guy, and while I agree with him on the AGW issue (please don't hurt me), he was the leader of yesterday's revolution.  Fred - are you kidding me?  He has about as much energy as a corpse.  We need someone who is willing to build a broader base not by "reaching out to centrists" (i.e. caving), but by converting the wishy-washy middle to OUR SIDE.  We need someone who is willing not just to copy Obama's fundraising model but build upon it and make it better.  But, most importantly, we need someone whom we can get excited about.  Someone that we can point to and say "I may not agree with him 100% but I know that his heart is in the right place and he's moving the Republican Party in the direction that it ought to go."  And, personally, it should be a person who has enjoyed more success than failure in his political life.  It's great to want a guy like Newt because of his iconic position but, let's be honest, his departure from Congress was ignominious and will forever haunt him.

IMO that narrows it down to a rather short list: Coburn, DeMint, Shadegg, Flake.

Thoughts?

133

And that includes Karl Rove. We need him free to use his mind control ray to drive Democrats crazy.

What did Rove do for the GOP? Don't laugh...I know he was good for George Bush, but the GOP? Immigration....NCLB....spending...stop me when we get to the "conservative" part.

I value his opinion as a strategist, but I don't mistake him for a guy who actually gives a crap about the Right or the party.

134 Oh Jebus.  Here we go again with all of the obsessive criticism about who is/isn't good enough.

Here's an idea;  let the fucking media choose you candidate for you, - worked like a charm last time.

135

IMO that narrows it down to a rather short list: Coburn, DeMint, Shadegg, Flake.

Thoughts?

RNC chair is a full time job and not volunteer work.  So forget about elected officials.  There may be ethics rules involved as well (similar to lobbyists).

136

Well, global warming legislation is a lead pipe cinch to pass next year, and the GOP Presidential nominee is a bigger supporter of it than Obama, so it's odd to me that people are willing to toss Newt on that basis.

flenser is on a roll...

If not Newt, who? And not Rove, who squander GOP popularity to serve his guy W.

I want a person who can articulate conservative principles up and down the line, connect the dots, and frame the issue in a way that favors our position and puts the Dems on the defensive. And he won't need cue cards to do it.

Maybe Chairman is too high profile. But I want him around somehow.

137 How about Jindal?

138

Chemjeff - Jindal is not going to do it - he didnt want VP, sure doesn't want RNC Chair.

How about Michelle Bachmann? She is the one GOP House member who had the "balls" to call Obama out about his anti-America roots.

 

139 Michael Steele

Supports affirmative action.

Q: Do you think the time for affirmative action is past?

A: Absolutely not. We're just beginning to rediscover what we should be doing with affirmative action. Don't look at our universities. We got that. Let's look at our boardrooms, let's look at the management structure.
Source: Len Lazarick, The Examiner, "Power of the individual" Apr 28, 2006


Personally opposed to the death penalty


Q: Should people have access to buy assault weapons?

A: Society should draw lines. What do you need an assault weapon for, if you're going hunting? That's overkill. But I don't think that means you go to a total ban for those who want to use gun for skeet shooting or hunting or things like that But what's the point of passing gun laws if we're not going to enforce them? If you want to talk about gun control, that's where you need to start. We've got 300 gun laws on the books right now. At the end of the day, it's about how we enforce the law.


Michael Steele stumped for liberal incumbent Rep. Wayne Gilchrest against conservative state Sen. Andy Harris in a primary. So did Gingrich by the way.

He doesn't think we a total ban?

Gee that's reassuring!

140 CJ-Rove would be awesome, man, but he wont do it. Rove is the only guy since Reagan to grab two GOP terms, my friend.

141 does anyone remember the name of the guy that gave that great speech on the floor about how wrong the bailout was?
 shoot...it was Mc something [not mccain you dolts]
 anyone?
 john bolton would be good. we need someone who isn't afraid to do some serious ass kicking, instead of hand licking.

142

CJ-Rove would be awesome, man, but he wont do it. Rove is the only guy since Reagan to grab two GOP terms, my friend.

geoff, Rove hasn't shown an ability to get Republican(s) elected. Just one. By 537 votes and a Supreme Court decision. And as a result of an unprecedented attack on the U.S. and the accompanying rally-around-the-prez.  And he had to sacrifice a ton of party principle just to do that.

He's a sharp, a good tactician. But he sold us down the river. Pay him a consultant's fee just to get his input on Xs and Os, but keep him away from policy.

143 Global Warming really doesn't need to be tossed in here.

The Newt of 1994 was a great guy and deserves a lot of credit and gratitude for what he did.

Newt Gingrich post 1996 is a very different story.  The Republican Party has swerved away from 1994, but we swerved away when he was still in power, not afterward.  He lost his spine in fighting the Dems and the media while he was still the Speaker of the House and bears at least some of the responsibility for setting us down the road we're currently on.

Plus, to not be concerned about people bringing up his personal baggage you'd have to be of the opinion that's those scandals are over. If they are, great - but after cheating on wife number 1 & 2, I wouldn't say that's a sure bet.

Toss aside the basic moral issues - the guy had to have known that cheating on his wife would put both him and the party in a very dangerous position (in fact it's always been a hunch of mine, that's why he lost his spine--the Democrats had dirt on him).  And yet he did it anyway.  That guy should not be given the reins of the Republican Party.

I actually did like the guy and he's always insightful to hear when he's talking at a roundtable or giving a speech, but this man should not be given a leadership position again.

144
The 1990's called.

And they laughed their asses off at the thought of Newt as the RNC chair.

145 A planning-board type job is best for Newt.  That is where he is best.

146

If they are, great - but after cheating on wife number 1 & 2, I wouldn't say that's a sure bet.

Two? Dang. Nevermind.

Shit we need some GOP thinkers.

147 Yes, please make Newt head of the RNC.  He's brilliant and genuinely interested in the long term success of the Republican Party and the country.  A principled conservative, he'll stear us away from any  pernicious neo-con RINO amnesty loving bullshit.  It will be a relief to kick Karl Rove and Dubya's sorry asses out of any role of influence in the GOP.  Those two turkeys have been ruinous to the Republican party.

148

The 1990's called. And they laughed their asses off at the thought of Newt as the RNC chair.

And they asked that you stop stealing their cutting edge humor.

149 M'kay. Lotsa idears.

Here's my stupid one: The Mayor.

Brilliant. Honest. Experienced. Articulate.

I'da loved it if we had had a Giuliani/Obama race, and in second-guessing, I think Giuliani would have field stripped the carcass of the Dem effort.

What are the values of the Republican party? Up toward the top should be the shared belief that the role of government is NOT to pick winners and losers. What do carbon taxes do? Pick winnners and losers. What are the efforts to prop up Freddie, Fannie and AIG propose to do? Pick winners and losers. What do energy mandates do? Pick winners and losers.

Let's get away from government that runs by Chinatown rules. Let's get back to government where competition for investment dollars drives economic activity.

Immigration? Enforce the law. Energy exploration? change the law to allow for increasing reliance on American resources. Business investment? Get rid of the capital gains tax and the inheritence tax. Benefits for the lower- and middle-class? Create new job opportunities through increased investment opportunities and the reduction of bureaucratic redtape and regulation. Lower housing prices? Reduce unneeded environmental and development barriers. End environmental excess? Remove federal funding for conservation groups. We spend billions of federal dollars each year giving money to these environauts so that they can "educate" us. End the excess.

Repeal McCain-Feingold.

There. That's about everything.
.

150

That guy should not be given the reins of the Republican Party.

 

It's the fucking RNC chair, not "the reins of the Republican Party". Deep breaths, people. Clear your heads.

 

 

151

Newt would signal a return to assertive, principled, conservatism.  The only reason it hasn't worked lately is that it disappeared from the playbook when the RINOs took the field.

Look, conservatives are what you hopefully become when you get a job and grow up, but we keep running candidates who are trying to be pander-meisters, but who are not corrupt enough to pander really effectively in the Dem big-leagues.

Proclaim principles that appeal to grownups who have integrity, run on them, win on them.  Sound familiar?

152 It's the fucking RNC chair, not "the reins of the Republican Party". Deep breaths, people. Clear your heads.

If he wants an adviser or consultant position, cool, but I really don't trust him with anything more - reins, chair, etc.

153 "How good is his blogging kung-fu?"

Dude, he's a moron.  End of discussion.

"Newt would signal a return to assertive, principled, conservatism.  The only reason it hasn't worked lately is that it disappeared from the playbook when the RINOs took the field."

Uh, what?  Newt went RINO himself...  That's the problem.

Rudy...  Maybe.

154

I like Mike Steele.  He has been on Hannity & Colmes a lot the past year and is very articulate.

Duuuuude......dude... dude.

Not cool.

 

 

Take that kinda talk back to stormfront.

155 i guess i'm willing to serve as the RNC chairman too....if you need me to pop a gitmo terrorist i'll do it....and any rinos that get out of line.

156

 it should be a person who has enjoyed more success than failure in his political life.

 

Why do I get the feeling I'm gonna have to go to the grave of Ronald Reagan at the next full moon and bring him back from the dead in a hideous Satanic ritual involving the sacrifice of some young virgin?

And why do I get the feeling that even after I go to all that trouble, and throw away a perfectly good virgin (do you know how scarce they are getting these days?), all I'll hear from some of you is "He's too 1980's, he's not internet savvy, he signed a tax increase, he appointed SDO, and what about that amnesty?".

 

157 Newt would be an excellent choice.

The Republican party is hemorrhaging, it's that simple. It has become decoupled from voters minds and is no longer providing the big ideas which will make a voter say, 'Hey, that makes sense, I agree with that... that will improve my life'.

We are losing significantly in certain demographic sub-groups due to the absolute intellectual atrophy that has occurred during the last 4 years and peaked with the McCain campaign's approach to 2008.

Bush won the some-college/college educated demographic by 11% in 2004, Obama has closed this to parity. Colorado, Virginia, Florida are all going to shift with this demographics.

From my brief interaction with him, Newt is intellectually curious and brilliant at articulating solutions by coupling conservative policies to common-sense logic that resonates with voters.

158 Don't they [no. not "we"] have anyone besides these old, failed re-treads?!? [cuz we did so well with the last one, see...] Where's the young conservative blood?

159 No Newt. Anybody who would sit smiling with Hillary fussing about the cooked-up science fiction crisis global warming crap (called weather) is UNACCEPTABLE!

He'd be a nasty disaster. But, hey, the GOP is a disaster, so that's the norm.

There is really nobody right now that can do the job. We got nothin'.

160 Let's all agree: There are probably some young Newts out there (history professors like Newt? Maybe not) that we haven't even heard of yet.. They'll emerge. I am confident.

161 I'm thinking Ann Coulter.

I'd love that!

162 The Republican Party needs a new grand philosopher. More along the lines of a hands-on WFB; who illuminates the path but lets others lead along it.

Michael Steele seems like a good fellow and may be organizationally strong, but that can come later... Ace wants his schwerpunkt first.

For conservatives, the saddest part is that 14 years later, we're still relying on the same man.

163 161 I'm thinking Ann Coulter.

Oh hell, why not?  I'm not even arguing about whether she'd be good or whether she'd be bad - but if we're going to go down, let's at least make this entertaining.

164
The Newt of 2008 isn't anything like the Newt of 1994.

Today's Newt is all about how the Democrat diner has the best meals in town, although they could be made a bit better with a small packet of conservatism sprinkled on top.

I'd rather stay hungry.

165

Without a leader who 'gets it' our efforts to rebuilt the party will be valiant but futile.
To that end, I think we need to draft Newt Gingrich to be RNC Chair:
1. He embraces the use of new technology
2. He shows he 'gets it' when it comes to leveraging grassroots networked movements, as shown by his American Solutions effort.
3. He is the most articulate spokesman we have and is high-profile enough to be able to represent the face of the Republican Party and carry some weight. He is a recognizable figure to unify the GOP that has no natural leader at this time. He can go toe-to-toe on Sunday talk shows, can and is already a draw for audiences.
4. Being an outsider of the past 8 years and a critic of Bush administration, he is not tainted by administration's failures and subsequent unpopularity. He has critiqued the execution of the Iraq war, opposed the bailout, and been critical of administration on spending and immigration. In short, he stands with the people on issues that the Bush WH lost popular support over.
5. He has never wavered from solid conservative principles, taking popular and correct stands, on drilling, on the bailout, on spending, on fixing Iraq, on immigration. He has credibility with the Republican base.

6. He engineered the 1994 victory, and 2010, in our best-case scenario, could and should be a similar repeat. Who better to win in this situation than to bring out the man who won this type of battle before.

Most critics of Gingrich will say "oh, we need a new face" but in fact, Gingrich, like Churchill, has had his 'wilderness' years. Most conservatives WANT the tried-and-true Reagan formula, and they want a leader they can trust not to waver from those principles. They want us to return to the principles that won Reagan the white house and the GOP the Congress. I cannot disagree. When I think of the GOP core principles, I come back to the Reagan formula as the principles to stand on.

Gingrich knows that, and he won't wobble as others have from articulating a consistent conservative message. BUT ALSO HAS SPENT HIS LIFETIME TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE. It is a rare and valuable combination that we need at this time. If the GOP stays as stuck-in-the-muds, we lose; if we shed our principles to chase futuristic butterflies, we lose too. Gingrich is unafraid to embrace the future while adhering to core conservative political principles.

We need new conservative leadership in the GOP and we need it NOW - in the RNC! Newt Gingrich is our man.

Draft Newt Gingrich to lead the RNC.

166 OK, fuck it. I'll take the Ring to Mordor I mean the shitty RNC job in DC.

The purges start Day One. Hire me at the RINO's peril.

167

Karl Rove

Fred Thompson

Michael Steele

Duncan Hunter

Rick Santorum

Please, anybody but Newt.   While he has contributed much to the Party and I respect him, Newt doesn't represent true Conservative values, principles and ideals very well.  He's a Washington insider and  might not want to ruffle any feathers.  (Much like McCain.)        The Republican Party would just be back to square one and would lose many supporters.  Sigh.

168 yesterdays revolution is todays revolution. Newt came up with the only narrative that kept the GOP in the game "drill here and drill now". Dems fear him because he is brillant and is able to put these ideas down and have us morons back it up. Even Obama had to change his view on drilling. I think he did the global warming bit to keep the gop from being viewed as a dinosaur, plus to convince people to drill, ya gotta say you are going to look at alternatives. He s the man to go after this socialism beast before us, plus love to see him match his wits against commie Ayers/Obama thinking. As far as the bailout I not so sure he was asked to change his mind, maybe we don't realize how bad it's going to get. He didn't like it but perhaps under the current frame, coming elections and the way are systems is setup that waiting until something was agreed upon may have been to late economically.

169 Hey, I like the Ann Coulter idea!  :-)

170

"Newt would signal a return to assertive, principled, conservatism.  The only reason it hasn't worked lately is that it disappeared from the playbook when the RINOs took the field."

Dittos. as in 'no s888 sherlock'

Look, conservatives are what you hopefully become when you get a job and grow up, but we keep running candidates who are trying to be pander-meisters, but who are not corrupt enough to pander really effectively in the Dem big-leagues.

Proclaim principles that appeal to grownups who have integrity, run on them, win on them.  Sound familiar?"

YES. I SEEM TO RECALL WE DID IT IN 1994. ... Oh, and who was the guy who ran that way???? ... oh yea, Newt somebody.

171 "yesterdays revolution is todays revolution. Newt came up with the only narrative that kept the GOP in the game "drill here and drill now". Dems fear him because he is brillant and is able to put these ideas down and have us morons back it up. Even Obama had to change his view on drilling. I think he did the global warming bit to keep the gop from being viewed as a dinosaur, plus to convince people to drill, ya gotta say you are going to look at alternatives."

SPOT ON.

Let's make it clear - the ONLY GOP campaign success in 2008/2006 cycles was something NEWT started with grassroots help - DRILL HERE DRILL NOW - and he's not even an elected official or in the RNC.

It's sad that you see how Newt can run rings around the Dems, and 10X more effective that the doofus RNCC and RNSC and RNC and McCain campaign, ... but because he is operating at a higher level than some simplistic thinkers, they dont get it.

STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM.

172

  161 I'm thinking Ann Coulter.

Only if she starts drinking Sanka.

My vote is for Laura Ingram.

173 "While he has contributed much to the Party and I respect him, Newt doesn't represent true Conservative values, principles and ideals very well."

Oh, for fuck's sake.  Casting out real RINO's is one thing, but you'd have the purges continue until there was no one left.  Zombie Reagan, as much as we invoke him on here, DOESN'T ACTUALLY EXIST.  If there's anyone (alive and non-fictional) who represents conservative principles well, it's the guy who got the GOP back in control of Congress for the first time in 40 years.

174 Can we also have Gingrich denounce creationism, and retract his support for Jindal in any federal office?

175 "Also, those of you talking about the youth need to pull your heads out.  They didn't win for Obama.  Most people aren't interested in politics until they're ready to settle down with a family or buy a house and realize what kind of ass-raping they get from that FICA guy and his cronies listed on their paycheck."

Yes and no. The youth vote wasnt much higher than normal. OTOH, Obama did get an enormous amount of it.

We have to work on that.

One solution to that may be the "carter effect": Obama's socialism will leave us with a crappy economy for the next four years, and the youth will have their eyes opened.

176 141 does anyone remember the name of the guy that gave that great speech on the floor about how wrong the bailout was?
 shoot...it was Mc something [not mccain you dolts]
 anyone?

Thad McCotter?   keep an eye out for him..  out of Warren Michigan..
you'll be seeing more of him..

I hope he goes to on to a Senate seat.. someone needs to kick out Stabenow(the empty skirt) and Levin (librarian glasses)

177 Yeah lets get Newt in charge so he can stand up with Hillary Clinton and talk about how we need socialized medicine, then go on about global warming. Yeah, we need that.

178 What about Jack or John Ryan?  the Senator that was ousted by his divorse scandal and Obama was able to do a cake walk into that Senate seat..

or George Allen?  or will Macaca haunt him?

179 "Can we also have Gingrich denounce creationism, and retract his support for Jindal in any federal office?"

Are you a lib-troll? That's the kind of divisive shoot-our-own ciruclar-firing-squad BS that will keep us in the wilderness for eons. Gingrich the wannabe paleontologist has his own views, but has bigger fish to fry than poking sharp sticks in the eyes of fundies.

Jindhal is an awesome Governor and will make a fantastic President should we be lucky enough to have him get nominated and win.

180
5. He has never wavered from solid conservative principles, taking popular and correct stands, on drilling, on the bailout, on spending, on fixing Iraq, on immigration. He has credibility with the Republican base.

I notice you left out Global Warming and Universal Health Care. Newt has adopted the Leftist solutions to both "problems". After watching Newt gleefully consume huge portions of Hillary and Pelosi hairpie, I cannot support him as the RNC chair.

181

Hotair  has a poll:

Gingrich vs Steele   http://tinyurl.com/6auw9s

182 I'd never have guessed that David Ross was an American Prospect reader. Boy, I need a stiff drink after a shock like that.

183

I notice you left out Global Warming and Universal Health Care. Newt has adopted the Leftist solutions to both "problems".

 

Well, no, that's not true. A bit careless with the facts, aren't you.

 

184 His point on universal health care is we already have it in the form of medicaid ."Created in 1965, Medicaid was a program designed to serve the poor, the disabled and low-income seniors". Though as he states that Medicaid is rife with fraud and corruption, listen we are already paying for this. It is already being implemented and it's not going away. It needs to be revamped so much is being wasted as usual. Read Newts " A Vision for a 21st Century Medicaid Solution"

185 I like Newt for this spot.  He can articulate our positions clearly and concisely.  He won't please absolutely everyone all the time, but he will put together a winning coalition with a winning set of ideas.

And, oh yeah, the idea that he is going to be trashed by the MSM and the Dems (but I repeat myself) -- anyone who is seen as helping us win will be trashed by them.  As Hillary might say (though she was fibbing when she said it about herself), at least Newt has been fully vetted.

186

#49 Ann November 10,2008 05:45PM

Bingo!

Rick Santorum

Newt, same old, same old.

187 Gingrich?  His books suck, turgid Harry Turtledove rehashes.

188

All I want is someone who will:

A) kick ass

B) win

C) deport all the communists to cuba

D) have a manly square jaw

E) get rid of the department of education and privatize the post office

F) nuke Iran

G) drill straight through Vancouver to Siberia and steal all the russians oil

F) have a parade full of chicks in bikinis with submachineguns in DC.

Is that too much  to ask?

189

"Can we also have Gingrich denounce creationism, and retract his support for Jindal in any federal office?"

 

Dude, go to Little Green Footballs.  That site specializes in denigrating the beliefs of Christians.

 

190 Reggie1971, not Christians; just Christians who failed bio

191 We CANNOT be a part of perpetuating the global warming hoax. CANNOT.

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I like Newt if he can win. If he loses us another election, I'll deny I ever supported him.

Works for Democrats.

193 David, so all Christians who support the suggestion that our universe is a product of willful design rather than accident failed bio?  Please elaborate.

194 David Ross, I believe in evolution, so don't think I'm just covering for Creationists, but is that your 'Really Important Issue'? We're in a war, the economy is dire, we've elected Obama. Aren't there more important issues than Creationism right now?

195

adolfo, no way. The time to kick these frauds out of the Republican Party is now, before the general election comes around and my only choices are Jindal and Obama.

Imagine 2012. TV is on, you see an "important message": a few Nobel Prize laureates (esp. biology) say - in the spirit of bipartisanship! - that our country needs to support science education to retain (or regain) our position as global leader.

It'll be a "Vote For The Crook, It's Important" moment, nationwide.

Jindal, Gingrich, Perry, and others like them need this chained around their neck.

196

I'd rather vote for someone who believed in Creationism than someone who believes in Marxism.

It wouldn't surprise me if Creationism is actually a net vote gainer. Just saying.

197 adolfo, then, why wait to vote for either? Better to clean the Republican slate now, before we're stuck with 'em.

198

Actually Jindal is a brilliant candidate and hopefully will get the nomination.  Creationism was not an issue of any note whatsoever this year.  Besides, the small percentage of people who base their vote primarily on that issue are going to vote overwhelmingly for Democrats anyway.

 

Jindal in 2012!

199 P.S.  You do realize that jindal has a degree in biology from Brown University, don't you?  That along with a Masters Degree in political science as a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford.  Simply because you believe in ID doesn't mean you are an uneducated hick who is anti-science.   But again, few really care about this as a political issue, albeit it's something that the anti-ID crew at Little Green Footballs obsess over.  The suggestion that the party's major players and brightest stars are going to be cleared out of the party over this is absurd.

200 Did Fred really pass on this?  Ugh.

201 Plus, to not be concerned about people bringing up his personal baggage you'd have to be of the opinion that's those scandals are over. If they are, great - but after cheating on wife number 1 & 2, I wouldn't say that's a sure bet.

Does anyone ever remember people outside of a party giving much of a shit about a party chair?  Me either.  The media might bring it up for two seconds, who cares? He isn't running for office.  The point is, can he organize the party, can he raise money, can he focus the message, focus the policy, can he allocate funds and resources where they are needed, can he pull the party back to where it needs to be, can he win?

Newt can do a lot of that, probably more than most.  I would be alright with it.

202 Does anyone ever remember people outside of a party giving much of a shit about a party chair?  Me either.

When we've got a bunch of people we can be pretty confident aren't going to be involved in a scandal like that, why the hell take a risk on somebody who might be?

People gave a shit when some random member of the House was involved in scandal a couple years ago. They gave a shit when some Senator of the Republican Party was involved in a sex scandal.  Do you seriously think for a second that if we have the RNC Chair involved involved in this it won't be blasted all over the news repeatedly?  Are you kidding?  How the hell do we attack Democrats when we do not merely excuse this stuff, but justify it beforehand?  How the hell do we portray ourselves as having any high ground?  Even if you don't give a shit about that high ground, voters will and the Democrats will be all over it.

Besides that, I don't see a reason for vesting in Newt Gingrich any sort of organizational skill, fundraising ability, etc. that we can't find among a bunch of other people.

Can he do a lot of that? -- um, I guess (though I don't see how he has an particularly exceptional record raising money, at least compared to others we could get)

Can we count on him to do all of that stuff? -- Not really.

Can we count on him to buckle under to appease the media and tell Republicans not to fight with Democrats over stuff like spending? -- given the way he handled the budget fights, that's far more likely.

Can we count on him to spend a couple years in office forgetting what people put him there to do in the first place? -- How much of the Contract With America even passed the House?

Read Tom Coburn's book about his time in the House, "Breach of Trust," and then tell me what you think of Gingrich.

203 Cool, let me know when you find Mr. Perfect.

204 49 What about Rick Santorum? 

I'm with ya Ann... Rick's a class act with the right values ...

I'd love to watch Ann Coulter hack away at the Dem's but it wouldn't necessarily put any more conservatives in congressional seats ...

Laura Ingrahm ... hmmm

Newt ... a reluctant .... no 

205 Heh Davis Ross, thanks for giving us the Libertarian wing's viewpoint. After all, people who actually believe in God are lunatics, purge them!

Cool, let me know when you find Mr. Perfect.

How about just Mr "doesn't suck."

206

I really like Mike Steele he would have been a great VP pick, not that I didn't like Palin but Mike is steady and rock solid and he doesn't whine he just sticks to the facts.  To me he is so much more intelligent than OB1 and more of a bulldog with a sneaky bite that you feel you just don't know where it came from. 

Why didn't Steele run instead of OB1 he would have made a great first black President with more class in his little toe than OB1's entire universe.

damn!

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