1 Thanks Carl, thanks for clearing that up.

Next time, engage brain before mouth, rinse and repeat.

2 I knew it! Carl hung around with the McCain people too long and was suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.

3 Is it just me or is Fox News going more left?  Shepard Smith was always a tool, but, really, Carl Cameron used to be one of the good guys.  You could count on him to play it straight.  But when you look at the initial video where he "reported" all this crap on Palin, his voice is dripping with condescension.

4 It's almost as if, with a Democrat administration coming to power, reporters are changing their points of view, or "biases," if you will...

5 If 55 million people would vote with their tv sets and turn FOX off for a couple of months, maybe they would get "it".  Carl's snipes are now in the lexicon of America.  What a jerk.  Write Fox and ask for his removal.

Where was any investigative reporting?  Palestra deserves a Pulitzer and the rest deserve rasberries and pie in the face.

6 O'Reilly was trying to build up an official controversy about Palin, then he graciously invited her onto his show to refute it.  What a tool.  The only show worth watching on FNC these days is Red Eye.

7

It's almost as if, with a Democrat administration coming to power, reporters are changing their points of view, or "biases," if you will...

 

Ahem.

RaaaaAAAAAACIST!

That is all.

Oh, hope you don't have any government records you didn't want checked up on, Klanny McGoober.

8 Is it just me or is Fox News going more left?  Shepard Smith was always a tool, but, really, Carl Cameron used to be one of the good guys.  You could count on him to play it straight.  But when you look at the initial video where he "reported" all this crap on Palin, his voice is dripping with condescension.


Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 10, 2008 02:18 PM (epqk/)


Have you forgotten the glee with which Cameron also smeared Fred Thompson back in the primaries?

And O'Reilly seems to have been getting more and and more toolish himself for quite a while now.

And Geraldo... ugh.

Brit Hume will be leaving, to be replaced by Glenn Beck... not that I have anything against Beck, but that seems like a shitty trade.

Hannity will still be around, but he's so goddam smug and repetitive that I can barely stand to listen to him even when he's trying to make a good point.

9 Hey, where did the "Wanted: Al Queda guy" go from the side of this blog?  I've seen that there forever.  Does this mean he was captured?  If so, this is great news.  The election of Obama is already paying dividends in fighting and winning the war on terror!!

10 Brit Hume will be leaving, to be replaced by Glenn Beck... not that I have anything against Beck, but that seems like a shitty trade.

Amen. 

11 The only show worth watching on FNC these days is Red Eye.
That and "Gretta and Friends", or the weekend version "Allison and Friends".
Primetime Fox hasn't been on my vid for the last couple of years.

12 Oh yeah... and there's Red Eye, which has to be on at three o'clock in the fucking morning for some reason.

13 Palin will overcome this smear.  As for Cameron, he'll alsways be a douche.

14 Really, yall, we need to stuff Fox's inbox with complaints.  My wife and I have sent two.  I'm preparing a new one on O'Reilly's defense of himself to Greta here.

Hammer them. They count emails and they make a difference.

Oh, and O'Reilly is an a-hole more than a tool, just for the record.

15 Wonder Woman costume. Pass it on.

16 Oh yeah... and there's Red Eye, which has to be on at three o'clock in the fucking morning for some reason.

Well, it is called "Red Eye."
Just sayin'.

17 Ever see that clip of Carl right before an interview with President Bush went on the air? (From a lefty movie about Fox, skip past the BS and see Carl kissing ass at about 53 seconds in).

Bush : Things are good. Your family?

Cameron : Very good. My wife has been hanging out with your sister.

Bush : Yeah, good.

Cameron : She's been all over the state campaigning, and Pauline has been constantly with her.

Bush : Yeah, Doro is a good person.

Cameron : Oh, and she's terrific. When she first started campaigning for you, she was a little bit nervous, but now she's up there-

Bush : Getting her stride?

Cameron : She doesn't need notes, she's going to crowds and she's got the whole riff down.

Cameron is connected with some GOP pols, and must be carrying water for someone on Palin. 

18 If 55 million people would vote with their tv sets and turn FOX off for a couple of months, maybe they would get "it".

They lost me months ago.  The only one worth wacthing there is any more Megyn Kelly and even she isn't worth sitting through the stupidity that Fox News has become.

Body language experts?  Really?  Do I actually need to watch her analyze Rosie O'Donnell's every move?  Really??  This is News?  Really???

19 Carl's "oops-my bad" attitude is no different than the WashPost ombudswoman saying "oops-our bad we didn't vet Obama" in her letter Friday.

These journa-hacks want to kick bloggers because we don't have to behold to their j-school standards - but they don't even do it themselves.

They're the professionals with big fat checks and attorneys. They don't get forgiven. They get fired.

20 BOR is an ass of the highest order. Me thinks there's some CYA going on now. I'm about through with Fox. It hasn't been fair or balanced this election season at all. Maybe it's been better than the alphabets, but not by a whole lot. Screw the lot of them. Bring on the new media.

21

O�Reilly has long been an asshole on Fox and I have NEVER considered him a conservative. It appears from what Greta said, and possibly what Carl Cameron was hinting at, was that the people who gave him the story were LIARs. They were either primary liars or just story repeater liars and Cameron KNEW this from the start.

 

And to answer the question posed above about Fox drifting to the left the ANSWER is a resounding YES. Look, they have NEVER been conservative as the left likes to make out.  They have some people who tend to be conservative (a very few like Brit Hume), they have some Neo-cons like Fred Barns, and they have a bunch of liberals. In addition to the reporters and the pundits who tilt one way or another, they get their stories from AP which is part of the liberal MSM. Nuff said there.

 

They like to make the claim �fair and Balanced� which they demonstrate by interviewing a Republican (normally a Neocon liberal) and a Democrat (normally a communist). And that is not fair and balanced, it is stupid because all you get is Party hack talking points.

 

And on top of all that since Oboma got elected they have gone into the ass kissing mode for him. I am done with them until the ass kising is gone.

22 O'Reilly was and should be embarrassed. He should also know by now why he will not get Gov. Palin. He can go to hell with Cameron.

23

I wish I still watched Fox or any other cable news so I could boycott it now.

Wonder Woman costume. Pass it on.

That was after he washed himself in the shower with one of O'Reilly's loofas, right?

24 Hate to admit it, but Greta is in the right here.  And I mean I REALLY hate to admit it.  An old Democrat lady who spends five hours a week talking about boring-ass court cases and nothing else, and I'm forced to support her.

O'Reilley really screwed the pooch on this one.

25 SUPREME COURT JUSTICE SOUTER ORDERS OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH CERTIFICATE DECEMBER 1 This is interesting. Souter tells Obama to produce the vault copy by December 1, 2008. I believe the messiah will defy the Justices.

http://tinyurl.com/5r3maw

26

Fox is actually worse than the alphabet stations, because they sell themselves as fair and balanced, but don't deliver.  The whole episode of the Palin smear was discussed more on Fox than on any other stations.  Cavuto is good and Megan and Julie and Greg Jarrett, but I really can't watch that station anymore.

27 Hey now, Jim. I have that costume and I'm not afraid to use my lasso.

The news guys are all douches.

28 He thinks he messed up because his bullshit came back to bite him in the ass. Fuck him. And fuck BOR, too. Go Greta!

29 I tried talking to my parents about this and they think Oreilly is a god and think that CA is just turning me into a liberal since I don't like him. 

I guess the young aren't the only ones easily persuadable, or maybe the old are just too stubborn to realize that Bill is not the oreilly that they though they knew.

30 Is it just me or is Fox News going more left?

You're correct. I won't watch it. I got rid of the television. If any jerk shows up on talk radio, I turn it off and email the station manager why I will not listen.

31

Campaign Carl is only admitting this under duress, because Treacher has photos of him in his Wonder Woman costume.

32 Bill O is jealous of Greta.  She gets an hour long interview with Palin tonight and Bill was practically begging Sarah to come on his show and he got NOTHING. 

33 Bill O'Reilly is such a tool that he should have "Craftsman" tattooed on his forehead.  And his radio "guest host," Michael Smerconish, is an even bigger one.  The Philly "conservative" talk station 1210-AM has been going liberal for months now.  All the local toads are spewing Obama crap.

34 Canceled Fox News and refuse to visit the web site.
My life is much better now.

35 Bill's had a man crush on Obama for the longest time now. As far as I am concerned, Sean Hannity is the only reason (well, Greta ain't that bad most of the time) to watch FNC.

36

I have just one polite request for Big News:

Die Faster, Please.

37 And his radio "guest host," Michael Smerconish, is an even bigger one.

Turn him off and send the station an email stating you have done so and that you find him unacceptable to fill in.

38

Well as long as we're cleaning out the stables at Fox News--old Fair and Balanced Bill O'Reilly with his no spin zone is just as smug as Hannity. O'Reilly has some pet hobbyhorses he rides that make me think there's a moron behind that manic smile.

 

Colmes and Cameron can hold hands and go off into the night.

And I'll admit I have been surprised by Greta Van Susteren.  Agree she's an old Democratic lawyer who has wasted a lot of time talking about dead blondes on Caribbean beachs--but she's pretty much got it right about Palin.

39 Greta has been great from the start with regard to Palin. It's most likely because of her true feminism and fairness, not because she isn't liberal any more. That's different from the haters that use feminism as a substitute for abortion promotion.

Red Eye is easily one of the best shows on TV, let alone on FOX.

DVR + Red Eye = A very happy yomomma

40 Bill is an arrogant ass and Shep is a flaming douche. Cavuto and Red Eye are the only things worth watching, but I'm dumping tv on Jan 21. The only reason I'm keeping it that long is to see GWB wave his goodbyes. I've liked Greta more in the last few months but soon she'll go back to the boring stuff. Hannity is annoying and difficult to even listen to, and they always have that tub Bob Beckel on.

Red Eye is free on hulu.com, Rush is free on the radio and Gibson is free through the FOX website. As long as Ace doesn't start charging I'm all set.

41 Mr. O'Reilly: I really don't give a phuck about your latest book "A Bold Fresh Piece of Shite" or whatever it's called, and neither does Sarah Palin. The reason Sarah has not allowed you to interview her is because you are a totally irrelevant, self-centered knackerless wanker.

42

There is a Divine priciple to remember

God draws good from evil ... or God Draws with a crooked hand

The big picture ... By smearing Palin they reveal themselves for what they are and they make her ultimately a saint. Now they will be de-rooted from the trenches.

Just remember how the Palin smear always backfired in September until McCain tossed the towel .. ummm ... across the aisle.

 

43

That was hilarious listen to Bill screaming, "It's not gossip!!!" at Greta when that's exactly what it is, of course.  With Bill, though, it's always about Bill, 100% of the time.  He's just concerned with defending his boneheaded decision to let Cameron go forth with that crap ("Oh!  Bill, she threw temper tantrums!  And she's a shopaholic!!  Oh, and most shocking of all, was wearing a bathrobe in her hotel toom!!!  Oh!!!!").  People really need to learn that O'Reilly doesn't give a rat's ass about anything or anybody besides himself.  If people quit watching his show and bury him with harsh emails, maybe the message that this Palin stunt isn't going over well with the audience will penetrate that thick skull.

No mystery why he wastes all the time on the stupid "Body Language" chick.  She's a bottle blonde who kisses his butt, this is the loofah man we're talking about, remember (It's not gossip!!!").

I don't care what Carl said to Greta, I'm done with Fox News while he is there.  I'll watch the Greta-Palin interview tonight, but Greta will be back soon to dead blondes and baby killers so that'll be it for FOX.

I've started coming to these blogs Red State, Hot Air, etc.) cause I'm sick of Fox and other main line conservative blogs like National Review.  Blogs like this aren't afraid to say what people are really thinking.

44 BOR is a prochoice, pro gun control, anti death penalty, oil company bashing, douchebag populist.  How people consider him a conservative is beyond me.   

45 Bill O is just full of...........himself.

46 Greta kicks ass!
O'Reilly is Obama's lapdog.
She totally called O'Reilly out and said that it is gossip. As O'Reilly was defining it, he caught himself and stopped defining it because he realized how much of an ass he was.

O'Reilly was done for me several weeks ago. Hannity & Colmes and On the Record with Greta are the only shows I will watch.

47 O'loofa has lost 500,000 from the time the rumor went out to the 7th- according to nielson.  The more the story grows, so to do the clicks.  Screw him.

48

A Bold Fresh Piece of Shite

+1

49 BOR is a prochoice, pro gun control, anti death penalty, oil company bashing, douchebag populist.  How people consider him a conservative is beyond me.  

Because he's generally hawkish on foreign policy, and isn't a flaming commie. This is enough to get one branded as a "conservative" by myopic lefties. This happens to Charles Johnson at LGF all the time. Other than foreign policy, he's pretty much a hippie douchebag. His latest schtick is approvingly linking articles claming that Republican lost because of the abortion issue.

50

Carl Cameron used to be one of the good guys.  You could count on him to play it straight.  But when you look at the initial video where he "reported" all this crap on Palin, his voice is dripping with condescension.

He's condescending because you really have to be smart to have a journalism degree, unlike Palin who has a ... journalism degree.

51 Suggesting that Sarah Palin is anything but an inbred idiot with an IQ of 75 is a racist smear against Barack Obama.

52

I mean this in the nicest way...Fuck you Bill and double fuck you to Carl as well. Too late for you to try and suck up. You make me sick, you disgusting excuses for humanity. You to have been damned with the rest of us in the country by the morons that voted for this man but you arfe to stupid or to egotistical to realize that.

Satan called. He needs a bail out to build additional space for people like Bill, Carl and the entire Democratic party.

53 shim: "O'loofa has lost 500,000 from the time the rumor went out to the 7th- according to nielson."

Have ratings dropped across the board for political shows on FOXNews (or other "news" programming), or has the drop been exclusive or more significant for O'Reilly? And what about Greta Van Susteren's? Higher or lower ratings over the same period?

This is going to be fun to observe. I've dropped O'Reilly from my schedule and I've been a loyal viewer for years. I'll probably resume at some point, but it won't be any time soon. That time has now been relegated to Greta or the AoS lifestyle.

And well done for both Greta and Palin. Greta's exclusive is surely chapping O'Reilly's ass because he's been frozen out; his reputation has taken a hit because he's defending the indefensible; Greta's fairness will earn her audience and a Christmas bonus; Palin will be given a fair shot; and Palin gets to stick a shiv in O'Reilly's back without even speaking to him.

That Palin chick's one smart cookie.

54

First of all, Cameron didn't just report the gossip, he bought into it and spoke as if it was all true, saying things like 'Why wasn't she vetted better?' 

Second, why di Cameron report gossip?  Greta is right about this; O'Reilly, as usual, is wrong.  By the way, was anyone else annoyed by O'Reilly's incessant blabbering about how the Right was opposed to Obama because of FEAR.  It's all FEAR, you see.  The Timeline is divided in two, Donnie -- Fear and Love.  I'm sick of O'Reilly mischaracterizing everything in his effort to seem neutral.  The guy is a boob.

There is no Thirdly -- f' em all.

 

   

55

Is it just me or is Fox News going more left?  Shepard Smith was always a tool, but, really, Carl Cameron used to be one of the good guys.  You could count on him to play it straight.  But when you look at the initial video where he "reported" all this crap on Palin, his voice is dripping with condescension.

i've heard rumors they've become pussies w/ criticizing O, i personally think Carl really wanted Mac to win so much he decided to blame Palin

O'Reilly was trying to build up an official controversy about Palin, then he graciously invited her onto his show to refute it.  What a tool.  The only show worth watching on FNC these days is Red Eye.

Bill O is jealous of Greta.  She gets an hour long interview with Palin tonight and Bill was practically begging Sarah to come on his show and he got NOTHING

i'm a huge critic of this from BO, he's a hypocrite, he chimes on conservatives shouldn't take crap from the media and then turns around and says hey but they have to have an interview w/ me if they want to win the hearts of "the folks", i know from a good source he's pissed when he makes a mistake and people point out his mistakes and he's extremely jelous his talk radio ratings suck so bad i think Colmes gets better ratings

Brit Hume will be leaving, to be replaced by Glenn Beck... not that I have anything against Beck, but that seems like a shitty trade.

i'm a Glenn Beck critical fan, meaning i like him but can easily expose him as a "gimmick", that said i have to say he's needed bad at FOX and he's not replacing Britt, he's getting a 5 o'clock show ifhe replaced Britt he'd cause those elitist on the all star panel all kinds of headaches

Have ratings dropped across the board for political shows on FOXNews (or other "news" programming), or has the drop been exclusive or more significant for O'Reilly? And what about Greta Van Susteren's? Higher or lower ratings over the same period?

H&C now gets better ratings then him and fucking Maddow is catching up to him too, he was always conservative leaning but thic cycle he's lost it sucking up to O afraid O will come after him and having a hissy fit that Palin enever talked to him like she had to, i lost a lot of respect for him this cycle even w/ that tough interview on O that hurt him

56 I love O'Reilly's logic: It's not gossip or trash talk, but it might be lies !! LOL ! He and Cameron are done in my book.

57 I won't watch Fox anymore but the wife still turns it on for background noise.

Does anyone know how tv ratings are actually taken???? Who knows what the hell is on my tv unless I tell them?

58 Glenn Beck is not replacing Britt Hume. Glenn Beck show will be at 500....Brit Hume most likely will be replaced by Bret Baer........Special Report @ 600

59 This Carl Cameron thing is the worst rape of Journalism I have EVER SEEN ON FOX NEWS.  Totally obscene and shameful. 

60 I watch Brit Hume and some of the Fox weekend shows...

...O"Reilly and Olbermann have a nightly struggle to out-jackass each other....and they both win...

...we lose.

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