1 Wow ... good news and then very bad news. I wouldn't put it past them. Hopefully, intelligence will thwart the attack ... unless it already happened. You know, Gutterball getting elected?

2 So...after the attack the public will demand that something be done, and of course, Obama will do something that isn't popular, like let's say a Civil Security Force to protect us from further attack.

This force will be as well funded and strong as the US Military.

CSF Defending your freedoms here in your own backyard

3 The godman will no doubt send forth the black panthers to ... play cards with AQ and talk them out of into it. No maybe they will vote present, or show up with night sticks, or give AQ a lifetime supply of night sticks.

4 Wait, wait, knowledge and decisions like that are above his pay grade. He'll call ayes for help.

5

"he'll be tested like JFK was tested" perhaps he'll call Nancy Reagans channeler to get in touch with him!!

naval blockade around S.F. bay maybe?

6 I think this was supposed to be released last week.  It is too late now to effect the outcome of the election.

7 So we have an inverse Reagan going on WRT terrorists:

Carter out, Reagan in = Islamic radical pants-shitting

Bush out, Obama in = Islamic radical mouth-drooling

There's going to be change all right. Either this nation gets whacked on Obama's watch due to his weakened foreign policy, or Obama adopts the mantle the foreign policy hawks (courtesy Bush) built for Obama and he ticks off all his new global "friends" and domestic moonbats.

At the risk of sounding cold and heartless, there's a nugget of schadenfreude in there somewhere. It's tragic that innocents may die, but that's apparently what the nation wants. For the unity and healing.

8 Fuck al Qaeda. This guy's got a spine of steel, I tell you. Why look how he's standing up to complaints about his plan to conscript the youth of America into his Community Service Corps.

What? He changed the website? Oh, what am I saying? Stand up, Chuck.

9 Even if this info  had been released last week, it would have made no difference.  The American people obviously do not get it.

10

I'm as much disapointed by the election results as anyone here, but to cheerlead, even discretely, a terrorist attack in order to validate your politcal opinions is nothing short of disgusting.

11 Maybe Farrakahn can put some devout prayer on AQ and stop them.  Fingers crossed.

12 No problem; I know just how to handle this.

I'll blame the failed policies of George Bush.

13 I expect some major violence in Afghanistan too.  They came *that* close to getting us to give up on Iraq.  They'll do everything they can to convince Obama that we can't win there either.

14

How many men and women that have kept this country safe are going to be disgusted and leave or be forced out by these leftists that will infest every department agency in the coming year?

It all on your ass Mr.President Obama.

15 You know, that article has about as much information as the daily briefing that Bush saw in August 2001, so if al queda is successful, by the Left's own rules shrieking OBAMA KNEW!!!1 will be warranted.

16

Osama has been dead for at least 5 years so not sure if this is real.  That said it is pretty clear that O is going to be tested by AQ, Russia, NK, Venezuela etc and he had better not soil his pants or we're all in deep garbage.  His confusion over the Poland missile shield and word that he sent his envoy to Syria and Eygpt promising better relations aren't comforting.

Related note - in a deep blue state and just got back from a dinner party.  Most of the attendees are pretty solid Dem and all of them were worried about O and all claimed they voted for McCain and wondered how the heck he got elected.

17 <i>but to cheerlead, even discretely, a terrorist attack in order to validate your politcal opinions is nothing short of disgusting.</i>

Agree 100%.

It would be like constantly counting American casualties - almost like your hoping for more casualties to make your sitting president look bad.  Or verbalizing that more casualties means more senate seats.  Disgusting?  Yes.  Is it what America seems to want? Seems like it.

18

Posted by: Turkmenbashi at November 09, 2008 07:57 PM (sVJyt)

Oh fuck you, nobody's doing that.

19 Turkmenbashi,

Who is cheerleading? I'll preempt the charge if you're directing that at me with:

"...or Obama adopts the mantle the foreign policy hawks (courtesy Bush) built for Obama and he ticks off all his new global "friends" and domestic moonbats."

That right there is schadenfreude - sweet, dripping, Obama-is-no-agent-of-change-and-every-critical-thinker-knows-it schadenfreude. I'll trust your powers of comprehension noticed that and you're just making a general point.

20 Just remember, everyone: anything bad that happens for the next four years will obviously be George Bush's fault ... or maybe Karl Rove's ... or those sneaky Joooos neocons.   One or the other.  Probably both.  It certainly won't be the Obamessiah's fault.  Nosirree.

21 It's going to be a long four years, as we finally get to see what a second Carter term would've looked like.

22

One of the main reasons the Dems are enjoying their new found power is due to Bush's phenominal execution of the War on Terror. Did anyone honestly think we wouldn't get a single attack 7 years after 9/11? Has everyone just forgotten what happened that day after 8 years of pathetic Democratic policies? Bush's complete eviceration of Al Qaeda has allowed Dem's to sneer at Bush for being a failure, since no one notices when a terrorist attack doesn't happen.

Liberals have spent that time flipping back and forth, saying Bush's policies have failed, created more terrorist...but at the same time the 'War on Terror' is just a bumper sticker and a distraction used by a power mad President to spy on innocent Wisconsin librarians.

No one is rooting for a terrorist attack. But it will clearly demonstrate the stark difference between Obama and Bush's view on how to handle the problem. And I fear Obama's will be the same as Clinton's.

23 It's going to be a long four years, as we finally get to see what a second Carter term would've looked like.

It could be worse:  nobody was stupid enough back then to join a Carter cult.

24 DC will be the safest place. Al Qaida will not risk harming the Muslim-in-Chief

25 Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2008 08:09 PM (0BPlb)

Enduring liberals completely decline to give President Bush any credit whatsoever for keeping the country safe has been particularly galling the last seven years.  As far as they are concerned, he deserves no credit whatsoever.  As they see it, there wouldn't have been any attacks anyway.

26 A lot of what we didn't kill in Iraq boogied to Yemen. 

The good news though is the Yemani government can be bought and we've been quietly doing a lot of "hearts and minds" type work over the past years with the locals.  AQ doesn't do hearts/minds, its not the way they roll.

27

I have very few doubts that Obamas's policies, when enacted will encourage future terrorist attacks. I was using the word cheerlead very loosely, I'll grant that. However, The original post sought to score cheap political points via schadenfreude by implying a terrorist attack as a consequence of Obama's election, his election, not mind you, his policies. The left did this, far more openly for the last 8 years, we debase ourselves by adopting their practices, however loosely.

28

I say that the coming Obama Administration will be the biggest collection  of assholes ever assembled in the history of this country. With cover from the media.

goodby Rush, Hannity, ETC.

I hope to be proved wrong.

29

My family and I are ok. We are stockpiled with food, water, and ammo. If we run low, I can take it from some hippie mofo that's growing organic shit in his yard.

Need to zero in the scopes some more over the next few days...

30

Enduring liberals completely decline to give President Bush any credit whatsoever for keeping the country safe has been particularly galling the last seven years.  for anything he's done.

Fixed it for ya.

31 Also, the source is spurious at best. We'd lambast the left for using such sources, so why do we accept them? For all these "al-qaeda source stories" that we've seen since 9/11, how many are even remotely true?

32 Gird your loins, Gentlemen.  Make sure you and your families are ready.  This is obviously going to get really stupid, really soon.

33

we debase ourselves by adopting their practices

Yeah, but it's nice to give the lefties a taste of what we've endured for the past eight years.

34
Will this attack happen before or after Barry gives them billions of our dollars?

35

I'm thinking about starting a tasteless and completely inappropriate pool to bet on the date of the next terrorist attack. 

I don't think anyone should look down on this.  I'm just trying to stockpile money before Barry gets his paws on the economy.

~T the D

36 Osama bin Laden has been dead for years.

Why's his name on this crap?

Seriously, of he was still kickin, he'd be writing letters of congratulations, not issuing threats.

Be gullible no more. They're wasted, can't even manufacture a video or tape anymore. Used up all the old clips, I guess.

37

Yeah, but it's nice to give the lefties a taste of what we've endured for the past eight years

Throwing out all moral arguments for a moment, where it worked for them with the media in their corner, it will backfire for us. The media will throw it back in our faces, HARD, the way they ought to have done with the dems.

38

I have very few doubts that Obamas's policies, when enacted will encourage future terrorist attacks. I was using the word cheerlead very loosely, I'll grant that. However, The original post sought to score cheap political points via schadenfreude by implying a terrorist attack as a consequence of Obama's election, his election, not mind you, his policies. The left did this, far more openly for the last 8 years, we debase ourselves by adopting their practices, however loosely.

Honestly, I think most of the schadenfreude isn't so much directed at Obama, but rather his zealtorous followers who seem to think that merely through his election, bin Laden will sprout tulips from his ears and start farting rainbows. That somehow, everything is all peachey-keen and everyone loves us again. As if they did before that brute George HitlerSatanBush came into power.

Al Qaeda hates America. It doesn't matter who's at the helm. The will continue striving to bomb, kill, destroy and level this country. This is the fatal (literally) flaw of Democratic logic when it comes to dealing with Islamofascists; we can negotiate, Bush started it, we caused this to happen, etc.

And if Obama really plans to send 2 billion to Middle Eastern Madrasasas to fix the problem...I'm girding my loins.

39

I live near Charlotte, which up til about a month ago was an important banking center and likely on the short list of desirable targets.  Any chance AQ got the memo on the bailout and revised their list?

Anyone have land for sale in remote, off the grid, locales?

On a related note, large gun show in Charlotte Dec. 12-13th...I would expect attendance to be brisk.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

40 Posted by: Turkmenbashi at November 09, 2008 08:16 PM


We?

41 Er, who posted this?

42 2 billion bucks will buy 2 billion of weapons for jihad, obama is just a true dumb ass, he couldn't organize mayberry

43 Nobody's cheerleading for it, Turk, I just figured it would happen which is why I put up with an uncomfortable daily commute away from the office to achieve geographic isolation so I know my house, my wife, my cats, and the stuff I hold for a rainy decade is safe.

44

If, God forbid...honestly, God forbid, something really bad happens and we lose a city or suffer significant damage, I fear our response will be "measure and appropriate" by liberal standards.  In other words, a pin prick.

The left has anti-war protested/litigated us into a corner when it comes to responding to attack from non-nation/state combatants.  

45 Probably nothing will happen.  Then the Muslim in Chief can take credit for solving the world's ills be merely appointing himself Officer of the Office of the Commander in Chief-Elect.

The man is a god, I tell you, a God.

46 The original post sought to score cheap political points via schadenfreude by implying a terrorist attack as a consequence of Obama's election, his election, not mind you, his policies.

It did nothing of the kind, and if you've been reading this blog for longer than just tonight, you would know that. Our stand against President Elect Obama, nee Senator, is because of his leftist politics and his Panglossian approach to foreign policy.

I realize it's awfully tempting to get on the moral high-horse when you see something not 100% fully fleshed out enough to preclude drawing a conclusion of 'cheerleading' , but for fcuk's sake, who elected you hall monitor?

47 It's certainly possible.

They're here.

My guess is that it will be numerous simultaneous suicide bombs in crowded malls.

48

I'm not worried. Biden, the true evil genius behind that bag of wind, Big O, will move the puppet strings he has on Barry and save the day, just as Cheney has been doing the past eight years.

Wait a minute... "...three letter word: J-O-B-S!"  Never mind, we're fucked. Wasn't there an old air-raid shelter around here somewhere?

49 No one here is cheerleading for this to happen but I hope Obama changes his policies and decides to follow the Constitution and protect us.

"When will we get our country back?"

50 The Obama Administration is going to be a goddamned disaster. 

51 It's been said already on this thread, but worth reiterating: whatever goes wrong in the next four years is the fault of BUSH and every Rethuglican going back to Hoover. Whatever goes right is due to the Wisdom and Leadership of His Holiness Obama.

52

44  In other words, a pin prick.

No way! A strongly-worded letter of protest will force those jihadists to their knees! To their knees, I tell you!

53

It did nothing of the kind, and if you've been reading this blog for longer than just tonight, you would know that. Our stand against President Elect Obama, nee Senator, is because of his leftist politics and his Panglossian approach to foreign policy.

I realize it's awfully tempting to get on the moral high-horse when you see something not 100% fully fleshed out enough to preclude drawing a conclusion of 'cheerleading' , but for fcuk's sake, who elected you hall monitor?

If god forbid, there is a terrorist attack on american soil under Obama's watch, but not as a result of specific policy , "told-you-so" (see Bush, George Walker. 2001-2009) is an entirely inappropriate reaction. Furthermore, just because the media has refused to allow criticism of Democrats doing this, do not for a moment think they will hesitate to throw every single example of the right doing this back at us.

54 Store Iodine pills in your medicine cabinet. The mushroom clouds over Manhattan are fuckin' coming bitch. Obama is riding his evil black steed straight into hell.

55 Biden, the true evil genius behind that bag of wind, Big O, will move the puppet strings he has on Barry and save the day, just as Cheney has been doing the past eight years.

Right, and don't forget Soros, the one whose hand is far enough up Obama's ass to work the jaws and simulate and speech.

This meme can't be pushed hard enough, if only to drive those who are operating at 52% of their mental capacity into conniptions.

56 It's going to happen, eventually, no matter who is in the White House.

The only difference will be with the response. A president who is a leftist terrorist-symapthizer community organizer will treat it as merely a crime (not even a "hate" crime, just a crime).

A good president would treat a terrorist attack as it is: an act of war against the U.S. Obama will not be a good president.

57

All I know from what little I know is that AQ has had a serious jones for the idea of targeting American school kids for a very long time.  They'd like to do a couple of smack downs on European soil too.  It'll start with maybe a few swipes at mil and diplomatic targets I'm guessing.

Hoping this never comes to pass, or that Obama turns out to be a bad ass mofo on the terrorists to make Ronny proud.  But best to be prepared for anything imho.

58 I realize it's awfully tempting to get on the moral high-horse when you see something not 100% fully fleshed out enough to preclude drawing a conclusion of 'cheerleading' , but for fcuk's sake, who elected you The Office of Hall Monitor-Elect?

FFTY

59

51 It's been said already on this thread, but worth reiterating: whatever goes wrong in the next four years until the end of time is the fault of BUSH

Fixed it for you.

60 For all these "al-qaeda source stories" that we've seen since 9/11, how many are even remotely true?

A better question is how many have been preempted that we never heard about because the guys who preempted it were never there and don't exist and the perps were never seen again?

61

If the US is attacked during the reign of Chicago jesus, you can bet your ass that rahm Emanuel will send a sternly worded letter to the UN demanding IMMEDIATE debate on steps to be taken to determine the shape of the table at which we will ask our enemeies PLEASE don't attack us again becaus e Love Is All You Need.

And if that doesn't work-

DEPLOY THE CHANGE WEAPONS. LAUNCH HOPE BARRAGES.

UNICORNS: ATTACK!!

62

It doesn't matter who's at the helm.

Excepting, of course, Reagan's inauguration day. That day, it fucking mattered.

63

A better question is how many have been preempted that we never heard about because the guys who preempted it were never there and don't exist and the perps were never seen again?

When you pause and reflect on that, it makes you feel secure and triumphant, but also shit-scared.

64 Posted by: someone at November 09, 2008 08:22 PM (zHoxL)

Someone, did it, someone.  Who?  I don't know.

65 Don't pin this on me.

Who's your favorite band from the 70s?

66 Turkmenbashi,

I agree with you mostly. We need to be very, very careful here.

I do note its says "The Hope its not going to happen" which I think means the poster does not want the attack to happen. But I read that at first and was confused.

I  do like the

"It would be like constantly counting American casualties - almost like your hoping for more casualties to make your sitting president look bad.  Or verbalizing that more casualties means more senate seats.  Disgusting?  Yes.  Is it what America seems to want? Seems like it."

and would include links to that whenever anything close to this is blogged.

67 Hell, they've been promising this year-in and year-out since Sept. 11, 2001.

The only thing is, now, will the new administration be as deft at snuffing this threat out before it even comes close to fruition as our current one has been for the last seven years?

I'm very hopeful that they will, since the Bush Administration has been taking its transition duties very seriously, unlike the Clinton Administration, which was too busy prying the "W"s off the keyboards to bother to pass its intelligence estimates along.

68 Who's your favorite band from the 70s?

Yes.

69 If the unthinkable does happen on US soil, it would be an opportune time for a US military coup. Just sayin'

70 "The only thing is, now, will the new administration be as deft at snuffing this threat out before it even comes close to fruition as our current one has been for the last seven years?"

It's difficult to imagine this new administration taking any position other than defense, but who knows?  I have some small hope that Obama's national security briefings were sufficiently sobering as to scare the crap out of him.  Big difference between hopeandchange feelgood nonsense and the cold hard reality of Islamic maniacs bent on destroying all of us.

71 "If the unthinkable does happen on US soil, it would be an opportune time for a US military coup. Just sayin'"

Steady, now...

72 Kensington,

I agree. This is just my "hopey" part of the hopey-changey stuff.

73 OT:

Much fun was had at the South Dayton Burbs Moropalooza.  There are photos, and they are being held until an appropriate time.  But mostly because they make me look bad.

74 If al-Qaeda is going to hit the US again could they please hit Hollywood this time.

75 War69's First Rule in Presidential Politics:

I issue Executive Order 99999 - If any terrorist cell uses a nuclear device on our soil we will retaliate by dropping a nuclear bomb or bombs on the country from which the cell originated, without care as to whether the country sanctioned said attacks.

I would also make this a part of the War69DotCom Doctrine.

You would see how fast those gutter Middle Eastern countries started offing terrorists.

Oh and thanks to this blog for teaching me a new word: Panglossian.

I'm glad I kept this blog on my post election reading list.

76 TheQuietMan,

Hollywood is not on the list. You don't kneecap your own cheerleaders and PR department.

77 I just have one question. If/When we have attack on the U.S. Will we hear the truth from the MSM?

78 My favorite band from the 70's: Sex Pistols.

79

I issue Executive Order 99999 - If any terrorist cell uses a nuclear device on our soil we will retaliate by dropping a nuclear bomb or bombs on the country from which the cell originated, without care as to whether the country sanctioned said attacks.

I would also make this a part of the War69DotCom Doctrine.

You would see how fast those gutter Middle Eastern countries started offing terrorists.

Oh and thanks to this blog for teaching me a new word: Panglossian.

I'm glad I kept this blog on my post election reading list.

As if that wouldnt be an incentive, never mind a deterrent. We aren't dealing with sensible people here, that's the godamn root of the problem to begin with.

80 There was no time line mentioned here. What if an attack occurred just before The One floated into office.. like the U.S.S. Cole attack happened on Clinton's watch , but was left for Bush to "handle" (sadly he did not) . If Bush were to fight back, would O abort the operation as soon as he was sworn in?  What a mess it would be indeed.

81

70 It's difficult to imagine this new administration taking any position other than defense, but who knows? 

No, it's difficult to imagine this new administration taking their collective heads out of their collective asses to realize that there is a problem. The libtards are still saying that this is America's fault, too busy closing Gitmo to bother defending the homeland. They've got to arrange enough national public defenders for the poor, mistreated inmates at Gitmo, held against their will by the evil Boooooosh!

82 My favorite band from the 1970s:  The Jam.

83 I got a cold chill when you said "it's like 1976 all over again"

84 sex pistols, the jam... I have found the right site! Heaven!

85

I got a cold chill when you said "it's like 1976 all over again"

Except that the bicentenial celebrations of '76 will be replaced by ObamaJugend rallies.

86 Um, this is a dumb post. And I'm a moron who attended the first moronappallooza (using a different name at the time, but we don't need to talk about that).

It's 100% what-if. Why speculate about such horrors? If such a thing happens, we'll deal with it. Obama either learns or he gets kicked out of office.

Meanwhile, how do we educate our voters that when government grows, people lose their rights?

87 79 Perhaps so, you would think the Middle Eastern countries like Saudi Arabia would want to preserve their castles filled with their oil riches.

So what is your plan of action, if you were President right now, because we know that these scum would not hesitate to use a nuclear weapon and if it ever happens, well let's just say that, I don't want to even talk about what would happen, a lot of people in this country forget about 9/11, they act as if another attack is not possible.

88 Fire doesn't melt steel. Google it!

George Bush did it, with a giant space station raygun of death.

89 70s band -- What about Chrome? What about the Avengers?

90

If the US is attacked during The Chicago jesus regime- GOD FORBID-, I do not expect a robust response from obumble. By robust I mean bombing the ever-loving shit out of someone, sending troops to hang their leaders, etc.

I believe this- no snark- Obama will take it to the UN.

91

sex pistols, the jam... I have found the right site! Heaven!

I'm listening to the Jam's All Mod Cons at this very moment.

92 Excepting, of course, Reagan's inauguration day. That day, it fucking mattered .
comatus at November 09, 2008 08:43 PM

I was a freshman in college, I will never forget that.  My daughter is now a freshman in college and the best I can hope for is that Obama will speechify terrorists into submission. 

93

Fire doesn't melt steel. Google it!

George Bush did it, with a giant space station raygun of death.

"George Bush did it, with a giant zionist space station raygun of death."

 

*Corrected

94

If the US is attacked during The Chicago jesus regime- GOD FORBID-, I do not expect a robust response from obumble.

If it's a severe attack, he won't have much of a choice if he doesn't want to be booted out of office.  I don't think the Dems could stand up to the pressure of an outraged electorate.

Then again, that would be the same electorate who've justed put these idiots in office in the first place.  Sigh.

95 Al Qaeda will nuke Manhattan and Obama will fellatiate who ever did it.

96
Thank goodness this place has reverted to its former glory as a smart military blog.

97 91

I listen to XM Fred channel while I work... with talk radio on as well... keeps my mind clear from some of this crap. Prager and The Damned simultaneously!

As for the Reagan parallel,  I thought about this when the Biden made his "mark my words" gaffe, I wondered why the republicans did not respond with the fact that Reagan was not "tested" but FEARED.

98 An al-Qaeda attack on the United States is going to happen regardless of who the president is, sorry.  As I remember the 9/11 report they still have sleepers in this country. They are an organization that thinks long-term and have a established set of objectives they will not give up on.

The good thing is, I believe, Obama will not want to have on his record an attack that can't be blamed on the prior administration.  If this is a credible threat Bush will definitely brief him on it, on record, and on any on-going operations to counter it.  Barack won't be able to hide behind any "I did'nt know" excuses if it does go down and he did'nt do everything in his power to stop it.

As much as he might want to, I don't think that the War On Terror, waged in the real world of bombs and bullets, is going to end on his watch.  Dems are evil but not stupid.

99

Reagan was not "tested" but FEARED

I always say that it's much better to be feared than loved.  Obamessiah's upcoming "Hug the world and say we're sorry" tour after he's sworn-in is just going to show every country on earth that the USA is ripe for abuse.

100 Kesington@68:

Who's your favorite band from the 70s?
Yes.

Yes, absolutely!

101

Dems are evil but not stupid.

They're both, actually.

102 sec of defense: carter

103 Obamessiah's upcoming "Hug the world and say we're sorry" tour after he's sworn-in is just going to show every country on earth that the USA is ripe for abuse.

Yes, and if the UK or Europe is attacked, do you think they will hate us (again) because we will be either unable or unwilling to defend them?
Love can be very fragile....

104

SGT Dan, you still around?

 

105

sec of defense: carter

Nah, it's going to be Wesley Clark.  You heard it here first.

106 "The good thing is, I believe, Obama will not want to have on his record an attack that can't be blamed on the prior administration."

Don't worry about that.  I'm going to do whatever I can to make sure nothing gets pinned on him.

That's my job.

107

77 I just have one question. If/When we have attack on the U.S. Will we hear the truth from the MSM?

----------------They have been hiding the truth for the last 3 months. They are not going to start telling it now. Expect the lies and whitewash to continue indefinitly. Bombs could be dropping around our ears but they will paint it as Rainbows and Unicorns. Bombs? No, there are no bombs-its a thunderstorm! You won't hear anything remotely close to the truth from the MSM for the next 4 years. Expect them to continue burying incoming policies but portraying them as the thing you need desperatly and how great it is gfor you! No matter how much it fucks you over-like the fairness doctrine or the "required" part of the volunteer program. That one wil lbe bruied in the language until it passes, then you'll see the "required" part pop up

Better than sliced bread, doncha know!

108
There's some scary stuff at Powerline to think about:

In the November 17 issue of the National Review (not available online to my knowledge), John Fonte of the Hudson Institute identifies four "transnational power grabs" that Obama is likely to push for They are: the Law of the Sea Treaty, the Rights of the Child Treaty, the Convention for the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women (CEDAW), and the International Criminal Court. Agreement by the U.S. to these arrangements would make us more popular with foreigners, but only at a cost to our national security, our right of self-governance, and our rights under the Constitution.

As Fonte explains, the Law of the Sea Treaty could result in maritime disputes involving U.S. defense forces being arbitrated by an international panel composed of 21 judges, some of whom would be chosen by the likes of China, Russia, and Cuba. The Rights of the Child Treaty would require uniform penal codes for minors in all 50 states. It would abolish the death penalty and life imprisonment for everyone under the age of 18. And it would limit parental rights, for example by granting children the legal right to correspond with anyone, anywhere, without interference from their parents.

According to Fonte, CEDAW would likely result in the imposition of gender-based preferences in multiple spheres, including elective offices. He says the U.N. committee that monitors compliance with CEDAW has called on the Republic of Georgia to return to its Communist-era policy of gender quotas in public offices. Britain has be told to adopt the "comparable worth" standard of "equal pay" under which bureaucrats set pay rates. Fonte also warns that CEDAW would provide a method for "overturning a vast array of federal and state laws that [feminists] do not have the votes to defeat through democratic means."

The ICC, according to Obama foreign-policy advisor Sarah Sewall, "represents an acid test for America's commitment to international and universal concepts of justice and human rights." The problem is that under the ICC American soldiers could be charged with war crimes and tried by a court comprised of judges whose interests and values are foreign to our own. Thus, the ICC is indeed an acid test. . .of our commitment to national sovereignty and self-governance.

That's truly really scary stuff.

109 i think you have all missing something important. obama will be more effective in the war on terror because he will consult/employee his friend Ayers, who understands the mind of a terrorist. maybe a cabinet position for Ayers?

110 If the unthinkable does happen on US soil, it would be an opportune time for a US military coup. Just sayin'

The US military has no interest in running this country.  I'm not the least bit worried about that.

111 The original post sought to score cheap political points via schadenfreude by implying a terrorist attack as a consequence of Obama's election, his election, not mind you, his policies. Of course because of his election, what do you think? Did the Iranians release the American embassy hostages because of Reagan's policies? They did it the day he was inaugurated, no policies in place whatsoever. Do you imagine terrorists only carry out their actions after holding a moderated debate on their enemy's "policies"? Like good gamblers, they act when the odds of succeeding tilt in their favour, and a straw-stuffed designer suit on his way to occupy the White House is a big, fat GO signal.

112 That's truly really scary stuff.

Posted by: Tinian at November 09, 2008 09:15 PM (Ohodx)

Scary indeed, and not unexpected.  This fits in nicely with the Global Poverty Act that will demand the US give .5% GDP annually to the UN, so they can spend it however they see fit. Now that is the Global "spread the wealth" policy I have come to expect.

113

If the unthinkable does happen on US soil, it would be an opportune time for a US military coup. Just sayin'

Although I'm expecting obamessiah to be the biggest f*ck-up we've ever had for a president, the last thing this country (or any country) needs is for the military to become politically involved in a non-legal way.  You have one coup, more are sure to follow ...

114

It's like 1976, all over again

So, where's all the "Johnny Horizon" bicentennial swag ...?

On a more serious note, what's the over/under on Tel Aviv and Teheran becoming sheets of radioactive glass in the next four years?

115 I don't think that the War On Terror, waged in the real world of bombs and bullets, is going to end on his watch.

Not hardly...considering it really began on Thomas Jefferson's watch and has gone through numerous hot/cool phases ever since.  Ever since the beginning of recorded history, bad guys have been singularly unimpressed by Unicorns and hope, so the chances of Obie winning over the thugs and maniacs of the world are pretty much zero... 

116 Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. Dems are evil and stupid. If there's a smart one among the bunch point them out to me. Just one.

117 "...If this is a credible threat Bush will definitely brief him on it, on record, and on any on-going operations to counter it. Barack won't be able to hide behind any 'I did'nt know' excuses if it does go down and he did'nt do everything in his power to stop it."

I dunno. Does the name Sandy Berger ring a bell? And are extra baggy pants a popular style in Chicago?

Precedent says that records can be purged, the reporting of it embargoed/stonewalled, with great ease. Had H. Clinton won, Berger, a man who shredded documents to cover up the B. Clinton administration's handling of terrorism, would have been available to render his services once again.

Bush has been blamed for not handling Clinton's mismanagement of terrorists adequately, and you can bet Obama would carry on with the tradition. Guaranteed. Bush still won his war with the terrorists, despite the adversity. I don't believe Obama will be as successful and certainly he won't be if he follows the policies he has voiced so far - assuming you can discern the one he actually believes from the pre-primary and post-primary rhetoric.

118 With a weak ass down low play acting president coming into office, an economy hanging by a thread and a populous ready to surrender or negotiate instead of good old fashioned defense...

I'd expect nothing less than a few terrorist attacks.

Being destroyed from within.

119 #108: Yes. But the good news is that it takes 2/3rds majority in the Senate to ratify a treaty.  These things aren't going to happen unless the 2010 elections go really bad for us.

120

This report has me a little concerned.  

A strike in the US while GWB is still President would weaken his legacy, and give Obama a free pass on his own future failures. 

On the plus side, with a Democrat in the White House, there won't be any complaints about Big Brother snooping at terrorists library records.

121 The military voted nearly 3-1 against Messiah-Elect O'Jesus. Resignations and re-enlistment/recruitment rates will be inversely proportional to the extent that the armed forces will cut itself by 25%, without any help from Congress.

122 Coups are not a good thing but if the worst comes I think we can count on the military being on our side. Their are situations where we would welcome it. Going communist is not an option.

123 Obama will send his unicorn squad after Al Qaeda and sprinkle sparkly pixie dust on them. Oh Boy.

Ever see one on these rag headed fuckers cut off some poor bastards head with a rusty knife? No amount of pixie dust will stop them.

124 Well, for all of our sakes, I really really really really hope that we never have to find out how Obama would respond to a terrorist attack.

125 Being destroyed from within.

Yes, like a cancer. Like Europe and the UK. This is why the Unicorn and hope mentioned above is sooo true.. that is the policy of those countries and the terrorists have been quite successful eroding them from within their own borders.

126 f, God forbid...honestly, God forbid, something really bad happens and we lose a city or suffer significant damage, I fear our response will be "measure and appropriate" by liberal standards. In other words, a pin prick. I disagree. I think it's very hard to predict exactly what anyone's reaction to such a thing would be. When you get an insecure mediocrity, thin-skinned and obsessing about being "disrespected", and push him really hard into a corner, it's not at all out of the question for him to lash out with disproportionate force. Obama could be the sort who would want to "teach everyone a lesson" and end up decapitating an entire country. Liberals are not at all pacific people, despite their self-delusion; they're simmering cauldrons of anger and grievance, with oversized egos and narcissism thrown in. They aren't people who can be relied upon to turn the other cheek every time.

127 #122: Let's not even joke about military coups.  It's scary enough that the Chicago Messiah is now president.

128 HOPE AND CHANGE! Jamie Gorelick being considered for Attorney General.
from Instapundit

129 I know of African American military dudes who voted against Obama. They exist!

130 Going communist is not an option.

We're already there on a lot of metrics.  Gus Hall stopped running for president and said he stopped because they'd gotten everything they wanted.

131 Bin Laden is freaking dead.

132 I don't think that the War On Terror, waged in the real world of bombs and bullets, is going to end on his watch.

Obama looks like hell . If his appearance on tv is his poker face, we won't need the media to tell us what's going on with his administration. He obviously got a reality check of epic proportions recently. I think he has just realized that he just signed on for 4 years of hell. Ain't gonna be time or opportunity for the hopeychangeyropeydopey. I hope he is a fast learner.

I bet he sucks at cards.

133 Sorry, they're not stupid. I remember the '06 elections and how the talking heads on our side kept saying that they were infighting, they were disintegrating, they had no plan. What happened?  Mary Foley. Randy Cunningham. Katrina. 4000 dead in Iraq. Each event carefully packaged and used in a coordinated attack against Bush and Republicans that just entered the second phase. Stupid people don't get 361 electorial votes and hopefully won't get blindsided by al-Qaeda.

134 Jamie Gorelick!!! She caused the break in communication between CIA and FBI during the Clinton years! She should be bearing a sh*tload of responsibility  for 9-11 intelligence failures! God help us!

135 "Jamie Gorelick being considered for Attorney General."

Crikey! Everything she touches turns to shit.

That really is disturbing.

I guess she'll now introduce rebar and barbed wire for her wall. Terrorists are laughing like hyenas right about now.

136

I'm leaning towards thinking this is bullshit posturing by AQ. I would like to think the GWOT has cleaned the cupboard of crazy fucks for suicide bombings. Why are casualties so far down in Iraq? Where are the suicide bombings of mosques to re-ignite infighting? I think they are out of fools willing to strap it up.

Some folks need to dial down the rhetoric with military coups and shit. I would never wish for a civil war or becoming some third world junta. However, if the time ever comes to choose the constitution or the government.... I will defend the constitution.

137 I will ask again. Will the MSM report the true facts about a attack on the U.S.?

138 #130: Yup. After the Chicago Messiah finishes nationalizing the banks, and then nationalizes the auto industry, the airline industry (because they will come for their bailout too), the pharmaceutical industry (national health care), the fast food industry (because they are evil and need to be punished), the housing industry (to save everyone's mortgage)... we'll finally be the U.S.S.A.  Except maybe the organic health food store run by the hippies will be permitted to remain open.  With generous government subsidies, of course.

139 Massive attrition rates notwithstanding, the military would be more likely to stage a coup against Obama, rather than stage one on his behalf.

140

135 "Jamie Gorelick being considered for Attorney General."

Jamie Gorelick also worked for either Fannie or Freddie.  She could be named AG to provide cover for Dodd and others.

141 137 I will ask again. Will the MSM report the true facts about a attack on the U.S.?

You betcha. NOT!

142 Vinnie:
Shall we plan an Omaha meetup for morons?

I'll buy the first round.

143 #137: If the "true facts" involve blaming Bush, then yes.

144 137 I will ask again. Will the MSM report the true facts about a attack on the U.S.?

The answer depends on
 1) who's watch it occurs under (Bush, you'll get even the secrets that hurt us, Obama... not so much) and
2) How the Dems tell the MSM to spin it...

145 An Omaha meetup? I'm in Lincoln, I'd attend in a heartbeat!

146 Jamie Gorelick???

 Obi Wan, your failure is complete.

147

Here's some more info on Jamie Gorelick, Mistress of Disaster:

http://tinyurl.com/6yx6lf

 

 

148 Jamie Gorelick!?  Has she burned through her $26 million from her glory days at Fannie Mae already? That's  lot of fast cars and cocaine....

bin Laden is always saying he's going to bomb us again.  If anything, they'll strike in the UK. Britain has deported, let's see...oh, zero, radicals since their last attack!  They will just soften up the Dems with a little preview in Londonistan.

149 Send Uncle Joe "Plugs" O Biden over there...after a three day dissertation on international politics, the AQ dudes will just go outside and blow themselves up, feeling relieved to die rather than spend more miserable time with Plugs.
Now that's hope and change, by gumphrey...

150

#149: YES! Maybe he can spell some 3-letter words for them!

151 Night all! I'm going to watch my eagles do a come back and bet the gaints.

152 Jamie Gorelick being considered for Attorney General.

Karl Rove, you magnificient...wait a minute...what the fuck?

153 It's certainly possible.

They're here.

My guess is that it will be numerous simultaneous suicide bombs in crowded malls.

Actually, my fear is simultaneous sniping attacks, rather like the DC snipers a few years back. Remember how two guys with a single rifle practically shut down the greater DC area for weeks?

Imagine that, spread over 10 cities, or even worse, 10 sniper teams concentrated in a single city.

The worst part would be that the Dems will use the incident as motivation for large-scale changes in gun laws. The Dems will do more damage to the Constitution than AQ could ever hope for.

154 drudge reporting some sort of pre-emptive strike against AQ

155 The military voted nearly 3-1 against Messiah-Elect O'Jesus. Resignations and re-enlistment/recruitment rates will be inversely proportional to the extent that the armed forces will cut itself by 25%, without any help from Congress.

Posted by: Milesdei at November 09, 2008 09:29 PM (ACHxk)

 

Why would a white man want to die in a black man's war?

/through the "post-racial" looking glass snark

 

156 Last post for tonight.  I'm not too worried about a attack here, yet.  I'm more worried that Obama, unleashing his inner John Shaft, will do something to destabilize Pakistan to show how tough he is.  That something will, in turn, piss India off proper.  Who will then, figuring "what the hell," go Waterhole #3 (do unto others before they do it unto you) all over Central Asia.  Which will not make China happy.

Maybe they are stupid, where it counts.

157 The Obama Administration is going to be a goddamned disaster. 

Posted by: Nyctalus Lasiopterus at November 09, 2008 08:34 PM (N+Ydc)

This we know, just how big of a disaster is the question.

158 "An Omaha meetup? I'm in Lincoln, I'd attend in a heartbeat!"

Excellent.  How about Vinnie and others?

Fu*king Jamie Gorelick...how in the world did she ever end up on the 9-11 commission?  How does that happen?

159
@137 I will ask again. Will the MSM report the true facts about a attack on the U.S.?

No. They have been bought and paid for. Attempts to point out facts will be filtered through the Obamanation.

A trail of too many facts could also point back to the media's traitorous inaction during the run-up to the election. 

Factual reporting holds no benefit for the MSM.  

160 If AQ attacks again, I'm sure our jug-eared coke-snorting chickenhawk media-selected White House resident will know exactly what to do.

I have complete and total confidence in that fraudulently selected racist, mainly because of his years of pertinent executive experience and the high-caliber patriotic nature of his immediate associates.  It's not like he ever sat in chirch for twenty years praying for God to damn America or anything.

161 As POTUS, my "Preemptive Policy" would be to make the following announcement: "America promises not to use Nuclear Weapons to retaliate to anything other than a Nuclear Attack." Then I would add : "Our new policy will be to totally destroy, using Conventional Weapons, Every Warship, Fighter Jet, Military Installation, Command and Control Facility and The Capitol of any Nation that dares attack us. We don't like "Collateral Damage", so be advised to get out of our way. If things start blowing up around you, that would be us doing it. We will NOT do this quickly. We will do it painfully slowly, and in vivid color, using you as an example to others foolish enough to try a repeat performance. Besides, we need the jobs for replenishing our stock of weaponry to help our economy, so please attack us "sooner rather than later", we recommend Chicago, Detroit or Burbank as these areas are in desperate need of Urban Renewal. Thanks for your support."

162

Jeebus, I was about to ask where Jamie Gorelick was going to surface!

We need to raise hell if that woman is ever allowed anywhere near a public office again!  And that includes deluging the MSM with messages that tell them that if they clam up on her, and she gets in, and anything bad happens... well we will make sure it happens to them too!

I am approaching to the point where I will have to weigh my personal life-long record as a law-abiding citizen against the willful negligence of others toward the safety of my country.  It's getting to that.  IYKWIMAITYD

163 Burbank???  What do you have against Burbank?

164 So, who else is on the Dem Loser List that is about to surface in the Messiah's administration...Jocelyn Elders? Mike Espy? Harold Ickes?

165

That could be true...

 

My sources tell me that SOC people have been given carte blanche to find and kill Osama, the sooner the better.

166 Dammit ... chirch is, of course, how we spelled it back in Romania.  Here we spell it church, like in the Church Amendment !

167 Burbank?
May I as a fully documented moron suggest they take out Hollyweird instead of Burbank?
The Lockheed Skunkworks are in Burbank, whereas only the remnants of what used to be the somewhat honorable film-making industry remain in H-wood. Take all of that sodomite rathole you want. Just spare the nubile conservative starlets we mention by name.
Get back to ya later with those names, that could take some time.
Nubile and conservative starlets by name anyone...anyone?

168 Uh, on second thought there may not be any names on that list.
None spring to mind.

169

"we debase ourselves by adopting their practices"

Proud and happy to be debased.....I will be giving shit to left like they have never seen for the next 4 years and be proud and happy to do it!

Don't like it? tough shit ...grow a fucking a pair!  I am so sick of the "we are better than they are" pansy pieces of crap.....WE ARE BETTER AND OH BY THE WAY WE ARE WAY FUCKING MEANER!

170 Barry should be able to handle al-Qaeda as long as all of its members are old white women. Those are the only people he seems good at attacking.

171 Sgt. York:

thortrollhammer at gmail

172 I feel so ripped off. I thought by voting for Obama, we were going to be loved and respected in the world. Where do I apply for my refund?

173

If something like this happened, it would have to persuade at least 2/3 of the US population (I'm convinced that the Independents in this country aren't all stupid, but they don't always pay attention to what's going on politically) that nothing we could do would make them not hate us. That realization would open up Muslims all over the West to a world of hurt, as the same realization played out in country after country. From a long-term perspective, it doesn't seem to really make sense. That said "sowing terror in the hearts of infidels" is a religious commandment for these people.

174 I also believe that if Obama did nothing because he was OK with "damning America", he'd be impeached so fast his head would spin. Only 10% of people opposed Bush going to war in the initial aftermath of 9/11. If this potential attack was worse than 9/11, I would be surprised if 90% of people didn't demand tough action and could be persuaded that to not do so was an impeachable offense. If this country is to survive, Democrats need to be tough against some other people besides Republicans. If they have to, they can imagine Al-Quaeda is an offshoot of the Southern Baptists.

175 Well if Gorelick is AG we can forget about any investigation into ACORN, campaign finance fraud and any other shenanigans that have occurred or will occur during the Obammunist regime. She will cover his ass 24-7 and may even fuck that up since everything she's touched the last 10 years has turned to shit.

I'm also beginning to think that there is something much more global, as in sinister global, with the Obammunist. I think by selecting Rahm-bo, he's sent a clear signal to the 77% of Jewish vote that voted for him that he'll defend Israel. If anything, I could see a pre-emptive strike on Iran in the first few months of his regime. Remember, the Obammunist and his ilk are about power consolidation. It's already started with the manufactured financial crisis. You know the financial world has not collapsed and Chairman Paulson has yet to spend one dime on these supposed toxic assets these institutions are carrying. Yet banks have consolidated and merged and now he's spent $125B on these bank stocks. Now the talk about seizing our 401Ks....another consolidation. And remember Plugs said this international crisis in the first 6 months will be a 'generated crisis' which suggests that we initiate it. And that the Obammunist's response may not be viewed as the correct one. So.....we give the green light to Israel or join Israel in lighting up Tehran. Ahchmanutjob and AQ unleashes a massive sleeper cell response which then allows the Obammunist to issue a martial law order and use the crisis to consolidate power within our border.....it's for our safety, right? Or, with the globalist angle, the response is large enough worldwide to cause world leaders to ponder a consolidation of world power which starts to take on biblical implications.

Now you may think this is tin-foil hat stuff but did you really think 3 months ago that this country would have just elected a full blown Marxist as POTUS? So keep that in mind as you ponder my post. Nothing is beyond the realm of possibility at this point. We are in uncharted waters right now.

176 The Democrats would have been tough after 9-11.

The trick is...  one word...

Nukes.

See, Bush made the huge mistake of trying to do this whole thing with a light touch.  Too few troops, too little oversight from the get-go, too much expectation of working effectively with the locals. 

The result is... it took way too long... way way way past the average person's attention span, or the amount of time a normal person can hold on to a really fast burning case of vengeance.

Nukes solves this problem.   

177   Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact

President-elect Obama plans to use his executive powers to make an immediate impact when he takes office, perhaps reversing Bush administration policies on stem cell research and domestic drilling for oil and natural gas

news.yahoo.com

what happened to the checks and balances the libs are always crying about?

178 OK to follow up on my post at 175, a quote from a speech that British PM Brown will give tomorrow that should give us all shivers.

"The alliance between Britain and the U.S. -- and more broadly between Europe and the U.S. -- can and must provide leadership, not in order to make the rules ourselves, but to lead the global effort to build a stronger and more just international order.[emphasis mine]

As Plugs said, time to gird your loins.

179 Obama probably has a nuke. From Pakistan's arsenal, or North Korea, or Iran, or maybe Russia.

He'll let it off in NYC. Kill about 6 million people or so.

It's all about them, never about us. Bin Laden or whoever is running AQ these days (Zawahari?) needs men and money and those only come when his organization kills LOTS of Americans. He takes out NYC, he can raise an army to take over Egypt (Zawahari's goal) or Saudi (Osama's).

This is reality. Men and money got to those who kill the most Americans.

There is no "deal" or hugs and kisses that can avoid that. GWB killed terrorists, locked others up, and did whatever he had to -- listening in to their conversations, e-mails, IMs, and so on, to stop them before they could strike again.

Obama is committed to hugs and kisses and so we will lose NYC. He would, after the attack, as the self-proclaimed "Defender of Muslims" (no, really, he said he would stand with Muslims against America) call for "restraint" and "understanding of why they are angry." We'd get hit again, of course. Obama can't fight. He's never done so. His answer for everything is Blame America (and Whitey). Expecting him to stand up for America is like expecting his Pastor Rev. God Damn America or Farrakhan to stand up for America.

Never happen. Figure he's impeached, convicted.

180 "Hollywood is not on the list. You don't kneecap your own cheerleaders and PR department. "
Sure you do -- because that's where all the whores & homosexuals live, dontcha know.

I'm convinced that Jamie Gorelick has photos of George Soros with a goat. That's the only possible explanation for why this woman was not sent to Siberia on a rail years ago.

181 If I were a betting person, I would bet on a strike on Washington.   They tried Washington last time and really didn't do alot of damage.  I know it is alot to those who were impacted by the hit on the Pentagon (I'm not being cold), but the original plan was one plane in the Pentagon and one into the capitol or White House.  And AQ always goes back to "finish" the job. 

How many of us think of Washington when 9/11 is mentioned?  It's always NY.  They went back to the towers cause the 93 bombing didn't do the job.  This time it will be Washington.  Mark my words. 

Plus they will add a few more cities for targets just to get everyone on edge.  I would bet on December just to really screw with the economy and ruin Christmas. 

My 2 cents.

182 <blockquote>If al-Qaeda is going to hit the US again could they please hit Hollywood this time.</blockquote>

I vote for San Francisco.

183 "Nukes solves this problem."

It's a valid point.  If the response to 9/11 had been a mushroom cloud over Kabul on 9/12, the world would STILL be scared shitless.

"How many of us think of Washington when 9/11 is mentioned?"

I do.  That's where I was on 9/11.  I saw the WTC fall on TV just like most people.  I saw the Pentagon burn with my own two eyes.

184 Minor FYI, I just updated the post.

185

Hey AQ, we have lots of blue blue cities on each coast. And we will have one heck of a time defending them after Barney Frank gets his 25% defense cut. Think how conservative Florida would be without Miami. Or Washington without Seattle, Oregon without Portland, Virginia without the DC suburbs, etc.

I think Clancy did a novel about how bad it would be if terrorists were to take out the US capitol during a POTUS state of the union speech.

Not cheerleading, just pointing things out...

186 "Think how conservative Florida would be without Miami."

Bzzzzt...wrong!  Miami's full of Batista stooges neocon gangsters staunchly Republican Cubans.  Broward and Palm Beach are where the Dems are.

187 Thank God I don't live in the beltway. I imagine all those east coast elitist pundits busy brushing up on their civil defense and first aid skills. lol!

188 Dave, that is why I excepted those who were directly impacted.  For most of fly-over country, when you say 9/11, the image that comes to mind is the Twin Towers, not the Pentagon or Pennsylvania.  Unfortunate, but that is the image that has been sold via the dead media.  Where were the cameras pointed for weeks on end?  It subsumes the other targets of that day to little more than also-rans.  And it stinks.  But that is the reality of discussions of 9/11. 

Katrina wreaked havoc on the Gulf Coast from Pensacola to Texas, but when you say Katrina, people think of New Orleans.  Go to Biloxi for a reality check on that meme.  New Orleans has actually come farther than most of MS since Katrina, yet New Orleans still gets all the attention. 

189 CHANGE = The end of the Bush 7 year and 2 month terrorism-free streak on US soil.

Ya wanted change blue state America. When s-it starts blowing up again and American women and children are maimed and killed in America, don't whine about it.

190 The original post sought to score cheap political points via schadenfreude by implying a terrorist attack as a consequence of Obama's election, his election, not mind you, his policies.

I was under the impression that with Obama the CiC, al Quaeda wouldn't dream of attacking us, as we'd open up top-level negotiations with them, and they'd come to know and love us as brothers.

Was I wrong?

191

I sure hope whatever blue state it is that gets hit has the decency to not ask us horrible racist ignorant red-staters for relief supplies and donations.

 

They won't get 'em

192 Obama will only use harsh language. Tut-tutting, he will follow Biden's advice and send $200 million to the Persians (Bozo Biden's actual suggestion on September 11th, when we thought we'd lost 25,000 dead) as a bribe, or perhaps a reward, for butchering thousands of Americans.

Oh, yeah: Joe, you old laser-brain, Iranians aren't Arabs. And if you give them boatloads of money for attacking us, why the fukc would they stop?????

The Left has worked nonstop to geld us as a nation. They want a nation of steers, not bulls. Ball-less and defenseless. All so they can consolidate their power.

Judge Robert Bork pointed out recently (on C-span) that the Left is anti-American because we've been the only bulwark opposing their drive to convert us into an oligarchy. The self-appointed "Olympians" will decide what's "best" for us to do, and dictate that accordingly. We mere peasants are supposed to genuflect, tug our forelocks like medieval peasants, and thank them with tears of gratitude.

Anybody ready to rumble?

193

It's worse than him being incompetetant. I wish that's all it was. He's tough and he's shrewd. And he very European in his thinking. In that way he is what many of us would call unAmerican. If we begin to face a prickly situation, he is going to say we will be stronger standing united - in alliance with other nations. That we basically have no choice. It will require us to forgo some of our sovreignty...those treaties listed on Power Line up above - those have been in talks for a long time - we just haven't had a President or congress that would go for it. This one will, if he can whip up a frenzy of fear to make everyone support it. Biden "gaffe" is starting to sound strangely purposeful and accurate to me.

On  lighter note - did someone say 70s bands? How about Foghat "Slow Ride"  WOOOOT! And Bad Company "All Right Now", "Bad Company" and "Feel Like Making Love" and how about Styx with "Renegade" (that's the only song they had I liked)

194 Where is B group? What the hell is a flank?

195 OOops! The Admiral - looks like I'm wearing the same tin foil as you!

196

Quite honestly, when we are attacked I doubt I will be able to feel anything if it is hitting a blue city. For 8 years we've been vilified, screamed at by elitists and anti-faith bigots, described as sub-human by these shitheels, and watched them commit sedition against our country just to advance their own political game.

See, when it happens (and it will) I doubt I will feel anything but mild sympathy. Just as if there were a report of a terrorist attack on, say, Russia. Mild sympathy, nothing greater - because, you see, they're not my countrymen. Same thing for San Francisco. Not America. Too bad, they don't realize they've spent 8 years telling us that we were nothing like them - so now I believe it. I'm nothing like them, therefore they are foreigners.

There's not going to be any solidarity. No feeling of unity. Just a bit of dold sympathy and boredom and no one I know would donate anything but a gallon of lemonade and two feet of rope for them to piss on.

197 Freetofly, I think you're right. They don't give a rat's hairy posterior about America. Expecting the uber-Leftists, Obama [spit] and his ilk, like that bitch Gorelick who opened the door to let our enemies, then sat on the commission that busted the balls of America's defenders -- expecting these Quislings to defend America is like expecting the Nazis to protect Jews.

I'm an ex-Democrat. Jumped the fence in 2001 -- I was an eyewitness to the World Trade Center massacre, and you don't forget that shit if you have a heart and soul -- and I know how my fellow Dims "think." The True Believers, the ones swooning over the Zero, are profoundly hostile to their own country, and really do see us as the root of all evil.

This is what drives their actions and decisions: hatred of America. PERIOD. It's not about "helping the poor" (they push Leftist programs even after it's shown they damage the poor). It's not about boosting women's rights or gay rights (think of the horrifically misogynistic and homophobic beliefs of muslims, their favorite pet "victim" group). It's not about ecology or conservation (think about their utter indifference to Communist and totalitarian dictatorships' rape of the environment, and their constant bitching about our refusal to sign the Kyoto treaty -- even though we've performed better than the signatories).

No, people. The driving force behind the Left is their hatred of us, a free people, and their ferocious determination to completely enslave us. The wickedly clever ones will settle for the Hitlerian model of merely gullivering us with myriad petty laws and regulations that deprive us of more and more freedom.

Judge Bork says we're only about 50% a republic any more. More and more, we're ruled by a Leftist oligarchy -- the rule of the self-appointed Few.

198 As far as why the Left hates us so much and wants to bring us down? I think it's because the example of America disproves every single stinking thing they believe: we show them up for the fools, blackguards, and tyrants they are.

That, they can never forgive.

Think about it: without the counter-example of America, the most successful and powerful nation on earth, the Commies would be able to prance and strut and claim that their lust for power is absolutely justified -- to save the poor proles, don'tchya know.

H.L. Mencken remarked that behind every utopian scheme to save the world is the naked lust for power.

199 I'm late, late, late with this but my 70's fave band was 'Batdorf & Rodney'. At least after 'Led Zeppelin', that is.

200 "Too bad, they don't realize they've spent 8 years telling us that we were nothing like them - so now I believe it."

You and me both.

201

Beverly - I agree. This is so difficult, bc I don't want to disrepect the Office he holds, but so much is going on at one time, that makes it looks like we can't afford to give him the benefit of the doubt...I about fell outta my chair when I saw on Cavuto Friday about the possibili of taking over of 401ks and it was like "Oh, yeah, yawn..." such a thing woulda been HUGE news 6 months ago, now its like nothing....it's very surreal and Orrwellian...(spelling?) instead they were more focused on the 6.5% unemployment rate....as the end of the world as we know it. While that's not ideal - its not enough reason for all the draconian measures they are taking (it was 25% in the Great Depression). I think we were all right to trust our 6th sense which was screaming "No bail out" while everyone around us seemed to be saying otherwise - many for well intentioned, but misinformed reasons. Look - they got the $700b - it turned to what- $850b likity-split. Then there was more for AIG, now there's a line starting with the hands out ...and further - what Paulson said he would do - yeah, that isn't what he has been doing so far. And it wouldn't make sense, except, if we are going to somehow "unite, join forces" or whatever they are going to call it, it would be easier to accomplish with us in our newly socialized finacial state  than if we were still a free marker like we were just a mere 3 months ago. 

 

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Oh! Lookie here from Fox "Britain's prime minister to urge world leaders to seize on the current economic crisis to create a 'truly global society'"

http://tinyurl.com/6behgj

I'm done for tonight. Everything looks better in the morning!

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DC will be the safest place. Al Qaida will not risk harming the Muslim-in-Chief

Is this the same DC that always finishes in the Top 10 crime ridden cities year in and year out?

Favorite 70's Band?  RUSH. 

 

204 #108: Yes. But the good news is that it takes 2/3rds majority in the Senate to ratify a treaty.  These things aren't going to happen unless the 2010 elections go really bad for us.

Posted by: chemjeff

Good point.  The socialist Wilson was prevented by the Congress from having the US join his creation, the League of Nations.

But today, do we have enough congresscritters with backbone?  The answer to that question is why my fear over the Magic Mulatto's election and his effects on US Policy, both short-term and long-term, is palpable.

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206 My favorite band from the 1970: Black Sabbath.

207 #104, Icus, I'm here. Shoot me a line sometime.

#185, you're thinking of the end of Debt of Honor and most of Executive Orders.

Alice Cooper and Pink Floyd for '70's bands. Sabbath was groundbreaking, but so groundbreaking some of it hasn't aged well. Kinda like Ozzy himself. Blue Oyster Cult was strong too in some respects.

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