It's Change Alright: Change The Website When You're Criticized [Vinnie]
BUMPED

Bumped [Gabe]:
A lot of folks are writing in with this because it made Drudge this morning (as if we needed all the emails to tell us something on Drudge's front page). Fortunately, Vinnie covered it on Saturday and he's got links to the google caches for the missing agenda items.

Pardon Vinnie's language.

His Post:
Let me clarify something. I don't believe it was my post that prompted the change of Change.

I do think it's quite possible, even probable, that the change is being done as a direct result of the cumulative criticism coming from the right. Original post below


Remember my post from last night?

Look what happened to the change.gov link I put in there. I took a screen shot of the AWB policy listed on that page, it's linked in that post. Also linked in that post is the reason why I decided to take that screen shot of the AWB policy.

Here's the screen shot of how it looks now.

It may be something, it may be nothing. But before, if you moused over "Agenda," you got a laundry list of options. Now, you get nothing but a static page.

I wish I could chalk it up to site maintenance, but, I went through the whole site, and the only thing changed is the "Agenda" part. Besides, we are dealing with a full blown Socialist here.

It will be interesting to see what the "Agenda" says tomorrow.

Morons, I fear our nation is looking at President-elect Flaming Douche. But look on the bright side. If we bloggers keep criticizing The One's Change website, eventually we'll get it Hopefully Changed into a super cool porn site.

So that's something to strive for.

Update: Google cache of the original "Agenda - Urban Policy" page, thanks to Matt.

Google cache of the "Agenda - Education" page, and the "Agenda - Economy" page. The "Agenda - Civil Rights"page, the "Agenda - Defense" page, and the "Agenda - Disabilities" page. Thanks to conservative mommy.

The flaming skull tempts me, but, I shall refrain for now.

Posted by: xgenghisx at 01:02 PM



Comments

1 Step 1: Elect Candidate
Step 2: Vet Candidate

What is wrong with this procedure?

Posted by: martinra at November 09, 2008 01:03 AM (8vY07)

2 If the right wing blogosphere vets a candidate and nobody hears it, did it make a sound??

Posted by: Vinnie at November 09, 2008 01:05 AM (idf83)

3 Where is Peggy the Moocher's website now?

Posted by: AGR at November 09, 2008 01:06 AM (r8a5Z)

4 If we bloggers keep criticizing The One's Change website, eventually we'll get it Hopefully Changed into a super cool porn site.

Yes.We.Can!

Posted by: Andy at November 09, 2008 01:11 AM (B+HYX)

5 I guess he decided he didn't need the required community service and his 3.1 million volunteer internet army.

Posted by: The Big Feed at November 09, 2008 01:12 AM (THFnc)

6 Okay, there's nothing wrong in asking for another cool porn site. The problem is, we are talking about OBAMA here...


I do NOT want to see Michelle Obama naked, y'all.

Posted by: Sekhmet at November 09, 2008 01:13 AM (QiWeI)

7 Some day soon Baracky is going to have to de-cloak and I know that Vinnie is going to be right there. Keep it going bud.

Posted by: Mr. Chumpo at November 09, 2008 01:15 AM (20py5)

8
Can hardly wait for the impeachment process to start when they're caught 'scrubbing' more official documents. That's when I'll watch the news again. july 09?

Posted by: politicalmuse at November 09, 2008 01:17 AM (kLKnf)

9 google cache is still up

http://tinyurl.com/6zjl3w

Posted by: Matt at November 09, 2008 01:18 AM (AquT2)

10
His "Agenda" is two f*cking sentences?

Beautiful.

Posted by: thebronze at November 09, 2008 01:20 AM (j2a3T)

11 They've skipped Stalin and gone the Full Orwell!

Posted by: AmishDude at November 09, 2008 01:24 AM (T0NGe)

12 Free republic has been down all day. Now that commibama has the judiciary all bets are off, he will be running the FBI, IRS, BATF, CIA and how many judges and federal prosecutors will he sack and replace.
His little minion scum will be emboldened to start attatcking sites without fear of repercussions

Posted by: bob hussein dole at November 09, 2008 01:25 AM (yl9yA)

13 They will continue to disappear whatever controversy that pops up. It doesn't change what they intend to do in the long run.

Posted by: Travis at November 09, 2008 01:25 AM (uOj//)

14 Thanks Matt! Updated.

Mr. Chumpo - Yes I can!

Posted by: Vinnie at November 09, 2008 01:33 AM (idf83)

15 Here's the cache of the education page.

http://tinyurl.com/5puo5a

Posted by: conservative mommy at November 09, 2008 01:37 AM (FMH4a)

16 Economy:

http://tinyurl.com/5hcwbm

Posted by: conservative mommy at November 09, 2008 01:39 AM (FMH4a)

17 11
They've skipped Stalin and gone the Full Orwell!

Yeah, everyone thought 1984 was simply a novel, when in fact, it was a book of futuristic predictions. It's not Nostradamus, it's Orwell....


Posted by: shibumi at November 09, 2008 01:40 AM (tZB/c)

18 Civil rights: http://tinyurl.com/59svsu

Defense: http://tinyurl.com/5c6zec

Disabilities: http://tinyurl.com/6fx923

Okay, some more morons take over with the Googling. I've got sick kids and I need my sleep.

Posted by: conservative mommy at November 09, 2008 01:43 AM (FMH4a)

19 Now if only we could take Obama, put him in the older website, and have him change the way his words do.

Posted by: Cromagnum at November 09, 2008 01:44 AM (j5MnB)

20 The Gutterball strikes again.

Posted by: enter sandman at November 09, 2008 01:44 AM (oAK3b)

21 shibumi 17: Remember the left crying "1984!" over the Patriot Act? Now its just hope and change...

Posted by: Swegin at November 09, 2008 01:44 AM (q0Z3p)

22 Did comments just die?

Posted by: Cromagnum at November 09, 2008 01:46 AM (j5MnB)

23 Did the Obamabots just requisition our comments for the disadvantaged?

Posted by: Travis at November 09, 2008 01:48 AM (uOj//)

24 Cro & Travis - I think its because Vinnie updated his post and then a new comment brings them back.

Posted by: Swegin at November 09, 2008 01:51 AM (q0Z3p)

25 Government subsidized porn? What manner of vile kink would that entail?

Posted by: Fritz at November 09, 2008 01:51 AM (aaGD+)

26 am I signed in?

Posted by: phil at November 09, 2008 01:52 AM (fDO1N)

27 First... use Versionista.com to track changes. That's how I have comparison pages and I went through with Google cache and took screenshots. This is easily done with Fireshot, which takes a screenshot of the entire page.

Thank you, for keeping up on this.

I've decided I'm going to keep a wiki to track changes and reversals in Obama's agenda. There's nothing up right now but this is where it's going to be:

http://obamaservation.wikidot.com/

People who will help would be greatly appreciated.

Posted by: Amy at November 09, 2008 01:54 AM (U0dI+)

28 The "Now You See It, Now You Don't" Administration. Off to a good start, aren't they?
BTW, Peter Hitchens (Christopher's brother) is most definitely not a big fan of our new president:
He does not mince words:
"The swooning frenzy over the choice of Barack Obama as President of the United States must be one of the most absurd waves of self-deception and swirling fantasy ever to sweep through an advanced civilisation. At least Mandela-worship – its nearest equivalent – is focused on a man who actually did something.
"I really don’t see how the Obama devotees can ever in future mock the Moonies, the Scientologists or people who claim to have been abducted in flying saucers. This is a cult like the one which grew up around Princess Diana, bereft of reason and hostile to facts."
and
"If you can believe that this undistinguished and conventionally Left-wing machine politician is a sort of secular saviour, then you can believe anything. He plainly doesn’t believe it himself. His cliche-stuffed, PC clunker of an acceptance speech suffered badly from nerves. It was what you would expect from someone who knew he’d promised too much and that from now on the easy bit was over.
"He needn’t worry too much. From now on, the rough boys and girls of America’s Democratic Party apparatus, many recycled from Bill Clinton’s stained and crumpled entourage, will crowd round him, to collect the rich spoils of his victory and also tell him what to do, which is what he is used to."
By acceptance speech, I think he means the speech this week in Grant Park.
Here's the whole thing.
http://tinyurl.com/5enwm3

Posted by: Ampontan at November 09, 2008 01:55 AM (SNXsl)

29 Cocksucker also changed his "required service" page. As opposed to "requiring" service, now it's in exchange for a $4,000 tax credit. Straight up MiniTruth.



this is the old page, as it existed on Nov. 7, and it says "Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year."




Now, http://change.gov/americaserves/ reads: "Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year and by developing a plan so that all college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free."




Nothing to see here.

Posted by: DMXRoid at November 09, 2008 01:55 AM (PHAYM)

30 Since this is a .gov website, does that mean it is being archived following each change?
I've never seen anything like this. He's "won," yet he is still campaigning. Have you seen how he's brough back that creepy "Seal of Obama?" And there a front-page picture in the Sacramento Bee from a couple of days ago showing him with a lapel pin that somehow matches the blue in his "Office of the President-Elect" press-conference sign.
What the hell is going on? Have I somehow skipped into a parallel universe? I can't believe this guy is this fucking arrogant. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

Posted by: LC at November 09, 2008 02:01 AM (zZCR2)

31 Cool place Vinnie

Everyone at work is freaking out about what Obama wants to do with their 401k plans. Anyone have the details on this?

Posted by: QuietPlace at November 09, 2008 02:06 AM (XWJh5)

32 DMXRoid, Google caught up, both pages you linked are identical now.

Good work though.

I suspect my links in the post will say "page not available" within 24 hours.

Screenshots, my fellow morons, screenshots.

Posted by: Vinnie at November 09, 2008 02:08 AM (idf83)

33 He has to keep his .gov open so he can keep taking bribes from the Saudis and UAE.

Posted by: QuietPlace at November 09, 2008 02:09 AM (XWJh5)

34 Nice to see you here, QP. Wish I could remember who it was that proposed confiscating the 401k's. It wasn't Obama, it was a Dem Rep or Senator.

Posted by: Vinnie at November 09, 2008 02:11 AM (idf83)

35 Vinnie, the tinyurl link I pasted works for me, but it is different if you search for the URL and go to the google cache from there.




I did screenshot it though, so there you go.

Posted by: DMXRoid at November 09, 2008 02:11 AM (PHAYM)

36
change.gov site is public property - correct?
we can legally copy pages and say -post to wiki.

Posted by: politicalmuse at November 09, 2008 02:12 AM (kLKnf)

37 QuietPlace - Gateway Pundit has it. Scroll down to this headline: Dems Hold Hearings-- Target 401K Accounts

Posted by: Swegin at November 09, 2008 02:13 AM (q0Z3p)

38
Look at the positive side. Now we get to watch a liberal politician "grow" in office as his positions "evolve."

Myself, it is a good thing if he's changing his mind about this shit. And if he's just trying to be cagey, we'll catch him.

Posted by: Ronsonic at November 09, 2008 02:14 AM (ywSvi)

39 It is not possible for the federal government to copyright written material. How is it that this entity copyrights the content but gets a .gov site.

Also the first day the site was up, it was copyrighted by another entity.

It's not a real big thing but consider the implications. Can the President servicemark or trademark "change" or various logos? If so who owns it?

I haven't looked o much into the Hatch Act vis a vis internet but I have the feeling we'll be seeing a lot of that in the future. No problem though. We'll be in full Chicago mode soon.

Posted by: casel21 at November 09, 2008 02:15 AM (Rx3VX)

40 Good point, politicalmuse!

Posted by: Vinnie at November 09, 2008 02:18 AM (idf83)

41 Actually I believe it is a private non-profit site using the .gov extention by fiat.

Welcome to the New Republic.

Posted by: Travis at November 09, 2008 02:24 AM (uOj//)

42 It is a 501(c)4 group like MoveOn.org

Posted by: Travis at November 09, 2008 02:30 AM (uOj//)

43 Travis, it's not problematic in the least that Obama's transition team, which, for tax and accounting purposes, is a 501(c)4, has a .gov extension. The USFG has exclusive jurisdiction over who gets .gov domains via their registrar, http://www.dotgov.gov/, and, given that a.) He _is_ the next President, no matter how revolting that is, and b.) his transition team works hand in hand with the outgoing administration, it's not inappropriate to give him a .gov. No shennanegans, just standard operating procedure.

Posted by: DMXRoid at November 09, 2008 02:42 AM (PHAYM)

44 Bring back the flaming douche.
That is classic.

Posted by: Dale Gribble at November 09, 2008 02:44 AM (rF+SQ)

45 My ability to suck cock is staggering. I deep throat like nobody's business.

Let's bookmark this and take a peek at it in three years or so.


Posted by: seattle slough at November 09, 2008 02:44 AM (LyEqc)

46 I wonder if we will see, "The page you requested is not available right now." on the monitor at the Defendant's Table during our Thought Crime Trials. The world may never know.


Posted by: portfolio at November 09, 2008 02:54 AM (DdzMd)

47 DMXRoid

A 501(c)4 is a private entity and from what I have read, not required to disclose information publicly. Obama campaign officials say there is no intention of shutting down the 501(c) 4 Project after the transition is over.

Will the non-disclosure clause of the 501(c)4 be retained? The public not being allowed to know what, or who is being its own government?

Posted by: Travis at November 09, 2008 02:59 AM (uOj//)

48 Whats up, Vinnie!! Sorry I'm late.

Posted by: D'ray at November 09, 2008 03:01 AM (B7gjL)

49 God I hate Hollyweird and Soros and all their minions. That's Entertainment!?!?
Get.guns.
Libtards are becoming more intolerant round here.

Posted by: sickinmass at November 09, 2008 03:04 AM (/i4dU)

50 Thanks for all the links, I would never have bothered to look at the BS Obama was putting up online otherwise.

Posted by: gabrielle at November 09, 2008 03:14 AM (dgzA4)

51 met up with a brother moron tonight here in Springfield, Missouri... it was good times... huh Kaptain Kirk? and yeah you are surprised about him changing the website on change.gov... that's the name of the website change... he's gonna be a wishy washy ass swipe... you knew it.... we all knew it... and we're gonna document it...

Posted by: Kaptain Amerika at November 09, 2008 03:18 AM (Zux3z)

52 Nice to see you, Dray.

You're welcome, gabrielle. We please to aim.

Posted by: Vinnie at November 09, 2008 03:20 AM (idf83)

53 Ooh! I just looked at change.gov and they are asking for personal stories from the campaign:

"The story of this campaign is your story. it is about the great things we can do when we come together around a common purpose. /We want to hear your inspiring stories from the campaign and Election Day."

not sure if I want to barf, cry, or laugh.

Posted by: gabrielle at November 09, 2008 03:39 AM (dgzA4)

54 http://www.filefactory.com/file/9d5c90/n/changegovagenda_zip

There, I uploaded full screen-captures of all of the agenda pages, save for Technology, which wasn't cached. I also threw in the Privacy Policy in there just for posterity's sake. Since he's collecting email addresses and all.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Amy at November 09, 2008 04:02 AM (U0dI+)

55 pr0n.gov! I can't wait.

Posted by: Amanda at November 09, 2008 04:06 AM (WHzLu)

56 How many more Governmental "Department" web pages will be springing up following the Inauguration? The slippery-slop on this one is a steep one considering that's just a few months down the line.
How much further will he intend on blurring the lines between private, governmental, and public "property." Really? A .gov site with a copyright which looks suspiciouslylike a campaign website hidden in a tax-free shelter?

Posted by: LC at November 09, 2008 04:14 AM (zZCR2)

57 I suspect y'all are really reallymissing the point. "Which is?" you ask.
Well, it seems a pretty good bet to me that the Obama campaign has actually assigned a lurker (at the very least), to AOSHQ. I mean geez, Vinnie, you post that a few hours ago, and they've changed it already? Not just noticed it, but modified the web page?
What? Did Glen Reynold's link it yet? Did it float through the dextrosphere already?
Yo! Obama dude! Like, introduce yourself already. Here leezard, leezard, leezard.

Posted by: davis,br at November 09, 2008 04:20 AM (zewwG)

58 LC

If the government cannot own a copyright ("private property") and only a government site can get a .gov, what is the entity that runs the site?

Besides potential Hatch Act violations, it would seem to violate deceptive trade practices laws.


Posted by: casel21 at November 09, 2008 04:25 AM (Rx3VX)

59 Well, it seems a pretty good bet to me that the Obama campaign has actually assigned a lurker (at the very least), to AOSHQ.

I suspect that there are going to be astroturfers and lurkers at all the sites for the duration of Obama's (pbuh) reign. They aren't going back into normal mode, but rather it will be a continuous campaign at government expense. 'They' are watching us!

Posted by: Travis at November 09, 2008 04:29 AM (uOj//)

60 Sunlight Before Signing: Too often bills are rushed
through Congress and to the president before the public has the
opportunity to review them. As president, Obama will not sign any
non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to
review and comment on the White House website for five days hours.

You don't believe me? Well you just go right ahead and take a look at the Change.gov web site, mister. Prove me wrong.

On another note this just leads me to believe that were they serious about this idea, then not only would every new toxic bit of legislation passed on up to the Senate be attached to a spending bill but an emergency spending bill at that.

Posted by: Deety at November 09, 2008 04:37 AM (+4lv2)

61 Winston!?!

Posted by: mesablue at November 09, 2008 04:43 AM (5yNaE)

62 Obama succumbs easily to pressure . . . we will have to ride him these next four years.

He's also catty, petty, and immature. Think of McCain's campaign, and take away reason accountability, and you've got Obama's emotional appeal.

Like I told you, if Bill Clinton was our "First Black President," then Obama is our First Woman President.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at November 09, 2008 04:55 AM (YvLui)

63 62 Daryl--

That's an insult to cats as well as women. I think of the O! as the first Chicago Cubs President.

Posted by: PA Cat at November 09, 2008 05:51 AM (WMEii)

64 i will say it again, always always always screen shot a site/page before writing about it.

Posted by: new at November 09, 2008 06:14 AM (MobLv)

65 You might want to send the cache of the Urban Policy screenshot over to www.nraila.org. They linked to it regarding the policies there and it seems to have vanished.

Posted by: Travis at November 09, 2008 06:56 AM (uOj//)

66 yay-the cache of the page (Technology) I couldn't find last night is now there. (screen shot taken saved)
So disregard the annoying emails I sent yesterday.
Well, I guess I may email that.
heh. Maybe I should be awake more than 5 minutes before I post, I'm rambling.

Posted by: d at November 09, 2008 07:35 AM (vLzVJ)

67 Guys, guys...you don't have to jump through all this Google cache crap to see what change.gov used to say. Just go to barackobama.com and click on the "Issues" tab. The old content at change.gov under the "Agenda" tab was a direct copy of the "Issues" from his campaign site.

It's really quite telling, when you think about it. His campaign site had all the stuff he said he was going to do, now the corresponding portion on his transition site has ... nothing.

Posted by: Eric at November 09, 2008 07:37 AM (quZLX)

68 eventually we'll get it Hopefully Changed into a super cool porn site.

Isn't that all what we want out of our government after all!

Posted by: dfbaskwill at November 09, 2008 07:39 AM (ympAm)

69 Thanks Eric-I will go check.
In the meantime, I have found the Homeland Security one too.


Posted by: d at November 09, 2008 07:49 AM (vLzVJ)

70 Maybe they've taken it all down to replace it with a short version: Government will now be in every aspect of life. Even places you have yet to imagine.

Don't we already have homeland security related things to protect us from cyber-terrorism threats? (searching for the right words-still not all the way awake)

From the Homeland Security page: (they'll probably put that witch from Ohio in charge of this)
Mandate Standards for Securing Personal Data and Require Companies to Disclose Personal Information Data Breaches:
Nearly 10 million Americans are victims of identity theft each year,
costing more than $55 billion. We must ensure that the privacy of
personnel data in computer systems is better protected. The federal
government must partner with industry and our citizens to secure
personal data stored on government and private systems. An Obama
administration will institute a common standard for securing such data
across industries and will back strong legislation to protect the
rights of individuals in the information age.

ask Joe the plumber how that's workin' for him

Posted by: d at November 09, 2008 08:14 AM (vLzVJ)

71 I have no life this morning-I went and found them all

Posted by: d at November 09, 2008 08:48 AM (vLzVJ)

72 The Obama campaign site is a 501(c)(4) outfit? I seem to recall that all 501(c) organizations are required to make public their IRS Form 990's. Of course, if you request to see it, your name may end up on a list...

Posted by: chemjeff at November 09, 2008 09:04 AM (gv6Tj)

73 If someone hasn't already done it (and I haven't read the comments to see if someone's posted that it's been done already), someone needs to get screen caps of all the pages in the google cache before the cache goes the way of Rielle Hunter's website.

Posted by: Alice H at November 09, 2008 09:05 AM (jRtPb)

74 51
met up with a brother moron tonight here in Springfield, Missouri... it was good times... huh Kaptain Kirk?

Yes, good times. Especially when a brother moron buys all the beer. I'll get ya next time.

Posted by: kahall at November 09, 2008 09:12 AM (ZCT0i)

75 When I click on http://change.gov/agenda/urbanpolicy/, I get "The page you requested is not available right now."

Someone go tell those Philadelphia Black Panthers that The One no longer has an urban policy.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 09, 2008 09:19 AM (x5Q9Y)

76 we should take daily snapshots of the entire changing "change.gov" site

Posted by: anonymous at November 09, 2008 09:23 AM (3faQg)

77 I have shots of all of them.

Daily? omg yesterday one page changed at least twice that I saw before it vanished.
We'd have to work in shifts. heh.

Posted by: d at November 09, 2008 09:29 AM (vLzVJ)

78 urban policy=Increase the minimum wage to $9.50 by 2011

What's the "gun-show loophole"?



Posted by: d at November 09, 2008 09:44 AM (vLzVJ)

79 74
51
met up with a brother moron tonight here in Springfield, Missouri... it was good times... huh Kaptain Kirk?

Yes, good times. Especially when a brother moron buys all the beer. I'll get ya next time.

well you're a cheap date... although not as pretty as the dates I'm used to...

Posted by: Kaptain Amerika at November 09, 2008 09:54 AM (Zux3z)

80 @79, well you're a cheap date... although not as pretty as the dates I'm used to...

I'm hot and you know it, which is why you were spreading the wealth.

Posted by: kahall at November 09, 2008 10:14 AM (ZCT0i)

81 The new page will read "How We Intend to Funnel Money to Acorn and La Raza."

Posted by: PJ at November 09, 2008 11:07 AM (GVdvM)

82 Wow. I capture everything last night, come back here in the morning, and it's changed already. Whoever said we'll have to work in shifts is right...

Posted by: Amy at November 09, 2008 11:11 AM (U0dI+)

83 Did you morons hear that our new leader is going to reverse almost all of Bush's executive orders and implement some of his own on day one? Once in a lifetime opportunity and all. He is starting embryonic stem cell research right off the bat. Federal funding for abortion and funding for overseas family planning, which is abortion.

This guy is a freaking target that has never been lit up. I believe Jindal would have exposed him for what he is. It is our job now to bring his agenda to the light of day, because the media are "going to do what they can to see this president succeed."

Posted by: locus ceruleus at November 09, 2008 11:30 AM (e2mBS)

84 Like 67 Eric said, the deleted Agenda section was just a repackaged version of the Issues section on The Messiah's own website. You can take a look over there before the Stalinists take that down, too.

Also, google "obama national service plan" to find a PDF on his site (should be the top link) about his long, detailed plans for slavery and indoctrination ERRRRRRRRRRR "Universal Voluntary Citizen Service." Save that file, too. The document is titled "HELPING ALL AMERICANS SERVE THEIR COUNTRY." It reads like a Hundred Corps Movement. Interestingly, there are details for just about every part of the plan except on how to increase the troop level of our military. It is last on his priority list, after all.

I emailed a few drones with kids about this plan. I was not trying to make an argument; I only wanted to see what their opinions are. So, I just sent the pre-existing Change.gov links without much added commentary. Not surprisingly, this was their first time of hearing of this plan. One was slightly perturbed but thought one hour a week is manageable; another hoped their kid would get school credit. They all rationalized it into "Well, it's good for the kids and will make this country better." Somehow, I get the feeling that if this was Bush's plan, they'd slip into screaming NAZI FASCISM mode.

I hope that after spoonfeeding more these Ideas of Change in moderation, the spell will be broken for at least some of the drones and cognitive dissonance will set in, before the Red Guard National Civilian Security Force is established.

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at November 09, 2008 12:03 PM (S9wvq)

85 Youth army corp concept is ridiculous. Thank goodness for yourscreen shots and diligence. I noticed that serves/still has the first revised plan calling for youth to "serve" (not the original "require"), and agenda/urbanpolicy/is the page that comes up as the page not available. The everchanging landscape at change.gov makes it hard to keep up. Keep up the great work.

Posted by: noindenturedservitude at November 09, 2008 12:22 PM (EUgyg)

86 Vinnie, you should make sure that Ace sees this post. We all know he doesn't always read his blog.

He needs to know that the Obots are still monitoring him, which he probably assumes already, but this is good evidence.

Posted by: stace at November 09, 2008 12:28 PM (JO0c/)

87 Man arrested for wearing McCain-Palin Tshirt to Obamabot Victory Gathering

Freedom of Speech will be taken away. We saw it during the primaries and the general election.

Posted by: incognito at November 09, 2008 12:30 PM (Rpam5)

88 Obama, change you can believe in. Yup.

Posted by: SH at November 09, 2008 12:49 PM (arAyy)

89 All Diebold Touch-Screen Systems Impounded by Judge in PA County:

All 185 of the completely unverifiable Diebold touch-screen voting machines used in Northumberland County, PA's election were ordered impounded by a judge Tuesday night after complaints from both the Republican and Democratic parties. Officials from both parties had filed requested action following reports from voters that straight-party ticket votes were not showing voters the names of their selection for President on the summary screen near the end of the 100% faith-based touch-screen voting process.

Posted by: incognito at November 09, 2008 01:03 PM (Rpam5)

90
UNPRECEDENTED AND SECRETIVE

Lost amid all of the jubilation of the Obama victory was the
announcement by the Obama transition team that it had set up a
separate transition program beyond the one that is paid for by
the American taxpayer. Called the "Obama/Biden Transition
Project," it is a 501(c)4 tax-exempt organization, with no limits
on the contributions it can receive and no requirements to
divulge the names of individuals or organizations that give it
money........As well, the nonprofit may also serve as a haven for Obama
supporters and campaign loyalists who for one reason or another
can't be employed by the Administration or in the federal
government. "There are some people who have been with us from the
beginning who are clearly political liabilities or who won't be
able to qualify for a job, say, because they can't get a security
clearance," says another aide, who was unaware of the unique
Obama transition project's tax status.

Regardless of the purpose, Obama campaign officials say there is
no intention of shutting down the 501(c) 4 Project after the
transition is over.

American Spectator

Posted by: Deety at November 09, 2008 01:29 PM (+4lv2)

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Posted by: Cassandra at November 09, 2008 02:20 PM (XBmaz)

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Posted by: Zak Taylor at November 09, 2008 03:07 PM (sevlt)

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Too often, top-level military decisions, which impact the National Guard, are made without its input. Obama cosponsored legislation to elevate the Chief of the National Guard to the rank of four-star general and make the chief a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the top military advisory panel to the president. As president, Obama will sign this legislation into law.
Please to understand, this would make the 'Chief of the National Guard' no different than any othergeneral seated with the Joint Chiefs of Staff, except that he would overseethe 'National Military."
Obamais the classic dictator. This is really, really bad. Wake up, America!

Posted by: LC at November 09, 2008 03:19 PM (zZCR2)

94 As a home school mom, I am MOST concerned about his Marxist inclination and association with Ayers, BECAUSE of Ayers focus on the "education" of our young people. Obama worked with him in spending millions of dollars on this to a degree. And none of those monies went to strenthening the reading, writing and 'rithmatic. It was, instead, to change the way they think about government, society, history and social issues. Several of the items I see on the education site are of great concern to me. They sound generic enough - but you have to read btwn the lines.
Several phrases:
"extend education hours" = they keep our kids longer - no thank you
"affordable childcare" = govt intervention in the childcare industry - no thank you
"0-5yrs" They want to provide "voluntary" opportunities for the govt to educate your child, so he/she will be "ready" for kindergarten - no thank you
"all schools must be accredited" - I think this would put out home education and many private schools - I may be wrong - but knowing Obama - probably not - poeple of such Marxist ilk - think the govt knows best as pertains to our greatest resource - our young people - no thank you
"nationalized standards for teachers"- anything nationalized for teaching or education leads to the govt determining what, how and who will be taught and/or will teach - no thank you
Great post, thanks, Vinnie!

Posted by: freetofly at November 09, 2008 03:34 PM (Ls9QL)

95 yes bushhilterchimpie is evil - obama wonderful - all glory to him

Posted by: Wolverine at November 09, 2008 03:53 PM (/Zcox)

96 how about a new group to stand against obama - biteme.org

Posted by: Wolverine at November 09, 2008 04:02 PM (/Zcox)

97 I don't think this is conspiract theory that bloggers were taking about it ( and the damage it would do) and then it magically got cahnged. Has there been anything in the last 3 months that has lead you to believe things are a wierd coincidence?
Face it, the in the tank media is no threat to air dirty or damage. All of the damage has come from the internet and bloggers. Makes sense that they would be watching to find out what is damaging in the view of John Q. public.They aren't changing anything, just making it look more acceptablefor the public to have it forced down their throat. Would be a good idea to let the few media that are not in the tank know about these things and bring attention to them before you air it on blogs. Embed, screen showts and hard copies of everything. FYI, they are prettifying the language. No doubt the "requird" wil lbe buried in there and no one will know it until this thing passes. You guys better make alot of noise when this thing really does come up

Ace, a wild goose chase for the watchers is in order in the future. Let's see what happens

Posted by: Tonto at November 09, 2008 05:59 PM (B/Y39)

98 "Would be a good idea to let the few media that are not in the tank know about these things and bring attention to them before you air it on blogs. Embed, screen showts and hard copies of everything"
Posted by: Tonto at November 09, 2008 05:59
I agree! Let's try this with something, Ace! I saw a good article on a blog that gave hat tips to local news - bc some of them across the country really are trying...

Posted by: freetofly at November 09, 2008 06:51 PM (FXO37)

99 Thanks for your keen eye. Will be on lookout for more changes at the the change gov site we as tazpayers are paying for.

Posted by: thetownecrier at November 09, 2008 07:25 PM (EUgyg)

100 One of these days, Google is gonna catch on to the cache being used against the Messiah, and it'll be shut down or more likely, have access limited.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 10, 2008 01:10 PM (Ds4I5)

101 Pardon Vinnie's language.
Fuck a whole bunch of motherfuckers who think we need to pardon fuckin' Vinnie's fuckin' language. And I mean fuck'em. Edit this any way you see fit, Gabe.

Posted by: pendejo grande at November 10, 2008 01:12 PM (pRPWE)

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Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 10, 2008 01:16 PM (1Jaio)

103 I mailed all the pages to ace's mail address on this page.
The Homeland Security page is/was pretty creepy.
Well, a lot of them were.

Posted by: d at November 10, 2008 01:16 PM (vLzVJ)

104 What on earth is wrong with Vinnie's language? It's mild compared to the usual around this place.

Am I on Ace of Spades? Because this place has gotten gone beta male lately. What is going on? What have I missed?

Posted by: Redhead Infidel at November 10, 2008 01:19 PM (zlHbc)

105 * not gotten gone, just GONE

Posted by: Redhead Infidel at November 10, 2008 01:20 PM (zlHbc)

106 My sister, a third-year nursing students, put it this way: "You tell a bunch of haggard, over-worked college students they have to log 100 hours of community service, you're going to get a bunch of haggard, over-worked college students' middle fingers." Which of course would make them raaaaaaacist.

Posted by: Joanna at November 10, 2008 01:21 PM (Db2kZ)

107 Dont' start apologizing for the fucking language content on the blog.

After all, we are not pussies.

Posted by: Bart at November 10, 2008 01:22 PM (ICFJ+)

108 I am getting tired of change. This guy is not even in office and I have Obama fatigue.

Posted by: locus ceruleus at November 10, 2008 01:22 PM (hdEJE)

109 "Pardon Vinnie's language"?! What's offended you, Malor? "President-Elect Flaming Douche" or "porn"? That requires a mincing pardon? Seriously, WTF is going on around here?

Posted by: Redhead Infidel at November 10, 2008 01:25 PM (zlHbc)

110 I suspect they finlly had a lawyer tell them they either had to ditch the ".gov" suffix or take all the campaign crap off that website. I personally am much more concerned about Obama hijacking the .gov suffix and using a made-up name of Office of the President-Elect and another fake seal.
This guy is a megalomaniac who cannot wait to get the trappings of the office that he obviously thinks he is entitled to have immediately.
The good thing about megalomaniacs is they always go too far and sow the seeds of their own destruction. Obama's may be in this community service stuff.

Posted by: rockmom at November 10, 2008 01:31 PM (iZqUY)

111 Barry will be ready to rule on Day 1. I can't wait for him to announce his 5 year plan.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 10, 2008 01:32 PM (1Jaio)

112 Jesus Christ, Obama just sent out an email to his minions ordering them to send the DNC some money. Looks like the DNC did some serious borrowing just before the election. I guess $700 million of Soros' money wasn't enough for these bastards!
Oh, and they have a vomit-inducing T-shirt that you get when you donate. More of this revolting fascist imagery. I guess I was naive in hoping that bullshit would stop after the election.

Posted by: rockmom at November 10, 2008 01:37 PM (iZqUY)

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From Obama's Urban plan- Repeal the Tiarht Amendment.
The Tiahrt amendment, which has been a BATFE appropriations rider since 2004, protects the privacy of law-abiding gun owners by restricting disclosure to third parties of various federal records of lawful gun purchases, by enforcing a prior federal law requiring the prompt destruction of National Instant Check System records on lawful purchases, and by forbidding the creation of a computerized federal gun-owner registry. From Volokh Conspiracy.
Hooray! Obama wants to know whose got the guns. Fantastic.

Posted by: kidney at November 10, 2008 01:41 PM (QAdII)

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From this day forward.

Some animals are more equal than others.

More to follow

Posted by: jimmytheleg at November 10, 2008 01:42 PM (mn/Pd)

115 Oh. Er, sorry. There was a "Fucking" in the headline that's gone now.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at November 10, 2008 01:45 PM (rWvvO)

116 @ rockmom, I need to see one of those t-shirts.

113. Repeal the Tiarht Amendment.
I meant to ask about that; and forgot to look it up.
Now, I'm picturing the scene in Red Dawn where they looked at the registrations to find the people with guns.


Posted by: d at November 10, 2008 02:00 PM (vLzVJ)

117 hey Morons take a look at this definition. It is about dialectic method of reaching consensus. Peter Drucker is a proponent of this. This change.com website seems to me to be in that mode. There is no perceived right and wrong. Consensus is the goal. Stuff actually makes me want to hit a college professor every time I come across it.

The art or practice of arriving at the truth by the exchange of logical arguments.


The process especially associated with Hegel of arriving at the truth by stating a thesis, developing a contradictory antithesis, and combining and resolving them into a coherent synthesis.
Hegel's critical method for the investigation of this process.


The Marxian process of change through the conflict of opposing forces, whereby a given contradiction is characterized by a primary and a secondary aspect, the secondary succumbing to the primary, which is then transformed into an aspect of a new contradiction. Often used in the plural with a singular or plural verb.
The Marxian critique of this process.


This why the ever evolving Obama platform will always be this way.


Posted by: locus ceruleus at November 10, 2008 02:01 PM (hdEJE)

118 re: tiahrt amend et al
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government

Posted by: Wolverine at November 10, 2008 02:12 PM (/Zcox)

119 What's offended you, Malor?

Don't worry about him, RHI, he's just gone all fucking tactical and all ... I assure you, the rest of us morons - lurkers like my-fucking-self and posters like these other motherfuckers, will maintain the fucking standards this smart military blog is known for. Fuck the consequences.

P.S. cocksucker, cocksucker, cocksucker, cocksucker, cocksucker (not trying to insult you, just keeping up with the quota).

Posted by: Uncle Ted at November 10, 2008 02:23 PM (Ohodx)

120 Can I get some of these National Service teens to help me pull ivy, mulch the beds, and trim the azaleas? I'd rather not hire Aztecs to do the work that Americans--umm, adult Americans--won't do.
In all seriousness, I can't imagine many people are going to want some sullen teenager stalking around the neighborhood trying to knock out his 50 hours of indentured servitude doing shiftless make-work.
I hope they wear uniforms, the better to avoid them.

Posted by: railwriter at November 10, 2008 02:27 PM (nwEiU)

121 Dear President-Elect Obama:
I do not own any firearms at all, anywhere in my house, period. Please don't send your men to kick in my glass door. The cat will get out, and I'll catch hell from the missus. By the way, we don't have kids, but if we did, you could have them--we don't really like kids much. You can have the neighbor's kid--he's a little asshole. Keep him for more than 50 hours, though; if that's all he gets, we'll hear no end of his fucking piss-and-moan.
RW
p.s. I've got my mind right, and yes, I'm going to get my dirt out of Boss Kean's ditch. No, I don't know what it was doing in there.

Posted by: railwriter at November 10, 2008 02:35 PM (nwEiU)

122 That "required" public service idea on Obama's site? Now a $4,000 refundable tax credit.
$4,000 for 100 hours is like $6,700+ in monthly take-home pay. Factor in SS taxes, other taxes, benefits, and it's the equivalent of a $120,000 a year job.
My blog: http://tinyurl.com/5sefyk
Every time that compulsory-volunteer-service stuff has been done with high school students, they've been steered toward leftie groups. Always.

Posted by: Brewdog at November 10, 2008 02:40 PM (jg+Fr)

123 4 words -
Get used to it now that I'm President!

Posted by: Joe Biden has a higher IQ than you at November 10, 2008 03:11 PM (GzZVw)

124 Thanks for taking that out for me Gabe. Had I only known.....

Posted by: Vinnie at November 10, 2008 04:47 PM (idf83)

125 No need to brush off those old Underground Railroad lines and flee north, north to freedom, kids! Change.gov has Changed.gov!

Someone must have held a séance with Lincoln because Obama has now issued an Emancipation Proclamation for Schoolkids; no longer does he propose to shanghai kidergartners to work in the government salt mines for free.

You can tell already that this is going to be the Screensaver Administration; their words are written on the wind in the old Soviet airbrush style.

Posted by: Noel at November 10, 2008 08:17 PM (4gHqM)

126 Thanks for posting this. I was Googling around for this information and found it here. Let's keep this Pres.-Elect accountable! Rock on.

Posted by: Vince at November 11, 2008 10:01 AM (Gy+il)

127 Could someone ask Obambi how he can call it VOLUNTARY Community Service when he intends to PAY them for it?? Last time I checked, that wasn't called Community Service, that's called a job. WTF???
BTW... I hate to mention Ob*** and Veterans in the same post so please see the next post.

Posted by: KC at November 11, 2008 12:05 PM (VPqbp)

128 THANK YOU to all who have served in the military. My family and I appreciate all the freedoms that YOU have GIVEN TO US. May god bless all those who have served, are serving, or will be serving in the armed forces and God take care of their families as well. THANKS GUYS AND GALS, WE LOVE YOU!!!

HAPPY VETERANS DAY!!!!

Posted by: KC at November 11, 2008 12:08 PM (VPqbp)

129 Google has already swallowed the Obama kool-aid. It's only a matter of time before they dump their cache of TheOne™. I saved a few of his original pages as html. files.
Internet Explorer used to be able to downloadan entire site's code all at once, anybody know how to do that now?

Posted by: Katie at November 11, 2008 10:15 PM (Gy7db)

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