1 Good, I didn't think this was Romney's deal. And Nicole Wallace FROM CBS, now that smells. Nasty deal. And who thought these people would be good for the campaign anyway?

2

Okay, this is totally unrelated, but I couldn't find anywhere else to put it that people might see it. Found this on change.gov website. Really pissed me off.

Recruiting and retention problems have been swept under the rug by an administration that does not understand the value of service to our nation.

Bolded portion mine. Give me a break.

3 Where does it say they've confirmed it? It looks unchanged from two days ago. And before we give Romney's minions a complete pass, let's not forget their info planting earlier.

4 Let's make 'em all pariahs.  And like Red State wants, Lepers.  Whoever they work for in the future, actively work AGAINST that candidate, and let the candidate know the reason!!!

5 This is very tenuous, so I'm just throwing it out. There's a commenter on hotair who says he has a friend who worked on the campaign, and that the friend said that Tucker Askew was a jerk and treated Palin like she worked for him. The commenter's handle is aquaviva, or something like that.

I know, it's all very third hand anonymous stuff, but since we're trying to find the third creep, it might be a name to check out.

6 Get off of Romney already, he's one of the good guys.

7 in before "yeah but Romney still sux"

8 >>>Where does it say they've confirmed it? It looks unchanged from two days ago. And before we give Romney's minions a complete pass, let's not forget their info planting earlier.

At the end, says they've taken McKinnon off the list and they've confirmed the other two.

What info planting are you referring to? I forget, please remind.

9 I never thought this was Romney in the first place.  I keep thinking this is democrat crap to try and get the Republicans into an "internal" war within the party.  Yes, there are idiots in the Republican Party but this shit should be ignored.

10 I doubt its Schmidt.  He called Greta yesterday and harshly denied alot of these reports.  Said the bathrobe thing "never happened".  I bet it's Mark and Nicole Wallace.

11 ...this shit should be ignored.

Fuckin-A right!

These distractions will ruin us. Gov Palin knows what she needs to do; it's up to her to repair her reputation. Let's move on to 2010.

12 Kaitian, that's wrong. We should have spirited but friendly debates over policy. This is unfounded, undeserved character assassination that hurts a good person on our side to the benefit of nobody we like. It has to be stopped.

13 >>>I doubt its Schmidt.  He called Greta yesterday and harshly denied alot of these reports.  Said the bathrobe thing "never happened".  I bet it's Mark and Nicole Wallace.

Wallace says all  sorts  of nice things, too.  Publicly.

14 well none of these rumors are true.  Whoever is guilty of this needs to be outed and thrown out of the party for life

15 Speaking of smearing Sarah, did you see this? http://tinyurl.com/6saz8t
Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over death threats against Barack Obama Sarah Palin's attacks on Barack Obama's patriotism provoked a spike in death threats against the future president, Secret Service agents revealed during the final weeks of the campaign.

and of course this bit by poor michelle ...yuck

Michelle Obama, the future First Lady, was so upset that she turned to her friend and campaign adviser Valerie Jarrett and said: "Why would they try to make people hate us

16 I thought Wallace had been cleared, and actually came out and defended Palin this week.  Wish I could remember where I read/heard that. 

Anyway, who cares?  I'm much more curious as to what kind of dog the Mutt is buying to shit on the White House lawn.

How courageous of the Mutt to call himself a Mutt.  It brings tears of joy to your embittered racist heart, does it not?

17 Most people were saying that it was Romney's people who had gone to work for McCain who were the aholes. The criticism against Romney was that he did not immediately defend Palin and cooperate with exposing the smearers.

18 Yeah, Mark Wallace is a prime suspect too.

Here's that Hotair thread I mentioned above, with the mentions of Tucker Eskew, the Wallaces, and Schmidt.

19 Bear in mind the backlash!

Wallace and Schmidt are not stupid. They will sing with the choir if they can avoid the guillotine.

20 Well, crap, this is it. It's in the first age of comments, by aquaviva. FWIW

http://tinyurl.com/6a7r4d

21 Lyn at November 08, 2008 05:45 PM (a3abx)

And there lies the problem. When you repeat lies often enough they become true in the publics perception and it is almost impossible to change people's minds. I resent that Palin has been made into a punchline. Any one who didn't speak up immediately aided in this crap.

22 All of the campaign staff should be booted.  They all have the taint.  Those that are truly guilty, and those that are being complicit by not setting the record straight.  None of them can be trusted at this point.  At least I have faith that if Sarah runs for any higher office, she has the judgement and common sense not to employ any of these people.  We need commited people, not mercenaries.

23 On a brighter note, Indonesia just whacked three of the terrorists involved in the Bali bombings.

24 Does anyone remember the term "Rockefeller Republicans?" They were the ones calling Mr. Ronald Reagan a dangerous extremist. I think they're the ones trying to torpedo Mrs. Sarah Palin now. I am willing to bet that those trying to knife Mrs. Palin in the back do not come from the wing of the Republican Party associated with Mr. Reagan.

It gets worse. Mr. Bush was known to hire media flacks who simply are NOT Republicans. And Mr. McCain perpetuated that practice. So, they have clutched to their breasts individuals who are not loyal to "conservatism" and who are not loyal to "Republicanism." Why are we surprised when they act like mercenaries?

25 I'm really skeptical about Schmidt being the guy here - he supposedly played a decent part in her being picked and there was that whole incident with him practically yelling at the New York Times in a conference call that the smears have to stop.

26

I have a question about the way these snarking items are referred to by others. They call these things “leaks” which implies that there is truth to them and they, being the knowledgeable insiders, are releasing that truth to the public.

 

So people, these things are NOT leaks, they are more vicious lies spread by enemies just like the left did during the campaign and for the same damn reasons.

 

Don’t call them leaks.

27 All of the campaign staff should be booted.

Absolutely. Undoubtedly there might be some collateral damage to a few of the good guys, but they won't starve. They can go back to practicing law.

Fuck 'em. Political operatives are a dime a dozen.

28 OK, I'm mad as hell at this. LISTEN UP FOLKS - It shouldn't matter WHO these leaks are coming from SACK THEM ALL!

Nicole Wallace, Rick Davis, Christian Ferry, Steve Schmidt - all central campaign management on the McCain campaign and they LOST. And lost hard. The GOP can't afford our own Bob Schrums. The Schrumster was allowed to manage losing campaigns for the DNC for decades and the idiots kept employing him.

As for Romneyman Kevin Madden - before he worked for Romeny, we worked for Boehner and DeLay. NOW he owns a strategy firm with Dem operative and Hillary campaign manager Howard Wolfson.

If you want to play in the New Conservative GOP, then you're a winner and you're loyal. Period.

It's high time we stop recycling the same pack and use new blood!

29 Oh shyte, look at this steaming pile of shit.

"Politics is about winning. Period.

Ask Tucker Eskew. He's part of the political architectural team that effectively destroyed Senator John McCain's chances for the presidency in 2000 as part of George W. Bush's smear campaign in the South Carolina Primary. He and Warren Tompkins and Neal Rhodes masterminded a push-polling campaign that asked voters if they knew about Senator McCain's involvement in the S&L Scandal and the Keating Five. McCain lost the South Carolina Primary. Bush went on to become president through a recount in Florida, helped by Eskew, Tompkins, and Rhodes, called by one McCain adviser, "the darker side of our party."

That darker side now shadows vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin. Tucker Eskew has been hired by McCain camp to help Palin with media matters and prepare her acceptance speech to be delivered at the Republican National Convention."

So WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER.

30

Lyn,

I call BS on that whole article.  1) the secret service is about as tight lipped as you can get.  2) that whole 'kill him' thing was debunked BY the secret service.  They conducted an investigation themselves and could find absolutely no one else that heard 'kill him' but the sole reporter that reported it. 

Bunch o'crap.

31 Tucker Eskew "the darker side of our party"

http://tinyurl.com/6x3qq6

32 This is very tenuous, so I'm just throwing it out. There's a commenter on hotair who says he has a friend who worked on the campaign, and that the friend said that Tucker Askew was a jerk and treated Palin like she worked for him. The commenter's handle is aquaviva, or something like that.

I know, it's all very third hand anonymous stuff, but since we're trying to find the third creep, it might be a name to check out.

Posted by: stace at November 08, 2008 05:35 PM (JO0c/)


Hmmm.... isn't Askew the same creep who slimed McCain back in 2000?  What role did he play in this campaign, and what kind of interaction would he have had with Palin?

33

Fred Barnes:  I think Rohm Emmanuel was a great pick.

Well Fred, stop drinking Kool Aid, and what does Fred know that we don't?

34 On a lighter note, isn't it a shame that crazy bitch moonbat Huffpo contributor who stabbed her, heh, lover* 222 times didn't wait a few days to see her plastic jesus steal the election?

How about some Maya Angeloo poetry?

^{*nothing says I love you like 222 well-placed stab wounds, right?}

35 Tucker Eskew is a Republican political consultant in the United States currently "chief of staff and permanent companion on the campaign trail" to Sarah Palin.^[1] He is the founding partner of the Eskew Strategy Group, an Alexandria based Republican communications firm.

During the presidential primary campaign in 2000, Tucker directed South Carolina communications for George W. Bush in his hard-fought campaign against John McCain. A New York Times report on the South Carolina Republican primary described him as "Mr. Bush's spokesman here and a longtime political operative," quoting his pushback against crossover voters: "I think this alliance between the limousine-liberal Democrats and the McCain campaign is distorting the intent of real Republican voters."^[7]

According to ABC News, "When the media first reported push-poll phone calls from Voter/Consumer Research, a company hired by the Bush campaign, asking South Carolinians if they knew about McCain’s role in the S&L crisis and his scandal as a member of the Keating Five, it was Eskew -- Bush’s South Carolina spokesman – who acknowledged, and defended, the calls." ^[8]

According to ABC News, Eskew was brought on board the McCain campaign to "help Palin prepare for her Wednesday night acceptance speech at the GOP convention and for her stump speech as she hits the road, brief her on policy matters, and help her handle the media scrutiny a lifetime in Alaska does not necessarily prepare one for." [8]

The Chicago Tribune (September 11, 200 described Eskew as "a constant by Palin's side this week, as she has hopped between SUVs and campaign planes, all the while reading briefing materials or receiving quick tutorials from policy advisers who have dipped on and off the campaign trail to visit with her."^[12]

36 It seems to me that the easiest way to handle this is to treat everyone on McCain's campaign except Palin herself as though they had the stinking rot. McCain sucked, his campaign sucked, and anyone who had a hand in it should be disallowed from spreading that taint to other campaigns.

The only reason I exclude Palin from that list of untouchables is because she's the only thing in the whole campaign that single-handedly gave that ticket a swing in the polls. Everything and everyone else on that boat stank like a sack of assholes.

37 im a little suspicious of everyone except the 2 guys who actually spent time with Sarah.  Randy Schunemann and Steve Biegun are the two guys who are actually putting there names behind there quotes in the papers. 

38 Tucker Askew has a history of smearing and stabbing fellow Republicans in the back. He was Sarah Palin's initial handler. He was the one who prepped her, along with Nicolle Wallace, for the Gibson interview. Funny, he has not stepped up and said anything about Sarah Palin since this controversy started.

He knew her first and best among the campaign. Why the silence?

39 Tucker Askew has a history of smearing and stabbing fellow Republicans in the back. He was Sarah Palin's initial handler. He was the one who prepped her, along with Nicolle Wallace, for the Gibson interview. Funny, he has not stepped up and said anything about Sarah Palin since this controversy started.

He knew her first and best among the campaign. Why the silence?

Posted by: portfolio at November 08, 2008 06:16 PM (nqVVt)

Is it Askew or Eskew?

And how sure are you that he was involved in prepping Palin?  He does sound like a creep, but I want to know who ALL the preppers were before ruling anyone out as the culprit.

40

Posted by: Tami at November 08, 2008 06:06 PM (P3ErD)

I agree it is all BS, I'm posting it in Hopes you guys do something to figure out how to get the GOP to stand up and say STOP! I am a PUMA who plans on working with you guys for quite a while. Right now my sites are on Palin 2012 and some GOP leaders need to stand up and put a stop to this crap.

 I think the Palin bashing serves 2 purposes, to destroy her before 2012 and to keep people from asking Barky about things like Odingo, if he really is a natural born cit,  and is he going to pardon Resko and what are his plans since he never really did his job, just used it to run for the next higher title.

41 ESKEW

42

....some GOP leaders need to stand up and put a stop to this crap.

HAHAHA!  GOP leaders?  Now there's an oxymoron! (not to be confused with an acemoron.)

43

The Romneys are decent family folk with a good reputation.  I understand that people may oppose Mitt, but I do not understand the hatred.

I never thought that Romney aids were behind this.  Even if, there is no chance this is from Mitt, he is just not into sneaky.  I wish everyone could have seen the Romney family as I did, growing up near Bloomfield Hills, Michigan.  Not possible.

Someone is being too clever by half, destroy Palin and blame it on Mitt. – truly a Rasputin-level treachery.  But Rasputin didn’t face the Internet.

 

This will out.

44 I think it is a collaborative effort between Wallace and Eskew. Why?

These two were the most intimate in prep for Sarah Palin following her nomination for interactions with the media. It is widely distributed that Sarah Palin performed "embarrassingly" in the Gibson and Couric interviews. Perceptions differ obviously.

Tucker Eskew is Former Deputy Assistant to the President for Communications

Tucker Eskew was Deputy Assistant to the President in the White House Office of Communications. He was responsible for strategic communications with global audiences.

As he was responsible for her performance in these "game changing" interviews, it would serve him greatly - and his professional reputation - to say that Gov. Palin is dead between the ears. It deflects criticism from him and the job he did by making it seem as though he had nothing to work with in Gov. Palin. By selling her down the river, he saves himself from professional criticism.

45

Wallace and Schmidt (and perhaps one level higher) as the prime instigators was beginning to be the logical conclusion in my mind. The reasons for Schmidt, in particular, would seem obvious. Of course, there may be a personal aspect that we will probably never be privvy to, as these things always turn on seemingly trivial matters, and there are many details I do not know.

And somebody may be trying to shape the party into getting away from those dang divisive "Christianists." Please. Let the party members make that determination via both the primary process and the subsequent verdict of the national electorate .

I'm confident the entire story will come out a little more fully in time, as people start figuring out the relative balances of power. Outside of the Senate, McCainism is dead, whereas I would say Palinism is not.

The trouble here is that we do not wish to convict unjustly, now that it has been made clear that no more smears will be tolerated, and also that the smears to date appear to have been effectively both stopped and countered.

For myself, I have held off signing RedState's petition precisely because of this--that there may be something I do not know. I am satisfied with knowing that in time the leaker will be revealed more fully, and their reasons for doing so. Once a fuller story is uncovered, the nuclear option still exists if needed.

Thus as far as actions we should take for the moment--I say we let Governor Palin determine their fate. After all, we are proposing the death penalty, as it were, and Governors do have powers of clemency. If she says no more action should be taken and the matter dropped, then we should do that (reserving the right to act when/if more details emerge). Otherwise, proceed as RedState intends, but always with the spirit of justice in our hearts.

Naturally, being a person of quality, I doubt the Governor is interested in engaging in much more, and I doubt she will be hiring the leakers herself.  This in and of itself will help identify the culprits. If she decides that they should continue in GOP politics, as she most likely would, our maleafactors will have the knowledge of knowing that the only reason they are still in conservative politics is because the "hick who doesn't know Africa is a continent" proved to be a better person than they were. 

And naturally, if the Governor decided, later, that some people were a little too troublesome for their present worth to the party, I would support RedState in carrying out execution of sentence.

I have said once and say again that there is only one man to blame for the loss of this campaign (as far as it was winnable, a question open to doubt)--John McCain. Not because I can name something he did wrong, but because he was the man in charge. He, being a good naval officer, understands this and lived up to it, as his father and grandfather before him. The campaign is over, and other than the tactical lessons that need to be learned about the mechanics that went wrong (press, GOTV, fundraising, etc), let us leave it behind and move onto redefining conservatism for the new era we are in. Maybe if we started figuring out how to teach America the value of conservatism more than figuring out how to fight better the last war, we would do better. The campaigns would take care of themselves.

No more recriminations. For we have nearly two decades worth to indulge in, if we be honest with ourselves. Let us look now to the future, and not the past.   

 

 

 

 

46

Portfolio

 

I have been a resident of SC since 1977 and yes I was here for the 2000 election and primary. I have heard all kinds of shit about this so-called “push-poll” for the black baby but you know what???  I have never found any real person who actually got one of those calls. I started doubting that entire set of bullshit about a week after it came out.

47 Fry both Wallace and Schmidt's asses.  Throw them into RINO purgatory with Powell and all the rest.

May they never work in politics ever again.

48

I was spreading this too, at least in these comments, on the circumstantial grounds of method, motive and opportunity. (Although I did recognise that Romney himself was blameless in his support of McCain himself.)

I apologise sincerely to Romney and to his supporters.

49

portfolio 44 "It is widely distributed that Sarah Palin performed "embarrassingly" in the Gibson and Couric interviews. Perceptions differ obviously."

The Gibson\Palin interview embarrassed Gibson more than Palin. But Palin erred in not taking that as a warning shot. Couric was a disaster for her, and us.

50 Bush Campaign Accused of Using Push Polls Against McCain.
College of Charleston student Suzette Latsko said she received a telephone call from a woman who identified herself as an employee of Voter/Consumer Research, and that the caller misrepresented McCain’s positions and asked if Latsko knew McCain had been reprimanded for interfering with federal regulators in the savings and loan scandal. Voter/Consumer Research is listed as a polling contractor on Bush’s Federal Election Commission filings; the Bush campaign has paid Voter/Consumer Research $93,000 through December 31, 1999. Bush spokesman Ari Fleischer denied the call was a push poll, but said it was important that the Republican Party remember McCain’s role in the S&L crisis.

Vic, Eskew admitted to authoring and making the calls. They just disagreed about the purpose of the calls.

51 some GOP leaders need to stand up and put a stop to this crap.

HAHAHA!  GOP leaders?  Now there's an oxymoron! (not to be confused with an acemoron.)

I meant to put the word leaders in quote marks,  I am just SO angry. first at MY party for the primary fraud, coverring up the causcus fraud, staying silent when the Clintons were painted as racists (now I know you aren't Clintons fans here, but I think even you agree they are NOT racists)  not saying anything about the sexism, but crying racist at any criticism of the Fraud Prince.and yours, for not hitting Obama with all that is out there about him. Why didn't anyone mention Odingo? I mean I still think Obama would have won, thanks to ACORN and people voting lots of times, but it didn't seem like McCain side really fought.

  

52 David, that's why i used the quotation fingers as everyone immediately flips when they see a negative word following or proceeding Gov. Palin's name. I'm talking about the Media narrative.

53 The ONE person who remains quiet and above the din, sits in a cabin in Arizona. This is the person at the top of the food chain, he us the general in command, the supreme decision-maker himself. However, this person continues to remain silent....above the fray. He's never been known to be shy before. He has seemed to relish inserting himself in the spotlight throughout past contentions. There is a huge undercurrent going on now in the Republican Party. We're seeing an epic battle for the heart and soul of the party being played out Keep an eye on Jim Demint.....he leads the conservative charge.

54 Lyn,
I call BS on that whole article.
Posted by: Tami at November 08, 2008

Of course it is. But still it inflicts damage. When I mentioned repeating lies, I wasn't referring to Lyn's post, since I linked the same article in another thread, but to the media. They have gone nuttier than I could have ever imagined.

55 #51...Lyn,

Welcome! Those of us who "get it" need to work together.

56 Yes, Ace, you do owe it to Romney. He and his people are not stupid enough for this crap. This is slime city stuff.

What I can't get out of my head are the similarities between this garbage and the 2000 campaign. Poor John McCain was slimed with horrible racist calls?/literature? suggesting he had an illegitimate bi-racial child, and McCain blamed it on Bush.  And the proof was? The media, repeating it over and over again.

Fast forward to 2008. McCain loses, and, lo and behold, it's because Palin answered the door in a towel, went off-message, spent thousands on clothes, didn't know what NAFTA was, and is, in general a total moron, compared to the prodigious intellectualism of McCain. And the proof is? The media, through unnamed sources.

57 We need a clean up in the Foreign Policy Advisor thread.

58 JBean, you realize that the same people who handled Gov. Palin on a daily basis were the same people who worked for Bush in 2000 correct? Go look it up. Eskew has admitted to taking part in the SC crap.

59 I'm starting to think that Don Surber might be right:

"Did Newsweek just make things up?"

60 portfolio, if " Eskew has admitted to taking part in the SC crap," and McCain was so wounded by it, then why in hell was he working in McCain's campaign?

61

#55 thanks I agreee, there are many PUMAs who are already planning next step, which HAS to be GOP since Barky will not give up his power in 4 years.

62 It's possible. I mean jimminycrickets, we had freakin Rathergate with completely fabricated documents that no one even thought to question during the course of the investigative journalism.

Who knows. If there is a leak, I'm sticking to my guns that the Bush people are behind it out of personal .

63 JBean there is an article asking that same question. Some bloggers say it was McCain's biggest mistake and a sign that he was willing to sacrifice a huge amount of his personal integrity to win the presidency. Hell fucking Schmidt is a Kar Rove protege.

the whole damn campaign stinks to high heaven. No wonder he lost.

64 Mark, that makes as much sense as anything. I haven't weighed in on McCain's duty in this, because I didn't want to be flamed for making excuses for him, but I've always thought that it's possible that he really doesn't know enough about this to place blame. He could still make a general statement in her support, though.

I've been in work situations where the HR department had to deal with situations that were totally he said-she said, and I learned not to jump to conclusions based on only one person's account.

There are a lot of hired guns on these big campaigns, and everyone is frantically running all over the country on multiple airplanes and buses. If you haven't worked with someone for a very long time, you really don't know what's going on in his head.

65 Just don't blame Bush for this whole fiasco, please...

66 "Even as the McCain-Palin campaign seeks to distance itself from the Bush administration, at least half a dozen former Bush operatives are now advising McCain-Palin. A Republican with ties to Bush questioned the wisdom of the move.

McCain-Palin advisors include Bush U.N. appointee Mark Wallace, Bush communications coordinator Tucker Eskew and Bush deputy assistant Greg Jenkins. They are now working with Sarah Palin on media interviews and debate preparation.

One Republican said anonymously, "If the McCain campaign is trying to prop up Palin as its change agent, and its inoculation against the 'third Bush term' rap, then why on earth is she surrounded by a cast of Bush advisors?"

So yeah, freakin Bush scum turning on the party the second they might find themselves in hot water professionally.

67 Another article - "I remember seeing Tucker Eskew—an old Bush hand out of South Carolina who had never spent a day in McCain World until Nicolle Wallace recruited him to be Palin’s counselor—wandering around the premises, looking somewhat lost. He and Wallace took charge of schooling the Alaska governor on message discipline."

68 Just wanna say thanks to Lyn before I go out to a party. Instead of drinking at home with the computer, I'll be drinking with other humans with whom I don't live.

69

Lyn: If you are to remain a Democrat, you should work to unseating Dems in the Congressional Progressive Caucus in primaries. The CPC is Obama's faction in Congress. If you're ignoring your party then you're no longer in your party; you're an ex-Democrat, not a dissident Democrat.

Also, let's not have talk about citizenship or Odinga. This stuff is a flammable puff of smelly fever-swamp methane.

70 Not that there's anything wrong with being an ex-Democrat. If you are a Repub now, welcome home. Just saying that as a PUMA, you should work to getting good Democrats to Election Day. Just like I, as a Republican, want to get good Republicans to Election Day.

71 So yeah, freakin Bush scum turning on the party the second they might find themselves in hot water professionally.

Cut the crap. McCain is a politician. Not some water-walking saint. If he didn't know who was working for him -- (and secretly seeking to plot his destruction, per the repetitive McCain script)  that's his problem.

He owns this campaign. It's his problem.

72

i'm with #36 all of the McCain staffers are damaged goods, what gets me is how truly stupid John McCain is as a politican, this Eskew guy is a mercenary dirty-trickster who McCain hired to do political consulting, hello! he's a smear-monger with no direction to go, what did McCain think guy was going to do?

stupid

stupid

stupid! 

73 I've blamed Romney for a lot of this too.  Sorry Mitt.  Time for McCain to step up the leaksters worked for him.

74 Before D-Day, Ike wrote a statement that was to be released to the press in case the invasion was beaten on the beachhead. In the release, he accepted all the blame for failure even though he was no where near the beaches. That is leadership and that is what a leader does. McCain is not a leader and would not know a leader if one kicked him in his wrinkled old ass

75 If I remember rightly on this, discoverthenetworks.org, reported that they looked into Soros -McCain connections and found, inter alia, that Soros paid Rick Davis a salary to revive McC's moribund presidential campaign. <-----McCain's hopes had crashed and burned with the GOP base, and with most of the country, over immigration ''reform''. However, Mac and Soros and ACORN all saw eye to eye and exchanged much support on at least that one subject. Soros funded both ACORN and Mac's immigration reform project.------> Therefore, McCain's Faustian bargain brought in the devils that destroyed him--and us. So screw him and the demons he rode in on, and the mangy dogs who followed them , and the shit they're all slinging to obscure their ignominious exit .

76 Hephaestus...

I'd say that you have a certain "bent" for making McCain look "lame"....mythologically speaking...;-}

77 Just a couple personal observations here: 1. repubs need to decide what being repub means..what do we value...a mission statement...a goal 2. eliminate all who are not loyal to the above. This election was the voters going for scorched earth...getting rid of anyone connected to the opposite of hope and change...so repubs need to do the same now. Get a definition clearly stated and slice off all the old and bring in new. 3. stop hiring folks who worked for opposition..turncoats are not always loyal (unless you are positive they want revenge...but that's another issue) 4. what makes you all think Sarah and Todd are clueless? Couples...especially cloe couples usually can read signals pretty good. I betcha if Sarah misseda look, Todd probably saw it....the insinuation that he was laconic or uninvolved tellsme he probably was/is amaster at reading folks and probably has some real strong perceptive opinions! And she didn't make it thru small town political gauntlets without some street smarts too.

78   McLame has done us one serious favor: He has shown the "go along,get along" brand of Republicanism to be a sham. These people, like Dole and MCCain, their stalwart military service aside, are gutless under political fire, backbiting the party they are members of just to be seen more favorably by their perceived masters on thr other side of the aisle. They seem to consistently come down on the other team's side of the issue, tebachle being the notable exception.
  Futhermore, it should be noted that just as he  has failed to stifle the rumormongering amongst his own campaign staff, McCain's past actions as part of the so-called gang of 14 reflect a consistent willingness to sabotage his own party's best interest in favor of  his own ego. The hindreds of open appelate court vacancies that McLame helped to loggerhead in committe and tie up for eight years will now be filled in a large rush by Dem apponitees. This is, for me, the worst thing that old fart has ever done, and he got a pass on it when he was heralded as the moderate who could beat Hillary.
  A Moderate socialist against a real socialist, and anyone had any doubt how Bob Dole II was going to come out?
  The final thing I would say is that McLame pwn this Palin bashing in that his always present ego has let him allow the bashing the same way it allowed him and his merry band of compromisers to aid the dems in clogging pro-Repub actions because the Repubs chose Bush over him.

Over all, this is a petty man, damaged by an overly large ego, his own hubris, and given to towering amounts of passive aggressive actions.
Blame the loss, the campaign, the slandering of his running mate, and the fresh wave of dem approved lifetime fed judges on him; they are his tainted legacy to the damaged American future he has helped to craft since first he kissed the proffered ring of Mo Udall in the late 70's as his political patron.
  Good riddance to the end of the McLame era, and now let us begin the grassroots retaking of our country, our rights as they will be eroded, and the repeal of the Patriot Act and the rest of GW Bush's socialist agenda during his eight miserable, not even close to conservative years in office.

I feel better now.

79 "iraq debachle aside"
missed that part. OOps.

80 I wrote that in an hurry, and some typos are apparent. However, as a moron, I am going to over look them and blame them on my drinking, even though I am noot drinking...yet.
I campaigned for McLame in NC, got alot of scorn and derision for it from both sides of the political party spectrum. I will remain conservative but will never again aid in the campaign of an acknowledged moderate of any sort. A moderate Republican is a sure Democrat vote in any legislative body. They want to be Dems but don't have the stones to take the jump, or are afraid they will not get elected if they go out as Dems.
Either way, a Moderate anything is an abomination (Obamanation) and a cancer and should be treated as such. Kill it or cure it but don't try to live with it.

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I was a fierce Romneyite during the primaries and advovocated for him as VP but I came out of my chair cheering for Sarah Palin when she was picked. I will always believe Romney was our strongest candidate and he would have won if we did not allow indies and Demorats to vote in OUR primaries. I am a huge fan of Sarah Palin and she was the only reason I didn't have to hold my nose to vote for McCain.

I have little respect for him now that he was willing to defend Obama but not his own running mate, that just stinks in my barnyard.  I will be supporting Mitt again in '12 if he chooses to run if not its full blown Palin for Pres!

82 I also think this is Demorats making shit up as they have been known to do before.

83 To 51, 55 and th rest - for crying out loud! Paid political managers are a dime dozen - and I'm not one, but know them ALL!

They are stabbing Palin in the back to save their asses and support their next candidate. SACK THEM ALL FOR GOD'S SAKE.

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85 #75 got to gut of the issue for shits sake. I may be a girl, but for shit sake, when something is right, I'll stand right the fuck next to it and defend the hell out of it. To hell with the RINOs. Rot.

86 Let's keep it simple. If you're part of the McCain campaign and NOT doing something to ID the troublemakers then you don't deserve the presumption of innocence, no matter how loudly you proclaim your love and admiration for Gov Palin. Gov Palin may be saddled with a few scurrilous rumors courtesy of this campaign, but thanks to these weasels it's going to be awfully difficult to tie McCain albatross around her neck. Anyone who can thrive in Alaska despite the dangers of the wild and the predators in the statehouse will be just fine.

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Thanks, Ace.  Decent of you.  There never was any actually evidence of people who used to work for Romney doing this, just gossip on the American Spectator, a highly esteemed tabloid suitable for wiping your ass or wrapping dead fish.

And before we give Romney's minions a complete pass, let's not forget their info planting earlier.

I blame geoff and his minions.  Why not?  There is every bit as much evidence he did it.  Before we stop blamming him, I want him to prove he and his minions have stopped planting false accustations.

And no, Romney and his team never planted shit for those of us who live in the real world.

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You can send emails to Tucker Eskew at info@eskewstrategy.com.

I agree, I'm not supporting campaigns employing any of these people, unless I have confidence that they are cleared of making these smears.

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Just don't blame Bush for this whole fiasco, please...

I don't blame Bush at all.  But I was almost certain the people doing the Palin smearing had to be some of the ex-Bush staffers that McCain hired and not any of McCain's loyal staffers.   I say this because the Palin smears reflect very poorly on McCain's judgment in selecting her.  Loyal McCain staffers wouldn't hurt their old boss just to trash Palin.  I know McCain had ex-Romney staffers too but (maybe this is just my weirdly pro-Mormon prejudice) I couldn't imagine Romney orchestrating something like that.  He was aggressive and negative during the early primaries (and pissed off both McCain and Huckabee as a result) but he was never sleazy or over the top.  Do you know what I mean? 

That left ex-Bush campaign staffers.  Now that's its come out that Tucker Eskew and Nicole Wallace worked closely with Palin and Eskew was involved in some of the borderline too negative push polling against McCain in SC 2000?  I'm confident I'm right.  The question I have is why they're doing this?

Are they just trying to cover their asses after a crap campaign?  That is, are they motivated by personal incentives only? 

Or are they trying to destroy Palin because they see her as a threat to the party's future?  That is, do they either prefer a different candidate or they think Palin is now too polarizing to win? 

Let me reiterate: I don't see how this has anything to do with Bush.  He just happened to hire some asses to work for him.  But maybe that's part of what made them so effective?  McCain obviously was willing to compromise a little bit of his integrity in order to win by hiring these people for his 2008 election.  He should have known they were snakes.  So yeah, this reflects poorly of him.  :-(    

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