No School Slavery... Yet [someone]

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1 This guy and people that elected him are absolutely insane. Oh, and now Evan Thomas, card carrying member of the Ministry of Propaganda, says there is a "slightly creepy cult of personality" feel to him. It would have been nice if he reported that before he was given the most powerful position on earth. GOD HELP US!

Posted by: Crippy at November 08, 2008 01:47 AM (09ntO)

2 As if this won't be attempted again under more, um, MSM set-up conditions.

Posted by: East Bay Patriot at November 08, 2008 01:53 AM (t/GDA)

3 Related thread on The Volokh Conspiracy: http://preview.tinyurl.com/6ntd5n

(That's a generally-libertarian group law blog that's gotten a following of partisans and kooks after months of political posts.)

Posted by: Anonymous at November 08, 2008 01:55 AM (4yauu)

4 Oh c'mon, the ObamaCorps isn't that bad. Work Will Set You Free!!! What could possibly go wrong??

Posted by: Gen. Sherman at November 08, 2008 02:02 AM (blNMI)

5 I thought community service was what you were required to do as a punishment for a misdemeanor crime. So is voluntary service masochism?

Is this the change we have been waiting for the mainstreaming of S&M.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 08, 2008 02:04 AM (MOdlB)

6 We need a conservative outfit dedicated to nothing but caching Obama's governmental web sites, and looking for changes in them from week to week. I expect them to "change" often.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at November 08, 2008 02:04 AM (YvLui)

7 So, if you kid gets injured doing mandatory service, who is liable?

Also, I love the part where people over 55 will be encouraged to volunteer working with people over 55. Who the fuck though up this shit?

Posted by: 48 Percenter at November 08, 2008 02:10 AM (XcrOy)

8 Vinnie:

I link normally by intention.

If you want to open in a new tab, middle-click.

Posted by: someone at November 08, 2008 02:16 AM (zHoxL)

9 In fact, if you checked the blog, you'd find that standard format here is straight out linking.

Don't mess with my posts.

Posted by: someone at November 08, 2008 02:18 AM (zHoxL)

10 Compulsory service = slavery.

It's no more complicated than that.

That he even considered this notion just confirms how fucking dumb this guy is.

The. Kids. Do. Service.

That's just the fucking way it is.

Posted by: railwriter at November 08, 2008 02:20 AM (XcsD4)

11 Use Versionista.com... You can track up to 5 urls for free. That's what I'm using to track changes on his site.

BTW change.gov is the scariest thing I've read in a long time, even if he changes it at the whiff of controversy.

Posted by: Amy at November 08, 2008 02:28 AM (U0dI+)

12 For a bit of good news, it appears that 1984's "Memory Hole" is more difficult to arrange in the 2008 world of internet archiving. Of course, the bad news is that it's difficult to get everyone to care about things from the past.....preachers, bomb-throwing associates, bagmen, tax evaders....

If he weren't just contemptuous of his countrymen, he'd make the site a wiki and track the changes with attribution. But, instead, he figures you won't notice.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 08, 2008 02:34 AM (qe4D8)

13 Well, we can start saying that Barack lied to Jon Stewart and he really does want to enslave white people.

Let him make the counterargument that he wants to enslave all people...

Posted by: JB at November 08, 2008 02:54 AM (KlSTV)

14 "If he weren't just contemptuous of his countrymen, he'd make the site a wiki and track the changes with attribution. But, instead, he figures you won't notice."

Now there's an idea -- BarackWiki.

Posted by: JB at November 08, 2008 02:55 AM (KlSTV)

15 Actually, ObamaWiki is a great idea.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 08, 2008 03:01 AM (T0NGe)

16 "Republican" "leaders" would be all over this if they didn't have such a bad case of RINO-virus.

Posted by: Jim62sch at November 08, 2008 03:06 AM (6rQXk)

17 America Serves...(the State)

How Left is Obama? His latest initiative shows he's been reading too many bad Soviet Novels. He has embraced the concept of Subotniki- a soviet era practice where good comrades gathered together on Saturdays to do community service. It was more peer coerced labor on Saturdays, than mandatory. (But the State was watching). In other words, Subotniki was free labor.

I am all for community service on a voluntary basis. The problem with Obama's plan is the term "require", which implies negative consequences if you don't comply. Nor is there any mention of compensation. That means you are required to work for the State for free. That's slavery.

Next will be communal living. Anyone with an empty room(s) in their house will be required to house a stranger at no charge in order to solve the housing shortage. I just can't wait until I get to share a room in Geffen's house in Malibu.

Welcome to Obamanation. More to come.

Posted by: Kolchak at November 08, 2008 03:12 AM (//Qr5)

18 Obama has already been forced back on his Nancy Reagan remark and the school slavery plan. By the time he gets into office and realizes that Nancy Pelosi wears the butless leather chaps in D.C., he may begin to regret taking the job.

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at November 08, 2008 03:20 AM (dHRpI)

19 So, if your kid gets injured doing mandatory service, who is liable?

You are, silly. Faking injuries will not be tolerated.

So, what was that speeding ticket back in 1987 about, anyway? Oops, looks like you took a questionable tax deduction a few years back. Care to explain?

Posted by: Community Servant at November 08, 2008 03:29 AM (uRJeB)

20 "Nancy Pelosi wears the butless leather chaps in D.C."

You bastard.

How the hell am I gonna wash that out of my brain?

Posted by: someone at November 08, 2008 03:29 AM (zHoxL)

21 How the hell am I gonna wash that out of my brain?

Posted by: someone at November 08, 2008 03:29 AM (zHoxL)

Bleach.

Lots and lots of bleach.

Posted by: Watcher at November 08, 2008 03:35 AM (BKZ5k)

OK, so they changed the text to �setting a goal� vs �require�. Isn�t that the way CRA started out before giving us a collapse in the bank mortgage industry? Barry just realized that he cranked up the fire under the pot a little too high and the frogs noticed they were about to be boiled.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2008 03:38 AM (Qd7GC)

23 Vic has it right. I don't think anything has changed except the alteration to a softer wording of the same bullshit.

When they are ready to roll out the final version they will bury the nasty bits deep inside the legislation or make it provisional, so it can be activated later. Meanwhile why should they take heat for it?

They ain't stupid, just evil!

Posted by: Travis at November 08, 2008 03:52 AM (uOj//)

24
This site is pretty funny and I think they are being sarcastic.

Hope I did the link correctly

Posted by: Travis at November 08, 2008 03:57 AM (uOj//)

25 WEBSITE ISSUE:

When I'm at the main ace.mu.nu page, some maps.google site keeps loading over and over and over...

Posted by: Z Ryan (MN) at November 08, 2008 03:58 AM (PDeVA)

26 It is obamamessiah.blogspot.com which I cannot seem to make into a short link.

Posted by: Travis at November 08, 2008 04:01 AM (uOj//)

27 Some thoughts on how to remake the Republican brand:

We need to become the party of the people, the party of working Joes -- we need to go anti-Washington. They will give us many opportunities to denounce the evils of inside-the-beltway elitism, of nanny-statism, of corruption, government-media cronyism, of "we know better than you." We need to start playing the class card big time. We need to slowly purge ourselves of the porkers and country-clubbers. We need to start campaigning on term limits, and mean it! I believe we can pass a term limits amendment within 10 years! (We're going to need it, badly.)

We need to reach out and bring into the big tent everyone who is going to feel oppressed by the leviathan of big government. We can grab many libertarians we didn't before.

This isn't about what we do in 2010.

This is about what we do by 2020.

But we gotta start now.

Palin would be the ideal face for the new Republicanism.

Posted by: JB at November 08, 2008 04:12 AM (KlSTV)

Travis

Here, it's fixed.

They are funny, but with the Bambi crowd you can never tell if they are serious or not because most of his true supporters are bughouse nuts.

Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2008 04:29 AM (Qd7GC)

29 Yeah and its even cooler that they are in charge now! Of course I am sure that if they were told by 'The One' to do something not strictly constitutional they would refuse /sarc

Posted by: Travis at November 08, 2008 04:35 AM (uOj//)

30 Some Old Audio Clips of Palin
http://www.kfqd.com/palin

Posted by: Tom at November 08, 2008 05:04 AM (qddqX)

31 Whether it's mandatory or not, for high-school students who want to go to college it'll be just about mandatory. Why?

1. College tutions will rise by about $4,000 since there'll be $4,000 more money per student rattlin' around to pay for it.

2. The admissions process will expect the prospective student to do his voluntary service.

On the bright side, the fact that Obama rolled over so quickly on this means that he doesn't have very strong opinions on this. And, since this was one of his first proposals (and you'd assume the stuff mentioned first would be the most important), he might be as malleable as we expected. Now malleability isn't something to like in a President BUT if the pres is full of bad ideas at least he can be persuaded to not follow through on the ones that are strongly opposed.

Finally,
> Whatever, dude, I was just trying to be helpful.

So's Obama.

Posted by: Arthur at November 08, 2008 05:45 AM (okzMG)

32 #33 you're right, Arthur. Colleges and universities will rightly see this as a huge subsidy, and will soak it up.

And only a selfish college-bound 5-percenter's kid would be so ... selfish ... as not to have done his voluntary community service.

Posted by: Loren Heal at November 08, 2008 06:14 AM (s9Ak0)

33 We had a mandatory voluntary community service requirement at my law school, which was instituted by our far-left dean.

The only organizations that counted as "community service" were left wing groups, like ACORN. You could fulfill your requirement by working for a pro-choice group, but not for a pro-life group. Volunteering for a judge or the district attorney didn't even count.

Shocker, I know.

Posted by: Scout at November 08, 2008 08:04 AM (4DIx7)

34 They has to postpone implementation because the millions of little red books won't be ready in time.

Posted by: lmg at November 08, 2008 08:51 AM (A/vgC)

35 Maybe us old farts over 55 should volunteer for in-school programs. Go out and teach young skulls full of mush about freedom, the Constitution and Bill of Rights (1st and 2nd Amendments anyone?), military history (they get precious little of that anymore), American exceptionalism, conservation of natural resources (as opposed to Sierra Cult preservationist nonsense), science (as opposed to AlGore's theology of AGW), etc. Two sides can play this frickin' indoctrination game. IT's about damn time our side start playing it.

Posted by: Reiver at November 08, 2008 08:57 AM (oliA4)

I agree with this

1 This guy and people that elected him are absolutely insane. His weird and creepy cult of personality is a harbinger of doom one way or another

Posted by: titus at November 08, 2008 08:59 AM (O/3jX)

37 Damn. Forgot to mention economics in post #35. That's some eco-knowledge our kids aren't learning.

Posted by: Reiver at November 08, 2008 09:01 AM (oliA4)

38 Two sides can play this frickin' indoctrination game. IT's about damn time our side start playing it.

Correct. And if the only orgs you're allowed to serve are leftist ones? Sabotage.

Posted by: lmg at November 08, 2008 09:04 AM (A/vgC)

Reiver- That is part #1.

#2. Send consertive college kids on campus as organizers for the anti-draft/ slavery movement. My daughters first words when shown this plan, "oh, hell no I don't work for free. I've got school and a paying job already, I don't have time for this and I didn't do anything wrong so why does he want to punish me?"

Posted by: AC at November 08, 2008 09:26 AM (ZOlLZ)

40 LGF dissed Robert Spencer. Screw that Charles Johnson hippie. Also, someone please cut his frickin' hair. It has 'hippie dweeb' written all over it.

Posted by: Kevin at November 08, 2008 09:43 AM (KO6dP)

41 Look for universities to use their students as "free" labor for food service, landscaping, janitors...

Posted by: scrood at November 08, 2008 09:46 AM (1dOyI)

42 Take my course in How To Look Like An Idiot (201): Guys only.

Step one: Grow your hair long enough to wear in a pony tail.

Step two: Wear your hair in a pony tail.

Charles Johnson of lgf is a graduate of my school, btw.

Posted by: Kevin at November 08, 2008 09:53 AM (KO6dP)

43 "Barry just realized that he cranked up the fire under the pot a little too high and the frogs noticed they were about to be boiled."

Private colleges can demand what they want. Public institutions should not be directing anyone to work in service of anyone or anything, (students are to receive instruction, period, not donate their labor to the government in return) let alone ideas they don't support, or programs that advance an agenda they find objectionable.

Posted by: SarahW at November 08, 2008 09:53 AM (7sl9X)

When I'm at the main ace.mu.nu page, some maps.google site keeps loading over and over and over...

That's the map of the road to serfdom. It's auto-reloading is mandatory on all U.S.-based sites by order of the Office of the President Elect.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 08, 2008 09:54 AM (GGy7k)

45 ...Its auto-reloading...

Posted by: andycanuck at November 08, 2008 09:59 AM (GGy7k)

46 All the crap that's not fit to print just yet, on his web site will be back in print and odered at gunpoint after inauguration day.

Posted by: katysdoorisbarred at November 08, 2008 10:09 AM (BLRy4)

47 So now it is 4k a pop to do community service in the way of what...tax credits?

I can't even see bantering this idea around because in doing so, it gives the idea credence.

With the way the government is flushing massive amounts of cash down the rat hole, with these bailout crimes, is it too much to ask our genius leaders to at least STOP coming up with more social garbage that would need mountains of money to fund at least until we get the ship back on course?

Why on Earth are we racing as fast as we can to the bottom, whats the hurry?

Posted by: Drider at November 08, 2008 10:11 AM (IQAbf)

48 The hurry is the faster we get to the bottom, the more attractive socialism is for the masses. I can't wait to get my gun (hopefully today).

All of this 'community service' smack of Chairman Mao's Culture Revolution shit. Go work at a farm for the whole of your youth to become a more wholesome individual. Hey, it's what's best for your country. Communist much?

Posted by: mongo at November 08, 2008 10:21 AM (xaCnc)

49 WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
MANDATORY IS VOLUNTARY

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2008 10:59 AM (4KWft)

50 My kids high school already requires twenty-five hours. One hundred-fifty for IB candidates, which she is participating. The thing is volunteering just about anywhere counts. I wonder if posting comments here would be acceptable. She is young moron though.

Posted by: Zelda Starr at November 08, 2008 11:13 AM (OLbi5)

51 Where exactly does he plan on getting this money to subsidize these colleges? The numbers I found said that there are about 15.9 million kids in college right now. That's 64 Billion dollars a year!

Posted by: Jeff_McAwesome at November 08, 2008 12:47 PM (G07ST)

52 Gaming as community service? Anyone? It's good for morale!

Creepy Mao looks like all talk no action. He'd have to find some all action no talkers to implement his great works.

Posted by: Amanda at November 08, 2008 01:30 PM (WHzLu)

53 Google maps = the meetup map. I guess it loads even though it's below the cut.

Posted by: someone at November 08, 2008 01:54 PM (zHoxL)

So let's get this straight. Obama had a stupid and bad idea. It came in for criticism. He immediately changed it, making it less stupid and less bad.

What's the problem?

Posted by: sauropod at November 08, 2008 02:03 PM (J9J4M)

55 Who does that Obambi think he is anyway!I mean Bush is doing every thing right!We dont believe in socialism and he is in the process of destroying any hope for those programs we all hate,unions,S.S.,public education, pensions.I say MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!With the comming economic collapse{where G.M. goes so goes the nation}We wont have any money to pay taxes its win -win!

Posted by: slavelover at November 08, 2008 02:36 PM (qyHOB)

So let's get this straight. Obama had a stupid and bad idea. It came in for criticism. He immediately changed it, making it less stupid and less bad.

What's the problem?

The problem is the initial plan. He had to change it because people didn't embrace it like he'd thought they would. But what comes next?

Besides, the $4000 for the college kids logging 100 hrs. community service? Where's that going to come from? I'll bet the capitalist pig universities aren't going to cough it up.

Posted by: katya at November 08, 2008 03:13 PM (G3frc)

This is some scary crap considering the first thing he will do is muzzle his critics with the fairness doctrine .Then with Emanual who has, throughout his career, either strong armed or flat out threatened those in the Democratic party that speak against it. And who is to stop it from Happening? The domocrats knew all about the widepsread fraud and corruption the entire campaign and even his vilolent radical ties. They not only went along with the fraud but in and in sone cases theyactully particiapted. They swept it everything under the rug. Think the in the tank media is going to stop covering and sweeping under the rug now that he is in office? They are going to paint everything as good for you and something you want to be donem like passing the fairness doctrine

This is really getting frightening

Posted by: Sue H, at November 08, 2008 07:49 PM (B/Y39)

58 54

So let's get this straight. Obama had a stupid and bad idea. It came in for criticism. He immediately changed it, making it less stupid and less bad.

What's the problem?

--------------------

or rather, he changed the wording in order to sell this crap to the public. That does not mean he is giving up making it a requirement. Just rewording it to make it less Marxist when presented to John Q. public. No doubt, he will bury the "required" part somewhere in there and of course the media will spin unicorns and rainbows. Once its pass3ed, then you'll find out that it is in fact required. This is not a man that gives up. He gets his way by hook or by crook or flat out lying

Posted by: Road King at November 08, 2008 07:53 PM (B/Y39)

59 So, the plan is now you get $40/hr for college for 100 hours of 'service'.

The fine print here probably has you've got to go thru some sort of propaganda/indoctrination sensitivity training mill as part of your 100 hours of "service". The focus of this 'training' is likely to be teaching one to an Obamaton political bigot, ready to take on conservatives at every turn.

Ultra-fine print -- I'm not sure how any propaganda training would be any different than just attending your average K12/college these days.

The curious feature here is likely to be how the Obamatons square up going to a 'religious' college like Notre Dame. A clever GOP ought to be able to lever this into giving some options for attending private schools instead of the typical public propaganda mills. Perhaps not via direct legislation, but via tweeking the language to allow an age based discrimination suit that would open up a private school option.

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