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Overnight War Porn/Gun Control Thread [Vinnie]

We morons here covet gun control. In the sense that "gun control" means being able to hit your target. Here are some wonderful examples of gun control set to music. Enjoy it while you can, only God oops, not allowed under Obama. Let me try that again.

Enjoy it while you can, only Rev. Wright knows if we'll be killing terrorists after January 20th, 2009.

Vid(s) under the fold.

Updated with even more war porn! You will not be disappointed.

Moar war porn! Thanks to mesablue:

EVAR MO WAHR POARN!!! Thanks to XBradTC:


Posted by: Open Blog at 12:25 AM



Comments

1 First shot...dead ringer.....nailed me a KosKid sweet!

Posted by: Ad rem at November 08, 2008 12:27 AM (k0/Sa)

2 I hope President Bush runs those guns out of ammo before January.

More evidence of coming financial apocalypse.

Posted by: Shy Yll at November 08, 2008 12:36 AM (301dE)

3 Awesome.

Posted by: Swegin at November 08, 2008 12:39 AM (q0Z3p)

4 The bad side of war porn .... if we were forced into an Orwellian future ... how well would we fare if the mountains became our only friends?

Posted by: Cromagnum at November 08, 2008 12:43 AM (j5MnB)

5 Tell me, am I wrong for loving this?

pass the popcorn while they fight amongst themselves

Posted by: ms. docweasel at November 08, 2008 12:45 AM (SOSlE)

6 If it comes to that we had better have I-SAM's like the Afghani's had vs the Soviets. How to build the things would be the problem as I doubt other countries would risk much to help.

Lets just hope it never happens!

Posted by: Travis at November 08, 2008 12:46 AM (uOj//)

7 Interesting blog link through Instapundit...

People who have attended the No On Prop 8 rallies claim there's been a lot of racism and N-bombs aimed towards black people, whom the gay protesters claim are the big reason that Prop 8 passed.

http://tiny.cc/vHGnb


Anyone else find it ironic that Nov. 4, a day sold as "America transcending racism", seems to have opened up a new front of racism as a result?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 08, 2008 12:48 AM (mySIW)

8 Here is a good one.

Posted by: mesablue at November 08, 2008 12:50 AM (5yNaE)

9 re: #7
see #5

more:

Posted by: ms. docweasel at November 08, 2008 12:51 AM (SOSlE)

10

Ms Docweasel

The article is interestesting, not as much love. Is it the AndySullivan that piqued your interest?

Please warn us about what kind of website you are tiny url. Rod 2.0 .... is not about 1960's cars.

Gouging my eyes in 3 ... 2 ... 1

Posted by: Cromagnum at November 08, 2008 12:51 AM (j5MnB)

11 well I don't mean I love gays calling black people the n-word, I'm just loving the internecine warfare.

See, when you have a big win, the factions start fighting over the pie. That's how we get on top again: make them fight amongst themselves. Obama did NOT back gay marriage. Say he loses the gay vote in 2012? Good thing for the GOP, yes?

Posted by: ms. docweasel at November 08, 2008 12:54 AM (SOSlE)

Posted by: Shy Yll at November 08, 2008 12:54 AM (301dE)

13 Awesome vid. Thanks.

Posted by: Amanda at November 08, 2008 01:00 AM (WHzLu)

14

#11 Good point .. divided they fall. The trouble is they fought because of chnace, not because of our designs.

We might want to take a closer look at Comrade Alinski's "Rules for radicals". Doing this for finding out how to defeat thier strategy.

One way is to figure out a way to turn thier strength into a weakness

Then we need to compare Mao's 'Guerilla Warfare' with Anti Guerilla or Counterinsurgency strategy, for methods. Edward Lansdale wrote some interesting stuff on the topic.

Posted by: Cromagnum at November 08, 2008 01:02 AM (j5MnB)

15 BTW, interesting website there docweasel

Posted by: Cromagnum at November 08, 2008 01:04 AM (j5MnB)

16 Cromagnum, that's tactics. Let's win the strategic fight.

We need to identify what it means to be conservative. We need to make sure the tent is big enough to win, but not so big as to have no meaning.

We need to identify conservative candidates who are in it to enact a conservative agenda, not maintain themselves in office for perpetuity.

Define the conservative message, and sell it. That's what wins.

And for God's sake, no more old gasbags from the fucking Senate.

Posted by: XBradTC at November 08, 2008 01:07 AM (6vAfW)

17 6 If it comes to that we had better have I-SAM's like the Afghani's had vs the Soviets. How to build the things would be the problem as I doubt other countries would risk much to help.

Lets just hope it never happens!

The intelligence to get the shooter in the area is what has made the recent war porn so prolific. So as long as your neighbors aren't commies you might just make it. That and the best shooters will be on our side.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 08, 2008 01:13 AM (MOdlB)

18 Me and mesablue give you dead terrorists and all you want to talk about are politics surrounding the act of men fucking each other up the ass.

*sigh*

Mesablue, if you have any more links to good war porn, post 'em, I'll add them.

Posted by: Vinnie at November 08, 2008 01:14 AM (idf83)

19 Hey, vinnie, I've gots a few more at my place. I just didn't plan on whoring my site tonight....

Posted by: XBradTC at November 08, 2008 01:15 AM (6vAfW)

20 The remaining insurgents in Iraq are already asking Barry to pull the US troops:

http://tinyurl.com/6cya5y

Posted by: Dr. Remulak at November 08, 2008 01:17 AM (uRJeB)

21

Agreed Xbrad .. Identify what we are .. and vet our people accordingly

What I am saying, is that you also have to understand the enemy, and how they do business, not from merely a tactics level, but from a strategey level. Then we need to develop a counter strategy. This is what Treacher also said recently.

We wont be fighting 2010 and 2012 with the same weapons and tactics. We know that they have adapted to whatever 'new' tactics we used in 2008. They will try to emasculate the only media voice we had. We lacked a coherant strategy in 2008, which led to a set of mishandled tactics. 

We need "marketing warfare", not about a brand or stupid neo-con change crap, but rather the image, method, and the set of warfare principles to follow for our victory.

 

Posted by: Cromagnum at November 08, 2008 01:19 AM (j5MnB)

22 No linky love?

Fine, I'll do it myself.

Posted by: mesablue at November 08, 2008 01:22 AM (5yNaE)

23 One of the best war-porn compilations.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194620.php

Music sucks, and the Bush/Michael Ware intro can be skipped, but once you get through that you get to see the most amazing high-altitude corpse-cartwheels and disintegrations ever caught on film.

I never knew Hellfire missiles made guys fly!

Will we keep sending terrorists to Allah after January 20, 2009?

Dunno. I'm starting to think yes, given that President-elect D'ohbama seems to change his mind the second he's criticized.

If we scream loud enough, I think he'll let us win in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Posted by: Tom W. at November 08, 2008 01:22 AM (dOzJU)

24 Can one of the aviators identify what that aircraft was by the HUD pattern? AH64-series maybe?

Posted by: SGT Dan at November 08, 2008 01:22 AM (8Tq4X)

25 Ruh-roh.

Posted by: mesablue at November 08, 2008 01:26 AM (5yNaE)

26 Thanks for adding the link, mesablue. Sorry, running a forum, email, reading blogs, blog comments, and looking for more war porn at the same time.

Any Open Blogger is free to update any of my posts at any time as long as it's related to the post.

Posted by: Vinnie at November 08, 2008 01:29 AM (idf83)

27 AAaaaaaannnndd, I'm spent.

Ahhh

Posted by: moronizer at November 08, 2008 01:30 AM (n++Yj)

28 Moronizer has just left his bunk.

Posted by: Vinnie at November 08, 2008 01:30 AM (idf83)

29 Just messing with ya, Vinnie.

Xbrad stole the video from me and I shamed him into giving me credit -- it's just your turn.

Posted by: mesablue at November 08, 2008 01:31 AM (5yNaE)

30 Pimp my own blog, why thank you, I will... some good apache pron...

Posted by: XBradTC at November 08, 2008 01:31 AM (6vAfW)

31 I liked the vid so much, I wet myself and forgot common courtesy to mesa. I am again humbled and beg his forgiveness.

Posted by: XBradTC at November 08, 2008 01:32 AM (6vAfW)

32 Warmongers.

Posted by: Liberal4Life at November 08, 2008 01:33 AM (8HH1K)

33 I guess I'm not a very good warmonger, since Iran still has two stones stacked upon one another....

Posted by: XBradTC at November 08, 2008 01:36 AM (6vAfW)

34 I was downtown for Operation Al Fajr (Phantom Fury was a much cooler name) and you would have been lucky to find stacked stones.  There were areas of Fallujah where it looked like we set back their urbanization 200 years...which would be awesome if that wasn't some poor bastard's neighborhood.  AQI chose where to take the stand - we responded in kind, houses be damned.

Posted by: blankminde at November 08, 2008 01:40 AM (8HH1K)

35 Added the ones from your link with proper attribution, Brad.

Pimping gets you everywhere.

Any other Open Bloggers with some good war porn feel free to update, the wife wants sex, and who am I to disappoint her?

Posted by: Vinnie at November 08, 2008 01:41 AM (idf83)

36 Leveling buildings is the ultimate goal of treehugging liberals.  I support your efforts to turn the clock back on an era of repressive industrialization.

Posted by: Liberal4Life at November 08, 2008 01:41 AM (8HH1K)

37 We have the best major league war porn team as seen in the thread post because we also have a great farm league   http://tiny.cc/sLNqk

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 08, 2008 01:42 AM (MOdlB)

38

Anyone know of a company that makes new versions of the Enfield rifle for cheap? Gibbs Rifle Co. used to make one for under $200, but they are gone unfortunately.

One of Obama's main gun targets will be semi-autos, so I'm looking for an inexpensive bolt action that's good for defense. Any decent military surplus or copy of a military surplus will do. Military surplus type rifles will have metal sights, no need for a scope. I prefer .308, because of ammo availability.

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at November 08, 2008 01:42 AM (dHRpI)

39 I can provide war porn from them to us if anyone wants to see what the Iraqi propaganda was like.  Its long, but the production values are sadly impressive.

Posted by: blankminde at November 08, 2008 01:43 AM (8HH1K)

40 adolfo_velasquez
Why get a new version of the Enfield the old ones are plentiful and cheap still if you don't want pretty. The SKS is also essentially a .308 I know not bolt action but reliable. Get thee to a gun show and buy, $200 is plenty for what you describe.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 08, 2008 01:51 AM (MOdlB)

41 I've seen enough of their shit to last a lifetime, blankminde. No thanks.

Posted by: Vinnie at November 08, 2008 01:52 AM (idf83)

42 I'm feeling generous: http://tinyurl.com/5ma3k7

I really don't know how many Americans saw shit like this so watch at your own risk.  You deserve access...especially with Nov 11 looming ahead.

Posted by: blankminde at November 08, 2008 01:52 AM (8HH1K)

43 As have I Vinnie.  Some people haven't though and seeing it has a profound way of reminding you that we weren't just over there playing rock, paper, scissors or something.  If you don't want it out there just delete my link - I understand.

Posted by: blankminde at November 08, 2008 01:56 AM (8HH1K)

44 32 Warmongers.

Posted by: Liberal4Life at November 08, 2008 01:33 AM (8HH1K)

Fag.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at November 08, 2008 01:58 AM (pY77a)

45 @44

Indeed.

Posted by: blankminde at November 08, 2008 02:03 AM (8HH1K)

46 I'm not going to delete your link, blankminde. Thanks, the Jawas are on it. Let them post that shit on Saudi servers, not American ones.

Posted by: Vinnie at November 08, 2008 02:03 AM (idf83)

47 Vinnie - you're back 11 minutes later?

Posted by: Swegin at November 08, 2008 02:05 AM (q0Z3p)

48 That video was recruitment video we pulled before taking some folks out during one of my deployments.  Tell Jawa its down. 

That wasn't their site anymore - they're all basking in virgins.  That was my memento.

Posted by: blankminde at November 08, 2008 02:08 AM (8HH1K)

49

Why get a new version of the Enfield the old ones are plentiful and cheap still if you don't want pretty. The SKS is also essentially a .308 I know not bolt action but reliable. Get thee to a gun show and buy, $200 is plenty for what you describe.

 Thanks. I didn't realize the older Enfields were common. I know a lot more about handguns than rifles, but Obama's helped me see the light on how valuable a rifle will be in the coming utopia. I would get an SKS, but I'm worried that they may not just be banned, but confiscated.

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at November 08, 2008 02:13 AM (dHRpI)

50 She's fast, Swegin, very fast.

Posted by: Vinnie at November 08, 2008 02:14 AM (idf83)

51 Blankeminde, we're going to get the video removed from Google. Like I said, let them post that shit on their own servers, not ours.

Posted by: Vinnie at November 08, 2008 02:15 AM (idf83)

52 Welcome back home, blankminde

Posted by: DPR VIII at November 08, 2008 02:17 AM (4XUD3)

53 Maybe I wasn't clear.  That video was mine on Google (not indexed, just uploaded.)  I worked to destroy these propaganda cells for 8 months during my 3rd deployment to Fallujah/Ramadi and that was a souvenir that I have.  A memento.  The guys that made it can't take it down because they don't exist anymore.  I removed it.  If its any consolation they died badly.

Posted by: blankminde at November 08, 2008 02:19 AM (8HH1K)

54 The Norinco Type 68 SKS is very nice and can take a high capacity 30 round magazine.

Posted by: Travis at November 08, 2008 02:19 AM (uOj//)

55 Thanks DPR VIII.  I've been home for awhile now.  I am actually a little sorry that I won't get to see this peaceful new Iraq.  It was always really bad while I was deployed...not at all like now.  I hear they're safer than Chicago these days.

Posted by: blankminde at November 08, 2008 02:24 AM (8HH1K)

56 Man 3 deployments. I don't know what we would do without you guys. The entire leftist party don't have the guts you guys got in one ball hair.

Posted by: Hellfire at November 08, 2008 02:28 AM (AcZF0)

57

If its any consolation they died badly.

Thank you very much for your service. I hope they had a few minutes of misery before they went.

The Norinco Type 68 SKS is very nice and can take a high capacity 30 round magazine.

I like SKS's and they're cheap, but I'm worried about confiscation of those evil assault weapons. I want a combat bolt action to supplement that gap.

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at November 08, 2008 02:29 AM (dHRpI)

58 Sorry, blankminde, I did misunderstand. I'll take down the Jawa post. Thanks for your sacrifice, your service, and visiting vengeance for us.


Posted by: Vinnie at November 08, 2008 02:32 AM (idf83)

59 You can run, but you'll just die tired.

Posted by: moronizer at November 08, 2008 02:33 AM (n++Yj)

60 Happy Veterans' Day to all who served. Welcome home to all warriors.  Thank you for your service. I pray for you every night.

Word is President-elect D'ohbama is already weaseling out of his commitment to surrender in Iraq, after having talks with people who really know what's going on and aren't ridiculous affirmative-action frauds.

Wonder if Petraeus had a heart-to-heart with the new Buffoon-in-Chief...

Posted by: Tom W. at November 08, 2008 02:34 AM (dOzJU)

61

blankminde - Marine Corps?

Posted by: DPR VIII at November 08, 2008 02:44 AM (4XUD3)

62

I like SKS's and they're cheap, but I'm worried about confiscation of those evil assault weapons. I want a combat bolt action to supplement that gap.

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez

Do you have to register your firearms purchase in your state?

Posted by: Travis at November 08, 2008 02:45 AM (uOj//)

63 56 - I feel sorry for them.  Having no concept of liberty or what it is to care for something so much that you would die for it they live hollow lives playing hacky sack and talking about how awesome April 21st is.  Poor liberals.

57 - Which is worse?  The gunshot wound, or finding out that you based your violent existence on a lie?  I like to picture hell as Dante did, which is to say Islamic adherents are giving blow jobs to pack animals round the clock.  I never did understand Dante.

58 - I should have been clearer.  It is surprisingly dangerous for a military person to divulge info on the internet and I was being somewhat vague intentionally.  I watch that video every year because it would be disgusting to me if I didn't.  Complacency works towards our enemy's goal, not ours.  I guess I need to remind myself why I hate them so that I don't start hating for "hate's sake."

I'm headed to bed folks.  If you see a "C-130 rollin' down the strip" tell them I'm long gone.

Posted by: blankminde at November 08, 2008 02:51 AM (8HH1K)

64 61 - yes.  Active and enlisted.  I get to actually make the shit sandwich and then partake DEEPLY.

Posted by: blankminde at November 08, 2008 02:52 AM (8HH1K)

65 Semper Fi, fucker.

Posted by: DPR VIII at November 08, 2008 02:55 AM (4XUD3)

66 Do you have to register your firearms purchase in your state?

Posted by: Travis

No, but I'm not sure how longlasting or widespread the background check paperwork is. I'd love to get a short SKS - I think they're called paratrooper SKS's, but I'm just really nervous about confiscation.

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at November 08, 2008 03:06 AM (dHRpI)

67
They likely do have a record of who bought what, despite any law on the books that say they shouldn't.

Something like the Remington 700 is bolt-action and comes in several different calibres. If your a smaller guy, or want your girlfriend to use it as well, cut back on the calibre.

The 7.62x39 Russian round is a lower powered round than the .303/.308.

I have a .303 Lee-Enfield 'Jungle Carbine' and a standard version. Don't really like the carbine as it has a hellevu kick due to the reduced weight. The standard version is all right though.

Posted by: Travis at November 08, 2008 03:18 AM (uOj//)

68 Thanks for the tips, Travis.

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at November 08, 2008 03:25 AM (dHRpI)

69 Ref the first video.

It occurs to me that all those walls, instead of being shields, were sources of additional shrapnel!

Posted by: Arthur at November 08, 2008 03:29 AM (okzMG)

70 I like how they fire around them, make them run and only after that, kill them.

Posted by: Swegin at November 08, 2008 03:37 AM (q0Z3p)

71 Yo Vinnie, you'll be pleased to know I am the proud owner of a bitchin' new Glock 22.  I'm on the hunt for some high-capacity magazines now.
Next on the list:  I dunno, but something else that will be banned under the Zero Administration.  I'm thinking an assault rifle. 

Posted by: Beth at November 08, 2008 03:41 AM (yqiXY)

72 Tom W.:
Wonder if Petraeus had a heart-to-heart with the new Buffoon-in-Chief...

That would be called a "wall-to-wall." 

Posted by: Beth at November 08, 2008 03:45 AM (yqiXY)

73 Hey blankminde -

THANKS.  Really.

Posted by: Beth at November 08, 2008 03:50 AM (yqiXY)

74 Hey Adolfo - your SKS (youtube link, new tab).



Posted by: Beth at November 08, 2008 04:17 AM (yqiXY)

75 Hey Adolfo - your SKS (youtube link, new tab).

Posted by: Beth at November 08, 2008 04:17 AM (yqiXY)


I have the Norinco but it sure as hell ain't full auto. 'Bump Fire' I have never seen that before. Not much point though as you can empty a mag so fast, full auto would be a waste of ammo. Looks kinda fun though!


p.s. How do you do the hyperlink?

Posted by: Travis at November 08, 2008 04:28 AM (uOj//)

76

Adolho ____  look for a 2A1 Enfield   ugly as hell but most are almost new (made 65-67 I think) but never used much and good shooters.

You will need NATO ammo or a reduced load ammo for them, but its available.

A couple hundred should be an ok price.

Posted by: Farmer at November 08, 2008 05:30 AM (c9fg+)

77 Go Beth!

I don't believe that any weapons ban will be retroactive.  California tried that many years ago and compliance was so low (maybe 3%) that they repealed the law.

Instead, they will do the same as before, and ban hi-cap magazines and the like, and any new sales of certain rifles.  That means you should pick something out and get it asap, and if there are hi-cap magazines for it, get a bunch of those too (you can always sell them later at a huge profit).

If you're interested in an AR variant, note that a stripped receiver is considered a rifle in the eyes of the law, and all other parts can be bought without an ffl, and they are much cheaper than an assembled rifle.  However, it might be a little late to get a good deal on stripped receivers.  I guy I know got three of them last Wednesday, and right after he purchased them, he heard the guy selling them quote a price $10 higher to the next customer.

That same seller had done $50K of business that day, and it was only about 12:30 pm.  And that was just selling receivers.

Posted by: cranky-d at November 08, 2008 05:47 AM (kt4mn)

78

You keep using this phrase, "war porn."

I do not  think you know what "war porn" means.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at November 08, 2008 08:16 AM (ocdrW)

79

The vids are from AH-64's (D's for the most part, a few looked to be A-Model symbology or early D-model).

The gun is 30mm and has a High-Explosive, Dual Purpose (HEDP) round that has about a 3-meter burst radius.  It effecitvely makes hamburger meat out of the human body.

Nice site, BTW.

Posted by: Darn Sillius at November 08, 2008 08:47 AM (oLY/S)

80 Mmmmm. Nothing like waking up to a nice big bowl of bad-guy-killin' goodness!

Posted by: Pavel at November 08, 2008 09:35 AM (/jsnH)

81

Anyone consider what the other armies think when they see this shit?

I bet it scares the shit out of them.  Don't come around knocking on our doors MFers.

Posted by: kempermanx at November 08, 2008 10:30 AM (2+9Yx)

82

You guys have to watch the first vid with this song in the background. It's the song from the new Watchmen trailer. Makes it 100 times better, IMO.

youtube.com/watch?v=Cv58c1JAsdY

Posted by: Nick at November 08, 2008 10:59 AM (aBCqx)

83

Did anyone else notice that the second-to-last video is a "Truther" commercial, packed with egregious anti-American bullshit (much of it stampedwith the famous "exploding asshole" logo of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation?

Give it around two minutes ... the last eight "prove that 9/11 was an inside job."

D'you vet this stuff before you post it? Just askin'... 

Posted by: Fred Pennsylvania at November 08, 2008 12:59 PM (PgTg8)

84 This is one of my favorite bits of wahr pron. (mostly for the sound)

Posted by: Will at November 08, 2008 01:09 PM (oj5wx)

85 Check this out:

A-10 near-miss on British troops.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e42_1209238794

These things happen in war. I'm only posting it because it's the only video I've ever seen that gives you an idea of what it's like to be on the receiving end of this stuff.

Posted by: Tom W. at November 08, 2008 01:42 PM (dOzJU)

86

Just in these clips alone there are A LOT of hurtin' targets!  If one counted up all the bad guys zapped in all the war pron videos would we be in 5 figures?  It has to suck to be a bad guy facing us.

Re. home arsenal - bolt action is a good idea, since ammo will be at least as restricted as the guns in the future.  You'll want to be ready and able to load your own, and even then you'll have limited supply.  You'll want to prepare yourself to make every shot count like it is your last, and bolt action will help.  Better still - learn black powder.

Posted by: Glenmore at November 08, 2008 02:37 PM (Kk+Y9)

87

Upon further reflection, perhaps a good crossbow would be in order (I don't have one --- yet.)  Less range, but quieter, and no smoke.

Posted by: Glenmore at November 08, 2008 02:55 PM (Kk+Y9)

88 This is interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUwCtQDVPyg

Dutch troops fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan.

There isn't much to see, but if you listen carefully, you'll hear them saying "fuck," and "motherfucker" and "hoo-ah."

Nice to hear our allies picking up proper American military phraseology.

They also use the Dutch word "lul" a lot, with means "dick" or "prick," and also "gek," which means crazy.

I think they're laughing at at all the crazy dicks they're killing.

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