Citizen Video of Black Panthers<br>Update: Voting Twice in Philly

Citizen Video of Black Panthers
Update: Voting Twice in Philly

Thanks to Scott.

Voting Twice: "It's jiust totally ridiculous."

Philly Man Tells Reporter He Voted "A Couple of Times:" Reporter Asks No Follow-Up, Shows No Curiosity Whatsoever: Our news sleuths follow any good story, no matter where it goes.

Posted by: Ace at 03:05 PM

Comments

1 Can I ask if the front page can be pruned down a little bit? And IIRC videos above the fold cause problems. Excellent video btw.

Posted by: Al at November 04, 2008 03:08 PM (Lk931)

2 They are soooooo busted!

Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at November 04, 2008 03:08 PM (iYbLN)

3 Take a look at your new civillian task force that will be as well funded as our military.

Posted by: Teh uh-uh-uhn at November 04, 2008 03:08 PM (dwWnk)

4 Welcome to life in the Obama Nation.

Posted by: Mrs. Hinx at November 04, 2008 03:09 PM (hqhwi)

5 Ok our nightmare a now reality.

Posted by: Long Island at November 04, 2008 03:09 PM (80802)

I still think the more important stories are voter suppression phone calls in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania (hugely important for McCain) telling people their polling places had been changed.

And kicking Republican pollwatchers out of over half a dozen polling places in Philadelphia (so ballot boxes could be stuffed).

These are at least as important. How is CNN doing covering them?

Posted by: Christoph at November 04, 2008 03:09 PM (hawOV)

7 Something to send to all of your undecided friends on the Left coast who have not voted yet.

Posted by: shibumi at November 04, 2008 03:09 PM (tZB/c)

8
Yep, lets make sure the big cities become completely like third world shitholes.

Are these clowns recruiting for Obies private army? I was wondering what kinds of things that Civilian Army would do and now I see it.

Posted by: billypaintbrush at November 04, 2008 03:10 PM (zGSCr)

9 I was just arrested for armed battery.

I was making a call on my mobile phone. The person on the other end pressed charges.

I hope the Black Panther office takes my phone call asking for their public defense.

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at November 04, 2008 03:10 PM (VeUJ4)

10 For God sakes, that's pretty clear video evidence. They have to have violated at least an election law. Wielding a weapon open at a polling place? I can't believe that is legal.

Posted by: Christoph at November 04, 2008 03:10 PM (hawOV)

11 That's quite a pen-sword moment there. Pretty powerful anecdote.

Posted by: Cuffy Meigs at November 04, 2008 03:11 PM (uOvAE)

12 Breaking news: Black Panthers spotted outside polling booths in Ohio. [gay porn posted by lefty asshole]

Posted by: Garry at November 04, 2008 03:11 PM (wXypd)

13 Everything y'all are saying or thinking is racist.

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at November 04, 2008 03:11 PM (TXp3z)

14 #12 leads to a pornographic image.

Posted by: Benson at November 04, 2008 03:12 PM (qzcNU)

15 Hey Ace,,Fox news has been taken of the air and replaced with History Channel where I'm located.

Posted by: KeithinNC at November 04, 2008 03:12 PM (RRn9E)

16 At least they have jobs.

Posted by: Russell Ziskey at November 04, 2008 03:14 PM (LlaBi)

17 I cannot believe CNN, they reported a woman DOING A COIN TOSS for who she'd vote for, yet nothing on this.

Posted by: watchdog at November 04, 2008 03:14 PM (yCbBv)

18 Garry

You're pathetic.

Posted by: Dr. Manhattan at November 04, 2008 03:15 PM (o1ZtJ)

19 This is an internet feed of FoxNews. Reassemble the URL. At the bottom of the video of the guy in the chair are three colored lines. Those are actually buttons. The one on the right is "Change Channel. Change to channel two.

http://tvpc.com/
Channel.php?
ChannelID=1520

Posted by: Al at November 04, 2008 03:15 PM (Lk931)

Crap like that would MAKE me want to go there and vote.

With camera in hand.

Posted by: Bosk at November 04, 2008 03:15 PM (+aNmG)

21 here is some good news: i vote in a very republican precinct.in NC.my friend and neighboor is a poll worker...he told me that turn out was huge. biggest ever! he said we we already at 300% what normally votes and that was before lunch!

Posted by: duncan at November 04, 2008 03:16 PM (gjUaP)

22 So, he says he's providing security? For whom? Who hired him? Is he there at someones behest? Is he a concerned private citizen? Why is he concerned that a citizen is taking pictures of him? Does he have something to hide?

Posted by: XBradTC at November 04, 2008 03:16 PM (6vAfW)

23 and all this time, i thought camera phones were post-racial.

Posted by: Fred Ralista at November 04, 2008 03:16 PM (aNUVC)

24 " Yep, lets make sure the big cities become completely like third world shitholes."

I got news for you #8, most of them already are in most places.

Posted by: Hedgehog at November 04, 2008 03:16 PM (aDOKh)

25 Why haven't these men been arrested for voter intimidation?

Posted by: SarahW at November 04, 2008 03:16 PM (7sl9X)

26 Hope, Change, Intimidation. This fucking Obama crowd is like the Borg.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 04, 2008 03:20 PM (OqXyp)

27 Video of the Philly PD taking the Black Panthers away.

Link- Election Journal

The video is brief. It just shows the Philly PD actually moving the guys away from the door.

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at November 04, 2008 03:21 PM (VeUJ4)

28 Why haven't these men been arrested for voter intimidation?

Why haven't they been double tapped as enemies of democracy?

K

Posted by: Kestrel♠ at November 04, 2008 03:21 PM (mlwxj)

29 Disturbing stuff, and surprisingly heavy-handed.

Those guys look kind of .... scruffy. Watched without audio so I couldn't hear whether they're slurring words or what. But I can damn near smell the chronic coming out of my laptop when I play that vid..

Somehow I don't think these guys have the discipline to be truly dangerous on a larger level. Low level, and relatively incompetent street crime is their forte, I think.

The very natty NOI guys in their bow ties and suits however, they're scary on a whole different level. I'd be more worried if they were doing this rather than the neoPanthers.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 04, 2008 03:21 PM (Ds4I5)

30 Gabriel Sutherland, that video is "no longer available."

What's going on?

Posted by: Hedgehog at November 04, 2008 03:22 PM (aDOKh)

31 Was that footage from Zimbabwe? Just tell them you're voting for Mugabe and you'll be fine.

Posted by: Dudley Smith at November 04, 2008 03:23 PM (0S8Xt)

32 Does anyone hear Obama's statements regarding "civil" security yesterday? How did he word that exactly? Perhaps it was a call to action...

Posted by: robin at November 04, 2008 03:23 PM (+XpCx)

33 lol

Josh Marshall about an hour ago.

Republicans trying to suppress the vote in Philly. Shocking.

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at November 04, 2008 03:23 PM (VeUJ4)

34 Of course they're voting twice!

I suspect the Dem's lawyers are right now petitioning the courts to keep the polling places open late in Philly, Kansas City, St Louis, Cincinatti, and Cleveland.

And the liberal judges are sitting their waiting for them.

Posted by: Bart at November 04, 2008 03:23 PM (t9PoL)

35 I blame Bush, his Justice Department was too busy going after Tan Ngyen and those Border Patrol agents to actually go after these thugs and their various ACORN machinations.

The thing is is that this stuff isn't going to be fixed anytime soon.

Posted by: joeindc44 at November 04, 2008 03:24 PM (QxSug)

Is the guy with the nightstick this guy??

Can�t see the tattoos on his face in the video, but the resemblance is palpable otherwise.

Posted by: Alex at November 04, 2008 03:24 PM (fgyj8)

37 Sorry, it's back up.

Posted by: Hedgehog at November 04, 2008 03:24 PM (aDOKh)

38 By the way, "this guy" is Minister King Samir Shabazz, chairman of the New Black Panther Party's Philadelphia chapter.

Posted by: Alex at November 04, 2008 03:25 PM (fgyj8)

39 reporting voter fraud = suppressing the vote

Posted by: Bart at November 04, 2008 03:25 PM (t9PoL)

40 Try this video. The first link was to Electionjournal.org. This link is direct to Youtube.

http://tinyurl.com/5vy3cf

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at November 04, 2008 03:25 PM (VeUJ4)

41 Silly clingers! Can't you see these guys are just volunteering as poll greeters? In the spirit of civic stewardship, no less.

"Welcome to Barry-world!! Your papers, please."

Posted by: bunny boy at November 04, 2008 03:25 PM (YsSn7)

42 Is the guy with the nightstick this guy??

Yep. That's Minister Shabazz all right.

Posted by: Gabriel Sutherland at November 04, 2008 03:26 PM (VeUJ4)

43 Civilian task force... thats right.

Posted by: robin at November 04, 2008 03:27 PM (+XpCx)

44 Sorry I tried to vote in the middle of your Black Panther party.

Posted by: Forrest Gump at November 04, 2008 03:27 PM (EgSHa)

45 Rush is playing this video.

Posted by: Editor at November 04, 2008 03:28 PM (GTpOW)

46 If Barry wins, and these thugs are part of his civilian force ala Mugabe, just let them try to come out west and try to intimidate us..we will go down fighting before we give in these bastards.

Posted by: IC at November 04, 2008 03:28 PM (jZNCU)

47 Remind me again. Which party fights tooth and nail every time against voter ID cards?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 04, 2008 03:28 PM (E6GUg)

48 Shabazz, from an article in the Philly paper 10/28 - the first thing that comes up after googling his name:

But Shabazz is more blunt in his views:

* On whites: "I'm about the total destruction of white people. I'm about the total liberation of black people. I hate white people. I hate my enemy. . . ."

* On Jews: "I don't care how much they try to promote the Jewish Holocaust. The African people have suffered a hell of a cost. . . . "

* On Barack Obama and voting: "He's a puppet on a string. I don't support no black man running for white politics. I will not vote for who will be the next slavemaster." Besides, he added, Obama is "a Negro who doesn't even support reparations for black people in America."

* On white supremacists: "They're sissies; they want to put their feelings on a flier. Well, come into the black neighborhood with that rhetoric and we will show you what a strong awakened black man looks like."

* On the Phillies: "They can kiss my ass. The Phillies are not doing nothing for our 'hoods."

Posted by: Cathy (in Chicago) at November 04, 2008 03:29 PM (3xgoE)

I actually do think that his civilian security force will at least have an arm that tries to institutionalize intimidation and thuggery even more. They probably can't do it with everyone, but some of them will be used to do exactly this sort of thing.

In that world I am not sure how brave I will be. In this one I would love the opportunity to walk past these jackboot jackasses to vote.

doug

Posted by: doug at November 04, 2008 03:29 PM (dNitG)

50 This is why I said a few threads ago to take a video camera with you when you vote. A cell phone or pocket camera with video function will do.

Posted by: stace at November 04, 2008 03:29 PM (JO0c/)

51 The video is available; I just watched it seconds ago at approx. 2:29

Posted by: andycanuck at November 04, 2008 03:29 PM (GGy7k)

The very natty NOI guys in their bow ties and suits however, they're scary on a whole different level. I'd be more worried if they were doing this rather than the neoPanthers.

They are tied at the hip. One is the public face, such as it is, the other is the militant arm. And they both have publicly endorsed Obama.

Yea, he's gonna heal the racial divide in this country.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2008 03:30 PM (VW9/y)

53 BTW, Ace, when are you going to fix the "Fall back" clock time?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 04, 2008 03:30 PM (GGy7k)

in the video where the Philly cops show up, notice how they had to be told that the one guy had a weapon. Then the cops didn't even take the weapon away from the guy! Philly is such a crap hole! I should know. I lived there most of my life.

Welcome to the Obamanation!

Posted by: Jim King at November 04, 2008 03:31 PM (7ofNn)

320,000 Republican/Union soldiers, d. 1861-1865, could not be reached for comment.

Motherfuckers.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 04, 2008 03:31 PM (69J41)

56 #26

Sums up Teh One's entire campaign. PUMAs will testify to that.

Here's what Reagan said back in '64. "...defines liberalism as "meeting the material needs of the masses through the full power of centralized government." Well, I for one resent it when a representative of the people refers to you and me--the free man and woman of this country--as "the masses." This is a term we haven't applied to ourselves in America. But beyond that, "the full power of centralized government"--this was the very thing the Founding Fathers sought to minimize. They knew that governments don't control things. A government can't control the economy without controlling people. And they know when a government sets out to do that, it must use force and coercion to achieve its purpose."

That is what will happen if His Holiness is elected.

Posted by: Dr.Cwac.Cwac at November 04, 2008 03:31 PM (EhpPw)

57 Classic: "I have a camera phone, which is not a weapon."

I voted this AM in Santa Barbara and the worst liar on the planet tried to come in and vote being listed as "vote by mail." They asked her if she had voted and her answer, no lie, was, "Uh, I guess not." Luckily, the poll folks (~70ish) sent her to the provisional ballot guy who asked, "Didn't you get your ballot in the mail?"
She said, "Uhm, I think I didn't, can't I vote here?"

Un....be....lieve...able! And in Califronia...why?

Posted by: jawbone at November 04, 2008 03:32 PM (JalPh)

58 Voting twice is no big deal. They are probably a bunch of people who won't vote once, so it kinda evens out.

Posted by: Steve L. at November 04, 2008 03:35 PM (o0YD+)

59 See Obama's post in Daily KOS post in 2005. There is no question he plans is to drive out the moderates to sharpen the divide. He calls progressives to not vilify him while he appears centrist in order to usher in the new progressive era. And PUMAs need to see this especially... in fact they should go ahead and fax it to Hillary:
http://www.dailykos.com/
story/2005/9/30/
102745/165

Posted by: robin at November 04, 2008 03:39 PM (+XpCx)

I thought that video was debunked already. It was supposed to have been filmed in front of a bar down on Polk St. in Frisco. Snazzy outfits!

Actually, those guys had tried out for the ZANU-PF election protection force in Zimbabwe, but were sent home and told to return after they "grew a pair".

Posted by: Roy at November 04, 2008 03:41 PM (cB77O)

61 You can't expect CNN to cover everything. They are probably following up a rumor that Gov. Palin got new shoes.

Posted by: the real joe at November 04, 2008 03:46 PM (NJ/RA)

62 So the shirts will be black, then? Nice to know that's been decided.

Posted by: Mr. Rogers at November 04, 2008 03:47 PM (Gzb30)

BTW, Ace, when are you going to fix the "Fall back" clock time?

He'll get around to it about 6 months from now.

Posted by: Andy at November 04, 2008 03:49 PM (C3mTI)

64 I noticed when the lady was checking off my name, that my brother is still on the voter list here in PA. He's been registered and has voted in Florida for the past 6 years. And there's No ID requirement here. I wonder how many empty-nesters vote multiple times for their out of state children?

Posted by: Joanie at November 04, 2008 03:52 PM (Z9tCp)

65 Awright, just got back from voting here in Venice, CA. Probably about 70-80 people in front of me, I don't think I've ever seen more than 8 or 10 before. Pretty amazing turnout. I think a lot of people are being driven by Prop 8 (mostly voting no, from the looks of them).

Now it's just drunk blogging for the rest of the day.

McCain is going to win this thing, guys! It's gonna be sooooooo awesome!

Posted by: CB at November 04, 2008 03:55 PM (9Wv2j)

I laughed until I realized I should be crying

BTW, thats a pretty black district (I live in Philly).

Those guys have cojones

Posted by: Mr. Happy at November 04, 2008 03:56 PM (waaUg)

67 What video was debunked?
You're not talking about the video on this post, are you?

A cursory glance at Google Streetview shows that this video was indeed filmed outside of 1221 Fairmount in Philly.
For the best view, type in 1262 Fairmount.

Posted by: Cathy (in Chicago) at November 04, 2008 03:58 PM (3xgoE)

Some lawyer friends of mine are acting as roving poll watchers here in Durham, NC, and reported that when they told the Democrat precinct judge that they were observing voter irregularities (people clustered around a table sharing their ballot info rather than voting individually), the precinct judge (Kate Bartlett, a former Duke law school dean, I kid you not) said "I don't really agree with that rule, so I'm not going to enforce it."

They produced a printout of the NC statute that states in no uncertain terms that voters are supposed to vote individually, but she continued to argue with them rather than agree to enforce it.

So, former law school dean, what's the point of having laws again? Because I don't remember the part that says "if you don't agree with this law, you don't have to follow it." In fact I'm pretty sure that that attitude would lead to the downfall of the entire legal system. But that's just me!

Posted by: Average Jen at November 04, 2008 03:58 PM (OINAg)

69 ... when you see that pig, you've got to take the opportunity and you've got to off that pig. you know what i talking about...

Posted by: phreshone at November 04, 2008 04:05 PM (oH2N4)

70 Cathy, sorry, I forgot the /sarc tag.

Posted by: Roy at November 04, 2008 04:12 PM (cB77O)

71 If CNN were to cover this vote fraud, please understand that it would likely cost them access to President Hussein.

Posted by: Jordan Eason at November 04, 2008 04:16 PM (5aa4z)

72 Roy,

Heh - it's not you, it's me.
I'm a little "off" today.

"Are you picking up on my sarcasm? Good, 'cause I'm laying it on prrretty thick."

Posted by: Cathy (in Chicago) at November 04, 2008 04:16 PM (3xgoE)

73 Unfortunate someone didnt show up with an assault rifle and clean this scum off of the street.

Posted by: metro at November 04, 2008 04:17 PM (WUSks)

It's time to bring the purple fingers here.

Consider this: It is currently easier to vote multiple times in America than in Iraq.

That's just wrong.

Marking people's fingers will make it much more difficult. Currently, there is pretty much nothing that stops people from doing it.

Posted by: TallDave at November 04, 2008 04:19 PM (/s1LA)

75 which is why today I am carrying. Something to go with my McCain/Palin bumper sticker.

Too many of these asshats out there.

Posted by: iconoclast at November 04, 2008 04:51 PM (ex0JG)

#11, the pen is mightier than the sword, though the sword does speak louder at any given moment.

#28, because it's not time yet.

Posted by: SGT Dan at November 04, 2008 05:04 PM (Q6BTe)

77 Not content with the Chicago way, Obongo is now bringing the Kenyan way.

Posted by: Son of a Pig and a Monkey at November 04, 2008 05:05 PM (KsxrY)

78 It's 2 guys standing in front of a building. They weren't stopping people from voting. The guy with the camera sounded like he was about to piss his pants.

Posted by: Justin at November 04, 2008 05:05 PM (36aWY)

79 Will the Media mention that the New Black Panther Party was listed as a supporter on Obama's website until the bloggers outted it and they took it down?

Posted by: Dkshideler at November 04, 2008 05:46 PM (83iEc)

80 Wow, and some blacks talked about how whites were doing this in the past and now here they are doing it themselves. So much for equal rights!

Posted by: Armed Woman at November 04, 2008 07:31 PM (LcXia)

They didn't identify themselves as "Black Panthers".

"Good. You White Racist Republicans have learned to control your fear. Now, release your anger, only your anger can destroy me!" - Darth Obama

Posted by: Darth Obama at November 04, 2008 08:01 PM (oYEik)

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