1 WTF?  No flaming skull ?

2 I, for one, welcome the coming Dark Ages.

3 Note the hit counter is stuck on this one.  Pisses me off b/c I want people to see that this is going viral.  BTW, I second flaming skull (or at least its consideration).

4 Skull skull!

5 I sent this video to Ace about an hour ago.  Good for you Nice Deb for getting it out too.  Puma's and Freepers are working on getting this out to news organization also.  I know Drudge as been sent this but his page hasn't reflected that yet.

6 This should be a headline on Drudge. I've tipped him with it and I'm sure others have. Nothing. I hope he puts it up.

7 So what are the chances of getting THAT word out to the coal states in the next 72 hours?  Cha.

http://tiny.cc/KsBgH

8 Well I believe this warrants a flaming skull. This could be the game changer, or a hail-mary pass with no time left on the clock.

9 Flaming skull, Deb. Don't worry, Ace will be cool with it and he'll take it down if he isn't.

But he will. Really. Seriously. This is the story of the day.

If you need help with the coding with the flaming skull, please ask and I'll walk you through it. The file itself is here.

We want it. It's our last best hope to swing this crucial swing state, and Ohio too.

Take the initiative!

10

There needs to be ads up ASAP on this in OH, PA, CO and other coal states.  Also Palin is in OH today and McCain is in PA and they need to hit this hard in their speeches.

11

Jeez, obama, tell us how you really feel about people in Pennsylvania. murtha you can weigh in on that too.

12
"That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches."


Unbelievable, does he not understand the basic economic concept of opportunity cost?

13 BTW, this wouldn't just bankrupt new coal plants.  Existing coal plants would be subject to it as well.

14 Sorry, I don't know how to do a flaming skull. Nobody ever showed me. And now I have to go get ready for church.

15 Everyone knows only racist red-necks mine coal.

16 SKULL SKULL SKULL!

Come on, MCCAIN AND PALIN!!! This is it, the true soundbite that can make an impact. Can and ad even be published in time today to run all day tomorrow and tuesday?

17 Deb, hold off on church for five minutes. Seriously! This is your Christian duty of the day. Obama wants to kill babies.

I'll walk you through how to code it in two seconds. Just hang on!

18 Also think about the industries that do business with coal plants. Like the railroad industry.

19 If Sen. McCain can't (or otherwise doesn't) turn this into an ad that will run tomorrow in those swing states, he doesn't deserve to win.

20 Christ, just grab somebody off the street pour some gas on their head, light it and take a pic of it, you know the old-fashioned way. Shouldn't take a minute or two.

21 You need to contact your GOTV people in PA, OH, KY, IN, IL, WV. These are all coal states, and coal is a big part of their economics.

22 Agreed Daryl, just not sure about the logistics. I'm sure every penny of space has already been bought, so maybe he can swap out another ad?

23

crowd chants:

fla-ming skulls!

fla-ming skulls!

fla-ming skulls!

fla-ming skulls!

fla-ming skulls!

fla-ming skulls!

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24 Nice Deb, this is the code:

<___ src"http://ace.mu.nu/archives/flaming_skull.gif" width="160" height="175" alt="Flaming Skull" />

Just use the editor to place it in the source code.

25 anybody sent this to NRO?

26 Everyone send drudge a note...he covered the "civilian national security force" which is old news, surely will cover this, and HOPEFULLY in armageddon red.

Go to www.drudgereport.com, bottom right is a tip form.

27 There are currently ads running in PA  talking about how McCain plans to cut coal production 72% or some such nonsense and really pushing the development of "clean coal". Obviously this is a big deal to at least western PA. Everywhere you go you see billboards for Consol Energy and their use of coal power. This could be the game changer in PA for McCain if he has the opportunity to get it out there.

28 Buried on a Sunday, or the real October Surprise on Monday, depending on who actually sees it.  This could, and should, destroy Obama in PA.

29 powerlineblog.com is running with it

30 Skull?.

Something wrong with the views on this video and the schwarzenegger video, they both have way more views than are showing. (not for the first time)

31 With that and Nancy Pelosi's "I'm just trying to save the planet", does anyone have any doubt that new drilling for oil is now off the table?

32 Sorry, I made a mistake. THIS is the code:

<___ src="INSERT" width="160" height="175" alt="Flaming Skull" />

Where insert =

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/flaming_skull.gif

Basically, I left off the "equals" sign in the first code I gave you.

33 Agreed Dave J, I really think that if there's an EPIC push by the blogosphere and the MCCAIN CAMP this will be the nail in the coffin in PA, and we can all hail NakedEmporerNews with the greatest hat tip in history. Seriously, rasmussen has Obama up only 4 in PA, this could do it for the Mac.

Also here's an ENCOURAGING FLASHBACK about how the pollsters and Obama got PWNED in the primaries:

http://tinyurl.com/2exju2

34  I, for one, welcome the coming Dark Ages.

Posted by: DelD

LOL!  I can't wait for primae noctus to make a comeback.  If The One becomes President, I can see brides lining up at the White House (that's somehow appropriate for brides, no?) to partake of Barry's, uh, services.  Of course, the Whiney Ass Bitch won't not like it.

35 Well said watchdog!

36 Will someone please explain to me why this douchebag is even within shouting distance of McCain in the polls?

He's pretty much announcing left and right that he is going to f*ck everyone over after throwing rock salt in the lube, and over 50% of the public is lapping it up.

What the f*cking f*ck?

37 Anyone doing the GOTV thing today in a coal state? Perhaps this is something that can be mentioned.

38 Okay, Nice Deb went to church.

Someone who has access to this blog, edit this post to insert the skull at the first possible opportunity. And keep this bumped.

By popular demand! And common sense. Feel free to add damning rhetoric.

Thanks.

Also, if any of you comment at other blogs (like Patterico's, where I can't) that isn't already running this story, please bug them.

39 Here's another vote to make this a skull post.

Qwinn

40 Double skull.

Just sent it to Drudge ,this needs to be headline.

41 This is up on Powerline, its up to the campaign and Drudge now. I've emailed my contact in their webvideo department.

42

soooo, biden was telling the truth about NO NEW COAL PLANTS.

Check out the PAGOP site. THey are running ads on the reverand. This is a different group from GOPTrust.

Also, i have watched the GOP trust ads over and over. They are hammering prime-time with them. CBS shows them at every commercial break from 8-12!

I am betting i see alot of them during football.

Do not give in do not surrender! These last 3 days are the most important.

I have also read alot of reports thats Mac's ground team is far surpassing Bush's in phone calls and door to door!!

This election is ours to win. And win we will.

43

 Will someone please explain to me why this douchebag is even within shouting distance of McCain in the polls?

He's pretty much announcing left and right that he is going to f*ck everyone over after throwing rock salt in the lube, and over 50% of the public is lapping it up.

What the f*cking f*ck?

its not over 50%, only in polls the guy will lose

44

There are also coal plants here in Missouri. http://tinyurl.com/5lvtkj

45 It's all about the free money.  You know the drill.  Free gas and free mortgage money and the chumps fall for the BS. 

46 With this, as with Obama's talk about a "Civilian National Security Force," I tend to dismiss it because I think Obama is just blowing smoke.  If the Dems in Congress actually let him push these policies through, they know Republicans will be resurgent from approx. 2010 through 2020.

The real question is, how much will Nancy Pelosi/Harry Reid attempt to block or slow down Obama's agenda?  How much will they try to push their own agenda items?

47 flaming skull please!

48 Deb, thank you so much for posting this first.

But someone, anyone, we need a stronger lead sentence in addition to the skull.

This isn't just another gem. This could be the whole enchilada.

Write a whole new post if necessary and move this under it!

Flaming beacon!

49 Has the MSM broke any stories in this election cycle or has all the work been done by bloggers with the MSM picking the low lying fruit?

Uh yea, flaming skull please.

50 If only the L.A. Times would release that tape tomorrow, along with this, well that would be some serious double-ball dippage.

51

With this, as with Obama's talk about a "Civilian National Security Force," I tend to dismiss it because I think Obama is just blowing smoke.  If the Dems in Congress actually let him push these policies through, they know Republicans will be resurgent from approx. 2010 through 2020.

The real question is, how much will Nancy Pelosi/Harry Reid attempt to block or slow down Obama's agenda?  How much will they try to push their own agenda items?

you don't understand do you? these people live in their own world, they actually believe everyone hates bush based on approval ratings and that the country is now center-left

52

The pecking order of flaming posts appears to be in order of importance:

1.  Flaming Skull

2.  Flaming Douche

3.  Flaming Dick

4.  Flaming Ears

53 Flaming skull with bells and whistles and oak leaf clusters.  Plus the police lights on Drudge.  Smothered in awesome sauce.

54 Apparently, anyone with the ability to make this a screaming headline are either drunk or sleeping off a drunk. 

55 Wonderful , Herr Messiah Obama had again displayed his impeccable plan to destroy the American economy and the idiotic intelligentsia will approved his message ever so heartily at the expense of the poor and the middle class Americans . It's funny to think that many poor and middle class Americans are stupid enough in electing this man for presidency in exchange for hope and change while in reality they are offering him their ropes to hang themselves in poverty and misery and of course government enforced slavery .

56 I agree with him.  I only want the energy that is harnessed from a beautiful baby phoenix as it is reborn.  Beautiful and pure.

57 54 "Apparently, anyone with the ability to make this a screaming headline are either drunk or sleeping off a drunk. "


...or sleeping under a drunk.

58 I sent a message to Drudge.

59 "If only the L.A. Times would release that tape tomorrow, along with this, well that would be some serious double-ball dippage."

If I were the National Enquirer, I'd offer at least a million dollars and total anonymity to any source at the LAT who'd leak a copy of the tape.  It wouldn't even have to be the whole thing, just enough to be totally damning.

60 You and 10's of thousands of other people (from what I'm reading elsewhere).  The only thing changing on Drudge's screen is the ad at the top.

61 If Ace is indeed sleeping over for comfort, maybe he will accomodate our wishes and detail his night with Rosie O'Donnell, the lesbian with a flaming cuchi.

62 you don't understand do you? these people live in their own world, they actually believe everyone hates bush based on approval ratings and that the country is now center far-left

Fixed for you.

Qwinn

63 Hold on, no Ace, no Drudge,..... naw cant' be.

64 60 You and 10's of thousands of other people (from what I'm reading elsewhere).  The only thing changing on Drudge's screen is the ad at the top.   could drudge and ace be fucking w/ us?

65 I'm working the blog comments and contacts like never before. Let's prod some of our key contacts:

rickdavis@johnmccain.com, ameese@mccain08hq.com, anickel@mccain08hq.com,
johnmccain@gop.com, info@gop.com,
RNCommunications@gop.com, Chairman@gop.com, Political@gop.com
ElRushbo@eibnet.com
me@glennbeck.com
Hannity@foxnews.com
DRUDGE@DRUDGEREPORT.COM
Friends@foxnews.com
Feedback@foxnews.com
Jamie@foxnews.com
Feedback@foxnews.com
Viewerservices@foxnews.com
FNS@foxnews.com
Newswatch@foxnews.com
Foxreport@foxnews.com

66 Sadly, this comment will appeal to a large swath of global warming zombie voters

67 I can't believe drudge. He pimped the old civillian nat force and now is sleeping in

68 DRUDGE HAS IT!!!

But, weakly...

Sometimes he posts quickly then moves to headline...stay tuned

69 66 "Sadly, this comment will appeal to a large swath of global warming zombie voters"

.....whom no doubt live within' about a twenty mile radius of downtown Frisco.

70

BTW, Bill Ayers writing speeches for Obama. (Or Obama plagiarizing Ayers in speeches.) Ghost of a Flea with links to others following this now too (like LGF).

71 Come on Drudge...that's lame!

72 I am emailing the local stations here in Missouri. Will swing over to Pennsylvania next.

73 [Zombietime is the other blog covering it.]

74 Obama says he feels a righteous wind behind him. Fucker thinks even his fart is righteous.

75 they actually believe everyone hates bush based on approval ratings and that the country is now center far-left

Their delusion is premised on a kernel of truth: the common misconception that Bush is a conservative or liked by conservatives.  Jeb should've been the brother to run for the White House: GWB tainted the GOP brand with "compassionate conservative" big-government bullshit.

76 Okay, I tried. Bleh. Sorry. Now I'm late for church. Some one else will have to do it.

77 So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.
<snip>
That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.

Um, does he even realize what he's talking about here?

An action that will on the one hand bankrupt companies, and on the other generate billions of dollars.  I'm just a simple country person, but those seem like two lines that don't intersect.

So, when the coal-fired plants are taxed out of existence and we lose 40% of our baseload power and have to lower the amount of electricity being put into the system, will it be racist to still refer to those conditions as 'brownouts'?

78 Oh, nevermind, it worked!

79 OK, I corrected the Flamey McBonehead code. How do I center it?

80

Jesus Christo - I'm orgasmic, it's the flaming skull!

81 Thanks Deb!

82 Interesting post. Coincidentally, I have 4 pieces of coal shoved up my ass right now.

83 Thanks Nice Deb!!

84 Flaming Skull !! Flaming Skull !! I gotta fuckin' fever, and the only prescription is more Flaming Skull !!

85 You know what I love most about living in Canada? Plenty of snow available to stuff in my asshole on a lonely Saturday night.

86

YO.....fucking GOOGLE is in on this cap and trade bullshit as well.

http://tinyurl.com/3poxpc

87 It's on Drudge. Not the headline yet.

88 Keep chugging that Kool-Aid, DD...

89

The only thing to complete this day beyond the flaming skull is more cowbell!

Let it ring!

90 Very nice flaming skull. I got a woody.

91

you did ok deb, it's just that it should be in the middle

 

now to drudge: listen mother fucker, this is a red headline screaming that stupid red alert light thingy of yours, so fucker put this up red or fucking move out of the way as we try to save this country from a fucking socialist

92

The only thing to complete this day beyond the flaming skull is more cowbell!

Let it ring!

join the rays republic as we defend our al championship next baseballseason,and you'll get your cowbell ;-)

93 YRM: well said, I am baffled at my boy D right now

94 @79:
<p>
<center>
<___ src="PASTE_URL_HERE">
</center>
</p>

PASTE_URL_HERE=http://ace.mu.nu/archives/flaming_skull.gif

95 Shut the fuck up, dd!!

96 A search of "Biden & coal" turned up a lot of juicy stuff.  The One's campaign tried to treat Biden's statement that there would be no coal plants built in America as a "gaffe", and it was -- he accidentally revealed the truth. 

97 Well done with the flaming skull! I should have told you how to center it, but that was my damn fault.

<div style="center">
IMAGE CODE AS ABOVE
</div>

It's off kilter, but I love it.

Now go to church and pray with your precious loved ones.

98

Obama may win, but it sure as fuck isnt going to be a landslide. I speak as a resident of swingin' PA. Obamas got the welfare mommys and the sofuckingrichwedonthavetoworryaboutmoney white folk. THats it.

I suspect the same applies in MO, NC, VA, OH, and FL

It'll be w/in the MOE at best for the messiahcunt

99 I agree Drudge needs to finish off that fuckin' bagel and coffee, and get on the stick. That was some weak shit he put up.

100 You know what those big smokestacks that coal factories have look like?

COCK!

101 Actually, it kind of looks cool off center.

102 Red font! I never even thought of that. F'n awesome.

103 Gee, I burn coal in my airtight. Does this mean he'll bankrupt me, too?

Carbon rocks - gotta love 'em. 12,000 BTU / lb.  Waaaaarrrrm.

104

now to drudge: listen mother fucker, this is a red headline screaming that stupid red alert light thingy of yours, so fucker put this up red or fucking move out of the way as we try to save this country from a fucking socialist

I second that statement.

105

My own skull burst into flame when I heard him talking about cap-and-trade "markets" being "imposed".

Whaa......?  the gummint LEGISLATES a mandatory system into existence, and then calls it a "market"???

This guy's just plain nuts.

As for all the $$ this system will generate:  it's like states raising cigarette taxes to discourage smoking, and then wondering why the total take from cigarette taxes goes way down, causing them to seek other taxes to compensate for the revenue losses.

No, wait!  The states get a better idea!  They just raise the cigarette taxes some more!!

We are truly moving to become a pure kakistocracy.

106

will it be racist to still refer to those conditions as 'brownouts'?
No. Those will be called Power Augmentations, Nice Deb.

And for blog monitors, dog shit cleanup in Aisle 82.

107

Check IDB/TIPP, Mason Dixon, Rasmussen and GWU Battleground

I suspect they are the ones who havent been taint reamed by the Dems in this cycle

Except for Rasmussen- they all have Obama up by about 4, with LESS than 50% of the vote, and close to 9% still undecided

If they are right- Obama could still go down in a flaming heap of Jeremiah Wright black panther shit

108 K-Lo's apparently finished her second breakfast and finally mentioned it over in the Corner.

109 Unbelievable, does he not understand the basic economic concept of opportunity cost?

Nor, apparently, the Laffer Curve.

110 I love the ominous music used in the video; it was used in another one as well; my mom said her dad (from Poland) called that TROUBLE MUSIC.  And boy, are we on the verge of TROUBLE!

111 DD After the Obamacylpse, when you're sitting in the Cold and DARK with your stomach in hunger knots, you can brag how you helped reverse global warming....if you can get it out through your chattering teeth.

112 OK, thank you NH Hick, that worked. The flaming skull should now be centered.

113

This NakedEmperorNews dude or dudette is one bad-ass mofo.

I hope you people calling PA are using this in your script.

114 Am I missing something? Won't Obama do the Houdini and say "this would not apply to clean coal plants" and the MSM will say "what he said"

115

#77, Darren

I caught that too, but felt immediately that I knew where he was coming from.

It's the billions that they will spend in fines which will bankrupt them.

Hence, the government itself will bankrupt them.

Pathetic

116

didog, your a buffoon.

Senator Government is going down down down baby.

You can deny all you want.

PA is going red. Yes blood red. I am from PA and the feeling on the ground is overwhelming. Obama scares the shite out of traditional value voters. He infuriate's Republicans. And he disgusts moderate dems( like I myself was until june) I am talking lifelong dems.

I think you have it backwards buddy. Mac is going to bag a number of dems not seen since Reagan. He is also going to bag NH,MN, and Wisconsin.

Game Over. Sarah Palin will rebuild and reignite the GOP brand and McCain will bring this nation Reform.Peace.Prosperity.

117 Whenever someone yells, "drill baby drill," I get flushed and my butthole opens up an extra inch or two.

118 This  needs to get to the 527s too.

119 And for blog monitors, dog shit cleanup in Aisle 82.

Thanks, but not this time. It's actually understandable, coherent, and uses paragraph breaks.

120

You were punk'd

and you're an ass, now fuck off we have a socialist to defeat

121 They made Biden walk back his identical rope-line comments, but it sounds like he just came from a meeting with Obama. Stick to your guns, Joe--you were right!

McCain: an All Of The Above-Energy Policy
Obama: a None of the Above-Energy Policy

122

Is it just me, or is diderot's dog . . . well . . . an asshole?

 

123 WOOHOO! Flaming skull!

124 OBAMA is basically saying that he will redistribute wealth from coal industry to those cronies of his own choice that have "green tech" firms.

125 "anybody sent this to NRO?"

I de-bookmarked The Corner.  Squish, squish goes NRO as of late.  You know where I go for my conservative pick-me-up nowadays?  Hillbuzz.  A site run by DEMOCRATS.  It's sad.

Of course, for my Saturday night specials and out-of-state liquor licenses, I come here.

126

Is it just me, or is diderot's dog . . . well . . . an asshole?

 Asshole

127 "Is it just me, or is diderot's dog . . . well . . . an asshole?"

Naw, the whole ass.

128 Cap and trade systems for carbon emissions will lead to no new coal plants being built, given that coal plants throw off a lot of carbon. Obama is just being honest here.

Of course, no one living in a coal mining state should support a cap and trade system. Unfortunately for them, both candidates support it.

I hate Obama as much as the next guy, but this is a cheap shot.

129 Obama's Plan To Bankrupt New And Existing Coal Plants

130

I'm sending this to PA newspapers...

131 Filly, I'll second that re NRO/Hillbuzz.  The NRO is going soft, FoxNews is practically broadcasting McCain is finished .... its really sad how weak kneed the conservative media is going.

132

What's the deal with Instapundit today?

I wanted to see if he'd be running the story, and I can't connect to his site. Is it just me?

133 BTW, Bill Ayers writing speeches for Obama. (Or Obama plagiarizing Ayers in speeches.)

This is a surprise in what way?  During one of the primary debates Obama admitted that he had "exchang[ed] ideas on a regular basis" with Ayers.  Perhaps those ideological discussions are the basis for Obama's current policy prescriptions.

134

McCain's a hoot!

He's live on Fox right now and is talking about pork, "We won't spend $xx studying the DNA of bears in Montana. I don't know whether it's a criminal or paternity issue" but we won't do it.

LMAO

135 Bump bump!

136 I can connect to instapundit, but his page never stops loading (in Firefox). I think he must have some widget or piece of html code or some such that isn't working quite right.

137 "Is it just me, or is diderot's dog . . . well . . . an asshole?"

Yes. He's an asshole. Click here.*

* But who cares about that? Ignore it totally like liquid running down the crack of a whore's ass. There's work to do. Onward to victory, Americans.

138 Sending emails to the news organizations in Penn.

139

"What's the deal with Instapundit today?

I wanted to see if he'd be running the story, and I can't connect to his site. Is it just me?"

Glenn reynolds had the story up earlier, but it's almost like the whole world just logged on and decided to go to the conservative blogosphere or a massive wave of DOS attacks just got launched, I thought it was just me.

140 For the record I live in  V wife of a miner that works in Ky born in Oh so I can say make this viral with everyone you know,also don't forget CO,NM, and a lot of western states produce coal too so make sure you send it to everyone not just the PA,KY,WV, and OH crowds that you know.

141

Cedric, we're in a political war here.  Obama has committed the egregious error of using very "impolitic" language.

We need to slam him against the wall for it. 

Obama delenda est.

Oh and btw:  McCain favors "clean coal".  Obama favors NO coal.

big diff,  conceptually and politically.

142 I can connect to instapundit, but his page never stops loading (in Firefox).

I'm on Instapundit right now with Firefox;  no problems.  And he has the Coal/carbon story linked.

143 If Barry O the Media Ho is elected...WE'RE ALL FUCKED!  Plain and simple...the dude and his socialist minions are going to fuck us in the ass for four fucking years....

MAV/CUDA in 08!

Fuck the socialists!

144 The YouTube video must be getting hit hard, because I'm only able to get it 50% of the time. I have it downloaded in case it gets taken down.

145 "I can connect to instapundit, but his page never stops loading (in Firefox). I think he must have some widget or piece of html code or some such that isn't working quite right."

OregonMuse, it'll be a JavaScript widget or code, not HTML. Here's what you can do about that.

You got the award winning NoScript internet security extension enabled? If not, install it.

If you don't want to block JavaScript for all websites, fine. Don't. But you can keep NoScript's blocking off and just add Instapundit as an "Untrusted" site. That will block all script, but not HTML. It'll load fast.

If you feel like it, you can selectively enable different scripts on that page using NoScript until you've got them all on but the troublesome one. But that's probably unnecessary just to read the site.

146

I have it downloaded in case it gets taken down.

Thanks for doing that!

147 49% of our electric power comes from coal!? 19% nuclear, 20% natural gas. We already know what's happened to oil exploration, drilling, transport, and refining in this country. We've just heard about coal. Eventually they'll figure out that natural gas is a fossil fuel, too.

88% is a lot of conservation to pull off. Personally, I'm counting on unicorns chasing rainbows on treadmills. Oh, and extension cords that reach from Canada.

148 Woops, looks like the counter on the Youtube video got busted. It got about 6,000 hits in about 45 min. and then poof. Also I just noticed on Yahoo the presidential poll just came back to life and shows Barry falling and McCain moving up, coincidence?

149 19 If Sen. McCain can't (or otherwise doesn't) turn this into an ad that will run tomorrow in those swing states, he doesn't deserve to win.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at November 02, 2008 12:23 PM (M6ddU)

fuck off.  can't you at least come up with something original?

150 The most un-vetted candidate in the history of our great nation.

151

With time of the essence, think of a campaign insider and get it to them.

I sent it to Mary Matalin as well as to ROP of Va.

When this video was discovered we each set out to let someone else know about it and, with time of the essence, you were the first person who came to mind.

As I type this, Sen. McCain is touting clean coal. I wish he knew now what Obama's plan entails.

 

152

Here is a link to all the newspapers in Pennsylvania.

http://tinyurl.com/6frhcg

153 Guys, can you urge the powers that be to bump this post?

154 Is someone able to save the vid in some manner? It just might disappear.

155 West Virginia just turned a deeper shade of red.  Which is, of course, entirely attributable to all the rednecks and racists in West-by God- Virginia.  (Dare we hope that Jay Rockedollar will be swept out with the trash?)

156 154...see post 144

157 Drudge does have a link up to the audio!

158

How the fuck are you going to extract "billions of dollars" from a "bankrupt" industry?

Michelle Obama was right. Barack hasn't done anything yet. He hasn't passed economics yet, for example.

159 Wow, Drudge linked directly to Newsbusters. I hope they got the cooling fans on overdrive on their servers and a bucket of ice handy just in case.

160

Is someone able to save the vid in some manner? It just might disappear.

Spypeach downloaded it.

161 Gateway Pundit has it up too.  Rush will surely talk about this a lot tomorrow as well. 

162 144 The YouTube video must be getting hit hard, because I'm only able to get it 50% of the time. I have it downloaded in case it gets taken down.

Posted by: spypeach at November 02, 2008 01:16 PM (QwWKI)

thanks!

163 I've downloaded it.

164 Just sent this in as tip to Fox and Friends

165 The most un-vetted candidate in the history of our great nation.

Then if he's elected, how is that not an opportunity?  And Pelosi, Reid, et al have demonstrated their political acumen in what way? 

Even pessimists should be cautiously optimistic.

166 Goshdarnit, Drudge, put this AT THE TOP. 

What Mac and Sarah need to do is blast this, and then tie it to every other sector of the economy so people understand that this isn't just about coal... it's about Obama's entire attitude towards industry.

St. Nick Day came on November 2 this year (fellow German Catholic morons, holla!)

167 Shit ! Somebody needs to get on the horn to Newsbusters and tell them their site is crashing. Their servers cant' handle the traffic from Drudge, I cant' connect. This is big !!

168 Taken from Rightnation.US:

Here's more websites that could help, find a sympathetic journalist and send him the links. Or they may have a tipline.

I sent one to; Jonathan Riskind at the Columbus (Ohio) Dispatch at; jriskind@dispatch.com

In Pittsburgh;

http://www.post-gazette.com/

http://www.triblive.com/

http://www.kdkaradio.com/

The Campaign Spot blog at NRO e-mail- jiminturkey@gmail.com

The Corner blog at NRO e-mail- corner@nationalreview.com

169

drudge headline should be:

OBAMA ENERGY PLAN: CREATE NEW MARKET BY BANKRUPTING COAL

170 Hot Air has another clip, from the same interview, in which Obama says his policies will cause energy prices to skyrocket.

171
It's gone viral already! viralvideochart.com

172 "Hot Air has another clip, from the same interview, in which Obama says his policies will cause energy prices to skyrocket."

Meanwhile, Malor's running a football story at the head of the blog.

173 Thanks for the bump, OregonMuse. We appreciate it.

Gabe would have probably got to it, but now is the best time. You rock.

174 Drudgalanche at newsbusters. Drudge's link isn't working. Everybody send Drudge different sites that are covering this story. Hopefully he'll see how huge this is and headline this bitch in BLOOD RED.

Also I'm pretty sure he'll headline items that previously were just simple links on his site if people click through enough to warrant a headline.

Go to Drudge and click his link to this story.

175 OK, I just bumped it. Now I'm off to church. See you all later.

176 I've sent an email to Randy Ludlow of the Columbus Dispatch. He's the reporter that reported on the authorities snooping into JtP's records.

177 "Meanwhile, Malor's running a football story at the head of the blog."


Yea, Ace needs to get the fuck out of bed and right his goddamned ship.

Meanwhile Newsbusters just fumbled the fuckin' ball on the 1 yard line, either that or Axelrod and co. just launched a major DOS attack on the conservative blogosphere, I'll go with both.

178 I sent the video to Ace, hope he gets it.

179 Thanks for the bump. This is really important.

180 Naked Emperor is this year's Drudge. He's doing a great job researching and breaking news. Glad someone still cares out there.

181

BTW, this wouldn't just bankrupt new coal plants.  Existing coal plants would be subject to it as well.

This is not just bad for power plants.

Ever tried to turn iron into steel without burning some coal?  And by 'some'  I mean 'giant heaping gobs.'

 

182 Enjoy your day at church, OregonMuse. Thanks for doing the Lord's work before going to give homage to Him.

183

I can convert the video to any format needed, just let me know.

184

This is not just bad for power plants.

Just think of how coal is transported.

185 What about the audio up over at HotAir now where he admits his plan will make electricity prices SKYROCKET. 

His word.  Not mine.

186

Oh, it gets worse for Barry. In the same interview about bankrupting Coal plants:

"Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad."

See: Obama: I’ll make energy prices “skyrocket” at Hotair

(Sorry I'm not going through the tinyurl grief anymore)

187 But wait; There's More!:

"You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know — Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers."

188 Just contacted Drudge with a few other sites and also everyone on the list I posted on 168.

189 I anyone else having problems with posting comments? I keep getting that "long strings..." message although I'm using tiny url and there are no long, uninterupted strings.

190 More good news - IBD shows a two-point race with Mac gaining 2.4 pts.  Far from over.

http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=5404

191 Anyone interested in TheBigOldDog's story about Obama saying he'll make energy prices "skyrock", Hot Air's now got it on the front page with audio.

192

I have received 3 GOTV calls today, one rep. two dem.

The dems were not to happy when I told them they could not count on my vote and to have a nice day.

193 How could the YouTube counter for this still only be at less than 23K?

194 Don't worry though. The 40% who have no income tax liability will have their electricity bills subsidized by those who do.

So now that lady won't have to worry about her gasoline, her mortgage OR her electricity bill.

195 Barry's energy policy is utter garbage. In this regard the Europeans have a little more sense, they moved to offshore drilling, clean coal and nuclear a long time ago and therefore are not so dependant on the middle east oil producers. And that is the direction McCain wants to take us. Barry seems to be convinced all we need is fresh air and sunshine..what an idiot.

196 If anyone is having problems with the audio clip, it is available at American Thinker

197 spypeach: What state?

198 "I can convert the video to any format needed, just let me know."

Betavision, please, stat!

-- Obama "Run Out the Clock"* Troll Division


* As distinct from the usual Obama "Lying" and "Demoralizing" Troll Divisions

199 I can't afford a higher electric bill, Our rates in Maryland went up 80%. My average bill is almost $400. And I sweat in the summer and freeze in the winter, and I have a small 3 bedroom house with new windows and a new heating unit.

200

Meanwhile over in Iran...

the crazy nutter dictator is praying to Allah, that obama wins.

201 Crap.  The MSM is going to be focusing on the ridiculous "Sarah Palin Got Pranked" vid at the expense of this.  It's already "lead news" on mail.com.

Crap.

202

197 spypeach: What state?

Maryland, so I don't know why the Dems are even bothering calling.

203 "How could the YouTube counter for this still only be at less than 23K?"

It's Sunday.

That's why I said the key with this is to keep that post front and center with the flaming skull and get the whole conservative blogosphere to light up today... so the McCain camp, RNC, state campaigns, and 527s see the legs this has and cut ads... which must run no later than Monday morning.

204 Hey, I like the term Dark Ages for the Obama times...Do you think people with thinks us racist with that term? I hope Rush picks up the Dark Ages theme,because sad to say for this here United States of America,truly it will be The Dark Ages again......

205
Wow. A plan to bankrupt and destroy an entire industry.

I didn't know about this until now.

That, kiddies, is the very definition of social/economic engineering.

IMO, this is the single most disturbingly shocking of Obama's plans.

Do Obama voters really want this? Do they find merit in it? Do they really think that it's a good and acceptable idea to undertake to destroy a legitimate and lawful industry--one that could fulfill our energy needs or at the very least tide us over until other energy sources are available? An industry which is foundational to the economy and economic well-being and viability of entire regions of our country?

Has anyone polled pro-Obama voters to ask them what they think of this plan?

206

drudge has obama livestream on top of his site.

drudge is back in the tank for obama, I guess

207 Spypeach, if you're in MD-1 or MD-6, that could be why the Dems are looking for your vote. I grew up in Frederick and am hoping Bartlett holds the line there. He's been a fairly reliable conservative vote.

I also got robocalled today by the Dole campaign. Only problem is I moved from NC to MI in July. They even called my MI home number. Smooth.

208 spypeach.  No kidding, Maryland is killer.  So glad I didn't buy a bigger house.  Thankfully if Obama wins we will apparently get all of our energy from his dynamic personality, which is free!  Like a hug.  Or a beat down!

209 There is another voting group that is affected by "bankrupting coal" that I haven't seen mentioned.  That would be my mother and others like her.  She's retired from the coal industry and relies on it for her monthly pension check.  Put the coal companies out of business and she's down to basic social security which means she's down to nothing.  There are a LOT of people like her in Missouri, where Peabody Coal Co had many mines back in the 60's, 70's, and early 80's.

Just say'n.  Make sure when you're spreading this around don't forget the retirees especially since they are more likely to actually go vote.

210 Higher electric bill? Bankrupting coal companies? Energy prices skyrocketing?

That's not going to help Michelle Obama's children extended family members left to fend for themselves.

211 "There is another voting group that is affected by "bankrupting coal" that I haven't seen mentioned.  That would be my mother and others like her.  She's retired from the coal industry and relies on it for her monthly pension check.  Put the coal companies out of business and she's down to basic social security..."

You are damn right.

212 Why is this a flaming skull but newly discovered audio of Obama promising to take make it illegal to carry weapons even with a permit is a side headline?  Is the right to operate a coal plant a more fundamental one than the right to bear arms?

213 Levels of stuttering....even Obama knows he's dangerous; that's why he stutters.

214 Day 21: IBD/TIPP Tracking Poll: The most accurate pollster in the 2004 presidential election

Obama 46.7%, McCain 44.6%, Undecided 8.7%

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/series13.aspx?
src=POLLTOPN

The race tightened again Sunday as independents who'd been leaning to Obama shifted to McCain to leave that key group a toss-up. McCain also pulled even in the Midwest, moved back into the lead with men, padded his gains among Protestants and Catholics, and is favored for the first time by high school graduates.

The race is tied in the mid-west with 12% undecided.

Out west Obama is leading only by 4%, with 8% undecided.

Obama is above 50% only in the North-east.

215

In addition to not knowing shit about the Constitution, now The Vapid One© tells us he doesn't understand a free capitalist market. He actually wants to eliminate entire sectors of energy production. He is a real danger to our country.

216 "Why is this a flaming skull but newly discovered audio of Obama promising to take make it illegal to carry weapons even with a permit is a side headline?  Is the right to operate a coal plant a more fundamental one than the right to bear arms?"

Fundamental, no. Maybe we need a front page post about that too.

However, for the swing states in a year where the economy is the issue and no one really doubts that Obama is anti-gun anyway (unlike Clinton, he doesn't even pretend he's ever held one), the PA coal story is the swing-state closer par excellence.

217 Damnit. I want to contact the United Mine Workers of America, but I have to be a union member to contact them. Oh they have an article where they say McCain is no friend of coal. I wonder what they would think of obama after hearing the audio.

218 Oh, and they're actually similar in fundamental importance. The right to operate a coal plant is the right to capitalism, to freedom, to use one's property as one wills. And it's a bread and butter issue when people are worried about affording things and their economic future.

219

CRAP, I just went outside and someone stole our McCain sign. Assholes.

220 Obama sayeth, "You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know — Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers."

221 Why the heck are we seeing this only a couple of days before the election?

Don't McCain's people have Google?!  Jeez!!

I hope the battleground states see this in an ad.

222 Day 21: IBD/TIPP Tracking Poll: The most accurate pollster in the 2004 presidential election

I'm not so sure why pollsters see a Dem/Rep breakdown that much different from 2006.  The War probably motivated more independent and center-right people to vote D than Obama will, no?  Add in the PUMA betrayal thing, and I think you have independents, PUMAs, and moderate republicans, all more likely to vote for McCain-Palin than they would for even a moderate Dem congressman; what am I missing here?

223 PJ at November 02, 2008 02:19 PM (GVdvM)

Perhaps cuz McCain is all about cap n trade, too. Just not to this extent.

224 PJ, see this.

225 190 More good news - IBD shows a two-point race with Mac gaining 2.4 pts.  Far from over.

http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=5404

Going by that calculations I threw in Excel, it demonstrates that the Undecided are breaking towards McCain's direction.  Because November 1 and November 2, the undecided stood at 8.7% while McCain gained 1.2% and Obama lost that same amount.  The day before, both lost less than half a point which mostly means nothing.  Now going by the changes since October 13 in Undecided, they've constantly fluctuated but end up adding to McCain's point.  What I did was I took both the sum of Obama and McCain points which added up to 91.3% giving Obama 51.1% of that and McCain 48.4% of that amount who are definitly voting for those candidates.

I know I'm going somewhere with this but 1.9% of that broke for McCain while the same exact amount broke for Obama of the undecided so they're even.  With Obama having a bigger margin in the "definitely voting" category, Mac is having a better effect swinging undecided his way which could give him the election.

Maybe I'm just an idiot.

226 Christoph at November 02, 2008 02:08 PM (hawOV)

then, you can have obama propose some sort of tax credit for people who make less than XXX/year to compensate them for the higher energy bills - thus further guaranteeing their vote to the democrat party. And punishing everyone else.

The goal, as always is to make sure 51% of people get more money from government, than they pay in. If you can do this, you cannot lose elections.

227 The Party ID breakdown in the IBD/TIPP Poll

Obama McCain Undecided

Dem 85% 8% 7%
Rep 5% 89% 6%
Ind 43% 45% 12%


Note that McCain is peeling off more Democrats than Obama does Republicans. The 7% undecided Democrats are unlikely to go to Obama if they haven't done so yet. We should try to convince the undecided Republicans to come back through direct voter contacts.

McCain is actually leading among independents. If we assume conservatively the undecided independents will split 50/50, McCain will still be in a great shape. I actually expect most of them them to go against Obama based on what happened in the Democratic primary.

BOTTOM LINE: Obama has not made the sale, has difficulty closing just like in the primaries, and most of the undecided will go to McCain.

228

The dems were not to happy when I told them they could not count on my vote and to have a nice day

Dude!  You are doing it wrong.  Think - every minute they spend on the phone with you is one minute less they spend talking to some squishy undecided voter. 

You are supposed to pretend to be that squishy undecided voter and ask alot of easy questions that keep them talking for as long as possible. 

229 212 Why is this a flaming skull but newly discovered audio of Obama promising to take make it illegal to carry weapons even with a permit is a side headline?  Is the right to operate a coal plant a more fundamental one than the right to bear arms?

Posted by: ArrMatey at November 02, 2008 02:10 PM (35LYA)

Say what?

230 I suppose that will work Lorien, until the 49% decide 'fuck it...I'm tired of holding up the rest of the country.'

231

TAKE ACTION!! RIGHT NOW!

Start posting this video on sites in the coal based states, Montana, Illinois, Wyoming, West Virginia, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Colorado, Texas...

Search all kinds of sites, mommy sites, restaurant blogs, newspapers online, grocery stores...anything and everything!! Get out of the echo and deliver this message to the people! States like WV know what happens when a plant closes! They won't want more of the same.

You can make a difference TODAY! I am going right now to hunt for WV sites. GO!!! (I sound dramatic, but it can make a difference!)

232 BTW - Just got an email from GOPTrust.com - the guys who are running the Rev. Wright ad against obambi.  They have raised over 8 million dollars and are blitzing the airways in battleground states.  Teh one's campaign is apparently furious and trying to get the ad taken off. 

233 sarainitaly, that's a fabulous idea!

Be polite and respectful when you post. Let Obama do his own talking.

234 Damnit. I want to contact the United Mine Workers of America, but I have to be a union member to contact them. Oh they have an article where they say McCain is no friend of coal. I wonder what they would think of obama after hearing the audio.

Posted by: Ginger at November 02, 2008 02:17 PM (2Snaq)

I contacted them.  Not a union member, but I ran some searches and put down info for here in VA.  "Mine Safety and Health Administration" for Organization, and the proper district (5) for VA.  Had not the slightest clue what to put for Local, so I think I just entered "4." Heh

It went through.

235 Accidentally watched meet the press this morning. Kerry was on their saying how we couldn't afford the bush tax cuts anymore. It was a small part of a big kiss ass session that got glossed over. Just wondering if anyone else saw it. Of course Brokaw didn't ask him to clarify if that meant obama was going to raise taxes.

236 What the hell?  Have I lost my mind?  Are Americans really about to elect this guy?  They don't see what this dude is?

237

The United Mine Workers of America are all in for Obama.

Ironic, isn't it.

Perhaps someone should juxtapose the vid at their website with the new audio above.

Sure, Obama will support unions with their open balloting b.s., but what good is it to represent a dying industry?

238 Tami at November 02, 2008 02:25 PM (P3ErD)

I have felt like I'm living in an Ayn Rand novel lately.

239 You're da bomb, Rebekah.

Gosh darnit! Why do I have to be in love with the woman of my dreams? The one I've always wanted.

If it wasn't for that fortunate fact, I'm sure there's many wondrous ladies out there.

Great job!

240 #216 -- I understand, and I kind of agree with you.  I'm told though that guns is a big deal in Pennsylvania as well.  I am just kind of dispirited about trying to get attention for the "ban concealed weapons permits" audio.

#229 -- Look to the headlines on the left.  It's the one that starts with "I, I, I, I".  I am exhausted from three days of trying to push that story.

241

Posted by: Rebekah at November 02, 2008 02:28 PM (Hjij/)

Thanks for the idea. I will try that as well!!

242 HondaV65

243

Rebecca and Ginger, I tried for almost a half hour to post their website and video and Ace's comments section has been freaking the hell out. Finally, I got in the comment above.

Watching the video, it's really sad, because the old fella on the vid VERY CLEARLY has no damned idea what he's talking about but has worked his ass off in the mines for so long that coal issues are the only thing he has to hang a hat on.

I mean...c'mon?! Obama grew up like they did?!

244 Sorry, misspelled Rebekah

245 I am Joe the Miner.

BugMeNot.com is a good site for logins/passwords if you are putting this on various sites where you don't want to waste 10 minutes registering.

I am Joe the Spammer.

246 Hey look, farmers are assholes too!

247

Woohoo - Texas Tech won and McCain is closing fast - thanks for the IBD numbers. Given over-weighted dem polls I would say his lead is greater in below polls. But at least they shows him up.

Mason Dixon

NC 49-46 McCain

OH 47-45 McCain

MO 47-46 McCain

 

248

Oooh, the UMWA site has a map with a guide to Districts.  I was wrong on the 5 for VA thing, apparently it's 17.  Maybe 5 was local?

From their site:

District 2 (PA, NY, Eastern Canada)
113 Roberts Rd. Suite B
Grindstone, PA 15442
724-785-8692
ryantko@umwa.org

Sub-district offices

Hazelton, PA 570-455-3621 Lucernemines, PA 724-479-8692 Glace Bay, NS 902-849-8692

District 12 (IL, IN, Western KY, MO, IA, KS, OK, AR, LA, TX)
3695 South Sixth St.
Springfield, IL 62703
217-529-8301
umwa12@springnet1.com

Sub-district offices

Benton, IL 618-439-7225 Madisonville, KY 270-821-2774

District 17 (Southern WV, Eastern KY, VA, TN)
1300 Kanawha Blvd. E.
Charleston, WV 25301
304-346-0341
jcarter@umwa.org

Sub-district offices

Beckley, WV 304-252-0611 Castlewood, VA 276-762-5537 Chapmanville, WV 304-855-2280 Welch, WV 304-436-4123 Pikeville, KY 606-437-7376

District 20 (AL, FL, GA, MS)
275 Forest Rd. Suite 100
Hueytown, AL 35023
205-744-9853
umwadistrict20@bellsouth.net

District 22 (Western U.S.)
525 East 100th South
Price, UT 84501
435-637-2037/2066
umwadistrict22@emerytelcom.net

District 31 (Northern WV, OH)
310 Gaston Ave.
Fairmont, WV 26554
304-363-7500
reddy@umwa.org

Sub-district offices

Bridgeport, OH 740-635-7600

Canada
33 Gallant St
Glace Bay, NS, Canada B1A1T2
902-849-8692
umwa@ns.sympatico.ca

Regions

Region I
113 Roberts Rd., Suite B
Grindstone, PA 15442
724-785-8693
umwaregion1@verizon.net

Region II
1300 Kanawha Blvd. East
Charleston, WV 25301
304-343-0259
region2@umwa.org

Region III
1530 North Main
Benton, IL 62812
616-439-6373
janumwa@neondsl.com

Region IV
6525 West 44th Ave.
Wheat Ridge, CO 80033
303-425-7110
Region4@umwa.org

 

249 Here is the audio link: http://cdn.sfgate.com/blogs/soun   ds/sfgate/chroncast/2008/01/17/20080117-obama-interview.mp3

the relevant stuff is 25-29 min mark. 

250

MORONS who understand computers:

please download this video before it disappears:

http://tinyurl.com/2kvl3q

it's the original from the SFGate website

251 I'm hitting blogs in WV. Just the headline: Obama: We’ll bankrupt any new coal plants and the link to teh video.

252 The Corner at NRO is talking about this and pushing for an ad.

253

Damnit. I want to contact the United Mine Workers of America, but I have to be a union member to contact them.

No, you can put in your name/address info (as much and as accurately as you like, as long as you fill in the * items), and then put "private" into the union info fields.

I did that, and the message went through.

www.umwa.org

254 I just contacted UMWA and it went through.

255 The Corner at NRO is talking about this and pushing for an ad.

Posted by: Major Graham at November 02, 2008 02:43 PM (qGn4/)

God damn right. About fucking time.

256 rob, link?

257

Rebekah,

I think I have fallen in love with you!! Thanks so much for the list. You rock!

258

You know, I've never understood liberals and how they think, I just can't get my head around it. But you would think that the blue dog democrats would not want to see this Obamanation happen to their country. Their support for Obama is something I will never understand, do you think they believe him, or maybe they just think they can control him? I don't get it.

259

Forget the UMWA - their leadership is entirely in the tank for Obamessiah.  They have radio ads in VA endorsing Obama and will ignore/delete anything you send them.

They need to be bypassed - this info needs to go directly to the rank and file by any means possible.

260 That's really the thing: as much as McCain's ideas and personality, his viewpoints, his treatment of things I believe in are bad.. as often as he comes up with a bad policy, Obama's are worse.

We're so screwed.

261 OT, but this should be required reading:

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5991

262

"Forget the UMWA - their leadership is entirely in the tank for Obamessiah.  They have radio ads in VA endorsing Obama and will ignore/delete anything you send them.

"They need to be bypassed - this info needs to go directly to the rank and file by any means possible."

I concur.

263 It sucks royally that the cult of the ManBearPig is dictating to us, the potential energy policy of our country....

264 I sent this to my friends, feel free to use it if you want...

My sister asked me whether I would vote and who I would vote for, and of course the first answer is yes, it is my duty which I have never shirked, and the other is quite obvious for those that know me. I have no recommendations for you as friends and family but for you to vote your conscience. On the other hand, I do offer my reasons for my choice.

            At the age of 40, Obama has had ghost-written two biographies of his life  and nothing else (they are ghostwritten, as is the custom for politicians and also the telltale incidence of alien prose and experience – for instance, the precise seamanship metaphors for a man of no nautical expertise)! Even among senators, the egotism of that fact is astounding. But even so, in the direction of those works, Obama describes a life as self-centered as a heroine addict's self-circumscribed world – he is the kind of man who sees a beguiling vision, and once so intoxicated, cannot be swayed by reason nor facts – and writes limply.

            Nor is he eloquent. This is his most championed virtue, and that alone is a damning indictment of the state of American oratory, not a palm for his skill. His speech is numbing, his statements ridiculous, his delivery, fine. And while the greatest orator of all, Demosthenes, said the first three attainments of his art were, "Delivery, delivery, delivery," the other parts are invention, arrangement, expression and memory, in which Obama's critical failings are in vapid expression ("Yes, we can!") and warmed-over invention ("Hope!" and "Change!").

Further, Cicero states that there are three styles – the plain, the ornamented, and the vigorous – and that no eloquent speaker can be limited to a single style, for such an orator would be consequently limited in his subjects. By way of proof, Cicero considers the idiocy of using vigorous language to discuss a civic ordnance such as stillicide (damage accrued to one property by runoff of water from another), or the cruelty to a client on trial for his life by using unserious poetry in his defense, or the barbarism of plain speech when recounting the triumphs of his own people, the Romans.

Obama has a single style, a mewling litany long soaked in the rhythms of an odious and racist Black Nationalist church, and can speak neither a truth nor a lie plainly. He is not eloquent. To compare his speeches with even second-rank orators of the past is to weep for our fallen culture today. He peddles rhythms and purple prose, and the fools adore him.

            Even if he were a great and substantial speaker and an engaging writer, even if he were not vain enough to attempt two [auto-] biographies nor encourage his blasphemous political deification, he is a disastrous philosopher and outright ignoramus of history. He is an ideologue, seduced by a dream that is not how the world works and never has, and no amount of suffering around him will wake him to the lie. Over and again, from the Berlin Wall to the Cuba Missile Crisis, he takes away precisely the opposite lesson of history and should be self-evident from mere living: that words supercede action, and men who would butcher the innocent can be trusted at their word.

This is madness. There is the Tao, the way of the world, and then there are many fictions of the way the world should work. I can pick up any book on my shelf from authors as diverse as T'ai Kung – a wiseman of Ch'in (1100BC) who knew that the best government taxes lightly, for instance, among other things – to Aristotle who forewarned against all the faults of fascistic socialism by studying states in embryo, and casually refute the very pillars of Obama's worldview. After 2500 years, one would think that a copy of Aristotle's Politics would be available at Obama's library, but, alas, Obama is not an educated man, but a man whose narrow reading has telescoped his worldview away from very inconvenient facts. The fool's path embraces all men, from the least cunning to those of quick but vacant intelligence.

Obama also embraces the most vile characters conceivable: Bill Ayers, his boss and colleague at the (failed) Annenberg Project, and a communist murderer and terrorist; Raishid Khalidi, an Obama dinner guest and a PLO spokesman who wrote lovingly on the mastermind of the Munich terrorists who butchered Israeli Olympic athletes; and the Reverend Wright, Obama's disgusting preacher of decades, who among other greatest hits called Italians 'Garlic noses' and cheered the 9/11 attacks. It is to our country's unending shame when we allied out of necessity with Stalin and others, but Obama in his personal life attaches himself to these monsters. What we were obliged to do in the past, this man will do with relish, and he will certainly prove once again that there are worse things than war; there can always be a scalding peace leading inevitably again to an even more terrible war.

            Obama as a writer is as serious as Paris Hilton. As a statesman, as august as a superintendent of schools. As a thinker, his doctrine is founded on Will to change what will not yield, and so would make Nietsche proud and his country ruined. I've never seen a candidate more unserious, and I shall not join the fools' applause to a such a mediocre man. We do not elect presidents by acclaim in this country, and I hope that you will not pass on this petty tyrant's crown when it comes next to your hands.

265

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 02, 2008 02:50 PM (0+Ggj)

no we aren't. you have to stop dwelling, and do something. get this video out there! i am posting in WV blogs.

266 How will bankrupting coal plants "also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches"?

267 I have contacted Allegheny Energy @ aenews@alleghenyenergy.com

268 Insty has it up linked to Gateway Pundit

269 Barrack Obama:  In the business of putting Americans out of business.

270 you can check out latest mason dixon polls at NRO

271 I sense eager overuse of flaming skull.

This is all too confusing for a guy like me. I need something like "Obama will take my jimmy away and make me drive a homosexual electric car."

Something concrete.

OK?

272 Contacted the McCain campaign by email, also fox news online and local affiliate. About to start dropping on every  blog I can think of.


Just do it!

273 Inspired by Vercingetorix's post #264

I sent this to my dad, but don't use it though, you'll just piss people off...


Hi,

I'll keep this as brief as I can. You won't like it much.

Don't worry, that means you're normal.

I'm going to link to a conservative news source because I like their take on things, but you might possibly if you really look hard enough find something about this in the unbiased mainstream media. Good luck.

In any case, the votes and legislation are a matter of public record. You can look for it at the Illinois Senate and U.S. Congressional websites if you doubt it. I can't imagine why you would.

The Born Alive Infant Protection Act was signed into law by President Bush. The U.S. House of Representatives has 435 members. Only 15 opposed it (hard left zealots in my humble opinion). It passed the U.S. Senate unanimously by voice vote.

It protects babies who survive abortion by requiring medical treatment. Barack Obama opposes this. Mind you, Barack Obama is the person who said with cameras rolling that if his daughters made a mistake and got pregnant, "I don't want them to be punished with a baby."

Moving forward.

During the same year, 2002, the Induced Infant Liability Act was before the Illinois Senate. It is substantially similar to the federal bill. Same provisions. Must protect babies who survive abortion. These aren't babies in the womb. They're not even in the vagina as per partial birth abortion (where they are killed, often full term).

They're in a hospital or abortion clinic somewhere breathing air.

Crying, I assume.

Barack Obama voted "present" against this bill once and then voted "no". One of the versions he voted against was identical to the federal bill, which passed later in the year, that has provisions so widely supported almost all the U.S. House and Senate voted for it.

Barack Obama didn't want the abortionist to have to face the burden of bringing in another medical professional to oversee his or her botched work and provide assistance to the (damnit! I was going to write, "unborn child". Scratch that. Born child!) baby. He thought this is unfair in some way to the mother's original decision to abort the baby as if that's the relevant thing at this point when the child is crying, breathing air, and trying to live.

Please read this one article:
http://tinyurl.com/5cp9jn

And watch this one video* (not graphic):
http://tinyurl.com/5p8e9x

You may not understand Sarah Palin's appeal when compared to Barack Obama. But she has it nonetheless. Some of us value innocent life. We oppose abortion in the way that slavery was opposed in the 1840s and for almost the exact same reason: It's a violation of rights of the person. Indeed, it involves the definition of a person. And why is a baby breathing air in an abortion clinic or hospital not a person?

I'll leave it alone for now and I hope you have a good day.

Love,

Christoph

* The video has the added bonus of showing Fox News giving, well -- "Fair and Balanced" coverage. The same type of coverage some people think they're getting from much of the media, who, by strange coincidence according to studies, vote Democratic by something like a 90% margin.


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My friends, quoting John McCain when talking about people who may not necessarily be his friends, some have wondered why I care who wins your election. I have many motivators, but the above is my prime one.

It's just like many of you who feel sickened by China's one child policy. If you could do something to stop it, would you? Would you at least like to try to help in some small way even if it mightn't work?

Same with me, and in this case about infanticide in addition to abortion.

I look at myself similar to the Canadian anti-slavery activists while your country still had slavery. (The analogy isn't perfect, not least of which because we also have abortion presently, which I oppose.)

Or the ones from Britain, even the great legislator William Wilberforce.

Yes, they were from different lands, but their efforts reached far and wide and had impact beyond their lands. For the good of humanity. Like your countrymen and women have had impact beyond your lands... you must humbly admit.

I'm not perfect. Far from it. But I oppose the barbaric acts of harming innocent children. Since Barack Obama wants to sign the so called Freedom of Choice Act as his first priority according to his words, can you see why I would want to, emotionally, prevent him from harming innocent children even if they are in your country?

And your country's political trends directly rub off on mine.

I hope you'll forgive me for explaining myself here, unbidden, and for my motivation, and my efforts.

With that, I return you to your regularly scheduled programming: Exposing Barack Obama's disastrous attempt to destroy your coal and related industries!

274 Guys,

Ignore the weekend polls. They are always worse for Republicans. From a poll perspective, the race is a dead heat. But we know internals show solid leads for McCain every single swing state. Just get out there and vote. None of this stuff means anything.

275

I sent it to the pr department at Peabody Energy.  Headquarters?  St. Louis

www.peabodyenergy.com/

276 christoph, did you donate to hillbuzz?

277
This is all too confusing for a guy like me. I need something like "Obama will take my jimmy away and make me drive a homosexual electric car."

Something concrete.

OK?

Okay.  Head over to Hot Air, with audio (from the same speech as this coal thing) where he says that under his plan, energy prices -will- skyrocket.  His words.

That good enough?

IMO that's at least as if not more damaging than the coal bit.  Both should get flaming skulls.

Qwinn

278 Does anyone know if McCain/Palin are talking about this on the campaign trail today?

There needs to be a commercial cut and they need to be talking about it on the campaign trail.

279

Thanks funky!

280

#266, DaveS

The billions they will pay in fines, which will subsequently bankrupt them, is what he's talking about.

He intends to take their every last dime and then put them on the streets.

281 "Head over to Hot Air, with audio (from the same speech as this coal thing) where he says that under his plan, energy prices -will- skyrocket.  His words.

"That good enough?

"IMO that's at least as if not more damaging than the coal bit.  Both should get flaming skulls."

Two related flaming skulls, one above the other. I like it.

282

#278, War

McCain has been hitting the clean coal today in PA. It's on Fox right now.

 

283 Now I am emailing the official city websites in swingstates.

284 260 That's really the thing: as much as McCain's ideas and personality, his viewpoints, his treatment of things I believe in are bad.. as often as he comes up with a bad policy, Obama's are worse.

We're so screwed.

McCain's policy are not as bad as you think.  401K will reduced under Obama whereas they will grow under McCain.  Payroll taxes will go up under Obama whereas it'll stay the same under McCain.  Seriously, we're not as screwed as you think under McCain.

285 "McCain has been hitting the clean coal today in PA. It's on Fox right now."

Go, Mac!

286 The Mac is on the attack!

287 Did he mention the video?

288

No. I doubt he has word yet and will probably need to vet the story before using it so quickly.

I did send the link to WOLF, Fox t.v. in Scranton.

289 "and will probably need to vet the story before using it so quickly."

What kind of vetting is required when we have audio?

Qwinn

290

I got tickets to go see McCain here in NV tomorrow.  It's gonna be crazy, but I think we'll go.

291 Sarahcuda is slamming Obama on bankrupting the coal industry in her speech today urging people to go listen to the tape!

292

291

I wonder if they will show that on fox?

293 282, Just heard the tail end of the McCain speech, he mentioned it but very quickly, he said just over a year ago, Obama in an interview said he was NOT a coal booster, well I'm a coal booster and then McCain rattled off what he will do for clean coal.

Unless I missed more earlier in the speech, who is writing his speeches, he needs to say that Obama mentioned bankrupting the industry, that Obama says one thing to your face and another to the San Francisco Chronicle, and that Obama admits to lying because coal is an ideological issue that can be used against him.

What am I missing?

294 I went to a Sarah Palin Victory Rally last night in Raleigh, NC, and they were giving "Clean Coal" hats out to EVERYBODY up and down the mile-long line.

So yeah, the campaign does care about it.  I think right now it's a matter of flexibility, I sure hope the campaign can get it, digest it and put it to commercial in the markets that matter.

295

#284, the financial shows which air on Fox News each Saturday painted a frightening scenario of what will happen to the 401k savings under Obama.

296 They -seriously seriously- need to make an ad playing the "under my plan, electricty prices will necessarily skyrocket" clip over and over again, everywhere.  NOW.

That's worse than the coal bit.

Qwinn

297 it's streaming on fox, you can get the link at free repbulic

298 Sarahcuda is slamming Obama on bankrupting the coal industry in her speech today urging people to go listen to the tape!

Posted by: robtr at November 02, 2008 03:48 PM (C6ME0)

That lady is quick on her feet.

299 Where is she today? I haven't seen her on Fox yet.

300 Who broke the post?

301 she is in Marrieta, Ohio. I think Cspan has her speech up now

302

Wouldn't it be great if McCain held a news conference and ran the audio, then talked about how the media has let the people down by not reporting on this earlier. I can dream can't I.

303 A blogger finds these nuggets?  On Nov. 2nd?

Seriously, forget the media, where the fuck was Oppo. Research?

Unreal!

304 It's at the top of Drudge.

305 Palin rally at St Clairville Ohio. (Coal and Energy)    12 October 2008      "Mine Baby Mine"


http://tinyurl.com/5m2xfh

306 303 Exactly, from the Clintons to the McCain campaign, I thought they had an army of people doing nothing but research, nope, from now on in, we're going to have to do it, for Free, but the country is worth the effort.

Next time, I'm starting early, starting with every candidate in the primary that has a realistic shot at becoming the nominee, before things start getting scrubbed.

But in this instance, it sounds like someone leaked the audio, because the quote wasn't in the article, so it would have been near impossible to know what Obama truly said, I'm thinking a patriot at the Chronicle leaked it.

307 HA, Just saw the Reverend Wright Ad on MSNBC, Beautiful, the only difference is they bleeped out Damn, but you can clearly hear what he was saying.

308 Right O War69. This Country is.

P.S. I like your site.

P.P.S. Could a Moron asemble a 5-10 point primer on web research? I think that myself and others would like to read the ABCs of teh process.

309

 I went to a Sarah Palin Victory Rally last night in Raleigh, NC, and they were giving "Clean Coal" hats out to EVERYBODY up and down the mile-long line.

They gave out shirts at the one in Virginia a couple weeks ago.  I'm wearing mine now.  (Also pants, pervs.)

310

I think my refresh button is going to break today.

311 I am watching Palin right now on Cspan.org.

312 Mr. Chumpo, thank you, I tell you, next time I won't rely so much on the traditional search engines, time to hit the libraries, universities, nexis lexis, you have to go to the actual source.

The campaigns should have had people scouring the Chicago areas, local papers, public radio and tv, interviewing people on the street, people that live near Obama, true investigative research.


The Clintons should have known Obama was a threat after his DNC speech in 2004, the media was already talking him up as a future Presidential candidate.

They should have been recording Wright's church every Sunday.

313

Palin starts talking about the tape 12 minutes into the speech.

314

Ginger do you have a link?

315

Palin's speech on obama wanting to bankrupt coal plants.

http://tinyurl.com/6xabke

She starts talking about it at about 12 minutes in.

316

nevermind I got it.

317

"Gas prices are down- way down"

"Barack Obama said that his energy policy will make those gas prices skyrocket"

"Like 4.00 gas? UNder Obama- youll get it. Again."

Im John McCain, and I approve this message"

318 I just heard someone in the crowd yell "Blame the media!" when Palin was talking about the audio just coming to surface now.

319

"Gas prices are down- way down.  Barack Obama said that his energy policy will make those gas prices skyrocket"

He didn't say it about gas prices - he said it about electricity prices.

Last thing we need is a misquote to allow the media to turn what could be an election changer into a "McCain lies about Obama" storm.

Qwinn

320 More like 15 minutes in I think.  She mentions it there first and then says she's going to talk about a new tape in a minute...then talks about energy independence.  Setting up the intro to the tape at about 17 minutes in.

321 Here's the link to the Palin speech

322 Yeah man, I think it's obvious that teh one is seen as a sensational seller of newspapers, not to mention a radical. I have not put much faith in print journallisim since I attended Advertising school in the early Nineties.

We are capable of an emense aggragate research effort. I think that you make a good point about starting early. Thanks.

P.S. U can call me Chumpo.

323

Son-of-a B!

Cspan 1,2,3...I don't see her anywhere.

324

"..I'm thinking a patriot at the Chronicle leaked it."

Kidding, right?  Yea, I suppose anything is possible but the problem is there's no one working there, or living in the whole city for that matter, who would sense the slightest controversy from the statement. 

I'm surprised that this didn't come out sooner but it's not like the guy hasn't telegraphed all this over the last year or so.  We can't drive SUV's, cool/heat our homes, eat as much as we want etc. 

This could make a difference and I hope it does but it is absolutely pathetic that it's just now coming to light.

Suggestion for a flaming skull replacement.  Break out the distributor cap image and accentuate with flames because if this guy is elected there'll be a lot of distributin' going on.

325

Hey, I just read a story that just might makeme think our journalists are necessarily the worst.

A 13 year old Indonesian girl was stoned to death in a stadium filled with 1,000 spectators because she claimed she was raped. The Indonesian press intially reported to Amnesty International that she was 23 years old "because of her physical appearance".

Perspective.

326 oops! That should have been aren't necessarily the worst.

327 Wow, spypeach@321, Palin nailed it in her speech!

328 Morale boost, look how Hilary owned Nobama and the Pollsters
http://tinyurl.com/2exju2

329 WSJ has Sarahcuda's comments on their blog, hopefully there is an ad in the making.

330

The new O'Bambi fuck the coal companies video has moved from #20 into the #2 position this date.

http://www.viralvideochart.com/

331

Jake Tapper of ABC is all over the Bambi coal dustup.

http://tinyurl.com/56ohav

332

Vercingetorix,

You do the name proud, sir.

333 Damn, the RNC has already made a robocall out of this. I just heard it on Trapper's blog on ABC.

334 Newt is talking about this on Cavuto's show right now but Neil wants to get back on the meta topic of message communication tactics.  Arrrgh!

335 Come on Cavuto, let Newt speak!

336 new rnc ad up at powerlineblog.com highlighting Obama's constantly changing and shrinking definition of rich!

337

The commercial asks, "Think it doesn't effect you?"

No, but it may Affect me.

If anyone is going to promote this as the best thing since sliced bread, could the spelling be corrected first?

338 Why did you delete hundreds of comments?

339 whoa?

340 Okay, you didn't, but I swear to God, I couldn't see them for a while!

341 Whoa, indeed. I hope I didn't do that. I've been working on the skull. It disappeared, and I got it back up, and was trying to center it.

This moveable type system is very very touchy!

342 I used your code, Christoph, to center it. I don't dare go in there and try again.

343 If McCain would just attack the credibility of the media in an ad blasting their incompetence, I honestly believe it would resonate with a shit load of voters. They need to recap the primaries and general election and play a bunch of highlights of the bias one after another. From keith olberman and chris matthews comments about hillary to campbell brown and the rest of the assaults on palin and mccain. Just pile them up in an ad and add the info about how people dont trust the news anymore and the other poll that rated fox the most balanced station. End the ad with something like "Punish the media, vote mccain-palin." Everyone knows the media has been biased, but people have short memory spans. They need a reminder.

344 Christoph, that happened to me earlier today too.  Then they all reappeared.  Hmmm....has Ace surfaced yet?

345 Who keeps screwing up the centering? I put in the html tags twice, and they disappeared twice. So I added the tags the third time, and now it's centered.

Does someone not want Hothead McFlame centered?

346 Can someone explain how Obama's cap and trade is any different than McCain's plan? Both of the Marx Brothers will bankrupt the coal industry! Obama is just stupid enough to admit it.

We're screwed '08

347 Robo-calls are going out!

http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=5409

348 If Naked Emperor is a guy, I'll marry him.

If Naked Emperor is a gal, I'll go gay, move to Massachusetts and marry HER.

349 I think that Ace has said that when you update a post, the comments aren't visible until the next comment is made.

350

Naked Emporer still out there working.  Obama, 2007 - "Price Signals to Change Behavior".  Got that?

http://tinyurl.com/5omoc6

351 The Naked Emperor is getting a lot of views on his videos. The video where the dems said that there was nothing wrong with freddie and fannie has gotten over 2 million hits. The word is getting around.

352 The intent of the ban is to protect the environment based on highly disputed models of climate change.  Although not directly comparable, another ban based on bad uniformed political science stopped the use of DDT resulting in about 100 million deaths due to malaria.    That does not even begin to include the misery and suffering of those who were inflicted but survived.

353 That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.

In the meantime we'll just live in our own shit in the freezing darkness here in The One's home district until his "investments" of our money pan out. That'll happen.

354

Valiant, Dave Axelrod's penis is insufficiently polished. He needs you to add more saliva to it next time.

Hey 'turfers - to the extent McCain is for "cap & trade" it isn't meant for the express purpose of bankrupting an industry.

355 " Can someone explain how Obama's cap and trade is any different than McCain's plan?"

Um, because although he spoke favorably of it a long long time ago, he has completely backed off that position, and his currently energy policy proposal (which has been out since July) don't say a word about it?

http://tinyurl.com/6onygn


If it's good enough for Stanley Kurtz in this matter, it's good enough for me.

Qwinn

356 this is a big deal, bye bye PA and OH

357 I apologize if this has already been mentioned somewhere. I am in a suburb of Pitt. I just received a McCain robocall stating that the future of the coal industry is in Jeopardy. Then it played the tape of Obama himself saying he will bankrupt the industry. Great move McCain.

358 So, Obama wants to put the money into solar and wind power??  Two forms of power generation that are intermittent at best, not to mention taking up huge amounts of land? (Greenies take note...if you thought the Alaskan pipeline was disruptive to wildlife, these forms of generation take up huge amounts of land, and require lots of road surface to maintain them.  In other words, any land so used would be turned into a huge industrial park).  Sooo...in other words, the electorate will be subjected to blackouts, brownouts, and industry would be curtailed as well?
(Meaning, fewer jobs).

My personal opinion is that Obama and co. wants to make almost all of us poor, and dependent on the government for survival.  Litteraly for survival, as an average American could not afford food, housing or health care without the government, let alone a good education, computers, weapons, etc.  In otherwords, totaltarian control of the population in just 4-8 years. 
I think Obama would make even Lenin or Mao envious.

359 Hannity just lead off H & C with the coal and electricity issue with Coulter and Caudell.  Should be good.

360

the weak small headline on this whole situation on drudge has suddenly been given red font, still small, but red.

interesting.

361

this is a big deal, bye bye PA and OH

according to ground game, PUMAs, and leaked internal polling they've already been bye bye for barry. some people are making claims obama hopes to counter losing PA,OH, & FL by picking up IN, VA, NC, IA, & such states (i don't think he'll any of those)

362

the weak small headline on this whole situation on drudge has suddenly been given red font, still small, but red.

interesting.

the headlines are now up there instead of to the side, wonder if matt's finally getting his shit together

363 We Commiefornians have some experience with SKYROCKETING electricity prices. In the middle of that scam a few years ago electricity sold by the plants into the grid went from $25 to $2500 per megawatt/hr peak. Most of the high dollar megs were never actually paid...lots of bankruptcy related issues and lots of lawyers.

My little local public utility of 10000 meters ate a $8 million crap sandwich though. Years later, the district is still teetering. Electricity is $.145/kwh.

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