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Obama in 2003: Tax Cuts Should Go Only to Those Making "50, 60, 70 Thousand Per Year"
A bit hard to believe he changed his mind on this just a few months later.
He also states his primary interest in "tax cuts" is for those receiving the Earned Income Tax Credit, which is a good program and all, but yeah, those "tax cuts" to go people already not paying any income tax whatsoever.Comments
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"Well, that was before I decided to take all your shit."
Posted by: Obama at November 01, 2008 03:02 PM (XFyLb)
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We must defeat Obama so this place can go back to the smart military/lesbian porn blog it used to be!
We must defeat Obama so this place can go back to the smart military/lesbian porn blog it used to be!
Posted by: Tinian at November 01, 2008 03:06 PM (Ohodx)
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You realize, this post is so racist - so much so that it, like, so proves your hatewithallyourblackenedheart is aimed at all poor and elderly peepz, right?
Posted by: amp at November 01, 2008 03:07 PM (h37S5)
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Look - we've tapped out my potential already. It's time to take it to a whole, nutha, level.
Posted by: Earned Income Tax at November 01, 2008 03:07 PM (p4YSL)
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It's a good thing that the MSM couldn't find that video. That kind of thing could damage a candidate if it was reported. Wait! is that a big CBS logo on the floor? Hmmmm wonder why they never asked Obama about this.
Posted by: robtr at November 01, 2008 03:07 PM (C6ME0)
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What? What? Seriously - what did we miss?
Posted by: Eye Witness News at November 01, 2008 03:09 PM (p4YSL)
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This is why I hate obama. My husband is a first officer for Delta airlines. He just started his second year is making about 80,000 a year. My husband works his ass off trying to make a decent living for his family. Mind you, I stay home to take care of our two daughters. We are not rich rich by any stretch of the imagination. I hate how obama wants to punish my husband simply because my husband is providing for his family by being a hardworking American.
Posted by: Ginger at November 01, 2008 03:11 PM (qSqPf)
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Living here in Hyde Park in this great big ol' house makes me feel like "The Fresh Prince Of Bill-Ayres", uh, uh, uh,....I mean "Bel-Air".
Posted by: Barack Obama at November 01, 2008 03:12 PM (+FzLa)
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We didn't miss nothing.
Could you, please, clearly state your name and address? Just for the record. We do this all the time. It's, like, mandatory for such official comments.
Could you, please, clearly state your name and address? Just for the record. We do this all the time. It's, like, mandatory for such official comments.
Posted by: Eye on You, bitches at November 01, 2008 03:12 PM (h37S5)
Posted by: Christoph at November 01, 2008 03:15 PM (hawOV)
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Okay, I'm a big strong manly man and stuff, you know, but this... this is just... makes you want to have a little Sarah of your own.
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http://tinyurl.com/5ozj6l
Posted by: Editor at November 01, 2008 03:16 PM (p4YSL)
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Dear Leader Chairman Maobama isn't going to re-up the Bush tax cuts, which will raise the taxes on everyone making over $42,000 a year. That means EVERYONE that has an actual tax liability will be paying more in taxes.
Posted by: Smokey Behr at November 01, 2008 03:18 PM (QyeW7)
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the polling numbers looks horrible
Posted by: steve at November 01, 2008 03:19 PM (ewzo+)
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Hey, Sweetie, don't worry your pretty little head about it, okay? Daddy Barack knows what's best.
Posted by: Stinky Esposito at November 01, 2008 03:20 PM (MMC8r)
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This is going to be sooo great.
No mortgage payments, no electric bills, cheap gasoline, free food, and plenty of jobs for people who can handle a gun or a blackjack-- after all somebody is going to have to force those roughnecks to drill, those farmers to produce, those engineers to generate power, and to evict hoarders who try to hang on to more house than they can use.
Bribing the poor will work for a couple of years, but eventually the 'demand' part of the demand economy trickles down to the consumer/enforcer level.
No mortgage payments, no electric bills, cheap gasoline, free food, and plenty of jobs for people who can handle a gun or a blackjack-- after all somebody is going to have to force those roughnecks to drill, those farmers to produce, those engineers to generate power, and to evict hoarders who try to hang on to more house than they can use.
Bribing the poor will work for a couple of years, but eventually the 'demand' part of the demand economy trickles down to the consumer/enforcer level.
Posted by: Potosi Joel at November 01, 2008 03:21 PM (TPRbZ)
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How about we just end all the fucking bullshit and get down to what Obambi really means:
The only people getting tax cuts are the ones voting for me!
Posted by: Murph at November 01, 2008 03:21 PM (2lMtB)
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The other day I wrote "No obama and No Socialism" on the back window of my Tahoe. I'm trying to get the message out.
Posted by: Ginger at November 01, 2008 03:22 PM (qSqPf)
Posted by: dri at November 01, 2008 03:24 PM (p8VUa)
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Bottom line: If Obama gets elected, your taxes are getting raised. It's that simple.
This, to me, is the biggest campaign mistake for Mac. For Obama to be perceived as a tax cutter is absolutely ridiculous. Taxes are how republicans win, it's how they have always won, at it will be how they win again.
Palin better have Larry Kudlow move in to the governors mansion with her and conduct supply side tutoring sessions on a daily basis, also move in Bolton and his mustache to tutor the national security issues. By 2012, she will be a lean(all baby fat gone), mean, fighting conservative machine. She will waltz into the white house along with 10 conservative senators and 50 conservative house members. I can dream.
Posted by: Judd at November 01, 2008 03:25 PM (GHSj0)
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This is why I hate obama. My husband is a first officer for Delta
airlines. He just started his second year is making about 80,000 a
year. My husband works his ass off trying to make a decent living for
his family. Mind you, I stay home to take care of our two daughters. We
are not rich rich by any stretch of the imagination. I hate how obama
wants to punish my husband simply because my husband is providing for
his family by being a hardworking American.
I could, and have, gone into tirade mode about this exact thing. Except I'm not an airline pilot - that's what my brother-in-law is trying to crack, as a means to support my sister and their child. Me, I'm just a'crackin' the foreign exchange market trying to get myself and my wife off the ground. BUT NO. We cannot possibly have THAT!, We says. Youses cannot just goes off and does yer own thingses! It must be approveds!
We aren't there quite yet. Close, though, so very close.
And what the fuck is wrong with some asshole like me trying to improve his own station - and that of his wife's - in life? Without the benefit of Bambam. Yes, I see the problem now. I cannot get credit for improving myself, and the lots of those around me. I must give thanks and praise where thanks and praise are due. Which, well, is where? Mount Olympus, perhaps?
I am reduced to pounding on my keyboard for lack of an ability to express the sheer frustration this foolishness conjures.
I could, and have, gone into tirade mode about this exact thing. Except I'm not an airline pilot - that's what my brother-in-law is trying to crack, as a means to support my sister and their child. Me, I'm just a'crackin' the foreign exchange market trying to get myself and my wife off the ground. BUT NO. We cannot possibly have THAT!, We says. Youses cannot just goes off and does yer own thingses! It must be approveds!
We aren't there quite yet. Close, though, so very close.
And what the fuck is wrong with some asshole like me trying to improve his own station - and that of his wife's - in life? Without the benefit of Bambam. Yes, I see the problem now. I cannot get credit for improving myself, and the lots of those around me. I must give thanks and praise where thanks and praise are due. Which, well, is where? Mount Olympus, perhaps?
I am reduced to pounding on my keyboard for lack of an ability to express the sheer frustration this foolishness conjures.
Posted by: amp at November 01, 2008 03:26 PM (h37S5)
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Is he going to cut Rainbows and Unicorns?
No....There will be enough magical pixie dust for everyone.
Except you fucking evil Republicans. Selfish Cocksuckers. Non Wealth Spreadin muthafuckkas.
Give me economic equality or give me ....I got nothin.
No....There will be enough magical pixie dust for everyone.
Except you fucking evil Republicans. Selfish Cocksuckers. Non Wealth Spreadin muthafuckkas.
Give me economic equality or give me ....I got nothin.
Posted by: JavaJoe at November 01, 2008 03:26 PM (Am6n/)
Posted by: amp at November 01, 2008 03:30 PM (h37S5)
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what is going to happen to all the ponies that everyone gets when they get tired of them crapping all over the carpet in the collective?
Posted by: robtr at November 01, 2008 03:32 PM (C6ME0)
Posted by: SlaveDog at November 01, 2008 03:34 PM (H6Jyg)
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One more time: in the Democratic Primaries, Obama made a pledge to not raise taxes on anyone earning under $250,000 a year. Of course, he made a pledge to work with public funds too. Liar. Hypocrite. Corrupt.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 01, 2008 03:34 PM (0+Ggj)
Posted by: Tinian at November 01, 2008 03:35 PM (Ohodx)
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Now if I am correct. Chicago holds the majority of the population of Illinois, right? In this video, I am gathering that obama thinks that people making over 70, 000 dollars a year in Illinois are rich. Last I heard, Chicago is not a cheap city to live in.
Posted by: Ginger at November 01, 2008 03:39 PM (qSqPf)
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ARGGKHGHHGGHG. just when it looked like there was a chance, hotair shows the latest gallup polls at +10 for BHO, in both "traditional" and "expanded" voter models. i mean COME ON. "GULP" is right. Is nothing going to close the gap? Even hotair doesn't seem to be exactly optimistic. And I hear the obamabots are actually turning away volunteers in PA because the have too many.
What is this country coming to?
Posted by: davep at November 01, 2008 03:39 PM (lus7y)
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ARGGKHGHHGGHG. just when it looked like there was a chance, hotair shows the latest gallup polls at +10 for BHO, in both "traditional" and "expanded" voter models. i mean COME ON. "GULP" is right. Is
I am Borack Hussein Obama and I approve this message.
Posted by: robtr at November 01, 2008 03:41 PM (C6ME0)
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PA is gone, the O isn't even going back there before the election. If there was even a sniff of them losing PA, he would be there for sure. I just have a hard time believing that every single poll out there is wrong.
Posted by: Judd at November 01, 2008 03:43 PM (GHSj0)
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Rasmussen is still at +5 for Obama. Today's Gallup is an outlier.
Posted by: SlaveDog at November 01, 2008 03:46 PM (H6Jyg)
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Axelturd better have a big bowl of cookies for his elves
Posted by: toby928 at November 01, 2008 03:51 PM (PD1tk)
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This comment could get lost in the rhubarb, or like so many others of mine, ated - but I'd like to know the views of Ace and the Tools as to where they think the American conservative movement is headed that would be coincident with future electoral victory.
I don't expect this to be considered seriously, but I'm going to suggest here that the impending Obama victory, and reserving the possibility that he will turn out to be a disappointment to the lefties, liberals and progressives by acting as a mostly conventional CENTRIST president, could work out to the relatively mid-term advantage of the Republican party - say by 2016 - if the Right plays its card smartly.
Here's a few contextual points:
[1] Within less than a decade, the percentage of European-heritage white skinned Americans who are entitled to vote is going to be overtaken by growth in other groups, notably white skinned Hispanics, such that for the first time since the Republic was founded, Euro white Ams will be at less than 50%.
That trend isn't likely to change.
[2] There hasn't been any significant growth in those with "black" or Afro-American heritage in over half a century. It's currently at about 11 to 12%, and may go down with the increases in Hispanics, Asians and Middle Easterns [semites, mostly Arab, and even more so Pakistanis and Indians, mostly Urdu-speaking or Sikh EG Governor Bobby Jindal].
That trend also seems unlikely to change.
[3] The simple fact that the US currency is by world convention the "world currency" is actually sheltering the US economy from the horrors of economic collapse elsewhere, which suggests that, as usual, once the tools are put in place properly to ensure against further collapse for same reasons that caused the recent collapse [in parallel to what happened with one element of the FDR New Deal from 1932 on], it's very likely that the US will be ahead of the world curve in coming out of the current world recession.
[4] General prosperity has proven historically to serve conservative movements well.
Putting all that together, for the Republican party to go whiter, or, heaven forbid, all Stormfront, is quite simply a self-defeating strategy.
This is probably something most of you won't recall, but I'm old enough to remember when Jackie Robinson left the baseball diamonds and started his brief and frankly disappointing political career. Note: he did so by pointedly rejecting the option of do it as a Democrat, and specifically, deliberately chose to become a Republican.
He didn't make that choice on the basis that Dixiecrats meant the Dem party was still in the thrall of southern white racists - that as was quite predictable was, and was always going to be, redressed in the policies of the Kennedy and Johnson [and if not them, then Humphrey and the Minnesota left-farmer-labor movement], as pushed by Martin Luther King.
Robinson made the choice to become Republican because he foresaw the southern white vote leaving the Dem party due to the civil rights movement, and joining in with the white eastern and middle eastern establishment of those days.
But African Americans are not likely to ever move away from the Dems because of the combination of LBJ's civil rights initiatives and this Obama victory.
The concern for Republicans has to be whether the Dem party becomes the beneficiary of "hope" for ALL those who are not Euro whites - because if that happens, as it certainly has done so in this election, Republicans and conservatives can kiss the presidency goodbye for the rest of the century, or global meltdown, whichever comes further.
I offer this for what it's worth: It seems to me the best strategy for conservatives is to buy in and pitch in fully on those of the bigger initatives on the Obama administration's plate that serve the interests of right centrists and moderates, while holding it back on ones the Right holds more dear.
Thus: big government investment in renewal of infrastructure and hand in glove with that, big government investment in energy alternatives, are really not open to objection by anyone.
Also, the Obama GOTV programs are a given anyway [that the "redistributive justice" Obama was talking about in that 2001 radio program] so why fight that - just deal with it.
But where the Right might wish to hold the line [with the few troops in Washington available for now] is at moral justice, religious expression and states rights.
I think there's a big opportunity for the Right to hold the line on those areas, because Obama has already written and spoken and taught things which suggests he is open to supporting the continuation of those.
Anyway, like I say, I'll be surprised if this doesn't get zapped.
I don't expect this to be considered seriously, but I'm going to suggest here that the impending Obama victory, and reserving the possibility that he will turn out to be a disappointment to the lefties, liberals and progressives by acting as a mostly conventional CENTRIST president, could work out to the relatively mid-term advantage of the Republican party - say by 2016 - if the Right plays its card smartly.
Here's a few contextual points:
[1] Within less than a decade, the percentage of European-heritage white skinned Americans who are entitled to vote is going to be overtaken by growth in other groups, notably white skinned Hispanics, such that for the first time since the Republic was founded, Euro white Ams will be at less than 50%.
That trend isn't likely to change.
[2] There hasn't been any significant growth in those with "black" or Afro-American heritage in over half a century. It's currently at about 11 to 12%, and may go down with the increases in Hispanics, Asians and Middle Easterns [semites, mostly Arab, and even more so Pakistanis and Indians, mostly Urdu-speaking or Sikh EG Governor Bobby Jindal].
That trend also seems unlikely to change.
[3] The simple fact that the US currency is by world convention the "world currency" is actually sheltering the US economy from the horrors of economic collapse elsewhere, which suggests that, as usual, once the tools are put in place properly to ensure against further collapse for same reasons that caused the recent collapse [in parallel to what happened with one element of the FDR New Deal from 1932 on], it's very likely that the US will be ahead of the world curve in coming out of the current world recession.
[4] General prosperity has proven historically to serve conservative movements well.
Putting all that together, for the Republican party to go whiter, or, heaven forbid, all Stormfront, is quite simply a self-defeating strategy.
This is probably something most of you won't recall, but I'm old enough to remember when Jackie Robinson left the baseball diamonds and started his brief and frankly disappointing political career. Note: he did so by pointedly rejecting the option of do it as a Democrat, and specifically, deliberately chose to become a Republican.
He didn't make that choice on the basis that Dixiecrats meant the Dem party was still in the thrall of southern white racists - that as was quite predictable was, and was always going to be, redressed in the policies of the Kennedy and Johnson [and if not them, then Humphrey and the Minnesota left-farmer-labor movement], as pushed by Martin Luther King.
Robinson made the choice to become Republican because he foresaw the southern white vote leaving the Dem party due to the civil rights movement, and joining in with the white eastern and middle eastern establishment of those days.
But African Americans are not likely to ever move away from the Dems because of the combination of LBJ's civil rights initiatives and this Obama victory.
The concern for Republicans has to be whether the Dem party becomes the beneficiary of "hope" for ALL those who are not Euro whites - because if that happens, as it certainly has done so in this election, Republicans and conservatives can kiss the presidency goodbye for the rest of the century, or global meltdown, whichever comes further.
I offer this for what it's worth: It seems to me the best strategy for conservatives is to buy in and pitch in fully on those of the bigger initatives on the Obama administration's plate that serve the interests of right centrists and moderates, while holding it back on ones the Right holds more dear.
Thus: big government investment in renewal of infrastructure and hand in glove with that, big government investment in energy alternatives, are really not open to objection by anyone.
Also, the Obama GOTV programs are a given anyway [that the "redistributive justice" Obama was talking about in that 2001 radio program] so why fight that - just deal with it.
But where the Right might wish to hold the line [with the few troops in Washington available for now] is at moral justice, religious expression and states rights.
I think there's a big opportunity for the Right to hold the line on those areas, because Obama has already written and spoken and taught things which suggests he is open to supporting the continuation of those.
Anyway, like I say, I'll be surprised if this doesn't get zapped.
Posted by: diderot's dog at November 01, 2008 03:53 PM (nrD02)
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Watching that shit from Barry O the Media Ho is scary...if he's elected, he's gonna dork all of us in the squeakhole for the better good of his Socialist Utopia. It's gonna be IL politics on a larger scale...and us living in a third world shithole...
Posted by: Eeyore's Swinging Sack at November 01, 2008 04:12 PM (VYEVW)
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davep and other trolls above: "Gulp" is right. Now spit out that cock. You've had it in your mouth long enough.
Posted by: nikkolai at November 01, 2008 04:19 PM (G8d+5)
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How does Gallup have the same margin in ‘traditional’ and ‘expanded,’ when ‘expanded’ supposedly factors a larger percentage of Democrat turnout?
That alone should make this number highly suspect.
Were these numbers taken last night (a holiday night), or does it include Saturday time as well?Posted by: Stinky Esposito at November 01, 2008 04:22 PM (MMC8r)
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Lordy, but that Zogby number has thrown the Obama people into a tizzy. The Axel-turfers sound especially desperate this afternoon.
I imagine there's great wailing and gnashing of teeth at Obama central.
I imagine there's great wailing and gnashing of teeth at Obama central.
Posted by: DelD at November 01, 2008 04:23 PM (Yw/4J)
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I offer this for what it's worth: It seems to me the best strategy for conservatives is to buy in and pitch in fully on those of the bigger initatives on the Obama administration's plate that serve the interests of right centrists and moderates, while holding it back on ones the Right holds more dear.
I offer this for what it is worth, considering the fact that ALL of Obama's initatives are far left socialist policies that most of America will be aghast at if disaster strikes on Tuesday and that creep is elected the best strategy for the right will be to fight him tooth and nail on anything he tries to do. Point out all of his mistakes, unfilled campaign promise, the massive $1 trillion deficit he will have next year, defeat in Iraq, continue researching his ties to terrorist and crimminals and take back the house and senate in 2010 to make him a one term disaster like Carter was. just sayin
Posted by: robtr at November 01, 2008 04:25 PM (C6ME0)
Posted by: diderot's doggie at November 01, 2008 04:27 PM (G8d+5)
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I'm guessing that Obama did not have a very Happy Halloween!
Posted by: nikkolai at November 01, 2008 04:28 PM (G8d+5)
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davep and other trolls above: "Gulp" is right. Now spit out that cock. You've had it in your mouth long enough.
Shit. That was funny and yet true.
Posted by: Ginger at November 01, 2008 04:37 PM (qSqPf)
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Lordy, but that Zogby number has thrown the Obama people into a tizzy. The Axel-turfers sound especially desperate this afternoon.
Yeah something has them in a panic, but do they think this really works? I mean Moby's idiots had no effect in 2004, this seems like a lot of money to no good end.
Posted by: Luna Lovegood at November 01, 2008 04:50 PM (0+Ggj)
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Er, that was me, of course.
So, when McCain wins, will the Obots blame their crappy candidate and hyper leftist stances for annoying the public or scream cheat?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 01, 2008 04:51 PM (0+Ggj)
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Scream cheat, of course.
Whatever fucking works.
You people should have picked up the Alinsky playbook by now.
Whatever fucking works.
You people should have picked up the Alinsky playbook by now.
Posted by: amp at November 01, 2008 05:13 PM (h37S5)
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So, when McCain wins, will the Obots blame their crappy candidate and
hyper leftist stances for annoying the public or scream cheat?
Riot actually.
Riot actually.
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Posted by: Fuck you Ace - free speech at November 01, 2008 07:22 PM (XHgfM)
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not the Obama i knew
Posted by: Barrack Obama at November 01, 2008 08:19 PM (004wR)
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