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| US Casualties Down In Iraq And Afghanistan...Terrorist Casualties Up In PakistanLet's double up on the good news, shall we? U.S. deaths in Iraq fell in October to their lowest monthly level of the war, matching the record low of 13 fatalities suffered in July. Iraqi deaths fell to their lowest monthly levels of the year. Eight of the 13 Americans died in combat, most of them in northern Iraq where al-Qaida and other Sunni insurgent groups remain active. The U.S. military suffered 25 deaths in September and 23 in August. In Afghanistan, meanwhile, 15 U.S. military deaths were reported for October. The monthly toll in that combat theater had been in the 20s since June, when 28 Americans were killed - the worst one-month total since that war began in late 2001.It's pretty amazing to think that non-combat deaths out numbered combat ones in Iraq. While that's 'good' news, it's also a reminder that no matter where they are, US servicemen and women are doing very important and dangerous work on our behalf. Meanwhile, the hits keep on coming in Pakistan. An Egyptian Al-Qaeda operative -- described by the United States as the terror network's propaganda chief -- was killed in a missile strike in Pakistan, security officials said on Saturday. Abu Jihad al-Masri was among several rebels killed when two missiles fired by a suspected US spy drone hit a truck in the North Waziristan tribal region bordering Afghanistan on Friday night, they said. The United States has offered a one-million-dollar bounty for the death or capture of al-Masri, who has appeared in an anti-Western video introduced by Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's number two. "The strike was aimed at a vehicle carrying Abu Jihad and two others. The target was successfully hit and all three people were killed," a senior Pakistani security official told AFP on condition of anonymity.And as a bonus...US troops killed 19 terrorists in Afghanistan. Comments1
U.S. deaths in Iraq fell in October to their lowest monthly level of the war. ZERO combat deaths, the 16 deaths in Iraq were either "misadventure" or suicide, ZERO combat deaths. Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 10:37 AM (ul7te) Posted by: DrewM. at November 01, 2008 10:39 AM (hlYel) 3
Well done, allies. Way to kick ass.
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I just read a No DEATHS article! FUCK! FUCK! (I'm not fucking being wrong, I'm fucking good men dying, okay that didn't sound right, but you know what I mean) Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 10:43 AM (ul7te) 5
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Fewer of us dead; more of them dead. Perfect way to start November.
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Here's a video on HillBuzz, fiction, on what would happen with Barack Obama in the office. Tongue-in-cheek. Funny as heck!
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U.S. deaths in Iraq fell in October to their lowest monthly level of the war. This is not the war Barack, Nancy, and Harry were counting on. Our brave soldiers have freed millions from tyranny - honor them by going out and vote for the brave veteran who will free this country from socialism and government by inquisition. Posted by: sherlock at November 01, 2008 11:26 AM (ojW85) 13
Thank God for fewer U.S. casualties in the war on terror. Now, if we could just do something about the war on shit like this. My daughter's roommate. It's probably needless to say that she will not be returning there again. Has anyone heard Obama's stance on crime? How does he feel about the death penalty? *nevermind, I'm afraid I already know. Posted by: jmflynny at November 01, 2008 11:30 AM (2Pof0) Posted by: Steve (aka Ed Snate) at November 01, 2008 11:32 AM (31r7I) 15
jmflynn, that's terrible. I'm sorry for the innocent murder victims. I'm glad your daughter is "okay".
Posted by: Christoph at November 01, 2008 11:34 AM (hawOV) 16
Other good news, Gen Petraeus finally confirmed as CENTCOM Commander yesterday.
Posted by: MikeD at November 01, 2008 12:05 PM (cR01C) 17
So, HEY JmFlynny, hows things? I'm all cool and sutff, but you know, hey, how are you? so, uh, well hey, look! venus is rising in the morning! thats nice isn't it? don't you think? So JmFlynny, whats your situation? Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 12:12 PM (ul7te) 18
Wickedpinto... with all due respect because I like you... unless I'm totally missing something, I don't think you're friend's having a great day. Please read his post carefully and the article he linked to.
Sorry for being a jerk by mentioning it. Posted by: Christoph at November 01, 2008 12:17 PM (hawOV) 19
Pinto, are you coming off a two day binge or are you just a fucking a-hole? I woke up this morning to my daughter screaming and crying on the phone because one of her roommates was outside their apartment smoking when he was shot dead in a mugging. The young man leaves behind two small children. He and his smoking buddy are deaths 116 and 117 for Jacksonville thus far this year. Not fucking Miami or New Orleans, but fucking Jacksonville. Pardon me if according to your high fucking standards I seemed a bit reckless in my typing. Posted by: jmflynny at November 01, 2008 12:29 PM (2Pof0) Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 12:35 PM (ul7te) 21
I was "Watch" for an SI, who was cycling out, when I was in. The guy ended up killing himself, and even though I wasn't on watch at the time, I felt responsible, I've told this story before, but it's still a bitch. Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 12:37 PM (ul7te) 22
My point, is I will not minimize the experience. It's a REAL BITCH!
Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 12:38 PM (ul7te) 23
No matter how old they are, the thought still runs through your mind, "What if?" No problem Pinto. Posted by: jmflynny at November 01, 2008 12:49 PM (2Pof0) 24
We have crushed our enemies with the sparing almost miniscule loss of our own blood. This will go down in history as the most lopsided victory ever! In any fight, bet on the side with flying killer robots. Posted by: United States of America at November 01, 2008 12:50 PM (WDySP) Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 12:54 PM (ul7te) 26
we lost more lives in an EXCERCISE for operation overlord, than we lost during both wars combined. A President obama in 1944, wouldn't have authorized an "operation overlord" he would have signed a treaty for operation OVER. Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 12:55 PM (ul7te) 27
jmflynny - that's awful. Very sorry to hear that news.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at November 01, 2008 12:56 PM (eiOZw) 28
"we lost more lives in an EXCERCISE for operation overlord, than we lost during both wars combined."
No. Posted by: Christoph at November 01, 2008 12:58 PM (hawOV) 29
You're right christoph, I was off numbered. we lost about 4300, in the excercise, we've now lost about 4200 in Iraq. I fucked up. That was an old comment, I ran too. Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 01:00 PM (ul7te) 30
FUCK!!! 4400 in iraq.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 01:01 PM (ul7te) 31
You didn't lose anywhere near 4300 in that exercise. Try 749. Still a tragedy.
Posted by: Christoph at November 01, 2008 01:02 PM (hawOV) 32
There were 749 soldiers and sailors killed in an E-boat attack during Exercise Tiger, prior to the invasion of Normandy.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at November 01, 2008 01:03 PM (eiOZw) 33
I accept your info, but I'm gonna dig some of that shit up, but probably won't. Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 01:04 PM (ul7te) 34
Still a tragedy Of course it was, but Victory was the goal, so it was inconsequential next to victory. Heinlein in "To Sail Beyond the Sunset" described those who died of the flu in garrisson as hero's. "They didn't get there in time, but they died in service." I'm manipulating and paraphrasing. Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 01:08 PM (ul7te) 35
Wickedpinto, I think you're getting Exercise Tiger mixed up with the actual Dieppe raid in 1942. Canada, incidentally, bore the brunt of that.
The total casualties were still under 4,000, but were very serious for a country with a population size and military strength of Canada at that time. Posted by: Christoph at November 01, 2008 01:08 PM (hawOV) 36
JUST PUTTING on the FUCKING UNIFORM! with the exception of me, EVERYONE ELSE, ROCKS!!!
Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 01:09 PM (ul7te) 37
No, Dave's right, he knows my historical basic's, and he's using the english excercise, which is what I was referencing.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 01:11 PM (ul7te) 38
For what it's worth, the lessons learned at Dieppe (Operation Jubilee) would prove vital to the allies during Operation Overlord.
Posted by: Christoph at November 01, 2008 01:14 PM (hawOV) 39
I wonder what effect the Predator factor has been having on the trucking and life insurance industry in Wazaristan?
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Our price per kill is competely unsustainable.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 01:30 PM (ul7te) 41
It costs a whole lot to train, feed, clothe, equip, ensure, resupply, and rearm a soldier, Wickedpinto. If using technology reduces casualties, kills the enemy without warning, and demoralizes them when they can't even strike back at their killers... it's worth it.
Posted by: Christoph at November 01, 2008 01:36 PM (hawOV) Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 01:39 PM (ul7te) 43
The total casualties were still under 4,000, but were very serious
for a country with a population size and military strength of Canada at
that time.
I like a good Canada joke as much as anyone but the truth is, Canada has always punched above its weight. Well, there were a couple of years where they left the ring. It's good to have them back in the fight and aee political leadership worthy of the troops they command. Posted by: DrewM. at November 01, 2008 01:41 PM (hlYel) 44
"A Hellfire up your ass!" is expensive, a "JDAMN! down your A RAM! is expensive. price per kill is climbing based on our whatchamakalit. We are spending too much too kill too few. We are killing the right people, THAT WE KNOW ABOUT! but, I'm sorry, WWII wasn't won through precision warfare, and it wouldn't have been. We must completely and totaly demoralize our opponents. Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 01:42 PM (ul7te) 45
threat aversity. I think might be the term.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 01:43 PM (ul7te) 46
Colon (I didn't mispell it, it's satire) powell during BHD, "17 dead in vietnam wouldn't even make the papers." He's was right then, but now he's "Risk Averse" (THATS THE TERM!!!) cuz he's a politician now, and no longer a warrior. Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 01:45 PM (ul7te) 47
Wickedpinto, you're too trapped in the past and, frankly, I don't think you're a military expert in a strategic sense.
Keeping technologically superior to your enemy -- which is expensive -- is more "sustainable" than having an ineffective poorly equipped military that trades casualties for cost. Throughout history technological superiority has been key to winning battles and wars. For God's sakes! It's the main advantage of the west: military science. Posted by: Christoph at November 01, 2008 01:50 PM (hawOV) 48
Chris, I am totaly in favor of technological superiority. But! To remove the tactical and strategic element based on the idea of reducing risk, AS YET, is wrong. The Marines CONQUER ground, the Army holds it, and the navy and AF supports it. CAX fucker. I'm not a modern day Clausewitz, but I doubt you know a fucking thing about him at all. "If you can sustain a defense, maintain a defense, against an enemy who is desirous of assets." Or some shit like that. We expend WAY TOO MUCH! out of aversion to risk, and will spend ourselves into oblivion. USE tech, but you can't replace WAR with tech. GET IT? Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 01:57 PM (ul7te) 49
Throughout history technological superiority has been key to winning
battles and wars. For God's sakes! It's the main advantage of the west:
military science.
Tell that to the Russians. Quantity has a quality all of it's own. Posted by: Nightmares at November 01, 2008 02:02 PM (Am6n/) Posted by: JavaJoe at November 01, 2008 02:04 PM (Am6n/) 51
Tell that to the revolutionaries. Determination wins. Read "The Song of Ice and Fire." "It isn't numbers, or technology that wins wars. It's DISCIPLINE that wins wars." FACT and for there to be discipline, you need sometthing to believe in. GOD BLESS AMERICA! Our Military believes in something, even if we elect a piece of shit, the Military will still believe. Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 02:06 PM (ul7te) Posted by: JavaJoe at November 01, 2008 02:07 PM (Am6n/) 53
I have a shitload of personal story's and even more second hand stories about how SHITTY other countries are at the art of war. In my experience, only England and Australia hold a candle to us (no offense canada, you are a close fourth) Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 02:08 PM (ul7te) 54
WRONG Javajoe. Only time the US had a close fight was when we were fighting ourselves, and even then it was lopsided. Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 02:09 PM (ul7te) 55
WRONG Javajoe.
Sorry Pinto, But check the link. My point was in regards to technology and lack of for a battle. Posted by: JavaJoe at November 01, 2008 02:12 PM (Am6n/) 56
Oh, sorry, me fuck up. checky linky.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 02:19 PM (ul7te) Posted by: JavaJoe at November 01, 2008 02:30 PM (Am6n/) 58
OH SHIT!!! artist formerly known as ED!!! Sobek, myself and mus are gunna hit the city, e-mail, will give you number. Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 02:38 PM (ul7te) 59
"Only time the US had a close fight was when we were fighting ourselves, and even then it was lopsided."
Yes. And that's because of your technological and logistical superiority, resulting from your industry and economic system of capitalism. Technology is not enough to win wars, but it's a good start. Posted by: Christoph at November 01, 2008 02:39 PM (hawOV) 60
Even the part where the Civil War was lopsided was the freer, more industrial North defeating the South. Despite the North's early marginal generals.
Posted by: Christoph at November 01, 2008 02:41 PM (hawOV) 61
losses were grotesquely lopsided, and that is before the sintle cartridge became common, hell, it was never common, during the war of norther aggression. We just kicked the souths ass, using classic fighting skills. Which was. . . DISCIPLINE! Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 02:45 PM (ul7te) 62
I need to bail. Bro coming over, want him to nummy on my chili. SO HELP ME IF YOU GUYS MAKE A JOKE OF THAT!!!!!!! I will do absolutely nothing, cuz I walked into it. Posted by: Wickedpinto at November 01, 2008 02:49 PM (ul7te) 63
This is such great news. We all owe a debt of gratitude to Speaker Pelosi and the Democratic Congress for keeping pressure on the White House to change the strategy of fighting this war. And it has worked. Way to go troops! You guys (and ladies too) are the best! Make sure you vote for Obama who will be the most effective commander-in-chief since George Washingon himself!! Yes, we can!
Posted by: Lizzie at November 01, 2008 03:00 PM (Kbl0/) 64
Hi Lizzie,
Glad to see you're back again. Although the Strategy that the democrats proposed was what? Divide Iraq into 3 nations? Can you elaborate on that? I'm an undecided voter just recently lurking on this site and I want to subscribe to your newsletter... Posted by: GullibleJoe at November 01, 2008 03:15 PM (Am6n/) 65
We all owe a debt of gratitude to Speaker Pelosi and the Democratic
Congress for keeping pressure on the White House to change the strategy
of fighting this war.
I laughed out loud Posted by: toby928 at November 01, 2008 03:46 PM (PD1tk) 66
Yeah, Lizzie is really Treacher, ace , or Iowahawk. No one could be that dense in real life.
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I live in Jax. Well, way outside of it so that I am out of the normal range of crime. It constantly amazes me how much violence this city holds. The Mandarin area is not even in a particularly bad area of town. None of my children has experienced what yours has, but my oldest daughter hit and killed a 5 yo boy with her car. There was nothing she could do, but the accident devastated her. All I can tell you is that your daughter will need you in ways you may not yet fathom and she may not recover on the inside for quite some time. I wish you strength, fortitude and peace. Posted by: ConcernedCitizen at November 01, 2008 05:10 PM (hmDr/) 68
@61: Except U.S. Grant said that the Union Army exceeded the Confederate Army in all aspects except one: discipline. He said the Confederates' discipline far exceeded that of the Union.
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