1

U.S. deaths in Iraq fell in October to their lowest monthly level of the war.

ZERO combat deaths, the 16 deaths in Iraq were either "misadventure" or suicide, ZERO combat deaths.

2 Wicked,

That's not true. There were combat deaths in October in Iraq.
(Link fixed)

3 Well done, allies. Way to kick ass.

4

I just read a No DEATHS article!

FUCK!

FUCK!

(I'm not fucking being wrong, I'm fucking good men dying, okay that didn't sound right, but you know what I mean)

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6 That what you do sir geico?

7 Fewer of us dead; more of them dead. Perfect way to start November.

8

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"9 1/2 mens?  not likely."

He asked anyways, and then bitched "It's so hard to find shoes my size."

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He asked, anyways.

You think shoe shopping with a girlfriend or wife is a bitch?  do it with your gay friend, a fucking nightmare.

Thank god he had small feet for a man.

9

wow.  that's a wierd story even for wickedpinto.

10

IreneFingIrene,  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

You CLEARLY don't read the Hostages.

That is MILD!

11 Here's a video on HillBuzz, fiction, on what would happen with Barack Obama in the office. Tongue-in-cheek. Funny as heck!

12

U.S. deaths in Iraq fell in October to their lowest monthly level of the war.

This is not the war Barack, Nancy, and Harry were counting on.  Our brave soldiers have freed millions from tyranny - honor them by going out and vote for the brave veteran who will free this country from socialism and government by inquisition.

13

Thank God for fewer U.S. casualties in the war on terror. Now, if we could just do something about the war on shit like this.

My daughter's roommate.

It's probably needless to say that she will not be returning there again.

Has anyone heard Obama's stance on crime? How does he feel about the death penalty?

*_{nevermind, I'm afraid I already know.}

14
Great news.

Please don't ever has a nightmare thread again.

15 jmflynn, that's terrible. I'm sorry for the innocent murder victims. I'm glad your daughter is "okay".

16 Other good news, Gen Petraeus finally confirmed as CENTCOM Commander yesterday.

17

So, HEY JmFlynny, hows things?

I'm all cool and sutff, but you know, hey, how are you?

so, uh,

well hey, look! venus is rising in the morning!  thats nice isn't it?  don't you think?

So JmFlynny, whats your situation?

18 Wickedpinto... with all due respect because I like you... unless I'm totally missing something, I don't think you're friend's having a great day. Please read his post carefully and the article he linked to.

Sorry for being a jerk by mentioning it.

19

Pinto, are you coming off a two day binge or are you just a fucking a-hole?

I woke up this morning to my daughter screaming and crying on the phone because one of her roommates was outside their apartment smoking when he was shot dead in a mugging. The young man leaves behind two small children.

He and his smoking buddy are deaths 116 and 117 for Jacksonville thus far this year. Not fucking Miami or New Orleans, but fucking Jacksonville.

Pardon me if according to your high fucking standards I seemed a bit reckless in my typing.

20

I just totaly missed the comment Jmflynny.

Man!!! thats fucked up!!  sorry.

21

I was "Watch" for an SI, who was cycling out, when I was in.

The guy ended up killing himself, and even though I wasn't on watch at the time, I felt responsible, I've told this story before, but it's still a bitch.

22 My point, is I will not minimize the experience.  It's a REAL BITCH!

23

No matter how old they are, the thought still runs through your mind, "What if?"

No problem Pinto.

24

We have crushed our enemies with the sparing almost miniscule loss of our own blood.  This will go down in history as the most lopsided victory ever!

In any fight, bet on the side with flying killer robots.

25

Iraq, and Afghanistan WERE cakewalks.

Yes, we lost lives, but in general, it was.

26

we lost more lives in an EXCERCISE for operation overlord, than we lost during both wars combined.

A President obama in 1944, wouldn't have authorized an "operation overlord" he would have signed a treaty for operation OVER.

27 jmflynny - that's awful.  Very sorry to hear that news.

28 "we lost more lives in an EXCERCISE for operation overlord, than we lost during both wars combined."

No.

29

You're right christoph, I was off numbered.

we lost about 4300, in the excercise, we've now lost about 4200 in Iraq.  I fucked up.

That was an old comment, I ran too.

30 FUCK!!! 4400 in iraq.

31 You didn't lose anywhere near 4300 in that exercise. Try 749. Still a tragedy.

32 There were 749 soldiers and sailors killed in an E-boat attack during Exercise Tiger, prior to the invasion of Normandy.

33

I accept your info, but I'm gonna dig some of that shit up, but probably won't.

34

Still a tragedy

Of course it was, but Victory was the goal, so it was inconsequential next to victory.

Heinlein in "To Sail Beyond the Sunset" described those who died of the flu in garrisson as hero's.

"They didn't get there in time, but they died in service."  I'm manipulating and paraphrasing.

35 Wickedpinto, I think you're getting Exercise Tiger mixed up with the actual Dieppe raid in 1942. Canada, incidentally, bore the brunt of that.

The total casualties were still under 4,000, but were very serious for a country with a population size and military strength of Canada at that time.

36 JUST PUTTING on the FUCKING UNIFORM! with the exception of me, EVERYONE ELSE, ROCKS!!!

37 No, Dave's right, he knows my historical basic's, and he's using the english excercise, which is what I was referencing.

38 For what it's worth, the lessons learned at Dieppe (Operation Jubilee) would prove vital to the allies during Operation Overlord.

39 I wonder what effect the Predator factor has been having on the trucking and life insurance industry in Wazaristan?

Raghead Insurance broker: Achmed your insurance for your Heroin smuggling outfit is going up this week. I am sorry but it is Allah's will (PBUH)!

Achmed : But you just raised it LAST WEEK infidel! How much is it now you Ali Baba!

Raghead Insurance: Now now Achmed, no need to compare me to the cursed by Allah (PBUH) Americans. Your new rate will be a dozen goats, a virgin, and two young boys each month. In advance.

Achmed: What is that noise I hear......

40 Our price per kill is competely unsustainable.

41 It costs a whole lot to train, feed, clothe, equip, ensure, resupply, and rearm a soldier, Wickedpinto. If using technology reduces casualties, kills the enemy without warning, and demoralizes them when they can't even strike back at their killers... it's worth it.

42

We depend on technology, increasing our price per kill.

Unsustainainable.

43 The total casualties were still under 4,000, but were very serious for a country with a population size and military strength of Canada at that time.

I like a good Canada joke as much as anyone but the truth is, Canada has always punched above its weight. Well, there were a couple of years where they left the ring. It's good to have them back in the fight and aee political leadership worthy of the troops they command.

44

"A Hellfire up your ass!"  is expensive, a "JDAMN! down your A RAM! is expensive.

price per kill is climbing based on our whatchamakalit.

We are spending too much too kill too few.

We are killing the right people, THAT WE KNOW ABOUT!  but, I'm sorry,

WWII wasn't won through precision warfare, and it wouldn't have been.

We must completely and totaly demoralize our opponents.

45 threat aversity.  I think might be the term.

46

Colon (I didn't mispell it, it's satire) powell during BHD, "17 dead in vietnam wouldn't even make the papers."

He's was right then, but now he's "Risk Averse"  (THATS THE TERM!!!) cuz he's a politician now, and no longer a warrior.

47 Wickedpinto, you're too trapped in the past and, frankly, I don't think you're a military expert in a strategic sense.

Keeping technologically superior to your enemy -- which is expensive -- is more "sustainable" than having an ineffective poorly equipped military that trades casualties for cost.

Throughout history technological superiority has been key to winning battles and wars. For God's sakes! It's the main advantage of the west: military science.

48

Chris, I am totaly in favor of technological superiority.

But!

To remove the tactical and strategic element based on the idea of reducing risk, AS YET, is wrong.

The Marines CONQUER ground, the Army holds it, and the navy and AF supports it.

CAX fucker.

I'm not a modern day Clausewitz, but I doubt you know a fucking thing about him at all.

"If you can sustain a defense, maintain a defense, against an enemy who is desirous of assets."

Or some shit like that.

We expend WAY TOO MUCH! out of aversion to risk, and will spend ourselves into oblivion.

USE tech, but you can't replace WAR with tech.

GET IT?

49 Throughout history technological superiority has been key to winning battles and wars. For God's sakes! It's the main advantage of the west: military science.

Tell that to the Russians.

Quantity has a quality all of it's own.

50 Damn sockpuppet

51

Tell that to the revolutionaries.

Determination wins.

Read "The Song of Ice and Fire."

"It isn't numbers, or technology that wins wars.  It's DISCIPLINE that wins wars."

FACT

and for there to be discipline, you need sometthing to believe in.

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Our Military believes in something, even if we elect a piece of shit, the Military will still believe.

52 Even when the sides were far apart tech wise the outcome wasn't always certain.

53

I have a shitload of personal story's and even more second hand stories about how SHITTY other countries are at the art of war.

In my experience, only England and Australia hold a candle to us (no offense canada, you are a close fourth)

54

WRONG Javajoe.

Only time the US had a close fight was when we were fighting ourselves, and even then it was lopsided.

55 WRONG Javajoe.

Sorry Pinto,

But check the link.

My point was in regards to technology and lack of for a battle.

56 Oh, sorry, me fuck up.  checky linky.

57 NP,

We're both on the same line of thought about it.

58

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59 "Only time the US had a close fight was when we were fighting ourselves, and even then it was lopsided."

Yes. And that's because of your technological and logistical superiority, resulting from your industry and economic system of capitalism. Technology is not enough to win wars, but it's a good start.

60 Even the part where the Civil War was lopsided was the freer, more industrial North defeating the South. Despite the North's early marginal generals.

61

losses were grotesquely lopsided, and that is before the sintle cartridge became common, hell, it was never common, during the war of norther aggression.

We just kicked the souths ass, using classic fighting skills.

Which was. . . DISCIPLINE!

62

I need to bail.

Bro coming over, want him to nummy on my chili.

SO HELP ME IF YOU GUYS MAKE A JOKE OF THAT!!!!!!!

I will do absolutely nothing, cuz I walked into it.

63 This is such great news.  We all owe a debt of gratitude to Speaker Pelosi and the Democratic Congress for keeping pressure on the White House to change the strategy of fighting this war.  And it has worked.  Way to go troops!  You guys (and ladies too) are the best! Make sure you vote for Obama who will be the most effective commander-in-chief since George Washingon himself!! Yes, we can!

64 Hi Lizzie,

Glad to see you're back again.

Although the Strategy that the democrats proposed was what? Divide Iraq into 3 nations?

Can you elaborate on that?

I'm an undecided voter just recently lurking on this site and I want to subscribe to your newsletter...

65 We all owe a debt of gratitude to Speaker Pelosi and the Democratic Congress for keeping pressure on the White House to change the strategy of fighting this war.

I laughed out loud

66 Yeah, Lizzie is really Treacher, ace , or Iowahawk. No one could be that dense in real life.

67 jmflynny,

I live in Jax. Well, way outside of it so that I am out of the normal range of crime. It constantly amazes me how much violence this city holds. The Mandarin area is not even in a particularly bad area of town.

None of my children has experienced what yours has, but my oldest daughter hit and killed a 5 yo boy with her car. There was nothing she could do, but the accident devastated her.

All I can tell you is that your daughter will need you in ways you may not yet fathom and she may not recover on the inside for quite some time.

I wish you strength, fortitude and peace.

68 @61:  Except U.S. Grant said that the Union Army exceeded the Confederate Army in all aspects except one: discipline.  He said the Confederates' discipline far exceeded that of the Union.

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