Brunner: Federal Law Requires Me To Have a System for Double-Checking Registrations in Place, But Does Not Actually Require Me to Double-Check Them or Use That System
Brunner's Tie to ACORN Official Raises New Questions Project Vote director who advised Brunner allegedly worked with Obama campaign (Columbus) - Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner's connection to a top ACORN official raises troubling new questions about her refusal to disclose at least 200,000 questionable voter registrations being held by her office. An investigation into ACORN's alleged fraudulent election activity revealed on Wednesday that one of its national directors, Karyn Gillette, collaborated with the Obama campaign to raise funds for the group's voter registration efforts. Gillette is identified on Jennifer Brunner's 2006 campaign website as a consultant to Brunner, and a blog entry filed by Brunner's husband Rick adds that "our candidate had gone earlier in the day to have some meetings and work out of Karyn Gillette's office." Rick Brunner also describes Gillette as "very helpful to the campaign." According to campaign finance reports, Gillette, a longtime fundraising consultant to Ohio Democrats, was paid $21,250 by Brunner's campaign. An ACORN whistleblower testified in a Pennsylvania state court on Wednesday that "in November 2007 Project Vote development director Karyn Gillette told her she had direct contact with the Obama campaign and had obtained their donor lists." Project Vote is the voter registration arm of ACORN. (Wall Street Journal, 10/29/0 "Jennifer Brunner's ties to a top ACORN official, who is also accused of collaborating with the Obama campaign, suggest she's orchestrating a cover-up to protect her friends," said Ohio Republican Party Deputy Chairman Kevin DeWine. "This group has publicly testified that it's members engage in fraudulent election activity, and at least one voter said he was persuaded by ACORN to cast a bogus ballot. It's time for Jennifer Brunner to stop the concealing the evidence and start restoring confidence in the integrity of Ohio's election." Gillette is not Brunner's only tie to ACORN. Members of the group's voter registration arm, Project Vote, regularly advise Brunner on election strategy, previously serving on her Voter Rights Institute and even recently issuing a news release claiming credit for Brunner's directive banning challenges to suspected fraudulent voter registrations.
That's a press release, but I should note that Bonnie used her Google-Fu and sent me this tip an hour ago. Nice, Bonnie.
1 I take it Obama is a bit concerned about Ohio.
Posted by: The Obvious at October 30, 2008 09:04 PM (1g+FW)
2 I'm not gonna call her that word. Ya know, the one that starts with c and ends with unt, also I think it rhymes with bitch, but I had extra tequila lately.
Posted by: Dash Rendar at October 30, 2008 09:05 PM (/TEUM)
3 Reminds me of Torricelli in 2002 (or whenever). New Jersey election law allows political parties to change candidates
51 days or more before the election, but the law is unclear about
making a switch after that point.
(yeah, pretty unclear)
Posted by: lorien1973 at October 30, 2008 09:05 PM (ddGv/)
4 I just posted this in the earlier Ohio thread, but I know morons have short attention spans, so I'm posting it here, too.
I tried to send this to Ace earlier, but something gorked, so I'm sticking it here:
article in the Dayton Daily News today outlined the "great advances" of
the forces of Dear Leader in registering voters in Ohio. See here: http://tinyurl.com/65fkey
According to this, which is based on the Secretary of The Politburo Comrade Brunner
State Brunner's records, about one in five new registrations came out
of Cuyahoga County (Cleveland). That's 159,631 new registrations, for
a total in that county of 1,112,406 registered voters.
Ahem. Problem. According to the Census Bureau, http://tinyurl.com/5v29xe
you run the numbers on population from 2006, there are only about
966,000 residents of Cuyahoga County 18 years and older. (I will
disregard that Cuyahoga is losing more people than any other Metro
region in the country. About 1% per year. http://tinyurl.com/6knv3a
other words, there are about 146,000 more registered voters in Cuyahoga
County than there are eligible voters. That's 15% more. That's more
than Bush's 2004 margin.
Sleep well with that thought.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 30, 2008 09:08 PM (czHGu)
5 Brunner went on to say that living without the aid of medical equipment requires her to have a brain, but does not require her to actually use it.
Posted by: freakzilla at October 30, 2008 09:10 PM (Yy4/x)
6 I hope this smelly gash ends up destroyed but it rarely happens with Donk operatives so I'm not getting my hopes up.
Posted by: Captain Hate at October 30, 2008 09:14 PM (m2sQh)
7 Karyn Gillette---
The import of Moncrief’s testimony is that Obama’s campaign was sharing its most updated donor information with ACORN at the crucial pre-primary time. How much of that information was used by ACORN to gain donations then used to propel Obama’s successes in the winter and spring primaries?
Heidelbaugh went on to explain that the key ACORN witness disappeared during the hearing after Moncrief’s testimony. She said, “The key piece of this, before we started the hearing, ACORN’s attorney, Catherine Simpson, again before we started the hearing, said one of her witnesses was going to be Karyn Gillette, Anita’s supervisor. After Anita said on the stand that Obama’s campaign contacted Karyn Gillette -- Karyn Gillette was gone. She wasn’t in the courtroom. She wasn’t put up on the stand. Why? Because I would have asked her and she would have been under oath and she would have had to answer.”
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at October 30, 2008 09:14 PM (5z1bn)
8 Hmm...this is interesting:
An investigation into ACORN's alleged fraudulent election activity
revealed on Wednesday that one of its national directors, Karyn
Gillette, collaborated with the Obama campaign to raise funds for the
group's voter registration efforts.Gillette is identified on Jennifer Brunner's 2006 campaign website as a consultant to Brunner, and a blog entry
filed by Brunner's husband Rick adds that "our candidate had gone
earlier in the day to have some meetings and work out of Karyn
Gillette's office." Rick Brunner also describes Gillette as "very
helpful to the campaign."
Posted by: Bilby at October 30, 2008 09:15 PM (8iDn7)
9 It just shocks the conscience.
Posted by: SarahW at October 30, 2008 09:16 PM (7sl9X)
10 Things like this, too many of them, has in the past allowed a Canadian supervisor I had to mock American elections. Mock them with validitity. A Canadian. This is intolerable. Except for being pretty completely tolerated.
Posted by: exception at October 30, 2008 09:17 PM (o5wq5)
11 Herr Morgenholz
I think we can almost guarantee that will be a pattern in every contested state in the Union. Nov.4th could turn out to be the longest night in history.
Posted by: adamthemad at October 30, 2008 09:18 PM (kIjlp)
12 Keep in mind the justice depart said today that they will not investigate voter fraud in Ohio
Posted by: William Amos at October 30, 2008 09:18 PM (zucz3)
13 Why isn't there a Patrick Fitzgerald-type of Special U.S. attorney investigating ACORN?
The Democrats, when they were in the minority, had no trouble pushing the Republicans and Bush into a full-fledged federal investigation of the Plame non-scandal. What about ACORN?
Posted by: Bart at October 30, 2008 09:19 PM (Imk8E)
14 I was loving this article, right up until the point when I saw that the Ohio Republican leader is named DeWine. Wasn't it a DeWine who was among the gang of "moderates" who fucked up the party in Ohio in the first place, and put us in danger of losing the state?
Posted by: Ted K. at October 30, 2008 09:19 PM (yCmN/)
15 said one of her witnesses was going to be Karyn Gillette, Anita’s supervisor. After Anita said on the stand that Obama’s campaign contacted Karyn Gillette -- Karyn Gillette was gone.
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at October 30, 2008 09:19 PM (5z1bn)
16 SEAN HANNITY JUST ANNOUNCED THAT WM AYRES DEDICATED HIS BOOK IN PART TO SIRHAN SIRHAN.
HOW WILL THAT GO DOWN WITH THE KENNEDYS?
Posted by: bitter, clinging Pennsylvanian at October 30, 2008 09:20 PM (bd68Z)
17 I was loving this article, right up until the point when I saw that the Ohio Republican leader is named DeWine. Wasn't it a DeWine who was among the gang of "moderates" who fucked up the party in Ohio in the first place, and put us in danger of losing the state?
Kevin Dewine is the person in the story. Mike Dewine was a former Senator who lost in 2006.
Posted by: William Amos at October 30, 2008 09:20 PM (zucz3)
18 Ohioans, or whatever you call yourselves, (Buckeyes? Cornholers?),
how is this playing in your local news?
Posted by: Bart at October 30, 2008 09:20 PM (Imk8E)
19 "It just shocks the conscience."
Posted by: SarahW at October 30, 2008 09:16 PM (7sl9X)
I'm sorry, dear, "shocks the what," now, sweetie? The con-science? What's that?
Posted by: Jennifer Brunner at October 30, 2008 09:21 PM (xFNQx)
20 Fred Thompson says ACORN is stealing this election
Posted by: William Amos at October 30, 2008 09:22 PM (zucz3)
21 ace I sure hope that you help lead the charge to get her ass thrown out whenever she is up for re-election.
Posted by: David at October 30, 2008 09:22 PM (HAdov)
22 For even more insight into Gillette, ACORN, New Party, etc., read the comments on this this thread from a smart militray blog.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 30, 2008 09:22 PM (VW9/y)
23 Elementary School Class Elections have more integrity than Ohio. Jeez. Can someone in a position of authority in this mother fucking country actually do their fucking job and enforce the god damn laws???? What the fuck does it take to investigate and stop stupid shit from happening?
Posted by: CDR M at October 30, 2008 09:23 PM (TJoU6)
24 And this is how it starts - once you have a dictator in power, they will never leave because 1) all government staff in any position of power will be their groupies 2) new laws will be introduced to take aawy any vestige of power from the people 3) all future elections will be rigged for the ruling party. That is Barry's plan and he thinks he can get away with it but most of the American people are not stupid, hence the uptick in gun sales because some of us are not going to put up with this.
Posted by: IC at October 30, 2008 09:23 PM (P32hP)
25 Department of Justice "We will not force Brunner to check those 200000 names
Posted by: William Amos at October 30, 2008 09:24 PM (zucz3)
Posted by: Bart at October 30, 2008 09:20 PM (Imk8E)
It's not. They're all in the tank, of course. And the cornhole crack (so to speak), is an insult to our cultural heritage.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 30, 2008 09:24 PM (czHGu)
27 Sorry, did I sound too belligerant in my #24 posting? I'm just really, really angry.
Posted by: IC at October 30, 2008 09:26 PM (P32hP)
Riverdaughter, a PUMA site loves you. Even though you are a right winger( her words). Anybody else weirding out at how they enjoy blogging with the PUMA's?
The article about Credit cards is the topic.
Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 30, 2008 09:26 PM (e2mBS)
29 Paging Karyn Gillette...
Posted by: freakzilla at October 30, 2008 09:26 PM (Yy4/x)
30 Things like this, too many of them, has in the past allowed a Canadian supervisor I had to mock American elections. Mock them with validitity. A Canadian. This is intolerable.
Well Canadian smugness does go to 11, but it's still a sad state of affairs.
Posted by: Mætenloch at October 30, 2008 09:26 PM (g9AO/)
31 #28 - hillbuzz and texas darlin are great too..
Posted by: IC at October 30, 2008 09:27 PM (P32hP)
32 Ohioans, or whatever you call yourselves, (Buckeyes? Cornholers?), how is this playing in your local news?
Uhhh...it's not. It's getting play in the local newspaper, but the local news stations? Nothing in depth. No investigative pieces. Basically, just a quick VO, then on to a story about leash laws.
Posted by: Warden at October 30, 2008 09:29 PM (YRzP3)
33 Jeebus. I have got to move out of this state.
Still, like #11, I think this will be a problem in many states. I think part of the problem with a county having more registered voters than eligible voters may stem from the fact that people register, then move, or die. How often are records updated? Does anyone know? If I move next year, won't Ohio still show me as a registered voter? If I register in, say Alaska, after I move out of this God-forsaken state, is there any communication between Alaska and Ohio to void my registration in Ohio?
Perhapsvoter registration and record maintenanceis one of the few things that needs to be federalized.
Posted by: April at October 30, 2008 09:29 PM (soybg)
34 A package on dog leash laws. AVO on Brunner.
Posted by: Warden at October 30, 2008 09:30 PM (YRzP3)
35 I hope to God that the GOP has lawyers ready to fight this thing if Obama steals it.
I think we're ahead with legitimate voters. I've been saying for more than a month that I'm betting on a win. I even tried to get Seattle Slough to put $100 on it.
But what's going on here in Ohio is scarey.
Posted by: Warden at October 30, 2008 09:32 PM (YRzP3)
Posted by: Mr Wu at October 30, 2008 09:33 PM (PD1tk)
37 Jeebus. I have got to move out of this state.
It's too late. It's spreading everywhere. I went to the Patriots game this past weekend and there in the parking lot before the game I saw not 1, not 2 but 3 seperate games of cornhole.
We are doomed.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 30, 2008 09:33 PM (VW9/y)
38 Perhapsvoter registration and record maintenanceis one of the few things that needs to be federalized.
Well, that and 401(k) plans.
Posted by: Bawney Fwank at October 30, 2008 09:33 PM (czHGu)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 30, 2008 09:33 PM (VW9/y)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 30, 2008 09:35 PM (czHGu)
40 A few weeks ago we were speculating as to how ACORN was going to steal the election. Looks like I was right -- they're going to use all those fraudulent registrations to back up why there were X amount of voters in certain precincts.
In other words, the results won't be challenge-able on the grounds of 'irregularities' when the number of votes cast do not exceed the number of registered voters.
But Bart, what about all those funny fake names such as Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck? Good question. Very few of those names will be used to vote, if any. THE POINT is that Mickey Mouse Friends helped pad the registered vote totals.
Obama is going to get a shitload of fraudulent votes, but he can't get, say 100K votes in a city with only 85K registered voters. So now some cities are going to have, say, an extra 5K registered voters due to ACORN's fraud. But there will be only a portion of actual fraudlent votes cast for Obama. Even if it's only a few thousand in a couple of dozen precincts across Ohio, it will swing the state to Obama's column.
Posted by: Bart at October 30, 2008 09:35 PM (Imk8E)
41 I just don't get why voter fraud is a partisan issue.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at October 30, 2008 09:38 PM (8CGjC)
42 Reminds me of Torricelli in 2002 (or whenever). New Jersey election law allows political parties to change candidates
51 days or more before the election, but the law is unclear about
making a switch after that point.
And then here in TX the dems said that a GOP candidate couldn't be added to the ballot after Delay was pressured out, it was just too close to the election, so the GOP had to run as a write-in and of course the dem won. But he's on his way out this year...
Posted by: brak at October 30, 2008 09:39 PM (sKRU0)
one of the PUMA sites backs this up with what happened in the primary in Mississippi:
Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 30, 2008 09:40 PM (e2mBS)
"Even if it's only a few thousand in a couple of dozen precincts across Ohio, it will swing the state to Obama's column."
And this is what Barry was planning as community organizer.
These assholes have been rigging inner city elections for years, now they have the audacity to do it on a bigger scale.
And all because they have a clean articulate black dude who is immune to criticism because he is black, or half white, or whatever.
Posted by: Senator Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller at October 30, 2008 09:40 PM (vFeQi)
45 When all those fraudulent registrants don't show up to vote, they can scream 'voter suppression'.
Posted by: brak at October 30, 2008 09:40 PM (sKRU0)
46 What I don't get is why local Republicans aren't screaming bloody murder about this.
I've called their offices and can't get an answer. I always get some drone who says stuff like, "We're looking into that. I'll pass on your concerns." That or I get voice mail.
One woman (this was admittedly a few weeks ago) didn't seem to know what the hell I was talking about.
Posted by: Warden at October 30, 2008 09:41 PM (YRzP3)
47 goptrust.com is running ads in swing states (good ads) regarding Obama and that scumbag Reverand Wright. I just donated you may want to check it out.
Posted by: robtr at October 30, 2008 09:41 PM (C6ME0)
48 Anyone catch Hannity......Tito the Builder/contractor just pwned Alan Colmes. His spread the wealth argument should be made into a campaign ad. He was fantastic.
Posted by: dixiegal at October 30, 2008 09:41 PM (jrxE7)
49 I'm not sure if McCain will fight if he loses inOhio, he probably wont want to do a re-count. I hope he would but I'm just not sure. Anyone have thoughts on that?
Posted by: spypeach at October 30, 2008 09:42 PM (QwWKI)
50 The Michigan AG charged two people in Grand Rapids with voter registration fraud today. They worked for the Community Voter's Project.
Posted by: slatz at October 30, 2008 09:43 PM (5jbc9)
51 It's painfully obvious that the American system is dying of cancer.
We have reams of laws designed to protect our system that are not enforced, and those who want to cheat know that this is the case.
I pray that McCain wins, and that actual, real reform means bloodying a few figurative noses.
Posted by: Stinky Esposito at October 30, 2008 09:44 PM (MMC8r)
52 As someone on the ground here in Ohio, it'll take more than 200,000 votes to swing this state to Obama and I think the higher ups in Columbus know this. This is why they have been doing so much crap recently that is blatantly illegal and blatantly inviting fraud. I have no idea where some of these polls are getting anywhere from a 3 to 8 point lead for Obama. Even with the fraud, I don't see Obama winning Ohio. Don't get me wrong, this is ridiculous and infuriating, but all this will do is keep Obama from being absolutely embarrassed here.
Posted by: A.J. at October 30, 2008 09:44 PM (fC7B3)
53 yeah, locus, that's the ticket.
During the primaries I was the only one on this blog questioning the huge Dem turnouts. I mean the vote totals were astronomical; it dwarfed the Republican turnout.
Commenters here dismissed me and told me that it was simply due to a lack of enthusiasm for Republicans and a lot of enthusiasm for Democrats.
But, sheeeeeeeeeee-it, when one Dem candidate gets more votes in a state primary than all of the Republican candidates combined there is something amiss.
Posted by: Bart at October 30, 2008 09:47 PM (Imk8E)
just donated to get those videos on air.
Posted by: politicalmuse at October 30, 2008 09:48 PM (ShJoD)
55 this shit pisses.me.off.
standing in long lines with your shoes off to get to your flight?
wanna know why?
because somebody took advantage of our free and open society to commit a grisly act of terrorism...and consequently stole a part our country's freedom.
standing in line to apply for a lower paying job because you got laid off?
wanna know why?
because somebody took advantage of our free and open society to make risky loans to risky people which cause a bubble and a collapse...and consequently stole a part our country's
standing in line to get medical care from your state-run medical facility? to get a permit to break state maintained curfew? to get your state-approved food rations ? to pay homage to your local government official?
wanna know why?
because JENNIFER FUCKING BRUNNER and a cast of thousands of subversive quislings, took advantage of our free and open society to commit fraud, theft,perjury and (let's just fucking say it) TREASON to get their Marxist god-king elected ...and
consequently stole a part our country's
I hate. these. people.
Posted by: jadedinga at October 30, 2008 09:49 PM (LJnG/)
56 I just tried to go to the Cuyahoga County Bd of Erections site and it crashed my browser. One of you morons looking there with Internet Explorer while you have Tranny pR0n in another window or something?
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 30, 2008 09:49 PM (czHGu)
57 I just don't get why voter fraud is a partisan issue.
I'll take a shot at that one.
The Dems have been building a case for years, since 2000, that the Republican Party has been actively engaged in voter suppression and election theft. We have all heard it, the world has heard it. Diebold, the Supreme Court, irregularities in Ohio during the last election, hanging chads... the list is endless. They have created a climate where the public at large who doesn't much pay attention to this crap except on a surface level believes that the Republican Party has actively been defrauding minorities, the poor, all Dem constituencies for years. It's a given for many if not most of the people in the center and left. The Dem activists did this on purpose. Astorturfing.
When you factor in that the MSM barely touches this issue, in the environment the Dems have created who is going to listen to Republicans yelling about voter fraud? Hell, even the Republican leadership is ignoring this for the most part. It sounds like a crazy Dem conspiracy theory.
It just happens to be true and proveable.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 30, 2008 09:49 PM (VW9/y)
58 Man. I'm gonna ride this Obama dildo straight into wingnut hell, and I don't care how bloody my ass is when I get there.
Posted by: erg at October 30, 2008 09:51 PM (6/ufm)
59 #56 Amen. My friends have disowned me I'm so pissed off all the time at all the sh*t going on, and no one seems to give a damn. The contribution fraud alone should be covered 24/7 on all the outlets. Why hasn't Drudge made it a big headline?
Posted by: dixiegal at October 30, 2008 09:52 PM (jrxE7)
60 If it makes you feel any better, I think one of the reasons for the skewed polls is that the dem registrations and primary behavior were, um, interesting, especially in Ohio. My brother voted for Capt. Bullshit in the primary. If you knew my brother, you'd know how funny that is. Hundreds of thousands did it "across the fruited plain".
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 30, 2008 09:55 PM (czHGu)
61 Just you wait!!! Some day I'll be famous and show you all!!!!11ONE!
Posted by: erg at October 30, 2008 09:55 PM (6/ufm)
62 Vote fraud needs to be a capital crime.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 30, 2008 09:55 PM (OqXyp)
63 and also Trollbusters rule!
Posted by: jadedinga at October 30, 2008 09:56 PM (LJnG/)
64 Re: 55, Alright politicalmuse. Spread the word those are good ads. goptrust.com
Posted by: robtr at October 30, 2008 09:56 PM (C6ME0)
Posted by: erg at October 30, 2008 09:51 PM (6/ufm)
The comedy stylings of our own sucker of cock, ladies and gentlemen and morons. He'll be here all week, I'm sure. Assbag.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 30, 2008 09:56 PM (czHGu)
66 [Nope. Not having that here.] -Trollbuster Agent 5
Posted by: Scrapiron at October 30, 2008 09:56 PM (8nB5X)
67 I hope to God that the GOP has lawyers ready to fight...
Well, you're praying to the right Dude, because without divine intervention,"GOP lawyers" probablywon't do shit. GOP lawyers don't like that word "fight" one bit, nosiree, not one little bit. Now that nice word "comity", yep, they likes'em a heapin' plateful of that.
Like that Fauntleroy Q. Flannelmouth fellow the other day, McCain's fucking "Counsel", who said, "Gosh, you know I think perhapsthe Obama campaign can't really be absolutely sure who is contributing to them." Git outta here! Really?
I would be willing to be John McCain for one hour, just to be able to say to my Secret Servicecorps"Look boys, give an old war-horse one final wish, and take that dildo-wannabe out back and shoot his fucking ass, and use real big, slow bullets that hurt a lot! Okay?!"
Posted by: sherlock at October 30, 2008 09:57 PM (ojW85)
don't argue the facts, slam the opposition with names and act superior. Last time that worked was the third grade. But please keep on educating us.
Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 30, 2008 09:58 PM (e2mBS)
69 IF it's proven that the Obama campaign purposely committed fraudulent donations, what are the repercussions? Is Axelrod responsible......anyone know the law? They are running out the clock on this one until the messiah writes his new commandments.
Posted by: dixiegal at October 30, 2008 09:58 PM (jrxE7)
70 Mop and Bucket needed on 67. Not cool.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 30, 2008 09:59 PM (czHGu)
71 It's just a goddamned fact, jack. The republicans DO NOT WANT POOR PEOPLE TO VOTE.
I think it's dead people, fictional characters and Obama frauds voting in states they don't reside in we're worried about, if they are poor so be it.
Posted by: robtr at October 30, 2008 10:00 PM (C6ME0)
72 Everything in this election in Ohio just gets weirder.:
Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 30, 2008 10:00 PM (e2mBS)
73 I just shoved a raisin in my pee hole!
Posted by: erg at October 30, 2008 10:01 PM (6/ufm)
74 Fuck off, Scrapiron. Go the fuck to Stormfront.
Posted by: stinky esposito at October 30, 2008 10:01 PM (MMC8r)
75 The only thing I like about Barack is his race! Well maybe some other things, but you get my point.
Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 30, 2008 10:02 PM (e2mBS)
76 Cute. It's like a Moby reunion in here.
Posted by: Xander Crews at October 30, 2008 10:03 PM (Aac1T)
77 I'm typing very fast and breathing so heavily as I respond!!!!!!!!
Posted by: erg at October 30, 2008 10:04 PM (6/ufm)
78 On the contrary, if 0bama wins, we can be sure he did so only by criminal acts performed on his behalf by his damnable cultists.
Posted by: leoncaruthers at October 30, 2008 10:04 PM (JSO4h)
79 ==> 0-:
Scrapiron and joe the plumber depicted above.
Posted by: Milesdei at October 30, 2008 10:05 PM (ACHxk)
80 It's easy toget frustrated and lash out, this is what they want. That way they can point andsay I told you so. Try not to fall into their trap. Hate their motives, hate the game, but don't let it divide you. That is their goal, not ours. and by them, and theirs I mean the Obama campaign.
Posted by: spypeach at October 30, 2008 10:06 PM (QwWKI)
81 We need to start hitting on the Department of Justice. These Obama crimminals and Obama himself need to be brought to justice.
Posted by: robtr at October 30, 2008 10:07 PM (C6ME0)
Oh, the stories you weave; a web of creation myths of the rightwing mind, jack.It's just a goddamned fact, jack. The republicans DO NOT WANT POOR PEOPLE TO VOTE. MORE THAN ONCE.
Posted by: JavaJoe at October 30, 2008 10:08 PM (Am6n/)
83 Believe me when I say, as a ex-pat buckeye this breaks my heart. Most Ohioans are decent midwestern people. I hate that the rot from Chicago and That State Up North (read Detroit) has spread south. But worry not, this is in store for every swing state this election.
Posted by: Alex at October 30, 2008 10:09 PM (4siCm)
84 ScrapironYou are fucking man, my man!Speak the truth!
Take your man with you.
Posted by: JavaJoe at October 30, 2008 10:10 PM (Am6n/)
I know what you mean,I swear if I get through this election without an ulcer or a divorce I will be happy.2
I hope that if McCain pulls this out, that he ditches this "collegial even tempered" persona and becomes again the vengeful , grudge-bearing bastard McCain that defied his Hanoi captors .
I wanna see the McCain Justice Department goon a voter fraud crusade led by a latter day Eliott Ness , kicking down doors and yanking asses out of their cushy offices.
I want Jennifer Brunner and Helen Jones-Kelley-Commie-Bitch-whatever to share a cell.
Posted by: jadedinga at October 30, 2008 10:11 PM (LJnG/)
86 IF it's proven that the Obama campaign purposely committed fraudulent donations, what are the repercussions? Is Axelrod responsible......anyone know the law? They are running out the clock on this one until the messiah writes his new commandments.
I think people are wasting their time running after Axelrod and Obama. This is above their pay grade.
Please read this link. This stuff has been building for years. Obama is just the pawn.
If you don't buy that, read this one. These guys called this shit 2 years ago and they were spot on.
And this is the guy who built the organization. Listen to how his views about the diminishment of the USA after this economic crisis and how we should talk with Hamas and Iran dovetail with Obama's.
Soros has been fucking with governments around the world for years. From crashing the pound in the UK, to the Czech Republic, to Georgia, to the Balkans and beyond. This is the guy using his billons to now manipulate our elections.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 30, 2008 10:12 PM (VW9/y)
87 @67 @75 Find another blog for that race-baiting shit. I grew up in NYC and was mugged by black people twice.
I also know at least 5 black people I would trust to raise my son. It's not about the race, it's about the person.
Posted by: Tiny Smeagle at October 30, 2008 10:13 PM (1V2sa)
88 blah blah blah I'm a Marxist sissy-boy who doesn't have a job and would get his ass beat if he mouthed of to people like this in real life.
Posted by: erg at October 30, 2008 10:14 PM (6/ufm)
89 It's just a goddamned fact, jack. The republicans DO NOT WANT POOR PEOPLE TO VOTE.
One thing about trolls: They never can tell the difference between fact and opinion. Maybe it's poor education or maybe they're just dumbfucks. Or both.
Posted by: Captain Hate at October 30, 2008 10:15 PM (m2sQh)
90 PLEASE get this video and get this posted! Tonight on Hannity "Tito the Builder" delivered one of the clearest and most convincing arguments against Obama that I've ever heard. As icing on the cake, he's Latino, and we need to show that fine group the truth! Grab this one!!!
Also, Hannity just broke that Ayers dedicated his BOOK to RFK ASSASSIN!!!!
Posted by: watchdog at October 30, 2008 10:16 PM (yCbBv)
the man's name your borrowing? meaningful
the name belongs to a MAN who fucking PWNED your wanna be god-king on national TV.
I enjoy that memory every time "joe the plumber" posts. The word diarrhea above the name?
Posted by: jadedinga at October 30, 2008 10:18 PM (LJnG/)
92 You're up against criminals. Smashing. But not surprising.
"Hannity just broke that Ayers dedicated his BOOK to RFK ASSASSIN!!!!"
No f'n way. Which book? The one Obama blurbed?
Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 10:18 PM (hawOV)
93 I going to ask a dumb question that the MSM should be asking. If Palestra, which is a conservative college media group, could find this much, how much is really going on?
Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 30, 2008 10:18 PM (e2mBS)
94 Let me start by apologizing to our Ohioians here.... but what in heavenzs name is everyone there thinking ? Yeah I know it is spreadingeverywhere and I admittedly am a basically moral person...but geesh! I know I haven't listened to all Rev.Wright's or Pflueger's tapes but other than Satanis, is there a religion anywhere that encourages its members to steal lie cheat be dishonest? Does anyone think that backing a dishonest system gains you something good? Even those affected by the Mafia understand the Capo wins and anyone else ultimately loses! Why would average citizens be proud of knowing the world sees this level of dishonesty .... B claims he wants US standing to be one of respect again .... don't average citizens know the world sees this corruption? We are being made the brunt of derision in the world .... our MSM fails to report but the overseas media are not! I am ashamed for all of us...... I undertand that crooks take but they NEVER give anything back. What we hand over willingly to crooks is certainly never going to bless us iny shape or manner?
Posted by: ItalianMama at October 30, 2008 10:20 PM (sCDCd)
95 Yes this information NEEDS to break on Hannity tomorrow night PLEASE get this out!
Democrats are assholes and I hate they are stealing our votes with fraudelent votes.....If by chance Obama wins with Ohio I hope to hell McCain does not give in and FIGHTS it all the way to the Supreme Court.....lets give these leftist freaks a little bit of their own medicine.
Oh by the way McCain/Palin will win and big and it won't freaking matter!
Posted by: Jaded at October 30, 2008 10:20 PM (WdD3J)
96 Weddings and funerals... change that.. only funerals.. only then will I step foot in Ohio again
Posted by: buckeyeinflorida at October 30, 2008 10:20 PM (Bd5hG)
97 Do you know what I call my rectum? "The Scabbard."
Do you know what's tattooed on my ass? "Enter Here."
Posted by: erg at October 30, 2008 10:20 PM (ACHxk)
again Obama PWNED on national TV.
that was so great!
Posted by: jadedinga at October 30, 2008 10:22 PM (LJnG/)
99 Joe the plumber, get all those cocks out of your mouth. You know you are not supposed to have that many cocks in your mouth!
Posted by: nikkolai at October 30, 2008 10:25 PM (G8d+5)
100 This stuff in Ohio is so over the top that I start wondering if Brunner might be so blatant and in-your-face purposely as part of the plan to suppress Rep vote, in addition to supporting fraudulent votes for Obama.
In 2004 the Dems decided that they were not going to loose Ohio again and have been working at every level to guarantee it. Are you Ohioans still confident that with an average 6% plus for Obama in state polls and this massive fraud. it can still be kept in the red column? I can only see it if the republican turnout is much larger than the democrat-zombie-fictitionalcharacter-inanimateobject turnout.
Anyway people from out of state can help other than McCains 72hr program?
Posted by: don_erico at October 30, 2008 10:26 PM (sDDDA)
101 "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
A civilian national security force that's as powerful and strong and well funded as our military. If that doesn't scare the fuck out of you you aren't paying attention.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 30, 2008 10:27 PM (VW9/y)
102 I'm sorry I'm acting this way. Dad didn't show me approval. Or the workings of a vagina.
Posted by: erg at October 30, 2008 10:28 PM (6/ufm)
103 #88, Thats going to give me nightmares....I really haven't researched Soros...just thought of him as a crazy old Uncle with gazillions of $. Now I'll think of him as the bogeyman. I just pray the polls have been way oversampled and McCain pulls out a November surprise.
Posted by: dixiegal at October 30, 2008 10:30 PM (jrxE7)
104 don_erico, read my previous post (#53). Seeing what's going on here, I really can't see Obama winning with or without the fraud. While ridiculously illegal and infuriating, the only thing the fraud will do is allow Obama's loss to look somewhat respectable. Otherwise, Ohio would be an ridiculously embarrassing loss for Obama.
Posted by: A.J. at October 30, 2008 10:38 PM (fC7B3)
105 Let me start by apologizing to our Ohioians here.... but what in heavenzs name is everyone there thinking ?
The same thing I always think: That there's no conceivable power that could keep me from voting on Tuesday despite all the chicanery the cocksuckers are doing to demoralize me. I'm not originally from Ahia but I've spent more than half my life here and the people of the state are generally good and hard working. They've allowed, however, a system of state and local governments to grow to the point where it's creating such an overload of costs to do business in the state that employers have left in droves. Plus the cities of Cleveland, Youngstown and Toledo (there might be more but I can personally testify to the corruption present in these) have become cesspools of graft and are economically stagnant. The people in the rural areas are generally more industrious but they've been worn down by the oppressive governmental overheads. But they came through like champions by giving a big "fuck you" to a group of snotty Brits that some garbage fishwrap coordinated sending letters urging them to vote for Kerry in 2004, as if they were some illiterate hicks waiting for instructions from their overlords. Whenever some ignorant whore like Brunner gets me pissed off, I think about those people to get my blood pressure down.
Posted by: Captain Hate at October 30, 2008 10:40 PM (m2sQh)
106 Thats going to give me nightmares
Wanna not get any sleep at all? Then google Soros and the Rose Revolution.
Democracies can not survive assaults from billions of dollars and a compliant press.
Do a little reading on Soros and his theory of Reflexivity. He has used it to become a billionare and the 80th richest man in the world. Simply put, it is market manipulation by controlling the message or what liberal blogs call the meme. In other words, astroturfing.
The same principle can be applied to elections. And it is.
You guys really need to understand what the hell is happening to you.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 30, 2008 10:45 PM (VW9/y)
107 MUST WATCH GUYS AND GALS!
Hannity just had Tito and it was STUNNING
Posted by: watchdog at October 30, 2008 10:46 PM (yCbBv)
108 "lilting comically toward fascism." On this thread of all places you accuse republicans of heading toward fascism.
Damn, erg you're crazier than a shithouse rat.
Posted by: aubrey at October 30, 2008 10:46 PM (joS+d)
109 If it would crash your system to actually use your system, you ain’t got a system, Sister.
Whatcha got there is a rope-handled shovel.
Posted by: Faye Kinnitt at October 30, 2008 10:48 PM (l1oyw)
110 A.J.....Ohio would be an ridiculously embarrassing loss for Obama.
Thanks, I am really looking forward to that. McCain pulling off a win across the country will provide the biggest entertainment we have seen in our lifetimes, courtesy of the MSM and the libs. I will probably immediately open a counseling practice, or invest in one (as well as sinking all my savings into prozac stock)
Posted by: don_erico at October 30, 2008 10:50 PM (sDDDA)
111 You guys really need to understand what the hell is happening to you.
I'm starting to. It's like shouting in a wind tunnel. No one's listening, no one gives a damn.I feel like I'm entering the twilight zone and my friends seriously are starting to think I'm a conspiracy freak and there's something wrong with me.I knew Soros was a mofo, but I honestly haven't done my research on him.
Joe the Plumber/Tito 2012 Let the Revolution begin.
Posted by: dixiegal at October 30, 2008 10:51 PM (jrxE7)
112 The whole concept of 'poor people' not realizing they can vote .... every LEGAL immigrant understands ...they get educated in citizenship classes..... and those born here? Pay attention in school and they would know it too! Instead of gang fights and spending time doing nything but schoolwork, no wonder our kids come out of school uneducated ... unable to read basics let alone not have a clue about politics. My husband is an immigrant...we re not wealthy and fell thru lots of cracks but my sons know to vote! Now I have 3 who are police in training/ fighter fighter in training out of the 4 .. the other is in IT.. he wants to keep internet ad free speech alive.
Posted by: ItalianMama at October 30, 2008 10:52 PM (sCDCd)
113 As someone with a generally positive outlook on life , there is a silver lining to the Soros cloud. The scumbag is about 130 yrs. old and wont be around to torment us much longer .
See, the glass really is half full.
Posted by: aubrey at October 30, 2008 10:53 PM (joS+d)
114 Dihimicrats have no honor.
They. Are. Not. Americans.
They. Are. Red-diaper socialists (=communists).
Our only hope is that the younger generation will come to their senses. I know, I know - hard to contemplate w/ the libs in charge of the MSM most institutions of learning (high-school through university; and now even the elementary schools)
....But I can dream!
Posted by: TennDon at October 30, 2008 11:03 PM (TTjg8)
115 Brunner: Federal Law Requires Me To Have a System for Double-Checking Registrations in Place, But Does Not Actually Require Me to ... Use That System
Brunner only need have her biologic SYSTEM go static as her registration system to understand that she is, uhhh, not a system anymore.
If Jack Kevorkian is still around I am sure he would be more than glad to demonstrate in court.
Posted by: Drive By Druid at October 30, 2008 11:05 PM (p9EDF)
116 Ring... my youngst is a contrarian ....sigh...I finally won a polical/religious war yesterday ! Told him I remembered being 22 and in college studying everything 'philosophically' to understand the world too. So nothing he says in arguments has shock value because I was there once too ... the difference is I am completing another degree and I study and research and come to places like Ace to continue the journey... and I think for myself... not accepting pablum from others.
Posted by: ItalianMama at October 30, 2008 11:11 PM (sCDCd)
117 The scumbag is about 130 yrs. old and wont be around to torment us much longer .
Yep, he's old. His kids aren't.
Don't count on his influence going away until it is made to go away.
Anyways, his claim was this...Acorn, once they have a voter registration filled out, are obliged by law to send it in regardless of what it says. True, or False? I have read about them having to try and verify the name and address 3 times before giving up, but are they then forced to send it in? I mean Joe Crotch living 123 Your Underpants Lane is never going to be verified, and is obviously false, do they have to send it in?
Yea, he's right. But not for the reason he thinks.
There are two things going on with these ACORN registration drives. One is to get a butt load of new voters who will be guaranteed Dem voters. But the second and almost as important is to overload local election boards with fraudulent registrations. They want to create chaos and crisis in elections across the country so they can scream voter suppression and intimidation, just as they are. Watch how many Dem poll watchers show up in swing precincts this election.
google cloward piven.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 30, 2008 11:15 PM (VW9/y)
118 So who is orchestrating all of this?
We have Soros, Cloward, Piven, Ayres, Dohrn, Frank, Reid, Pelosi, Axelrod, and God knows who else pulling Obama's strings - all following the Alinsky Handbook.
They've been working behind the scenes for years to create exactly this type of coup. They've been working for yours on training little Barry for exactly this type of role.
Who paid for his travels, who paid his tuition, who paid to get him in the Senate, who bought up all his books so he had more than $4.2 million on his 2007 tax return - about $261,000 from salaries and
the rest from book royalties. $4 million from book royalties in one year????
Like others in this thread have said - I was never a conspiracy nut but I'm becoming one now.
Posted by: Mary at October 31, 2008 12:01 AM (p3MCm)
119 So who is orchestrating all of this?
There is no one person. There are a lot of people. There is a meeting of the minds of ideology and money.
And, sorry PUMAs, Hillary Clinton is up to her ass in this along with many other people. Doesn't anyone remember that Hillary wrote her senior thesisat Wellesley on Alinsky? She turned down a job with him in Chicago to go to Yale. She is a fellow traveller. So is Soros, he's the money. He has as a stated goal the destruction of the US "imperialist" gov't.
Barry might be on a tape with Khalidi and Ayers? Fucking shocker! Three U of Chicago professors and butt buddy's playing nice. That's going to move exactly zero votes. And when he disappears another will take his place.
"We bought it, we own it, we're going to take it back."
Eli Pariser, MoveOn.org on the Democrat Party
Follow the money.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 31, 2008 01:49 AM (VW9/y)
120 "WTAM 1100 has a morning guy (Bob Frantz) that covers a lot of the ACORN stuff, plus the Helen Jones-Kelley issue.
aired an interview with some ACORN douche who was ferrying homeless
people to the polls for early voting and admitted she was asking them
to vote for Obama."
Important things mentioned on Bob Frantz's show this morning:
1) The Teamsters (surprise!) are busing people into OH, PA from surrounding states to make housecalls on union brothers, just to "make sure" that they're towing the union line and voting O.
2) A woman called in and said that she and her daughter witnessed handlers voting for a busload of MR/DD people who they'd brought in. The woman idiotically DIDN'T say anything, or take pictures (she said she was afraid of being prosecuted, no shit). Frantz got the Cuyahoga BOE on the phone, they wouldn't address the issue.
3) More frighteningly, it looks like Obots are targeting senile people at nursing homes, group homes and taking them to vote against their legal guardians' will. Complicit handlers at these types of places are to blame. We may see lawsuites over this, but don't expect it to go anywhere.
Above and beyond, the rats are doing EVERYTHING they can to push the meme that an isolated incident is not evidence of their systematic perpetuation of fraud.
Now, something else to note about the Soros plan for taking over the US that is being actualized: Last night at the hewitt/prager/medved/lieberman townhall, a fellow stood up and mentioned Obama's legislation, currently sitting in congress, to give an INDEXED percentage of GDP to foreign countries through the UN.
PUKE. This thing has been mentioned, but it's living under the news current. The thousands in the crowd collectively GASPED when this shit was mentioned last night.
The bill calls for almost a TRILLION in aid. Obama will sign it into law if he gets his grubby hands on that office. After all, he wrote the thing.
Posted by: kal at October 31, 2008 02:52 AM (ov1az)
Obama may have introduced it but do you think he actually wrote it?
In several remote countries, Mr. Soros's representatives share an office with UNDP staff. Sometimes residents have no idea where the Open Society Institute begins and the U.N. agency ends. The publicly financed agency and the private philanthropy, which is tied to a profitable hedge fund, are barely distinguishable.
Soros doesn't care about gov'ts. He cares about manipulating them to make money.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 31, 2008 09:48 AM (VW9/y)
122 Good luck locating Ms. Karyn Gillette. Have you seen the price of airfare to Martinique?
Ms. Gillette is long gone. She's out of the country. She was a paid consultant to retired Judge Jennifer Brunner in 2006 in her campaign for the Ohio Secretary of State's office.
Ms. Gillette is owner and operator of KG Associates, INC., a for profit political consulting firm that specializes in event planning and fundraising. She's worked for Brunner and Congressman Sherrod Brown, now Senator Sherrod Brown.
She's not running KG associates right now. Ha. Don't believe me. She is running it. She's just also running the Project Vote operation right now as National Development Director.
You suckers are casing her trail in Ohio and she's already moving her career to Washington. She'll make an appearance in DC sometime after January 22nd, 200, likely in a capacity as national field director of some "independent" group that will be advocating for support of the policies of Barack Obama.
If you find her, give us a call. We're still trying to settle our guys' campaign debts. I know. Campaigning for President in the Democratic party and lovechild shake, bake, and fake is an expensive affair. No pun intended.
Posted by: John Edwards' Law Partners at October 31, 2008 10:24 AM (AHrTm)
123 Ring - Yes, a private group that does voter registration is required to turn in all registrations. They are however not required to encouraqge voter fraud as ACORN regularly does. Haven't heard about it this cycle but in previous cycles there were documented cases of registration forms marked Republican found in the garbage near ACORN offices. When these weren't simply overlooked by the authorities ACORNs explanation was "Our idiot workers accidentally threw away some registrations. But only the Repug ones!"
Thought then that these guys were morons (and not the good kind). After all what does a good crosscut shredder cost? A lot less than a stolen election. Guess they learned that lesson. (Might be a interesting experiment if you ever see an ACORN volunteer to register as a fake Republican and see if the reg makes it through the process and onto the voter roles. Course be cautious because if you are detected you will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And if you do prove the fraud you can't expose it without admitting your own crime.)
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