The Least of These

"It's that fundamental belief — I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper — that makes this country work." - Barack Obama, July 27, 2004

Good thing he's not his aunt's keeper.

Or his half-brother's.

What's interesting about Obama's answer is that the term "brother's keeper" comes from the book of Genesis, and its use is actually defensive. Cain had just whacked his brother and when asked about it, his answer was "I know not. Am I my brother's keeper?" Cain was being snarky in an attempt to deflect attention away from the fact that he had just stashed his brother's body. It's not a biblical injunction to take positive action.

As Ed Morrissey points out at Hot Air, Obama did mention the biblical call to action on compassion later in the Saddleback forum:

“Americans’ greatest moral failure in my lifetime,” he said, “has been that we still don’t abide by that basic precept in Matthew that whatever you do for the least of my brothers, you do for me.”

In one sense, I agree with Ed's conclusions regarding the importance of this - it's really basically garden-variety hypocrisy on Obama's part given his willingness to accuse the rest of us of being uncharitable. (which, incidentally, is untrue)

What makes the story of Obama's aunt appalling to me is a quote that Bob Krumm found. It looks as though Obama's campaign may have found the least of his relatives and told them to zip it until after the election.

The media told us that when Obama visited his grandmother, it spoke well of his character. It seems fair to take the living conditions of his extended relatives as a similar glimpse into who this man is, and whether his personal actions match his lofty rhetoric.

Posted by: Slublog at 10:51 AM

Comments

1 I think it's lame to attack Obama for not financially supporting his aunt as Ed pointed out. His half brother is another story. It would have been nice of Obama to support his aunt, decent, but a lot of people don't support every extended family member they have. I'm sure that includes many here. It includes me.

OT and here's a recommendation to elect McCain that I didn't know what to make of when I started reading, but by the end I found I not only agreed with every word, I agreed with the tone and passion.

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 11:21 AM (hawOV)

2 The "content of his character" is coming through loud and clear.

Posted by: buddy in MD at October 30, 2008 11:22 AM (2CkdP)

3 Christoph,

Fine, one need not support all his extended family. But then for such a person to turn back and demand that the State forcibly take from hardworking taxpayers and redistribute to lazy bums? Yes, we are going to hold you to a higher standard.

Posted by: Tushar at October 30, 2008 11:24 AM (PTWes)

4 buddy, do you financially support all of your extended family members that aren't doing well? If they happen to be doing well, will you commit to supporting them should that change?

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 11:25 AM (hawOV)

5 Maybe I support my extended family and maybe I don't.

But I am certainly not compelling anyone else to do it for me.

Posted by: Natalie at October 30, 2008 11:25 AM (dCigj)

6 Hmmmmm.

The hell with Obama.

WTF is up with the Global Warming? It's bloody freezing here in New Jersey.

I want my goddamn Global Warming!

Posted by: memomachine at October 30, 2008 11:27 AM (f4Zt4)

7 Obama realizes that he can not be the source of comfort for his own family. That would be unfair to him. Remember what he said about not wanting to burden his daughter with a child if she got pregnant. He assumes his aunt would not want to burden him.

Why is it that Liberals preach to us about compassion with a straight face and all the while do little on their own to help the poor. I love giving my time and money to the less fortunate but am an evil conservative because I don't want the government to do it. The sad thing is, even if they are successful in their coup, we will have more people that will need our compassion.

Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 30, 2008 11:28 AM (e2mBS)

8 It's evident that Obama wants YOU to be his brother's keeper.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 30, 2008 11:28 AM (ud5dN)

9 "buddy, do you financially support all of your extended family members that aren't doing well? If they happen to be doing well, will you commit to supporting them should that change?"

Christoph, I will commit to supporting them to the best of my ability before I ask anyone else to do so.

And, yes, I have give substantial support to family and non-family alike over the years. I see the world as a world of abundance and not as a world of scarcity. There are two ways to live your life: the "way of give" or the "way of get." Choose wisely.

Posted by: buddy in MD at October 30, 2008 11:29 AM (2CkdP)

Don't take an attitude with God. You will lose.

And the hypocrisy is doubly ironic knowing that Obammy actually voted several times to leave babies to die if they live thru botched abortions. Try to kill them once, fail, and then leave them to die.

Is there anything more fundamentally barbaric?

Posted by: kevlarchick at October 30, 2008 11:30 AM (TNuqz)

11 He and his wife have totalled more than $250 $200 $150 thousand a year for a while now... So damn straight he should have done something.

But what do you expect, from the friend of a slum lord?

Posted by: someone at October 30, 2008 11:30 AM (zHoxL)

12 Interesting thing about the full article is when she says "I can't talk until after November 4th" Why?

Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 30, 2008 11:30 AM (e2mBS)

13 (Crap. Let me try again.)

He and his wife have totalled more than $250 $200 $150 thousand a year for a while now... So damn straight he should have done something.

But what do you expect, from the friend of a slum lord?

Posted by: someone at October 30, 2008 11:31 AM (zHoxL)

14

But Barry has such a nice smile, and God Bless 'im, he's clean and articulate.

Such a nice fellow, smells bad and stutters, but a nice fellow.

Posted by: Sen. Rev. Dr. E Buzz at October 30, 2008 11:31 AM (sf4Oe)

15 Tushar, I oppose Marxism definitely. And I admire individual charity. And I agree with the statement charity begins at home.

But philosophically, socialists and Marxists believe in government funding of poor people and therefore they do donate less to charity. But it's apples and oranges. I don't think not supporting extended families is a character issue, it's more of a philosophical one. A shitty philosophy, but just that.

On the other hand, if he did support every family member I'd consider that extraordinary, but because it is so rare. For both liberals and conservatives.

Slublog brought up, but I think understated somewhat, Ed's position, which seems to be in accordance with mine:

"Otherwise, though, this seems unremarkable to me. Judging from my e-mail, it’s a popular link this morning, but most of us have extended family in various economic situations. Applying the same mote-beam-eye standard, how many of us send money to those less fortunate among distant cousins, or even relatively close family? And does this really say anything germane about the vote we all will cast in five days — or will we be more rightly focused on policies and experience?"

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 11:31 AM (hawOV)

16 locus, that's what Slu was saying. One of his thugs must have zipped her up.

Posted by: someone at October 30, 2008 11:32 AM (zHoxL)

Charity is a good thing, but since when is it the responsibility of the state? Obama is willing to be generous and charitable with other people's money.

When Christ spoke of "that which you do for the least of my brothers," I don't think he was talking to the agents of government; i.e., Pilate or Herod. The state cannot be saved by Christ, only people can. People. Individuals. Persons. I don't think Christ will pour out salvific grace on the House of Representatives or the Great and General Court of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts just because they increase taxes.

Seems to me the parable of the unjust judge (Luke 18:1-9) is a more accurate insight into Christ's view of human government -- namely, that the best we can hope for from it is that it will corruptly serve whoever nags it.

Posted by: The Abbot at October 30, 2008 11:32 AM (ivbbD)

18 No, I don't support my entire family because I can't. Now, if I made as much money as the Obamas, I would certainly throw some money out to relatives that needed it.

Posted by: incognito at October 30, 2008 11:32 AM (Rpam5)

19 This is the Aunt that he connected with in Kenya. I guess I can't see his heart but if my aunt, who I felt I connected with, was hurting I would do something. But that is not the issue. It is the lefts tendency to believe what they believe about the poor is good enough. Be warmed and filled.

Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 30, 2008 11:35 AM (e2mBS)

20 Obama is such a tool. NoBama, NoWay

Posted by: BillyBob at October 30, 2008 11:36 AM (v9vTw)

21 "And, yes, I have give substantial support to family and non-family alike over the years. I see the world as a world of abundance and not as a world of scarcity."

Well, that's a good thing naturally.

And I agree with you about seeing the world as abundant rather than scarcity.

Too many people get caught up in poverty or middle class thinking, even on the right. Most people look at middle class as being a virtue whereas I see it as... well... middle. Wealth is a virtue if it's earned honesty. Just like decency is a virtue whatever someone's finances are, as they may shift and change in life.

I just think attacking your political opponents for not supporting their aunts is incredibly weak.

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 11:36 AM (hawOV)

22 Someone. yea, I did not follow the link. Good point Stu!

Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 30, 2008 11:37 AM (e2mBS)

23 Fine, one need not support all his extended family. But then for such a person to turn back and demand that the State forcibly take from hardworking taxpayers and redistribute to lazy bums?

It's like the Bible says, "Thou shall steal from Peter to pay Paul after sucking some of the cream off the top for thyself."

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 30, 2008 11:38 AM (DVVXZ)

24 "Now, if I made as much money as the Obamas, I would certainly throw some money out to relatives that needed it."

Are you kidding? That would cut into your arugula budget!

The point is, these guys should have AT LEAST lived the lifestyle they're now demanding of every other "rich" person in America. They didn't. In fact, they used their influence to shadily leverage their $ into an even fancier life (Rezko land deal)...

Posted by: someone at October 30, 2008 11:38 AM (zHoxL)

25 This video on No Quarter is pretty scary...that so many people are voting for Obama, when he hasn't done anything except run for office, is frightening.

http://tinyurl.com/5zs55w

Posted by: devilish at October 30, 2008 11:39 AM (5ui08)

26 Do as he says, not as he does. Democratic 'nuance'.

WE are responsible for their welfare. OUR money, not HIS.

Posted by: GarandFan at October 30, 2008 11:39 AM (eJ32B)

27 Christoph - what I find interesting in terms of his character is what Tigerhawk (at the EdKrumm link) found. Obama has made much of his extended family and the role they played in shaping him. Much of his campaign narrative is built upon his interesting life story and given his willingness to talk so freely about that family, one could make the assumption they are close.

His benign neglect of those same relatives he brags upon does not speak well of him, in my eyes.

Posted by: Slublog at October 30, 2008 11:39 AM (R8+nJ)

28 "No, I don't support my entire family because I can't. Now, if I made as much money as the Obamas, I would certainly throw some money out to relatives that needed it."

incognito, that is almost the definition of middle class thinking. I certainly don't mean that as an insult, but by way of encouragement. It is learning how to manage one's money, including regular if modest giving, savings, investing, a certain amount for play, that brings about more money... waiting until the money comes in until doing these things almost guarantees one will never be wealthy.

I reiterate -- I say this by way of positive encouragement. If you're interest, might I suggest a book I think you'd enjoy?

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 11:39 AM (hawOV)

29 As the good book says, Are you not my brother's keeper?

Posted by: barack hussein obama at October 30, 2008 11:39 AM (PD1tk)

30 Hmmmm.

"buddy, do you financially support all of your extended family members that aren't doing well? If they happen to be doing well, will you commit to supporting them should that change?"

*shrug* I don't, but then again my relatives are American and self-supporting anyways. On the other hand the currency conversions are 1USD = 80 Kenyan shillings. So it shouldn't be all that expensive to afford even a moderate income for his paternal grandmother.

And I'm not entirely certain that calling a grandmother "extended family" is all that correct. You are after all talking about a direct bloodline descent. It's not like you're discussing a 3rd cousin after all.

Posted by: memomachine at October 30, 2008 11:40 AM (f4Zt4)

31 OT - Charity aside, any more news on Iran wanting to send suicide bombers to the US? Is this what Biden was warning us about?

Posted by: IC at October 30, 2008 11:41 AM (jZNCU)

32 Christoph,

I agree with your basic point. Your point would be crystal clear to everyone here if they won the lottery. All of a sudden third cousins and such would be sending sob stories.

But he presents himself as a man above it all. A man who truly cares. A man who is only in government to help people like his aunt. Who he has not helped although he could.

Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 30, 2008 11:41 AM (e2mBS)

if he had followed the Chicago model, Obama would have sent some patronage his Aunt's way. I'm not saying he shouldn't help her, but with his tremendous political power, he should have gotten her some bennies. Not like the media would object if he engaged in patronage.

Since "spreading the wealth" has been the sine qua non of Obama's campaign, it's completely legitimate to bring it up.

But McCain should enter a positive, Presidential phase now.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 30, 2008 11:42 AM (n2eCn)

34 Christoph writes, "I just think attacking your political opponents for not supporting their aunts is incredibly weak."

We each have to decide for whom we will vote using our own criteria.

Recognizing what Sen. Obama has done or not done re: his less fortunate relatives is not an attack. He is who he is. I am just happy to find out a little more about that "is" before the election rather than after it.

YMMV.

Posted by: buddy in MD at October 30, 2008 11:42 AM (2CkdP)

35 I just think attacking your political opponents for not supporting their aunts is incredibly weak.

It's not that he doesn't support them Christoph. It's that he goes on and on about how it's "neighborly" to "spread the wealth" around.

By that he means my wealth and your wealth...not his wealth.

Don't you want a candidate who has the courage of his convictions? Don't you think Obama should demonstrate that first before he taps us to do it?

Or do we only rap Republicans on the knuckles for hypocrisy?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 30, 2008 11:44 AM (epqk/)

36 As William F. Buckley would have said, "spread your own goddam wealth."

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 30, 2008 11:44 AM (n2eCn)

37 Hmmm.

@ Christoph

1. Is his paternal grandmother, living in a hut in Kenya, a member of his "extended family"?

2. Obama made $4.5 million from one book in 2007. Surely some charity wouldn't kill him would it? Even for tax purposes such as creating a foundation?

Posted by: memomachine at October 30, 2008 11:45 AM (f4Zt4)

Ya’ll are all trying to make this too complicated. The liberal socialists do not give a T-damn about compassion for their fellow man. Neither do they care what it says in the bible, although there are quite a few liberal religious people.

What liberals like O’Bambi care about is implementing State control over everything, with them and their cronies in charge of everything. They decry the capitalist factory owner who “exploits” the labor of the downtrodden worker. But what they wish to replace it with is a State where the apparatchiks are in charge of everything from bread production to toilet paper allotment per household, and they exploit the everyday citizen for power.

When it is all over the average citizen is left mired in squalor and poverty, the leaders live in their dachas and shop in special stores. They are the new “elite” and live a lifestyle equivalent to what our current lower middle class lives now.

This is the legacy of socialism and communism, poverty and squalor, but they always cry “it just hasn’t been really tried yet”.

Posted by: Vic at October 30, 2008 11:46 AM (b1ysY)

39 Off topic for just a second:

The study found that ABC, NBC and CBS ran a total of 69 stories on Palin. Two were deemed positive, 37 negative and 30 neutral. None of the evening news shows ran a positive story about Palin.

Twenty-one stories portrayed Palin as unintelligent and unqualified, 14 characterized her as John McCain's attack dog and nine emphasized attacks on Palin by conservatives.

Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 30, 2008 11:47 AM (e2mBS)

40 If I'm my brother's keeper; why am I also the keeper to millions of people I don't even know?

Posted by: lorien1973 at October 30, 2008 11:47 AM (IhQuA)

41 Maybe his campaign could have bought her family $150,000.00 worth of new clothes. If HE does it, it's OK..............

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at October 30, 2008 11:48 AM (kKgTD)

42 Vic,

hush.

Posted by: Barrack at October 30, 2008 11:48 AM (e2mBS)

43 I support my extended family when I can. Of course, unlike Obama, I don't have the advantages of a gross income of nearly a million dollars, close ties with community organizations across the country, or belong to a huge church.

Nor have I written an autobiography using the stories of my relatives to demonstrate my own authenticity and my feelings toward the many evils of our society. I've also refrained from celebrating quotes about how "white folks greed runs a world in need", and I've never told my relatives to keep a low profile and avoid reporters so they don't embarass me in public.

And, oddly enough, I've never suggested that having the government take more money away from undeserving "rich" people and spread it around was the solution to any of these problems.

But aside from that, my situtation is exactly like Senator Obama's.

Posted by: Bryan C at October 30, 2008 11:50 AM (T3KlW)

44 I don't really know what to make of that quote, Slublog. It could be bad and probably is. It's a fair point.

The flipside, though, is she might have been contacted by the campaign (probably was), contacted them, or even (long shot) decided on her own not to say anything until after November 4th. Since she is a free person, that implies to me, poor or not, she must not want to do anything to jeapordize Obama's chances.

Unless you have more evidence that the Obama campaign strong-armed her into zipping it (other than asking her to and getting her agreement, which I consider to be fair game), then I'd prefer to attack Obama on any of the numerous serious flaws he has as a candidate... much as Ed Morrissey suggests.

I would support a family member whose political philosophy I agreed with even if they never helped me financially while I was broke. By the same token, I'd oppose a close family member if they were Marxist or pro-abortion up to and including campaigning against them. I kid you not.

So I accept that Ms. Onyango is doing as she freely chooses until someone shows otherwise.

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 11:51 AM (hawOV)

45 Bryan C, again, your charity and personal responsibility is to be commended. I just don't see this as a particularly useful political attack 5 days out.

His half-brother's predicament more damning, and his pro-infanticide, spread the wealth around Marxism, terrorist-associating (and mentoring) ways even more so.

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 11:53 AM (hawOV)

46 I just don't see this as a particularly useful political attack 5 days out.

On that you are 100% correct. It's not going to move votes.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 30, 2008 11:54 AM (epqk/)

47 Ok, fine. Then McCain deserves no attack for "owning" seven houses, when Cindy provides one of them for her elderly aunt to live in.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 30, 2008 11:56 AM (eiOZw)

Posted by: memomachine at October 30, 2008 11:45 AM (f4Zt4)

1. No, that's his direct family, but wasn't the topic of this post.
2. Yes, taking a look at his level of charitable giving is one thing, but whether he supports a particular aunt lame.

If I had 10 billion dollars, I wouldn't necessarily support every member of my extended family. This is just me, nothing to do with Barack Obama.

For example, and it may sound harsh, I would not support a member of my extended family who advocated abortion. I'd rather take that same money and save some innocent lives by donating it to a pro-life cause than use it to assist a monstrous person who happened to be an extended relative of mine.

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 11:58 AM (hawOV)

49 Please consider posting this video and passing it along, it’s amazing. It’s great at showing the distinction between MaCain and Obama in regards to the economy. Please pass this along to everyone you know. We have to get McCain elected… E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moTAI4VDIJw

“Some may try to tell us that this is the end of an era. But what they overlook is that in America, every day is a new beginning. For this is the land that has never become, but is always in the act of becoming.” Ronald Reagan

Posted by: Ernesto at October 30, 2008 12:01 PM (aqnCH)

50 whatever you do for the least of my brothers, you do for me.”

OMG Obama left the Baby Jesus to die in a closet!!!

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 30, 2008 12:03 PM (5aa4z)

51 Now that's a fair attack, Herr Morgenholz.

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 12:05 PM (hawOV)

52 Completely and utterly off topic, but...Massachusetts now in play?

http://tinyurl.com/55bzj3

Posted by: Chris at October 30, 2008 12:05 PM (SiJV8)

53 Remember the hundreds(?) of elderly who died of heatstroke in France a few years ago? Their families left them to go on summer holiday and they died.

This is the same thing with Obama. He wants to help the "people", a faceless mass or concept. He cares nothing about his own family beyond the immediate members, if that.

I'm beginning to believe that support for socialism, communism, far left liberalism is a pretty good marker for a high level of sociopathy.

The baseless belief in the goodness or rightness or greatness of self, the thin skinned extreme reaction when that belief is challenged, the lack of concern about the damage their policies cause to others(breaking eggs/omlets, etc.), the belief that othersplans, lives, concerns don't matter if it collides with their plans.

anyway, food for thought.

Posted by: rinseandspit at October 30, 2008 12:14 PM (ao5cQ)

54 Completely and utterly off topic, but...Massachusetts now in play?

Ummmm....no.

Remember, this was the ONLY state in the union to vote for George McGovern.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 30, 2008 12:15 PM (epqk/)

55 The aunt's living in public housing, yet she gave $260 to BO's campaign. I hate the whole "the government needs to pay my daily living expenses so I can spend my money on luxury stuff" attitude.

My pique is tempered by the realization that the donations are equally likely to be Soros' pre-paid MasterCards as her own money.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 30, 2008 12:18 PM (yG+tb)

56 Yeah, I know, Sean...I thought the joke came through with the wink, and the link made the point of the joke clear...sorry.

Posted by: Chris at October 30, 2008 12:19 PM (SiJV8)

57 "The aunt's living in public housing, yet she gave $260 to BO's campaign."

Do you have any reason to believe Barack Obama's aunt is anything but happy? And that she didn't enjoy giving that money to Barack Obama's campagin?

I do not support him in any way, but I really do remember something in the Bible about the poor woman donating and Jesus accepting it. All you've done is proven Barack Obama's aunt supports him. That's her privilege. If she doesn't want to say anything for fear it might damage his campaign, then that's her privilege too.

If you want to -- attack her for that. Hell, I'll attack her. She's supporting the pro-abortion, pro-infanticide candidate. That's despicable.

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 12:21 PM (hawOV)

58 "The aunt's living in public housing, yet she gave $260 to BO's campaign"

The aunt's living in public housing, NO ONE KNOWS HER IMMIGRATION STATUS, yet she gave $260 to the Marxiah's campaign.

Posted by: someone at October 30, 2008 12:21 PM (zHoxL)

59 Fucking hell, the Canadian Faux-Christian Concern Troll is filibustering this thread like he's Malor.

Posted by: someone at October 30, 2008 12:22 PM (zHoxL)

60 Hmmmm.

@ Christoph

1. His paternal grandmother is in precisely the same situation as his aunt and uncle. Used for photo-ops when convenient, ignored otherwise. As such she very neatly fits in this discussion and it's irrelevant that she wasn't included in this post.

2. "For example, and it may sound harsh, I would not support a member of my extended family who advocated abortion. I'd rather take that same money and save some innocent lives by donating it to a pro-life cause than use it to assist a monstrous person who happened to be an extended relative of mine."

Then again you're -not- stumping for President, quoting the Bible on issues of charity and family and being something of a major hypocrite. On the other hand Obama is.

Posted by: memomachine at October 30, 2008 12:22 PM (f4Zt4)

61 I had a feeling Joe Perry was a racist.

Posted by: pirate of the perineum at October 30, 2008 12:22 PM (rKSJ1)

62
OT -- Murtha Appeals to Move On for Help

"This is a real emergency—with just 6 days left," he writes. "People like Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are calling me a traitor and worse."

The whole letter is at the link. W00t!!!

Posted by: Tinian at October 30, 2008 12:22 PM (Ohodx)

Interesting that Obama uses the phrase "brother's keeper." It's worth noting, however, that the only time that phrase appears in the Bible is when Cain is lying to God trying to obfuscate about where Able is...your know, right after he'd murdered him.

Perhaps Obama should spend more time in the New Testament - specifically 2 Thessalonians 3:10-12.

Posted by: Rocketeer at October 30, 2008 12:22 PM (mUWtd)

64 Baracko? Are them little Downs babys that lives somehow, are they least?

Posted by: JohnTBissell at October 30, 2008 12:23 PM (iGVyk)

"Several southern California readers send word that there will be a protest at the L.A. Times building today at 10am Pacific/1pm Eastern over the suppressed Obama/Khalidi tape."

"For more information, please go to the website of the organization leading the protest effort -
www.freedommarch.org"

http://tinyurl.com/6yp4g9

Posted by: incredulous at October 30, 2008 12:23 PM (zplc6)

66 FYI - here's where his Aunt lives - The D-Street projects in Southie.

Welcome to West Broadway 81 Orton Marotta Way, South Boston Built in 1949, West Broadway sits on more than 20 acres of land. A state funded development, West Broadway’s 727 apartments range from one to six bedrooms. Many units have front and back yards and separate entrances. West Broadway is slated for extensive renovations and redevelopment of 244 apartments that are located on one corner of the site. The Condon Elementary School is adjacent to the property. Plans also call for a new LaBoure Community Center on the site. Rents are calculated at 32% of a resident’s income

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Posted by: TheBigOldDog at October 30, 2008 12:24 PM (0oAW0)

67
I do not support him in any way, but I really do remember something in the Bible about the poor woman donating and Jesus accepting it.

The parable is that a rich man came up and gave a bunch of money to the Temple, then the poor widow gave a few shekels. Jesus made the point that she is far more blessed, because she gave everything she had.

Captain Bullshit is not the Temple.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 30, 2008 12:24 PM (5aa4z)

68 Wlliam Ayres needs a keeper, hose down twice and feed at 2. School Groups welcome

Posted by: JohnTBissell at October 30, 2008 12:25 PM (iGVyk)

69 But Obama is helping his auntie, the community-organizer way. According to the Boston Globe, she lives in public (subsidized) housing, she has a "nurse" (almost certainly provided by some public or private charitable agency), and she now has a "police guard" due to her new-found fame.

If you read the Times article, she's made a "small stipend" working as "volunteer resident health advocate" for the Boston Housing Authority, and she's obviously not destitute, since she recently make a $260 campaign contribution to her favorite nephew who, as we all know, is desperately in need of funds.

And auntie also tells the Times, "“I have been coming to America ever since 1975. I always come and go.” I'm sure she hasn't been swimming back and forth...

And IIRC, uncle is believed to own a chain of stores in Boston, according to the Globe, but no one can locate him, or something.

Posted by: JBean at October 30, 2008 12:25 PM (hDIOT)

R&P, I was stationed in England during the summer of 2003 when Le Heat Wave Mal hit Europe (made me appreciate air conditioning). Thousands of deaths in France were attributed to the heat, and since the UK became fixated on global warming.

And I think you're on to the long-term effects of socialism. A mass sociopathy has fallen on British kids as there's a general disdain for any traditional family structures.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 30, 2008 12:26 PM (n2eCn)

Christoph, What color should I paint my bathroom? I only ask because you know all.

Posted by: Russell Ziskey at October 30, 2008 12:27 PM (LlaBi)

Posted by: Bryan C at October 30, 2008 11:50 AM (T3KlW)

excellent comment

Posted by: rinseandspit at October 30, 2008 12:14 PM (ao5cQ)

again

Posted by: funky chicken at October 30, 2008 12:28 PM (xyyHG)

73 memomachine, a couple points re: 1. Questions because I don't know the answer:

Do you know that Obama isn't assisting his grandmother? Does his grandmother want assistance?

Other than than, I don't have much to say. If I knew the grandmother was so poor as to be unhappy and unhealthy and Barack Obama said, "Tough," I'd think that is a real serious character problem.

As it is, I don't know enough about his family situation to know what the real deal is so I'm more concerned with him being a Marxist who announced plans to launch a (by deduction) $500,000,000.00 per annum civilian security agency with weapons and manpower to match the Pentagon.

Somehow that seems more relevant.

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 12:29 PM (hawOV)

74 TheBigOldDog:

here's where his Aunt lives

That looks a HELL of a lot better than Altgeld Gardens, the Far South Side shooting gallery that Obama didn't manage to improve much as Illinois state senator for the area. So, in one way, Barack did do something to improve his aunt's quality of life: he wasn't the one of the legislators representing her district. Otherwise, she'd probably be ducking gang-banger fire right now and watching the toilet explode.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at October 30, 2008 12:29 PM (kKgTD)

75 Suckers. Sharing the wealth is for thee, not me.

Posted by: Barak Obama at October 30, 2008 12:36 PM (OqXyp)

76 I can't believe me and my family have been paying his aunt's rent. It blows my mind. We are paying for a Kenyan when I know for certain there are 2nd and 3rd generation people born in Southie with no place to live who have been on lists for years to get into public housing. It burns my ass.

Posted by: TheBigOldDog at October 30, 2008 12:36 PM (0oAW0)

77 Great observations Slu - Limbaugh opened his show with your points.

Posted by: Big Bob at October 30, 2008 12:36 PM (vN6sY)

78
I'm sure director of the Massachusetts Department of Job and Family Services will conduct a thorough records search on Auntie Obama.

Because it's done regularly to anyone who "comes into the public light", y'know.

Posted by: Tinian at October 30, 2008 12:36 PM (Ohodx)

79 Great observations Slu - Limbaugh opened his show with your points.

Did he actually mention this blog?

Posted by: Slublog at October 30, 2008 12:38 PM (R8+nJ)

80
Did he actually mention this blog?

No. I've noticed that Rush has started stealing lots of stuff from bloggers without attribution.

Posted by: Tinian at October 30, 2008 12:41 PM (Ohodx)

81 It may well be, Tinian, and it could also be that his staff presents stuff to him and passes it off as their own, or Rush has similar reactions that a lot of conservatives have when he sees things.

Anyway, off topic, but important enough to appear at Patterico's, L.A. cop pseudonym "Jack Dunphy" has a post which uses a quote to make a point I've been trying to make for ages: Obama, for real, wants more than 8 years in office. I think those people who say, "Let Obama win and we'll get Palin to beat him in 2012," are foolish. I believe Obama is an incredibly dangerous man, and far stronger and shrewder than his critics give him credit for. I believe he has the potential to be a dictator.

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 12:46 PM (hawOV)

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 12:29 PM (hawOV)

you're willing to sponsor friendly chicken families to emigrate to Canada, right?

Posted by: funky chicken at October 30, 2008 12:46 PM (xyyHG)

83 As long as one of you is putting out. Twenty-something daughters preferred.

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 12:49 PM (hawOV)

84 Rasmussen has Coleman up over Franken 43/39

Posted by: oldfart at October 30, 2008 12:50 PM (L8y/X)

85 Hilarious! Concern Troll fooled by Conservative Troll.

Posted by: someone at October 30, 2008 12:51 PM (zHoxL)

Have not read the entire thread. (Don't have the time any longer.) But I seem to recall that back during the McCain seven houses (or is it eight) scandal it was briefly mentioned that one of the condos counted as a residence was actually occupied by McCain's invalid aunt. (Never heard if it was maternal or paternal.)

Posted by: Have Blue at October 30, 2008 12:51 PM (WuPk/)

87 I believe he has the potential to be a dictator.

You better squelch that shit or you're going to a reeducation camp.

Posted by: Barak Obama at October 30, 2008 12:52 PM (OqXyp)

Isn't it funny that people who talk openly about sharing the weath don't do so privately and yet they are all living high on the hog?

Posted by: D.Phistry at October 30, 2008 12:53 PM (vtiE6)

89 Dictator? I am too soft for re-education camps, won't survive the orientation. Sigh, I wonder if I have any skills New Zealand may be interested in..

Posted by: IC at October 30, 2008 12:57 PM (jZNCU)

90 I read on someone's blog that the dems as a group, the politicians, give very little to charity and the republicans probably over give.

Posted by: incredulous at October 30, 2008 12:58 PM (zplc6)

91 Christof, are we all going to get ODS? The left said this about W for the past 8 years. he may be an effette marxist prick, but he aint dictator material.

Posted by: Ben at October 30, 2008 12:58 PM (rs7M9)

92 Sigh, I wonder if I have any skills New Zealand may be interested in..

What are your feelings about sheep?

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Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 12:49 PM (hawOV)

my daughter is 13, and my husband would rip your balls off and feed them to you for breakfast. so maybe that won't work out for any of us

LOL

Posted by: funky chicken at October 30, 2008 01:00 PM (xyyHG)

I'm sorry I missed that quote during Barry's acceptance speech. I was drinking and flipping back and forth to the NC State-South Carolina game.

That's as succinct a distillation of Barry's philosophy of government as there ever has been. It takes a village to raise a child -- and Washington is the village, and YOU are the child.

Posted by: Brewdog at October 30, 2008 01:00 PM (jg+Fr)

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Posted by: L4n3 at October 30, 2008 01:02 PM (S6rud)

96 Whether or not I support extended family (or they support) is not relevant. What I don't do is buy 30 minutes of prime time to preach at you about it while I have relatives living in poverty.

Posted by: mpur at October 30, 2008 01:04 PM (BotaL)

97 "Christof, are we all going to get ODS? The left said this about W for the past 8 years. he may be an effette marxist prick, but he aint dictator material."

Sure, Ben, creating a cult of personality, symbols of power like you're own seal, having terrorist Marxist friends who've talked about putting millions of people in reeducation camps and eliminating up to 25 million (killing them), proposing a "civilian" national security force with weapons and manpower equal to the military, unprecedented financial fundraising fraud, and using thuggish election tactics to steal his party's nomination, in a man so cold he supports infanticide couldn't possibly be the sort of man.

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 01:04 PM (hawOV)

98 Posted by: Ben at October 30, 2008 12:58 PM (rs7M9)

Right Ben, what would ever make somebody think that? Gee, I dunno, lets go to the checklist:

* Speeches in stadiums filled with mesmerized, adoring audiences - Check
* An uninspiring background before meteoric rise - Check
* Creates his own new symbols of power - Check
* Associates with racists, hatemongers and violent radicals - Check
* believes in redistributing the wealth - Check
* A propaganda machine willing to show him only in the best possible light - Check
* Uses, "glorious leader" style Agitprop posters common in totalitarian nations - Check (see German campaign poster for example)
* Wants Secret Police force - Check
* Somebody powerful people think they can control - Check
* Often dismissed as a light-weight by his opponents - Check
* Seeks to replace God with the State - Check
* People adopting his name as their own - Check
* Inspires adoration art - Check
* Appropriates symbols of past German glory - Check
* Never plans on giving up power - Check (Obama to be president for the next “eight to 10 years”)
* A narcissistic megalomaniac - Check
* Brazenly Takes credit for other people's accomplishments - Check
* Wants to build "youth" movement through Universal National State service - Check
* Acts as if in power before he is - Check
* Some followers believe him to be divine - Check
* Worshiped and aided greatly by the media - Check
* Has his own salute - Check
* Has thuggish supporters intimdating political opponents – Check
* Using the power of the State to silence critics - Check
* Songs written to glorify him performed by children - Check

Posted by: TheBigOldDog at October 30, 2008 01:04 PM (0oAW0)

99 I agree with your examples, yes he does this, but looks like doesn't mean it is. maybe just watching the unhinged detached from reality left for 8 years makes me worry that we need to proceed cautiously with these kinds of allegations. Believe me , this guy scares the crap out of me too.

Posted by: Ben at October 30, 2008 01:09 PM (rs7M9)

100 "my daughter is 13, and my husband would rip your balls off and feed them to you for breakfast."

I hear he's a navy pilot so he just may. (In reality he could, but it would almost certainly go the other way, which I won't get into because it's both dumb on the internet and I'm sure he's a fantastic man whom I'd greatly admire.)

And I wouldn't even take a twenty-nine year old daughter without her full consent and desire.

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 01:10 PM (hawOV)

101 that basic precept in Matthew that whatever you do for the least of my brothers, you do for me

Look, obviously when Jesus wrote the Bible, he wasn't referring to private charity here, he was talking about government programs to spread the wealth around. Duh.

Posted by: Brendan at October 30, 2008 01:12 PM (2jQGY)

102

cristoph, yeah, I know, that's why the LOL

off to run errands

Posted by: funky chicken at October 30, 2008 01:16 PM (xyyHG)

103 whatever you do for the least of my brothers, you do for me.”

OMG Obama left the Baby Jesus to die in a closet!!!

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 30, 2008 12:03 PM (5aa4z)

Yep. Pretty much nails it.

Hope he enjoys those children's adoring choirs and the media's adulation and NARAL's 100% rating and the misery of the people he crushes and lies about and walks over and cheats of votes to get the power he wants.

Wonder if it'll alllll be worth it to him on Judgment Day.

Posted by: no one you know at October 30, 2008 01:25 PM (MiCSn)

104 Oh shit- I just heard the Ofomercial. There are people losing their jobs! Oh noes! And the plant is closing! Oh noes! It must be McSames fault!

Posted by: TMF at October 30, 2008 01:40 PM (waaUg)

105 FOX poll- usually fairly reliable- drops in one week from NINE point O lead to THREE point O lead. Now the shits getting interesting.

Posted by: TMF at October 30, 2008 01:41 PM (waaUg)

106 The quote Jack Dunphy used for his post turns out to be a spoof. It's a good spoof precisely because it dovetails so well with the real data points we see on Obama.

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 01:41 PM (hawOV)

107 Yes, it's going to be a close dogfight, TMF. GOTV will be crucial. So will tamping down on Obama's fraudulent voters... and that will be tough.

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 01:42 PM (hawOV)

108

I hear he's a navy pilot so he just may. (In reality he could, but it would almost certainly go the other way, which I won't get into because it's both dumb on the internet and I'm sure he's a fantastic man whom I'd greatly admire.)

Sure now you're just a humble tough guy. Can you get any more lame.

Posted by: polynikes at October 30, 2008 01:43 PM (m2CN7)

109 I don't know that I'm humble, polynikes, nor do I think I'm as tough as a navy pilot. Toughness has only a little to do with it.

In the end my strategy would be simple: I'd buy him a beer, thank him for his service, and wish his family well. What else would one do with a decent and heroic man like that?

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 01:46 PM (hawOV)

110

In terms of the "brother's keeper" argument, it's true that Obama misinterpreted Cain's classic dodge as a Biblical mandate for the government to take wealth from the rich and give to the poor. But then, surely nobody believed Obama ever understood anything about Christianity. Look where he attended church, for pity's sake!

And as for the "least of these" argument, Christ was talking about the necessity for the individual, with his individual conscience, to act charitably toward the needy. Something Obama has never done, with the exception of a big check he cut to the Reverend Wright a couple of years ago. It has absolutely nothing to do with requiring mandatory government largesse.

Which big check, by the way, the Reverend Wright put to good use by preaching to AIDS sufferers that they had been intentionally afflicted by the federal government that Obama aspires to lead.

It's just mind boggling when I think about it.

Posted by: CornFedBeauty at October 30, 2008 01:49 PM (8r/RM)

111 The only possible connection this has to this post is the title, "The Least of These".

However, it's so chilling it is worth understanding fully. I wish I could say this evil surprises me, but it only sickens and angers me.

From Hot Air. (No Graphic Images, just Horrible Words and Acts)

Posted by: Christoph at October 30, 2008 01:55 PM (hawOV)

112 I didn't mean the biblical story, uh I meant from New Jack City, uh, uh no, wait, its just different in black liberation theology, which uh, uh, I didn't understand or hear any of at that church I attended for 20 years, uhhhhhhhh.

Posted by: Barry O at October 30, 2008 02:01 PM (mD4t/)

113

How could a Marxist understand the nuances of the Bible?

Posted by: katya at October 30, 2008 02:27 PM (G3frc)

114
Ace should have a daily thread just for Christoph and no one else. Where Christoph posts all the comments. All Christoph all the time. The perfect echo chamber. Something to keep him occupied. To keep him from going Cliff Klaven on us every two minutes.

Posted by: Steve (aka Ed Snate) at October 30, 2008 02:27 PM (mPXF1)

115 Ace should have a daily thread just for Christoph and no one else

It's just a damn shame that they've stopped allowing people to start blogs.

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Posted by: diderot at October 30, 2008 02:58 PM (PD1tk)

118

Be nice to Christoph, he can't help it. In fact I'm dressing up as him for Halloween.

Now Christoph, just how many times do I hit myself in the head with a hammer?

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 30, 2008 02:59 PM (jndSp)

119 "But philosophically, socialists and Marxists believe in government funding of poor people and therefore they do donate less to charity."

Forked tongue.

Socialists/Marxists believe in other people funding the poor. Warren Buffet keeps talking the talk of "wanting to pay more taxes himself" without dishing his fortune to the IRS. Al Franken doesn't even pay his taxes, let alone file his employees federal withholding, not to mention make any contributions to real charities. Though claiming "good intentions" and all, they extract themselves from paying taxes and never quite give to charity. Never has equality been a more hypocritical ideology than seeing Marxism in reality, not in its fairy tale conception.

Actions speak louder than words.

Obama claims to CARE. Obama promises to provide for the needy as he browbeats America with scriptural references to which he himself doesn't lift a finger to accomplish, namely CHARITY FOR HIS OWN BROTHER, THE LEAST OF THESE MY BROTHERS. Jesus said that what we do and produce is how we will be understood, and how to understand others. Regarding job skills, Obama requires the power to force everyone to take care of Obama's responsibilities for him. Remember, Obama has no accomplishment of his own to date to qualify as POTUS material. He has even failed to care for his own black family who aren't even our responsibility since they are NOT CITIZENS.

PATHETIC candidate Obama fraud.

Posted by: maverick muse at October 30, 2008 03:22 PM (F1b/5)

120

Because Obama likes Bible quotes, especially ones that shame others, I'd like to point him to this particular verse:

1 Timothy 5:8 "But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever."*

*English Standard Version of the Bible quoted here for clarity.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 30, 2008 03:57 PM (rYmoh)

121 I just don't see this as a particularly useful political attack 5 days out.

Oh, if that was your point then I have to agree. Of course, that's why our own press has studiously avoided reporting such stories, because then they would be useful to Obama's opposition. Instead they leave it for the British to dig up just before the election. Most Americans will never even hear about it.

Anyway, it's pretty much academic since I don't think McCain intends to use this as an attack. Except maybe as a throwaway line illustrating Obama's economic philosophy in action.

Posted by: Bryan C at October 30, 2008 04:43 PM (T3KlW)

122 Hey I saw he is a lying dangerous, marxist sack of racist shit ages ago, reminds me of the pre dictator archive footage of nice Mr Hitler. My excuse is I am untill the 19th Nov in the country formerly known as England, why are you writing to here, most of us ar on the same song sheet, got tell your freinds and neibours, show them the you tube vids etc so many smart people are mesmerised by him, they need help.

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124 He used her in his book to make money but he can't help her out when she obviously needs it. Being a bitter, gun clinging Pennsylvanian I can tell you we take care of our own back home..always.
He should be ashamed of himself but he is incapable of feeling shame or remorse.

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Obama was made up and he is fully funconal now as he is good to go.

Least of these are all of them who are fooled by the reality as it is a big giant analogy reality

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