Dow Up 900, Back Over 9000

More trades to be reflected even though the bell's sounded.

Keys: Fed rate to be cut, oil prices continue declining, some good corporate reports.

Eh. Given the up and down nature of the market, it's hard for me to get excited by yet another huge uptick. It's not yet the case that we can say confidence has been restored and the markets are looking forward to a growing economy in six months.

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Again.

Posted by: Slublog at October 28, 2008 04:11 PM (R8+nJ)

2 My reason?

Gallup traditional poll + trends.

Posted by: Al at October 28, 2008 04:11 PM (Lk931)

3 ... and early indications of some last-minute shifts in McCain's direction not a moment to soon.

That is a factor.

Posted by: Christoph at October 28, 2008 04:11 PM (hawOV)

4 As long as the market doesn't tank again, this is very good for McCain.

And at this point, that matters more than the whole recession thing.

Posted by: someone at October 28, 2008 04:14 PM (zHoxL)

5 They aren't "looking forward to a growing economy in six months."

They're looking at the potential absence of completely batshit crazies in control of filibuster- and veto-proof majorities.

Posted by: Al at October 28, 2008 04:15 PM (Lk931)

6 Veto-proof in the sense that Obama would be unable to veto them.

Posted by: Al at October 28, 2008 04:16 PM (Lk931)

7 Fed rate cut + sentiment on Wall Street that the Dembots won't get a super majority?

Posted by: Eric at October 28, 2008 04:16 PM (wM/aS)

8 can we cross our fingers here that we now get 6 days of benign trading (or an up market)? ironically i think part of the market dive is due to traders starting to price in an obama presidency... pretty ironic, eh? the lower it goes the more likely Obama wins.

Posted by: new at October 28, 2008 04:19 PM (MobLv)

9 Soros must have taken a bath today, with all those short positions he has been maintaining trying to drive the market down.

Posted by: David at October 28, 2008 04:20 PM (HAdov)

Has anyone ever polled the Market, or is it always policy wonks saying what the driver is ?

We poll everything else in the US

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17 "ironically i think part of the market dive is due to traders starting to price in an obama presidency... pretty ironic, eh? the lower it goes the more likely Obama wins."

It is ironic because it's so true.

Posted by: Christoph at October 28, 2008 04:29 PM (hawOV)

18 Hopefully my 401k will regain its ground just in time for Obama to nationalize it.

Posted by: Tomtastic at October 28, 2008 04:30 PM (Sxrnp)

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Posted by: Uncle Pennyworth at October 28, 2008 04:34 PM (Z7fcC)

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Posted by: Uncle Pennyworth at October 28, 2008 04:35 PM (Z7fcC)

Tip:

the next three days of trading are important. Usally if the dow does not go below today's starting price during the next 3 days and if the volume is not more than todasy's then on the 4th day the dow will rally again and close above today's high.

That means Monday could be a massive rally on the street. The day before the vote for all you home gamers. there is a case to be made for a fed cut and no fed cut. If the fed cuts it depends on the language of the cut. If they hold rates and say the underlying economy is imporving the market would most likely stablize.

If the market thinks things are getting better it rallies.

Posted by: unseen at October 28, 2008 04:37 PM (aVGmX)

Ace,

If the dow was down 11% do you think the dems would be saying

Eh. Given the up and down nature of the market, it's hard for me to get excited by yet another huge updowntick. It's not yet the case that we can say no confidence has been shown and the markets are looking forward to a declining economy in six months.

hell no they would be screaming at the top of their lungs that a 11% crash in the markets show that bush is an idiot, that the fundemental capitalistic system has failed, that we now need to give up all our freedom so big government can protect us.

The dems brought a gun to the economic discussion in sept. you brought a pocket knife today.

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At least you didn't get sodomized by a gorilla....repeatedly.

Wait for that Obama presidency, then you'll know what it feels like.

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