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Ohio's Head of Job and Family Services Approved a Child-Support Search on Joe Wurzelbacher Immediately After Third Debate;
Her Excuse? "Oh, We Always Do That"
Confirmed: Max Donor to Obama


Helen Jones-Kelley, pawing through the records
of anyone who challenges Barack Obama...
Ohio residents be warned: You're being watched

Update: Yes, Helen Jones-Kelley (two e's in Kelley) just happens to be a maximum $2300 contributor to Barack Obama.

What a fucking shock, huh?

But she provides this sort of illegal intrusion into personal records for anyone who "comes into the public light." It's a public service, you see.

Right.

Riiiiight.

Thanks to Yeppers.

...

Yeah. Okay.

Ohio's inspector general is investigating why a state agency director approved checking the state child-support computer system for information on "Joe the Plumber."

Helen Jones-Kelly, director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services, confirmed today that she OK'd the check on Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher following the Oct. 15 presidential debate.

She said there were no political reasons for the check on the sudden presidential campaign fixture though the Support Enforcement Tracking System.

Amid questions from the media and others about "Joe the Plumber," Jones-Kelley said she approved a check to determine if he was current on any ordered child-support payments.

Such information was not and cannot be publicly shared, she said. It is unclear if Wurzelbacher is involved in a child-support case. Reports state that he lives alone with a 13-year-old son.

"Our practice is when someone is thrust quickly into the public spotlight, we often take a look" at them, Jones-Kelley said, citing a case where a lottery winner was found to owe past-due child support. "Our practice is to basically look at what is coming our way."

Ohio Inspector General Thomas P. Charles confirmed today that he is investigating the incident to determine if "Joe''s" records were legally accessed by Job and Family Services employees.

The use of a state computer system to search for information on Wurzelbacher is the fourth uncovered by The Dispatch.

Democrat Gov. Ted Strickland [who appointed Jones-Kelly this past January] is satisfied that there are no political overtures to the check on Wurzelbacher, a spokesman said.

Ah, I see. Everyone's satisfied.

His name was also searched at the Bureau of Motor Vehicles, in the Toledo Police Department's criminal records, and in the office of the AG.

Is such a deep concern for each of its citizens standard service under the Strickand administration?

God, Ohioans must feel so well looked after. Almost as if they have some benevolent Big Brother looking over their shoulders.

PS, the tip here (which I'm still looking for evidence on) is that Helen Jones-Kelly just happens to be a supporter of Barack Obama.

Obama Supporter? Yup.

Anyone Want to Dig Dirt on Helen Jones-Kelley? It's a service we provide here at AoSHQ to anyone who "steps into the public spotlight."

(Not safe for work) Perez Hilton style witty picture commentary.

Again, just a service we provide. Gratis.


Posted by: Ace at 12:08 AM



Comments

1 That's the excuse the IRS used to go after Clinton's political enemies in the 90s.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 27, 2008 08:52 PM (T0NGe)

2 Whew! For a day or two I thought there might have been some political reason to look up Joe's records.

Boy, the Dems sure have a lot vested in Obama this cycle. It smells like coup d'etat or something.

Posted by: reginaldL at October 27, 2008 08:54 PM (AuXAX)

3 It' perfectly normal to do it.

Just like it was perfectly normal procedure for the State Department to search Hillary's records. Oh, you don't like it when someone searches the records of Democrats?

Oh, well, that's different, then.

Posted by: Bart at October 27, 2008 08:54 PM (wIDgz)

4 Character assassination is par for the course with the brown shirts.

Posted by: chris at October 27, 2008 08:54 PM (0yUqd)

5 And every loose tool in the kit has been bitching about the patriot act since its beginning.
 Okay tools, we now have a glimpse into what comrade Obama would bring to the US.......what do you have to say now?
 Patriot Act went after terrorists.
 Obama and his minions the democrats are going after citizens for disagreeing with them.
 See a problem yet?

Posted by: christmasghost at October 27, 2008 08:55 PM (aUut1)

6 ace.....i know that i am a cute litle minx and all that, but do you think you could drop the minx.cc from in front of my name....pleeeeeeze?

Posted by: christmasghost at October 27, 2008 08:56 PM (aUut1)

7 Nevermind this nonsense. Can we discuss the real issues facing Americans in these times of economic crisis?

Did Gov Palin abuse her power as governor when she fires state employees? How much does she spend on those fancy glasses? Who pays for them?

Does Todd Palin have any DUIs or illegitimate children?

Posted by: Bart at October 27, 2008 08:57 PM (wIDgz)

8 Oh, and Obama didn't need a Patriot Act to do it and won't need one to do even worse (forestalling the Paultards).

Posted by: AmishDude at October 27, 2008 08:57 PM (T0NGe)

9 If their goal was to further promote my suspicion of big brother's desire to snoop on people who have different opinions which may hurt their political causes, then I'm satisfied.

Posted by: Sean at October 27, 2008 08:57 PM (vZzYJ)

10 Re #5

Fucking Exactly. Obama is doing all of the bullshit that liberals claimed Bush would do with the Patriot Act, only he has such a fucking mind control over his supporters, that he doesn't even have to ask them to do it.

The difference between Obama and Putin?  The American media actually enjoys lying for Obama.

Posted by: james at October 27, 2008 08:57 PM (qUDJD)

11 See a problem yet?

La-la-lal-la! I can't hear you!

Cordially...

Posted by: Rick at October 27, 2008 08:58 PM (zncSj)

12 ace ... did you see the new youtube video where BO drops the tax cut from $250K to $200K???? We are all discussing it on the Meghan link.

Posted by: incognito at October 27, 2008 08:59 PM (Rpam5)

13 Christmasghost, just put http:// in front of your url.

Posted by: mesablue at October 27, 2008 09:01 PM (5yNaE)

14

More about Helen Jones-Kelly:

 http://tiny.cc/ceP0w

Posted by: Juliet16 at October 27, 2008 09:01 PM (2xgu5)

15 Funny how cocksucker Strickland's admin is right on top of Joe the plumber, but mass voter fraud is not really a big priority among Ohio officials.

I mean, yeah, perpetrating voter fraud is indeed a big priority among Ohio officials. Obviously. Stopping voter fraud and investigating voter fraud? Not so much.

But find out everything about Joe the Plumber fast!


Posted by: Bart at October 27, 2008 09:01 PM (wIDgz)

16 can someone go look at obama's columbia grades now?

Posted by: perineumpirate at October 27, 2008 09:02 PM (rKSJ1)

17 "Our practice is when someone is thrust quickly into the public spotlight, we often take a look" at them, Jones-Kelley said, citing a case where a lottery winner was found to owe past-due child support. "Our practice is to basically look at what is coming our way."

Well that's easy enough to verify. Prove it, bee-otch.

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2008 09:02 PM (KF4QM)

18

Re#10

James, the suckers of cock in our MSM also enjoy blowing Putin - it's just that Obambi is soooo much closer.

Just wait until the election is over and they start combing the list of McCain voters - we're all so screwed. That's where Ayres and his comrades are getting their list for the reeducation camps.

Posted by: Murph at October 27, 2008 09:04 PM (Dw2sU)

19 why would joe the plumber pay child support if he is the father of only one child & that child lives with him?  does the child work for ACORN?

Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 27, 2008 09:04 PM (ioTid)

20 Checking to see if a lottery winner (or someone else getting a check from the state) owes the state money makes sense.

JtP, not so much.

If this isn't total bullshit (which we know it is), she'll be able to give other examples.

Posted by: Dead Career Sketch at October 27, 2008 09:04 PM (JTN0y)

21 Juliet16 #14 - How come all of the folks pictured on that page are African-American?

Posted by: MCPO Airdale at October 27, 2008 09:05 PM (wba6w)

22 Would it surprise you to know that Michelle Obama has bigger balls than I do?

No, I suppose it wouldn't.

If I try to touch them through my TV will the Secret Service come get me? And if the do, will they tie me up and make me suck them off while moaning Obama's name?

Posted by: diderot's dog at October 27, 2008 09:06 PM (nrD02)

23

Yeah, I don't get it.  I have no doubt that there are folks on both the McCain and Clinton campaigns who know exactly what Barry's grades are, what he did during his Columbia years, etc.  It is way too EASY to find that info out.. They all have connections inside the beltway in various agencies that can find out that kind of stuff... so they KNOW.

But why are they not releasing it to the PUBLIC?  I don't get it.  This is driving me insane.

Somebody tell me why....

 

Posted by: Juliet16 at October 27, 2008 09:08 PM (2xgu5)

24 Vet this hack!

Someone who lives near Helen Gurly-Brown Jones-Kelly needs to go to her house, take pictures of her house and her cars.

I guaran-fucking-tee she has at least one Obama sign or sticker.

Expose these cocksuckers!!

Posted by: Bart at October 27, 2008 09:08 PM (wIDgz)

25 "The difference between Obama and Putin?"
 Training, smarts, honesty,testosterone,class....I could go on and on.
 Isn't that sad?

 Mesablue...thanks, I am obviously a moron.....

Posted by: christmasghost at October 27, 2008 09:08 PM (aUut1)

26 She is definitely an Obama support - there are two donations from a Helen Jones-Kelley of OH to Obama in July 2008 - $2300 & $200 - opensecrects.org

http://tinyurl.com/562lsf

Posted by: 12 at October 27, 2008 09:09 PM (jSYra)

27 Cocksucker!

Posted by: Mr Wu at October 27, 2008 09:09 PM (PD1tk)

28 test

Posted by: christmasghost at October 27, 2008 09:09 PM (aUut1)

29 #18

I know our media loves Putin, but I meant it as a comparison between Obama and our MSM and Putin and his government-controlled news outlets.   There's real penalties for speaking against Putin in Russia, and there aren't any yet here, but the media here never speaks out against Obama out of actual admiration.

Posted by: james at October 27, 2008 09:10 PM (qUDJD)

30 mesablue...thanks for the tip!

Posted by: christmasghost at October 27, 2008 09:12 PM (aUut1)

31 We need a pic of this corrupt bitch getting in her car with an Obama sticker on it.


Posted by: Bart at October 27, 2008 09:12 PM (wIDgz)

32 She was vetted.

Didn't you see the exhaustive and detailed investigation?

They do this all the time.

That means it's OK.

They always search the database of people who dare ask their Messiah a question that he screws up.

Sheesh...you guys.

Now let this go and don't vote.


Posted by: JavaJoe at October 27, 2008 09:13 PM (Am6n/)

33 Each of these instances of accessing these records is a potential violation of the Privacy Act of 1974 and should be investigated.  Just a thought.

"Our practice is when someone is thrust quickly into the public spotlight, we often take a look" at them, Jones-Kelley said, citing a case where a lottery winner was found to owe past-due child support. "Our practice is to basically look at what is coming our way."

If that practice cannot be applied to this case or is misapplied in this case, there should at least be an investigation.

Posted by: Kae Gregory at October 27, 2008 09:14 PM (YbfnA)

34 Fucking banana republic.  All you Ohioans must be so very proud.

Posted by: Dang at October 27, 2008 09:14 PM (XFyLb)

35 " Training, smarts, honesty,testosterone,class....I could go on and on."

Honesty, really?  Class?  Maybe he has training and smarts (he'd have to have them, he's ex-KGB, and he gets plenty of testosterone from steroids most likely), but he's certainly not honest, and class doesn't count for shit.  Just as Peggy Noonan.

Posted by: james at October 27, 2008 09:15 PM (qUDJD)

36

Ace, did you check Helen and name variations on the FEC and opensecrets for contributions?

 

She probably supported Clinton.

Posted by: geoff at October 27, 2008 09:15 PM (zEGWh)

37

We need a pic of this corrupt bitch getting in her car with an Obama sticker on it.

She probably had a bust of Obama that she bows and lights incense to a couple of times a day.

Posted by: katya at October 27, 2008 09:15 PM (G3frc)

38 I believe the "C" word is in order for this cunt... whoops.

Posted by: Editor at October 27, 2008 09:16 PM (p4YSL)

39 Bigot swine homophobic cockhounds. People who live in glass houses shouldn't have to defend intellectual snobbery and excess vodka consumption. Go pork your kin in Wal-Mart's parking lot.

Posted by: Pegggy Nooonaan at October 27, 2008 09:17 PM (HsNXz)

40 JavaJoe,

I agree, I looked deeply into this and we are more than satisfied that there was no, I repeat NO, political underlying motives to look into Joe the Plumber's private records.

I'll be more than happy to take questions from the media.........

"Gov. Strickland?"

"Yes?"

"Did you look into this?"

"Yes"

If there are no further questions I have more important work to do that to deal with this Republican Hate Mongering Lynching.

People are starving.

Posted by: Gov. Ted Strickland at October 27, 2008 09:18 PM (Am6n/)

41

People who worry about the Patriot Act are fools!  When you are part of a massive fraud conspiracy, have practically unlimited cash, Congressional Leaders keeping the FEC's hands tied, and total disinformation or blackout cover as required from the media...

...you don't need no stinking Patriot Act! 

Posted by: sherlock at October 27, 2008 09:18 PM (ojW85)

42

What a cocksucking bitch. I bet she and jennifer bruner both fight over obama's dick.

Posted by: Ginger at October 27, 2008 09:18 PM (qSqPf)

43

had = has

sorry, watching t.v.

Posted by: katya at October 27, 2008 09:18 PM (G3frc)

44 Come to Ohio and say that.

I'll investigation your ass.

We do it all the time.

Posted by: Helen Jones-Kelly at October 27, 2008 09:21 PM (Am6n/)

45

Bart, I believe you have your head where the sun don't shine on the check of Hillary's records. That also turned out to be someone working for Barack (Islamic) Hussein (Islamic) Hussein (Islamic) who claims to be the only non-Islamic in his families history. The non-black Arab Islamic side that is. No go lick Hussein's butt hole to get the taste of your own butt hole out of your mouth.

I feel good. Once Hussein is elected no one has to work and we will have all have plenty of money. He's going to take more from the 5% who already pay almost all of the taxes and give it to us. I wonder why he never gave his brother, who lives on $12 a year or his aged grandmother living in the chicken house one dime out of his millions. We maybe he just doesn't give from his own money but will take from the rich and give to us...I'll be waiting for my bailout money and my new black Caddie.

Posted by: Scrapiron at October 27, 2008 09:22 PM (8nB5X)

46 12's link doesn't work, but going to opensecrets.org and putting in Jones-Kelley and Ohio turns up a $2300 and a $200 donation for Baracky.

Posted by: Yeppers at October 27, 2008 09:22 PM (JTN0y)

47 Wait.

Is Helen Gurly-Brown-Kelly-Jones-Fuckface-Corrupt-Coksucker black?

If she is, I take it all back. I don't want to be called a racist.

Posted by: Bart at October 27, 2008 09:22 PM (wIDgz)

48

kae:

The excuse she's using is to check to see if someone who just publically came into a ton of MONEY, like a lottery winner, gets checked to that the state can get paid from that money.

Asking a question of Obama cannot be accepted under that loophole // policy.

no way.

Posted by: geoff at October 27, 2008 09:25 PM (zEGWh)

49 That also turned out to be someone working for Barack...

Really?

Wow I wonder why I never heard much about it after the media spread the rumor that it was Republican Bush's State Department that was doing the snooping?

Posted by: Bart at October 27, 2008 09:25 PM (wIDgz)

50 Republicans have seized on the incidents to suggest that the checks were politically motivated invasions of Wurzelbacher's privacy and attempts to dig up dirt to discredit the man.

Yeah it's just a mild suggestion only by the Republicans. They SEIZED on it.

Fuck the Media.


Posted by: JavaJoe at October 27, 2008 09:28 PM (Am6n/)

51 As someone born in Ohio with family still back there, I'm concerned for the protection of their confidential information held by the State. That these practices are accepted and excused by top governmental officials is absolutely inexcusable.

Most larger corporations that handle confidential information (e.g. credit card, bank card, social security, medical records, etc.) have a variety of policies restricting the access to consumer or taxpayer information. Annually, I must certify with the IRS's rigorous requirements due to the rare chance I may accidentally see a taxpayer record on a computer screen while I'm in the process of assessing a business unit and am verifying technical controls. In this certification, I must review and attest that unless I have a clear authorized need to access a taxpayer record specific to an assigned work activity, I am not permitted to access it. Our personnel that have access to those systems are prohibited from casually looking at information "just because they saw someone on TV and had the technical privileges." Neither may the open up a relative's file or any person they may have another relationship with.

This is absolute government irresponsibility to its greatest extreme. Ohio's Governor would be terminated for cause for permitting and excusing this conduct under IRS rules in our corporation. Rogue employees aren't allowed to initiate their own investigations without a formal initiation of an investigation request from the authorities with that authorization to initiate.

What a mess we have: a sold-out news media and a corrupt-to-the-core government. Say goodbye to your liberties, we're seeing this nation is rotten to the core.

Posted by: redherkey at October 27, 2008 09:29 PM (kjqFg)

52 Drudge asks:

ABCCBSNBCNYTLATWSJCNN
MSNBCAPREUTERSAFPPOLITCO
FTTIMEWASHPOSTNEWSWEEK:
CAN THEY ALL BE WRONG?

Yes.

Posted by: Editor at October 27, 2008 09:31 PM (p4YSL)

53 2's link doesn't work, but going to opensecrets.org and putting in Jones-Kelley and Ohio turns up a $2300 and a $200 donation for Baracky.

I looked Yeppers and nothing came up.

Do you have a link?

Posted by: JavaJoe at October 27, 2008 09:32 PM (Am6n/)

54 Ja. Vee vill maak you pay for exposing da fuhrer The One.

Posted by: phreshone at October 27, 2008 09:33 PM (oH2N4)

55

ddog, normally you're tiresome, and flat-out wrong.

and this is no exception.

 

so you can move on to the next topic troll.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 27, 2008 09:34 PM (BFs8T)

56 They make it hard to give a link, but this should bring it up:

Go to opensecrets.org

Click on "Donor lookup" under "Politicians and Elections"

Enter "Jones-Kelley" for the name (note the two e's in Kelley) and Ohio for the state.

Enter the captcha code at the bottom of the screen.

That should do it.

Posted by: Yeppers at October 27, 2008 09:39 PM (JTN0y)

57 Fucking banana republic.  All you Ohioans must be so very proud.

Well we've got the old-school donks around Cleveburg that keep buying Kucinich's shit that the steel mills and auto plants are coming back; that's worked out well.  What's left of the mobsters in Youngstown that kept Traficant flush in road-kill hairpieces; I think they pretty much just cornhole each other these days.  The dumbfucks in Toledo that won't issue a permit for a Marine exercise because, well, they don't support the men in uniform.  And the young upwardly-mobile suburbanite trash in Clodumbus that know the price of blow (both kinds) and the value of nothing.  Other than the shitheads in whatever glorified crossroad in southern Ahia inflicted Strickland on us, the rest of the state is ok.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 27, 2008 09:39 PM (m2sQh)

58 The link doesn't work because of the verification.  Try this link for searching - http://tinyurl.com/5lkyzc

Type in Kelly-Jones and OH then the verification code and it should bring back the results.

Posted by: 12 at October 27, 2008 09:41 PM (jSYra)

59 Re:35........yeah. Honesty.
 Putin has no problem letting everyone and their dog know that he is a rotten to the core commie bastard.
 Obama? yeah...not so much....at least not until after the election.
 Then even the dumbass kool aid drinkers will know...really know.

 I'll take an honest commie over a douche  like Obama every single time........

Posted by: christmasghost at October 27, 2008 09:41 PM (aUut1)

60 Jones-Kelley, Helen
Dayton,OH 45415 State of Ohio 7/31/08 $2,300 Obama, Barack (D) Jones-Kelley, Helen
Dayton,OH 45415 State of Ohio 7/31/08 $200 Obama, Barack (D)

 

From opensecrets

Posted by: jtareb at October 27, 2008 09:45 PM (0lT7z)

61 so where do you think the re-education camps will be located, warm or cold climate?

Posted by: robtr at October 27, 2008 09:45 PM (C6ME0)

62 http://tinyurl.com/create.php

That's a link to a $2500 Obama donation she made.

Posted by: stace at October 27, 2008 09:45 PM (JO0c/)

63 It's "Jones-Kelley", not "Kelly-Jones", note.

Posted by: Yeppers at October 27, 2008 09:46 PM (JTN0y)

64

According to Ted Strickland's press release announcing the December 06 appointment of Jones-Kelly:

Former director of the Montgomery County Department of Jobs and Family Services; executive director of the Montgomery County Children Services Department since 1995. She is also a licensed attorney. Prior to her work with Children Services, Jones-Kelley served as a referee (Magistrate) and Assistant Legal Director for Montgomery County Juvenile Court.

Someone has to go to Obama HQ Ohio and get a printed copy of the list of local elected officials endorsing Obama.  Thats where her name is likely to be found. This list not online but I guarantee it exists in some field/grassroots staffer's desk.

Posted by: Mike D. at October 27, 2008 09:47 PM (7B+e2)

65 So how is it that a state apparatchick who probably isn't taking down a monster megabuck salary can afford to donate $2500?  I could see maybe $500 if they were real generous...

Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 27, 2008 09:48 PM (OqXyp)

66 Point of clarification: she hasnt held elective office per se, but she is on some list of local government-types in Obama's Montgomery County campaign family.

Posted by: Mike D. at October 27, 2008 09:49 PM (7B+e2)

67 In Texas, it's SOP for the state to look into child support, taxes, and wants & warrants for a lottery winner before handing over the check.

I don't think they do that just because you became the object of media obsession.

Posted by: mpur at October 27, 2008 09:49 PM (BotaL)

68 PS, the tip here (which I'm still looking for evidence on) is that Helen Jones-Kelly just happens to be a supporter of Barack Obama.

Well, this isn't explicit, but most certainly implicit:

COLUMBUS - Eye on the Statehouse has named the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services (ODJFS) its Porker of the Week.  The state agency is seeking to expand Ohio's overburdened Medicaid program. 

Last week, ODJFS Director Helen Jones-Kelly asked the Ohio Senate Finance and Financial Institutions Committee to allow families earning 300 percent of the poverty level to buy into the state's Medicaid program. 

That appears rather "SCHIPish" to me.

Posted by: Bilby at October 27, 2008 09:51 PM (8iDn7)

69

HEY - maybe the 20% of Republicans in Ohio that voted for Strickland in 2006 can pay attention and come home in 2010 when he's up for re-election?

The heads of most of the state agencies are appointed by the Governor - so if you want to stop this, you need to vote Strickland out, along with the Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner. We need people to support the Republican candidates with funds in 2010 if the Republicans are going to have a chance in the 2012 presidential race in Ohio.

Elections matter. Pay attention to the Governor and Secretary of State races in Ohio in 2010.

Posted by: Tabris at October 27, 2008 09:53 PM (tFC9w)

70 #61......
 According the The OverLord's puppeteer Ayers they will most likely be in the southwest.....at least that was the old plan.
  See Ayer's book prairie fire......
 That way they can grab all the hispanics that are never going to vote for Obama...no matter what his campaign says.

 I'm not packing though, because I know I will be in the group of 25 million American patriots that can't be "re-educated".

So Obama now has armies of kids, his own Hess, Brownshirts and jewicidal idiots like Axelrod....wow, with the economy the way it "is" historians really weren't kidding about that whole' those who forget the past [or deliberatley don't teach it.....see Ayers] are doomed to repeat it.
 Hitler would be so proud.......

Posted by: christmasghost at October 27, 2008 09:53 PM (aUut1)

71 Heads of state agencies in Ohio make $100k+ and get a pretty crazy pension reimbursement once they are vested in the system (15+ years for it to get really good). It's sickening how much Ohio government employees make.

Posted by: Tabris at October 27, 2008 09:57 PM (tFC9w)

72

"Our practice is to basically look at what is coming our way."

Yeah, right.  Could that statement be any lamer? 

Posted by: Twinks at October 27, 2008 10:02 PM (7QUxD)

73 the anger sharks are swimming in my head.

Posted by: e.koenig at October 27, 2008 10:03 PM (2J+Vs)

74 It might be normal to check on a LOTTERY winner - 'cause hey, that person is getting a huge cash windfall; some states even automatically check for back taxes and child-support arrearages before handing over any dough.

But a guy mentioned in passing in a debate? I don't think so.

Posted by: SarahW at October 27, 2008 10:04 PM (7sl9X)

75

Publicly available Ohio campaign finance contributor records show one recorded contribution by J/K: $50 in October 2004 from an address on Old Salem Road in Dayton, to Democrat Dixie Allen, a 10-year statehouse member from Dayton now retired.

FEC records show no federal contributions by her. Open Secrets agrees. 

I say she is on a piece of paper somewhere that the campaign routinely prints for distribution but hardy ever distributes. Fortune favors the bold however. By midweek, this list ...which does and must exist somewhere at their Ohio state HQ...will be minus one endorsement for Obama, that of Helen Jones-Kelly.

Posted by: Mike D. at October 27, 2008 10:05 PM (7B+e2)

76 Remember when Paula Jones got audited? Can we expect that next for our poor Joe?

Posted by: Barry Popik at October 27, 2008 10:05 PM (Bzvar)

77 Screen capture of her two donations.

http://tinyurl.com/5fq7cc

Posted by: 12 at October 27, 2008 10:07 PM (jSYra)

78 $2500 bucks donated to Obama ought to be proof enough of her support.

Posted by: SarahW at October 27, 2008 10:07 PM (7sl9X)

79 Hm. Pretty sure it was almost immediately noted Joe The Plumber had full custody of his son, wasn't it?

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at October 27, 2008 10:10 PM (5j2VI)

80 God, Ohioans must feel so well looked after.

We get serviced in this fine state.  Trust me.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at October 27, 2008 10:11 PM (YNw3K)

81 12 ace ... did you see the new youtube video where BO drops the tax cut from $250K to $200K???? We are all discussing it on the Meghan link.


Posted by: Topsecretk9 at October 27, 2008 10:12 PM (5j2VI)

82 "Our practice is when someone is thrust quickly into the public spotlight, we often take a look" at them, Jones-Kelley said, citing a case where a lottery winner was found to owe past-due child support. "Our practice is to basically look at what is coming our way."

Ahhhh, yes. That one time where a lottery winner owed some money for child support was done to see what's coming so that the office's books could be balanced - "common practice" because it's just sooooo typical. As a matter of fact, getting to question The One is like winning the lottery, right? Naturally it follows that Joe deserves a good roto-rooting because he practically won the lottery.

So where's the Federal Justice Department to look at this since the State level apparatus is obviously derelict?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 27, 2008 10:12 PM (sI5Ho)

83 Here's a link to newsmeat's donation page

http://tinyurl.com/5tqoh8


Posted by: yarrrrr at October 27, 2008 10:18 PM (H3a9i)

84 Remember when Paula Jones got audited?

Remember when Linda Tripp's personnel file was leaked from the Pentagon?  I'm pretty sure the cocksucker that did that has suffered no negative consequences from that.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 27, 2008 10:19 PM (m2sQh)

85 PS, the tip here (which I'm still looking for evidence on) is that Helen Jones-Kelly just happens to be a supporter of Barack Obama.

Helen Jones-Kelly is an OCSEA Union member, OCSEA is a member of the AFL-CIO which endorses Obama-Biden for POTUS.
http://tinyurl.com/4s9co3


Posted by: blackflag at October 27, 2008 10:19 PM (TQGat)

86 #69: Those 20% voted for Strickland because Taft was the most god-awful governor in history. And, honestly, Strickland hasn't been too bad. I mean, Ohio still sucks as far as economy goes, but what can you do? We've got a whole corner of the state that is (along with Detroit and Buffalo) stuck in the 1960's believing that unions will save the day and they'll only be 3 auto makers in the US and that steel will only come from Ohio (and possibly PA).  But yeah, if the republican leadership in Ohio is any less incompetent than McCain's campaign staff and gets that information out there it won't sit well with the large chunk of Ohio that hasn't drank the Kucinich kool-aid.

Posted by: Alex at October 27, 2008 10:24 PM (4siCm)

87

Well their position wouldn't be total bullshit if Joe the Plumber had won the lottery.

Hey, isn't  this woman's donation over the legal limit? I think someone should investigate her.

Posted by: Paula at October 27, 2008 10:25 PM (WYypq)

88 http://www.buckeyeinstitute.org/article/969
COLUMBUS - Eye on the Statehouse has named the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services (ODJFS) its Porker of the Week.  The state agency is seeking to expand Ohio's overburdened Medicaid program. 
Last week, ODJFS Director Helen Jones-Kelly asked the Ohio Senate Finance and Financial Institutions Committee to allow families earning 300 percent of the poverty level to buy into the state's Medicaid program. 

I'll continue the google search.

Posted by: snookered at October 27, 2008 10:25 PM (h3PdB)

89 Excuse me, but isn't that whole 'child support' thingy...you know...Un-Constitutional?

( Ah, ah, ah! If you try to justify that 'child support' thingy, you're an advocate for socialism...and for Big! Bigger! Biggest! Government!!! ...which most of you don't claim to like at all. )

So, the Democrat-socialist PTB in Ohio are using a Big Government Socialist stick to try to beat down a simple American citizen...who merely asked a Big Government Socialist an uncomfortable question. ...which, according to The Constitution, is that American's personal right, and even his responsibility, to begin with.

(Bottom line, people. First causes.)

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at October 27, 2008 10:32 PM (6s/gC)

90 #14

More about Helen Jones-Kelly:

 http://tiny.cc/ceP0w

That's odd, that site didn't show she is a member of the "Charitable" Dayton Foundation. They give a hell of a lot to education..

http://tinyurl.com/5kmfjs

Posted by: Sh at October 27, 2008 10:36 PM (arAyy)

91 And, honestly, Strickland hasn't been too bad.

Eh he hasn't been so great either unless you consider balancing the state budget by letting bars running Keno games a major accomplishment.  Yeah Taft was pretty much a doofus (at least he came off as one but it's always hard to tell what agendas the fishwraps around here are following to get over on the readers) and Strickland came in on the 2006 donk wave.  The jury's still out on him because I think he comes from a part of the state where you have to actually do something for people rather than being an asshole screamer like Kucinich or Sherrod Brown.  There's some evidence that he "gets it" regarding what a cluster fuck state Ahia is in terms of an unbearable set of state and local politburos that bidnesses have to support; whether he's actually gonna do something about it remains to be seen.  There was talk of him being VP for Muffer (despite having been a governor as long as Palin; strangely enough I doubt there would've been the outcry of "no foreign experience") but the insecure Obammy couldn't have a Hillary person as a partner.  I still regard him as a donk tool until I get compelling evidence otherwise.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 27, 2008 10:37 PM (m2sQh)

92 Hey Captain Hate, I'm not gonna fight you on that one! But compared to the other state officials that Ohio has seen thus far, well... I guess it's just slim pickins

Posted by: Alex at October 27, 2008 10:42 PM (4siCm)

93 How does Ohio end up with government like this?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 27, 2008 10:53 PM (0+Ggj)

94 The usual way.

Prosperous state with good industries.

Industries get taken over by union thuggery.

Industries become non-competitive, shut down or move elsewhere.

Unemployed workers become dependent on state handouts to survive.

End result: Socialist Wonderland.

Posted by: Dead Career Sketch at October 27, 2008 11:04 PM (JTN0y)

95 Strickland hasn't really done a whole lot except cut state jobs.  This is not a bad thing per se , I mean he's at least trying to save some money for the state, but he hasn't really done much else.

Posted by: A.J. at October 27, 2008 11:10 PM (fC7B3)

96 Does Ohio have any public sites where you can search a name and find out all their liens, traffic tickets, criminal charges, etc?  Why haven't you morons checked out Helen Jones-Kelly?

(Iowa has one; handy for the class reunion, it was.)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 27, 2008 11:14 PM (DLN6/)

97

Only slightly related...and only by nature of the extent that the cocksuckers will go to embarrass anyone who gets out of line, but I am dreading Palin's release of medical records.

Next thing you know we'll here Chris Matthews talking about her yeast infections and that not so fresh feeling.

They are absolutely shameless.

Posted by: jmflynny at October 27, 2008 11:15 PM (DZl7u)

98

Helen Jones-Kelly was a member of a racist organization in Dayton, OH before she was appointed to the government:  http://tinyurl.com/62jgu4

 

 

Posted by: sparks at October 27, 2008 11:30 PM (eboJu)

99 Ol' Helen wastes her time doing Obama's bidding instead of flushing out some deadbeat parent that hasn't paid child support in 10 years.  Fuckin' guvmint chronies.

Posted by: Ann at October 27, 2008 11:35 PM (c3H+i)

100 O-Hi-O

Fukin' commies - call a spade a spade, eh, Proclaimed One?

Posted by: Drive By Druid at October 27, 2008 11:39 PM (p9EDF)

101 You guys should check out HeatherRadish
's blog.  Pretty funny stuff.  Be sure to read the one about Michelle's dress matching "Aunt Tilly's cat pee sofa". 

hehe.....pretty damn funny

Posted by: Ann at October 27, 2008 11:40 PM (c3H+i)

102 You think the lefties were angry? The country ain't seen nothing yet. The press. The politicians. The seeds a of a deep, broad, intense and long lasting anger are being sown in this election. The unfairness. The abuse of power. All the things that the left has been spouting bullshit about for years is really happening. George W. Bush has never silenced anyone, despite all the cries of NAZI! from the left. Obama has, and will, once he has his mitts on power.

People, it's not hyperbole to say that this election is going to change things all right. It may actually lead to revolution and revolt. And that's not bullshit leftist cant. It's going to be an anger coming from middle America, not fringe moonbat loonies. And Obama and his minions may be going to reap the whirlwind with all this crap. There is going to be a reckoning.

Posted by: ms. docweasel at October 27, 2008 11:41 PM (SOSlE)

103

There is not going to be a popular uprising if Obama is elected. I have been wondering what would happen on right wing blogs if a democrat was elected and I can already see what this is going to become. No civil war, no reckoning.

I think it is hilarious that people went through here and decided I was the one suffering from mental illness.   

Posted by: bleh at October 27, 2008 11:57 PM (GNCy6)

104 bleh take your meds.

Posted by: nikkolai at October 28, 2008 12:04 AM (G8d+5)

105 That's okay, here $2300 may have gone to Barry, but her actions and the newly unearth Barry top just bought Joe a campaign tour in Ohio.

Joe's hitting the road, tomorrow.

Ohio goes to McCain.

Posted by: Editor at October 28, 2008 12:11 AM (p4YSL)

106 It's like I'm taking crazy pills.

And if the f'ing RNC had a pair they would hire some serious attorneys and start getting some well deserved lawsuits going.



Posted by: just an average joe at October 28, 2008 12:11 AM (X1fsj)

107 dang - that was one bad post by yours truly.

here = her

top = tape

Posted by: Editor at October 28, 2008 12:12 AM (p4YSL)

108 She should be in prison.

Posted by: Christoph at October 28, 2008 12:12 AM (hawOV)

109 Who that dude you got a picture of there?
K

Posted by: Kestrel♠ at October 28, 2008 12:14 AM (9DCvJ)

110 Um, Is the U.S. Constitution just a figment of my imagination? Was James Madison a real person?

Posted by: Ginger at October 28, 2008 12:19 AM (qSqPf)

111 not in the closet again, mommy! please!!!

Posted by: diderot's dog at October 28, 2008 12:20 AM (nrD02)

112 Where's her Obama button?

Fucking corrupt political hack. This is a real scandal, not like those phony generated scandals such as ValerieFlamegate and Gonzales firing his shitty hack  subordinates.

Posted by: Bart at October 28, 2008 12:20 AM (wIDgz)

113

I'll give you an even money bet that it wasn't even her money... she was just funneling for Soros.

CC

Posted by: CapedConservative at October 28, 2008 12:22 AM (4qQEC)

114  The opensecrets link has two donations from her to Obama, one for $2300 and one for $200.  Doesn't that put her over the limit?

Posted by: cameo at October 28, 2008 12:22 AM (JGIp7)

115 and she's of colour too...imagine that.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 28, 2008 12:23 AM (X7Ey1)

116 Wow - what a bee-yoch!

All,

Dick Morris made a good point tonight on Hannity and Colmes. Mac is running attacks ads with Joe the plumber over this past weekend and we have seen obambi’s numbers slip. He pointed out that this was the result of the saturation level that had the average viewer seeing the ad at least 10 times. He said this was hitting obambi with a hard left, now it is time to hit him with a hard right using the Reverend Wright issue.

A 527 called the National Republican Trust has an ad they are readying for the swing states. I just donated $100 and I want to encourage everyone else to do the same. Rush was on Greta afterwards and seemed to think that it would really help. Since Mac won’t do it himself lets help drag him over the finish line. I am posting this on multiple thread - sorry for the redundancy but I don’t want the lil’ messiah to win.

Here is the website: http://nationalrepublicantrust.com/

One week people!


Posted by: Major Graham at October 28, 2008 12:23 AM (qGn4/)

117 Now lemme get this right:

I ask a politician a question on camera and people in Ohio government can run background checks on me. How nice.

Glad that I don't live in Ohio. Very, VERY GLAD!

Posted by: kim in vancouver at October 28, 2008 12:25 AM (qYk+w)

118 Why did the chicken cross the road?

Because of something about Sarah Palin's clothes or something. Hahahahah!!! Oh, my I am so pretty and lovely and I do like flowers in my hair.

Posted by: diderot's dog at October 28, 2008 12:25 AM (nrD02)

119 The donation is limit is effectively $4600. Up to $2300 can be given for the primary period (up until the acceptance of the nomination) and another $2300 can be given for the general election period.

Posted by: Elliott at October 28, 2008 12:26 AM (paFpY)

120 Cameo, they'll say one was for the primary, the other for the general.

Posted by: Al at October 28, 2008 12:26 AM (Lk931)

121 If the next person to comment is named Bart, I'll voluntarily tongue wash his nutsack.

Posted by: diderot's dog at October 28, 2008 12:26 AM (nrD02)

122

Also, find out how many people are registered to vote at her home address.

Posted by: Bart at October 28, 2008 12:27 AM (wIDgz)

123 Could her endorsement of Obama (and obvious dirt digging on his behalf) violate the Hatch act?

Posted by: cameo at October 28, 2008 12:27 AM (JGIp7)

124 Um, stupid question time...Isn't the maximum dollar amount allowed to be contributed by an individual in an election to a particular candidate $2300?

And if that's the case, why did Helen Jones-Kelley contribute $2300 and $200 on the same day to Barack Obama?  Am I missing something here?

Posted by: Alice H at October 28, 2008 12:27 AM (jRtPb)

125 DEMOCRAT Helen Jones-Kelley abused her government position to violate Joe the Plumber's privacy.  She won't step down--that means if you live in Ohio, she can do the same thing to you, next.

DEMOCRAT Governor Ted Strickland says this is perfectly fine--that means if you live in Ohio, anyone in his administration can do the same thing to you, next.

DEMOCRAT Barack Obama won't lift a finger to stop these attacks on Joe the Plumber by his own supporters, including prominent DEMOCRAT government officials like Helen Jones-Kelley and Governor Ted Strickland.  That means he' he'll do the same thing YOU, next, no matter where you live.

DEMOCRATS: Just not right for America.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at October 28, 2008 12:27 AM (YvLui)

126

#17...EXACTLY...let's see list of actual residents they have "often take(n) a look at" with dates and reasons. 

Wanna bet ol Joe isn't the first to be...what is that word...can't quite remember...PROFILED.

 

Posted by: The Hammer at October 28, 2008 12:28 AM (P89vv)

127 wait, is practice the same as a policy?

Posted by: joeindc44 at October 28, 2008 12:29 AM (yrMek)

128 This story is nothing. That's why I'm going to comment 2,343 times on it in this thread.

Posted by: diderot's dog at October 28, 2008 12:31 AM (nrD02)

129 That.Is.A.Fucking.Man.  There's your dirt.

Posted by: perineumpirate at October 28, 2008 12:32 AM (rKSJ1)

130 But don't worry everybody, she won't be disciplined by her superiors with anything harsher than a disapproving look that fades quickly into a smile, a wink, then mutual laughter.

*Fist Bump*

Posted by: I'm into Stitches at October 28, 2008 12:33 AM (KyqYb)

131

But does she have any nipples?  I can't tell.

Priorities people, get your fucking priorities straight.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at October 28, 2008 12:33 AM (bSdbt)

132

I live in Ohio, and I once stepped into "the public light" by being quoted in a Cleveland newspaper while at cheerleading camp.

Does that mean Ms. Helen Jones-Kelley is watching me, and knows that I ate candy instead of dinner tonight, and then ice cream for dessert?

I say we put her on FNC against Megyn Kelly.  Kelly v. Kelley.  Megyn will hand Helen her ass.

Posted by: Nicole at October 28, 2008 12:36 AM (3txVD)

133

Oh my gosh,  I saw her photo and thought to myself, Gee I wonder who she is voting for... Then I thought. they need to fire her Black ass!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Bj at October 28, 2008 12:36 AM (jvfVt)

134 Affirmative Action hire?

It would be good to know her grades, her criminal record (if any), her tax liens (if any), her personal details (marriage, divorce, children, if any), her prescription drugs (if any, the way tabloids pawed through the trash of actress Mary-Louise Parker to find out her details), and anything and everything else.

This also, smacks of racism. A White man asks "the One" a question, and Black officials paw through his private records in violation of the law?

That to me screams racism.

But hey, she's Black, so therefore can violate the law with impunity. Good to know, laws don't apply to Black officials.

Posted by: whiskey at October 28, 2008 12:38 AM (4878o)

135 Forget the Patriot Act ... when Barack Obama's passport records were "accessed" ... he called for BLOOD!  Even though his records were accessed along with Hillary's and McCain's at the same time.  And the access of his records seems to have been done by some low-level contract employees working for the State Department - who no doubt have been fired.

What about this lady?  Will she be fired?

Also ... if this is a "routine" access perhaps she can provide other evidence of the "routine"?

Routine my ass.

Posted by: HondaV65 at October 28, 2008 12:39 AM (08/AR)

136 She was a co-defendant in a lawsuit against Ohio "for Noncompliance with Federal Voter Registration Law".

Posted by: Benson at October 28, 2008 12:40 AM (qzcNU)

137 "Our practice is to basically look at what is coming our way."

My favorite quote, and Sooo innocent, to boot.

Posted by: I'm into Stitches at October 28, 2008 12:43 AM (KyqYb)

138 You know who's a really butch gay dude I'd like to have sex with? Richard Simmons, that's who.

Posted by: diderot's dog at October 28, 2008 12:44 AM (nrD02)

139 diderot's dog.......

Whine much?   (get it....dog, whine....)

Posted by: mrclark at October 28, 2008 12:46 AM (7nBhd)

Posted by: Christoph at October 28, 2008 12:46 AM (hawOV)

141 "Posted by: Benson at October 28, 2008 12:40 AM (qzcNU)"

She should be in prison.

Posted by: Christoph at October 28, 2008 12:47 AM (hawOV)

142 WHEW!

I just had a panic that I'd accidentally written "multi-tusker" rather than "multi-tasker" in 138.

Lucky for me, because otherwise the entire bag of Tools would be all over me about trying to bring back the Lipstuck Pig thing.

So I'm relieved.

Really.

Posted by: diderot's dog at October 28, 2008 12:47 AM (nrD02)

143 sorry diderot's dog....  haven't been here much lately.

Posted by: mrclark at October 28, 2008 12:48 AM (7nBhd)

144

 

Alert via ABC Blog

Joe the Plumber is going to join the mccain campaign

 

ABC News' Bret Hovell reports: Joe Wurzelbacher, aka “Joe the Plumber,” will campaign tomorrow in Ohio for Senator John McCain.

Wurzelbacher, the Toledo-area native, will go on a bus tour with former Rep. Rob Portman, a close McCain supporter, and a number of small business people.

It will be the first time Wurzelbacher has been out to campaign for the McCain ticket since he approached Barack Obama some weeks back to ask about Obama’s tax policy, and became a part of McCain’s stump speech.

McCain, and his running mate Sarah Palin, have made “Joe the Plumber” a central part of their campaign, mentioning him at nearly every stop as a way of illustrating how, they argue, Barack Obama’s tax plans will affect average Americans.

Posted by: Cromagnum at October 28, 2008 12:49 AM (j5MnB)

145 To mrclark @ 139 -

Oh. How droll! I just never would have seen that one coming.

Posted by: diderot's dog at October 28, 2008 12:49 AM (nrD02)

146 She looks like such a nice person, too.

Posted by: katya at October 28, 2008 12:52 AM (G3frc)

147 So does her staff comb through every weekly shopper in Ohio, checking the support status of everybody named there-in?

We have always been at war with East Asia.


Posted by: Fox2! at October 28, 2008 12:52 AM (nTLxP)

148 If I eat all my veggies, mom says I can have an enema

Posted by: diderot's dog at October 28, 2008 12:52 AM (nrD02)

149 Good find Benson

What's with Ohio? Are they trying to compete with Illinois for most sleazy political environment?

Posted by: d at October 28, 2008 12:54 AM (a/oUA)

150 Any of you guys into ass to mouth?  Just wondering, because I feel like I know some of you pretty well and all.  So just come over to my blog and let me know.

Posted by: diderot's dog at October 28, 2008 12:55 AM (9DCvJ)

151 asdifjeonj!!!!

Posted by: diderot's dog at October 28, 2008 12:56 AM (nrD02)

152 Another steaming pile from an OBOT. I don't believe for a NY second that they just check anyone who's name comes up in the news.

But the joke is on her, and all the useful idiots who convinced Obama he will win. Because he will lose, and perhaps lose big. And as I'm up drinking beer all night watching election returns I'll be laughing my bitter white hag ass off.

I've seen around the net that there is at least one other bomb to be dropped on the plastic messiah, and that it might well be dropped tomorrow (or later today for those to the east of me).

Posted by: Kate at October 28, 2008 12:57 AM (aOS9w)

153 I thought that was a picture of Gwen Ifill.

Posted by: cbharmon at October 28, 2008 12:57 AM (+7CmB)

154 I'd hit that. 


/with a law suit.

Posted by: Fritz at October 28, 2008 12:58 AM (UU4Hu)

155 I know what I'm talking about because I once hallucinated about being a constitutional scholar after being overwhelmed by the pain of having shoved a bowling ball up my ass.

Posted by: diderot's dog at October 28, 2008 12:59 AM (nrD02)

156 She serves on the board of the Dayton Foundation.


Posted by: Benson at October 28, 2008 12:59 AM (qzcNU)

157

cbharmon at October 28, 2008 12:57 AM (+7CmB)

I thought that was a picture of Gwen Ifill. 

Yeah ,, maybe a sister or cousin

Same high class standards

Posted by: Cromagnum at October 28, 2008 01:00 AM (j5MnB)

158

"I thought that was a picture of Gwen Ifill."

 

I did, too. 

Posted by: Nicole at October 28, 2008 01:00 AM (3txVD)

159 Yup, here i am up in Canada.

So...uh.... I guess I'll go rub some snow on my balls.

Posted by: diderot's dog at October 28, 2008 01:01 AM (nrD02)

160 I touch myself when watching Olympic wrestling.

Posted by: diderot's dog at October 28, 2008 01:04 AM (nrD02)

161 Jones-Kelley sure seems awfully selective about dealing with press inquiries about people in her agency's database.

In 2008 "amid questions from the media" she searches her records for information on Joe Wurzelbacher.... just "amid questions"... you know... just the stuff she's heard on TV and such.

Funny, Jones-Kelley hasn't always been so cavalier about "questions from the media".

In 2006 Jones-Kelley resisted a formal public records request from the Cincinnati Enquirer, who then filed suit.

 The Supreme Court of Ohio ruled against her earlier this year in a 7-0 decision.

SO JUST TWO YEARS AGO, JONES-KELLEY WENT TO THE MAT WITH THE MEDIA -- LITERALLY GOING TO COURT TO DEFEND THE CONFIDENTIALITY OF HER AGENCY'S RECORDS AGAINST A FORMAL PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST -- ON GROUNDS OF PRIVACY.

But now she says it's routine for her to go digging through records simply "amid questions from the media" 

Oh, "and others."

You know, Barry's got a great telephone voice.  It'll melt butter.

Posted by: The Guvnah at October 28, 2008 01:06 AM (+ndb4)

162  Hatch act???

 Hatch Act Unit
U.S. Office of Special Counsel
1730 M Street, N.W., Suite 201
Washington, DC 20036-4505.

 From what I read on the gov. site...it appears that we can all file complaints against this partisan tool........

 Google it

Posted by: christmasghost at October 28, 2008 01:08 AM (aUut1)

163 I'm so excited by all this KGB stuff that my nipples are erect. Finally I can get back at all you bullies who laughed at me in high school.

Posted by: diderot's dog at October 28, 2008 01:08 AM (nrD02)

164 I wish I had the skills and access to do the same thing to her. I would definitely be on the case. Big Brother indeed!

Posted by: kat at October 28, 2008 01:09 AM (S7Xpi)

165 What a fucking shock, huh?

I didn't even bother looking because I knew it was a given.

I'm sure one of the FIRST things reported about JTP was that he was in full custody of his son.

But really, did they pull up the custody records on all those Obama staff implanted in OHIO voting knowing they were violating the residency laws?

Because they were in the news.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at October 28, 2008 01:09 AM (5j2VI)

166 My IQ=74

Posted by: diderot's dog at October 28, 2008 01:10 AM (nrD02)

167 So, Kate (152). Are you going to know what it is?

Posted by: incognito at October 28, 2008 01:12 AM (Rpam5)

168

This is just weird; you'd think these people would be dying to provide voter registration services at state aid agencies:

The law very clearly makes it the state's responsibility to provide the opportunity to register to vote at public assistance offices. It assigns responsibility to ensure compliance to the state's "chief election officer," which in Ohio is Secretary Brunner, and obliges state public assistance agencies, like Ohio's Department of Job and Family Services, to provide voter registration services as part of their program duties.

In response to evidence that Ohio has blatantly disregarded this aspect of the NVRA, state officials have said, 'Not my problem.' In court today, both Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner and Helen Jones-Kelley, Director of the DJFS, tried to deflect responsibility to local officials around the state rather than using their own powers, authority, and resources to fix the widespread systemic statewide problems. Brunner's counsel even went so far as to say that, if the Secretary were to be held responsible to ensure compliance, the NVRA would be a 'burden' to the office. It is inconceivable that there is no state official with the power to ensure the state's compliance with state responsibilities.

God forbid that the performance of your job duties should become a burden. These have got to count among the laziest government officials in the country.

Posted by: Paula at October 28, 2008 01:13 AM (WYypq)

169 No kidding, topsecret. Buy then again, why would they?

Posted by: incognito at October 28, 2008 01:14 AM (Rpam5)

170 "Dig up dirt" on her?

Seriously?

Dude, what additional dirt do you think you could find on this woman that would conceivably top the Orwellian abuse-of-state-power shit she's already cheerfully admitted?

Unless she's got a stack of cub scout cadavers rotting her crawl space, this is pretty much gonna make anything else in her past look like an overdue library book.

Posted by: iowahawk at October 28, 2008 01:23 AM (QciN0)

171

It's sad - even in this thread you can see how Strickland has successfully brainwashed Republicans in Ohio into supporting him. He's turning into one of the worst governors in Ohio history, overseeing a historic decline in the state, and his answer is to create $125k/year positions for Republicans legislators to bribe them to drop out of tough legislative races so he can take over the state House of Representatives. Then he can pass more revisions to prevailing wage laws to funnel more dough to his union goons.

And around 20% of Republicans think this is awesome because they hated Ken Blackwell or something. It's really frustrating.

Anyone who is pissed at Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner for her objectively pro voter fraud stance should be equally pissed at Governor Strickland for endorsing and supporting her.

Posted by: Tabris at October 28, 2008 01:28 AM (SZynM)

172

Off Topic, but see below - Next shoe to drop on redistribution...Obama went to a forum in 96 sponsored by ---- guess who? Socialists.  And he allegedly implied more redistribution stuff there.

 

Well here he goes again… with that redistribution word. Chicago DSA (Democratic Socialists of America) in April 1996.

The state government can also play a role in redistribution, the allocation of wages and jobs.

 

Here's the full article, avaialbe on chicagodsa

A Town Meeting on Economic Insecurity: Employment and Survival in Urban America

By Bob Roman

Over three hundred people attended the first of two Town Meetings on Economic Insecurity on February 25 in Ida Noyes Hall at the University of Chicago. Entitled "Employment and Survival in Urban America", the meeting was sponsored by the UofC DSA Youth Section, Chicago DSA and University Democrats. The panelists were Toni Preckwinkle, Alderman of Chicago's 4th Ward; Barack Obama, candidate for the 13th Illinois Senate District; Professor William Julius Wilson, Center for the Study of Urban Inequality at the University of Chicago; Professor Michael Dawson, University of Chicago; and Professor Joseph Schwartz, Temple University and a member of DSA's National Political Committee.

The meeting demonstrated that economic insecurity is an issue not exclusive to Buchanan Republicans. It is a vital issue for the left as well. More than that, it illustrated that, unlike the Right, the democratic left has a number of potential solutions that go beyond mere demagoguery.

Alderman Preckwinkle began the discussion by observing that the Chicago City Council rarely takes up the great issues facing the city even when it is presented with legislation dealing with these issues. Hearings are not held. Legislation rarely makes it out of committee.

As examples, she used Alderman Joe Moore's (49th) Privatization Ordinance which was introduced last year and the Jobs and Living Wage Ordinance which will be formally introduced in the Council very soon.

The Privatization Ordinance (see January - February, 1995, New Ground, page 1) was a modest effort to regulate the manner in which city services were privatized. It would have made the process accountable and made sure savings were not accomplished at the expense of employees. The measure was consigned to oblivion in committee. While a majority of the Council "supported" the ordinance, an attempt to release it from committee failed for lack of votes.

The Jobs and Living Wage Ordinance (see January - February, 1996, New Ground, page 10) is a more ambitious attempt to require city contractors to pay a minimum living wage. The measure will be formally introduced into the Council in April or May. Alderman Preckwinkle was not optimistic about its prospects although the presence of the Democratic National Convention may provide some opportunities for better leverage.

Barack Obama observed that Martin Luther King's March on Washington in the 1960s wasn't simply about civil rights but demanded jobs as well. Now the issue is again coming to the front, but he wished the issue was on the Democratic agenda not just on Buchanan's.

One of the themes that has emerged in Barack Obama's campaign is "what does it take to create productive communities", not just consumptive communities. It is an issue that joins some of the best instincts of the conservatives with the better instincts of the left. He felt the state government has three constructive roles to play.

The first is "human capital development". By this he meant public education, welfare reform, and a "workforce preparation strategy". Public education requires equality in funding. It's not that money is the only solution to public education's problems but it's a start toward a solution. The current proposals for welfare reform are intended to eliminate welfare but it's also true that the status quo is not tenable. A true welfare system would provide for medical care, child care and job training. While Barack Obama did not use this term, it sounded very much like the "social wage" approach used by many social democratic labor parties. By "workforce preparation strategy", Barack Obama simply meant a coordinated, purposeful program of job training instead of the ad hoc, fragmented approach used by the State of Illinois today.

The state government can also play a role in redistribution, the allocation of wages and jobs. As Barack Obama noted, when someone gets paid $10 million to eliminate 4,000 jobs, the voters in his district know this is an issue of power not economics. The government can use as tools labor law reform, public works and contracts.

Finally, Illinois needs an industrial strategy. How do we create more jobs for everyone? Illinois has no strategy for encouraging high wage, high productivity jobs.

Professor Wilson's presentation was based on his forthcoming book, When Work Disappears: the World of the New Urban Poor. William Julius Wilson began by demanding that the left not be intimidated by the Contract on America and how it has limited the terms of the debate. What we need, he asserted, was a jobs policy based roughly on the New Deal's WPA. The work would concentrate on badly needed infrastructure maintenance and improvement. It would be a universal program; the jobs would be available to everyone, "including Donald Trump" if he chose to do some useful work for a change. These would be new jobs. State and local government would not be allowed to subsidize their own budgets the way they did with CETA in the 1970s.

Professor Dawson spoke on how critical the issues facing this country have become. Not only have the problems themselves become severe, but the politics resulting from them have become a danger to freedom and democracy.

DSA member Joe Schwartz brought the presentations to a rousing close. He observed that any politics of the democratic left needs to confront racism. There is no way we can finesse the issue by simply organizing around universal programs; we need to build a new politics of social solidarity. He concluded by pointing out that all of the proposals given tonight, even the most modest, will be red-baited. We must grow up and be forthright about how social democracy / democratic socialism has made the life of working people better the world over.

Which is exactly our point.

Posted by: geoff at October 28, 2008 01:29 AM (zEGWh)

173 In case you were wondering what Diderot's Dog is talking about, it's not Dale Earnhardt Junior who endorsed Obama, but Junior Johnson.  I don't think it will have even a tiny effect.  Those who remember Johnson are hard core white bread gun owning veteran loving Americans who think John Mccain is too liberal.

Now, Dale Jr. is just too commercially savvy to endorse anybody (least of all a liberal), I'd think, but Rick Hendrick, his employer, was pardoned by Bill Clinton for fucking over a lot of innocent Honda dealership owners.... in exchange for library donations.  Dale Earnhardt Sr. was a well known friend of the Bush family, but Jr. did take a bunch of friends to a Michael Moore movie.  All in all, anyone who is impressed by celebrity endorsements and shiny things already has all they need to like Obama.  The undecideds are not waiting for a celebrity endorsement... they are worried that Bush's policies might have caused the economic disaster, probably take issue with the war, and have some sense of anxiety over electing a jackass like Obama. 

Posted by: Shill at October 28, 2008 01:30 AM (8jYMc)

174

IF as she states this is SOP..

Why did it takes weeks and an investigation for her to admit she was the one who approved the records search?

Posted by: tahoejoe at October 28, 2008 01:31 AM (lbB81)

175 I think it would be prudent to have her background checked by Job and Family Services, the BMV and the Toledo Police Department.

You never know. She may owe child support or back taxes.

Posted by: csdeven at October 28, 2008 01:31 AM (8cxzy)

176

Gird your loins.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud at October 28, 2008 01:32 AM (nOQXA)

177 How about an open thread on which of today's endorsements helped which candidate the most: [a] Joe [not Joe] the Plumber [not a plumber] for McCain, or [b] Junior the NASCAR Driving Legend for Obama. You're not real familiar with NASCAR are you dipshit dog? Junior (and that would be Junior Johnson, not Dale Jr. as dipshit dog was obviously trying to mislead people into thinking) has always been a democrat. If he had said he was voting McCain, people may have taken notice. As it is, he's voting for who everyone thought he'd vote for so no one cares. But there's another Johnson in NASCAR who's on the verge of winning the Sprint Cup this year and guess who he's voting for.

Posted by: koopy at October 28, 2008 01:36 AM (bL4cA)

178 There is probably a huge lawsuit here for Joe the Plumber against the state for invasion of privacy and sharing the information with all those journalists.

Posted by: incredulous at October 28, 2008 01:37 AM (zplc6)

179 #176.  I'm embarrassed to say that I don't know what that phrase means.

Anyone care to explain it?  TIA

Posted by: incredulous at October 28, 2008 01:38 AM (zplc6)

180 Wouldn't it be hilarious if Joe sued the state and used the winnings to start a plumbing business?  Now that's what I call redistribution!

Poor guy deserves something.  He's handled himself well.  Imagine if this was a democrat, and Mccain's lackeys were attacking his privacy like this... for merely asking a fair question.  How many times does Palin, Bush or Mccain get asked a question ten times harder than what Joe asked?  100 times a day?

Posted by: Shill at October 28, 2008 01:39 AM (8jYMc)

181

Absolutely sue her ass!, her department, and the state of ohio. 

The constitution strictly forbids that violation.   Any attorneys out there willing to take the case?

 

 

Posted by: mike schnezler at October 28, 2008 01:42 AM (Kikck)

182 The left hasn't just hit bottom, they haven't just started digging, they've broken out the jackhammers.

If a large number of these lying, cheating, power-abusing jackasses, including Jones-Kelley, aren't out of work next year, then the Democrats will have succeeded in BREAKING our government... it will take decades to fix it, optimistically.

If we can take the opportunity of the publicity to get started now, it won't have to take so long.

Oh, and Jones-Kelley is a repulsive bitch. For the quota.

Posted by: Merovign at October 28, 2008 01:43 AM (UXoQt)

183 #176. I'm embarrassed to say that I don't know what that phrase means. Anyone care to explain it? TIA It's from the Biden/Murtha SNL skit if i remember right, they had Biden say "gird your loins" when talking about the crisis an Obama presidency would produce.

Posted by: koopy at October 28, 2008 01:44 AM (bL4cA)

184 180 Wouldn't it be hilarious if Joe sued the state and used the winnings to start a plumbing business?  Now that's what I call redistribution!

The right thing to do would find out everyone who was involved and bring civil cases against them personally.  Find a Conservative Think Tank to take the case pro bono and scare the shit out of them.  Also, PROSECUTE!!!

Suing the state is essentially suing yourself, and costs tax payers gobs of money.  It would be hypocritical.  I do not encourage Conservatives to sue (for monetary damages) their governments.

Posted by: Editor at October 28, 2008 01:46 AM (p4YSL)

185 incognito at October 28, 2008 01:12 AM

The "last punch", as the source put it, was less specific but had to do with "inappropriate" statements made by either O or his bitter half-I assume there is a video/audio of that. I'm sure everyone here knows of a potential racist rant by MO that was caught on tape. I saw on yet another (PUMA) blog, some time ago, that the tape does exist. It was the only source out there that convinced me that it is out there. The other 2 mentioned are about Obama's socialist beliefs (the NPR audio), and the one the LA times is sitting on (Obama praising Palestinian “freedom fighter” Rhahid Khalidi at a 2003 Chicago dinner). http://tinyurl.com/hillbuzz

The claim about tomorrow being a "bomb" day was made by a contributor to http://tinyurl.com/realbarackobama


Posted by: Kate at October 28, 2008 01:49 AM (aOS9w)

186 It's from the Biden/Murtha SNL skit if i remember right, they had Biden say "gird your loins" when talking about the crisis an Obama presidency would produce.

But they got it from the actual Biden quote.

What it means is "be prepared".  And what they mean is be prepared to bend over and take it like a patriotic comrade.

Posted by: Editor at October 28, 2008 01:50 AM (p4YSL)

187  

Senator Barack Obama cObama’s World View Sees U.S. Comparable to Hitler’s Germanyompared post-World War II America with Hitler’s Nazi Germany in a 2001 discussion of the lead-up to the Supreme Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education (1954). While Jim Crow and all that went with segregation of African-Americans is a bloody stain on our national history, comparing it to the genocidal Holocaust of the Nazis shows incredible disrespect to the United States and a complete lack of historical understanding and context.

The apparent focus of the discussion was the balance between the how far the Supreme Court would intervene and the content of the court’s decisions.

The conversation started out with The Court before the 14th Amendment and worked forward. Picking up with World War II…

 

Obama:

One of the things that should be pointed out is that first the NAACP mounts systematic thoughtful strategy to lay bare the contradictions that are embodied in the doctrines and ideological structures that the court is working with.

The second thing is that just to take a realistic perspective is that there is a lot of change going on outside of the court that you know the judges, you know have to take judicial notice of.

I mean you have got WWII you have got the doctrines of Nazism that we are fighting against that start to look uncomfortably similar to what is going on back here at home. You have got African-Americans that are returning home from the war with certain expectations—why is it that I am not in uniform and yet am denied more freedom here that I was in France or Italy?

And so you have a whole host of social conditions that are, you know, the court inevitably is influenced by and I think it is important for us to realize that although Brown may be one of those rare circumstances where the court is willing to get slightly beyond conventional opinion and sort of stake a place beyond the sort of political mainstream.

Helfrich asked about conventional social opinion.

Obama:

Social opinion. But that’s very rare and even in the case of Brown I think that there were a lot of social changes attitudinal changes of the sort that Dennis [Hutchinson] was talking about in terms of the difference between social equality and political equality. A lot of that baggage has to be eliminated before you see the Supreme Court, before you see the Supreme Court venture out the way it did.

The context doesn’t mitigate the offensive comparison that Obama made. It is even more difficult to reconcile as Obama has made such a deal during the campaign of conversations he had with his grandfather who served in World War II and was among the concentration camp liberators. Again, to contemporaneously compare the history of African-Americans in the U.S. to the Nazi Germany is so outrageous as to be offensive.

But, consider that January 2001 was just five years after Minister Louis Farrakhan’s Million Man March that Barack Obama and Reverend Wright helped organize. Just the previous year, Nation of Islam leader Minister Farrakhan was reported in the  saying “that although the Holocaust was wrong, blacks had suffered “100 times worse” than the Jews.” For Minister Farrakhan, this was the American Holocaust of African Enslavement. In this context, it is not surprising that Barack Obama who worked with Minister Farrakhan and shared mutual friends, himself chose to make the comparison of Nazi Germany to the United States.

My point here is not to debate whether Jim Crow and segregation is comparable with the Nazi’s and the Holocaust. Both were bad, both should never be forgotten. But contemporaneously comparable they are not. More than 11,000,000 people died at the hands of the Nazis between 1933 and 1945.

Special thanks to reader Geoff who provided the tip to the audio clip.

Posted by: geoff at October 28, 2008 01:50 AM (zEGWh)

188

On the contrary,   it is the best form of WEALTH RE-DISTRIBUTION

From each according to their ability (state of ohio)  to those according to their need (joe's new plumbing business)

Oh, and demand that people get fired, most notably,  that affirmative action head of the department!

 

 

Posted by: mike schnezler at October 28, 2008 01:51 AM (Kikck)

189
SO JUST TWO YEARS AGO, JONES-KELLEY WENT TO THE MAT WITH THE MEDIA -- LITERALLY GOING TO COURT TO DEFEND THE CONFIDENTIALITY OF HER AGENCY'S RECORDS AGAINST A FORMAL PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST -- ON GROUNDS OF PRIVACY.


to be defiled exploited by and for democrats.

Anyone else thinking the lefts' FISA reservations might have ben subterfuge projection?

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at October 28, 2008 01:52 AM (5j2VI)

190 Ace , if your really looking to hammer Ohio , look me up I have some eye raising info for you. 
Hint:
Google ,
 "Tribal questions a matter for dollars" 

Posted by: DTMF at October 28, 2008 01:56 AM (i6aby)

191

Wake up people.  There is a culture war going on in this country!

Race relations will be set back 15 years over this election cycle.!

Posted by: guess who at October 28, 2008 01:57 AM (Kikck)

192 I think the Dems only gave lip service to FISA "reservations". They only want it if they are in power. Don't forget Obama voted for it. And he did that so he could do what the left delighted in accusing Bush of doing. HRC, otoh, voted against it.

I voted for McCain in the 2000 primary, for GWB in 04, and a straight R ticket last Thursday. I'm not one to ever vote a straight ticket, but the Dems are pure poison as they line up behind their dear leader. I won't vote for anyone with a D after their name for the forseeable future.

Posted by: Kate at October 28, 2008 01:59 AM (aOS9w)

193 Guess @ 191

15 years? Try 50. And it's all thanks to Obama's race/class war campaign. Post-racial/hopey/changey/new my ass.

Posted by: Kate at October 28, 2008 02:01 AM (aOS9w)

194 Yeah, but Kate, Junior Johnson's really thought it through and is voting for Obama.

JUNIOR JOHNSON!!!!! 

Posted by: Editor at October 28, 2008 02:01 AM (p4YSL)

195 Whoopee for Junior, Editor. He'll probably be another obot who doesn't bother to actually vote.

Posted by: Kate at October 28, 2008 02:03 AM (aOS9w)

196 Editor, it's not really about the money when I say Joe should sue his state.  I'm sure the employees within the state would be afforded some protections from suit, though he should also pursue them if he can.

Suing the state puts the executive in the position of explaining to the taxpayers why he was unable to keep his government from committing expensive crimes.  And it's not like they weren't going to spend every last penny on bullshit anyway.  You're right that it's wrong at some level to take money from the public funds for your own use, it's the public, every taxpayer and voter, who tolerate the leadership of democrats, who are absolutely responsible for what has happened to Joe.  Just as every democrat voter this year will be responsible in part for what Obama does and how I am responsible in part for what Bush has done (I'm proud, mostly). 

This didn't happen in a vacuum.  Ohio makes no secret of its corruption.  The governor should have started dealing with these slimeballs swiftly, and the voters should have recalled him when he didn't.  Their Secretary of State is even worse than this lady.  So it's fair game to sue, and show the people that crimes have consequences.

Posted by: Shill at October 28, 2008 02:05 AM (8jYMc)

197 and editor, it's not like Joe couldn't settle for non monetary action of some kind.  An official apology and termination of everyone aware of this crime, etc.

Your solution is still better than mine... if prosecution can occur.

Posted by: Shill at October 28, 2008 02:06 AM (8jYMc)

198 Current record search on Jones-Kelley, Helen, at opensecret.org, shows her as contributing $2300 (the max) AND $200, for a grand total of $2500...

Posted by: Margaret at October 28, 2008 02:16 AM (38b8m)

199

I was in the Marine Corps, I know, GTFOOH and all that shit,  But while I was in, I was the platoon clerk, within certain platoons, the commanders prefered picking people with Security MOS's, because Clerks deal with a lot of classified info.

I had the highest Clerance that didn't belong to my PltCom, and other people with my MOS (one other person) and I was also Plt Clerk, so I answered the phone.

"This is Cpt.(blah) and I  need some information on Cpl(blah)"

"What information is that sir?"

"He's being reviewed for an informal reward, so to create the award I need his address, full name, and social security number."

"no sir, however if you . . . "
"I don't think you heard me LCpl.. . . "

"Yes I did sir, if you come by and pick up the information, or maybe my commander can send the information. . . . "

"NOW LCpl."

"Sir? If you know my rank and position so easy, you have access, why don't you have acess to his information, sir?"

"Don't question me! LCpl!!!"

"Sir, I can't, now if you wish to talk to my commander. . . "

"YES GIVE ME YOUR COMMANDER LCPL!!!"

"Yes sir, just a moment."

*hold*

"TOP!!!!!" I yelled into the air.

"Pinto?"

"A captain is asking to yell at you."

"why?"

"I did my job."

"Okay, but make him wait."

*off hold*

"Yes sir, he's just now coming back to his office."

"Let him know I am disappointed with your performance."

"I think that is your job sir, Oh, here he is, just a second."

My plt comm vilated comsec, I never would have, would have taken less time to transport files than it took for this dick captain to measure his dick on the phone.

"If you are asked again, don't ignore your instincts, just find me right away."

"Yes sir."

"SO HELP ME PINTO YOU CALL ME SIR AGAIN!!!"

My PltComm's were all enlisted Senior SNCO's.

BTW, My Clearence, (other then when it was "suspended," even though it wasn't actually suspended) was always higher than my bosses.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 28, 2008 02:17 AM (ul7te)

200

Sorry,

My point?

Peoples information belongs to the person.

If I gave out the SSN of any service member over the phone, I might very well have lost my clearance.

While in oki, with our sorta kinda but not really invasion of cambodia, if I had even said the word cambodia over the phone, I would have lost my clearance, and my MOS and I would have processed out.

NO!

Small things, are big things, when it comes to privacy, and to clearances.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 28, 2008 02:21 AM (ul7te)

201 Yes, and voting for these idiots also have consequences. I hope the idiot taxpayers who allow this government in Ohio lose millions of dollars in fees, fines and penalties. Maybe the next election they won't vote in a bunch of criminal clowns imported from some banana republic. Break their government so they can do no harm.

Posted by: Ray at October 28, 2008 02:23 AM (ix3FU)

202

I like it how the Governor is already positive that none of the 4 known intrusions is problematic.  Sounds like the investigation is already complete.    Nothing to see here folks. 

Here to hoping things change.

Posted by: California Red at October 28, 2008 02:41 AM (A1KzA)

203

#61so where do you think the re-education camps will be located, warm or cold climate?

GTMO.

 

 

 

Posted by: Chris at October 28, 2008 03:03 AM (cqCak)

204 Get used to it, folkses. It will be SOP for the New Regime of Holy Change and Redistribution.

Posted by: hillbillyjim at October 28, 2008 04:55 AM (pGtP5)

205 If this woman has that much money to donate to Husseins' campaign, then she is getting paid too much. I thought government workers were paid so poorly?

Posted by: KansasGirl at October 28, 2008 05:39 AM (5O2YA)

206 (Cited as "Work Listings") Jones-Kelley, Helen Job title: Director
Company: Ohio Chamber of Commerce

PO Box 0159

Columbus, OH 43215-0159

(614) 228-4201

____________________________________

Jones-Kelley, Helen Job title: Director
Company: Odjfs

30 E Broad St, Fl 32

Columbus, OH 43215-3414

(614) 752-4698

Posted by: PUMA at October 28, 2008 05:40 AM (mnYjP)

207

#203

You want to know where the "re-education camps" will be?  In the South West.  Well, that's what the Weather Underground planned so long ago.  Go to this website, read excerpts from the Weather Underground manifesto, and then watch the embedded youtube links.

Ya, apparently the Weather Underground was going to over throw the government after infiltrating the democratic party with socialists, and then those who were still hard-core capitalists would go to re-education camps in the South West.  They figured about 25 million Americans would not be "re-educated"--they would be counter-revolutionists, and so the Weather Underground would have to exterminate them--all 25 million them.

http://tinyurl.com/5873d9

 

Posted by: PUMA at October 28, 2008 05:49 AM (mnYjP)

208 All you right -wing reactionaries have been placed the Obama enemies list... uh ... the national psych profile list for immediate medication and socialization skills training. Your screen names are now in our database, and we will hunt ..... uh...... track you down .... uh .... find out where you reside, and make sure that your Social Security records will be erased...... uh ..... misplaced by accident. Oh, yes... one other minor detail ..... your families and friends too.


Posted by: ursa5000 at October 28, 2008 07:07 AM (wT019)

209 I would think it is one thing for a social service agency to look into databases that they have some authority to access for the purpose of carrying out their prescribed mission, but another thing to release information found to the media & public.

Posted by: Wendy at October 28, 2008 07:26 AM (vkn/1)

210 This is all kinds of crime. EVERY person who has access to SETS' records is thoroughly warned  in his initial training that SETS is to be used only in certain circumstances.  "Whatever is coming our way" is not on the list.

If some enforcement lawyer had done this on someone who, say, just bought a big house, she'd be fired and charged.

SETS is very protective of its power.

She'll get a reprimand. Woooo.

Posted by: staghounds at October 28, 2008 07:59 AM (a4wDN)

211 Joe Wurzlebacher needs to start filing lawsuits, today, if not sooner.

Posted by: dragonash at October 28, 2008 08:04 AM (B8ecD)

212 The good people of Ohio need to start a recall.  Their state has become the Venezuela of the Midwest.

Brunner has got to go.  She did not aid and abet corruption, she brought it into the office to use as a political tool.  She is the corruption in Ohio.  ACORN was just her accomplices.

Strickland has got to go.  He aided and abetted corruption while trying to keep his hands clean.  His proxies have made it clear that the tools of the state will be used to destroy anyone who gets in their way, and he refuses to even acknowledge the law. 

"Democrat Gov. Ted Strickland [who appointed Jones-Kelly this past January] is satisfied that there are no political overtures to the check on Wurzelbacher, a spokesman said." 

Yeah.  Right.

Recall.  Recall.  Recall. 

Posted by: Scott at October 28, 2008 08:15 AM (s0Yl6)

213 either you're a moby or a retard, but in either case: stop. - TB

Posted by: seejay at October 28, 2008 08:18 AM (hrHXg)

214 I'd like to see the list of prominent Democrats she has checked out.

Posted by: Amphipolis at October 28, 2008 08:29 AM (GqewV)

215

Some background:

Helen Jones-Kelley, Esq.
Executive Director, Montgomery County, Ohio Children Services
Dayton, Ohio
Helen Jones-Kelley, Esq., was appointed Executive Director of Montgomery County, Ohio Children Services in 1995, where she oversees public child protection programs. Prior to that position, she served as a referee (magistrate) and Assistant Legal Director for Montgomery County Juvenile Court. She is the immediate past president of the board of the National CASA Association and served on the Executive Advisory Council for the Child Welfare League of America. Ohio Supreme Court Justice Tom Moyer appointed her to be co-chair of the Ohio Advisory Council on Children, Youth and Families. Mrs. Jones-Kelley was also a foster parent.

More -

Helen Jones-Kelley earned her Doctorate degree from the University of Dayton School of Law. After a tenure in the private sector, her professional career has centered on human services and children. Since 1995 she has been Executive Director of Montgomery County Children Services, where she is responsible for the public child protection program and administers a $50 million budget and 380 staff. Ms. Jones-Kelley has been invited twice to the White House, once to honor Victim's Rights Advocates in 1992 and again in 1996 to attend a Leadership Conference on Youth, Drug Use and Violence. She was selected as one of the Ten Top Women in Dayton in 1996, a Woman of Influence in 1999 and was featured in "Essence" Magazine in 1997. Helen is past President of the Board of the National CASA Association and serves on the Executive Advisory Council for the Child Welfare League of America. She is also on the Board of Capital University's National Center on Adoption Law, founded by Dave Thomas. She was also appointed to the Governor's Task Force on the Investigation and Prosecution of Child Abuse. Locally, she serves on the Steering Committee for Parity 2000 and chairs its Administration Committee. She also serves on the Boards of Miami Valley Hospital, Hospice, the Nominating Committee for United Way of Dayton and Buckeye Trails Girl Scout Council. She is a member of Delta Sigma Theta and is also a Sustaining member of the Junior League of Dayton. Ms. Jones-Kelley is married to Tom Kelley and is the mother of four daughters, one of whom she fostered. 

 

 

 

Posted by: william at October 28, 2008 08:31 AM (Pgwuz)

216 The double standard here is about to make blow an aneurysm. A reporter ask tough questions and she "must have been a republican". Gwen Ifell wrote a positive book about Obama but her integrity should not be questioned.

Someone looks into Obama's passport and is fired. They look at Joe's public records and NOTHING.

Sarah is called a C and hanged in effigy, nothing. Barrack campaign claims racism on every thing and the media agrees.

I wonder where the outrage is.

Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 28, 2008 08:32 AM (e2mBS)

217 I'd like to see the list of prominent Democrats she has checked out.

Got it right here ---->  []

Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 28, 2008 08:57 AM (OqXyp)

218 If BHO gets elected, be prepared for a name change, i.e., USSA; United Socialist States of America!

Posted by: Bill at October 28, 2008 08:58 AM (L265Q)

219 Go directly to jail. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.

Posted by: Dkshideler at October 28, 2008 09:00 AM (83iEc)

220 As a government employee, I can tell you that the milieu is overrun with lefties probably on the order of 4:1 or more. The lefties control the government bureaucracies , the media and the entitlement recipients.

It's going to be a straight-uphill battle for conservatives.

Posted by: Nutmegory at October 28, 2008 09:12 AM (8el+/)

221 <quote>
218 If BHO gets elected, be prepared for a name change, i.e., USSA; United Socialist States of America</quote>

All hail the supreme leader comrade!!

Posted by: Viper1 at October 28, 2008 09:12 AM (gN0yP)

222

Sue, Joe, sue!!

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at October 28, 2008 09:13 AM (lhxhu)

223 So who else did this bitch check?

Anyone?

Any other Joes out there get "checked"?

Someone fucking check that!

Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2008 09:17 AM (XFyLb)

224 Google "background check" and go check for yourself.

Posted by: fucking checking that at October 28, 2008 09:33 AM (gi8e6)

225

Not that it is important, but this appears on Junior Johnson's website:

Presidential Quotes

"As an avid NASCAR fan, I attended many of the top events during the years when Junior Johnson was one of the greatest racers. As Governor of Goergia, I met with all the drivers before the contest began, led them in prayer for safety and good sportsmanship, and then rode in the pace car. Rosalynn and I also entertained the racing teams at the governor's mansion and also at the White House. Junior Johnson was one of those who supported my political campains, and I'll always be greatful for their wonderful influence among thousands of avid fans and admires." - President Carter

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He is now 77 years old and is probably a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat and likely doesn't pay attention to issues

Keep in mind, some folks who have been Dems (or Reps) all their lives only pay attention to pols who can be called upon later to  do favors for them to help business deals.  So it is usually all about MONEY.

 

Posted by: Juliet16 at October 28, 2008 09:46 AM (2xgu5)

226 Now I can remember that person. Jones-Kelley was one of those Dayton Democrat doofuses that has done so much to turn a once-prosperous Ahia city into a God-cursed ghost town. Raise the taxes on all the EEEVIL exploitational businesses. See businesses flee to the 'burbs or adjoining counties. Raise the taxes again. See more businesses flee. Rinse & repeat. After 7PM when the last employees of Mead & the 3 bank towers go home, the streets downtown are so empty you could shoot a vampire/zombie movie there. The frackin' Dayton Daily News (Socialist cheerleader fishwrap) has fled to Miamisburg rather than stay in town. This is what the Obamessiah's followers have done before he gives them more $$ and power.

Captain Hate: Everything you said is true.

redherkey: If the Obamessiah gets elected I will seriously consider moving to Kentucky. I may pay more for state income tax, and gas, but at least the state won't nickel-and-dime me with sales tax, and no state official will Inquisition me for my views. 
 

Posted by: exdem13 at October 28, 2008 09:47 AM (nQ6xk)

227 Prison time,NOT in Ohio!! Ohio ,has been sold out by ACORN,and the DEmonrats who are in power now like this felon.GOD,help us all if these type of corrupt,liars get into office!!

Posted by: mike e. cooney at October 28, 2008 09:47 AM (SbjCg)

228 That's what you get for questioning Glorious Leader, Joe.  Disparaging the boot is a bootable offense.

Posted by: Greg at October 28, 2008 09:50 AM (Gb7ho)

229

#176. I'm embarrassed to say that I don't know what that phrase means. Anyone care to explain it? TIA

It's from the Biden/Murtha SNL skit if i remember right, they had Biden say "gird your loins" when talking about the crisis an Obama presidency would produce.

Actually it's from the Bible.  It means "Prepare for battle".

Posted by: katya at October 28, 2008 09:51 AM (G3frc)

230 Over 200 comments, all bitching about some silly shit, and not one of you has mentioned the important things.  Namely, hitability.

I'd hit it.

Stone cold homos, the lot of you.

Posted by: Ed at October 28, 2008 10:06 AM (RJrvF)

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If you just back off and look at THE BIG PICTURE here is what you will see:

After WWII, this is what was happening in the USA:

--THE LEFT  slowly took over the MEDIA (especially MSM).

--THE LEFT slowly got strategic JUDICIAL appointments for "their people" , by occasionally winning a few national elections (Johnson/Carter/Clinton).

--THE LEFT slowly took contol of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

--THE LEFT slowly took over the EDUCATION -- School Boards and Teachers Unions on the Local Level and the entire University System.

--THE LEFT got key LEGISLATION passed -- by first publicizing and exploiting key issues that could later be exploited for other unintended nefarious purposes. EQUALITY (voting rights/ACORN, Housing/CRA, Affirmative Action (see writer: Shelby Steele' White Guilt) that could later be exploited as a stepping stone for other purposes, ECOLOGY: by  (Global Warming), HEALTH CARE (a right, not a responsibility), etc.

Meanwhile, THE CENTER and THE RIGHT slept peacefully in their beds at night, thinking all was well, as long as business flourished, Wall Street was happy,  and the economy continued to grow

Economic booms masked what was going on under the radar, but THE LEFT never took their eye off the prize.

So the stage was set...all that remained was to find a charismatic individual or two who could be used to win another election and finish off what had taken years to set in place....

But who realizes what has been going on? 

Not many people.  They just think everything is OK and later are surprised to wake up one morning to find out that all the Home Depots are now stocking a new type of light bulb that we will be forced to use one day....

 

Posted by: Juliet16 at October 28, 2008 10:19 AM (2xgu5)

Posted by: HondaV65 at October 28, 2008 10:26 AM (08/AR)

233 The Toledo Blade is reporting that the Toledo Police gave Joe's information to the media.

Posted by: Hammertime at October 28, 2008 11:07 AM (8o7yQ)

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#61so where do you think the re-education camps will be located, warm or cold climate?

GTMO.

Too small. I think it'll be the Grand Canyon, which should be easy & cheap to secure. Many square miles of space, long cliffs on two sides, easily closed off at either end, and the rainy season takes care of any overcrowding.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 28, 2008 11:18 AM (Ds4I5)

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The most alarming among the audit's findings is that of the questionable business practices that led to $305,632 in illegally spent public funds by Kids Are Really Essential, Inc., a private, not-for-profit, child placement agency, located at 3453 W. Siebenthaler Avenue, Dayton, that serves the Montgomery County Children Services Agency.

According to Helen Jones-Kelley, Director of Children's Services, the county has been in a bit of a quandary for some time.

 

google search...

lets dig  into this.

btw....i am living in nw indiana, and you should see what i have seen in the records search at the county courthouse, all the employees of the county assessors office are there, and most of them have at least one foreclosure..lol

Posted by: DAVE IN SOCIALIST CHICAGO at October 28, 2008 11:24 AM (em3+o)

236 Here is the contact information for the Attorney General of Ohio.  Nothing cries out more for a state investigation than this does.  FBI should be right behind.  (Yeah, I know, they won't be...)

Nancy H. Rodgers
Attorney General, State of Ohio
State Office Tower
30 E. Broad Street, 17th Floor
Columbus, OH  43215-4320

Phone: (614) 466-4320

Website Contact Form: http://www.ag4ohio.gov/Public/details.aspx?s=222

Posted by: Concerned for Our Liberties at October 28, 2008 01:18 PM (h3waA)

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From the Toledo Blade:

Mr. Wurzelbacher also said Tuesday he's considering a lawsuit over the fact that government workers have apparently searched some records pertaining to him since he challenged Barack Obama on his tax policy two weeks ago.

"I have contacted a lawyer,'' he said as he formally hit the political stump for the first time since his conversation with Mr. Obama in his Springfield Township driveway led to his name becoming synonymous with Republican John McCain's campaign.

"Other than that, that's as far as I've gone with it,'' he said. "I'd like to see justice done. That's just for other people who dare ask their elected officials a question. They shouldn't have to go through the scrutiny that I've gone through. It shouldn't have to bother their families the way it's bothered my family.''

You go, Joe!

Posted by: Paula at October 28, 2008 01:59 PM (WYypq)

238 ugly is as ugly does.

Posted by: mag at October 28, 2008 02:23 PM (uBflb)

239 When are they going to Perp-March her into court for misuse of her authority.

BTW, you DAB, if Joe the Plumber has his 13 year old son living with him, there is no need for him to pay child support.  Did you bother to check Joe's x-wife?

Posted by: prestonross@hotmail.com at October 28, 2008 03:49 PM (JEfUQ)

240 She should be under arrest,this is what the KGB did in the old USSR !

Posted by: Tommy at October 28, 2008 06:51 PM (K4q1a)

241 How much is the state paying this woman that she shells out $2600 in campaign contributions?

Posted by: toetotoetotoe at October 28, 2008 07:29 PM (RQWat)

242 Helen's background is at Montgomery County CSB. One of her feathers in her cap is reducing out of home placements in county under her direction. What people will not mention is that during the reduction in out of home placements crime skyrocketed in Montgomery county. They litterally was having shooting every night. Many other social problems went out of control during that period. Can these two things be related? We will never know unless someone looks at Children Services Records and law enforcement records for the last 15 years. To be able to do this you need approval from the very people that the information could possibly indict. Oh well, what can we do when our politicians and public servants are untouchable?

Posted by: PJ at October 28, 2008 09:15 PM (AaSvo)

243 OK, so she looks into Joe's records because he's suddenly in the news. I don't understand why she thinks a newspaper article on Joe gives HER permission to snoop, but there ya have the liberal mindset.

But what then gives her the right to present this information to the media? Is that another benefit of being a liberal? That you can make and break the rules at your whim?

What a wonderful place Ohio must be.

Posted by: steve miller at October 28, 2008 10:44 PM (ndkR6)

244 Isn't H-J 'profiling'? Isn't she practicing 'Reverse Discrimination'? How can she justifiy her actions? With 'feeee-lings'? 'If your actions, in my opinion, look suspect to me, then it's reasonable for me to probe you'.

You can dress up a pig, but it's still a pig.

'Do as I say, not as I do'

Posted by: WS at October 28, 2008 11:38 PM (dw41k)

245 Your message has been rejected because long strings of unbroken text are very annoying. Use the space bar or tinyurl.com as appropriate.

Posted by: Robohobo at October 29, 2008 12:09 AM (q1cRn)

246 Even if I follow the link format given in the tool bar. Nice.

And stupid.

Posted by: Robohobo at October 29, 2008 12:10 AM (q1cRn)

247

Hmmmm. What stimulated the sudden interest in Joe's background?

Awaiting Gov Strickland's emergency press conference announcing that he has fired Jones-Kelley's pending criminal charges and that a citizen's privacy is sacred. Waiting.....waiting......

These are the very people who speak whenever convenient to their variuos causes, of violation of civil rights. They railed against the Patriot Act.

Get used to this under an Obama-Biden / Pelosi / Reid / Chicago - Hollywood regime.

 

Posted by: Mark at October 29, 2008 09:38 AM (46KNp)

248 What a lying bureaucrat Cvnt

Posted by: G-A at October 30, 2008 05:27 PM (5rZs+)

249 If only they spent that much time investigating that frigging sneaky muslim the street dwellers want to put into the whitehouse we would not be hearing his lying bullshit on tv now.   Since the media produced him as the second coming of christ I mean ala I guess we should not expect any more from them.  This dumb pig is just one of the millions of welfare recipients we dragged into a government job as a hand out to the sick lame and lazy no surprises hear.  We have been fucked out of our country better lear how to speak ebonics.

Posted by: George Hines at October 30, 2008 08:41 PM (HG2eL)

250

Fuck her and "The horse she rode in on!"

This is total Bullshit, if she snooped in on me I would be in her office with the State Attorney General and DEMAND they crawl up her ass with a microscope!!!

Joe should not let her get away with this ABUSE OF OFFICE!!!

Posted by: jason at October 30, 2008 10:35 PM (Yra82)

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Alright here's some truth. Being a past lottery winner I can tell you that it's not up to people like Jones-Kelley to investigate people in the news when they "come into the spotlight".

First of all, when you do win the lottery that stuff is in the system. So you go pick up your money and the first thing that is done at lottery headquarters is a check to see if you owe taxes, school loans, child support, etc...This is paid immeadiately before you ever collect anything. Note that the bitch never said what she does if she finds that someone owes. That's because it's not her job to police this shit and she couldn't do anything about it anyway.

What a liar! I thought she had a law degree but obviously she's an idiot.

"This dumb pig is just one of the millions of welfare recipients we dragged into a government job as a hand out to the sick lame and lazy no surprises here.  We have been fucked out of our country..."

AGREE!!! Fuck O'Bama and the sneaky horse he rode in on. Bill Clinton should be ashamed that he's campaigning for him.

Posted by: Tired of liberal bullshit at November 01, 2008 10:12 AM (tRBab)

252 119 The donation is limit is effectively $4600. Up to $2300 can be given for the primary period (up until the acceptance of the nomination) and another $2300 can be given for the general election period.

I thought that was for the congress.   Unless that has been changed since 2004 the presidential limit is a total of 2300 ($2000 in 04) for both primaries and  general.

for 140:
140 Have you noticed the Nazi-comparers (Barack Obama compares the U.S. to Nazi Germany!) behave like Nazis themselves?

That's the oldest trick that liberals play.   They always accuse the Republicans/conservatives of what they are really doing themselves to divert attention from themselves.  Everything they claim about the Republicans/conservatives, is really a confession.

They claim that the Republicans are trying (or have tried)  to steal an election, because they themselves are trying to steal the election. They claim that Republicans are racists, because in reality it is the Democrats and the liberals that are the real racists.
They claim that Bush is Big Brother, but in fact it is they want to create a Big Brother.

Now that you have opened your eyes, look at everything the Dems and libs have ever said about Bush and the Republicans and you will see them as self-incriminating.

Posted by: kevin at November 01, 2008 01:44 PM (zfK3f)

253 Referenced your article in mine. Kelley actually gave $5,000 to support Obama. Check it out. Did you notice this issue hit the O'Reilly Factor Friday? Nice work, your post was one of the first that caught my eye. I took a little different slant on the piece. Looking for any advice, suggestions, feedback that someone like you has to offer.

Roland

Posted by: Roland Foster-Balloun at November 08, 2008 09:02 PM (q96N2)

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November 20, 2008 (AP) Report:  Records search on Joe the Plumber improper -- Ohio Inspector General Tom Charles

I tried to post the Breitbart.com link, but received a message saying "Your post was rejected because long, unbroken strings of characters are annoying."

Couldn't be nearly as annoying as abuse of power by state officials to smear publicly ordinary citizens for political purposes.

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فندق أفريقيا, فنادق مكة, الخطوط الجويه السعودية, فنادق سيريلانكا Sri Lanka, صور رائعة من مصر, مطعم في اسطنبول بوسط البحر, فنادق صلاله, صور دجلة و النيل, الخطوط الجويه دولوميتي ايطاليا, فنادق ايرلندا Ireland, فنادق Moscow موسكو, فنادق الاحساء Al Ahsa, فنادق لاووس Laos, الخطوط الجويه سلوفانيا, فنادق روسيا Russia, الخطوط الجوية الكويتية, فنادق المانيا Germany, - ماليزيا, صور madrid the capital of spain, الخطوط الجويه اير افريكا ابيد جان, الخطوط الجويه اير موريشيز موريشيز, فنادق الظهران Dhahran, الخطوط الجويه اير زامبيا زامبيا, الخطوط الجويه ناشيون وايد ايرلاينز جنوب افريقيا, فنادق هيلتون, طيران الامارات, فنادق قطر, الخطوط الجويه اوكرانيا, صور فندق أتلانتس دبي , الخطوط الجويه ايطاليا, فنادق جراند باي موريشوس Grand Baie, فنادق خميس مشيط Khamis Mushayt, الخطوط الجويه الملكيه المغربيه, فنادق حلب - سوريا, كورال بوتيك للشقق الفندقي دبي, الخطوط الجويه المملكة المتحدة, فنادق بروناي Brunei Darussalam, فنادق الطائف Taif, فنادق لندن, تأجير السيارات مباشرة, صور البرازيل, فنادق جونيه, الخطوط الجويه اير مدغشقر مدغشقر , الخطوط الجويه كازاخستان, العربيه للطيران بالشارقه, فندق لا بيلمونت باريس Belmont , خطوط انديان ايرلانز Indian Airlines الهنديه, فنادق جمهورية غامبيا gambia, الخطوط الجويه اكسبرس جنوب افريقيا, فنادق بلجيكا Belgium, فنادق كومو - ايطاليا, صور اسطنبول الرائعة , حجز فنادق مراكش, الخطوط الجويه جنوب افريقيا, الخطوط الجويه لينجس ايرلندا, الخطوط الجويه إكسبرس ايرلندا, الخطوط الجويه سيتي كونيكشن ايرلاينز بروندي, الخطوط الجويه شارتر جنوب افريقيا, فنادق ابها Abha, مدينة باونتي, فنادق مدينة الخبر Khobar, فنادق الجزائر algeria, شقق ستار ميترو البرشه, فنادق بنغلاديش Bangladesh, فنادق بريده Buraydah, فنادق دمشق- سوريا, فنادق منغولا Mongolia, فنادق دبي, الخطوط الجويه روسيا, الخطوط الجويه الأمريكية American, فنادق جمهورية بنين Benin, فنادق نجران Najran, فنادق بوكت, فنادق سنغافورا Singapore, صور اكبر واجمل مول في العالم, فنادق إمارة اندوروا Andorra, خطوط سبايس جيت SpiceJet الهنديه, الخطوط الجويه اسبانيا, الخطوط الاسبانية Iberia, الخطوط الجويه اير زامبيا زامبيا, الخطوط الجويه غانا, جزيرة تيومان شرق ماليزيا ، Tioman Island, خطوط واير سحارى Air Sahara الهنديه, فنادق ماليزيا Malaysia, الخطوط الجويه مصر, فنادق النرويج Norway, خطوط جو اير GoAir الهنديه, فنادق ينبع Yanbu, شقق ليجاسي الفندقية, الخطوط الأيرلندية Aer Lingus, صور البرتغال سحر الاطلسي, فنادق جده Jeddah, الخطوط الجويه القطريه, الخطوط الجويه السعوديه, الخطوط الجويه ليتوانيا, الخطوط الجويه التونسيه, الخطوط الجويه اثيوبيان ايرلاينز اثيوبيا, الخطوط الجويه كوم اير جنوب أفريقيا, فنادق اليابان Japan, فنادق Pakistan باكستان, فنادق جزيرة موريشوس Mauritius, فنادق هوليداي إن, حجوزات فنادق- سفريات.كوم, شقق نجد الفندقية دبي, فنادق جمهورية اليونان Greece, الخطوط الجويه الاماراتيه, فنادق Turkey تركيا, فنادق جمهورية غانا Republic of Ghana, الخطوط الجويه الفلسطينيه, فنادق جورجيا Georgia, فنادق ايسلندا Iceland, تعرفو على اطول واضخم برج بالعالم اليابان , فنادق بتايا, خطوط طيران الخليج, فنادق حفر الباطن Hafr Al-Batin, فنادق افغانستان Afghanistan, الخطوط الجويه المصرية, فنادق هنغاريا Hungary, جزر موريشيوس اجمل الجزر في العالم , فنادق فيتنام Vietnam, الخطوط الجويه لاتفيا, الخطوط الجويه لكسور البرتغال , فنادق البحرين, طيران الشرق الأوسط لبنان, الخطوط الجويه ايرلندا, فنادق ميلان - ايطاليا, الخطوط الجويه البريطانية, صور رائعة من باريس فرنسا, فنادق كوريا الجنوبية South Korea, فنادق الرياض, فنادق نيجيريا nigeria, حجز فنادق انتر لاكن سويسرا, فنادق بولندا Poland, خطوط جيت ايروايز Jet Airways الهنديه, خطوط طيران الشرق الاوسط بلبنان, صور ايطاليا, فنادق اللاذقية - سوريا, مدينة ايفران بالمغرب الملقبة بسويسرا الصغيرة , خطوط كينج فيشر Kingfisher الهنديه,

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شات دردشة صوتيةشات صوتي

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مسجات رسائل اسلاميه , رسايل دينيه

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مسجات نكت , مقالب , رسايل ضحك , عبط

مسجات نكت , مقالب , رسايل ضحك , عبط

شات سعودي صوتي كتابي دردشه

منتدى دردشة سعودي

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دردشة صوتية , دردشه صوتيه , دردشة صوتيه
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جات صوتي , جات كتابي , جات كويتي
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