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| TIPP Poll: The One by The Two Point EightUhhhbama leading independents by five. Thanks to Scott.Comments1
channeling Bob Urker: "Turn this poll inside out and we are in FIRST PLACE"
Posted by: jp at October 27, 2008 03:38 PM (DFDtC) 2
wait for the "Redistributional Change" stuff to hit the polls. That lead will disappear quickly.
Posted by: BuckNutty at October 27, 2008 03:42 PM (ZY6M2) 3
Isn't the margin of error 3.5%? Then I would feel pretty good about this poll. Two mare days of Obama the marxist and it will be a dead heat.
Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 27, 2008 03:43 PM (e2mBS) 4
Anyone watch the new show Chocolate News with David Allen Grier? I caught a few minutes here and there and 1) it's not funny, and 2) it's pretty much a Republican/white-male bash. Posted by: Bart at October 27, 2008 03:43 PM (wIDgz) 5
After seesawing between 3.2 and 3.9 points over the weekend, Obama's lead slipped to 2.8 Monday
And that was before the audio of Obama talking about wealth redistribution in '01 and the Constitution surfaced. Posted by: Benson at October 27, 2008 03:43 PM (qzcNU) 6
IDB/TIPP people better sleep with one eye open.
Posted by: AFL/CIO at October 27, 2008 03:44 PM (GTpOW) 7
The wheel grinds slowly. Obama is in a race with the clock.
Posted by: toby928 at October 27, 2008 03:45 PM (PD1tk) 8
but factor in the Voter Fraud, something the MSM polls may be doing
Posted by: jp at October 27, 2008 03:46 PM (DFDtC) 9
(Tom) BROKAW: If you were called into the Oval Office on January 21st by the new president, whoever it happens to be, and he said to you, “General Powell, I need from you your recommendation on where I begin. What should be my priorities,” where would you start? POWELL: I would start with talking to the American people and talking to the world, and conveying a new image of American leadership, a new image of America’s role in the world. The problems will always be there, and there’s going to be a crisis come along in the 21st or 22nd of January that we don’t even know about right now. Posted by: Dave in PB at October 27, 2008 03:47 PM (CTSya) Posted by: AndrewGurn at October 27, 2008 03:48 PM (BX9uS) 11
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Here's my impression of this site:
"IGNORE THE POLLS!! And now, for another post on the polls." And now another post by AndrewGurn bitching about it! Posted by: DM! at October 27, 2008 03:49 PM (MzLox) 12
OK, will any appreciable number of voters ever hear about the WBEZ video/recording?
Posted by: floofyparisparamus at October 27, 2008 03:49 PM (O7Gfh) Posted by: Bart at October 27, 2008 03:49 PM (wIDgz) 14
Interesting to look at the breakdown.
Seems that the poorer and less educated folks are, the more they break for Obama. Posted by: mpur at October 27, 2008 03:49 PM (BotaL) 15
I caught a few minutes here and there and 1) it's not funny, and 2) it's pretty much a Republican/white-male bash.
I'm surprised about the last one. Grier was just in American Carol as a slave of Michael Malone's. He appeared alongside Gary Coleman. Posted by: Benson at October 27, 2008 03:50 PM (qzcNU) 16
There wa a time when I admired the General......those days, long gone
Posted by: MAJHAM at October 27, 2008 03:50 PM (NMK3S) 17
Is it any wonder why Obama has been so aggressive in trying to get his bots & others to the polls to vote early? Every day, more and more light is shed on his true thoughts about this country & what he sees as its faults....and morever and most importantly...what he plans to do to correct it.
Posted by: Twinks at October 27, 2008 03:50 PM (7QUxD) 18
PS: He may be a flaming liberal, but Ira Glass still gets a kudos from me for This American Life (WBEZ)
Posted by: floofyparisparamus at October 27, 2008 03:50 PM (O7Gfh) 19
Hey look it's Bart, some guy who I've never seen before on the internet who supposedly knows me.
Posted by: AndrewGurn at October 27, 2008 03:51 PM (BX9uS) 20
At this point, at least to me, there is no question that, as in 2004, the polls are wildly skewed in favor of the democrat candidate. I don't think it's crazy partisan republican wishful thinking to believe that, with the polls closing so much, and there being so much evidence that these polls are far too heavily weighted toward the left, that McCain is now in the lead. This is the first time I feel confident saying that. He may be in the lead by three points or by eight, I don't know. But, by looking at a variety of polls and their methods of sampling, and especially the fact that the early votes show no great democrat landslide, I am now absolutely positive McCain is in the lead. Will he win? I'm not saying that. But nationally, I feel strongly he's ahead now. No question. Posted by: 12thMonkey at October 27, 2008 03:52 PM (dOD8p) 21
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we only like the girls that like us. On a more serious note IBD is the reliable poll from the last election. The other polls mix sample size and method types routinely. Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 27, 2008 03:52 PM (e2mBS) 22
this is ours!! Put your boots on the ground. door to door. Phone to phone. On the 4th Senator Government will be made to return home. Also, notice the huge number of undecided's. If they break 2-1 or 3-1 like they did for clinton in almost all of the primarys, Senator Government is toast. All these polls with inflated leads for "That One" are simply a tool for the angry left to demoralize. It will not work. We will not stand by as our freedom is threatened. Americans Unite. Unite to take back our great country. Unite for a strong defense. Unite for an American Hero and True Leader. Unite for Sarah Palin. We will not be silenced and we will not lose. Not this time. McCain/Palin 08 we can make Obama's communist dreams disintergrate. Posted by: PPP at October 27, 2008 03:52 PM (zzms8) 23
You know who I was surprised to learn was Republican? The Rock and James Earl Jones.
Posted by: Benson at October 27, 2008 03:53 PM (qzcNU) 24
"On a more serious note IBD is the reliable poll from the last election".
I was not aware of that. Posted by: AndrewGurn at October 27, 2008 03:54 PM (BX9uS) 25
Also, girls that hate me tend to drive me wild for some reason.
Posted by: AndrewGurn at October 27, 2008 03:54 PM (BX9uS) 26
17% of the Independent/Other group are undecided. Obama hasn't sealed the deal with them. Hope that on Oct. 3rd the stock market finishes up for the day. Posted by: Lee at October 27, 2008 03:56 PM (TxTIh) 27
What if Bush endorsed Obama. Would that ruin him?
Posted by: Wilhelm Klink at October 27, 2008 03:57 PM (8D00g) 28
Ha! This is not the President Bush that I thought I knew.
Posted by: Lee at October 27, 2008 03:58 PM (TxTIh) 29
10 Here's my impression of this site:
"IGNORE THE POLLS!! And now, for another post on the polls." Posted by: AndrewGurn at October 27, 2008 03:48 PM (BX9uS)
No, that's not what's being said on this site. We're all keeping a close eye on the polls, but we understand them for what they are. Perhaps you weren't around for the 2004 election, when every state in the union was called for Kerry by 10 am.
Posted by: 12thMonkey at October 27, 2008 03:59 PM (dOD8p) 30
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Posted by: AndrewGurn at October 27, 2008 04:07 PM (BX9uS) 33
>>Seems that the poorer and less educated folks are, the more they break for Obama.<<
Did you ever think anything otherwise? The less educated, the less they know about their Messiah's actual plans.
But, since they stand to benefit...they could care less.
Posted by: AeroFANatic at October 27, 2008 04:10 PM (xYPeQ) 34
There is also a very unintended but potentially very helpful effect of the poll bias supposed to demoralize Republicans. It could make the Dems believe in a landslide and stay away out of overconfidence.
Hey, I'll take it if it works. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 27, 2008 04:10 PM (zpaDL) 35
McCain needs to go positive as a proton this week. The other job candidate with all the credentials and passes the "diversity" test just blew a major interview question. He needs to show his employers to be that what he lacks in youth and speed he makes up for with wisdom and guile.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 27, 2008 04:17 PM (n2eCn) 36
The less educated, the less they know about their Messiah's actual plans.
I was at a party this weekend, surrounded by Dems, and I was absolutely amazed by how shallow their depth of knowledge was. Ever single item they mentioned about Palin, Obama, McCain, or the idiot, was wrong or incomplete. Example: Them: "She fired that trooper!!" Me: "Umm, no she didn't. He still has a job. And I guess, since you don't believe he should have been fired after tasering his 10-year-old son, driving his patrol car while drinking, threatening her parents and quite likely abusing his wife, you are pro-child abuse, pro-drunk-driving, pro-spousal abuse and pro-elderly abuse. How progressive." Them: "Yeah, well, she had a baby with Down's Syndrome, so she shouldn't be running for VP!" ME: "So you're against choice now, too? Yeah, I guess she could have simply opted for the late-term abortion, comfortable with the knowledge that even if the baby was born alive, Obama would support her right to kill it anyway." And on and on and on.. Best part of the night was getting the call from one of them when I got home, saying I had swayed her away from The One and that she was not aware of all the things I mentioned and that she will be doing some more research before voting. That's all I asked of any of them. Posted by: wiserbud at October 27, 2008 04:24 PM (wWwJR) 37
"I'm surprised about the last one. Grier was just in American Carol as a slave of Michael Malone's. He appeared alongside Gary Coleman." Not everyone involved in An American Carol was a conservative. Some were just actors working. Indeed, I heard Zucker talk about how Grier didn't even know what the film was about when he filmed his scene and was somewhat incredulous that Zucker was a conservative. Posted by: Kensington at October 27, 2008 04:37 PM (kFwRi) 38
"You know who I was surprised to learn was Republican? The Rock and James Earl Jones." Rock was also a Dungeons and Dragons nerd, too (though with a name like Dwayne, is that really a surprise?). I think it's sweet, actually. Conservative James Earl Jones is just awesome, though. Posted by: Kensington at October 27, 2008 04:41 PM (kFwRi) 39
Best part of the night was getting the call from one of them when I got
home, saying I had swayed her away from The One and that she was not
aware of all the things I mentioned and that she will be doing some
more research before voting.
That's all I asked of any of them. Good going, Wiser. Posted by: Nice Deb at October 27, 2008 04:41 PM (Yccrl) 40
This is winnable. I do have to ask, who the heck are these undecideds at this point? This has been the longest most grueling election cycle in the memory of anyone alive today. How can there still be people who have not decided who they are voting for?
Posted by: t.ferg at October 27, 2008 05:07 PM (2YVh7) 41
I run a B&B. Had two guests last night. They are independent voters in VA. They are both voting McCain. Sorry. I just don't believe that statistic at all.
Met another woman and her husband in late August. Long-time Democrats from Florida. They also were voting McCain. These polls are WRONG. Posted by: Kris G at October 27, 2008 05:12 PM (7GZEI) 42
"Best part of the night was getting the call from one of them when I got
home, saying I had swayed her away from The One and that she was not
aware of all the things I mentioned and that she will be doing some
more research before voting."
Dude, you're awesome. Posted by: someone at October 27, 2008 05:14 PM (zHoxL) 43
Not only could I not persuade a guy at a football party last night, I came dangerously close to smashing a beer bottle over his head. I'm not real good at this. Posted by: Wilhelm Klink at October 27, 2008 05:40 PM (8D00g) 44
During the primaries Obama consistently under-performed his polls by about 6 percent.
Posted by: The Obvious at October 27, 2008 05:54 PM (1g+FW) 45
I don't believe in undecideds. I believe in McCain voters who are afraid to admit they are voting against the messiah.
Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at October 27, 2008 06:18 PM (vt0/V) 46
#40 I'd say the so-called Undecideds are almost all "shy McCain" voters who don't want to reveal their support. Remember the adage- voting conservative is like masturbating; we know lots of people do it but nobody wants to admit it publicly.
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The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
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Paul Anka Haiku Contest Announcement Integrity SAT's: Entrance Exam for Paul Anka's Band AllahPundit's Paul Anka 45's Collection AnkaPundit: Paul Anka Takes Over the Site for a Weekend (Continues through to Monday's postings) George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer Top Top Tens
Democratic Forays into Erotica New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party" Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?" Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance Collective Names for Groups of People John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive" Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments John Edwards Campaign Excuses John Kerry Pick-Up Lines Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney Torments in Dog-Hell Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny More Margaret Cho Abuse Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed" Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means Wonkette's Stand-Up Act Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report! Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet The House of Love: Paul Krugman A Michael Moore Mystery (TM) The Dowd-O-Matic! Liberal Consistency and Other Myths Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate "Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long) The Donkey ("The Raven" parody) News/Chat
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