Obama: Let's Pursue <i>Reparations</i> Through Legislation Rather Than the Courts

Obama: Let's Pursue Reparations Through Legislation Rather Than the Courts

A caller, "Karen," asked if it's "too late for that kind of reparative work economically?” And she asked if that work should be done through the courts or through legislation.
"Maybe I’m showing my bias here as a legislator as well as a law professor," Obama said. "I'm not optimistic about bringing about major redistributive change through the courts. The institution just isn’t structured that way."

"Reparative work." Seems like the caller understood what Obama was saying, and Obama agreed.

It's only now that they are furiously spinning that they meant something else.

While Obama isn't "optimistic" about getting this "reparative work" done through the courts, he hasn't entirely given up on them:

You can craft theoretical justification for it legally, and any three of us sitting here could come up with a rationale for bringing about economic change through the courts.

Obama's Redistributionist Obsession: Racially-tinged economic justice.

This is astounding stuff from a man who is one election away from the presidency. In politer tones, he is saying things that would make his mentors — Jeremiah Wright, Michael Pfleger, and William Ayers, not necessarily in that order — proud as peacocks. Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez are probably beaming too.
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I suggest henceforth that every time readers hear the word “change” from Team Obama, they insert the work “redistributive” in front of it.

Curiously, one of Obama's ideas for "change" -- taxing 401k's -- tracks rather neatly with radical redistributionist Phather Phleger's call for white people giving up their 401ks in the interest of racial justice.

Thanks to CJ for that.

Posted by: Ace at 12:57 PM

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1 "I'm not optimistic about bringing about major redistributive change through the courts. The institution just isn’t structured that way."

Yet.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2008 12:59 PM (epqk/)

2 I work with a handful of people that make the golden $250K+, almost all of whom are drooling Obama drones. I wish I had the balls to say to them "I'm personally looking forward to the day that Obama redistributes your income into my pocket."

Sigh.

Posted by: shibumi at October 27, 2008 01:02 PM (tZB/c)

3 That's fucking BULLSHIT. We've all heard the "Obama meant something else" song and dance before. It ain't gonna fly this time. I believe this audio, tied to everything else in Obama's closet, is the final nail in his coffin.

Posted by: incognito at October 27, 2008 01:03 PM (Rpam5)

4 This might hurt him in certain places. Places like the United States of America.

Posted by: nikkolai at October 27, 2008 01:04 PM (3KW6/)

5 So all of the last forty years of welfare/wealth transfer doesn't count because it wasn't specifically racially directed? Do I have that correctly? *sigh*

Posted by: Harry Callahan at October 27, 2008 01:05 PM (fagDq)

6 Note the adjectives in use here:

"reparative" work = reparations
"redistributive" justice = redistributions

The meaning is the same. It's Marxism and BLT Marxism.

Posted by: Fresh Air at October 27, 2008 01:06 PM (+j+vu)

7 As a brown person, do I get to extort money from white people, get extorted by black people, or simply kept out of the game? Will it change things if I stay out in the sun more, and develop a healthy tan?

Posted by: Tushar at October 27, 2008 01:06 PM (PTWes)

8 well, good thing McCain alienated those out there who would have used this in a 527 ad campaign.

Posted by: joeindc44 at October 27, 2008 01:07 PM (QxSug)

9 You'd think a lawyer would be good at making himself easy to understand. Yet Obama is always being misconstrued. Funny, that.

Posted by: tachyonshuggy at October 27, 2008 01:08 PM (TXp3z)

10 I'm not optimistic about bringing about major redistributive change through the courts. The institution just isn’t structured that way."

Yet.

Hmm, good thing he has been kept from getting those kinds of crazy ass judges into America's courts. oh shit!

Posted by: joeindc44 at October 27, 2008 01:08 PM (QxSug)

11 This whole discussion of negative liberties also applies to Second Amendment issues. One of the largest fights in Second Amendment jurisprudence was whether or not there is an individual positive liberty to own a gun or if there was a negative liberty, owned by the state, regarding the restrictions on gun ownership. I think it's fair to say, based on what we've heard of Obama's jurisprudence, that he disagrees with a positive individual right.

Posted by: alexthechick at October 27, 2008 01:10 PM (SHHaV)

12 Maybe I'm showing my bias here as someone who actually works for a living, but I'm not optimistic about improving the overall quality of life in this country by raising the taxes of the people who own the company I work for. Economics just don't work that way.

Posted by: SeeBS at October 27, 2008 01:11 PM (9S40G)

13 From Ben Smith via HotAir...Obama said:

I don’t think we’re going to have time to engage in a bunch of crazy things that people, the McCain campaign specifically, has suggested we might.

He always makes it about us. He never says he doesn't want to, its always a case of not being able to. 'We just don't have time to be TOO socialist.'

THIS GUY IS NUTS!!!

Posted by: jawbone at October 27, 2008 01:12 PM (JalPh)

14 Rush is just pounding this.

I was amazed that I heard this tape last night on an overnight show, shortly after finding it here. Traction, baby.

Posted by: mesablue at October 27, 2008 01:12 PM (5yNaE)

Shibumi: Anyone who manages to pull down a quarter mil but doesn't appreciate that his/her fiscal virginity is at stake isn't likely to have the sense of indignation it would take to pop you in the mouth for calling them out as fools. In fact, doing so might ameliorate their obvious Kool-Aid addiction.

I like the way the word chosen--reparative--is cast in a soft, sympathetic tone anyone could agree with. The first definition in Webster is "of, pertaining to, or effecting repair." Second def: "serving to make amends." The latter is clearly intended, but Chicago Jesus is okay if proles mistake it for the former.

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Posted by: railwriter at October 27, 2008 01:12 PM (nwEiU)

16 If, G-d forbid, Obomber ever tried to repeal the 2nd Amendment... I do not want to even contemplate the implications but I'm sure most of my fellow bloggers out there can put two and two together.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 27, 2008 01:13 PM (zpaDL)

Jeez Ace, don't you read your own blog? That's not what Obama! meant.

What he meant is: What he’s saying – this is the irony of it – he’s basically taking the side of the conservatives then and now against the liberals."

So you see, he only wants what you want.

Don't even think the word, "Reparations".

Posted by: Veeshir at October 27, 2008 01:13 PM (zXUuJ)

18 Tushar,

Best to be sure. Go with the tanned thing. Or put the Mrs. in a burka** so you're truly one of the oppressed people.

** Hide all sharp objects first.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at October 27, 2008 01:15 PM (nOQ1R)

Why is it every time Obambi or his idiot sidekick says nearly anything we have to wait for the interpretation by his handlers?

Four years of this shit - they must be kidding.

Posted by: Murph at October 27, 2008 01:15 PM (Dw2sU)

20 Luckily it only takes congressional action to change the number of justices on the Supreme Court, IIRC. Since nothing Teleprompter Jesus does gets any scrutiny, why should a little Roosevelt-style court packing during the first 100 day love affair bother the American Idol public?

Cass Sunstein, you better let the Obama campaign know what color of drapes you like.

Posted by: a4g at October 27, 2008 01:16 PM (UCdSu)

21 Obama won't try to repeal the 2nd amendment, he'll just tax ammo and the guns themselves and make shooting one a cause for immediate imprisonment without immediate charge and otherwise nibble around the edges. He will also sign laws that will -- eventually -- be declared unconstitutional. But he will test the limits, have no doubt.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 27, 2008 01:16 PM (T0NGe)

22 new gallup has Gumbi up 52-42.

I still can't believe what the hell we are witnessing

Posted by: icemike at October 27, 2008 01:16 PM (lT1JC)

How old was he during the slavery era here in the good ol USA?

Posted by: veblenschild at October 27, 2008 01:17 PM (Cto5S)

24 My hands are soft and weak.

Posted by: frito at October 27, 2008 01:18 PM (aOtNl)

25 This is a well-written article of the how the L.A. Times is threatening the safety, prosperity, and freedom of your family.

By assuring a Marxist wins the White House.

Posted by: Christoph at October 27, 2008 01:18 PM (hawOV)

As a brown person

Categorically: Yes. No. No; your skin color entitles you to stay in the game. Probably not.

Posted by: railwriter at October 27, 2008 01:22 PM (nwEiU)

27 >>put the Mrs. in a burka so you're truly one of the oppressed people.

Heh! So I can become 'truly oppressed' by putting someone else in a Burka.

The irony is so thick, I am going to bottle it up and use it as a dipping sauce*

*for my balls.

Posted by: Tushar at October 27, 2008 01:22 PM (PTWes)

28 Guess I pasted this under the wrong thread,

Obama believes in Reparations using a system of block grants to Black schools and Mortgages, versus payments to individuals.

Investor's Business Daily
Reparations By Another Name
Friday August 8

Posted by: Jean at October 27, 2008 01:23 PM (L64A6)

29 (Seen in a Boston Globe Comment by Brad, but excellent

Pelosi - Obama - Reid: The Axis of Taxes

Posted by: Al at October 27, 2008 01:23 PM (Lk931)

30 3 That's fucking BULLSHIT. We've all heard the "Obama meant something else" song and dance before. It ain't gonna fly this time. I believe this audio, tied to everything else in Obama's closet, is the final nail in his coffin.

OBAMA: I repudiate these remarks from 2001, that is not the Barack Obama I knew.
PRESS: Oh, cool.

Posted by: DM! at October 27, 2008 01:24 PM (MzLox)

31 Frito - Really, the only response to you is to be pissed that I do not have any actual fritos and Intern Boy is not here for me to make go get me some. Mmmmmmm fritos.

Tushar - If you attempt to put Mrs. in a burqa, please, please, please youtube it.

You'd think a lawyer would be good at making himself easy to understand.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *wheeze* AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, trust me, lawyers don't exactly try to make things clearer. There has to be wriggle room. Always.

Posted by: alexthechick at October 27, 2008 01:26 PM (SHHaV)

32 Obama's playing with fire when he suggests dismantling the Constitution: And uh, to that extent, as radical as I think people tried to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution

This is the contract which binds our states, the nullification of which does not resort to a new exclusively Federal entity. Instead, we could be marching down the path of breakup as many states would refuse to embrace the package Obama's Marxist insist would be required. Electoral College changes, for instance, seek to disenfranchise rural voters and promote the Leftist city elites. This very issue of small vs. large population states nearly condemned the original Constitutional Convention and in today's climate, would be terribly unwise to re-fight.

Indeed, a vote for Obama is a vote for the formation of JesusLand and the United States of Kanukastan (with realistically California and the rest of the liberal southwest becoming part of Mexico). Curiously, Ayers and Obama's other intellectual counterparts saw part of this happening by design, although they had designs for the elimination of all opposition in the fly-over territories. Don't count on us letting them succeed, however. Chicago and New York City doesn't produce a terrible amount of crops to feed its masses.

Posted by: redherkey at October 27, 2008 01:27 PM (kjqFg)

33 >>Tushar - If you attempt to put Mrs. in a burqa, please, please, please youtube it.

Alex, you would just lo-o-o-o-ve to see my ass beaten to a pulp by the Mrs, won't you? I knew you has a sadistic streak in you.

_{How about I privately email the video to you?}

Posted by: Tushar at October 27, 2008 01:28 PM (PTWes)

34 A better way of bringing about economic change is GET A FUCKING EDUCATION AND THEN A FUCKING JOB.

Posted by: Thomas E. Dewey '48 at October 27, 2008 01:30 PM (clO3l)

35 Haha. God this place is going off the rails-fucking love it.

Yeah, as opposed to the more sane outposts of the left like DKos and HuffPo.

</sarc>

Reality-based community indeed.

Stay strong my brother! Umm...Comrade!

I'm not up to speed with the etiquette of the left. Do we make with the Communist monikers now, or in January? Anyone know?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 27, 2008 01:34 PM (epqk/)

36 >>Do we make with the Communist monikers now, or in January?

Sean, a socialist is just a communist with a better PR team.

Posted by: Tushar at October 27, 2008 01:35 PM (PTWes)

37 Everyone forgets that he was a Professor of Constitutional Law. That essentially means that he can be considered an expert on the subject as there are many other people they could have asked to teach the subject if he wasn't.

Studying the Constitution so carefully would enable him to find "loopholes" that he could capitalize on. If you follow this through. I don't really care about the birth certificate stuff. But, I have been asking all over the internet and I've been researching myself, the following question: What body or individual is responsible for vetting presidential candidates? I've gotten answers that McCain was vetted by the entire senate when they confirmed his birth certificate but no one can answer this question. I think it is an important question to be answered for future presidential races. I'm sure Arnold Swartzenager would love to know if there are any loopholes here.

Posted by: incredulous at October 27, 2008 01:37 PM (zplc6)

38 The Democrats have never come to terms with their support for slavery and segregation. They want to shift the blame to America as a whole. Maybe reparations would be a good idea if only Democrats paid.

Posted by: zmdavid at October 27, 2008 01:38 PM (zsnML)

39 Serious Obama is screaming like Al Pacino right now.

And that stupid fucking O logo is a swastika.

Posted by: icemike at October 27, 2008 01:41 PM (lT1JC)

That's fucking BULLSHIT. We've all heard the "Obama meant something else" song and dance before. It ain't gonna fly this time. I believe this audio, tied to everything else in Obama's closet, is the final nail in his coffin.

At this stage his audience is not the general public. He is speaking to his worshipers now and this is his version of “if it doesn’t fit you must acquit”. His spin is nothing more than a fig leaf for the supporters.

Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2008 01:43 PM (b1ysY)

41 Serious Obama is screaming like Al Pacino right now.

Funny, we were watching "V for Vendetta" this weekend and my kids thought it was interesting how much it parallels Obama's politik, which is amusing when you realize the film was meant as a criticism of Bush.

The more the left projects, the more they admit their true thought crimes. Every Kos rant is further validation that deep down, they know they're the same guilty Klansmen as their forefathers. Yea, the targets for oppression have changed now that blacks are compliant 98% voting sharecroppers on the Dem plantation. Today's target is the educated, success-seeking middle class, which follows the Reich's targeting of the middle class Jews quite nicely.

Posted by: redherkey at October 27, 2008 01:45 PM (kjqFg)

42 Wonder why BO is spending big bucks to blather on for 30 minutes when FOX is allowing the mother fucker to do it right now? I mean, WTF, FOX?

Posted by: incognito at October 27, 2008 01:48 PM (Rpam5)

43 Scares the bejeebus out of me when Oba-mao says we can make change "if we're willing to work for it". I have this horrific vision of Work Camps.

Posted by: CInAz at October 27, 2008 01:49 PM (qIOmI)

44 Ok, i LOVE the Country LOVE LOVE LOVE

but I am literally SICK everytime I hear this EMPTY PROMISES EMPTY SUIT PREACHER OF NOTHING speak.

I cannot call him my President if he wins.

He completely, uterly and totally DISGUSTS me.

am i wrong? I may go check out an island hiding place for four years....I HATE the people who have created this man and the media who has pushed him.

Posted by: christy at October 27, 2008 01:50 PM (drHfj)

45 In all fairness, Incognito, FOX is the only friggin station that really is fair and balanced. Don't like seeing Oba-mao, but at least they are fair. And yet, they will probably be the first station 'to go' when The One enacts FD.

Posted by: CInAz at October 27, 2008 01:51 PM (qIOmI)

Sean, a socialist is just a communist with a better PR team.

I gotta disagree on that Tushar. A commie is a socialist with guns.

Posted by: Veeshir at October 27, 2008 01:51 PM (zXUuJ)

47 Yeah, what if we aren't willing to "work hard so future generations can prosper?" What if I want to prosper right now? Is that off the table?

Posted by: Clovis27 at October 27, 2008 01:51 PM (DwDUz)

Icemike,

Obama is up 10 in the all dems show up and no pubs show up poll. He is only up 5 in the traditional but still like 8% more dems show up. Mac is down between 3 and 5 points.

Posted by: Judd at October 27, 2008 01:54 PM (BXHeE)

49 Tushar,

Thanks for catching my intentional irony.
I wasn't sure any of the morons here would get it.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at October 27, 2008 01:55 PM (nOQ1R)

50 OH NO! Obamuh is trying to use the Chewbacca Defense

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at October 27, 2008 02:00 PM (E6GUg)

51 I just want to restate my oft-stated prediction that this blog will be a ghost town inside 6 months.

Well, sure, after Der Fairness Doktrin is enforced and we're all shipped off to Voluntary Universal National Service camp.

Tool.

Posted by: tsj017 at October 27, 2008 02:03 PM (hSSc2)

52 jack kemp and his mullet should leave immediately.

mccain just made me change the channel.

Posted by: icemike at October 27, 2008 02:04 PM (lT1JC)

53 great. an old white guy yelling about the civil rights movement. Does anyone else see it that way?

Posted by: icemike at October 27, 2008 02:05 PM (lT1JC)

While found at Americas Right, it's really a piece written in Feb 2008 at Town Hall on Obambi's "feelings" on SCOTUS appointees...is it any wonder that gun sales are up?? Link to TownHall's original article tinyurl.com/29f8hk

Posted by: CInAz at October 27, 2008 02:09 PM (qIOmI)

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I'm fairly good with my hands....construction and cabinet making. Degree in Physics. I've probably got about another ten years of productive labor left. I have my own tools.

Posted by: rls at October 27, 2008 02:17 PM (5fIu7)

56 A better way of bringing about economic change is GET A FUCKING EDUCATION AND THEN A FUCKING JOB.

Word. It worked for my people.

Posted by: toby928 at October 27, 2008 03:04 PM (PD1tk)

57 You white folk are absolutely terrified at the thought of a black president aren't you?

Posted by: thomas at October 27, 2008 03:08 PM (KOLiq)

Thomas spews: You white folk are absolutely terrified at the thought of a black president aren't you?

Whaddaya mean "you," white man?

Posted by: ushie at October 27, 2008 03:19 PM (XWJh5)

59 full on deleting now!

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so long!

Posted by: frito at October 27, 2008 03:29 PM (aOtNl)

60 so long!

promises, promises

Posted by: toby928 at October 27, 2008 03:49 PM (PD1tk)

61 thomas , you're a fucking idiot.
For the hundredth time , it ain't the color it's the Marxism .

Posted by: aubrey at October 27, 2008 03:51 PM (joS+d)

62 What are you fascists going to do on November 5th? Because I don't think I can take eight years of this constant squealing and crying.

Posted by: Audrey at October 27, 2008 04:13 PM (rxHGF)

63 You haven't made your case that any of Obama's policies are aimed at reparations. Your use of the term is sensationalist, at best, and an appeal to racism, at worst.

Posted by: Intolerant Faith at October 27, 2008 04:19 PM (9SRBl)

64 Megan Kelly is roasting Bill Burton's ass on Fox right now.

Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2008 05:18 PM (b1ysY)

65 Tushar-_{How about I privately email the video to you?}
Please include me!I can always enjoy watching a brown man receiving a "beatdown"!

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