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| NYT: Cuban Intel Agency Aided the Weathermen; DGI Intended to Recruit Prospects to Work in US GovernmentAccording to this article in the Times from October of 1977, reporting on a leaked FBI report. Shocking, I know. A leaked FBI report through the NYT. I purchased the article from the archives too, just in case, here's the .pdf-Three years before militant members of the students for a Democratic Society split off to form the Weather Underground Organization in 1970, North Vietnamese and Cuban officials were influencing radical antiwar strategy through foreign meetings. Many of these meetings were held in Communist countries, including Hungary, Czechoslovakia and North Vietnam. -The conduit for contact in the United States was a group of intelligence agents assigned to the staff of the Cuban Mission to the United Nations in New York. These agents arranged for American youths to be inculcated with revolutionary fervor and, occasionally, to be trained in practical weaponry by Cuban military officers through the so-called Venceremos Brigades. -After the Weathermen went "underground" in 1970 and many of them were being sought by the F.B.I. on criminal charges, Cuban intelligence officers were in touch with them from both the New York mission and the Cuban Embassy in Canada. -Cuban officials helped several Weather Underground adherents who feared arrest in the United States to travel to Prague, Czechoslovakia, and then to reenter the United Slates surreptitiously. The report linked the growing militancy of certain members of the Students for a Democratic Society, which resulted in the so-called Days of Rage in Chicago in 1969; to North Vietnamese advice the year before to choose youngsters who would battle with the police. The North Vietnamese, according to S.D.S. literature of the time, had suggested that the antiwar movement needed not just intellectual protesters but also physically rugged recruits.So, which WeatherUndergrounders did they help? In another incident, the report said, four Weathermen who had been in Cuba with the Venceremos Brigades were sent back to the United States through Czechoslovakia rather than through Canada with other brigade members to lessen their chances of being arrested by the United States authorities. The four wanted to get back to the United States safely after the explosion of a house in Greenwich Village killed two members of the Weather group, Dianna Oughton and Ted Gold, and the Cubans "obliged" them by making the European travel arrangements, the report said.Informant Larry Grathwohl, yeah, that informant, said he'd been given instructions from Bill Ayers on the code system for contact set up by the DGI. "In February 1970, leading WUO member Bill Ayers told fellow underground WUO member Larry Grathwohl that if communication could not be made through these Canadian numbers, an individual should get in touch with the Cuban Embassy in Canada in order to establish contact with other members of the WUO," the report said. "To do this an individual should use the code name 'Delgado' when referring to himself and the person with whom he desired to make contact," it said.Was Ayers one of the 4 they brought back through Prague? I don't know, but I'd sure as hell like someone in the media to ask him. If they actually gave a shit about Ayers, which of course, they don't. Nobody seems to give a shit about Ayers except you and me, and I'm starting to wonder about you. (kidding) Obama's chosen association. And one to date he refuses to I am remiss in noting that this was tipped to me by someone who'd rather not be acknowledged. He did the diggin, not me. Comments1
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"DGI Intended To Recruit Prospects to Work In U.S. Government."
Mission accomplished, Fidel. Mission accomplished. Posted by: Elian Gonzalez at October 25, 2008 03:08 PM (s4mrA) 3
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More troll pee. TrueChoadswallower is more like it. Posted by: Blacksheep at October 25, 2008 03:08 PM (4VCIX) 4
Gee, if Obama really has such a commanding lead...why this need to shove it in our faces, "True Conservative"?
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Hey, True Libturd, FOAD. Obummer is going to lose on November 4th. You might as well get used to saying, PRESIDENT JOHN MCCAIN, true American Hero. Commies always LOSE.
Posted by: incognito at October 25, 2008 03:09 PM (Rpam5) 6
Bill Ayers palled around with commies? Shit. Who knew?
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Thanks for posting this. I quoted the post on BabaluBlog.
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(MSM ending) "...And Bill Ayers never, never, ever traveled anywhere to meet with another Socialist who wished for the overthrow of America again. The End." "That was a great story, Uncle Delgado. Can you tell us again? Please?" "No, you must go to bed now. You know your Mommy and Daddy will be back from the inauguration ball soon enough." Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 25, 2008 03:18 PM (ZGhSv) 10
How to Brainwash a Nation Yuri Bezmenov is a former KGB agent and an expert on ideological subversion. He discusses the slow process of demoralization that transformed America from a conservative and mostly homogeneous country into a socially-marxist and egalitarian one. Interview conducted by Edward Griffin in 1984 Posted by: politicalmuse at October 25, 2008 03:18 PM (kLKnf) 11
Perhaps one can hope that Ayer's kids are taught what Ayers himself preached. Something about offin your parents or something, you know what I mean. Oh the irony if that happened. Oh the sweet irony.
Posted by: CDR M at October 25, 2008 03:20 PM (TJoU6) 12
It doesn't matter if Ayers went to Cuba or Prague. If he knew about the planning he was part of the conspiracy. Oh, unless he stayed home to just co-ordinate activities, then he's clean. Cocksucker. and what about the confluence of Ayers being in New York while Dear Leader was studying in the library at Columbia well, i suppose i could just be entertained watching Biden interviews, comedy gold. Posted by: billypaintbrush at October 25, 2008 03:22 PM (uRk5q) 13
Ayers matters because 1) he is part of a broad pattern of associations and 2) because these associations strongly suggest that Obama is more radical and leftwing than he's letting on.
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I'd post, but I'm busy humping a credenza.
Posted by: TrueConservativeFagLeftieAstroturfer at October 25, 2008 03:30 PM (h5C3f) 16
Obama was a member of the SDS at occidental. Another coincidence in a long line of them.
Posted by: ppp at October 25, 2008 03:30 PM (zzms8) 17
So, which WeatherUndergrounders did they help? Well Cathy Boudin for one. Her dad, noted "civil rights" lawyer Leonard Boudin represented many on the lunatic left including Paul Robeson, Frank Marshall Davis' good friend and fellow communist and Fidel Castro. Yes, that Fidel Castro. I'm pretty convinced Leonard Boudin was the link between Cuba and the Weathermen. Cathy Boudin was known by the FBI to have been hiding in Cuba after the bomb plant in Greenwich village 'sploded. Posted by: JackStraw at October 25, 2008 03:33 PM (VBon8) Posted by: Blacksheep at October 25, 2008 03:33 PM (4VCIX) 19
"TrueConservative", no more threadjacking Moby. Your one warning.
You wanna emote? Speak to the topic at hand pal. Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 25, 2008 03:38 PM (eiOZw) 20
Having been an intel nugget in my prior stints in the Green Machine, I always felt the DGI, the Cuban version of the KGB, would have aided ALL the Undergrounders they could get in touch with. ALL OF THEM.
The DGI, like most any eastern bloc styled Intel Ops Agency, would have sent out as many trained rats as it could reliably send. If Ayers got there first, he might indeed have had that level of training but the fact remains: such agencies are seldom that picky in their recruiting at times of large turmoil as there was at the end of the 60s and early 70s. These are the times where an agency spreads a wide net and tries foe wide spread recruitment, as many will fall along the way, many will be caught or fall out of love with the movement, and many will choose family over ideology. Judging from their comfortably bourgeois lifestyles these days, the Ayers and Dorhn brand of activism is down to encouraging others to carry the fire while you stay home and buy CHe Guevara merchandize on QVC... Posted by: johnjacobjingleheimersmith and wesson at October 25, 2008 03:43 PM (ZEm1M) Posted by: toby928 at October 25, 2008 03:48 PM (PD1tk) 22
oh, yes, TrueConservatroll, as seen above, your mother teabags McCain canvassers on your front porch.
Enjoy you Saturd-day, troll prick. Posted by: johnjacobjingleheimersmith and wesson at October 25, 2008 03:49 PM (ZEm1M) 23
When True Conservative bothers to post an asinine comment, you just want to believe the opposite. I know I do.
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I remember Kerry was all but assured of the presidency in 2004. Obama is not as far ahead as the polls suggest. and frankly, why is it that the Dems are always ahead in the polls? I say McCain wins on Nov. 2nd Posted by: jorge at October 25, 2008 03:53 PM (z0Z1N) 25
Hey here I am the MSM. I know Ayers did what he did and knew Barry. Look between you and me I see nothing.
I can lead you through this, just trust me...really. Also those "true conservatives" posting here, yup their part of our clan, just, like rape, lay back and enjoy it. Now here's something shiny. Well maybe shiny isn't the right word. Here's something slick. Posted by: The Blind at October 25, 2008 03:56 PM (Am6n/) 26
http://www.wpunj.edu/newpol/issue41/Lemisch41.htm
"Delgado" is a tribute to Marion Delgado, a 5 year old child who derailed a passenger train in Los Angeles, and is thus a folk hero to Bill Ayers and his comrades in the Underground. If you skim through the story you'll also see many references to the "rehabilitation" of Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground. Gosh, it sounds like Barry is getting talking points directly from them. Posted by: Buy Danish at October 25, 2008 03:56 PM (twzzy) Posted by: the real joe at October 25, 2008 03:57 PM (NJ/RA) 28
Change I cant fucking believe is about to happen
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I am listening to the youtube lesson offered by the ex pat Soviet Yuri Bemenov and thinking a human turd like TrueFalseConservative would most likely be amongst the first to wind up in a gulag (germanic: contserlagr), and meaning workcamp.
Not alot of work coming out of those except death and misery. Get your vitriol out now, you troll, your time will definitely be short. Posted by: johnjacobjingleheimersmith and wesson at October 25, 2008 03:58 PM (ZEm1M) 30
tc "The Politico reports" "Democrat pollster told CNN" Oh man, your one funny little douschebag Its like a bunch of democrats sucking eachothers dicks and reporting each moment as "news" Posted by: TMF at October 25, 2008 04:01 PM (/YM8H) 31
D in T- Here are 3 more likely candidates, Dave Dellinger, Tom Hayden and Carl Davidson. Who says? Carl Davidson. Later, representing SDS, I had a chance to meet with Fidel. At the Cultural Congress of Havana in 1968, Dave Dellinger, Tom Hayden and I were whisked away to a safe house, were we sat up with Fidel late into the night, discussing everything under the sun. He wanted to know our opinion of McGovern, Dellinger wanted to know about Che and Regis Debray, Hayden and I asked to start what became the Veceremos Brigade, and Fidel bugged me to explain 'hippies' to him, and I tried my best. I think we spend to much time focusing just on Ayers. Obama is literally surrounded by SDS types, Dohrn, Davidson, Klonsky, and on and on. If only we had an actual free press in this country this stuff would make a great story. Posted by: JackStraw at October 25, 2008 04:03 PM (VBon8) Posted by: incognito at October 25, 2008 04:10 PM (Rpam5) 33
I think we spend to much time focusing just on Ayers. Obama is literally surrounded by SDS types, Dohrn, Davidson, Klonsky, and on and on. If only we had an actual free press in this country this stuff would make a great story.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 25, 2008 04:03 PM (VBon You are oh-so right. Carl Davidson has told us that he met Obama through the New Party, he raised money for him, and has been to his house. Posted by: Buy Danish at October 25, 2008 04:33 PM (twzzy) 34
And in another bulletin, the Yankees win the World Series on a homer by Reggie Jackson.
Posted by: icus at October 25, 2008 04:35 PM (FOt5Z) 35
Carl Davidson has told us that he met Obama through the New Party, he raised money for him, and has been to his house. And the New Party is ACORN. Of course the Workers Family Party which enthusiastically endorsed Hillary is also ACORN. Is there anyone in the Democrat Party leadership who isn't a scumbag? Posted by: JackStraw at October 25, 2008 04:43 PM (VBon8) 36
#31 JackStraw.. Is the Tom Hayden mentioned the same Tom Hayden California State Senetor 1992-2000? If so, this picture keeps getting bigger. Posted by: Hugh Jass at October 25, 2008 04:52 PM (lIIAO) 37
Is the Tom Hayden mentioned the same Tom Hayden Yep. Hayden was a biggie in SDS and his chapter hosted a young Barry Obama when he gave speech on apartheid. This was when Barry was at Occidental, before he went to Columbia. For Obama to inisist he had no knowledge of SDS or the Weathermen when he was at Columbia is laughable but not really funny. Posted by: JackStraw at October 25, 2008 04:57 PM (VBon8) 38
So, Russia aided the Weathermen (big shock) via Cuba.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 25, 2008 04:59 PM (0+Ggj) 39
And the New Party is ACORN. Of course the Workers Family Party which enthusiastically endorsed Hillary is also ACORN.
Exactamundo. Dan Cantor of the New Party and WFP proposed higher taxes on any New Yorker making over $250,000. It's so darned similar to Barry's plan that one can't help but wonder if he's not one of Barry's advisors. Cantor also proposed a progressive property tax, an idea which would undoubtedly gain traction in an Obama/Pelosi/Reid administration. They can't force communities to set that system up, but they can make it as popular as global warming "science" and pressure communities to adopt it in the interest of social justice. Posted by: Buy Danish at October 25, 2008 05:30 PM (twzzy) 40
Ace --
The NYT article refers to the same report (1976, 400+ pages) the FBI has on their website -- only theirs is heavily redacted, especially when it comes to "Foreign Travel and/or Contacts" the report lists under the names of each WUO member. Link There's some info still in the report about the initial meeting between the Vietnamese and leading anti-war activists in Bratislava, Czechoslovakia, in November 1967, and travels to Cuba in 1969 and 1970, but nothing I can see about trips from Cuba to Prague, Czechoslovakia after '70. In fact, there's almost nothing about the WUO travels after 1970, so I assume that's what's blacked out, which is curious. I'm not getting what the NYT's angle is in this story -- the report says that Fidel, Che and Regis Dubray were the strongest influence on the WUO -- but the NYT seems to be saying "Look, even though they traveled to Cuba, and had frequent contact with Cuban agents, they weren't secret agents of a foreign power since they didn't have any connections to "Communist bloc nations," so hey, the FBI is lying. Cuba wasn't a "foreign power?" It wasn't part of the international communist movement in the bizarro world of the NYT? The Cuban missile crisis never happened? Bill Ayers, brother, Rick (Richard James Ayers), also in the WUO, spent several years in Canada draft-dodging, though, and Cathy Wilkerson, who survived the townhouse blast, was a well-traveled terrorist beeyotch, including trips to Hanoi, Paris and Cambodia, as well as Cuba. Dohrn and Oughton, Bill's GF's, made frequent trips to Cuba (through Canada) pre-1970, but Ayers is never mentioned as traveling there, or anywhere else. Oughton also spent a year studying in Russia, and also spent some time in Guatamala. There's more in the FBI report, but it's a really bad, unsearchable copy in six parts, and tough on the eyeballs. Posted by: JBean at October 25, 2008 07:06 PM (bolnR) 41
You missed a vital part of the article: It said the ultimate objective of the D.G.I's participation in setting up the Venceremos Brigades "is the recruitment of individuals who are politically oriented and who someday may obtain a position, elective or appointive, somewhere in the U.S. Government, which would provide the Cuban Government with access to political, economic and military intelligence." The report said this conclusion was based on information from former officials of the D.G.I. The Cuban intelligence officers were described as particularly eager to recruit Americans who had political contacts or who were related to United States government officials. Isn't that what they are doing right now?Posted by: here come the fascisti at October 25, 2008 07:22 PM (jSbKY) 42
You Americans are so fucking stupid.
On average.* You're actually going to put in place this radical terrorist-associating Marxist. I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad. * I'm not saying the people on this website are stupid; I'm saying the mean composite of your population at this time in history, 2008, is stupid. Your country is so fucked. Which sucks. Posted by: Christoph at October 25, 2008 07:40 PM (hawOV) Posted by: Potosi Joel at October 25, 2008 08:34 PM (TPRbZ) 44
I dont see your "link" from Rove, to Ayers. Clue me in?
Posted by: Hugh Jass at October 25, 2008 09:11 PM (lIIAO) 45
Heh, remember all those conservatives who, a few short months ago, were saying that I was no threat, and the important thing was to put the stake in Hillary's heart once and for all? *lights cigar* I love it when a plan comes together!
Posted by: Barak "Hannibal" Obama at October 25, 2008 09:30 PM (Tz2XN) 46
Yeah, I know, I was one of them. Can I blame the media?
Posted by: lauraw at October 26, 2008 08:59 AM (DbybK) 47
That's a good one. I linked it to my blog. Regards.
Posted by: Laz at October 26, 2008 03:19 PM (WuVXN) 48
Hugh: It's a matching analogy like you see on the SATs. What 43 is saying is, "Karl Rove is to George W. Bush what Bill Ayers is to Barack Obama," i.e. primary political mentor and strategist.
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