Barney Frank: Hey, You Know What We Need? A 25% Cut in Defense Spending During a War

Oh, and he's jazzed about blowing up social spending and raising taxes, too.

Frank told the editorial board of the SouthCoast Standard-Times that he wanted to reduce defense spending by a quarter, meaning the United States would have to withdraw from Iraq sooner.
"The people of Iraq want us out, and we want to stay over their objection," he said. "It's extraordinary."
Frank also said the post-election stimulus package will focus on spending for building projects, extending unemployment benefits, and further supporting states' healthcare costs. "We'll have to raise taxes ultimately," Frank said. "Not now, but eventually." Frank told the Standard-Times that if Democrats cannot secure the votes they need in November, they will try again in January, when they will likely have stronger majorities in the House and Senate.

More at Hot Air.

Including the notion of making Barney Fucking Frank the centerpiece of McCain's "divided government" argument.

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1 Yeah, let's try to tax our way out of a recession again... because that always works out so well. Stupid cocksucker.

Posted by: Watcher at October 24, 2008 04:25 PM (ltTYB)

2 Do you ever feel like your having a nightmare, and you just can't wake up?

Posted by: spypeach at October 24, 2008 04:26 PM (QwWKI)

3 spypeach, I know what you mean. This campaign has been so shocking at every turn that I'm almost numb.

Posted by: Bilby at October 24, 2008 04:27 PM (8iDn7)

4 What a brave man! I have so much respect for this politician who apparently believes is reducing the size of government more than most Republicans. Or do you guys forget that the military is part of government?

Posted by: Lizzie at October 24, 2008 04:28 PM (Kbl0/)

5 This idiot is a clear and present danger to the Republic. He needs to be removed from office at the earliest opportunity. He is mentally unstable and therefore unfit for office.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 24, 2008 04:28 PM (ZGhSv)

6 Only a 25% cut? That'll really have Putin/Chavez/etc quaking in their boots, I'm pretty sure they were counting on DoD being disbanded and replaced by KC and the Sunshine Band.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 24, 2008 04:28 PM (OqXyp)

7 He's certainly jazzed about blowing something...

Posted by: ECM at October 24, 2008 04:29 PM (q3V+C)

8 I just talked to some of my stupid neighbors who are backing Obama and said that he wouldn't hurt the military. I sent this link and I can't wait to see what stupid response they are going to have now. I guess my P-3C replacement, the P-8A Poseidon is going to cut chopped. Pretty soon, it'll be just sharp sticks and stones to repel the hordes.

Posted by: CDR M at October 24, 2008 04:29 PM (TJoU6)

9 2: I hear ya and feel ya, unfortunately.

Posted by: ECM at October 24, 2008 04:29 PM (q3V+C)

10 We're so fucking screwed if Senator Government is elected.

Posted by: SueM at October 24, 2008 04:31 PM (hme2f)

And is about the equivalent of deciding you need to lose weight because your a fat ass, and deciding the best way to do it is to chop off an arm and a leg. Sure you're losing weight but its not in the right places, and is a really retarded method.

Posted by: buzzion at October 24, 2008 04:32 PM (Lrsi6)

12 Stupid neighbours suck.

Posted by: Christoph at October 24, 2008 04:34 PM (hawOV)

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Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read “Vote Obama, I need the money.” I laughed.

Once in the restaurant my server had on a “Obama 08″ tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference — just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need–the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I’ve decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn,
but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient needed the money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

Posted by: CDR M at October 24, 2008 04:36 PM (TJoU6)

A black socialist and a promiscuous homosexual socialist may end up controlling my Country's destiny. God gave the pendulum a extra push for some reason.

Posted by: polynikes at October 24, 2008 04:36 PM (m2CN7)

15 Cocksucker!, wait, what?

Posted by: toby928 at October 24, 2008 04:38 PM (PD1tk)

16 Look on the brightside folks. They are beginning to actually say what they believe. This is a center right country, with some real anxiety right now, so they are panicking right now. If the left thinks that all of a sudden the general public doesn't mind paying high taxes and spending a boat load of money on crap, they are sorely mistaken. They are overplaying their hand in a big way. With this type of behavior, they get 4 years max.

Posted by: Judd at October 24, 2008 04:39 PM (BXHeE)

17 16 With this type of behavior, they get 4 years max.

I'm more scared of what they can do in 4 years of Obama as President with super-majorities in Congress for at least 2 of those years.

Between North Korea, Russia, and Iran alone, I figure that Barry can completely screw up foreign policy in permanent ways.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 24, 2008 04:42 PM (iBqpM)

18 I'm sure that Frank is confident that within a few weeks of The One's ascension with a super majority Dem congress we will no longer be at war.

Posted by: Stephen Macklin at October 24, 2008 04:44 PM (Py6NL)

19 This will guarantee the dems 100% of the cocksucker vote, which is apparently a much larger demographic than previusly thought.

Posted by: alycan at October 24, 2008 04:45 PM (Il2Ep)

20 If I'm Israel, I strike Iran's nuclear facilities on the 5th. It's low lunar illumination and it's after the election. Maybe this is what Biden was referiring to.

Posted by: CDR M at October 24, 2008 04:46 PM (TJoU6)

21 Pretty soon, it'll be just sharp sticks and stones to repel the hordes.

They'll be slashing the sharp stick and stone budget too.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 24, 2008 04:49 PM (OqXyp)

22 Buzzion:

Way to zing that she-troll.

Posted by: Milesdei at October 24, 2008 04:51 PM (ACHxk)

23 Maybe they'll add a sharp stick and stone tax to make up for the loss of the wooden arrow tax

Posted by: CDR M at October 24, 2008 04:52 PM (TJoU6)

24 Calthrop!

Posted by: toby928 at October 24, 2008 04:53 PM (PD1tk)

25 The lisping and sashaying Barney Frank does not even know that the No. 1 duty of our government is to provide security to its citizens! It's even spelled out in the Constitution. He can't see that anywhere in the document, but I sure as hell bet he sees the part that says he should be able to marry a male live-in pimp or a male vice-president of Fannie Mae. Or the part that explicitly guarantees that a woman should be able to have an abortion at any time for any reason. Or the part that says raising taxes is always a good idea. "That's all spelled out in those extra pages or those articles or something!" he would lisp while pocketing an earmark..

Posted by: dfbaskwill at October 24, 2008 04:57 PM (z6fKT)

26 It may be time to leave or cut back in Iraq - I don't feature that government having legal jurisdiction over our troops. If combat is over, get them the fuck out. They aren't Iraqi cops.
That doesn't mean the war is over. Frank is nuts to talk about cutting defense now - and we have all seen the vid of obama promising to dismantle our defense. Dangerous times.

Posted by: the real joe at October 24, 2008 04:57 PM (NJ/RA)

A major part of defense spending (something like 40%) is in personnel costs. So essentially Bawney Fwank is calling for either a freeze on pay raises, a reduction in personnel levels or some combination of each.

This scuzball, who has been involved in scandal after scandal, continues to be elected by the good lefties of Massachusetts who look down their nose at the rest of us as ignorant hillbillies. I can only hope that Karma is saving up something truly special for him.

Posted by: CavMedic at October 24, 2008 04:57 PM (rYFmu)

28 It may be time to leave or cut back in Iraq

You mean like has been happening for the past couple of months already?

Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 24, 2008 05:00 PM (OqXyp)

29 All your 401k are belong to us.

Bwahahahaha!!!!

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at October 24, 2008 05:03 PM (STXJ7)

30 besides decimating our defenses and that of the free world (who WANT missile defense etc - which obama will cancel) - this will further wreck the economy.

Posted by: reliapundit at October 24, 2008 05:05 PM (OgvfX)

31 All your 401k are belong to us

Good one, apropos also

Posted by: dfbaskwill at October 24, 2008 05:05 PM (z6fKT)

32 Frank probably does not even know that we have turned over 14 provinces to the Iraqi's already. Paging the DOJ already for this turds investigation for Fannie and Freddie. Anytime now please.

Posted by: CDR M at October 24, 2008 05:06 PM (TJoU6)

33 "A 25% Cut in Defense Spending During a War"

Cut? Hell, a cut may not be necessary. 25% of personnel may unvolunteer on its own should Team Obama win.

Thanks, Nancy Barney!

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 24, 2008 05:08 PM (sI5Ho)

34 I just talked to some of my stupid neighbors who are backing Obama and said that he wouldn't hurt the military.

Reality is going to kick a lot of Obama voters straight in the nuts. I'm going to do nothing but laugh in their faces.

It'll be like America's Funniest Home Videos writ large.

Posted by: stinky esposito at October 24, 2008 05:15 PM (MMC8r)

35 Where did people think the extra Obama Economic Plan money was going to come from? Defense is the largest chunk of our budget. So basically:

1] Increase the war effort in Afghanistan and Pakistan while cutting back in Iraq.

2] Put a timetable on Iraq for withdrawal to make more costly war later.

3] Cut an already stretched DoD budget to spread wealth around [to some who are perfectly able to JOIN the military and contribute]

Don't get me wrong, I think the DoD budget needs to be streamlined, but not cut. Not while we are fighting two wars.

Posted by: TMQ at October 24, 2008 05:18 PM (aMu45)

36 How about dropping by the "Fake But....Fake. Idiot Made Up Story About Being Assulted For Being A McCain Supporter" thread once an hour or so, guys, to help us fight the fuck-heads? There's only me and Christoph fighting the good fight there and we're the foreigners so it's not even really our fight. Don't you guys want to fight back?

Posted by: andycanuck at October 24, 2008 05:18 PM (GGy7k)

37 Sorry, Rant Off. Topic hits too close to home.

Posted by: TMQ at October 24, 2008 05:18 PM (aMu45)

OK. If Barney wants to be front and center here, let's go.

Herb Moses, Frank's former boytoy, was hired by Fannie Mae at his request. So were a bunch of other unqualified homos who were in their "social circle." There's a giant gay mafia at Fannie Mae.

When Moses and Frank broke up, Moses lost his job at Fannie Mae. He was not competent to do the job he had and he was no longer of use to them when he stopped shtupping Barney.

Who wants to know why they broke up? It might be rather interesting for Barney if the question were asked by someone.

Posted by: Got the goods on Barney at October 24, 2008 05:18 PM (iZqUY)

39
Well, at least Frank provides clarity about this election. By that I mean: if a majority of Americans vote for Obama even after what Barney Frank says, then we know where that majority stands on such fundamental issues as the role of government and how they want to be governed. There's no ambiguity here. Which means that there need be no ambiguity in my views--nor in my actions. If Obama becomes president I'm going to become one hell of a reactionary. And an obstructionist. I'm going to do whatever is within my power to wreck, confound, and frustrate an Obama presidency. In other words, my behavior is going to mirror that of liberals and leftists in the Bush years. Except, hopefully, I'll be more effective. Patriotism my ass: see how they like it for a change.

Posted by: Steve (aka Ed Snate) at October 24, 2008 05:20 PM (vursn)

40 TMQ, the defense budget is NOT the largest part of our budget!! I believe entitlements are at over 55% of the budget! Defense budget is around 5%.

Posted by: CDR M at October 24, 2008 05:21 PM (TJoU6)

41
Re #16: This is a center right country ...

People keep saying that, but is it true? It seems to me that the center-right is becoming a minority in this country. Wouldn't Obama's election show that to be the case?

Posted by: Steve (aka Ed Snate) at October 24, 2008 05:24 PM (vursn)

42 It really does seem that some people just beg to be victims of hate crimes....

Posted by: Jazz at October 24, 2008 05:26 PM (hnq5i)

The Government workers he doesn't give a shit about.

Pity I'm one of them.

Posted by: MlR at October 24, 2008 05:29 PM (PLmsY)

44
If I'm Israel, I strike Iran's nuclear facilities on the 5th. It's low lunar illumination and it's after the election. Maybe this is what Biden was referiring to.

Yes, I think it's one scenario Biden was referencing. For once, Biden is right. As soon as Obama is elected our enemies are going to start testing his resolve. In practical terms that means war. Probably multiple wars. As well as hostile economic and political action. An Obama presidency is going see war and conflict, lots of it.

Posted by: Steve (aka Ed Snate) at October 24, 2008 05:29 PM (vursn)

45 Holy shit...I'm going to vote early then shoot my tv and hide until November 5.

Posted by: doonuts at October 24, 2008 05:33 PM (7dM8y)

Or do you guys forget that the military is part of government?

Yeah, by far the most important part, and one of the only parts in whose involvement the federal government has any native constitutional authority (unlike say, "Social Security" or Medicare or whatever bullshit treasury-busting handout schemes you Marxist slugs have imposed upon this country). But yeah, let's cut it!

Imbecile.

Posted by: VJay at October 24, 2008 05:54 PM (k87Wm)

47 Beans N. Franks is taken us all for his bath house buddies.

Posted by: Michelle's American White Racist at October 24, 2008 06:03 PM (NLtVk)

48 Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the Department of Peace, HR 808. Coming soon to the US near you!
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c110:1:./temp/~c110ufiQnU:e7718:

Posted by: CDR M at October 24, 2008 06:39 PM (TJoU6)

49 CDR M,

The link is only temporarily valid, but I searched and found HR 808, the silliness you found. Just wow. Check this out:
SEC. 103. PRINCIPAL OFFICERS. (a) Under Secretary of Peace and Nonviolence- There shall be in the Department an Under Secretary of Peace and Nonviolence, who shall be appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate. During the absence or disability of the Secretary, or in the event of a vacancy in the office of the Secretary, the Under Secretary shall act as Secretary. The Secretary shall designate the order in which other officials of the Department shall act for and perform the functions of the Secretary during the absence or disability of both the Secretary and Under Secretary or in the event of vacancies in both of those offices. (b) Additional Positions- (1) There shall be in the Department-- (A) an Assistant Secretary for Peace Education and Training; (B) an Assistant Secretary for Domestic Peace Activities; (C) an Assistant Secretary for International Peace Activities; (D) an Assistant Secretary for Technology for Peace; (E) an Assistant Secretary for Arms Control and Disarmament; (F) an Assistant Secretary for Peaceful Coexistence and Nonviolent Conflict Resolution; (G) an Assistant Secretary for Human and Economic Rights; and (H) a General Counsel.
So who is in charge of all the scalpels for de-balling? I don't see any Assistant Secretary for Castrations mentioned anywhere. I think an amendment to the bill is in order.

We are well and truly screwed.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 24, 2008 06:50 PM (sI5Ho)

50 Sorry 'bout the formatting. It looked OK when I pasted it. Pixy's HTML-FU doesn't like lists from the government.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 24, 2008 06:52 PM (sI5Ho)

51 Barney Frank? Isn't that the fraud in Congress that was gettin' boned by a guy from Fannie Mae - Herb Moses? Takin' campaign contributions from 'em? Votin' down any form of oversight?

What a POS.

Posted by: apb at October 24, 2008 06:56 PM (4Ac/Q)

52 Department of Peace will be run by ???? Ayers anyone??? Maybe Ward Churchill??

Posted by: CDR M at October 24, 2008 07:55 PM (TJoU6)

Fuck it. If these scumbags control congress and the White House after November 4, my nephew is out of the army. Three tours in Iraq are enough and I will not let him die because these commie fucks have gutted the DoD. My family has bled enough for this country and if people want these cocksuckers in office then no one in my family will wear the uniform again.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at October 24, 2008 08:01 PM (fCm+Q)

54 What is it with these cocksuckers and their insatiable desire to raise taxes? Why does it excite them so much? Why are they always salivating at the prospect?

Posted by: Kensington at October 24, 2008 08:20 PM (xFNQx)

55 This is so typical of the illuminati liberal left. "Hey, let's abandon the cause that hundreds of our own men and women have died fighting for, when we're so close to victory, so we can go and build some more bridges at home."

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