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Patterico is all over them because there is, of course, recorded evidence -- the long-ago posting of a blog entry by an Obama supporter who attended the political meet-and-greet. (That entry is now deleted, but it lives on in Google cache).

But what Patterico should be nailing them for is far more egregious.

It turns out the LAT is claiming the allegation is false -- utterly false -- because they're quibbling with the word "launched." Another witness, they say, says she remembers there being other coffees before this one, and therefore he didn't "launch" his campaign from Ayers' living room.

But note the LAT does not explain that narrow distinction when the label the story false. They claim it is false in both broad outline as well as in the particulars. They do not take the one sentence necessary to explain, properly, that while there is some dispute about whether this was the first coffee, there is no dispute the coffee actually happened, and indeed may have been the first as well.

Instead, they just echo Barack Obama's obnoxiously dishonest blanket denial -- concealing the fact that that denial is being made on extremely narrow grounds.

Apparently they can take the time to explain this very narrow disputation to Patterico in an email, but don't believe it should be shared with the general public.

Posted by: Ace at 07:35 PM

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2 Obama did this during the debate when he responded to McCain...he specifically accentuated the word "launched" when he said that he DIDN'T "launch" hi political career in Ayres living room. Obama emphasized the word "launched."

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One more time, Ace, it was a fucking sitting room not a living room so you're story is crap. Racist!

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8 Some fool at the LA Times will later win a Pulitzer for exposing the fact that Obama began his political career in Ayres living room. Maybe even a Nobel Prize to go with it!

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9 Was Obama's political career launched from the same living room in which Ayers babysat Obama's children?

Was the idea hatched when they worked together in the same office?

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10 I guess it all depends on what your meaning of the word "Launch" is? Where have we heard this before? When was the last time we had a fatherless- growing-up lawyer and his lawyer wife in the White House?

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Posted by: The Raving Atheist at October 22, 2008 08:47 PM (Xopk4)

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1) I did not forget to renew, but the hosting company (1&1) gave me bad information about what I needed to do to renew. This was only straightened out Monday night, thanks to at least two miscues on their part.

2) They're being really slow about doing the transfer.

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And I think we can all agree that we would certainly trust a faceless representative of a faceless company who makes a seemingly sincere assurance over the phone.

Now if you'll pardon me, I have to go to sleep. And, given Frank's personal assurance, you can bet I'll sleep like a baby.

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