1 Time to get into this reporter's past.

2 There is no longer any difference between the MSM and Soviet Pravda.

Qwinn

3 Transcript for those of us without audio?

4 Who's the reporter?

5 The other networks will descend on CNN and this reporter, headlining a job poorly done, holding the journalists responsible to account.

Just kidding.

6 I am usually not at all surprised when the media leeches who swing from the nutsack of the great Messiah screw up royally in their reporting, but this is truly amazing.

7 What's his name?

You know, the press will turn on Obama if he is made president. He will control the message and they will feel his control. These guys are not just liberals, they are corporate entities and if they can't do their job because of the jack boot on their necks, they will turn and bite. We'll see if he's as good as Clinton at feeding them worthless goodies to keep them under control.

In the end, I WANT McCain to win so he can poke their eyes during press briefings, he won't pull any punches!

8 I believe that's Drew Griffin for CNN. Maybe he's atoning for so much truth telling about ACORN.

9

Me too on the transcript, work computers have no audio. (I appreciate it.) That said, I already know where this is going.

In a way, though, this can't do anything but backfire. This will be highly spread by the McCain campaign, who will raise unholy hell about it, and more folks will be made aware of just how in the tank the media is for Obama. For this to come directly after the Joe the Plumber sliming, they're trying to give us the election.

They just can't help themselves, the arrogant bastards.

10 Meanwhile, Joe Biden is locked in a broom closet somewhere.

11 I wonder if this interview make Peggy Noonan feel better about herself?

12 ASSHOLE: I can't tell if Sarah Palin is Sarah Palin is incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt, backward, or — or, well, all of the above.

SARAH: Who wrote that?

ASSHOLE: That was in the National Review.

SARAH: I'd like to talk to that person.

13

Shame on her for appearing and bigger shame on McCain for letting her appear. Did they really think this would benefit them in any way?

 

14 SHIT ... screwed it up.

I can't tell if Sarah Palin is incompetent ...


I thought she answered the question very well. Too bad she didn't know the exact quote and called him a LIAR!

15

"Meanwhile, Joe Biden is locked in a broom closet somewhere."

With a ball gag and gimp mask.

16 Jackasses.  Good answer by Mrs. Grace, though.

17 Her reaction was great!

18

I don't have time to be watching some BS hack job, but if that asshole asked her a question about how she should respond to somone that said she is "...incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt, backward, or — or, well, all of the above", then it doesn't matter who he supports.  How the hell is that question even REMOTELY fair ?  And this from an allegedly respectable news outlet, CNN.  That's what passes for an intelligent interview ??? 

Unbelievable.

19

Let's see: Dan Quayle gets handed a spelling bee card (prepared by a card carrying highly competent member of the National Teacher's Union) which misspells the word "potato"---the highly competent and professional but underpaid teacher had added an "e" on the end of the word.

Being about as prepared as Biden (after all Quayle had spent 12 years in Congress and the Senate--an experience which tends to dumb a person down) Quayle asked the kid how to spell "potato"--the kid spelled it correctly, but Quayle looked at the back of the spelling bee card and told the kid his answer was incorrect.

Well the main stream media putzes jumped all over this --said Quayle was so doggone that he didn't even know how to spell "potato".  They said he was a doofus and yo yo and so stupid he didn't belong in the V-P's office.

Well lookee here: MSM journalist one of the truly intelligent wise men of all tie gets handed an incomplete and incorrect script by his producer.  Isn't he stoopid, a dooofusss and a yo yo yo!!!

Well, I say it's time to call for a complete investigation into the background of  "Joanne The Teacher" who slipped Quayle that spurious card---and maybe also maybe the background of  Jack Off the Producer who slipped the reader the spurious question. .

20

I really think my guess that it's a producer who gave him the question since he didn't know who wrote the piece is likely true. So um, maybe I was a little quick on the 'asshat' 'shill' and 'fire' trigger.

Remember, it was Mary Mapes, who was the producer of the Rathergate story on the forged documents, who really did most of the legwork on that story.

I would easily believe that a producer fed him that question, though he bears responsibility for actually using it on air.

Dan Rather's big mistake was standing by the story and not throwing Mapes, deservedly, under the bus. If ill-served by a producer, Drew Griffin had better salvage his credibility by on-air apologizing, and naming the producer/researcher who misled him and made him look like an ass while interviewing the potential Vice President of the United States.

21

And this is why if McCain/Palin lose this year, I don't see her running again in 2012.  She knows the elitist assholes in the GOP don't support her....why put yourself out there for those idiots again?  She sees us getting to choose between a decent man who has dedicated himself to a lifetime of service to the nation and a flat out lying socialist.  If the flat out lying socialist wins, well.....

You want Palin in 2012 or 2016, you'd better vote McCain/Palin this year.

22 Lowry updates

UPDATE: TPM updates to note CNN distorted the quote.
Also, I’m told the full interview included this from the interviewer (although I haven’t seen it yet): "But they were talking about the fact that your experience as governor is not getting out. Do you feel trapped in this campaign that your message is not getting out and if so who do you blame?"

--------

Sounds like to me, TPM are douchebags and got called out

23 headline should read "Succeeded"....loose shit,Ace.

but not nearly as loose as the Ministry of Propaganda-CNN section....somebody email Drew and get him investigating closer to home..

24

 I believe that's Drew Griffin for CNN. Maybe he's atoning for so much truth telling about ACORN.

 

Perhaps they locked him the break room and injected the kool-aid back into his veins. 

25

ASSHOLE: That was in the National Review.

SARAH: I'd like to talk to that person.

Since the author was Byron York, albeit in a much different context than implied, I think having a nice long talk/interview with York would be an excellent idea.

York is a solid journalist, maybe the best thing they've got over there.

Air it unedited on the Internet, a good half hour to hour long interview with him so folks can go and check it out themselves, and get an unfiltered view of how she thinks. Even throw her a tough but fair curveball or two.

26 The media is unable and unwilling to quote conservatives accurately.

27 Nope, CNN peeps were being jerks and the crackerjacks at TPM went right along with it.

28 If I were at the National Review, I'd be having counsel contact CNN.

Not that much could be done, but just to make it clear they're being watched.

29

"Perhaps they locked him the break room and injected the kool-aid back into his veins."

Wait...maybe he was the one in the ball gag and gimp mask.

NTTAWWT.

30 Fuck it, Drew, don't feel bad. Works for CNN = asshat/shill, regardless of a good story or two.

Even Glenn Beck was smart enough to bail on CNN for Fox News. I think it's better that these networks become total liberal bastions without a single conservative voice - makes things more obvious for the American people.

31 Check out the update, there was more to the question but I think it was still wildly out of context.

Here's the link to the extended transcript.

32 York is a solid journalist, maybe the best thing they've got over there.

Yeah, York was the one who put "Tito the Builder" and his confrontation with journalists on the map, and Sarah is now using Tito in her stump speech.

I love Tito - "Here's my passport! In your face!" and "I was born in Columbia but made in America."

33 I'd like to see Palin do the Glenn and Helen Show over on Instapundit.  You know he'd ask tough but fair questions and we'd get an accurate report of the whole thing.

34

The only reason it's a plausible question is because NR publishes Brookhiser, Parker, Frum, and a lot of other folks who have said this kind of crapola.  And KJ Lopez keeps fluffing Peggy Noonan over there too.

So NR can cry that they are being treated unfairly, but I don't really expect their complaint to carry much water.  Byron York personally has a fair gripe, but NR as an institution?  not so much

35 Maybe Drew is trying to salvage what's left of his career at CNN...the bigwigs probably told him they might forgive his earlier blasphemy if he brought them the head of Sarah Palin...

36

Yeah, York was the one who put "Tito the Builder" and his confrontation with journalists on the map, and Sarah is now using Tito in her stump speech.

 

We're well on our way to having our very own full-service Village People.  Karl Rove is out searching right now for a disgruntled police officer and a skeptical Native American Indian.

Oops, was that racist?

37 Fuck NR and fuck everyone who works for them and the Atlantic.

And, K-Lo is FAT, FAT, FAT.

38

I think you all are misinterpreting this.

The point of the Byron York article was that Sarah Palin was being mishandled by her, um, handlers, and that that was leading to negative press.  Drew was asking if she agreed, and he mangled a quote from the article in the process.

I say it was an honest mistake.

39

her reply was awesom though, she asked him 3 times who wrote it and he would not say.

Then she said i would like to talk to that person. She handled him.

Whining it was a hack job is useless. And not needed. She handled him.  Her rally's were good today to. She hammered Biden and Senator Government for the coming crisis he will endure.

In that interview she said if she were to say what biden did she would have been "clobbered" for it.

40 You all are off base on this one-  after she interrupted, he finished the question-

"But they were talking about the fact that your experience as governor is not getting out.  Do you feel trapped in this campaign, that your message is not getting out, and if so who do you blame?"

That's a fair and fairly softball question.

41 More skulls for Sarah the Barbarian Queen to put under her throne when she rips Alaska away and establishes a libertarian Paradise on Earth....

fuck, except for the weather. Damn, I'd sign up for Sarah's Barbarian Horde right the fuck now if it wasn't for the weather. Goddamn.

42 Sarah answered with grace and humor.  Good grief, she is so unbelievably much better at this than either of those dweebs on the other side . . .

43 TomM,

Nope, look at the question

"Governor, you've been mocked in the press, the press has been pretty hard on you, the Democrats have been pretty hard on you, but also some conservatives have been pretty hard on you as well.  The National Review had a story saying that, you know, I can't tell if Sarah Palin is incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt or all of the above."

York's point was to critique the media coverage. The way Griffin asked was as if NR actually was making that charge.

Also, based on her answer Palin clearly interpreted the way we are.

44 The question is perfectly designed to trigger the "I'm not voting this time because McCain sucks, but I can't wait to vote for Palin in 2012" crowd.  But you guys still fall for it....you really can't see that the MSM is playing you for chumps?

45 When National Review allows columnists like Kathleen Parker and invites others like Peggy Noonan to publish their articles with them should there really be a surprise?

No. The media will and has used such article excerpts as cannon fodder against conservative candidates.

This is an unfair advantage to democrats. For example, CNN reporters are not going through Puffington Post or The Nation looking for controversial quotes to throw at democrat candidates.

46

Okay, but check this out. Add in the subordinate clause, it doesn't change the substance of the question.

"Governor, you've been mocked in the press, the press has been pretty hard on you, the Democrats have been pretty hard on you, but also some conservatives have been pretty hard on you as well.  The National Review had a story saying that, you know, [based on the media coverage], I can't tell if Sarah Palin is incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt or all of the above."

But [Byron was] talking about the fact that your experience as governor is not getting out.  Do you feel trapped in this campaign, that your message is not getting out, and if so who do you blame?

47 Posted by: staghounds at October 21, 2008 07:16 PM (lsmjU)

There's a difference in saying the media is doing a hack job in reporting on you and 'your message isn't getting out and who is to blame'. The fuller context of the quote shows York was answering that question and not making a statement about what he thought of Palin.

If she did interrupt and give that answer he should have asked it again and clarified what he meant or they should have not run the bite.

48

Her answer is indeed awesome....she doesn't fall into the "yes, McCain is holding me back" trap, and she doesn't get pissed off (visibly) that the elitist "conservative" creeps have bashed her.

Perhaps Drew Griffin could do an interview where he asks Joe Biden if he knows how to count to 3?  Or if Biden has helped Obama to figure out that there are only 50 states in the USA? 

49 Heck, that's a question we all were asking a few weeks ago, wasn't it?

50 Funky

After what Biden said, I hope that Noonan, Frum, Hebert, Parker et al feel like gynormous assholes. 26 years and Biden says that, and they're feeling out of the loop because Palin doesn't speak their brand of articulate pure bullshit, but pedestrian straight talk.

After Palin's great dressing down to day this

"But I guess the looming crisis that most worries the Obama campaign right now is Joe Biden’s next speaking engagement. Let’s call that crisis scenario number five."

must have felt might nice to say and I hope Noonan and Parker felt an inch tall.

51 inch tall gynormous assholes - heh

52 Posted by: TomM. at October 21, 2008 07:22 PM (dr1s2)

Of course it changes the substance of the question. The question he asked asks her to refute a statement purportedly made by NR. The other one asks her to critique the media of her.

How can you say they are the same?

53

Popcorn ~ I'd like to see Palin do the Glenn and Helen Show over on Instapundit.  You know he'd ask tough but fair questions and we'd get an accurate report of the whole thing.

Ironically, this is the top post at Insty's place right now.

ORSON SCOTT CARD on journalism. "Your job, as journalists, is to tell the truth. That's what you claim you do, when you accept people's money to buy or subscribe to your paper. But right now, you are consenting to or actively promoting a big fat lie."

54 Okay, but check this out. Add in the subordinate clause, it doesn't change the substance of the question.

Oh, give us a break! People hear what is said and don't stop and diagram sentences. If Griffin can't ask a question that doesn't confuse the majority of people, he should get out of the business. I don't believe it was a mistake.

55 Griffin needs to be vetted...

...and I am reaching the limits of my tolerance of the MSM. That was just plain BS.

56

He's not asking her to critique the media, he's asking her to critique her handlers.  That was the point of the question.

57 51 inch tall gynormous assholes - heh

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at October 21, 2008 07:26 PM (0OWQO)

Hah!  We can let them be 6 inch tall gynormous assholes :-)

58 Posted by: TomM. at October 21, 2008 07:30 PM (dr1s2)

That's the follow up. Now if the handler question is the one they wanted an answer to, why don't they use that soundbite and take out the non-responsive answer?

59

527 group working in Colorado:

 http://tinyurl.com/68wde4

60 Has anyone seen the MSNBC video of Sarah Palin talking about Bidens speech about Obama being tested? I'm seeing that Sarah Palin is finally getting comfortable now that the pit bull is off the leash.

61 Unwittingly or no, National Review lends its credibility to anyone who has their written work published with them.

This includes David Frum and Kathleen Parker. In particular, Ms. Parker has taken it upon herself to recommend Gov. Palin be returned to her Alaska kitchen barefoot and in curlers.

For Drew Giffin at CNN to inaccurately quote Byron or Jonah is one thing. He should be called to account on it (but sadly won't).

But when Kathryn Lopez this week invites Peggy Noonan to publish her work at National Review she is slapping Peggy's articles with the Seal of National Review Approval. Great!

When was the late time you saw quotes taken (accurately or no) from The Atlantic, The New Republic, or equivalent and thrown democrat candidates?

62 Maybe Griffin's job was threatened...

63 TomC, the 'five crises of Biden' video by Palin is excellent.

64

Becase Drew Griffin worded the question badly, I'm thinking.  He wanted to ask the question that Byron asked in the article (who screwed up your rollout?), but it didn't come out right.

(transcript just went up... http://tinyurl.com/58zq3h)

 

65 A bit of antidote to all that.

66 You know, Drew Giffin has performed some excellent reports of late on ACORN and such. I suspect that is why he was selected to conduct the interview. His recent Special Investigative Unit reports have astonished Anderson Cooper and his ilk.

No question, he messed up the quote and won't be held to account.

But I think Gov. Palin handled it splendidly.

67

I just read the whole transcript, and it looks like DrewG. generally asked excellent questions, which supports my position that the one bad question was a one-off.

Good stuff from Palin.  She needs to shorten her sentences, though.

68

Why do I keep remembering the old Far Side cartoon, the one with the vultures sitting on the dead tree?  You know... where the one says "I'm tired of waiting, let's kill something."  I'm tired of waiting for the MSM to die.  It needs killing real bad.

 

69 Tom,

I agree. She ran on with her first answer in particular.

Otherwise, she was great!

70 She needs to talk like everything she says was written by Matthew Scully, I'm thinking.

71 Sherlock,

Are you from "cling-to" country?

72

Consider one of the best answers John McCain gave to a question.

"When do a baby's human rights begin?"

"From the moment of conception."

That's all you need sometimes.

"..who do you blame?"

"I won't mention his name, but I let him go yesterday."

73 TomM,

Ya. It would be nice if she would throw something back at the interviewer sometime. Like she did in her response to the misquote from Byron or Jonah.

74 I would have loved to have seen Gov. Palin throw a question back at Katie Couric like, well, do you know how many Eskimo tribes there are in Alaska?

75 Respond to no more quotes from the media unless they produce the quote in context from the original source.  Make them prove themselves.

Of course, there are more damaging quotes in context about Obama from his own running mate, but those are down the memory hole, aren't they?

76 This is a media war. i think some of the blame lies with the guy who wrote the article.

Journos and politicians have to be careful with irony. You should not say the opposite of what you mean, it WILL get taken out of context.

OK you can use it if you're a blogger but that's because blogs work in a different way to official speeches and the printed media. They are supposed to be informal and disrespectful. This discourages formal word-for-word quotes and it takes the sting out of criticism, because it's bound to have some tongue in cheek.

You have to ask yourself, if you took the start and end off this sentence, and put some ellipses and stuck it next to another half a sentence from 10 pages later, can it be used against me or my allies.

Irony is a sure way to get in trouble, not because the public are too dumb to get it, only lefties are, but because of warlike journalism in the enemy camp.

77 I put a link to the full transcript in an update. I'd say he just had a bad moment or some bad prep information. Overall he's been the only decent reporter at CNN and the rest of the interview is more than fair.

78 My work here is done, then.

79 Posted by: TomM. at October 21, 2008 08:02 PM (dr1s2)

No, the question still sucked. I'm just not saying he's a total hack as I originally thought. I haven't changed my opinion on the question itself one bit.

80

O'reily is "going there" with the Ayers.  Audio tape and that book blurb.  Nice.

81

Well, I did say the question was worded badly (#64).  And that he mangled the quote (#3.  So I do think the question sucked.

But, I think that "Byron York blames a good amount of your bad press on the fact that you were immediately surrounded by a bunch of incompetent Bushie moron handlers who somehow turned you into Scott McClellan for your Couric interview.  Does that sound about right?" is an EXCELLENT question.  And it's the question asked by the Byron York article.

82 #68, Sherlock, there's a few ripoffs of that one that were popular with AFSOC guys, particularly Spectre gunship crews. There's a bunch of AC-130 crew patches with the vultures and "Patience my ass, I'm gonna go kill something."  Google Images should find you some examples.

83

Actually, it's pretty simple.  If he was only asking about her reaction to the media's horrible portrayal of her, he did not, in any way shape of form, need to include the "incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt, backward, or — or, well, all of the above" quote.  It was unnecessary and therefore added by choice.  Why ?  Clearly so the audience - regardless of the context, point of the question, or the answer - could link Sarah Palin with the words incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt, and backwards.

And it really doesn't matter if it was done intentionally, or just out of habit due to an inherent liberal bias by either the reporter or his producer.  It all comes from the same place.

84
Tom, sorry, but the question as it was asked was strongly misleading, although it may have had a good point. And the correspondent should have known the source of the quotation; if he had, Sarah probably would have responded in a much more substantive way.

That being said, her reply was awesome: she didn't cringe or retreat or apologize, but stood her ground. A bad question led to a great moment.

And on the whole, I thought it was a good interview: some softball questions, some probing ones, and for the most part a civil tone. And I didn't see the positive bits being left on the cutting room floor.

Whoever said that she need to shorten her answers is absolutely right. Contrast her reply to the Biden question, with her reply to the mangled York quotation: the former meanders, as it seems she's fighting her way through the coaching; while the latter is brief, pungent, and sharp. Also, it seems that she focuses when she's angry; with most people, anger makes us lose control. I would not want to be an official facing a pissed-off Sarah Palin!

85 O'reily is "going there" with the Ayers.  Audio tape and that book blurb.  Nice.

If a tree falls on Fox News, does anybody hear it?

86

Posted by: deadrody at October 21, 2008 08:29 PM (aCKVb)

winner!

87 "or the answer - could link Sarah Palin with the words incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt, and backwards."

He not only included them to link Palin to the words, but to put Palin on the defensive and cause a unflattering response. He was fishing for a poor reaction from Palin. It was deliberate and obvious to me.

88

The National Review (and the lateWilliam F. Buckley, Jr.) have always been elitist, looking down their noses at middle class conservatives. They would far rather hobnob with liberal elitists than be caught dead with a middle class conservative from Dayton, OH. 

F#ck the National Review, Anyone who supports it is a fool.

 

89 "They would far rather hobnob with liberal elitists than be caught dead with a middle class conservative from Dayton, OH. "

Boy, ain't that the truth! 

90 Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by incompetence. Although after the last two months...

91 Would CNN go after Obama this way? Not in a million fucking years.

Not even if it was a live boy or a dead girl. Not even.

Our press corps needs a RICO prosecution or two, scare 'em straight - as in straight reporting.

If they're actively colluding, AND THEY ARE, to exclude differing opinions, then it's no longer about free speech but about suppressing speech.

92

Is violence the only check available on the Fourth Estate?

 

93 internal sabotage of an apostate.

We won't be hearing much from Drew Griffen on CNN.  He ought to just quit, issue a personal apology, and look for a job at Fox.

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