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| Joe Biden: Elect Obam And The World Will Test Him UPDATE: Link To Audio AddedOn the same day Colin Powell's endorsement is supposed to end the worries about Obama's inexperience (according to none other than Newt Gingrich), Joe Biden was reminding people how dangerous it will be to elect the inexperienced Obama. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."It's like an inversion of Kerry's Global Test. But hey Obama is bright, clean and articulate so he'll probably do okay, right? And you can trust Biden's judgment about Obama and his ability to handle a crisis because... "I've forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know"Gee a novice and a jackass at the helm of the US government in a time of crisis, what could go wrong? UPDATE: Cuffy found the audio. Enjoy Joe in all his glory. Comments1
I dropped my program - which one is the jackass?
Posted by: Murph at October 20, 2008 11:50 AM (Dw2sU) Posted by: right at October 20, 2008 11:51 AM (pMGkg) 3
If Hillary wins in 2012, expect Scranton Joe to get a plum position in her cabinet.
Posted by: BrandonInBatonRouge at October 20, 2008 11:53 AM (iBqpM) 4
And if McCain mentions this he will be accused of trying to scare voters. You can't tell the truth about democrats - that's smearing Posted by: BuckNutty at October 20, 2008 11:54 AM (ZY6M2) 5
Newt's a EGO MANIACAL idiot that talks just to hear himself talk, He'd be a\t the opening of an umbrella if there were cameras & reporters
Posted by: PaRep at October 20, 2008 11:54 AM (dWdDN) 6
Colin Powell loved the inexperienced and completely unserious GW Bush in 2000, and got to be a top advisor for his troubles.
Colin Powell loves the inexperienced and completely marxist Obama in 2008, and gets to be a top advisor (or so he thinks) for his troubles. Posted by: funky chicken at October 20, 2008 11:56 AM (xyyHG) 7
God bless ya Joe
Posted by: toby928: Caesarist at October 20, 2008 11:56 AM (evdj2) 8
Recessions end when you elect Democrats. They start when you elect Republicans.
Wars start when you elect Republicans. They end when you elect Democrats. I get paid for this you bitches. Posted by: David Gergen at October 20, 2008 11:56 AM (AHrTm) Posted by: Ron. at October 20, 2008 11:57 AM (+Siwg) 10
Of course it could be a "manufactured crisis" designed to make The One look good. In exchange for future considerations.
Posted by: buzz at October 20, 2008 11:57 AM (kwhut) 11
"I've forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know"
I've got a bad feeling that he's telling the truth here. Posted by: RayJ at October 20, 2008 11:58 AM (87de7) 12
This is why you gotta love Joe Biden. But seriously, doesn't this comment make you wonder if he knows something? Its such a weird comment to make--not his usual lie or gaffe; more of a foreshadowing.
Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 20, 2008 11:58 AM (ioTid) 13
Biden's famous crack about foreign experience, if taken literally, assumes one thing...
...that he has at least remembered the majority of what he's learned. I think that might be too much to hope for. Posted by: Michael Fisk at October 20, 2008 11:58 AM (8YgdQ) 14
He's also forgotten more than he remembers... or ever knew.
Posted by: someone at October 20, 2008 11:59 AM (nO8K/) 15
As an wife to an active duty marine, more "testing" is just what I and the rest of this country needs. He'll cut military spending [the defense budget is where he's going to get the $$ to cover his plans] and then he's going to overextend us more.
I'm really afraid of what he's going to do to the military. I really am. He has no concept of the military. My bet is that he doesn't even know the difference between a platoon and a battalion. Posted by: TMQ at October 20, 2008 12:00 PM (aMu45) 16
What the hell does that mean?
It means that Joe, in his self-defeating way, got his Chomsky quotes mixed up. Obama may be inexperienced but we already know what Obama's response will be to such a "generated crisis," right? Posted by: adamthemad at October 20, 2008 12:00 PM (kIjlp) 17
Newt's a EGO MANIACAL idiot that talks just to hear himself talk, He'd be a\t the opening of an umbrella if there were cameras & reporters I really want to like Newt. When he's "on" he's the best thing out there. But I fear you may be right and he didn't really learn his lesson 10 years ago. Posted by: buzz at October 20, 2008 12:01 PM (kwhut) 18
Joe Biden: Elect Obama And The World Will Test Him Who the hell wouldn't? If I were Putin, Achmedinijad, Kim Jong-Il, or hell even Steven Harper, I'd certainly press the envelope to see what I could get away with. They'll be saying in their minds: "New guy needs to be broken in..." Posted by: EC at October 20, 2008 12:01 PM (mAhn3) 19
i thought biden said in the primaries that barry was not ready to lead....did he change his mind?
Posted by: el guapo at October 20, 2008 12:02 PM (LelGr) 20
The other issue with Joe's speech is he's got a big fucking mouth. Both campaigns have been given information from the WH, and I am sure some of it is highly classified, and here's Joe on the campaign trail dropping subtle hints. Both BO and Joe cannot be trusted with running our country. Period.
I really believe BO and big fucking mouth Joe are going to lose. Think about it, six days ago, BO's national average was 8.2, now it's 4.8. Marc Lemont Hill, far left-wing commentator on Fox, a BIG Obama supporter, feels very strongly that if Obama is not up by 6-8 points nationally on Nov. 4, he will more than likely lose the election. Also most state polls are done by local papers and highly tilted towards the Dems. A Pennsylvania poll had Obama up by 12, down from 16 a week ago. Here's their breakdown: 54% Dem, 40% Rep, and 6% Ind. Keep the faith, people. Posted by: incognito at October 20, 2008 12:03 PM (Rpam5) 21
I couldn't believe my eyes when I read that ludicrous statement from biden. But you know what? Now republicans can use that assanine comment against them. They should. Foreign affairs is McCain's strong suit so he should definitely go after them on that
Posted by: Sassypants at October 20, 2008 12:04 PM (GZnSB) 22
Powell prevailed in 1992 when he argued to leave Saddam Hussein in power. Because he won that argument, the Shia and Kurds suffered massive attacks from Saddam's forces....which then forced us to protect those populations for over a decade, and at an expense of tens of billions of dollars. Surely even Newt Gingrich remembers our having to devote our Air Force to patrolling the no fly zones?
Powell's judgement has been demonstrably poor since 1992. I was honestly shocked that GW Bush courted him back in 2000. Posted by: funky chicken at October 20, 2008 12:04 PM (xyyHG) 23
I believe both candidates have been receiving intelligence briefings since the nominations were secured. Biden is probably referring to an attack on Israel by Iran with Russia threatening to get involved if we move to protect our ally. Barack will back down and leave Israel to her own defenses and emasculate the U.S., hence the disappointment.
Posted by: Usful Ijit at October 20, 2008 12:05 PM (oxmQ6) 24
If you want to see a below average student, check out Powell's school transcripts. The MSM was conflicted but the desire to report on it because he was a 'republican' was overcome by the desire not to be considered racist.
Posted by: polynikes at October 20, 2008 12:06 PM (m2CN7) 25
15 As an wife to an active duty marine, more "testing" is just what I and the rest of this country needs. He'll cut military spending [the defense budget is where he's going to get the $$ to cover his plans] and then he's going to overextend us more.
I'm really afraid of what he's going to do to the military. I really am. He has no concept of the military. My bet is that he doesn't even know the difference between a platoon and a battalion. Posted by: TMQ at October 20, 2008 12:00 PM (aMu45) correct, and needs to be repeated over and over Posted by: funky chicken at October 20, 2008 12:07 PM (xyyHG) 26
McCain is all over it. It's posted on his web site.
Posted by: incognito at October 20, 2008 12:07 PM (Rpam5) 27
So, morons, what will the " test " be?
Russia decides "Hey, we want ALL of Georgia this time"? Iran tests a nuclear weapon, or more likely,test fires a ballistic missle over Iraqi airspace? NK pulls back from this latest "farce" of a deal and resumes WMD development? OR targets Japan, forcing a Japanese re-armeament? China makes a pass at Taiwan? Posted by: Techie at October 20, 2008 12:12 PM (d621h) 28
Uncle Joe is wrong in this instance. Something will most assuredly happen, and continue to happen as long as Obama is president, but it won't be a crisis.
A crisis implies Obama would do something about it, he won't. We had a crisis of Islamic Jihadism the entire time Clinton was president. Except for when his ass was on the line during the Lewinsky crisis, do you see what Dems call a crisis now, Clinton did shit about it. Obama will do the same. If you think Obama will issue an order which calls for the killing of anyone except Caucasian people you are nuts. And yes Afgans are Caucasians. Obama might send a crap load of aid to his Cousin Odinga though. One thing you can put in the bank for an Obama presidency right now. Once Bin laden is dead the only shots fired by an American Soldier will be in retreat or self defense. Posted by: Rocks at October 20, 2008 12:13 PM (Q1lie) 29
"I've forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know"
Ok, I'm going to parse that as, "I'm warning you! Hardly anyone realizes how much I've forgotten..." Posted by: seyont at October 20, 2008 12:14 PM (FcR7P) 30
"Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said."
No can do, babe, God love ya! The next stupid thing you say ever eclipses the previous. You're like the Secretariat of silly jabbering. here's Joe on the campaign trail dropping subtle hints ??? Posted by: lauraw at October 20, 2008 12:14 PM (c/aQ4) 31
22 Powell prevailed in 1992 when he argued to leave Saddam Hussein in power. Because he won that argument, the Shia and Kurds suffered massive attacks from Saddam's forces....which then forced us to protect those populations for over a decade, and at an expense of tens of billions of dollars. Surely even Newt Gingrich remembers our having to devote our Air Force to patrolling the no fly zones?
Powell's judgement has been demonstrably poor since 1992. I was honestly shocked that GW Bush courted him back in 2000. My husband spent a whole lot of time between Iraq 1 and Iraq 2 over in the middle east. Why did we have such a heavy military presence in Saudi Arabia from 1993 to 2002? Because GHW Bush listened to Colin Powell instead of Norman Schwartzkopf. Gingrich is a creep and a coward for not bringing that up. So much for his being a historian or expert on national security or budget hawk. Posted by: funky chicken at October 20, 2008 12:15 PM (xyyHG) 32
McCain's best campaign material: two guys named Joe.
Posted by: someone at October 20, 2008 12:15 PM (nO8K/) 33
So, basically, Biden is saying that our country will be less safe if Obama is elected.,
Ooooookayyyy...... Posted by: wiserbud at October 20, 2008 12:16 PM (IHbof) 34
from what I heard him say himself in the debates he's going to come out swinging and attack Pakistan... if he's not in jail, that is... which is still to be seen...
Posted by: Kaptain Amerika at October 20, 2008 12:17 PM (UHPcb) 35
So, morons, what will the " test " be?
Russia decides "Hey, we want ALL of Georgia this time"? Iran tests a nuclear weapon, or more likely,test fires a ballistic missle over Iraqi airspace? NK pulls back from this latest "farce" of a deal and resumes WMD development? OR targets Japan, forcing a Japanese re-armeament? China makes a pass at Taiwan? All of the above. Plus Chavez and/or Castro try to re-enact the Cuban Missile Crisis... Remember the impotence of the Carter years? Plan for a rerun if Captain Zero gets into office. Of course, Joe's gaffe is a great way of getting people to think about this before it's decided. Thanks, Joe! Posted by: someone at October 20, 2008 12:20 PM (nO8K/) 36
I like how he neglects to mention the fact that he has been wrong on just about every major foreign policy issue in the last 30 years. Then again he is right that an Obama administration will have to deal with a major international crisis within the first six months of being elected. I can pretty much guarantee that If Obama is elected the first thing that will happen is that Israel will bomb the crap Iran's Nuclear program because they will have no confidence in Obama to deal with it. Posted by: Matt at October 20, 2008 12:20 PM (2UQSn) 37
Sounds like a good reason to vote for McCain. No testing needed. Thanks Joe!
Posted by: Hurting Head at October 20, 2008 12:21 PM (yW/Al) 38
Well, we can all just kiss off the 2010 Winter Olympics now. Since we'll even end up boycotting Canada, after Carter IIThe OneTM has to endure his first real test (actually, in his lifetime, other than that arugula thing). And they think plumbers are being mean to him?
Posted by: roy at October 20, 2008 12:24 PM (cB77O) 39
- You don't become Chairman of the Senate Foreign Policy Committee based on merit or expertise. It's based on seniority. And the morons from Delaware, the 45th most populous state, keep sending back Joe Biden. .
Posted by: BumperStickerist at October 20, 2008 12:24 PM (GuX8p) 40
Just kidding - I still don't think America is that stupid.
Posted by: roy at October 20, 2008 12:25 PM (cB77O) 41
"I can pretty much guarantee that If Obama is elected the first thing
that will happen is that Israel will bomb the crap Iran's Nuclear
program because they will have no confidence in Obama to deal with it."
Yeah, but Bush will still be in office. Hell, BUSH might bomb Iran if Barry wins. Because if it's the right thing to do, there's no reason at that point to care what other people think. Posted by: someone at October 20, 2008 12:26 PM (nO8K/) 42
"I think there is also a whole group
of white Republicans who are telling their friends at the country club
that I'm voting for McCain, and they're going to go...vote for Obama"
Washington media types love trotting out this old hobgoblin. Country club democrats outnumber republicans by a factor of 50-1 in California. San Francisco Olympic Club is a prime example. "The Olympic Club enjoys the distinction of being America's oldest athletic Club. Comprised of more than 5,000 active members" San Francisco Bohemian Club. Its clubhouse is located at 624 Taylor Street in San Francisco. Today, the club has a diverse membership of many prominent local and global leaders, ranging from artists and musicians to leading businessmen. Founded in 1872, it was modeled on New York's prominent Century Club. Posted by: 13times at October 20, 2008 12:26 PM (M0LYr) 43
Yeah, the world will test him. They will want to know the price of arugula in every country in the world. It's a big test to study for.
Posted by: BillyBob at October 20, 2008 12:26 PM (7HyI+) 44
Gamechanger?
Posted by: Judd at October 20, 2008 12:27 PM (BXHeE) 45
So who else is going to hear this? The msm will bury it and things will go along business as usual. Sorry. I'm a bit down today. Somebody talk me out of it please. Posted by: SueM at October 20, 2008 12:27 PM (hme2f) 46
Joe the 6-term Senator just made the dumbest remark. This is an ad in the making. Why will america elect a guy who wants redistribute the wealth as well as cause a national crisis due to his inexperience. Mark Joe's words. A perfect storm i tell you. Perfect. Stop being depressed and wake up. We are going to win this thing. The lord is on our side. Look at the events of the last week. Look at the tightening in the polls and the HUGE number of undecided's THis election is ours. Stand up and fight. I think if we work hard we could even stop the dumbocrats from taking seats. We have them where we want them. Democrats are now fighting against the middle class. McCain is now fighting FOR the worker. Last week gave us the perfect opening and instead of wallowing in our sorrow. Get up and get to work to save america from Senator Government. The Anti-Christ. Posted by: ppp at October 20, 2008 12:28 PM (zzms8) 47
Remember the impotence of the Carter years? I was only 15 years old when Jimmy Carter was elected president. Jimmy Carter is just a guy in my political party. I barely know the guy. Posted by: Barry Obama at October 20, 2008 12:28 PM (knHvu) 48
Biden is herpes, the gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by: Joan at October 20, 2008 12:31 PM (gVGwn) 49
"The msm will bury it"
You mean the way they buried Joe the Plumber? Even if they try to cover for Joe the Dumber, the whole episode will raise people's awareness of the real stakes in the election. We've had seven years without a mass terror attack here... You want to put the next four into THIS guy's hands? Posted by: someone at October 20, 2008 12:31 PM (nO8K/) 50
If I were Putin, Achmedinijad, Kim Jong-Il, or hell even Steven Harper, I'd certainly press the envelope to see what I could get away with. All of these guys + Khaddafi + Sarkozy + Gordon Brown + Vicente Fox + Chavez + a half a dozen princes with tablecloths on their heads have done the calculus and all have come to the same conclusion: BHO = Pussy Posted by: pendejo grande at October 20, 2008 12:32 PM (5XptV) 51
Say something smart Joe. Oh, God love you, what am I saying. Everybody say something smart about Joe.
Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at October 20, 2008 12:33 PM (CJX6e) 52
Actually, it'll start the day he's inaugurated, and Putin and the Iranians won't even factor into it.
I was reading the Sun-Times this morning (OK, I was in a Starbucks and there was nothing else to read except the coffee labels) and all is not sunshine in the Land of Obama. Laura Washington, the Sun-Times' other Angry Black Female columnist, is complaining that Obama isn't talking about race enough. (Yes, really. She meant that he's not talking about black-people-in-general enough). Anyway, she says, if Obama wins he is going to be so in debt to the black population, and what's he planning to do about it? Then there was another columnist who complained that Obama was insufficiently gay-friendly, and what was he going to do for them? So while we're waiting for Russia and Iran to get even more horrible than they are now, we can watch the hissy-fits and cat-fights among the party faithful. An Obama presidency (should it come to pass) will make the Carter years look like the Age of Pericles. Posted by: Annalucia at October 20, 2008 12:33 PM (OMiLl) Posted by: PaRep at October 20, 2008 12:33 PM (dWdDN) 54
Wars start when you elect Republicans. They end when you elect Democrats.
That'd come as a huge surprise to FDR, Truman, Kennedy, Wilson... Posted by: Dead Career Sketch at October 20, 2008 12:34 PM (ekxa7) 55
I know you will say but McCain this and that. It is YOU that votes. I heard Ace blame McCain for the possibility of losing seats. How is it up to McCain to throw all you whiners on his back plus the candidates of the party and carry you across.
You seem to forget that POEPLE decide elections. The press is filling your heads up and baiting all of you. McCain will win. Posted by: ppp at October 20, 2008 11:47 AM (zzms ppp my favorite moron Posted by: funky chicken at October 20, 2008 12:35 PM (xyyHG) 56
And people wondered why I moved way the hell out into the country and didn't mind the commute. It's worth it to have a couple significant terrain features between me and any worthwhile targets.
I'm going to spend a nice portion of the next four years hiding in a hole if Barry wins. Posted by: SGT Dan at October 20, 2008 12:36 PM (u2aRf) 57
Sue M:
you wasted our time, and you depress everyone around you for no reason. That’s what Eeyores do — you bring people down into your fatalist little worlds, but then never remember the damage you’ve done. Because, when Clinton won, you’d celebrate with everyone else…and then the next day you’d go back to parroting the media’s line about Clinton losing the next round of primaries. You did this before Ohio and Texas. You did this before Pennsylvania. You did this before West Virginia. And Kentucky. And Indiana. And South Dakota. And you never learned your lesson. You never put two and two together and figured out that the media manipulated you every time — they brought the gloom and doom out in you, and you then went out and spread your rain clouds to everyone you know, depressing them, and probably getting more than a few of them to go out and spread gloom and doom to others they knew. Like an infection that spreads. We’re sorry to have to be so blunt and just come out and call you people idiots — but that’s what needs to be done. Because for people so upset by the idea of Obama winning this — of Obama and his gang of criminals coming to Washington to take over the government — you sure do an awful lot to cripple efforts to stop him. Posted by: funky chicken at October 20, 2008 12:36 PM (xyyHG) 58
Barry has never been tested, never done anything or solved a single problem. He has no idea what the job is he is interviewing for. He got where he is with Affirmative Action. Unfortunately for the rest of us, the World is not an Equal Opportunity Employer The Russians, Al Queda, Chinese, Chavez, need not test the O, he is one of them. Posted by: billypaintbrush at October 20, 2008 12:37 PM (5aBkh) 59
Biden is just stating the obvious; the reason other world leaders want Obambi so much is because they know he'll turn the United States back into their bitch, just like Clinton did.
The rest of the world sees themselves as George and the United States as Lennie -- strong, but dumb, and needing someone to lead them around. They already know Obambi's a nitwit, given his willingness to put people who firebomb houses with sleeping children in them in charge of education. Posted by: North Dallas Thirty at October 20, 2008 12:38 PM (E3Yxq) 60
Hey , just look at what “The One” has done to a lowly plumber in PA. There will be scathing articles written about Putin. THAT, will keep the B-list dictators in line. The written word is all powerful…we are so screwed! Posted by: Paladin at October 20, 2008 12:38 PM (AfORa) 61
lauraw, I'm just reading between the lines. Joe says there might be an international crisis in 6 months. How does Joe know? Is he just assuming that or is he referring to information given to both campaigns from the WH. Remember, Joe isn't exactly the kind of guy to keep his foot out of his mouth.
Posted by: incognito at October 20, 2008 12:39 PM (Rpam5) 62
Someone mentioned that Israel would strike Iran right after the election if Barack wins. And we might even help them? Do you think that Bush would do that or do you think Bush is worried about his "legacy"? When will this latest Bidenism go into an ad? Posted by: kelley in virginia at October 20, 2008 12:40 PM (ioTid) 63
That;s a great campaign slogan, Joe.
"Vote for Obama, so we can pull together after ANOTHER terrorist attack!" You'd think Biden would be tired of the taste of Shinola on his tongue. Posted by: CrankyProf at October 20, 2008 12:41 PM (waYsO) 64
And pussy is good.
Posted by: pendejo grande at October 20, 2008 12:43 PM (5XptV) 65
"When will this latest Bidenism go into an ad?"
It can't be soon enough. Hell, this should be their main theme of the week (with more Joe the Plumber followup as background). Posted by: someone at October 20, 2008 12:43 PM (nO8K/) 66
Perhaps the most telling part is when Biden continues with the thought and implies that Obama's first response won't be a good one - but that he'll 'need their support anyway'. Sounds like their plans to sell us out will come early. Posted by: HRPKathy at October 20, 2008 12:47 PM (WqFVw) 67
"And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."
I've sort of been lying to myself that these community organizing, bullying, shames and shout-downs would end after the election. Bidens statement here it quite the wake up call that this is just the beginning.
Feh.
Posted by: geckoproof at October 20, 2008 12:49 PM (YpCUm) 68
you wasted our time, and you depress everyone around you for no reason. That’s what Eeyores do — you bring people down into your fatalist little worlds, but then never remember the damage you’ve done. Because, when Clinton won, you’d celebrate with everyone else…and then the next day you’d go back to parroting the media’s line about Clinton losing the next round of primaries. FUCK YOU. I am NOT an Eyeore. I have been for McCain from the beginning. Cheering his primary comeback, cheering his selection of Gov. Palin. I have been more up than anyone during this election process. I said I was down TODAY. I asked a simple fucking question. I don't need a FUCKING lecture ASSHOLE. And don't you EVER call me an idiot AGAIN. Posted by: SueM at October 20, 2008 12:49 PM (hme2f) 69
The ugly truth is we'll have to stand behind O'Bambi just like the lefties must. Unless he's talking about nuking Brisbane or something equally idiotic, if O'Bambi decides to take a strong stand because otherwise he's just the bitch we and the rest of the world suspect he is, we have to back his play. I would much rather support the candidate that no one has the nerve to test. Posted by: spongeworthy at October 20, 2008 12:51 PM (a00go) 70
When a woman says she's having a BAD DAY, you have to know not to fuck with her. Just go into your room with a beer and shut the door. C'mon, morons, this is simple stuff.
Posted by: spongeworthy at October 20, 2008 12:54 PM (a00go) 71
Posted by: SueM at October 20, 2008 12:27 PM (hme2f)
SueM - visit Treacher's blog. Encouragement and the funny. Posted by: Slublog at October 20, 2008 12:54 PM (R8+nJ) Posted by: incognito at October 20, 2008 12:59 PM (Rpam5) 73
Biden is not campaigning today....wonder if it is because of this giant gaffe.
With 150 million maybe they paid Hill's debt, and she will take Biden's place.... McCain should use this and Joe's already made video...the actual video with subititles included......and run bidens gaffe....it is scary... Posted by: free at October 20, 2008 01:00 PM (cFwGO) 74
Obama and Biden were made for each other. They're both arrogant bastards who believe they are much more intelligent and accomplished than the facts would support.
Posted by: Andy at October 20, 2008 01:01 PM (C3mTI) 75
I do believe that is one of the most ignorant things I have ever heard. That statement alone disqualifies Joe Biden from seeking any office where one has to take the oath to defend the constitution.
I don't know who is more stupid, Joe Biden for making that statement, or the general populace for not understanding what that statement means to our allies and enemies. K Posted by: Kestrel♠ at October 20, 2008 01:03 PM (0106Q) 76
Um, Sue? that was a quote from and excellent post over at Hillbuzz. I highly recommend you read it.
And I'm a female, so I'm not intimidated by your rant. http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/ Posted by: funky chicken at October 20, 2008 01:04 PM (xyyHG) 77
Well, Uncle Joe Biden, after 9/11 you forgot that Iran was about to purchase $160 million in military hardware from Russia when you suggested sending them "no strings attached" a check for $200 million.
So even if you have forgotten more about foreign policy than most of your colleagues know, it is what you have forgotten about it that is of concern. Like giving money to radical Islamic regimes = bad. Posted by: Glen at October 20, 2008 01:04 PM (L912U) 78
Those two clowns get elected, we're gonna get punked!
Posted by: GarandFan at October 20, 2008 01:04 PM (eJ32B) 79
20. incognito
exactly!! Biden is blabbing his security briefing all about the place and trying to preemptively cover his axx for the 'crisis' that will follow if Obummer gets away with stealing this thing. unfrakkinbeLIEVable.. I have sent it to all and sundry RUSH talking about it in a minute... yep 20 yr DEM and I now tune to Rush, Hannity adn Fox and the conservative blogs to find out WTH is happening as the party I was dunderheaded enough to trust tries to run the entire country and with us the world off a cliff.. If I were a finacier of any note whatsoever, I would be doing all humanly possible to help MAC/PALIN, msybe theyre keeping a low profile b/c the WALL ST meltdown and AIG shenanigans make them less favorable to voters right now.. but we need party leadershipon thew GOP side to rally the troops, rally!! hell I'm doing just that cuase, you know even if things are in a recession I would like to keep MY pot to piss in, Obummer will try to take it and give it to someone else.... I followed the suggestions ACE posted, and we PUMAS are working our hearts out, but I think we need to mobilize folks to help drive the elderly to vote in areas of Obamanation theft and thuggery ie NC, MO, MI,OH, FL to name a few... Posted by: ginaswo at October 20, 2008 01:05 PM (fEyge) 80
Someone mentioned that Israel would strike Iran right after the election if Barack wins. And we might even help them? Do you think that Bush would do that or do you think Bush is worried about his "legacy"? If Israel did go in it wouldn't be right after the election anyway because winter is not exactly the best time to conduct that sort of precision operation. The reality is that late february would probably be the first opportunity weather wise to conduct such an operation unless they strike right now (Now wouldn't that be one hell of an October surprise). As for Bush ordering a strike I cant see that happening before he leaves office unless Iran does something that forces him to do so. Posted by: Matt at October 20, 2008 01:09 PM (2UQSn) 81
FUCK YOU. I am NOT an Eyeore. I have been for McCain from the beginning. Cheering his primary comeback, cheering his selection of Gov. Palin. I have been more up than anyone during this election process. I said I was down TODAY. I asked a simple fucking question. I don't need a FUCKING lecture ASSHOLE. And don't you EVER call me an idiot AGAIN. LIGHTEN UP FRANCIS !!!! Posted by: PaRep at October 20, 2008 01:10 PM (dWdDN) 82
And I'm a female, so I'm not intimidated by your rant. She didn't intend for you to be intimidated. She intended for you to fuck off. Don't you and Christoph have your daily 'most condescending and annoying poster' meeting? Posted by: polynikes at October 20, 2008 01:14 PM (m2CN7) 83
Gina: I've been working my ass off for McCain too, and today, am boosting my calls up from 10 to 50 a day. It's working. On election day, I will be helping to GOTV as well, if that means driving people, I'll be there. I know I've said this before, but thank you and welcome aboard! :-)
Sue: We've all had our bad days. Keep the faith. Just think of the gift that keeps giving ... Joe Biden. Posted by: incognito at October 20, 2008 01:17 PM (Rpam5) 84
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I thought the world was going to get together and sing kumbaya if Obama is elected?
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If Biden's hinting at things that he's heard about in a classified briefing to the candidates, wouldn't this indicate a recklessness* that questions his temperament to be President?
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Obviously very troubling to any supporter of Israel.
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