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McCain And Ayers On Fox

You want Ayers? He'll give you Ayers.

First, yes it was cut by TPM and I found it at The Atlantic's Trig Palin Truther blog but it's good stuff (of course they don't see it that way).

Interestingly, neither of the two liberal outlets seem to find any irony in the fact that Chris Wallace of FOX News (gasp!) actually goes after McCain. Anyone think Olberman, Gibson or Couric would go after Obama in that way? Hell no they wouldn't and haven't.

It's also amusing that Wallace's critique of McCain is so stupid. Does Wallace really think that when McCain said in 2000 he would never resort to "that kind of political tactic" he was talking about robo calls in general as opposed to character smears?

Posted by: DrewM. at 02:08 PM



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1 What was the content of the 2000 robo calls against mccain?

Posted by: lorien1973 at October 19, 2008 02:12 PM (ddGv/)

2 Wallace is really turning into his senile cocksucker old man.  I didn't like him when he replaced Tony Snow on FNS but thought I'd give him a chance.  Bad move by me.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 19, 2008 02:14 PM (m2sQh)

3 It's my understanding that the 2000 robo calls against McCain implied that he had an illegitimate biracial child.

Posted by: BuckNutty at October 19, 2008 02:17 PM (vvUmd)

4 Lorien,

The 200 S.C. rorbocalls claimed that McCain's adopted daughter Bridget was the product of a liason between McCain and a black hooker.


Posted by: dave c at October 19, 2008 02:17 PM (L/p7y)

5 Chris Wallace could not seriously believe that someone who objects to a TV ad and then says that he will not use that tactic that now he has made a commitment to never employ television advertising? Or, suppose someone condemns adultery and then says, "I will never do that." Is that person now making a commitment to not having sex?



Posted by: Francis Beckwith at October 19, 2008 02:17 PM (GVOPq)

6 To hell with that idiot RINO Collins.

Posted by: Watcher at October 19, 2008 02:23 PM (smklP)

7

Yeah Wallace was really a tool in the interview. I've always hated him. Tony Snow asked hard questions of everybody, but Wallace is a typical lib. Hume keeps him in line to an extent. But Hume is leaving, so I expect fox to go even further left in the future. I'd love to see Obama answer a tough question or 2. Oh wait, we saw what happens.

Mara and Juan were insufferably gleeful, and Kristol was tying McCain to the Red Sox. WTF? I think Bill's been drinking the water at the Slimes, although he's never really been a movement conservative to begin with.

I'd really love to see Palin go on with Hume. Her interview with Hannity was great.   

Posted by: Iblis at October 19, 2008 02:26 PM (9221z)

8 Why does Mac focus on the Obama/Lewis repudiation? 

To me it seems like a waste of time with a large opportunity cost (time is precious on these shows...message focus is crucial).

What am I missing on this?  Something in their internal polls?

Posted by: aquaviva at October 19, 2008 02:26 PM (w19Us)

9 I don't mind Wallace going after McCain. He should. McCain is running for President.

What is more telling is how the other networks treat Obama, "How would your father feel at seeing your nomination?"

I do not doubt that Wallace would treat Obama the same way he treated McCain which is why I don't mind it.

Obama complaints about Fox and how he is treated are laughable. It's such a cynical ploy to dismiss the only network willing to actually cover him as journalists should.

Posted by: TomV at October 19, 2008 02:27 PM (/PwQS)

10 Obviously, Wallace is just doing his "elite cocoon" thing.

I did note that despite his silly stance on the issue, Wallace did let McCain respond at length, on more than one occasion.

Posted by: NM Hick at October 19, 2008 02:27 PM (STXJ7)

11 To me it seems like a waste of time with a large opportunity cost (time is precious on these shows...message focus is crucial).

My guess is it's a couple of things...

1-It's McCain's sense of honor. It's important to him. Sometimes this can get in the way but in fairness, who would want to be compared to George Wallace?

2-He can't let Obama and his disciples get away with calling everyone racist. He needs to push back against attempts to put any and all criticism off limits in the name of not being racist.

3-It does get people who are sick of the race card being played to focus on how Obama really is responsible for a lot of this shit or at least no unhappy with it.

Posted by: DrewM. at October 19, 2008 02:32 PM (hlYel)

12 By the way, One of the 4 girls killed in that Alabama church in 1963 was a friend of Condi Rice.  If Condi Rice thought Republicans were racist, she would have never worked in 2 republican administrations.

It is disgusting that the party of Lincoln gets smeared as racists by the party that objected when Teddy Roosevelt invited Booker T Washington to the white house.

Posted by: Tushar at October 19, 2008 02:36 PM (PTWes)

13 The left's attacks on FOX as NOT "fair and balanced" have no merit. I STILL remember Brit Hume's appropriate grilling of the Swift Boats' John O'Neill...Hume simply practiced journalism by forcing his interviewee to defend his position, regardless of what the position is.

Posted by: rb at October 19, 2008 02:36 PM (erps+)

14

I got a robocall from Ed Rendell over a week ago that said Republicans are against health care for chilren or some nonsense like that.  Maybe I should email Chris Wallace and tell him!  I got robocalls from John Kerry in 2004 as well.

Good job by McCain defending himself and going on the offensive about Ayers. 

Posted by: rockmom at October 19, 2008 02:36 PM (iZqUY)

15

What is interesting is that Sen. McCain, Gov. Palin, and Sen. Biden have children in the US military.  Sen. Obama doesn't because his are too young.

That is an interesting thing.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at October 19, 2008 02:37 PM (TUWci)

16 What is more telling is how the other networks treat Obama, "How would your father feel at seeing your nomination?"

Was that a real question?  First Barry would have to know which father; the drunk bigamist deadbeat or the one that didn't want Obastard around.  Either way the answer would be "Why would they care about anything about me?"

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 19, 2008 02:37 PM (m2sQh)

17 Chris Wallace

Like father, like son
The apple don't fall far from the tree
Birds of a feather, flock together
Watch the arrogant little sucker of cock on Friday morning's "Fox and Friends". His arrogant condescending attitude is enough to make you vomit.
Put Wallace and Shep Smith on the same screen and find the camera panning to cover both swelled heads

One question I have wanted to ask of the legal beagles here: Since the broadcast journalists on the major networks have lost all pretense of objectivity, why aren't they 527's? A broadcasters' FCC license is based on service to the public. How is propaganda a public service? This was supposed to help prevent the Nazi takeover by the current Democrat party.

Posted by: RD at October 19, 2008 02:39 PM (zlGlY)

18 Another good video ... A 20 year history hidden from you

Posted by: incognito at October 19, 2008 02:40 PM (Rpam5)

19 Look, Chris Wallace is a TV "newsman;" you can't expect better from him. You know that if his cell phone rang in the middle of a show and it was CBS telling him they were fed up with Dad and he could have 60 Minutes Brit Hume and Mara Laiasson wouild be talking to a spinning empty chair...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 19, 2008 02:40 PM (JwbvL)

20 You say Obama, I say Ayers.

Posted by: RedFox84 at October 19, 2008 02:41 PM (VdzWh)

21 I don't mind Wallace going after McCain. He should. McCain is running for President.

No, he shouldn't. One, we know everything about McCain, while we know almost nothing about Obama. Two, no msm goes after Obama except to give a reach around. It's absurd to go after one candidate repeatedly and not ever go after Obama.

Posted by: Thomas Dewey '48 at October 19, 2008 02:41 PM (MKM35)

22

I heard this interview in the car coming home from church. (I thought it was Charles Gibson!)

I thought McCain did well but I wish he had said something along the lines of, "Hey! If you cocksuckers in the media did your job, there would be no need for me to be doing these robo-calls on Ayers".

Posted by: Nice Deb at October 19, 2008 02:41 PM (9Ghzz)

23

Wallace was well within his rights to ask McCain about these RoboCalls. This was not necessarily an anti-McCain line of questioning.  It was probably good journalism.

Wallace thereby gave McCain a perfect opportunity to explain the fallacy of claiming equivalence between the factually untrue 2000 robocalls and the accurate 2008 McCain robocalls.

What was Wallace supposed to have done?  Pitch a softball to McCain? Say "Senator McCain, please explain to us why it is perfectly fine for you make these robocalls and tell the listeners why the 2000 calls were not similar, were not truthful, and were in fact just a pack of lies."

No, this gave McCain a perfect setup to tell his story, without any media bias in his favor.

Posted by: Juliet16 at October 19, 2008 02:43 PM (2xgu5)

24 I thought Wallace did his job. He also did McCain a favor, creating an opening for Mac to flog the Ayers issue. That it happened on Fox is a plus: fair and balanced indeed.

Posted by: Milesdei at October 19, 2008 02:44 PM (ACHxk)

25

It is disgusting that the party of Lincoln gets smeared as racists by the party that objected when Teddy Roosevelt invited Booker T Washington to the white house.

Its too bad that our public school system doesn't teach the true history of America. I wonder if our kids are learning that FDR signed the executive order for Japanese internment camps during WWII and that Reagan was the one that apologized for it.

Posted by: KCLady at October 19, 2008 02:45 PM (a4nO6)

26

Re: #23, let me add that  I would llove to see Wallace go after Obama on a lot of issues but that likely won't happen.

I have heard Wallace state that he is and always has been a registered Democrat.  So, what do you expect? That said, he is more fair than most.

Even if Wallace asked Obama the tough questions, Obama would just give a double-talk answer that Average Americans won't understand. They are not interested, not intellectually capbable of understanding issues. And if Obama lies, many just say "Well, so what? I think it is time for a change." and their eyes glaze over.

The American public is just not listening.  They are too ill-informed, too poorly educated.  They can only hear Hype and Sensationalism. You've got to get to them some other way. They don't care about robocalls, anyway.  They expect it from both parties at election time.

 

Posted by: Juliet16 at October 19, 2008 02:53 PM (2xgu5)

27 Wallace is more fair than the rest of the jackals, but he swims in the DC media swamp. Even trying to be fair and balanced, sometimes that conventional wisdom stench from his comrades on the other networks sticks to him anyway. He does swallow the accepted narrative hook line and sinker, then later tries to throw it up when he sees he's been had. Sometimes he does not catch it at all, though.

McCain did make the point that the objectionable tactic is LYING about HIS FAMILY, not the calling mechanism which spread those lies around. If your calls are truthful, and accurate, there is no problem with this method of reaching voters, since the damn media isn't going to tell anyone about Obama's questionable alliances and background in the farthest of far left Chicago politics.

20 years, marriage ceremony, baptizing the kids, personal spiritual mentor, G*d Damn AmeriKKKa, and it's no big deal. Keating 5! Keating 5!

Posted by: Brian72 at October 19, 2008 02:54 PM (h6lGQ)

28

I'm actually a registered Democrat, but Fox News is just soooo biased! Lol!

Posted by: Chris Wallace at October 19, 2008 03:01 PM (mzfP0)

29
'8 -Why does Mac focus on the Obama/Lewis repudiation?'

Yeah- McCains' showing us that Obama is willingly playing the race card.
Obama is such a sleeze.
I pray that he falls flat on his face nov 4th.

Posted by: politicalmuse at October 19, 2008 03:03 PM (kLKnf)

30 No, this gave McCain a perfect setup to tell his story, without any media bias in his favor.

It gave McCain an opening to respond with some righteous indignation -- the genuine kind -- as opposed to the snarky O-phony version.

Posted by: JBean at October 19, 2008 03:07 PM (1FFRT)

31 Even if Wallace asked Obama the tough questions, Obama would just give a double-talk answer that Average Americans won't understand.

Oh, please! It doesn't take J-school and 20 years of experience to be able to ask a question and not allow a weasel like Obama to not answer it.

Posted by: Thomas Dewey '48 at October 19, 2008 03:23 PM (MKM35)

32 McCain likes to play nice, but won't allow his integrity to be called into question. That is a line in the sand with him I think.

Posted by: palin rocks at October 19, 2008 03:44 PM (vrhes)

33 Chris Wallace was wearing thongs throughout the interview. Why did you wear thongs during the interview, Chris, I thought you repudiated that in 2000 when you were caught sucking on Colin Powell's tailpipe?

Posted by: Michelle's American White Racist at October 19, 2008 03:49 PM (NLtVk)

34 Hmm...in the interview, Mac slips and makes an assertion ("we know...")   @ 1:01, but then instantly corrects himself to say "we need to know...the full extent of the relationship" @ 1:02.  Methinks the McCain camp has some Obama - Ayers facts, but wants media sources to reveal them.

Posted by: Zippy at October 19, 2008 04:45 PM (PuCsz)

35

Wallace can be a decent guy, but this interview he was such a twerp. There is NO comparison to the complete fabrications about McCain that he was a victim of in 2000 in robot calls, compared to the calls McCain now has going out about Nobama, that are about TRUTH! HUGE diff! What is it with these stooges pretending not to know the difference in character smears and TRUTH that needs to be discussed, needs to be brought to light. Because voters need to be able to vote in an informed fashion....

With Wallace, I don't think it's so much that he is so hot for Nobama - it's seems more like he just loves to play "gotchya" for the fun of it....

Posted by: freetofly at October 19, 2008 05:45 PM (b3FKk)

36 I was glad to see McCain fighting back on the Ayers issue, but I'm confused. Why is Ayers' hatred of America a valid political issue, but Wright's identical hatred is off limits? Could there be a racial angle in there somewhere?

Posted by: RoadRunner at October 19, 2008 05:51 PM (R5wK8)

37

>>>>>Why does Mac focus on the Obama/Lewis repudiation? 

I think McCain genuinely thought Lewis was a Equal Rights/I Have A Dream kind of guy.   Instead McCain finds out that Lewis is just a typical black rights, congressional black caucus, black liberation, black affirmative action, and all around asshole.    Lewis actually *seriously* used the race card on McCain/Palin to say they are like white murderers of black children.

 

 

Posted by: RM at October 19, 2008 06:17 PM (EMrx9)

38

>>>>Why is Ayers' hatred of America a valid political issue, but Wright's identical hatred is off limits? Could there be a racial angle in there somewhere?

I think it's the religious aspect with McCain.    

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