1 Element 4:  Fix italic tags.

2

Ah, I'd adjust the tone a bit...more positive toward the 527s, less "McCain doesn't want to win."

I really think his feisty debate performance tonight makes it obvious he's not just phoning it in, right?

I know you are frustrated, but honestly, it would be better with less bile.  No, I'm not trying to bust your balls, just offering some wisdom that comes from age.  And from living for many moons with a military pilot.....

3 In all seriousness, I think it might be worth it to try getting one of the radio guys to pick up on this push.

4 If you want to make people think you're offering constructive criticism, it might help not to have "suicidal" in the first 10 words.

5 You were going to list some phone numbers?

WHAT?  DO I HAVE TO DO ANYTHING?

Seriously, I'm going to go to bed now, and I'll make some calls first thing after I wake up.

6

Um, again with the politico?

I give up.  Limbaugh spoke about the founder of the politico and how he spoke to a small group on some lib campus and his plan to help bring about such a democrat landslide that partisanship would be passe.  He was talking about having so few republicans anywhere that the democrats would have a one party state.

Why keep reading them and sending them traffic?  You really can't see what they are up to?

7 Thanks, ace.  This is helpful. 

RNC better not fucking abandon the McCain campaign, a lot of folks donated there since Mac took public financing, and don't give a flying fuck about the corrupt greasebags in the Senate.

I'll reiterate that I think you're overreacting, and that we are in fair shape going into what should be a bloodbath for the Republicans.  But you're not overreacting in a bad way, just rightly worried. 

Really, though, the 527s are the right vehicle for these ads.  the campaign itself can't do these without looking like their trying to shift the blame from "deregulation" bullshit.  THe dems and the media (BIRM) have already solidified that talking point, and if mcCain tries ot correct it, he'll just look like he's trying to dodge responsibility.

8 I've seen used toilet paper more feisty than McCain.



Ace, your idea is a good one.

9 I am softening some language per your concerns.

10

God love ya, Ace.

I'm glad you've decided not to get frustrated and wallow in defeatism and be constructive.  I also really appreciate you listening to your readers.

11 And Politico is crap. Do not go there. Don't give them the traffic.

12

Limbaugh also spent quite a bit of time today saying that the economy isn't nearly as bad as an awful lot of libs and MSM types have been saying it is.  American Airlines just inked an 8 billion dollar deal with Boeing to buy a bunch of their new hotshot plane.  Limbaugh was puzzled that AA got 8 billion dollars of credit to complete this contract if there is no credit available like Paulson, Reid, Pelosi, and the MSM have been telling us.

It is totally proper to talk up your # 1 issue.  I think the knee-jerk reaction of crapping on McCain as a way to support your argument is counter-productive.

13 Ace: You are right that McCain or the RNC needs to hit this issue HARD. And this is a good, constructive idea.

But McCain didn't do as badly tonight as you think. I've been polling my own circle of Nervous Nellys and undecideds. Uniformly positive, even when they don't know what some of the issues are. One had no idea what the Ayers thing was all about, but thought Barry was hiding something just based on body language. The PUMA's are right.

Also, I promise you that over the next week or so, a lot of small employers are going to have a conversation with their employees along these lines: "The six of you have been with me since the beginning. I am grateful for everything you have done to make this company a success. That's why if St. Barry wins I won't be able to choose which of you I have to let go to pay for his B.S. mandates. The morning of November 5. we'll be drawing straws to see which of you I have to let move on so I can afford the rest. It's the only fair way to decide. Sorry, the matter is out of my hands." That's the real message of Joe the Plumber.

14 damn, mrobvious. A production of that scene would make one hell of a 527 ad.

15 Okay, you guys don't like Politico? Fine. Google RNC Senate and you'll find as many other sources with the same information.

Here's one.

Retreating as they brace for congressional losses, Republicans have canceled television advertising in a key Senate race in Louisiana and scaled back ads in eight competitive House contests.

The moves signal a scramble by Republicans, three weeks before nationwide elections, to hold off a Democratic surge.

Majority Democrats, by contrast, are investing in an expanding list of GOP targets — many in Republican strongholds — even as they move to protect their own marginal members.

Just because you don't like the source much doesn't mean they aren't right.

16 Oh, and BTW, fuck the RNC. If the stakes weren't so high, I'd be sipping cider and laughing at the political meltdown on TV. I'll call them, but their past performance suggests I am wasting my time. This race is coming down to Palin and the 527's.

17

Oh, sure, right when I was scratching my old brain for counter-productive, you make the post non-craptacular.

LOL  great job, for real.

RightChange has another great FM/FM ad, and if you guys call the McCain campaign, he does have a TV ad called "Rein" that deals with FM/FM quite well.  Please don't just complain, please suggest that they play "Rein" as often as possible.

I'd post a link, but I still can't get the tinyurl thing to work that well.

And I'm off to bed.

18 So Politico says the RNC is ditching McCain for Senate/House races.

We say the source sucks (and it does).

Drew, you come back with information saying that the RNC, rather than pumping more money into Senate/House races as Politico claimed, is actually ditching Senate/House races.

And then you tell us that that proves the initial information was correct?

I'm missing something.

Qwinn

19 mrobvious,

I have said multiple times he did well tonight -- on the issues he discussed.

Unfortunately, the reason he's losing is THIS ISSUE, and he will continue losing until he addresses it.

This is the big huge hole in the side of the Titanic.  Yes, he did some nice rearranging of the lifeboats tonight.  But the hole remains unplugged.

20 last post--I went to the RNC site today, and it was so pathetic that I didn't give them a donation.  I went to the 527s.

21

seriously, if you call the McCain campaign, tell them to please play "Rein"

my mama always taught me that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar....those Texas ladies know how to get their men to do the right thing with a smile on their faces

22 I agree mrobvious. The RNC? The RNC? Yeah, like they know what they're doing.

23 Phil: Trust me, this is going to happen. I happen to be familiar with a lot of businessmen in the East County area of San Diego, which is demographically similar to some of the battlefield states. Auto repair, well-digging, construction, grading and excavation, etc. Even farming. Very much Joe the Plumber types. These guys aren't afraid to speak their minds, and I think a lot of employees are about to experience some serious Straight Talk.

24

Hold up, Ace:

Inform McCain that ...you'll donate your free time making calls on behalf of Congressional and Senatorial candidates rather than his ticket.

Just to be clear, you're not advocating that people who are currently volunteering for McCain, but that don't like his refusal to hit the subprime crisis, stop working for him and switch over to Congressional races?  Because it's no use depriving him of volunteers when as you said yourself, telling his campaign that he is losing money and staff over their refusal to fight on Fannie is unlikely to cause them to change.

25 Look, I don't know about you, but when Obama starts saying "spread the wealth" in a plumbers face, those are fighting words. Get it. This is serious. That is socialism. That is not good for hard working capitalists. So, no, I'm not going to be polite, you go ahead.

26

Last thing, Ace:

You should put the name of the ad in the bit about calling the McCain camp and requesting they put "Rein" on TV.  It will be a lot easier for them to get the message if we have the specific name than if we're all describing the ad to 19 year old interns and hoping they figure it out.

27 Sorry Ace. I didn't mean to imply otherwise. As I said, you are clearly right on this issue. I just think that even though McCain didn't bring it up as you would have wished, he did himself a world of good tonight. I want him to beat Barry over the head with the FNMA stick too. But I think that given his general inability to articulate the finer points, he could have derailed the debate away from all the other topics he wanted to cover while Barry harped about deregulation, racism, etc.

We need to make sure the ads are run. Odds are that Palin will hit hard on this, too. She can carry the ball forward in a way that McCain just can't seem to pull off. McCain was smart to stay away from this topic in the sense that he was more likely to botch the message. Broaching it was enough. provided his campaign follows through for once.

You are right, Ace. You are right, Ace. You are right, Ace.

28 Look, I don't know about you, but when Obama starts saying "spread the wealth" in a plumbers face, those are fighting words. Get it. This is serious. That is socialism. That is not good for hard working capitalists. So, no, I'm not going to be polite, you go ahead.

YES, those words need to be the "Global Test" of this election.

Also, great constructive suggestions, Ace.

29 "Remind him he promised to 'fight for us'... and he's breaking that promise."

My initial reaction was to call you a liar. Then I realized, correctly, that is an overreaction on my part, and it is unfair.

You're being truthful. This is how you see it.

I for one saw it differently. Despite criticizing McCain earlier in the day, I saw McCain fight hard and passionately in the debate.

So I must respectfully disagree with your conclusion, while morally supporting your campaign to get the campaign to give more attention to an important issue, and to win.

Good luck; work hard!

30 >>> Odds are that Palin will hit hard on this, too.

If only I knew how the hell to contact her people.

She'd be a fucking hero. 

toetoetoe,

done, added the name.

31 Here is the ad that funky chicken mentioned:
http://tinyurl.com/4qka4l

32 I already added it. I've been playing with the post.

33 Hmmm... let me try again:
http://tinyurl.com/4qka4l

34 Doh... sorry.

35 He's losing because they tell you he's losing.

The ones who said some guy yelled "Kill him!" at a Palin rally, and Palin practically threw the guy a noose.

The ones who said Palin didn't give birth to her own infant son.

The ones who said McCain was a racist for saying "that one."

You know.

The ones we can trust.

36 Final thoughts: There are two types of contractor (whether builder, plumber, or other.). The first is the guy who worked his ass off to get where he is, knows the trade, and is willing to get his hands dirty, even if he doesn't often have to anymore. The second is the douchebag who shows up in a sportscar (a CAR!), wears a clean uniform, or, worse, patent leather shoes and a tie, and bends you over a sink with all the line items, change orders, emergency fees, etc.

The first takes pride in his work and just wants to be left alone to get the job done. Democrat, Republican, or Independent, the last thing he wants to hear about is yet another micromanaging intrusion by government on any level. The second is the kind of guy who loves Barry's "plans", because he is more about gaming the system than about performance. There are a lot more of the first than the second in this country. When Barry says "If you want to do the right thing and pay for health care for your employees, we'll help you," the first kind doesn't have a middle finger big enough to express his feelings about this nonsense.

(I exclude type III contractors, the meth-heads who don't show half the time, but work till three AM when they do. They may make a lot of over-leveraged, under-capitalized jobs viable, but I don't think they'll be pulling the voting lever, even in the age of Obamius.)

I think Barry let the mask slip. Americans might have voted for socialism when they could pretend they weren't, but a lot of people are stepping back from the abyss about now. Whether that's enough....

37 >>>He's losing because they tell you he's losing.

Okay, Jim.

In that case I guess we can all just kick back and relax.  We're on a glide-path to victory.  Whoo-hoo.

38 "If only I knew how the hell to contact her people."

That would be easy. Just figure out where she's going to be speaking and sneak up to her. Tap her on the shoulder and hand her a note to call you and discuss mutually rewarding plans.

39 Let us suppose that:

1) You are an investor in the stock market with long-term gains..

2) You know that Obama wants to raise the capital gains tax from 15% to 30%.

Then,

How much more likely are you to sell during a bear market, the more likely it becomes that Obama will win and you know you have to sell in the next 2 months anyway to avoid the extra tax?

A fairly simple, obvious point, one might think, and useful too as Obama continues to blame Bush for everything.

But Bush, crappy speaker that he is, was at least able to make simple, obvious points.  The problem is not the lack of obvious points, it is the candidate.

40

One more thing, Ace:

Right Change's ads are intirely web-based.  They have never run a television ad.  While it is concievable that if they get enough money they'll start running their ads on TV, it seems unlikely they'll make the jump into a new medium within the next 3 weeks.  Therefore, the possibilty of Right Change expanding its operations are slim.  At the same time, because the ads have already been produced and there are no costs associated with ad time, Right Change likely does not need a lot of money to continue at the same pace with its activities.  Thus, donating to Right Change won't make the same impact as donating to a 527 running TV or radio ads.  You might want to explain this, disclose that Right Change only operates on the internet, ask donors to request Right Change look into running ads on TV (I'm skeptical this will work), or strike Right Change from your list of 527's all together.

41 okay i'll take them out.

42

Thanks, Ace.

*Sigh*....they have such good ads, too...

43 http://www.letfreedomringusa.com/

Go. Give. NOW!!!!!!!

44 "Right Change's ads are intirely web-based.  They have never run a television ad."

Er, actually, I'm fairly sure I've seen quite a few ads by Right Change here in New Jersey on television.  Mostly it's only been this odd one with some guy bungee jumping off a bridge while saying something like "What kind of change?  Who pays?", but I'm pretty sure it was the same group.

Qwinn

45 Why don't you contact RightChange and ask them? I'm sure they wouldn't mind knowing about potential support of their superlative efforts and would be happy to answer your question.

46 It's time to start fighting for our freedoms from the bottom up, and not the top down. The federal elections are beyond the influence of most freedom loving people, but local elections, and local government are not. We need to get ourselves on local planning and zoning boards, school boards, and all the other small-government bodies that shape our local governance. Then we need to fight at that level to preserve our society.

Repubs at the national level have spent a generation hanging curtains and buying fancy furniture for a house with a crumbling foundation. It's time for each of us to get to work locally, and fight for our society from ten thousand locations instead of just from Washington.

47 Have Obama attack himself. For example, these clips should be run heavily from now until the election:

- Ask the question "What is socialism?" and then run the Joe the plumber clip.

- Show the clip of Obama's pledge to Planned Parenthood where he says the first thing he will do as president is pass FOCA. Then explain what's included in FOCA (allow partial birth abortion, remove state restrictions, late term abortions, federal funding, etc...). There was a poll released the other day that indicated 85% of pro-choice people favor restrictions on abortion.

- Show anything that ties Obama with Pelosi and Reid. Ask "Do you want to give complete control of the country to these people?".

48

I've been thinking, and Ace does have a point. I still think it's important for McCain's push to say just how he'll fix it and how Obama will fuck it up even worse, but the man's onto something here. I was feeling pretty positive after the debate and thought McCain destroyed Obama, but this is a big deal.

I rewatched the debate and something occured to me. Right after Obama finished his bullshit line about 'the failed economic policies of Bush over the last 8 years' being responsible for the collapse, McCain's big response was...

'I'm not George Bush..."

That just about says it all right there. That was the perfect oppourtunity to work this narrative into the debate in front of a massive TV audience and unify the party. Instead, McCain used it to distance himself from Bush and let Obama lie without leaving a scratch on him. McCain has willingly tossed the RNC aside in order to come out in the middle of this issue despite this being an absolutely clear cut case of Democratic malfaescance and failure. I dunno, maybe he's trying to build up good will with the impending Dem Super Majority. Because playing nice with Democrats always pays off, doesn't it? Just like your pals at the NYT, eh Johnny?

How this is even a Republican scandal is beyond me. How the minority party gets blamed for it with the majority party on video and on record as opposing any attempt to stop regulation is the height of Ministry of Truth level propoganda. Obama's 'PRESENT' vote on Freddie and Fannie reform should've been stapled to his forehead tonight. The fact that Dems have the balls to trot that fat fuck Barney Frank out there to push for the bailout and blame the GOP for this is just the big flaming cherry ontop of the shit cake. It's almost like they're taunting the GOP to do something about it. "Ha ha, we fucked up the country and now we're gonna use it against YOU to win. Enjoy your gulags, assholes!"

2004 was the first time I really took an active role in politics; joining the College Republicans to help elect local GOPers to office and support Bush. The tone was completely different then. The GOP was united as a single front on the election in order to oust Kerry and his pals from office. And it worked, astonishingly well. This time around, it's completely fucked up. The message is muddled, there's no unity and many are sticking their heads in the sand until it's all over. The only bright spot out of any of this is Palin, and that's only to get people's hopes up for a 2012 run after the GOP fails miserably here. I like Palin, I think she's got a shot, but I'm not gonna promote her to Messiah status and expect her to fix what the entire fucking GOP couldn't.

Where have the Senate and House Republicans been on this issue? The last I heard from them, they were whining about Pelosi's partisanship before the vote on the first bailout. Where is this party's leader? Who's in charge here? I demand to speak to your supervisor! The only one talking on a national level is McCain, and he won't do what has to be done. Even Palin has been marginalized and ignored, some have said 'reigned in' by the McCain camp.

The last time the economy collapsed and Democrats controlled the message of blame, we got 20 years of Democratic Presidents, the biggest increase in government control and interference in the nation's history and a Democrat lock on the House of Representatives for nearly 50 years. We also got 'Uncle Joe' Stalin, the Iron Curtain, the loss of China to Mao and the Cold War thanks to Roosevelt. While the Dems are busy 'spreading the wealth' they'll completely ignore Al Qaeda, Iran, Russia, North Korea and Venezuela.

I still say McCain can win and he hit Obama hard on his character issues tonight. It's gonna be close no matter what, but what's pissing me off now is that this shouldn't be close. We shouldn't be worrying about a Pelosi/Reid Super Majority, or whether or not a friend of Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright is gonna be sworn into the Oval Office. This should be a fucking homerun for the GOP. Instead: silence. Not just from McCain, but the entire party. If the American people knew the truth behind the economic collapse, the entire Democratic Party would be lynched.

It's pretty sad that Palin might be the only one with the balls big enough to challenge the Dems when her time comes.

49
I got a call a few days ago from the NRSC asking my opinion of what needs to be done. I told them the same thing. Hit the democrats on their causing the fannie mae & freddie mac mess. I gave them $100. I called the McCain HQ and left this message on Charie Black's voice mail about 2 weeks ago. It is so obvious that this is the winning stategy.

50 "We're going to have to drag Yosemite Sam across the finish line."
Rush Limbaugh

51
Joe "the Plumber" Wurzelbacher interview

52 We need a slew ad starring  Joe the Plumber and others like him.

53

McCain is avoiding something that I thought he would never avoid.  He is avoiding fighting for his country.  What got into htis idiot is amazing.  We shouldn't have term limits in the senate.  After 2 terms they should be hung, because they are completely fucking worthless at that point.  Obama is running a real nasty campaign.  Only a 1 term senator of course.

54 McCain is the worst idea ever.

55 I still say McCain can win and he hit Obama hard on his character issues tonight. It's gonna be close no matter what, but what's pissing me off now is that this shouldn't be close. We shouldn't be worrying about a Pelosi/Reid Super Majority, or whether or not a friend of Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright is gonna be sworn into the Oval Office. This should be a fucking homerun for the GOP. Instead: silence. Not just from McCain, but the entire party. If the American people knew the truth behind the economic collapse, the entire Democratic Party would be lynched.

+1

56
That video about dems causing the sub prime crisis finally turned one of my undecided sisters to vote McCain.
Yes we need another one like that from the 527s.

57 Of course it is true that the subprime crisis should bury tObama and the Democrats. But I don't think that it will. It is too late and too nuanced at this point. I am not saying not to keep pounding on it, I just don't think it will change too many minds this late in the game. The time was when McCain grandstanded with suspending his campaing.
On the other hand, issues like "Joe the plumber", exposing Obama's policies and the catastrophic economic consequences of having Obama, Peolosi and Reid having a free reign with supermajorities in Washington, can go a long way.
Republics in house and senate races should also be pounding on the prospects of the worst congress in history becoming fillibuster-proof.

58

the mccain campaign should HIRE joe the plumber for commercials and perhaps even rallies.  pay him whatever he wants!  this is a HUGE opportunity!

59

McCain is so damned even-tempered; it's maddening! That's another reason he should be President.

60 I'd just like to point out that while we're all trying to focus on the financial mess, the Obama campaign is - possibly successfully - blanketing every station (even Fox) with surrogates claiming that neither Obama nor himself has had anything to do with ACORN for 13 years - in fact, they're claiming McCain has had "more recent and deeper" connections to ACORN than Obama did.

I'm just wondering if anyone will take a moment to counter these massive distortions before we move on to other subjects, or if we will -once again- let Obama define an issue and spin culpability without countering it cause we're busy looking at something else.  Again.

Qwinn

61 A 527 is about the only productive short term investment option left.
I'm in.

62 "McCain is the worst idea ever."

Maybe. I don't know. For sure.

But it seems to me McCain is still competitive in a year where almost everything is breaking for the Democrats: Bush fatigue, congressional and senate races, even widely publicized disturbances in the economy, and an extremely concerned or panicky depending on your POV Treasury Secretary.

63

Did you see the debate on CNN where they had those Ohio undecideds polling in on the bottom of the screen?

1st point:  McCain has a gender gap.  I'm female & I don't understand that.

2d: While the Ohioans didn't  like the Ayers talk, they didn't like Osama's responses either.  They don't trust Osama!

3d: While the Ohioans didn't like alot of either candidate, they sure seemed to zoooone down to zero when Osama stuttered.  It was only when he said he wouldn't raise taxes & would give everybody money that the polling went sky-high.  How can they believe that?

64 Paddy Power, one of the big bookies in these parts, has announced today that they're paying out on Obama - over €1 million, apparently.

Perhaps it was the fluffing of the economic crisis, but for whatever reason, the race to be Next US President is slipping away from John McCain. We're certain Senator Obama will become President Obama so we're paying out over €1,000,000 on him to win the election. Applies to bets placed before Thursday 3.30am.

They're still taking bets on Obama, at 9 to 1 on.

65 The Let Freedom Ring ad actually has its own website (along with likewise ads). Here. Be sure to check out the one with a black conservative saying that he wants a black president, too, but not Obama.

66

Two points:

1)      I know a lot of you despise McCain and rue the day he won the nomination but it’s flat out wrong to say HE would be responsible for the Republicans losing seats in the House and Senate this year.  Republicans have been having a tough time all year due to a mass case of Bush Derangement Syndrome that has swept over a lot of the country and trickled down to other Republicans.  It’s more accurate to say McCain has a chance to SAVE those seats with the right message.

2)       For what it’s worth, there are three other “truth tellers” regarding the complicity of Democrats in the mortgage meltdown addition to Bill Clinton:

a.        Jim Cramer, the super loud “Mad Money” guy was on Colbert Report and flat out said this crisis is not Bush’s fault.  You can find the clip on the Comedy Central site.

b.      Alec Baldwin named Barney Frank as a culprit in the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac meltdown on Real Time with Bill Maher.

c.       Saturday Night Live did a bailout sketch a few weeks ago that basically laid it all out.  It should still be on their site. 

Bottom line: Great idea Ace.  I’m in.

67 GO ACE!

McCain & RNC Campaigns, if you have ears to hear:

LISTEN UP AND DO LIKEWISE!

68 Those are all excellent ideas.  Thank you for all the contact information and for some practical, effective advice.

69

Heh, maybe this is exactly what McCain wants.

He needs for people to understand exactly what type of politician Obama! is and yet, he also needs to preserve his image as a "maverick" who reaches "across the aisle" to his "good friends" on the other side.

That's where we come in.

70 The Game Changer:  Joe the Plumber.

God bless this guy.  He totally gets it and he would be fantastic in commercials, done the right way, all the way to Nov. 4.

71 But maybe a concerted effort can convince him, just once, to listen to Republican voters on a crucial issue.

That's what I like about you, Ace: the triumph of hope over experience.

I've said for a long time that McCain is a putrid candidate. Obama or not, if he hadn't picked Palin, I wouldn't even consider voting for the GOP ticket, and I live in a battleground state. That said, I and my family are working on GOTV efforts. My 71 year old mother has been volunteering for the McCain campaign. And as long as voters don't give up before election day, I don't think that VA will go blue this year.

On the other hand, I'm stocking up on Samichlaus beer before election day, just in case. If Virginia goes blue, it'll be time for alcohol poisoning.

72 Bush refusing to make a case for his policies is why the Republican brand name was so tarnished going into this election. We desperately needed a candidate like Giuliani to make the case for our policies. [Had Giuliani been president instead of Bush, and had he enacted the exact same policies, Republicans wouldn't be in nearly this much trouble.]

Now, this election, we have John McCain blaming Wall Street greed instead of the real culprits -- the Democrats.

Since 1980, We've had two instances of effective articulation of our policies -- Reagan at the presidential level, and Gingrich/Armey in the House during the 1990s -- and both times we were spectacularly successful.

These weak candidates/leaders are absolutely KILLING us. It's an absolute disgrace that John McCain won the nomination. He's not a Republican, and it's fucking obvious.

Right now, we are as bad as the Dems -- we can make no coherent intellectual case as to why we deserve to be in power because

1) we lack high IQ candidates/leaders who understand markets/capitalism

2) the shameful spending of the last 8 years

3) much of the religious right agrees with Democrats on economic policy, which is going to make it hard for another Reagan talking about economic freedoms to make it through the primary process

Even if McCain somehow wins, I'm not at all optimistic about his presidency. Bleak times ahead for our side until the Dems really overreach an a few issues.

73 Ace, I've emailed this post along to those unfamiliar with your blog but leaning GOP. It's the best aggressive final effort to concert an attack into the final lead, maestro. Though the timing's tight, it makes for all the more DRAMATIC conclusion. All the more exciting!

Now to tackle the emails and phone calls. As they used to jingle, "Let your fingers do the walking..."

PUT YOUR MOUTH WHERE YOUR MONEY IS, FOLKS!

74 "3) much of the religious right agrees with Democrats on economic policy"

How did you reach this brilliant conclusion, just because Huckabee got some votes?

75

Re-racism:

McCain should say this- Folks, our current financial mess began when a number of good-hearted but economically unwise politicians and lawyers decided that banks and mortgage lenders should not be allowed to set their own rules for whom they would lend money.They did this because they saw racism as the only possible reason that banks were not giving more loans to minority Americans. Now banks are very interested in color, that is true, but the color they care about is green. I'm not sayng there hasn't been a racist decision ever in the mortgage business but lets face it, even a racist banker would lend money to a black man if he felt he would make a profit.

But our good-hearted economically unwise friends didn't see it that way and so they forced banks to lend to people, some of whom happen to be minorities, who simply couldn't afford to keep up with the payments.

In the end, good intentions coupled with a lack of common sense have hurt all of us but who will suffer the most?

Those same minorities who got the loans that good-hearted Barney Frank, and Barrack Obama sued and bullied the banks into giving loans to. Those Americans hit by this will lose homes, have their credit destroyed, or struggle to pay the inflated mortgage for a home that is worth considerably less than the price they will eventually pay.

I will be called racist for saying this. But let me ask you, if you were a racist, a person whose hate drove them to wish the worst on fellow Amercans due to color, could you have set up a worse fate for those people you despised?

This brings new light to Reagan's  scariest words in the English language: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

76 Called & E-mailed McCain's office.  Will do the same for the RNC.

Ace: Keep giving us productive things to do.  Let's drag McCain's ass across the line. 

-J

77

The second is the douchebag who shows up in a sportscar (a CAR!), wears a clean uniform, or, worse, patent leather shoes and a tie, and bends you over a sink with all the line items, change orders, emergency fees, etc.

Note to self: lose patent leather shoes and tie.

78 "The Game Changer:  Joe the Plumber."

God bless this guy.  He totally gets it and he would be fantastic in commercials, done the right way, all the way to Nov. 4.

Joe the Plumber vs Senator Government

79 You guys might also try contacting your local state McCain groups.  My state had phone numbers for actual people with names and positions.  Here is the page to get the info.

80 Cedric, I don't look forward at all to a  McCain presidency but we NEED to win this and then we can fight him for 4 years.

81 Count me in.

82

Posted by: El Kabong at October 16, 2008 06:22 AM (41KxF)

here's the Axelrod astroturfer talking point:  I thought last night that McCain won big (true) BUT blah, blah, blah

but Palin 2012, just stay home and pine for the future

 

83

"Socialism is making its case while capitalism remains silent," "capitalism isn't showing up."  Capitalism lost when McC, Republicans and otherwise smart conservatives capitulated to the Paulson/Bernanke panic-mongering and voted for the taxpayer-bailout approach to the credit debacle.  McC should have immediately opposed it and held his ground, as the majority of taxpayers wanted him to. 

I agree that McC should attack along the Fannie/Freddie/CRA/ACORN front, but conservatives should NOT make the mistake of asserting that Fannie/Freddie was the SOLE cause of this disaster.  The cause was a reckless global culture of debt, with a thousand fathers: disastrously low interest rates after the 2001 recession; failure to regulate derivative contracts; failure to control leverage ratios at top investment banks; widespread public financial illiteracy; greed and political market distortions that led folks to get ridiculous IO, NINJA, no-doc, ARM mortgages and cash-out refis; skyrocketing govt spending; impossible-to-meet entitlement and pension promises.

I still believe in free-market capitalism, but I've lost all hope of being able to persuade others to believe in it, especially when so many "conservatives" abandoned it in the last 30 days.

84 Grit your teeth and show some true grit, Cedric.

Obama will bring your doom and gloom in such overwhelming proportion, you will be smothered, snuffed out, groaning your spirit's departure.

If you fear that you're already dead, but realize you're still breathing, what vengeance are you going to enact against your murderer with your last stroke in life this election? Suicide a la bitch 'n moan pissing in your pants, or get a grip to defeat the corrupting Progressive's Chicago style politic's "The Last Hurrah" '08!

85 READ THIS PANTS SHITTERShttp://tinyurl.com/3p4hx4

86

Posted by: Jim Treacher at October 16, 2008 05:02 AM (NV3P1)

YES, and they are the ones on all the network news shows telling bold faced lies about ACORN.

But here on a leading conservative blog, all people can do is bitch about John McCain.  You guys are giving rhetorical aid and comfort to the enemy on a morning after their guy blew it big time.

If YOU ALL aren't willing to stand together and fight the liars and the democrats, there really isn't a damn thing one man can do, whether his name is John McCain or Superman.

87 The Game Changer:  Joe the Plumber.

Strange but true.  That's what it took to challenge The One.  A guy with an objection to being fleeced for the Messiah's political gain. 

88 You rock, ace!! Thank you! The final ad is being shown in the battleground states. Donate to them. Let's get to work people.

I cannot stress this enough. Besides the excellent suggestions above, GOTV. Call ten people each day, using McCain's phone bank. If you find someone on the fence or voting for BO, recite the ad to them. Make up your own script. I don't use McCain's. Three weeks left x 10 calls a day!

Defeatists, get your bony asses over to hotair. We have no need for you here. We're here to fight for McCain and our country.

89 Ace, maybe you should keep this thread at the top ...

90

Snap out of it, Ya'll. Please. This is really shameful. We all want the same thing. We have no chance in HELL of obtaining the prize when we are seeking as a a bunch of fragmented groups of people all going in different directions. I love this site. I love that there are so many passionately moronic people, that have a sense of humor but also love their country, understand conservatism and are reasonable in discussions.

I am no rocket scientist for sure. Rememebr this IS a site for morons. But, what happened to the talk about the $160 million going to go out in ads as soon as the debate was over? I know I saw stuff about that this weekend over here and I believed it. Was that wrong?

We are losing on a lot of fronts for many reasons. Not just one. It really is a Perfect Storm. I believe that 2 big problems are 1) that Republican pundits and leadership fight each other and critique each other in a detrimental and not constructive fashion. In my family - we really "got" that you didn't air your dirty laundry in public, and you didn't let others talk bad about your family.(after the election maybe not during- Duh!) DEMs get that at a pathological level. I watched John McCain give a winning performance last night. Then I watched in horror as pundits tore him down and say, in essence, all Obama had to do was show up and be smooth. He only "has" to do that BECAUSE THEY LET HIM! 2) I mentioned in comments after the second debate about hearing the 2 morning show DJs on a country music station discuss their disgust at the 2nd debate. They said they didn't care who was at fault (subprime mortage stuff) (they pretty much think ALL politicians are to blame) they wanted to hear not blame, but how to fix it. Now for morons like us, that's hard to swallow, we operate more logically - we want to reason - figure out the cause, the effect - THEN the solution. We get that if we don't know how it happened - we can't prevent future boneheaded repeats. BUT, the voters out there - there are lots that feel like those DJs. At the end of a hard day - for this type of voter - they work hard, and they don't want to spend too much time thinking or talking about political things. For this voter, the vote goes to who makes them feel like they care - like they have a good chance at having all the stuff they need for a comfortable life. They are working hard, they have responsibilities and they just want things to be taken care of regards to poltics. Is that healthy for democracy? NO! But, it is human nature. THAT very sensibility is what makes Nobama such a dangerous candidate - I mean, besides the MSM being in the tank in a thirsty way, besides Nobama and company being very comfortable and studied up on thug tactics to steal the election and intimidate their way to the White House, he talks in a way that people like to hear - IF they are they type who want to "feel well taken care of" if they aren't prone to studying up on political issues, (for some people that just makes them impatient). For this group of voters, Joe the Plumber is a gift to the cause of conservatism. Because out of Nobama's own mouth came the answer we have to drill home on all counts. 

I think our best chance is Joe the Plumber and Hockey Moms. It takes us right to the middle class. We freakin' ARE the party of Joe Six Pack. We need to quit kicking each other in the shins and ban TOGETHER. It is the ONLY way across the finsih line. TOGETHER waving the banner of Joe the Plumber, Hockey Moms R Us. Think of it this way - Joe the Plumber puts a warm middle class connect the dots face on the cause of conservatism versus socialism. It makes a dire subject more palatable to the public (who couldn't handle the Ayers stuff).

I am not looking down on voters. I am being realistic. We ENJOY politics, most people DO NOT. We NEED to connect with those people. Sarah Palin helped us connect with these people. Now John McCain has a way to connect with them. Thank God for the Gift of Joe the Plumber!

Happy to be a moron - hope you don't kick me out.

91

We're here to fight for McCain and our country.

Listen, if you want our help I suggest you change that to

We're here to fight for our country.

92 Don't quit, remember, it is better to die on your feet than live on your knees. Fuck the left.

93 Parep: Maybe that's why BO keeps saying MIDDLE CLASS every chance he gets. I received an email today from BO camp stating McCain doesn't want to help the Middle Class. I laughed. That's as ludicris as Bush doesn't like black people.

I've heard similar stories being told around the net. Inside pollsters from McCain's camp talking about how the polls are wrong and their info shows they are leading in some of the blue states. Why else would McCain-Palin be campaigning in MAINE, NEW HAMSHIRE, PENNSYLVANIA?

Sarah Palin rocks!!

POW/WOW '08

94

Posted by: freetofly at October 16, 2008 10:02 AM (BZ7+p)

EXCELLENT

95 OK. We're here to fight for our country! :-)

96

Again, if ACORN is such a peripheral issue, why have Barry's henchmen spread out over all the networks to refute it, and claim that Barry hasn't had a relationship with them for 13 years.?!?

What?  Barry, your campaign game them $823,000 this year.  McCain said that the Barry/Ayers Woods Fund gave them $230,000.  From those two numbers alone, that's more than a million dollars, and all more recently than 13 years ago.

You guys need to grow up, quit pining for Rudy (who I loved, but who is pro-choice and thus not acceptable to large numbers of republicans), and get in the damn game.

97 Where are our swift boat warriors?  Without them we'd have Kerry right now.  It's time to start kicking ass, unless you want to become Canada, sorry Chris. 

98 Yeah, you guys are right, fuck those other guys!

Hey other guys, you gonna take that shit from those first guys?

99 Where is Rudy? Mitt? Fred? Have they been out campaigning? Haven't heard.

I've seen a lot of Right Change ads in Arizona.

Also, if you do donate to the ads above, tell them NOT to advertise on FOX. That's just plain silly.

100

FIGHT!
The economy faults are "theirs"...
Great New Ad, McCain!

@HotAir

101 Not to be a dick, but....

Blah blah blah blah....

DID ANYONE FUCKING CALL?!!!!!!

We can jerk around all day in the comments. What good does that do?

For the record I emailed all contacts and called all the numbers.  I got bounced to voice mail on every occasion except one time when I got a hold of a bored lady named Claire who patiently, but unenthusiastically listened to my suggestions.

These people really don't want to talk to you.  I learned that you need to be friendly, get their names, and just launch into your spiel.  Otherwise, they'll transfer you to "someone who can help" and you'll get voice mail.

102

I'm going to keep it local.

Virginia is being owned by the Democrats at every turn. We'll lose John Warner's seat to golden boy Mark Warner, and we've got situationally moral Jim Webb digging himself into his seat tight as a tick. George Allen is finished (I always thought he was a lightweight poseur anyway), and Tim Kaine sits in the governor's mansion. Small wonder that the state is going to go for Obama, with votes to spare. Unreal. When we moved here in 1982, Virginia was beet-red.

I joined the state party in 2004 and sent in my first donation; a week later, the GOP-dominated VA House voted to raise the sales tax from 4% to 4.5%. With some very rare exceptions, like the western congressmen and a couple Northern Virginia diehards, Republicans in Virginia are RINOs: Tom Davis is the signature example. Good riddance, Tom. Don't let the door hit ya.

I'm going to support local--I mean, like, state delegation-local--VA conservatives with money. I don't have a lot of time to give, but when Corey Stewart runs in Prince William County on his successful, radical ICE-for-illegals agenda, he's going to get a check from me. Keith Fimian is going to get a check. I can also take a couple hours from dinnertime to get to the local debate and at least let these guys know that their conservatism is appreciated.

I'm also not going to vote RINO. I'll pull it for McCain this time, but this is the last time. Better that GOP state strategists wonder about voter turnout than get the signal that crap candidates are acceptable.

 

103 Just called my state office also.

Got voice mail. I'm trying a different extension.

104

"Where is Rudy? Mitt? Fred? Have they been out campaigning? Haven't heard."
Posted by: kimberly at October 16, 2008 10:18 AM

I did see Mitt Romney last night. He was a ray of sunshine in a gloomy bunch of nay sayers. I was wondering about Rudy myself. Not sure what's up with that.

** Good interview coming up on FOX with John McCain & Carl Cameron...Cameron says that in the interview McCain calls some of Nobama's talk is "class warfare" ** don't know when they are airing the whole thing.

105 I donated for the first and last time to McCain the day he announced Sarahcuda as his veep pick.  All the rest of my donations since Fred dropped out have gone to the American Issues Project and the like.  I'll donate to AIP again today - thanks for the nudge!

Also calling the RNC and McCain campaigns to tell them what and why.

106

"Where is Rudy? Mitt? Fred? Have they been out campaigning? Haven't heard."

Romney has been out campaigning for McCain every damn day.  He's been raising money, doing rallies, doing the talking head circuit, etc.. By far the most active surrogate.

Not sure how you could have missed him.

Rudy has done a few things.

Fred and Huck, thats a damn good question.  Only time I have seen Huck was to bash the bailout which was super helpful to McCain.  Haven't seen or heard from Fred since the convention.

107 Guys, I just emailed ace with this.

I just got off the phone with a woman named J.C. at the Let Freedom Ring website. As you know, they produced "Rein."

We talked for 15 minutes.  She was so much more responsive and helpful than anyone from the McCain campaign.

They're going to be running this ad through Nov 4th in battleground states.  Please tell your readers to contribute.  All donations go to their media fund which pays for production costs and ad buys.

She was extremely enthusiastic when I said some bloggers were starting a fundraising campaign.

Can you get others on board?  Let's do this!!!

Put your money where your mouth is. C'mon, lets fund these people.  They're doing what the McCain campaign should be doing.

108 When did you stop fighting for us sir?  I have voted for the conservative candidate in every election since I started voting in 1996.  I have made phone calls on behalf of candidates.  I was considering doing this next week, but I am now withdrawing my "manpower" support for you to concentrate on candidates that need help and are suffering because you are not taking on the "top" liberal running right now.  You should be hitting the financial crisis HARD against Obama, but you are not.  Run the ad "Rein" constantly.  Look at the successful ad 'Let Freedom Ring' ran and how it tested very well with undecideds.  Get behind the "What Happened" ad 'American Issues Project' runs.  Point out who caused this and that you worked to stop it and were brushed aside!  Stand up for yourself!  I don't want you to 'lose honorably'.  I want you to win, and win on something AMERICA wants to hear about, negative or not!  My next stop is to the American Issues Project to see where I can help them.  They actually care about addressing the issue Americans actually care about, and aren't concerned about 'losing honorably', but winning on the issues.

Thats my email to the McCain camp.  Yeah I know, why listen to the one guy peon who doesn't mean much.  And yeah, it probably will just be brushed aside, but I can't stand to watch this go down in flames.  The debate last night was okay for McCain, he hit some points well, but its not enough.  This stuff needs to be pushed every second of every day.

109 Donated to 'Let Freedom Ring'.  Looking for more things to do for this.

110 There you go, Tasan!  I hit them, too.  Feels good, doesn't it?

No more talk, guys.  It's time to take action.  Don't expect someone else to do it for you.

It's your country.  Do what it takes.

111 irrational exuberance.

Its lost folks.  It is not bad polls, too much Palin or lack of Palin.  It is not so much this issue or that - it is the candidate - he sucks.

Think, and remember - and you can save your Knute Rockney speeches.

112 Read zombietime's essay, Robert.

113 For those who could use a little good news, here's Geraghty's latest report from Obi-wan, who offers 3 indicators that McCain is doing better than we all think. Obi-wan has been involved in GOP elections for a long, long time, so if he's feeling optimistic, then there's probably something there.

114 106

"Where is Rudy? Mitt? Fred? Have they been out campaigning? Haven't heard."

Romney has been out campaigning for McCain every damn day.  He's been raising money, doing rallies, doing the talking head circuit, etc.. By far the most active surrogate.

Not sure how you could have missed him.

Rudy has done a few things.

Fred and Huck, thats a damn good question.  Only time I have seen Huck was to bash the bailout which was super helpful to McCain.  Haven't seen or heard from Fred since the convention.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2008 10:49 AM (VBon

JackStraw, honestly, they missed it because there is a virtual media blackout on any positive news, and any big time support for McCain from high profile people.  Romney was a few miles away from me a week or so ago, but I had no idea until the event was over. 

I think Rudy's been out there too--but unless somebody was a fan and googled his schedule, there's no way to know.

115 Eat shit, Robert.

Go somewhere else with that, you fucking clown.

So you hate McCain. Hooray for you. There aren't any conservatives you can contribute to? Can't do anything productive but spread your defeatism?

I'm sending a PUMA over to kick your ass, you homo.

116 Did you consider, Robert, that contributing to getting Freddie/Fannie attack ads benefits Republicans other than McCain?

No, you didn't.

Because your head is up your ass.  Wahhhhhh!!! It's over!!!  Save the speeches, guys!! It's over!!!

What the fuck is the matter with you?

117 Buh-bye, concern troll.

118 No, someone, he's legit.  I looked up his hash.

We've actually got sorry-asses like Robert on "our side."

Unbelievable.

119 totally with Ace.

The country thinks we're in a crisis. Whether it's real or not is not important. Obama said this is the biggest crisis "since the great depression" and McCain didn't argue.

Obama blames GOP policies. And McCain didn't argue.

How on earth does the GOP expect to win?

Capitalism is under attack. Socialism is on the march.

Socialim caused this mess and capitalism won't defend itself?

It's insane.

Total insanity.

This is bigger than McCain. This is about the direction of this country. People are being suckered into socialism, by using the crisis that socialism caused.

Worrying whether Ace is supporting McCain or not seems a little bit of polishing the brass on the titantic to me.

120 I sent $50 to let freedom ring and $25 to American issues project.  Not saying that to aggrandize, just letting you know people are responding.

121 Ace,
I do want to contribute to one of the 527s because their ads were great.  But which one is going to put some on TV in the next few weeks?  I don't want to waste my money.

122 PJ, they all will.  They all have already, and every dollar they get helps them buy more spots.

123 PJ,

Let Freedom Ring is the one that put out the Freddie/Fannie ad.

I talked to them today, they're airing this ad on television in battleground states leading up to the election.

Here's the link.

124 cranky,

I emailed ace and slublog about putting up a fundraiser post where we can keep a tally of our contributions.

I hit Let Freedom Ring for $100.

125 I sent an email yesterday to Let Freedom Ring suggesting an ad about the current financial crisis. Something like this:

 If you study history, you know that we tried increasing taxes and protectionism during a credit crisis before. It was called The Great Depression! See Amity Shlaes book The Forgotten Man for data or any Milton Friedman type economists. Amity Shlaes book (interview about her book) is timely as a great review of how government turned a severe recession into The Great Depression. (Taxes were increased every year through 1936!  Obama's plan will make things worse - not better.)

126 Warden @123, a tally post would be great.  I wish I could afford to send more to these guys, maybe I will try if I can see some kind of shift in things.  I've been kind of holding money back to stock up on metals and chemicals.  Brass, lead,  nitrocellulose, stuff like that.

I sent the following message to the McCain campaign.  The subject lines they give are kind of crappy, so I chose "Inform us about an event."  I hope they are listening:

The event in question is John McCain not fighting back hard enough on the Dems pinning the financial crisis on Republicans.  This is an issue everyone can understand, and has been put clearly in the ad sponsored by
"Let Freedom Ring."  It rated higher than any negative ad that has been played.  Then again, I don't see that it's negative to tell the truth about candidates for office.

I was elated at the choice of Sarah Palin as running mate, and as a result donated to the McCain campaign, the first time I have ever donated to any political campaign.  However, today I just sent money to "Let Freedom Ring" and to the "American Issues Project," since they don't seem to be afraid to tell the truth about who is responsible for this economic mess.  This is another first.

This election is too important to worry about appearing like a bad person.  The Obama campaign will paint John McCain with the "racist" brush no matter what John McCain does.  I hope he is going to hit harder on this issue, and I hope he will allow Sarah Palin to do the same.

Regards,

[my real name]

127

Warden: Don't get me wrong, I will donate to letfreedomring and volunteer for the good guy conservative candidate in my area. (Tom McClintock is a great guy and all around patriot).

But Robert is honest. We are now fighting for 2010 more than we are for November. And that's a good thing, of course. But be prepared for 2009-2010 to resemble 1993-1994 at best and 1977-1978 at worst.

128

Warden,

I am working, and contributing for two candidates in my area.  Fuck you.

A month ago, I had your view after Palin.  Believe it or not I called the campaign to volunteer 3 times - no call back.  I sent money.  McCain left my State.

But that does not change the fact that I have eyes and ears and have watched the debates: he sucks.  He can’t make a simple point with clarity, he fumbles and meanders and acts like he’s in the Senate.  He sucks air between his dentures and tongue or something.

"The fundamentals of the economy are strong" followed by that lame-ass explanation about the best workers?  Face it my friends, this guy sucks.

129

Robert: Don't add fuel to the fire. I think Warden overreacted, but I hate to see the good guys tearing at each other.

Otherwise, everyone prepare themselves for Carter redux. Just as Carter invited communists like Andrew Young and Tom Hayden to minor positions in his administration, so will Barry. And even the race-baiting is nothing new. Remember Rosalyn Carter's smear that Reagan Republicans "make us comfortable with our prejudices?" Commiecrats will be commiecrats and Demunists will be demunists. Even the Dhimmicrat angle with respect to Iran isn't new.

130 Now isn't the time to panic.

We're within 3 points in the national polls ---- and Barack is doing better in "Safe" states on both sides (because he's running national TV ads, which McCain is countering only in the swing states) than most candidates have, so it's even closer in the states that actually count.

And the ACORN bump is just starting, as is the "redistribution now!" Joe-the-Plumber bump.

I'm not saying it's in the bag, but despite everything you're hearing, McCain is doing quite well at this point.

We'll see what October surprises the liberals have been saving up for the last week, but I'm starting to have a good feeling about the election, again.

Now is not the time to panic or to stop fighting, but fight it like we're doing well, not like we're about to go down in a landslide.  The whole point of the ludicrous polls and "McCain's getting desperate" news spins are precisely to try to panic the McCain campaign, to get them to make some unforced errors.

Look at the behavior of the two candidates at the debate --- which one looked flustered and worried?  They both know McCain's closing strongly among the unprecedentedly high number of undecided voters.

Having said all that... donating to 527's is a really good piece of advice.  If you'd like to see Obama hit on the Born Alive Protection bill -- there's a 527 putting out really hard hitting ads on that.  If you'd like to see Obama and the democrats hit hard on their support for Fannie and Freddie and for subprime loans, there's a 527 for that, too.  And all of these ads do help McCain, and Republican candidates down the ticket.

131 Probably good advice Curmudgeon, I have to go back to work anyway.

132 Robert,

Great.  Go work for your candidates. Don't jump into a thread that's meant to mobilize and enthuse and suck all the air out of it with more McCain bashing.

That's not constructive.

Sorry for the overreaction, but c'mon, dude. 

This isn't over. We can win. You don't throw the towel in 3 weeks out, for God's sake.

133 Where things have gone wrong:

1) The Fan/Fred thing is a win.  McCain should have been hammering this one six weeks, two months ago, day in and day out.  We don't have to guess why this happened, we KNOW.  He should have been demanding the resignations of Sen Dodd and Rep Frank BY NAME.  He should be telling his audiences to ask Sen Obama what FNMA got for their outsize contributions to him.   He should own this issue, he's got the credibility on it, why is it barely a footnote?

2) Ayers doesn't work as an issue by itself.  You have to present it as a pattern of behavior - Rezko, Wright, Ayers, Pfleger, basically "does this guy have any associates who aren't criminals or cranks?"  And he should have started this five minutes after the piece congratulating Obama on the nomination.   Avoiding the issue for fear of being branded 'racist' is a sick joke.  We're all racists now.

3) Pull it all together.  The pieces are there but pull them together.   The economy imploded because of energy costs and pyramid-scheme lending promoted by Fan/Fred.  We know what happened with FNMA and we can fix it, Obama and his best buddies created this mess don't let them make it even worse.  Stable, low energy prices are the biggest stimulus this economy could have - once again, we have the answer and they don't.  He wants to spend the taxpayers into the poorhouse and as for all his other nice centrist talking points this campaign season - look at his history, look at his associates, look at what he won't tell you about his past, is he any more trustworthy than they are?

Of course, it would have been nice to do all this a long time ago.

134

If we must have a Democrat, this is the guy. I don't want some post-DLC southern centrist waffler. I want the unalloyed socialist, now more than ever.

The reason the last ten years have been so close? Democrats have become, after exile to the howling wilderness, tolerable. Carter was an unmitigated disaster, and put people off the brand for a decade and more. Mondale and Dukakis were both straight-up liberals, and promised more shitty governance.

Clinton, though, brought the Reagan Democrats back to the Jefferson-Jackson picnics, and we're reaping the results of his centrism and triangulation. Gore was Clinton's surgically-separated kin; by the time Kerry ran, voting Democrat wasn't a shameful act. I've even heard some commentators using the "L" word freely. Clinton altered the game and saved the party from obscurity. I won't take a backseat to anyone in my loathing of the philandering jagoff, but he was just what the Democrats needed, and at the right time.

Had Bill Clinton been a Barack Obama, 2000 and 2004 would've been walkovers; even a McCain would sweep 2008. Had Mark Warner beat Obama for the nomination, we could all hang up our cleats for a generation to come. It takes a hard liberal to galvanize the GOP, and this guy is going to do the job just fine.

135

...and as Anthony Burgess put it in one of his poems in "Abba, Abba" concerning Christ's crucifixion.

"Doomed to die/needs doomed to slay."

it's a symbiosis--we just have to hope it doesn't hurt too much.

136 railwriter - So, if John McCain were to openly suggest, now, that the philandering jagoff would be a good choice for the Supreme Court if Justice Stevens decided to hang up his robe, how many Republicans would be on the horn to their banks to stop payment on their contribution checks?

If you look at what kind of candidates a President McCain could ever get past the Senate, Clinton starts to look pretty good, and it certainly wouldn't move the Court to the left.

137

how many Republicans

half as many as would call for any Chicago Jesus appointee. Of course, the national party may be so fractious that they couldn't mount any kind of meaningful resistance anyway, contributions notwithstanding. Whether or not contributors recognize this now (or will) remains to be seen.

Clinton starts to look pretty good

I can't believe I'm typing this, but you're right, with "get past the Senate" being the operative phrase in your construct.

138 Thanks for the links.  Will send money...

139 railwriter - 'politics is the art of the possible' and all that.   It'd be the kind of grand, kick-the-base-in-the-teeth bipartisan gesture McCain's been known for but it'd have no net negative impact on their interests, I'd bet it'd play VERY well with the center and undecideds, and much as half the Senate privately would rather stab themselves in the scrotum than confirm Clinton publicly they'd do it anyway nearly without demur. 

Of course you're not going to do it if you know Clinton's going to stand up publicly and turn it down, but it'd say volumes if he DIDN'T.

140 Concur on all points.

141 I echo this sentiment:  Politico is left leaning poisonous crap.  Not a viable resource.

142 Thanks to Ace, already contributed to Let Freedom Ring. May do it again and again. Hooray!

143 d'OH!
About half a dozen posts up from here I was crying the blues about how I couldn't find the "What Happened?" video now that the YouTube copy of it is taken down!  Thank you for again exposing my tool-ness, but especially thank you for this vid!  Some people who need to see it will be seeing it this evening!

144
F*ck that!  Why should I do the fighting for someone that could/should do the fighting themselves?  F*ck John McCain.

145

F*ck that!  Why should I do the fighting for someone that could/should do the fighting themselves?  F*ck John McCain.

Because we can either bitch about what a shitty canidate John McCain is and let his refusal to address this issue tank the whole party, or we can decide we'd rather give a guy we're disapointed with a better shot at winning if it means keeping Obama out of the White House and the Dems from getting a fillibuster-proof majority.

146 Ace:  Why don't you use your considerable influence and ask Palin for us; which 527's SHE thinks will be effective in the last 2 weeks?

147

Money is on it's way for both the 527s mentioned here.....every little bit helps folks

148 @145 Vote for America, Vote McCain/Palin

When I vote, I'll be voting for my country, to keep out the Marxist overlord.

149 >>>Why don't you use your considerable influence and ask Palin for us; which 527's SHE thinks will be effective in the last 2 weeks?

If I had any idea of how to contact palin's people I would have stopped badgering  mccain's a month ago.

150 Did it ever occur to you that the reason McCain hasn't confronted Obama on the fact that this Crisis was created by Democrats is because it wasn't?

Obviously there is plenty of blame to go around and there are multiple factors (not merely poor homeowners) that contributed, but certainly, if this was as simple as you seem to imply, do you really think McCain, Palin, and the RNC wouldn't be making better hay out of it?

Fact is, had McCain brought it up at the debate, Obama would have made him look stupid.  McCain knew this and that is why he didn't.  Not that he was afraid. 

To say nothing of blaming the minority party for something that happened while the majority party was in complete control of basically all three branches is a bit silly.

Generally, people making the "Its the democrat's fault" argument know shit-all about the economy.  Like ace blaming the CRA. 

151 Ace, I read on Huff [hock..spit] Po that instead of Fannie, the RNC is hitting the Ayers thing hard in swing states, with pamphlets and robocalls.

http://tinyurl.com/5tqrak

152

Why should I do the fighting for someone that could/should do the fighting themselves? 

Because it's your country too, bro.

You really want to look at Obama's smug, imperious fucking face for the next 4 years and know that he and his Marxist goon squad pulled it off?

How about all the dishonest hacks in the media that carried his water?  You want them to be having a big back slapping party come November 4th?

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It's not about fighting for McCain, it's about fighting for yourself. Pick an organization that you believe is effective and give them some cash. You're in control. 

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I mentioned in comments after the second debate about hearing the 2 morning show DJs on a country music station discuss their disgust at the 2nd debate. They said they didn't care who was at fault (subprime mortage stuff) (they pretty much think ALL politicians are to blame) they wanted to hear not blame, but how to fix it.

I want to challenge this. Yes, people want to know how to fix it, but don't you think they'd be less inclined to go with Obama's fix-it plan if they knew he was one of the guys with his hands directly in the fm/fm till? And one of the guys who actually sued the banks to force them to make bad loans?

If I want to stop drunk driving, the chick who just blew a 1.5 after running over my nanna isn't the chick I'm going to pick to head up MADD.

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Fact is, had McCain brought it up at the debate, Obama would have made him look stupid.

How exactly SS? I think it might have gone something like this..

McCain: I partnered with three other Senate Republicans in 2005 to reform the government’s involvement in lending .

You Senator Obama and Senator Dodd took hundreds of thousands of dollars from the Fannie/Freddie lobbyists . What is your explanation for this?

Obama: Uh uh uh you're stupid...um uh... spread the wealth .
 
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Obama: um Hope and uh uh Change!

 Seattle Slough /MSM/libtards(masturbating furiously): Oh My God !listen to that voice!  Barry,Barry,BARRY ....unhhhghhhhhh

156 One thing to keep in mind - what is the strategic goal?

I submit, it is: Keep the Supreme Court from going ultra-liberal.

Tactically, then, I suggest that the priorities should be:
1. Keep Obama out of the White House
2. Keep the Senate from becoming filibuster-proof.
3. Miminize losses in the House

Blaming the Demos about the economic melt-down should be ONE prong of a multi-faceted attack. Right now, the Joe the Plumber thing with his exposure of Obama's wealth redistribution plans is really starting to resonate. The Ayers/ACORN attack can also bear fruit. I say keep up the attack on all fronts, and then concentrate where a weak spot appears. Kinda like a full-frontal assault to probe the enemy and keep him off-balance, then be flexible enough to respond quickly and concentrate where it will do the most good.

In this light, if the RNC wants to spend some resources on saving the senate, they are being good generals who are working on a defense in depth.

Meanwhile, let's not be like traditional Republicans, who are really good at "eating our own". Keep the objective in mine - mainting our Freedom.

157 Might be a bit late in the electoral season... but how about forming the "Black Flag" 527. 

"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."  Right?  Torches and Pitchforks.

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I think McCain is in a lose-lose position.... If he attacks the right, and completely distances himself, he will piss off a lot of Repubs...

If he dares utter the name *obama* with a negative tone, the full weight of the MSM bores down on him, and paints him as racist, or worse. He saw it happen to Bill and Hillary, and it killed her in the primary.

Average voters catch about 15 minutes of news, and that is it. If they don't watch FOX, and don't read the blogs, why would anyone NOT vote Obama?

McCain truly is the change agent, I think, because he is hated by far right Repubs and Dems. haha

I am surpised that Republicans are so critical of him. Where are you guys, showing up on talk shows, and supporting him, a la PUMA style?

"Why should I do the fighting for someone that could/should do the fighting themselves? "

Seriously? That is sad.

With two weeks left - you either help/support him, or say hello to Dictator Obama.

 

 

 

159 I just gave $25 to both LFR and AIP. This, mind you, is the first time I've ever seen fit to make any sort of contribution to a political campaign.

Referring back to comments I've made on previous threads (no doubt all but forgotten now, but what the hell), here's to giving Obama and the Dems their fountain of everlasting embarassment, and giving McCain, Palin and America their ace on the river.

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got this from human events today- fax blast, re: acorn-

'Congress must be called back into session IMMEDIATELY and emergency legislation must be passed that simply states that voters must produce a valid state or federal ID at the polls or have their votes counted only provisionally until legitimacy can be verified.'

Did it-hope it helps.
http://www.cfiflistmanager.org/acorn1he.html

161 WHERE IS BUSH????
I realize that McCain doesn't want bush to campaign, but in all his recent press conferences, he never once made an issue of Fannie and the dems. What gives???? He could have talked all about it , why is he awol? Pelosi trashed him what does he have to lose?

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Don't forget to help local Congresscritter-wannabes on our side like Keiran Lalor in NY 19th. Its a Republican leaning district, currently with a Rangle loving lib representing.

 

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I just sent $100 to American Issues Project.

Since I pretty much work from my car, I listen to talk radio quite a bit. In the past week, I have made calls into talk shows in Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati and have brought up points about Obama that were not being discussed.

I suggest this be part of the action plan as well. If you can...call!!

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Posted by: soozer at October 16, 2008 05:27 AM (OnRdm

 

Sir, yes sir! Donated $100, just based on the "Chicken Button" ad alone. (If you don't know what that is, go to http://neverfindout.org/ and watch some great ads).

165

Ace,

 How do we know the dough we donate will actually go now to fund ads? AIP says on its site it has no ads running. I want to help but I also want to be sure the money is being used when it's needed.

166 that's what it says?   Let me check, I'm not interested in funding internet-only advertisers.

167 all right, I called them.  they advertised before; I am trying to find out when they plan another buy.

168 Just donated a C-note to Let Freedom Ring. It ain't over 'til it's over.

169 McCain did well for himself on Fox News Sunday--ripped Chris Wallace specifically for not being able to distinguish between the Bush robocall lies trashing McCain's adopted daughter (and himself as well as the entire McCain family) and McCain's robocalls informing the public of the LONG ESTABLISHED RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OBAMA AND AYERS/DORHN that directly concerns Obama's judgment and dishonesty to America.

Then when Wallace attempted to make Obama's case that McCain had no message to America other than Bill Ayers, McCain again reiterated his campaign message being his economic plan to create jobs and cut taxes contrasted with Obama's plan to raise taxes and destroy American businesses and destroy American jobs.

McCain stressed Obama's dishonesty also re: campaign contributions unaccounted for and the double edged ACORN sword swiping the economy out from under America/the world and our election as well.

LOL when Bill Krystol blew a hole through Juan Williams argument before Juan had a chance to say "Joe The Plumber" ought to be grateful to Obama.

Channel surfed over to hear (with Stephanopoulis) Gingrich defend Republican McCain on the economy and international diplomacy with all eyes on Pakistan as the volatile epicenter for the next Middle East crisis ready to occur.

Republicans scored well on the media this week, better than before this last debate, so TAKE HEART. But Obama's spending overload from donations on ADS and work stations need direct volunteer and contribution intervention as Ace advises, so DO SOMETHING POSITIVE.

Call up and connect with the McCain volunteer phoneline. Your number remains secure and private so you have that element of insulation for the comfort zone between you and those you call. Ace readers have polished so many talking points. We're a mining mother lode. Now don't stay idle and hidden down under when we have so much to offer right now.

170 Just got back from NC State Fair. Overwhelming support for McCain. I could not get near republican booth for some time. When i finally got up there they were out of McCain/Palin stickers. Liddy Dole had her own booth in Kerr Scott Bldg. I know we are in trouble, but it was nice to see. Only saw two Obama stickers. Whatever.

171 Not to be negative, but Yahoo is reporting that the all merciful Messiah raised over $150 million last month. More than double the One's record of $65 million.

Something like 1,750,000 people at an average contribution of $86 per person. Of course the details were fuzzy from the all knowing all merciful One.

Excuse my french, but I call BULLSHIT!

I've raised money for political campaigns, the average Joe at best will give $25, maybe $50. A well off guy $100. Only the very well off and well motivated will give more. Average $86 with huge amount of anonymous donars - NO FRIGGING WAY!

Obama didn't have time for a lot of posh big time fundraisers, although he did one with Streisand that raised I think $9 million.

Where did all the big donations come from? Of course the vast majority will be just under $200, so we won't get any info on who gave.

The only way this could happen was illegally bundled Soros or Foreign money.

It appears our foreign enemies are buying this election. Obama is now outspending Mac 4 to 1.

172 I put my money down for these - thanks Ace!

173

One more thing, Ace:

Right Change's ads are intirely web-based.  They have never run a television ad.  Posted by: toetotoetotoe at October 16, 2008 05:17 AM (X8Omj)

41 okay i'll take them out.
This is bullshit, Ace and ToetoToe. RightChange most certainly does run television ads, and lots of them. All the ads you see on their web site are running on Fox, CNN, and others. In fact we had this discussion last week already, and commenters were reporting on where/which networks they'd seen them on.   Please reinstate RightChange stat, Ace. Their ads are some of the best out there, esp. on the Frannie Freddie issue.    

174 The website says they're web-only, but if it's true they're running on TV, that's great.  You're right, they have some of the best ones out there.  Someone might want to tell them to change the info about the ads on their website, if you in fact are correct, though...

175 You're right, Jen.  They are running TV ads.  And the website has been updated to show that.  They must have started running these ads in the past week.

176 The RightChange ads have been running for at least a month. I saw the bungee jump guy in September in FoxNews. Must be bad detail on the website. Or was bad detail. Agreed, they have some great ads. Ace should put them up in the post with LFR and AIP.

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