1 Seriously? Sweet @$$

2 Bout effin time!

3 Game on

4 Hopefully this will send Obama down like a $5 hooker.

5 Shite!

6 Holy Shit.  Any involvement of the One?

7 "Hopefully this will send Obama down like a $5 hooker."

Nah, dude, that's just a come-on. They always try to upsell you.

8 Goddamn. And I was thisclose to a comment calling BS (or at least wish-fantasy) on the other day's Freeper speculation that Fitzgerald was working up a RICO case against Obama and ACORN in Chicago.  This isn't the same, but close enough for government work.

9 Good. It's a criminal enterprise. I bet that raid helped tie the interstate activities together.

10 Excellent. Fucking excellent.

11

No way!

Oh, this is AWESOME! So is this only in Ohio, or is it a nation-wide thing? Or can it be expanded to nation-wide?

October Suprise Barry, ain't it a bitch!

12 Hey you guys! You better not dare mention that Obama has extensive ties to Acorn....because that would be totally racist.  So what if every single organization and person that he has aligned himself with has turned out to be either a terrorist or a hate-monger, and that he probably knew that at the time.  Obama says he's a nice guy, and that's really about as deep as I'm willing to dig.

Now what about that little fucker who knocked up Bristol???  I need 5 reporters following him day and night.  We'll ruin his life yet!

13

Fuck Yeah!

Keep it coming, daddy.

14 Rollo Tomasi

15 Former terrorists and present racketeers:  The New Politics of Hope.

Go get 'em, DOJ.

16 I have no other information.

I will tell you however that there's no way in hell Obama is named as part of it.  That's just basic common sense.  he's not actually part of the organization.  This action is going to be controversial enough without trying to link Obama into it directly.

I have no idea if it's statewide or national.  A US Attorney has a wide purview, of course.

17

Ah, too late.  It's like the German parliament launching an investigation against the activities of the SA the day before Hilter assumed the Chancellorship.

I, for one, welcome our new Democrat Overlords.

18 i guess I also don't know if it's OHIO ACORN or ACORN national... hmmm... I'll see if I can get clarification.

19 Hey, Obama - baby, sit on this!

20 THAT'S NOT THE $800,000.00 CHECK I THOUGHT I KNEW!!!

21 Jesus was a defendant.

Pilate was a prosecutor

22 No "Hatch Act"

23 "Jesus was a defendant myth."

There. Corrected.

24 I Hate it when I miss the Flaming Skull Pretty Awesome News though

25 This is just another attempt to distract the American people. They are Democrats and therefore have the right to fradulently influence elections. Google it!!

26 Can I have beefcake and cowbell?

I mean, the market failing to die today (even if it's a hiccup) needs a warm fuzzy moment.

27 I gotta Obama connection:

Then, it was a rump confederation of various liberal-leftish activists calling itself the New Party, a name I always liked for its future potential as a quaintly interesting anachronism (after all, we live in 340-year-old "New" York, right?). But by 1997, the New Party had fizzled. Cantor hooked up with some other activists to try again. This time, they put their heads together, and I suppose did some polling, and decided they needed a name that delivered some idea of what they stood for (e.g., living wage, minimum wage, health care for poor people, federal dollars out of Washington). They amassed some institutional -- that is, union -- backing. They became the Working Families Party.

http://tinyurl.com/3qyvy7

-------

WFP Officers:

Patrick Gaspard
Board Member
330 West 42nd Street
New York, NY 10036

Bertha Lewis
Co-Chair
88 Third Avenue 3rd Floor
Brooklyn, NY 11217

-------

Patrick Gaspard
Republicans are attacking Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and his presidential campaign over his new political director who was accused of using felons to get out the vote for the 2004 presidential election in Ohio.

The Obama campaign announced yesterday that Patrick Gaspard will be its new national political director. Gaspard, a New York labor official, was the national field director for America Coming Together during the 2004 cycle. That year the Associated Press reported that ACT under Gaspard paid convicted felons to canvass homes and solicit private information (including Social Security numbers) from voters as part of its GOTV effort. The AP also noted that it is not illegal for felons to canvass, though they are not allowed to vote.

http://tinyurl.com/4a9x3b

-------

Bertha Lewis
The Obama presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee declined to comment on the raid.

But Bertha Lewis, ACORN's interim chief organizer in Las Vegas, called it a political hit job and said the organization for months had tried in vain to work with Nevada elections officials to identify potentially fraudulent voter applications.

http://tinyurl.com/3wuwem

28 Man I hope it's against the national acorn.  That would be some sweet news.

K

29 I will tell you however that there's no way in hell Obama is named as part of it.

Doesn't matter.  He will have to defend ACORN.  He can lie about Ayers and the MSM will cover for him, but the ties to ACORN are too tight and too obvious.

30 The flaming skull of ganja flames for thee, Acorn!  About time.

31 Ace you made my day big daddy!

32 That's good for tomorrow, what about the day after? I mean, we're talking a bottomless well of sleaze here, so how can we keep dipping it out until the election?

33 Hopefully the name BRUNNER will appear somewhere in that stack of paper. 

34 Number of erections:

threve

35 It's gonna get real ugly in the next few weeks. be careful out there , I mean it. The backlash against reality will not be pretty from the nutroots and their compatriots.

36 Hopefully, this will get other states to follow suit.  It's way past time these thugs were put out of business.

37 Just before the debate?

Oh, please be true. Please be true.

That is such a God awful, treacherous organization. Please let America know who those people are and Obama's extensive connection to them.

38 Please McCain camp! Get a new ad buy out showing Obama saying ACORN will help to "shape the agenda" in his administration.

39 We are dismayed by the sudden, negative turn this election has taken.

40 That's good for tomorrow, what about the day after? I mean, we're talking a bottomless well of sleaze here, so how can we keep dipping it out until the election?

Posted by: cthulhu at October 13, 2008 01:14 PM (yp/p1)

It sounds like you're talking about ErikTheRed's $5 hookers.

41 Ace, you magnificent bastard! (AYMB)

42 Mentioning ACORN is racist because squirrels eat them, and some squirrels are black.  Ace, why do you discriminate against squirrels?  RACIST SPECIEIST!

43

Wet blanket time. 

Even if this becomes a national investigation, and say McCain loses close in ACORN infested states - who believes that Country First will actually challenge the results in court?  He's more likely to refrain from conflict out of bipartisanship.

 

44 Nice to get a little good news for a change.

45 @38 Please McCain camp! Get a new ad buy out showing Obama saying ACORN will help to "shape the agenda" in his administration.

+1

46
It won't make any difference. The MSM will attack the GOP for a "political", "desperate", and "racially motivated" prosecution. It'll just be more fodder for the smear machine. As for Barry, he'll just say, "ACORN? What's ACORN?" and go on his merry way.

I hope to God I'm wrong. But I haven't seen anything yet to dissuade me of my belief that the nation is about to be utterly screwed.

47 I can only hope that this pans out. Chicago style politics working across this country is really scary. I thought the Clintons were bad, but they pale in comparison to Obama. Wait, is that racist?

48

"Wet blanket time."

It definitely sounds like you're talking about ErikTheRed's $5 hookers.

49 Fully erect on the Al Goldstein peter-meter, and then some.

Now, will McCain milk this for the next 3 weeks or not? And will this get the REAL coverage it obviously, in a non-corrupted-Pravada-esque media world, it deserves?

For now, the flaming skull is a very heartening sign.

GO ACE!

50

unless Obama wins by alot, I don't see how it will be seen as legit by almost all conservatives.  This is a real recipe for race riots like we've never seen before.

 

Thanks MSM

51 Hopefully, this will get other states to follow suit.

If this is a US Attorney, his/her writ runs nationwide.

Not that it wouldn't be awesome to also see various state AGs following suit.

52 Yay!  They need to do something. 

53 I question the timing.

(someone has to say it)

54 FBI just raided the ACORN offices here in NV last week.

RICO requires multiple states, right? Otherwise it's just state prosecutors who get involved?

55 JP,

  We don't riot.  We complain about the results, bear the extra burden, and work twice as hard to take care of our families.

-J

56 Woo-hoo, bringin' in the big guns! Strike 'em all, i say, have all the ACORN "registrations" trashed as 1 job lot, and use the teachable moment to remind Ohioans exactly how their state works. Or is supposed to work, right now. Hold ACORN itself responsible for the "extra" registrations, and remind them that they are liable for ELECTION FRAUD if they don't clean their act up by 11/03. ('Cause 11/04/08 is too late!)

This will not be the first or last time that Ohio needs to be sternly addressed by the US government, but this should have better results that the usual quarrel over ODOT funding.
 

57

My acorns are fully immersed in the warm soothing goodness that is this story.

Light.  Drag.  Exhale.

58

Since RICO is a federal statute, it may not necessarily be just Ohio, but it sure can spread across state lines real quick.

More and more, this plants little seeds (acorns?) of doubt in the minds of voters.

59 >>>RICO requires multiple states, right? Otherwise it's just state prosecutors who get involved?

Hmmm... not certain.  Federal crimes generally require interstate action at some point but  they can sometimes finesse this if the crime "affects" interstate commerce.

Not sure if the RICO statute definitely requires interstate crimes... if it did, a Chicago mob operating entirely within the state would be immune. 

60 As an Ohioan, I have already dipped my balls thrice.

61 http://www.johnmccain.com/
videolanding/acorn1.htm?sid=
google&tobama&r=
obamaacornvideo

John McCain campaign's ACORN Obama ad

banks, risky loans, nationwide voter fraud

tinyurl just won't work for me on my mac...probably not the macs fault though

62 Barack is innocent cuz ACORN sez so. They even scrubbed their website to prove this point.
Via - wikileaks
http://tinyurl.com/43qdh6

63 Racism
Is
Coming to
Ohio!

64 BUNK!

65 Based on what has happened in the past, this will only make Obama's poll numbers go up.

It's a political law of some sort.  I can't explain it, but there it is.

66 plus they can always get you for using the mail and phone system in furtherance of your crime.  mail fraud, automatic federal jurisdiction.

67 Well this makes up for the fact Gloria Steinem will be speaking in the auditorium next my office in less than hour. The silver lining in this dark cloud they moved the her talk from a larger hall to a smaller one.

68 Oh, and the link to that ad I just posted? Came up in the sidebar ads on google when I went to find a story about the FBI raiding the NV ACORN offices last week.

Watch it---amazing video, starts with "I'm John McCain, and I approve this message"

69 Flaming skull and cow bell?! 

It's sheer insanity!

70 Federal crimes generally require interstate action at some point...

What about crimes on federal property, e.g., the local post office?

Or crimes involving, say, national elections in a particular state?

71 I'd love to believe this will have some effect on the Teflon One.  There's no good reason for it to not... but our enemies are neither good nor reasonable. 

72

Will Youngblood be helping too?

73 They will tie this to McCain, Obama won't feel a thing.  Michelle Malkin has a story up right now about McCain's link to ACORN - this is why he hasn't been pushing it.

74 Screw McCain. Palin has to jump all over this.

75 Hmmmm. just state authorities raiding the NV ACORN office, apparently:

Nevada state authorities seized records and computers Tuesday from the Las Vegas office of an organization that tries to get low-income people registered to vote, after fielding complaints of voter fraud.

Bob Walsh, spokesman for the Nevada secretary of state's office, told FOXNews.com the raid was prompted by ongoing complaints about "erroneous" registration information being submitted by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, also called ACORN.

The group was submitting the information through a voter sign-up drive known as Project Vote.

"Some of them used nonexistent names, some of them used false addresses and some of them were duplicates of previously filed applications," Walsh said, describing the complaints, which largely came from the registrar in Clark County, Nev.

Secretary of State Ross Miller said the fraudulent registrations included forms for the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys football team.

"Tony Romo is not registered to vote in the state of Nevada, and anybody trying to pose as Terrell Owens won't be able to cast a ballot on Nov. 4," Miller said.

Walsh said agents from both the secretary of state's office and Nevada attorney general's office conducted the raid at 9:30 a.m. local time, and "took a bunch of stuff." Miller's office reported seizing eight computer hard drives and about 20 boxes of documents.

Bertha Lewis, interim chief organizer for ACORN, released a statement saying the group has for months been turning over any suspicious registration information to elections officials. She said those officials routinely ignored their tips, and called the raid a "stunt."

76 #47, you did say the Clintons were "pale" and then contrasted them with Obama, so those are obvious racial overtones.

77 The MSM will attack the GOP for a "political", "desperate", and "racially motivated" prosecution

Yeah, Brownline, I can imagine the same thing.
The left didn't work so hard on the firing of US Attorneys (whom they never supported anyway) for no reason.  It's been important to make the DoJ and US Attorneys seem exceptionally tainted by politics.   That will come in handy when they accuse this USAttorney of doing this for the Republicans.

78 ace, have you seen this video already?

http://www.johnmccain.com/
videolanding/acorn1.htm?sid=
google&tobama&r=obamaacornvideo

79 Someone explain the cow bell theme to me because I ain't gettin nuttin.

80 "As an Ohioan, I have already dipped my balls thrice."

Many Ohioans have already VOTED thrice.  If not more.

81 I sent my email to Gov. Crist as promised the other day. Got back a form email directing me to the gov's site for emergency preparedness. Hmmmm.

82 Ace,

Don't get my hopes up.

Don't you dare.

83

Eh; the media will advance the spin that there were only a handful of ACORN canvassers who were involved without the organization's knowledge, that they try to prevent it, etc.

There may be a little merit to the argument that it was individual canvassers doing this, but it happens every fucking election with the same fucking result and yet they continue knowing full well what the result of paying poor people for each registration they get- legit or not.  Even if most of the duplicate and fake registrations don't result in a vote, the flood of fake registrations make catching vote fraud that much harder.

The MSM will let Obama slide.  They'll bury Obama's $800,000 "get out the (fraudulent) vote" contribution while endlessly repeating the Dem charges of this being a politically motivated effort by Republicans to suppress the votes of minorities, and that fake registrations don't necessarily lead to extra votes.

84 I wanna see this.  Actually, I wanna see a lot more than this.  I wanna see something like this every two days until the election. 

My hope is that there's enough material, and that sooner or later the dam will break and the flood of crap will leave Obama stranded on a rock surrounded by former associates singing like canaries. 

I want to see the NY Times finally get greedy and decide they have to cover news - like their Godhead's world coming unraveled - if they want to sell newspapers (that doesn't mean I don't want to see them out of business by 2012, but I'll give them a six-month reprieve in exchange for a little ethical behavior.)

And I want to see the McCain camp recognize that it's more important to be right and honest than to do anything to avoid being called racist by a bunch of racists.

Only a hope at this point.

85 Thank you ace, much better news to wake up to.

86 I'll wait patiently for McCain to release an ad with the Obama quote:

An acorn doesn't fall far from the tree.

Tick tock tick tock.

87 This is significant for the "We Will Not Be Silenced" crowd - Obama paid an offshoot group of ACORN to help in the Ohio Primaries.

I'm sure Hillary and her supporters are feeling the burn of having been swindled. I think this makes it less likely that McCain will lose. Hillary supporters who are good Democrats are supporting Obama, but if their worst suspicions are proven to be true - do you think they will continue to support Obama?

88 Someone explain the cow bell theme to me because I ain't gettin nuttin.

Christoph, go to YouTube and type "more cowbell" into the search box.

89 What the hell do we women get to dip, dammit?

And why am I kind of afraid of the answer?

90 Based on what has happened in the past, this will only make Obama's poll numbers go up.

And?

91

No hard feelings here, either, dude. 

 

 

92 Hollowpoint, you cannot be serious. Because Campbell Brown and that phat phuk Roland Martin are going to spin like tops, you don't think this ACORN issue is a huge deal?

Thank God for PUMAs, because way too many of the rest of you have lost your minds.

93 Based on what has happened in the past, polls are horsecrap.

94 Is this why Obama wanted television time on networks for the 29th?  Perhaps he realized he was going to have a lot of fires to put out by then?

95 http://www.johnmccain.com/
videolanding/acorn1.htm?sid=
google&tobama&r=
obamaacornvideo

96 Oh, please be true. Please, please, please be true.

97 Take a look at this summary. Esp. II.3. It looks like any RICO violation (breaking federal law for profit) is interstate commerce, otherwise the underlying federal law wouldn't be valid.

98 Market up 600 points, RICO charges against ACORN. Now what we need is some new Ayers revelations.

If we trip up Obama, and yank McCain hard enough, we may just yet be able to win this thing.

99 Wait ... I go do some work and come back to a flaming skull, cowbells, and the most awesome Def Leopard?

Hell yeah.

I'll second that ... Ace, you magnificant bastard!!

100 Sorry to do this, but Ms. Malkin has a wet blanket too.

101 Hmmm... not certain.  Federal crimes generally require interstate action at some point but  they can sometimes finesse this if the crime "affects" interstate commerce.

     --Ace #59

Doesn't all ACORN have to do is mail a lettter with the letter involving the crime to make it interstate?  The letter shouldn't even have to be interstate since the Federal Government is involved (USPS).

102

Ace, when this comes out tomorrow, we want CHEESECAKE!

Hell we'll take it now.

103 ACORN what? Hey, did you hear Angelina Jolie just got a new tattoo!

104 OK.  I'm holding off on wanking all over that flaming skull image until the shit actually hits the fan.

I've got my balls out but there's no dipping.  At all.

I'm looking at the "dipping sauce" and while it looks real good and all dip worthy - I ain't gonna commit just yet.

I'm also not wanking while I wait.

Just standing here.

Waiting...

Not wanking...

Thinking about wanking while not wanking is tough.

It's tough but I'm actually puling this off!

All while I continue to not wank.

_{( Must not wank... must not wank... )}

105 Lt. Horatio Caine just called. He says Bill and Hillary provided the tip. And he asked for Calleigh's phone number.

106 Obligatory video: R-r-r-r-ico.

107 Sorry, didn't see Ace's F/U at #66.

108 "Sorry to do this, but Ms. Malkin has a wet blanket too."

Sweet.

109 Does Michelle have to post it? Well, yes she does. After all, she can't stand McCain and has to keep her followers in defeatism mode. Arrrrgh!

110

Barry: Tell me how my ass tastes.

 

Sincerely,

US Attorney

111

BuckNutty - Let's just drop the sham that is "McCain" and put up signs "Palin for Vice President 2008". Let Palin run however she wants, including against Amnesty and against ACORN, and dare McCain to do anything about it.

I'm done listening to McCain. Let's win this one without his help.

112 89 What the hell do we women get to dip, dammit?

I think we get to teabag the ta-tas.

113 So what's the net effect of this? Can they get an injunction on ACORN activities? A search warrent to go through their national organization files looking for evidence? Because they've really only got until Nov. 4th before the investigation dies.

114 RICO Means thishttp://tinyurl.com/f3jux

115 It's '...throwin' out the baby with the bath water' time.  We need a national movement to throw out every US House representative and the full 1/3 of the Senate that is running this year.  Every incumbent should go.  WTF do the American people owe these incompetents.

116 Merry Fitzmas!   Merry Fitzmas!

117 Barack Obama = Kuato from total recall

RICO = Dude that shoots Kuato in his fucked up mutanthead

118 I won't even give Malkin the traffic. She wants Obama to win this election.

She has let her personal grudge against John McCain convince her that Obama would be a better POTUS and CinC during a time of war.

I actually feel sorry for her husband. Imagine living with that kind of obsessive, nagging perfectionist. Beauty is truly only skin deep.

119 This all comes back to the "Interstate Commerce" clause.

Our delightful Supreme Court has already ruled that IC means whatever the government wants. Things like a mom and pop popsicle stand that's entirely from home grown fruit and well water and only sells to residents of their own town is still "Interstate Commerce."

(Which isn't horrible - it means the FDA can slap them. But it isn't what's written in the text IMNSFHO.)

120 I think we need this song too

121 Billy Squire too! How about Bad Motor Scooter? Look how young Hager looks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmXtSlEoWts&feature=related

122 Wow, Michelle's blanket is soaking: I just read her post.

123 We gals get to dip our boobies. And then create a nice print for the fellas here. I'll take a pass on their prints though.

124
I actually feel sorry for her husband. Imagine living with that kind of obsessive, nagging perfectionist.

heh.

125 I won't even give Malkin the traffic. She wants Obama to win this election.

She has let her personal grudge against John McCain convince her that Obama would be a better POTUS and CinC during a time of war.

I actually feel sorry for her husband. Imagine living with that kind of obsessive, nagging perfectionist. Beauty is truly only skin deep.

Posted by: funky chicken at October 13, 2008 01:49 PM (xyyHG)

funky chicken, you post at Hot Air a lot, don't you? How isn't that giving Michelle Malkin the traffic?

And no, I wouldn't want to be her husband either, but that's mostly because of her preening Catholicism.

126 WTF do the American people owe these incompetents.

Humane treatment on death row.
A warm last meal.
A blindfold and a cigarette.
Aiming for a clean kill.

I got nuthin'.

127

I hate to temper the enthusiasm, but this will not affect the election. Of course Acorn is bad, of course the Dems are corrupt, but nobody cares except us and we were not voting for Obama. This investigation will be slightly delayed until Obama takes office and then will be dropped. The media won't report it and the few remaining swing voters will think this is just the price one pays for hope and change and that it is just a dirty trick by the Republicans. The reality is they have the votes without cheating they were just doing it because well it is instinct. Someone please tell me I am wrong. I wan't to be Wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

128 Posted by: NM Hick at October 13, 2008 01:42 PM (STXJ7)

Michelle Malkin needs to start working the steps again on her MDS.  Appearing once or twice at rallies organized in conjunction with ACORN in 2006 is not the same as paying it effin $800,000, training its activists, working through its front groups, and so on, and so on. 

129 Posted by: Christoph at October 13, 2008 01:52 PM (hawOV)

I'm all done over there.....Allah is also basically a cheerleader for Obama.

3 weeks to the election, and they have shown their hands. I hope they like all of their Paulbot and Obama monkey friends. I believe that's about all they will retain after the election.

130

Hollowpoint, you cannot be serious. Because Campbell Brown and that phat phuk Roland Martin are going to spin like tops, you don't think this ACORN issue is a huge deal?

Thank God for PUMAs, because way too many of the rest of you have lost your minds.

It doesn't matter how huge a deal you or I think it is if the MSM manages to convince the rest of the country that this is little more than a politically motivated investigation of little consequence and irrelevant to the Obama campaign.

Yes, it's a big deal- ACORN has been pulling this shit every election since at least the early 1990's, resulting in who-knows-how-many fraudulent votes.  That they've gotten away with it for so long with so little scrutiny or consequence only reinforces my point.

131 Last week a local talk show jock had Ken Blackwell on the air for an interview. Blackwell was asked if ACORN could be charged with RICO violations for their actions. He was very prompt & vigorous with his agreement. Maybe someone in Ohio government somewhere was listening and made some phone calls? Or was Blackwell just ahead of the crowd in anticipating the response from DOJ?

132 Awesome. ACORN reps always claimed that ACORN was the 'victim' when their people got caught committing fraud, time and time again.

If I was sick of that line of bull, I bet the various prosecutors that have had to deal with this sham organization were really extra-extra sick of it.

Prosecutors don't like getting lied to. They have kind of a hard-on for nailing people who lie to them, in fact.

133

25 This is just another attempt to distract the American people. They are Democrats and therefore have the right to fradulently influence elections. Google it!!

For a moment there, I thought you said "flatulently."

134 Off topic, but here's an insightful article by Ed Morrissey that exactly matches my analysis of the situation in Afghanistan too.

In short, the new British Army = the reputed French Army... at least where the high command is concerned.

135 If you follow the link #114 posted you will read:

When the U.S. Attorney decides to indict someone under RICO, he or she has the option of seeking a pre-trial restraining order or injunction to temporarily seize a defendant's assets and prevent the transfer of potentially forfeitable property

Translation:  Money is frozen therefore ACORN will have a very tough time funding their GOTV on Nov 4th. 

136

Michelle Malkin needs to decide whose side she's on.  I'm more than just a little bit sick of her constant bitching about McCain.

 

137 You got that right, CK.

ace, please don't post that crap. Let's all enjoy this moment.

Okay, ntac, you're wrong. ACORN is an important element in this election cycle. Did you read the posts from some of BO's followers the other day? They were all wondering why their beloved would be kneedeep in ACORN shit. It is having an effect with voters.

138 The rally in Miami is being sponsored by the New American Opportunity campaign (NAOC) in partnership with ACORN, Catholic Legal Services - Archdiocese of Miami, Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center, Florida Immigrant Coalition, Miami Dade College, People for the American Way/Mi Familia Vota en Acción, Service Employees International Union, and UNITE HERE.

That's a lot of other mother fuckers in the room to say that McCain has got ACORN spooge all over the his wrinkly ass.  Plus,  that was a 2006 "get together" that probably included a lot of Republican Cubans.

On the other hand,  Obama worked with ACORN,  worked for ACORN and represented ACORN in legal matters as an attorney,  and hired ACORN to do get out the vote work during this campaign.  That means Obama is dripping with so much ACORN spooge if you shine a UV light on him he lights up like a fucking peep show booth at 3 AM.  In Las Vegas.  After a sex addicts convention.  During a janitorial strike.

139 IMPACTING HARD...

I am now convinced that Obama would enjoy being impacted hard...

140

So Obama/media have a talking point against McCain on ACORN now.

 

Still, McCain's appearence over the immigration issue is nothing compared to Obama's ties to ACORN

141

I won't even give Malkin the traffic. She wants Obama to win this election.

She has let her personal grudge against John McCain convince her that Obama would be a better POTUS and CinC during a time of war.

I actually feel sorry for her husband. Imagine living with that kind of obsessive, nagging perfectionist. Beauty is truly only skin deep.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who feels this way.

142

Yes, the RICO charges are going to be great ammunition, but they have to be deployed squarely in the face of The One.  I would imagine that the state governments, like in Nevada, have taken the lead in gathering all the info. at the state level, and have turned over their evidence to the Feds.  If the same names of workers, staff, trainers, etc., pop up in more than one state, bingo! - Interstate activities, grounds for a RICO case.

I may be just a little country lawyer, but I can see the writing on the wall for Captain Acorn, and it spells:  D-E-F-E-A-T.

 

143 Not to go OT, but cleanup needed on post #55 over at the "PUMAs needed . . . Obama/Ayers" thread

144 "I, for one, welcome our new Democrat Overlords"

Sorry, its. "I, for one, welcome our new Socialist Overlords"

145 It won't make any difference. The MSM will attack the GOP for a "political", "desperate", and "racially motivated" prosecution. It'll just be more fodder for the smear machine. As for Barry, he'll just say, "ACORN? What's ACORN?" and go on his merry way.

Expect no questions regarding this in tomorrow night's debate. Also, no questions on guns or post-birth "abortions". Instead, expect the following:

1) Sen. Obama, how soon after your ascension will the seas start to recede? Because I'm thinking of buying some land currently underwater that will become ocean front after your magically heal the world.

2) Mr. McCain, does the cancer riddling your body up the rage you feel against brown-skinned people, or do the temporarily death-delaying drugs you take do it?

Seriously, if the MSM can embargo what it has already, ignoring this bit of news will be a piece of cake. Or they'll find some way to spin it so that McCain becomes the chief adviser to ACORN.

146

136: she wants Obama to win so that she can have some material for her next book deal.

As for Def Leppard, the douchebag doesn't know how to handle the Stanley Cup, so screw him:

http://tinyurl.com/4pclzl

147

Malkin is a case of conservatives not understanding Politics is a team sport, no point in bashing mcCain now, wait till after the independents vote.  Then we can resume mccain hatred.

Libs are much better at team sports, being collectivist and all.

148
RICO is written in credibly broadly, and all sorts of conduct are swept into its ambit, but the easiest way to get in trouble here are the basics.

It is unlawful for:

a person (can be any individual or legal entity capable of holding property (18 USC §1961))

who is associated with or employed by an enterprise (18 USC §1962) (enterprise can be an individual, partnership, corporation, or legal entity; or       enterprise can be union or group of individuals)

to conduct or participate in the affairs of the enterprise (18 USC §1962)

through a pattern (18 USC §1962) ( requires two acts within 10 years of one another  (18 USC §1961))

of racketeering activity  (18 USC §1962)

which is any act indictable under the mail or wire fraud statute (18 USC §1961)(among many many many other possibilities)

and

person devises or intends to devise a scheme to defraud and (18 USC §§1341; 1342)

for the purpose of executing the scheme  (18 USC §§1341; 1342)

uses the mail / wire or causes the same to be used  (18 USC §§1341; 1342)

149

I know this will never get any decent magnification in the MSM as far as Teflon DonObama.  But....and this is a big but....if it can somehow reverse the sleazy, fucked up rigging that ACORN has done in my home state with the massive fraud, and make these bastards crawl out from their respective dumpsters into the bright light of day, I say, HELL YEAH.

I just hope it's the beginning of an avalanche of investigation cross country for these maggots.

150

god bless you Kimberly

151 RICO doesn't have to involve multiple states.

I would think this prosecution would be based on a conspiracy to commit fraud and racketeering.

152 Can we get some Jen Connelly cowbell when the action is actually filed? We haven't seen Jen on the hobby-horse in awhile.

153

Yawn, nothing here move along.

Save the skull for McC getting even in the polls and kicking ass in debate.  

NO ONE but the political junkies even knows what the fuck ACORN is.

Sorry for the cold water.  Walk outside, ask ten people what ACORN is.  

Well, they are very many of them this year in my yard.  The squirrels love them. What has that got to do with the election?  I don't get it, and most don't.

Kemp

 

154 Awesome, awesome, awesome!!!  It's war and it's time to engage the enemy.  McCain just needs to say "I'll be your huckleberry" at the debates and it's on!!

155 Screw dat. If the moderators don't ask the "right" questions, McCain needs to CHANGE the subject, just like Palin did.

You're right, ace, we're not going to take it anymore!!

156 I don't think there's enough room under the bus for ACORN.

Some poor schmuck is about to get painted with the Ken Starr brush.

157 Here is just a (very) partial list of the "racketeering activities" that qualify you for a RICO prosecution.

The ones I think are most likely to form the predicate are:

18 USC 1341 Mail Fraud

18 USC 1343 Wire Fraud

18 USC 1028 Fraud in connection with identification documents

18 USC 1344 Bank Fraud

18 USC 201 Bribery

158

Mr. Obama worked for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now's Project Vote voter-registration campaign in 1992 after graduating from Harvard Law School. He directed a successful voter-registration campaign, credited with electing Carol Moseley-Braun to the U.S. Senate. Primarily targeting African-Americans, Mr. Obama's efforts added an estimated 125,000 voters to the rolls.

http://tinyurl.com/52enw5

"I have been hoping for a seat on the Banking Committee," Senator Moseley Braun said, "so that I can work to generate economic growth and community development that will revitalize the economy of our nation -- particularly rural and urban low-income neighborhoods."

She endorsed President-elect Bill Clinton's plan to establish a network of specially chartered banks to plow money into distressed neighborhoods, and noted that the idea's best-known example is Chicago's own South Shore Bank.

IT is far too early to predict how any of these debates will turn out. Much depends on the Clinton Administration. But consumer and community groups, such as the well-organized Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, are gearing up to use their newfound allies in Congress.

"We believe that the banking industry needs to put its house in order before the Administration seriously considers the industry's demands for product and geographic deregulation," ACORN said last week in a letter to Treasury Secretary-designate Lloyd Bentsen. "We believe that the priorities of any new banking legislation should lie in the areas of increased consumer protection, community lending and assurances that regulatory measures are in place to protect Federal deposit insurance funds and the taxpayers who stand behind those funds."

Experts say that such voices are likely to be heard with sympathy on Capitol Hill.

http://tinyurl.com/4fmjy8

159 NO ONE but the political junkies even knows what the fuck ACORN is.

Even sportscasters are making jokes about ACORN, so I think you're wrong there.

160 Look, every politician in DC that's been interested in getting nine black votes has tried to avoid beating on ACORN's head over the years.   Just like a wagging finger from the Congressional Black Caucus was enough to scare folks away from FNMA/FHMLC reform.

The difference this time is that no one's competing for ACORN-constituent votes, they're all locked up (metaphorically if not physically) and there's no sense in even trying to pander to them.

161 The year was 2006...

The stage was the congressional election...

The overriding theme was Republican SCANDAL.

Can we please start calling this what it is?

Faster, please.

162 ntac: God bless you too :-)

So can we say, Acorn has abused all of the above, guvnah?

I like the fact that their assets will be frozen. Heh.

163 "Awesome, awesome, awesome!!!  It's war and it's time to engage the enemy.  McCain just needs to say "I'll be your huckleberry" at the debates..."

But he won't do that for the reason Michelle Malkin explains.

164 "Wire fraud" includes anything that uses a telephone or the Internet, doesn't it?

165 Posted by: CK MacLeod at October 13, 2008 01:54 PM (8aPVo)

100% agree CK. Unfortunately, I tend to check her site from time to time as she has, on occasion, been known to post useful info. Besides, we need to stay grounded in reality and not get all hopey changey.

Fight on!

166 I just found this ad from 02/21/2008, recruiting canvassers to assist ACORN with a joint GOTV project with the Obama Campaign, on the "Ohio Daily Blog"! This certainly looks like proof that ACORN is actively working hand in hand with the Obama campaign and it appears to dispute their non-partisan claims. Please pass it on.

http://www.ohiodailyblog.com/content/oh ... help-obama


Ohio ACORN Hiring Canvassers To Help Obama
 Submitted by Jeff on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 12:22pm.

An announcement from Ohio ACORN political director Mari Engelhardt:

GOTV for Obama! Ohio ACORN is doing a Get Out The Vote project with the OBAMA Campaign. Ohio ACORN is hiring canvassers to go door to door encouraging voters to vote for Barack Obama.

ACORN is hiring in Cleveland (216)431-3905, Columbus (614)425-9491, Cincinnati (513)221-1737, for Dayton (call Cincinnati), and for Toledo call Cleveland. Or email polnatoh@acorn.org and your inquiry will be routed to the appropriate person in each of these cities. Intake and training will be held daily at local ACORN offices. Canvass begins on Wednesday Feb. 27th and will work through election day. Please, only persons wishing to work all or most of these days (Saturday and Sunday included) should inquire.

Please do not contact the Obama campaign directly regarding this post as they are not the organization doing the hiring and it will only distract their staff and volunteers from the other important work they are doing on behalf of Senator Obama.


From their About page:

About Ohio Daily Blog

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167 He's more likely to refrain from conflict out of bipartisanship.

Doesn't matter. Other people have standing to challenge an illegal election. It's less about the candidate's right to be elected and more about the citizens right to a free and honest election.

168

If Jesus were a community organizer, would he have also perpetrated mail fraud?

169 I think we all should start spelling out what RICO stands for: The Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act.

170 ACORNgate.

That sucks. We need a catchier name. Name contest?

Nutgate? MickeyMouseGate? HousingGate? CreditGate? Treegate?

171

Okay, I didn't know what it stood for, but at least I'll admit I had to look it up, as opposed to you all pretending you knew!!  You are all morons, right?

Teh "Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations" (RICO) Act

Rock on.

172

Dead Career Sketch.

Hope you are right.  I don't watch sportscasters and most women don't either.  Every person in my office doesn't have a clue what ACORN is.  I don't work at the mill, these people are pretty smart.

My point, this is NOTHING.  Go back to work!!

Kemp

 

173
But he won't do that for the reason Michelle Malkin explains.
Posted by: Christoph at October 13, 2008 02:12 PM (hawOV)

You've gotta be fucking kidding me. He appeared at a rally organized by a bunch of weird organizations in Miami, and the Obama-ACORN relationship is off the table?

Look at this ad:

http://www.johnmccain.com/
videolanding/acorn1.
htm?sid=google&tobama
&r=obamaacornvideo

174

Question:

Ugliest 80's Hair Band:

Twisted Sister v. Loverboy

175 So what's the lesson here for McCain?
"Reaching across the aisle" is a recipe for disaster. Your Maverickiness on the crappy immigration bill got you tarred with the libs Acorn brush.

Now. Unload the Freddie /Fannie guns on the libs. Dial it back up. Make the Obama camp go defensive. Name names, point out the CRA factor , lay out the bullet point time line of Democrat complicity. Show that the undermining of the US economy has been a long term project created by stupid leftist fairness policy and NOT an unforseeable event.

Yes they will call you hypocrite. Yes they will call you racist.

Fuck. Them.

Please, sir. Go conservative and win this thing.


 

176 129 Posted by: Christoph at October 13, 2008 01:52 PM (hawOV)

I'm all done over there.....Allah is also basically a cheerleader for Obama.

3 weeks to the election, and they have shown their hands. I hope they like all of their Paulbot and Obama monkey friends. I believe that's about all they will retain after the election.         Wow, I just left a comment in Allahs post about the new Wapo poll about how will be back after the election. Everytime I go there I just want to stay home on the 4th, when I come here I want to go twice.

177 Hey if Obama can throw past associations under the bus and be nothing more than a speed bump, then I think McCain can take his previous ties to ACORN and do the same thing.  On a scale of 1 to 10, McCain's involvement with ACORN would be a one compared to Obama's which I would rate 8+ in light of 800K, previous work and helping train their thugs.

178 "If Jesus were a community organizer, would he have also perpetrated mail fraud?"

Yeah, if Jesus actually existed, probably. As a rule, religious sect leaders are hardly opposed to it it would seem.

179 Dead Career Sketch wrote:    "Wire fraud" includes anything that uses a telephone or the Internet, doesn't it?

Yes.

And the transmissions themselves do not have to be fraudulent.  All you have to do is use these media in furtherance of your scheme to defraud.

180 You got ACORN'ed is a new saying at work (US Navy in Jacksonville, FL).

181 Racketeer-gate.

182 That's like saying Fannie Mae is off the table because he received a few bucks from them as well.  Paying a front group 800 grand for voter registrations links him directly to this mess.  Immigration rally?

Sorry: this is foot massages vs. the holiest of holies.  Michelle can take off.

183

Unless someone's carrying an Obama Monkey, I ain't interested.

 

Unless, of course, the tata-dunking actually happens.  You'll find me then.

184 Ace, copy this GIF.  It might be a good substitute for Flaming Skull on non-economic issues.  (And clickable for the music would be good too.)

185 "That sucks. We need a catchier name. Name contest?"

Make it simple.  Voter fraud.  Talk about it early and often.  This stuff does not play well and has helped me pick up some McCain votes.  This is not about Acorn this is about Voter Fraud.

186 "You've gotta be fucking kidding me. He appeared at a rally organized by a bunch of weird organizations in Miami, and the Obama-ACORN relationship is off the table?"

I'm not saying they're anywhere near substantially equivalent; I'm saying John McCain doesn't want to go near anything that can touch his pristine reputation (in his eyes).

So while I might nail Obama long and hard over this like Ron Jeremy with a young wannabe starlet, John McCain will want to be above the fray.

And in that Michelle Malkin is right.

187 Just completely off topic but why is Biden in NH ?? I thought Obama was up big there?? NOTTTTT!!

188 Kimberly wrote:   So can we say, Acorn has abused all of the above, guvnah?


I don't have time to go through the entire list of elements for each of those predicate crimes, and even if I did, I don't have access to the evidence the prosecutor does. 

I will say that US Attorney's don't fuck around.  They win about 97% of their cases because they don't bring charges unless they know they'll stick.

So... I just hope ACE is right that there is something coming down the pike.

189 OT: West Palm Beach Congressman Tim Mahoney (D-FL), whose predecessor resigned in the wake of a sex scandal, agreed to a $121,000 payment to a former mistress who worked on his staff and was threatening to sue him, according to current and former members of his staff who have been briefed on the settlement, which involved Mahoney and his campaign committee.

LMAO!

190 Enough with the Christian-bashing-baiting, Christoph.

Enough.

191

"Twisted Sister v. Loverboy"

Both Mike Reno and Dee Snider have managed to get even more weird looking as time goes on.

Lemmy, well, he remains the same.

192

Thanks for the tip ACE.

I just posted an article on my site centristnetblog.com and put it up on realclearpolitics.  Please go vote me up!

 

193 I'll believe it when I see it. Crossing my fingers here . . .

194 MOST ETHICAL CONGRESS EVER !!!!!!!!!!

195 Wrong wrong WRONG!  All those songs you say define ball-dipping?  This song dips its balls in all of them:  http://tinyurl.com/54wssd

196 Fox News carried some of the Ohio hearing this morning.  A man testified that ACORN registered him three times at his address and talked him into registering one time at his mothers.  

Absolutely corrupt.

197 I'm pretty sure RICO charges are, inheriently, federal-level investigations.

198 I love Loverboy! Sigh. Music the kids listen to today just doesn't compare to the music I listened to. They actually PLAYED instruments and sang.

199 Kimberly wrote:   So can we say, Acorn has abused all of the above, guvnah?


Also, there's no way to know how many predicate offenses the US Attorney will have in the charging instrument... but he only needs one. So no, I don't think it's safe to say that ACORN has violated all of the predicates I listed... I only listed the 5 or 6 from the RICO list that I thought were most likely to have been violated

200 Kempermax, when I walk outside of my office, I'm guaranteed to run into 10 ACORN workers trying to get my name. Hopefully, now, they won't be there anymore.

201 McCain has had no involvement with ACORN.
The rally was about Immigration reform and was sponsored by many groups, including the local Catholic Diocese.
ACORN was a co-sponsor, which means they piggybacked there way in on it.
McCain speaking there does not in any way make him involved with ACORN.

202

As much as I love the idea of exposing voter fraud, and yes, it is ball dipping good, what could be even more awesomely awesome is an investigation that starts to unravel the funding sources of all this shit.

Yea, Soros, Heinz Foundation, mysterious overseas money, I'm looking at you.

203 Christoph,

You just aren't the brightest bulb on the tree, are you? The existence of Jesus is probably better sourced and referenced than almost any other person in antiquity. You can certainly debate his divinity, but his existence is pretty much as well proven as any other person.

I mean, how do you  think we come to have names in popular culture like, oh, I don't know, Christopher, or even, *gasp*, Christoph.

204 Thanks, Guvnah. I thought that was the case.

Hmm... Fraudgate? Votegate?

205 Every person in my office doesn't have a clue what ACORN is.

They should understand this:

1. They register dead people to vote and vote for them, too.

2. They force banks and lending institutions to make 0% interest down loans to people who can not afford to own a home and who have subsequently defaulted and have created this crisis.

3. They force lending institutions to make similar loans to illegal aliens who also default.

206 Dr. Rem, did you knock them upside the head?

I love that song by Aldo Nova, Sarge!

Absolutely right, Rocks.

207 will say that US Attorney's don't fuck around.  They win about 97% of their cases because they don't bring charges unless they know they'll stick.

So... I just hope ACE is right that there is something coming down the pike.

Posted by: The Guvnah at October 13, 2008 02:25 PM (Rg8DN)

 This is a important point.  This is much like the Michael Vick case.  When they filed, everyone pretty much agreed he was guilty because the US Attorney filed for the indictment only after he knew he had a water tight case.

Should be interesting at least. 

208 Kempermanx, my bad.

209

Ace, don't tease me here.

I have been mega depressed all day.

Please God, please let it be so!

210 I don't know if this was discussed already (the last few weeks has been a blur) --
McCain got his NRA endorsement on October 9th.

The Corner:
"There's a pretty straightforward correlation between NRA endorsements and Republican presidential victories. Since 1980, they endorsed Reagan twice, George H.W. Bush the first time but not the second, and George W. Bush twice."

Regardless of what other issues are hot, this is a perennial biggie.

The endorsement should heavily run as a 527 ad in the last few weeks (assuming it hasn't yet.)

211

#170  Name contest:

How about Operation Nutcracker?

212 "Enough with the Christian-bashing-baiting, Christoph."

I'm just answering the question honestly. U.S. mail and wire fraud lies are really all encompassing. It's very difficult not to violate several related and unrelated U.S. statutes.

One, I believe Jesus probably didn't exist. Two, if he did, he was definitely human, and not a God. Three he'd have almost had to be a God to not violate some use federal statute. I'm sure I've broken several and you have too.

By the way, I haven't "bashed" Christians today. Christians feel that way because they have so much vested in the divinity of Jesus. However, if Christians state they believe Jesus is the Son of God and our Saviour, I don't feel this is a personal attack directed at me. Likewise, if I say I don't believe Jesus existed and if he did, he wasn't Divine, this shouldn't be taken as an attack.

To the degree it is taken as one, it's because of the Christian's belief system, not because of anything untoward I have said.

213 *lies = laws

214 Guvnah, thanks. I suspect ACORN is in big ass trouble. So sad. Too fucking bad.

When I tell people about ACORN, I emphasize VOTER FRAUD. That gets their attention.

215 Operation Bust a Nut.

'Cause that's what I'm going to be doing if it pans out.

216 In honor of fall the MSM should call the ACORN scandal "ACORNucopia".

217 "You just aren't the brightest bulb on the tree, are you? The existence of Jesus is probably better sourced and referenced than almost any other person in antiquity. You can certainly debate his divinity, but his existence is pretty much as well proven as any other person."

By whom?

218 #166.....page gone!

219

uses the mail / wire or causes the same to be used  (18 USC §§1341; 1342)

 

Hmm... isn't the second half of that sentence mighty interesting?

isn't it one of the charactersitics of RICO that conspirators don't need to demonstrate the degree of collusion usually necessary that other conspirators fo to be considered conspirators?

Not lawyer, ming you... just asking.

Where's malor when you need him?

220 Man I miss the eighties, keep it coming Ace!

221 God, I hope this turns into something huge. I am not getting my hopes because obama is the new "teflon don".

222

There's no comparing McCain's "involvement" with ACORN and Barry HO's. Its apples and Thai Tranny Hookers.

ACORN= Red Seed

223 Yay!

224 Yes they will call you hypocrite. Yes they will call you racist.

Fuck. Them.

Please, sir. Go conservative and win this thing.

Posted by: jadedinga at October 13, 2008 02:19 PM (LJnG/)

No possible chance. 

In any case if this happens the US Attorney better have a conviction by January 21, 2009 because when Obama gets sworn among his first acts will be to fire the US Attorney in Ohio and most likely all of the US Attorney's.  The media will be totally silent and when conservatives mention the US Attorney firing witch hunt that the Dems/media ran for the last three years the media will note that the President has the power to hire and fire the US Attorney's at will and will move on.  Yes ladies and gentlemen prepare for 4-8 years of mindnumbing levels of media/Dem hypocrisy.  Poor George is going to be sitting on his ranch in Texas watching Cpt. Bullshit get daily tonguebathes from the Washington DC press corps thinking "WTF".

225 How in the world did a flaming skull thread about ACORN turn into debate about the existence of God?

226 @225 I believe in God.

227 RICO statutes contain both criminal and civil components.  If the RICO statute is applied, that means the nature of the organization is corrupt.  It could also mean that harmed individuals may have legal recourse, whatever that may mean.  I'm not a lawyer, but that's how I recall how it works. 

Can anyone expand on that?

228 Kimberly...no knocking heads, there is a group of them out here every day, I have to run the gauntlet to get to the subway. Sample conversation:


ACORN GUY: You registered to vote?

ME: (Foe the thousandth time) : yes

AG: You sure? Sign up again, you never call tell.

Me: nothanksgottarun

 This after passing a couple of kiosks that sell Obama t-shirts with the most ridiculous images you can think of on there.

The problem is, these things are all run by brown people (and the odd smelly Trustafarian), who would happily kill me and barbecue me on a spit if I so much as looked at them funny.

Of course I exagerrate, but I'm not one to start political arguments on a streetcorner when vastly outnumberd, and I'm a pretty big guy. Philly politics is a poor-man's Chicago....

229

Ace, why not post that speech by McCain this morning? They have the video on his site.

That was the most moving speech i have heard in a long time. I was sniveling by the end of it.

He does not need to go nuclear. That speech is the one to carry the rest of this election. That was a real leader. Speaking of true hope.

230 "Can anyone expand on that?"

If McCain loses Ohio, can a registered Ohio voter sue? That'd be neat.

231

Rocks "McCain has had no involvement with ACORN.
The rally was about Immigration reform and was sponsored by many groups, including the local Catholic Diocese.
ACORN was a co-sponsor, which means they piggybacked there way in on it.
McCain speaking there does not in any way make him involved with ACORN."

You're missing the point I believe.

ACORN is using this to remind conservatives that McCain was the Amnesty guy in the Senate. This is the stuff that drives down turnout and depresses volunteers on the Right. Also, it makes McCain not want to bring it up.

McCain "is not in any way involved with ACORN"... apart from agreeing with ACORN over a matter vital to America's future and sovereignty. Which is what matters to Malkin.

But we don't have to let it bother us.

Which is why I suggest that Palin bring up ACORN's racket, over and over; and when asked about McCain's involvement, Palin should speak along the lines of "I personally would not have attended" and leave it at that. It's not a Republican problem or a Palin problem; it's a McCain problem, and I'm voting not for McCain but for Palin through McCain.

232 So, is this what Ben Smith was sitting on?

233 Seriously Christoph, not today huh?
This thread is already over 200 posts without that junk.

234 #218 - Direct link for the ACORN/Obama article at #166.

http://tinyurl.com/4tlqsp

235 What's up with the music around here? I'm more of an aging Dead Head myself -- stuff like Me and My Uncle, El Paso, Friend of the Devil....

236

First you tell me there's a brewing GF/financial scandal for O! and the US Attorney's office is about to file a RICO case against ACORN.  Bestest birthday presents, ever.

But nothing on the GF thing today and MSM reporting only on local officials investigating ACORN.  Worstest birthday presents, ever.

Damn you, Ace, I want my schaudenfrade today!

237 >>>So, is this what Ben Smith was sitting on?

No.

This has nothing to do with any of the previous stories I was teasing.

238 David,
  I agree but what I meant is the MSM can't really use McCain's attendance at that rally as an effective excuse just to ignore the story.
It's nowhere equal. It didn't work with Wright and it won't work here, IMHO.

239 Some women get to dip their balls too.

Palin is one of them.

240 #236

Perhaps the birthday present will come one day late.

241

OT, but an interesting pattern.

Dow is back over 9000. When the McCain speech was on earlier the market was on the rise. When The One came on not too long after that and started yappin the market started to head down. They put McCain back on and the Dow starts it's upward movement again.

242

Please me nice to Christoph, he lives in Canada, and probably can not use the Internet unless he says he hates Christians.

We wouldn't want him to be written up by the Human Rights Committee.

This act is coming the the USA Jan 20, 2009, unless you morons get to FUCKING WORK!

243 "Seriously Christoph, not today huh?
This thread is already over 200 posts without that junk."

Hey, I'm not calling a discussion of the Jesus history, myth, or Divinity (whichever 1 or 2 of those 3 are true!) "junk".



That said, I didn't bring up the subject nor do I particularly care if it's discussed. But if people are going to bring it up rhetorically to make a point and/or respond to me on it now that it's raised, I will too. Particularly if they're going to say I'm bashing Christians when I'm not (although to them it might feel that way if I don't acknowledge their beliefs as true; when Christians including those I like such as Sarah Palin have different beliefs than mine, I don't take it personally... but, then, I think I already said that).

244 Paulitics, it's Columbus Day (observed). You should observe your birthday one day late to keep everything in sync. :-)

245 "Please me nice to Christoph, he lives in Canada, and probably can not use the Internet unless he says he hates Christians."

See, I know you're saying that largely tongue in cheek, but that's an example of what I mean. I don't hate Christians. Indeed, I love one more than anyone in the world and also more than anyone I've ever known.

Many Christians don't seem to grasp the fact that not being a Christian and -- gasp -- to actually express the contrary viewpoint in public doesn't mean you hate them.

246 Sorry to do this, but Ms. Malkin has a wet blanket too.

Did ACORN register dead people on McCain's behalf? No.

Did ACORN encourage illegal voting on behalf of McCain? No.

Did ACORN pressure lending institutions to make ridiculous loans to people who they knew could not pay it back? No.

All they did is show up at a pro comprehensive immigration rally. Big deal.

247

@David Ross, #231

The following is the partial text I received today from Gov. Palin, on behalf of the campaign:

"The Obama-Biden Democrats and their liberal, allied interest groups are spending more than $1 billion to defeat our ticket in critical races across the country. They're flooding the airwaves and stuffing mailboxes with misleading information, and in some cases flat out lies about us.

The truth is that far-left groups in this country will do anything to help the Obama-Biden Democrats win the White House and maintain their majorities in Congress. And last week, we found out they're going even further to win.

The left-wing activist group, ACORN, is now under investigation for voter registration fraud in a number of battleground states. ACORN's political action committee has endorsed Barack Obama and Senator Obama himself has said, "I have been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career." The Obama Campaign even paid more than $800,000 to an ACORN affiliate for "get out the vote activity." And now we find out that ACORN is suspected of voter registration fraud.

But, the Obama-Biden Democrats would rather sweep these facts under the rug and use their mainstream media allies to bury this story. But we can't let that happen. We can't allow leftist groups like ACORN to steal this election. "

Sounds like, through Palin, the campaign is going to pursue this, and hard.

 

248

What the hell do we women get to dip, dammit?

And why am I kind of afraid of the answer?

Women get to pour it out onto a sheet of plastic, get naked and roll around in it, writhing in ecstasy.  Two or more women can wrestle in it. 

Oh, and don't forget to post the video on youtube.

249

Oh... to answer someone's question... it looks as if the interstate clause requirement is satisfied by the federal nature of the underlying predicate crime.

is this correct?

250 Christoph, Bart has you on this one.  No serious scholar -- no matter his/her personal religious beliefs or unbeliefs -- doubts the existence of the historical Jesus.  Whether one believes in His divinity or not is a different matter. 

251

What's up with the music around here? I'm more of an aging Dead Head myself -- stuff like Me and My Uncle, El Paso, Friend of the Devil....

ahem.....

252 Christoph, if you fucking thread jack one more time, you're out of here.

253 So, Ace, you big tease, are you telling us there is more to come?

:-))))))

254 How about "ACORNgeddon" with a flaming giant acorn entering earth's atmosphere?  On second thought, maybe not because in the other asteroid movie, wasn't the space shuttle that saved the day called "THE MESSIAH"?

255

Women get to pour it out onto a sheet of plastic, get naked and roll around in it, writhing in ecstasy.  Two or more women can wrestle in it. 

Or, as AlextheChick calls it, Thursday.

256

How in the world did a flaming skull thread about ACORN turn into debate about the existence of God?

Because certain parties (who know who they are) couldn't leave the Canadian Concern Troll alone.

257 "That said, I didn't bring up the subject nor do I particularly care if it's discussed."

Bullshit, Christoph.  You brought it up in post #23.  Nice try.

Qwinn

258 Democrat who replaced Mark Foley paid off Mistress with $121K. I sure am glad Granny Rictus Botoxia cleaned up the Culture of Corruption.

259 Just the idea of the One's campaign staff in Chicago running around shedding documents and screaming OMG,OMG,OMG brings a tear to my eye.

260 Could you play Blondie's Call Me?

dunno, but it seems kinda like a fit? Obama in bed with ACORN?

261 There's a post at Free Republic that says this has been debunked.

Say it ain't so!

262

Hey, a re-post of the three-headed magic bullet post would be nice.  Like a cherry on top of a sundae.

263 Ace, because you're in touch with the McC campaign, can you find out if they plan to hit O! on his unconscionable Born Alive Infanct Protection Act votes/actions?  The man supports infanticide.  Isn't that a battle worth fighting for?

264 259 Just the idea of the One's campaign staff in Chicago running around shedding documents and screaming OMG,OMG,OMG brings a tear to my eye.
Posted by: A. Weasel at October 13, 2008 02:56 PM (bqcfE)

hahahahahahahha and a cramp to my side

Ace, was posting the silly girlfriend thing a false flag? If so, BRAVO.

265 "Christoph, if you fucking thread jack one more time, you're out of here."

That's fine, Ace.

But it has nothing to do with my "thread jacking". When I posted an off topic comment about Canada's election and it being against the law here to cover it in real time earlier today, no one said anything, and when I brought up Ed Morrissey's excellent article about British generalship vs. American generalship (with America coming out on top), no one said anything...

... but when I responded to someone's rhetorical point using Jesus as a moral example re: community organizing, then you and your commenters -- because Christianity is the de riger conservative default position -- have a bird.

While I'm going out of my way to point out I don't have a problem with Christians, but will respond to comments using Jesus as a moral example with the contrary possibility.

So this has nothing to do with "thread jacking" and everything to do with the actual opinion I'm expressing.

266 Correction:

Did ACORN pressure lending institutions to make ridiculous loans to people who they knew could not pay it back at McCain's urging? No.

267 shedding=shredding ..._shit

Oh and Ace, thank you for everything you do.
How does it feel to be the King of the Internet?

268 Dr. Rem, I couldn't stand it. I'd have to smack a few of them, myself. Or before they ask, "get in their face" and shout NO.

269 Dave: I hope you don't mind. I did a Biden over at Malkin's site and posted your post. :-)

270

Actually, I always preferred this Billy Squire Song. 

271 "Posted by: Qwinn at October 13, 2008 02:56 PM (3FVXC)"

You're overlooking that I was responding to post #21. Post #21 presumed a factual basis which is in dispute. I presented the alternative view.

272 Shit. Now I have to back and post your correction. LOL.

273 #218 re:
 GOTV for Obama! Ohio ACORN is doing a Get Out The Vote project with the OBAMA Campaign. Ohio ACORN is hiring canvassers to go door to door encouraging voters to vote for Barak Obama.

Here is the cache of that page:
http://tinyurl.com/4b9mz5

274

Christoph... know the First Rule of Holes?

When you find yourself in one, stop digging.

I'm just saying.

275 Kim: Sorry, kim. Feel free to do anything with what I post if it helps.

276 Obama may need a 1/2 hour in prime time to explain this to the voters, especially if he get called before a grand jury.

277 Great news, and congratulations for breaking it first, Ace. When Gutfeld makes you a regular, remember--we knew you when.

278

David: "Ugliest 80's Hair Band: Twisted Sister v. Loverboy"

Daily distraction which actually kinda has something to do with Team Obama's politics to follow:

I went to a Ratt concert some moons ago and Twisted Sister was one of the warm-up bands. During the show, a "heckler" from the front row on the lower deck started razzing Dee Snider and the band. With a bajillion watts of sound energy and the concomitant ringing of ears between the songs, who could say what the ruckus was about? Didn't matter. Snider went on an extended "rant" to the chorus of cheers from possibly drug-addled if not slightly inebriated malcontents (present company naturally excepted). And the show went on.

So, Team Snider had astroturfed to add flavor, excitement, and a story to their performance. If I recall correctly, it was SOP for that particular leg of their tour (so I was told by an industry insider who dealt with this stuff and who provided me with the ticket) to create buzz and attitude. I thought their music was pretty awful, but the act did get people's attention. They ended up headlining their own tour not too long afterward.

So, this little trip down memory lane reminds me of Team Obama and Axelrod astroturfing. Their politics suck but they have a nice little scheme going to create an atmosphere among the masses who look for every opportunity to side with their lead even if the show is a bit rough or stale. The stunt caused a (positive) bump in attention that apparently lasted longer than the show itself.

As to the bad hair day decade... Twisted Sister wins, hands down. Man they were a sight. They put Ratt to shame which was quite a feat.

279 Not to be a cynic, but does anyone truly believe that this will change anyone's mind on Balack Osama?  I'll be surprised if the MSM gives it any coverage at all.  Sorry to be so pessimistic but this election process has taught me to expect the worst!  I'd love to see Obama go down in flames!

Angry White Dude

www.angrywhitedude.com
--um, don't go there. TB.

280 What are we getting excited about? ACORN is just an organization in Obama's neighborhood. Just a buch of Kooky Kids he socialized...ummmm... educated way back when, before the selective amnesia kicked in. And hey! Look over here! McCain is secretly a KKK wizard, inciting hate wherever he goes. What about those "Palin is a C*NT" tee's, huh? How about that that left wing love-fest!

281 Ace, you are such a bipolar goof.  Down in the deeps, the up to teh mountain in what, 2 days?

And lols on the Dee Snyder, dude couldn't drag a sack of potatoes down the stairs.  What teh fuck were 80's bands thinking?

282 Lemmy is god

283 ACORN RICO rumors = two GIANT balls dipped.

284 Christoph...seriously. Comment on the story or Shut up. No one's disputing that.

285 276 Obama may need a 1/2 hour in prime time to explain this to the voters, especially if he get called before a grand jury.
Posted by: toby928 at October 13, 2008 03:05 PM (evdj2)

Oh. Well, it could explain why a guy who really believed he was up by 10-15 in the polls and on the way to 350 EV would make such an expensive prime time buy.

And why he would go all Malcolm X in Philly. And why people were seeing tons of Barry ads during football games yesterday in NYC.

Why on earth would a guy with no problems do that stuff?

286

Christoph, @#265: but when I responded to someone's rhetorical point using Jesus as a moral example re: community organizing, then you and your commenters -- because Christianity is the de riger conservative default position -- have a bird.

While I'm going out of my way to point out I don't have a problem with Christians, but will respond to comments using Jesus as a moral example with the contrary possibility.

How about next time . . . don't?  Maybe?  I'm pretty sure the world will continue spinning if you don't turn every mention of Jesus Christ into a debate on the existence of Jesus Christ.

But threadjacking leads to derailed threads, angry commenters, and the mighty clunk of Ace's banhammer.  If you want converts to your opinion, try not spamming it everywhere.

287 I didn't see the debunk for free republic. link?

288 on, not, for ... typing ... too ... fast ...

289 Ace has me clicking refresh like a striped assed ape on crack after a huge meal of crunchy, stepped-on figs.

290

Great news & Great tunes!

291 I know GnR were a good band, but they have to be in the running for ugliest ...

292 And why people were seeing tons of Barry ads during football games yesterday in NYC.

Why on earth would a guy with no problems do that stuff?

Could be that the game was on in NE Pa??. I don't know for sure just guessing

293

Moronizer, bi-polars don't cycle that fast.  Crack a book.

 

294 285--Maybe he's just trying to run up the score.  He apparently has plenty of money.

295 Jeez, I love the smell of Repug desperation in the morning.... smells like...like...my daddy's butt.

Wait, no. I like that smell.

Well, it smells like something bad.

296

How could this not turn into a NATIONAL investigation?

Am I supposed to believe that ACORN just happens to commit vote fraud in every state they're in, and that this vote fraud just coincidentally happens to favor Obama in each and every instance?

No, I'm certain there is NO interstate coordination of this fraud going on....

Nope. None at all....

Mmmm-hmmm.

God help us. This nation is beginning to look like Venezuela.

297

No link?  "Exclusive?"  Someone reliable?

You muckraking, lying, scumbag trash.

298 How did this devolve into a conversation about Jesus? Unless he's the guy prosecuting the RICO case, it's not relevant. I just want to know if the group Obama paid 180K to for a GOTV effort is really, legally connected to ACORN, and did they use those funds in the illegal activities?

299 Don't you think that it's a good idea to wait until the thing actually occurs before celebrating?

300 And here come the left wing trolls right on cue!

301 Eric Erickson of Redstate just posted this storyhttp://tinyurl.com/4246z3

302 Christoph...seriously. Comment on the story or Shut up. No one's disputing that.

Posted by: Rocks at October 13, 2008 03:10 PM (Q1lie)

Okay, I will comment on the post.

The post kind of sucked, actually.

I overlooked the suckiness of the actual post and writing because the news is good. One hopes it's helpful to McCain's campaign.

But aside from the fact that it's completely unsourced and if it's going to happen tomorrow I don't know what advantage there is in posting it now other than to prove Ace is "in the know", there's also the usual jump the gun and correct it later philosophy without knowing whether it's state ACORN or federal ACORN, and I'm sure that Ace doesn't know what he doesn't know.

It was a rush job.

Maybe that's why so many AoSHQ posts are withdrawn after being published, and edited multiple times, often without any statement in the post that they've been updated.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

I've often said Ace's actual political analysis is excellent and if he could write without saying the word "fucking", referring to titties, or perhaps even shave daily he could have one hell of a career for a much more impactfuling organization.

303 295 Jeez, I love the smell of Repug desperation in the morning.... smells like, VICTORY.

NO NUMBNUTS YOU'RE SMELLING YOUR OWN DEFECATION!!!!

304 Posted by: JackStraw at October 13, 2008 02:51 PM (VBon

How about He's Gone, seems kinda' apropos: Rat in a drain ditch...

305 LOL!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sr4wcVSLMs&e

How do you embed the linky again?

306

"Am I supposed to believe that ACORN just happens to commit vote fraud in every state they're in, and that this vote fraud just coincidentally happens to favor Obama in each and every instance?"

There has been no voter fraud, dumbass.  Registration forms that were questionable were separated and tagged as such.  they couldn't be disgarded, because they're legal documents.

None of the erroneous registration forms have resulted in anyone voting who was not legally eligible to.

Lying right wing scumbags, who believe everything they're fed, and don't bother with facts or reality.

307 Jeez, I love the smell of Repug desperation in the morning.... smells like, VICTORY.

Posted by: Jason Albright at October 13, 2008 03:17 PM (jQ1M/)

_dumbass

308 Jesus, Christoph, go hump a fucking moose and suck a mounty's flannel cock with your gay shit.

309 Holy Shit, ace, was #301, the story you were teasing about????

310 Korry, there are even youtube vids on the topic.  ACORN employees.  Remove your blinders. 

311 Email from Obama today:

"We need to grow this movement by 100,000 new donors before Friday." (so I can pay for my 30 minute blather or my lawyers once the US attorney crawls up my ass or ...)

Ahhh, the smell of desperation is in the air.

312

Posted by: Christoph at October 13, 2008 03:01 PM (hawOV)

You're overlooking that I was responding to post #21. Post #21 presumed a factual basis which is in dispute. I presented the alternative view.

Hey dickhead, Bart was goofing on the anti-Palin meme passed around weeks ago by Obama surrogates (Jesus - community organizer, Pilate - governor). His post had nothing to do with the Christian faith. You chose to jump in not once, but twice, to Christian-bait. There are plenty of atheists and agnostics on this site who choose not to bait the religious in general or Christians in particular. For that matter, there are believers of many different faiths who don't bait others. And yet, you seem incapable of some common fucking courtesy and when called on it you try to play it off as, "He started it!"

At least be man enough to admit what you were doing and then follow Ace's directive to cease and desist. It's not the first time he's asked.

313

I posted this up on Daily Ko's, they're going nutS!

Poll

Will ACORNgate stop McCain's freefall in popularity?

No 83% 333 votes Yes 16% 68 votes

 

314

Christoph,

Posts are pulled by and large because of unacceptable comments and threadjacking.  Nothing of which has to do with the veracity of the posts themselves.

I wish WP was around today to play with Christoph's head.  I'd pay good money to see that.

315 There has been no voter fraud, dumbass.

Yes, that's why all these DAs, AGs, and US Attorneys are investigating. Because there was no fraud.

Dumbass.

316 http://tinyurl.com/4ukocb

Like that kimberly

317

Holy Shit, ace, was [redacted] 01, the story you were teasing about????

AYFKM?

WOW.

No way it's true; we're not that lucky. Anf the fact that it's redstate is a little disconcerting.

Anyhoo, where there's life, there's hope.

 

318 There are no Americans at the airport!

319 I'm not a troll. I want Obama to be stopped more than I can say without being arrested.

320 geoff: you crack me up, dude! Hey, 16% took their blinders off. There's hope yet.

321 Leftwing "logic": None of the erroneous registration forms have resulted in anyone voting who was not legally eligible to.

 Do you know the meaning of the fucking word "YET"?!?!?!?!?!?  Like, you know, they would have magically turned into Obama votes had no one investigated anything? Hmmm? I suppose they would have gone for McCain...LOL!

 And you're missing the quotation marks around the word "erroneous".

322 Wow, that's a pretty disturbing story about Obama and his mentor, Frank Davis.

I hope Davis' sexual weirdness was kept to himself and not shared with Obama. I don't like Obama; his positions on abortion and infanticide are enough to cement that.

However, naturally I hope he wasn't sexually abused or exploited when younger. Christians and non-Christians (this is an attempt at unity, not division) can agree on that I trust.

Davis sounds sickening. In the Enquirer article I read, which presented sparse facts, I didn't see anything I'd hold against Obama.

323 I doubt #301 is the story Ace was referring to yesterday, because there's no indication of a financial scandal.

324 PArep ... yeah, like that ... so how do you do it? I'm on a mac if that makes a difference.

325 Notice how RedState isn't pushing the Enquirer story.  No, you didn't?  Okay, whatever.

326 Paulitics #263, How's this?

327 kimberly - Safari doesn't show the whole toolbar in the comments window. If you use Firefox, you see all kinds of nifty tools, including those to make links.

328

Lord Humungous at October 13, 2008 03:26 PM (sXLx/)

Frickin' sockpuppet.

Re: the post from RedState. I hope it's not true (that the Enquirer is planning to run this story) because it has no place in any election or in the public eye for that matter. I despise Obama's politics but this story has zero value and it disgusts me.

329 Conspiracy to commit fraud is every bit as much of a crime as actually committing fraud. You don't have to murder someone before you can be charged with conspiracy to commit murder. Besides conspiracy to commit voter fraud there is definitely voter registration fraud here which is a crime.
There is also just outright fraud. If contributions are solicited for voter registration and they also push Obama while registering that is fraud. Those monies would have to stay strictly separate.

330 Hyperlink in the toolbar above     ^ right there

331 ACORN is completely innocent of ever doing anything bad, period. This is just a John McCain conspiracy to steal Obamarama's inexorable Mandate for Social Justic and Global Poverty Relief.

I know it's true, because HuffPo told me so.

332 I'll switch to firefox and check it out.

Geoff: Send the link to your poll so we can all vote!!! Heh.

333

#306.

I'm unabashedly liberal, 'korry', but American first.  Do a google on my name...and tell me that I planted pure liberal blog posts as far back as 2004...as a trick.

The fact that you dimwitted uhbamabushbots can't seem to comprehend that a large portion of Hillary dems reject uhbama's racebaiting, chicago style ways will be the downfall of your witless selves.

I'm a HillaryDem who voted for Mccain/Palin Sept 30th in Ohio.

I was right about bush, and I'm RIGHT ABOUT UHBAMA!!

334

NM,

Good, but it still doesn't hit him on infanticide, which is indefensible and repulsive even to the the pro-abortion folks I know.  Thanks for the link, though.

335 Kimberly
This was the third response to the Free Republic post linking to the Patriot Room.

To: Bill Dupray

DEBUNKED ten times already.

3 posted on Monday, October 13, 2008 2:26:25 PM by jessduntno (Good Grief.)

I'm not good at adding links.  Too lazy to figure it out.

336 "...the post from RedState. I hope it's not true (that the Enquirer is planning to run this story) because it has no place in any election or in the public eye for that matter. I despise Obama's politics but this story has zero value and it disgusts me."

I agree with that. The only exception would be if Obama participated in anything along those lines where he was the older person, and I don't see the slightest hint of that even in that article.

337 Real honest-to-God cowbell shit here: DOW UP 741 RIGHT NOW

338 I'm more worried about the screwing Davis and the rest of Obama's mentors gave his mind than the Enquirer-slim possibility that other body parts were abused.

339

There has been no voter fraud, dumbass.  Registration forms that were questionable were separated and tagged as such.  they couldn't be disgarded, because they're legal documents.

None of the erroneous registration forms have resulted in anyone voting who was not legally eligible to.

Lying right wing scumbags, who believe everything they're fed, and don't bother with facts or reality.

Posted by: Korry at October 13, 2008 03:21 PM (5KaLl)

 

Linda Kay Hill, a homemaker and Louisiana native, died Aug. 2, 2006, of a heart attack, her husband recalled, and is buried at Houston Memorial Gardens in Pearland. But Harris County voter records indicate she –- or someone using her identity –- cast a ballot in the November election that year. Linda Hill of Woodwick Street voted in person on Election Day, records show.

http://tinyurl.com/5xeg2x

Back to DU, dummy.

340 Partial, Tentative Walk-Back: The "US Attorney" part has been deleted from the headline. Not bait and switch; just can't stand by that at the moment.

Well, knock me over with a feather.

341 All I can say is- Ace, you better be right.

342 It was only a matter of time before people were actually DEFENDING voter fraud.

You know you're a Obamabot when you're defending voter fraud.

343 Wait -- did a religious war start and I miss it?


....aw, fuck it.

Anyway, as an actual non-concerned American Catholic, I don't give a damn as to what Christoph has to say. Must burn his buns to be named after the Christ-carrier (who didn't exist, I'll give you that - but tell that to the little old ladies with the St. Christopher's medals in their Cadillacs). I will admit we Catholics can be pretty damn smug, it comes with the territory. For one, we've got a Pope, which it doesn't seem that anything else above cult size has, so there's an actual teaching of our Church as opposed to contradictory proclamations that one gets within other churches and faiths. Yeah, we're pretty insufferable when it comes to talking about having a coherent doctrine and actual final authority on said doctrine.

Anyway, I'll say a Hail Mary for my fellow morons, this being a Marian month and all. Enjoy.

344

How about He's Gone, seems kinda' apropos: Rat in a drain ditch...

Not bad.  Maybe Candy Man or Dire Wolf 600 pounds of sin...

 

You do realize that you and I are the only ones who know what we are talking about? 

345

OT -- but we could all use a happy story right now.  A Texas high school has voted a Down's Syndrome classmate to be homecoming queen.

http://tiny.cc/NEHMa

346 http://www.ricoact.com/

 this is great news ace...thanks.

347 I'm sorry, I'm way lagged compared to the rest of you. Just ignore me.

I'll still say Hail Marys for y'all, though.

348 None of the erroneous registration forms have resulted in anyone voting who was not legally eligible to.

They're not erroneous -- they're fraudulent registration forms. Why do you lie?

349 ....because Mary kicks ass, and we need all the help we can get.

350 See heartbreaking update.

351 That is a fantastic story, bluejade.

And without first scrolling up to see said heartbreaking update, let's say that I fully expect to be disappointed, but not surprised.

352 This from Jake Tapper.



That's not what lots of smart folks in the Obama campaign think. They believe Obama's poll numbers are artificially high, McCain's are artificially low, this race will come down to two or three points, and anything could happen.

353 Well, I'm going to use my imagination and dip my balls anyway.

354 "That's not what lots of smart folks in the Obama campaign think. They believe Obama's poll numbers are artificially high, McCain's are artificially low, this race will come down to two or three points, and anything could happen."

Even if they're wrong -- even if they know they're wrong -- it still proves they're the smart people in the campaign. It's the only belief system that leads them to take the correct action, which is working their asses off and taking nothing for granted.

355 God damn, what the fuck do you have to do to get in trouble these days???  Be a white Republican seems to be the only requirement.

356

Ace, check out that GIF at #184.  Downsized and w/ clickable music.  Might be cool. 

357 None of the erroneous registration forms have resulted in anyone voting who was not legally eligible to.

...yet.

358 Ahhhhhh, big bummer.  Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.  ACORN and Obama's connection to the fraudulent org is still a huge issue in this election cycle.  HUGE. 

359 ace...did you really just say *heartbreak*?
 tell me you are kidding, right?

360 Lucy you bitch!

 How many times are you going to pull this shit?  How many times am I going to fall for it?

361

Come on Christoph.  Stick to your guns. Next time someone mentions Jesus or Christianity don't let them slide.  You're on the right side of this issue.  Look forward to your next take down of these clowns.

362 On second thought, I was never a community organizer.

363 I am ... nonplussed

364 Sean Hannity just teased this.

365 Nevertheless, the charges are REAL AND ACCURATE and all US Attorneys should be filing charges against ACORN.

366 I'm getting a little tired of this cap...Are you just playing games to boost your traffic?

367 Ace removes Obama sticker and hands stuffed monkey to unsuspecting child.

What is it that we are suppose to do, again?

(not defending Monkey guy, but you know, seriously, what's up with this shit?)

368

Dow up 947...950...953...958...ended at 965 with the bell.

369 When are the feds going to get involved? If massive voter fraud doesn't make for a civil rights case I don't know what does.

370 This sucks grand wazooo. Game over man, game over.

371 Does this mean no more cowbell?

Aww, shucks.

372 RICO is a federal statute, if I'm not mistaken, so it should be US Attorney.

373 Can I have a towel to dry my balls off please?

374 Now I'm going to have to slaughter two hobos and a puppy just to feel better.

375 HOLY SHIT: DOW CLOSES UP 962

376 Balls ... undipped

377 Why, yes American policeman dickie old chum, zees to appear to be plans of our Running-Dog NATO communications facility at Landstuhl! But it is not unlawful to possess these things, nyet?

378

373

Use Christoph's face.

379 OH FUUUUUU***************K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

380 I just saw this in Washington Post
ACORN Voting Drives Come Under ScrutinyState and federal investigators are questioning the validity of some voting drives performed by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, the group whose registration tactics are largely aimed at low-income citizens.

381 "Come on Christoph.  Stick to your guns. Next time someone mentions Jesus or Christianity don't let them slide.  You're on the right side of this issue.  Look forward to your next take down of these clowns."

I'm not trying to take down Christianity per se. If you looked at my posts on this thread in order you'll see most of mine were either related to this topic, or to other topics within the current political environment. Those that veered off into a discussion of Christianity were, with one exception re: Michelle Malkin and there it was more a reflection on her personality than the actual Catholic faith, were very mildly worded.

My mood when writing them was mostly humour and a bit of chagrin.

Again, when other people bring up Christianity or Jesus or whatever as if it's relevant (and to the degree Christianity is a belief system outlining right and wrong actions it is relevant), then I may weave a response to those into my comments.

Whereupon everyone goes apeshit and accuses me of being hateful.

382 DOW up 950!!!!

383

This isnt a problem that can be solved by lawsuits (The dems will just drag this out while Obama sits in the White House.)

 

The GOP need to badly to reform and rethink how it does elections.

384

Nuts!  Gotta go get a bottle of Val-u-rite Vodka (family sized) and drown my dissapointment.

385 INCITEmarsh, VERY few things warrant the use of the css blink property, but that might be one of them.

Is that the largest DOW point gain in history? Off the top of my head I can't remember a bigger one.

Oh -- sorry for threadjacking in response to his comment on the Dow.

386

Christoph,

Have another donut.

387

Oh -- sorry for threadjacking in response to his comment on the Dow.

Good one Christoph. More of the same. You keep these threads interesting.

388

Christoph, @#385: INCITEmarsh, VERY few things warrant the use of the css blink property, but that might be one of them.

Is that the largest DOW point gain in history? Off the top of my head I can't remember a bigger one.

Oh -- sorry for threadjacking in response to his comment on the Dow.

Well, there's no more thread to jack, evidently, so who cares.  It's easily the biggest point gain in history and it's gotta be the biggest percentage gain since at least the '87 crash, if ever.

And heh on the CSS blink.  It's not showing up for me, so I didn't think it was working.  Sorry about that.

389

Christoph,

Have another donut.

Posted by: Paulitics at October 13, 2008 04:10 PM (iYguc)

You know, that's the one fast food I never really liked.

390 I'm getting a little tired of this cap...Are you just playing games to boost your traffic?

This site doesn't need to boost its traffic.

391 Oh -- sorry for threadjacking in response to his comment on the Dow.

Posted by: Christoph at October 13, 2008 04:08 PM (hawOV)

Go fuck yourself you smug glib little shit.  I would say that you should know better but that's obviously not the case.

392 Let's not lose sight of the big picture concerning this story:  Whether this is coming from the US Attorney or state officials, it's still great news.

393 If this comes off, it's hardly the best-kept secret. There were rumblings all weekend. Tomorrow could bring good news.

394

"17 things you should know before voting for Barack Obama"

Please check them out here.

395 This is not the indictment I thought I knew.

396 OK, you guys are in L48 so you have a better view than I do, but it seems to me like the shite is popping up everywhere; how can Americans not see it?

And all this stuff The Messiah is saying about giving ACORN so much power ("help shape policy" was it?) after he is elected, surely people have to be able to add 2 + 2 without a calculator.

Please please please please x 10000000000000000 let it be nationwide, let it be way true that they don't go after people unless they're sure and dammit let McCain hammer it in on debate night!

Oh yeah:

Lying right wing scumbags, who believe everything they're fed, and don't bother with facts or reality.

Posted by: Korry at October 13, 2008 03:21 PM (5KaLl)

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Oh, you mean like the people who believed in the fake-o Palin transcripts? Or that a couple of morons at McCain/Palin rallies statistically outnumber the slashed tires, graffiti'd cars, broken windows, screaming lunatics, and Bernhardt rages endured by their supporters? Or that she was  member of the AIP? That she bans books, thinks dinosaurs roamed the earth when our parents were babies, *yawns* cut special ed funding &tc. blah blah blee. I could go on about the lack of critical or independent thinking skills apparant in leftists, but I have to be somewhere in 24 hours.

By the way, do you know how to use a computer's search function or have you only mastered the troll option?

397 Please disregard dave's comment of October 13, 2008 04:12 PM. That is not the post you're looking for. Move along... well, past that post, but come back soon IYKWIMAITYD.

398 Ace: You really are an asshole.

399 >>>RICO is a federal statute, if I'm not mistaken, so it should be US Attorney.

Nope.  There is a provision for third-party causes of action.

Winston,

No, I'm not doing it to boost traffic.  You know the shit i'm going to have to eat for a year over this?  And the fact that I got everyone's hopes up and then shattered them? And the fact this puts huge doubts on every other tip I post?

You think that a one day spike in traffic is worth that kind of downside?

No, it's not.   traffic's great today for a holiday, but I get paid by quarter, not for one day.

I'm as disappointed as you are -- more, actually, because i'm the asshole who printed a story that is almost certainly wrong as written.  There is no upside for my 'doing this crap." 

Any goose in traffic for a WRONG story is more than made up for by losses in traffic due to it.

400 This news ought to get you ROCK HARD again

The highly accurate IBD/TIPP poll has started today with its daily tracking of likely voters. Just off the press: Obama 45; McCain 43; and 13 percent unsure. The poll of 825 likely voters has an error margin of +/- 3.5 percentage points. Also, McCain has a 48-41 lead among investors with 10 percent not sure. All this is good news for McCain.

Larry Kudlow

401 So, we're back to NV? That was state cops that busted the ACORN office here last week.

But RICO can be just in one state? I guess I could see NV having its own RICO because of the mob involvement in the casinos?

402 Ace--

I don't get the correction. Who else can bring a RICO indictment except a U.S. Attorney? It's not going to be brought by the AG of Ohio, that's for sure. It's a federal law, and ACORN is operating across state lines. That makes it a Justice Dept. matter. Why the walkback? This is still hot. Put the damn skull back up!

403

Question why is everyone only focused on ACORN ?

 

There are dozens of groups like this out there working for the dems.

404 >>>Who else can bring a RICO indictment except a U.S. Attorney?

The statute provides for third parties to file a civil RICO action.

405 Dude, when this comes down tomorrow you better have the nuclear explosion flaming skull gif up. And Cheescake.

406 Ace, you probably won't see this, but I just wanted you to know that I appreciate your efforts. You've done more for the GOP team than, well, me, but more than most folks who are not official insiders will ever do. If this pans out, great. If it doesn't, you still did what "real" journalists used to do - research, verify, get the facts out, and most importantly, retract the story if it turns out you were wrong. You have the morals and ethics the best journalists used to have, and may have again the other side of Armageddon.

407 And the fact that I got everyone's hopes up and then shattered them?

Actually, my hopes aren't shattered. It was fun and I had a good day. Thanks!

408 >>>RICO is a federal statute, if I'm not mistaken, so it should be US Attorney.

Nope.  There is a provision for third-party causes of action.
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RICO is indeed a federal statute (RICO is codified as Chapter 96 of Title 18 of the United States Code, 18 U.S.C. § 1961–1968.) so it can ONLY be brought by a US Attorney, no?

409 I just heard on FOX that the investigation in Ohio will be done by...are you ready for this?
 The Sheriff's office.....

That doesn't sound so good.....hope I'm wrong

 And Ace....you did the best you could with what you knew..no one expects you to actually have a crystal ball, don't be so hard on yourself.

410

Uhhhm....one ball hair dipped?

411 Ace,

You write entertaining prose, you have good political instincts and insight, and you allow a more free-wheeling discussion than most bloggers. All of these are excellent. You're right on most issues.

No, I'm not doing it to boost traffic."

For the record, I believe you, but I stand by my comment #302 given before your pullback that your research is too often sloppy, you don't always consider the reliability of your source and/or gain a complete understanding of what your source is trying to communicate prior to posting, and you frequently correct your posts without providing anything like accountable updates.

Patterico would be a good model in that regard. I've seen posts of his where he attacks liberal bloggers for their corrections without clear explanation (you often add to your posts, subtract from your posts, change headlines, etc.), but I guess lib bloggers aren't as organized to do that to you.

"You know the shit i'm going to have to eat for a year over this?  And the fact that I got everyone's hopes up and then shattered them? And the fact this puts huge doubts on every other tip I post?"

If they were, they'd nail you for it far harder than I/we.

412 Dewd, that sucks. I have no credibility anyomre...daily kos guys are ridiculing me now

413 In other news- Obama on wealth redistribution, plus a longer video containing the same clip.

414 you guys know this site doesn't even rely on tips and breaking stories for traffic, right?

It's just a weird thing, since saturday or sunday I've had three people calling me to feed me stuff, the gf thing, the Ayers-Obama connection thing, and now this.

i really wanted this one to be right. it occurred to me the guy could be wrong -- anyeone could be -- but he's a solid source.  he just had it wrong himsef.

lmg, I wouldn't say that, but I appreciate  it.

I fucked up.  the thing is, I had two options, run with a hot story from a fairly solid source, nor not run it.  I guess what I should have done is put in "TIP:" in the headline, or a question mark.

but at the time it didn't seem like a tip or a question-mark thing, it seemed, well, solid.

415 lmg at October 13, 2008 04:33 PM (A/vgC)

+10

You are still doing more than anyone else I read now-a-days. Shit happens and it always will.
Thanks for the hard work.

416 Christoph - Are you the same Canadian Christoph who got banned over at Patterico's?  The dickish personality seems similar.

417

Major story or minor story, it won't matter.  The media will bury it.  The liberals won't credit it.  The Democrats will claim it's racist.

 

418 "Christoph - Are you the same Canadian Christoph who got banned over at Patterico's?"

Yes.

419 Ah, a civil RICO case, now I understand what you mean.

420

With a little luck the boys in NV will match up some shit with the boys in Ohio and  some of the other states.

 

 

421

angler 247, excellent news.

At the risk of provoking Awesome Happy Fun Guy!, is there any way Malkin etc can produce slightly less damaging spins on McCain's problems with the base? I agree that it's important for us to keep abreast of bad news which the nutroots already know. But an "(unfortunately McCain did in 2006 ...)" parenthesis could be tucked into a story about ACORN's anti-Americanism, without it becoming the lede. Over. And. Over. Again.

As for this story... uh... yeah. I'm just glad I used this thread to burble about a tangential issue. We should've learnt from Kos that essential law of American politics, "Fitzmas Never Comes".

422 my whole high-school dating career, relived....

you pri*ck-tease!  a big woody with no place to go...

maybe wait until you mean it next time - bitch...!

(OK, i like your blog even though you don't "put out", i guess.)

423 Rats!  I'm more disappointed than Andrew Sullivan attending his first corn hole tournament...

424

"Question why is everyone only focused on ACORN ?

 

There are dozens of groups like this out there working for the dems."

Cause nobody's heard of the hateful secessionist racists that run LA RAZA.

425 Why do you tease me Ace?

426 hey brad, wherever you are...don't try to read ace's post @ 414, you won't be able to.... remember?
couldn't resist....heh.

427 Getting banned from Patterico is a badge of honour. Patterico is "Awesome Happy Fun Guy!" when it comes to police abuse and brutality.

428

From my vague memory of the subject, there just has to be a systematic pattern of law breaking in order to invoke RICO.

BTW, after scanning the latest comments, some need to consider Ace has the guts to admit error--or potential error.

That's more guts than most in the media, alternative or otherwise.

Except MoDo, of course.

Here's another cool song: Long Cool Woman In a Black Dress.  That and Long Tall Sally  (skip to 0:50) make me think of the candidate for tough guys everytwhere, Sarah Palin.

429 HA! HA! The blogger got it wrong.

You see with layers of fact checking editors nothing like this could ever happen to us.

430 "is there any way Malkin etc can produce slightly less damaging spins on McCain's problems with the base?"

How damaging is Michelle Malkin expressing her opinion on McCain, really, David Ross?

I don't think undecided voters frequent her blog. Also, Ace was referring to McCain's "betrayal" on third party reports he's decided to go down to an "honorable" defeat rather than fight.

I guess Malkin could depress the conservative turnout. Is that what you're thinking or am I missing your point?

I agree that the base is too fickle. It's centrist war hero vs. well, far-left Barack Obama. It should be no contest.

To a conservative a centrist is annoying, but really, compared to the most liberal member of the U.S. Senate who was friends with Wright, Ayers, Rezko?

431 david ross...if you are waiting for malkin to stop slamming McCain...don't hold your breath.
 it seems like it's her thing permanently.

432 +1 to lmg post above.

Keep up the good work, besides, if you really wanted to boost your traffic, you know how. 

Lesbian P0RN.

433 'I guess Malkin could depress the conservative turnout"
 look, i enjoy reading malkin but the bottom line is she could depress a down syndrome kid at his own birthday party....just a fact.
 she's the biggest buzz kill on the web....

434 But she's hot!

435 Great songs being picked out, but you need a video with the entire Val-U-Rite catalog of fine liquors. I give you Single Bullet Theory "Keep It Tight".

436 toby...so say my sons...that's all i hear "she's hot"

437 Cheers for Ace for pulling our balls out of the dipping pool of "reputable sources" and retracting the post. That is why Ace is better than Larry Johnson.

438 Huh, I've been calling for a RICO indictment for ACORN for a while now, but I never expected it.

439 "just a fact.
 "she's the biggest buzz kill on the web...."

When I was referring to Malkin's preening Catholicism, I think that's what I was referring to, and mostly, I meant erection-suppression.

It's like if you took a physically hot and beautiful woman, removed the sexual charisma, added intellect, anger, and self-righteousness, and combined marketing savvy...

440 Cheers for Ace for pulling our balls out of the dipping pool of "reputable sources" and retracting the post. That is why Ace is better than Larry Johnson.

Posted by: David Ross at October 13, 2008 04:54 PM (GwV+j)

Good point. Plus he's not deleting comments like crazy. He's a more honourable man.

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442 @118

I won't even give Malkin the traffic. She wants Obama to win this election.

She has let her personal grudge against John McCain convince her that Obama would be a better POTUS and CinC during a time of war.


funky chicken, I gave up on reading Malkin and Hot Air a while back. You're not alone. Her vendetta against McCain wasn't the only issue. I don't even listen to rap, hearing her and O'Reilly complain about it constantly is irritating.

443 "I don't even listen to rap, hearing her and O'Reilly complain about it constantly is irritating."

POTL, I have a feeling Michelle Malkin would be thrilled with enforced abstinence. Oh, I'm probably wrong, but she just comes across that way.

444 Enforced abstinence?

"Sir, we have the car surrounded.  Step away from the vagina.  Exit the car slowly, keep your hands up, and lose the erection."

445 "Sir, we have the car surrounded.  Step away from the vagina.  Exit the car slowly, keep your hands up, and lose the erection."

LOL.  Isn't that the current state of the law?

446

Exit the car slowly, keep your hands up, and lose the erection."

"But I can't - I'm on cialis!!"

<hail of gunfire>

[next scene: coroner raises sheet and just shakes his head]

447 Aren't you concerned about 4 hour erections?  I think they should concern us all.

448 What the hell is "enforced abstinence?"  A chastity belt? Stupid.

449 Ace, it counts for a lot that you're honest about it.  Thanks for your efforts.

450 POTL, I have a feeling Michelle Malkin would be thrilled with enforced abstinence. Oh, I'm probably wrong, but she just comes across that way.


Christoph,

She might, in between "boycott, boycott, waaaah I don't like McCain, boycott, scarf ."

451 Yes, that's right, there are a billion + Catholics because abstinence is in the bible.

That's the thing about people who denigrate religion without even bothering to learn the basic things about it and no, skimming the Bible while on the john or even being raised in the religion doesn't cut it (you were a kid then); you honestly have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

452

Hitchens article saying "Vote Obama"!

Basically, he hates Palin and is sick of McCain

453 I just think Malkin has some messed up priorities. My problem with her isn't about abstinence or Catholicism. Also, Christoph's thing about Christ not existing is just plain dumb.

454

POTL, I have a feeling Michelle Malkin would be thrilled with enforced abstinence. Oh, I'm probably wrong, but she just comes across that way.

Here's a friendly tip that might just help if you're interested in not coming across as such a douchebag:  If you think that you're probably wrong about something, don't post it.

455

Hitchens article saying "Vote Obama"!

Basically, he hates Palin and is sick of McCain

Fuck Hitchens he hasn't taken a bath or showered or For matter Washed his hair in a month

And who else did you think he'd pick

456 Just to add -- there are state RICO statutes.  Also, the federal RICO statute only requires two predicate acts, so the "pattern of wrongdoing" someone above referred to can be pretty vestigial.

457 Michelle Malkin isn't my cup of tea, but I do respect her because she does a lot of original reporting, more than many well-known jounalists.

458 on michelle malkin -

let me quote from one of the Star War movies as memory permits - though someone can certainly correct this to be an exact quote -

"You could do with a good kiss!"  That is, Han Solo speaking to Princess Leia concerning his perception of her outlook on life, more or less  ;-)

459 I don't think Malkin sees her purpose in life as that one put here on earth to titillate assholes on the internet. Your attitude sounds too much like that of the moonbats who never miss a chance to sexually and racially denigrate her.

460 as that of one put ...

461 My comment is directed at Christoph.

462 my, my, my, dave, i bit twitchy, aren't we?

glad you're the arbitrator of what who might think that they're here for what purpose - glad to know you own that insight into eternity.

on the other hand, or so, you might say that if you read her blog for awhile that she's not exactly realistic about what's going on here. 

you vote for mccain or you vote marxist (obama) - that is the choice right now.  no other way to look at it.  vote marxist obama (or don't vote - same thing) and somehow hope you can undo the damage he'll do (supreme court, taxes, pardons, etc.) OR swallow the mccain pill and mitigate the damage -

wake up.

463 Read the comments, dumbass.

And I don't have to read her blog to know that she's not concerned with helping a bunch of losers, and apparently you're one of them, whack off.

Sober up!

464 "I don't think Malkin sees her purpose in life as that one put here on earth to titillate assholes on the internet. Your attitude sounds too much like that of the moonbats who never miss a chance to sexually and racially denigrate her."

I'd be tempted to say your comment could have merit, but having thought about it, it doesn't.

For example when people were talking about wanting Palin, VILP and the like, I thought that was totally inappropriate, mostly because she's married, as is Malkin.

But, seeing how I wrote my comment I could see how you'd see it that way. No, I've seen too many videos of Malkin where she seems to have a low opinion from a position of preening superiority to young women who are expressing or acting on their sexuality. That's the basis for my opinion of Malkin.

There's a commenter here who was talking about sex in extreme detail the other day. It was "gratifying" to use your words. I and other male commenters enjoyed it and she was answering a question she was asked (yes, by me). It was interesting.

The commenter is intelligent and morally right on every major issue I've ever seen her comment on. And the fact she enjoys sex, including a particular sex act, to me makes her entirely normal and human and it's her position on other issues that give me evidence of her moral worth.

I have a strong feeling based on what I've seen Malkin say in the past and how I've heard her say it that she'd look down upon said commenter and talk about how what she, the commenter, said was wrong, low class, etc. And I wouldn't agree with Malkin one bit.

Neither would half the U.S. army (at least) for that matter, including most of the American female soldiers I've known, in some cases intimately.

I guess I don't like people who look down upon brave, noble warriors or just decent people enjoying their lives and doing their jobs because they don't match Michelle Malkin's sense of sexual propriety. I think her sense of sexual proprietary is wonderful for her. I have no problem with it. She's married. It's fantastic.

But she looks down upon people who are as good as she is and that's vexing. I think this is one of her reasons for being against McCain, by the way.

And on that note, I'll end this comment by agreeing with Malkin. Because McCain was married, he should have done better despite his wife's accident and disability.

But the commenter in question (to the best of my knowledge; I'm not sure on this), and (definitely) some of the women I've seen Michelle Malkin harshly criticize were not married and were not acting in an immoral way.

A sexual way, but not an immoral way.

465
"Well, it could explain why a guy who really believed he was up by 10-15 in the polls and on the way to 350 EV would make such an expensive prime time buy."

He's doing it because, in effect, he has infinite money and he has to spend it on something. And because he doesn't want just to win: he wants to win huge.

He's not alone in that. There's a story told about Ronald Reagan, on election night of 1984, when he took 49 states, to Mondale's one (Minnesota) and the District of Columbia. After Mondale conceded, Reagan went on the air and made his usual gracious speech, praising his opponent and God bless America. Then, after the speech, he turned to an aide and said, "Why didn't we spend more time in Minnesota?"

Why just win if you can win huge? Why just beat your opponents if you can grind them into the dirt? If war is politics by other means, politics certainly is war by other means: and in war, the goal always is the unconditional surrender of the enemy. Anything less than that is a just a degree of failure. Here endeth the lesson.

466 Ace you got played

467 oh, i read the comments sir and and responded appropriately.

nonetheless, my position stands - michelle appears to be unrealistic for the current situation.

and i have to say, in your case, stating un-informed (as in "...i don't have to read her blog...") opinions loudly certainly always win...(not)...

468 I have a feeling Michelle Malkin would be thrilled with enforced abstinence.

That's the kind of stupid that gives atheists a bad name.

469 dave - dude...

who cares?  its a "comments" section on a blog.  (although i do like Ace and his blog even though he gets a bit pessimistic at times).

my point, without trying to be funny (the star wars stuff was an attempt at humor - however bad) is that there are two choices right now: "OK" or "Very BAD".

OK = McCain (although Sarah is Very GOOD).

Very BAD = Obama.

Michelle, though i like a lot of what she says, seemingly tends to the "pure" case thinking we can undo the damage later.  i don't;  i think, once in (God forbid), getting the marxists out and undoing the damage they caused will be 3 or 4 times as hard.

so there -

470

Jones, do you have a tap on Ace's phone line?  Have you hacked into his email?  No?  Then how the hell would you know if he "got played"?   Idiot.

You should reconsider posting your guesses.  They remove all doubt about your mental horsepower.

471 ewillers: You make no sense, your comments are non sequitturs, and your reading comprehension is below average.

472 dave -

ad hominen, (you can google that, btw), how perfect!

bring a knife (you) to a gun fight (me) sucks doesn't it?  (to borrow from "the one", however repulsive.)

and i just offered you a carrot - too bad.  go back to your basement flat, now.

473 Impacting flaccidly.

474

oh, i read the comments sir and and responded appropriately.

For someone as medicated as yourself.  Dave's right, go back and read for comprehension this time.

475 lex -

maybe you had better lay off the "medication" - as it were...

i've read all dave's comments and yours.  perhaps you think that saying one or two good thing cancels something else that is silly...not the case, sir.

my comments pertain specifically to dave's following comments:

"I don't think Malkin sees her purpose in life as that one put here on earth to titillate assholes on the internet. Your attitude sounds too much like that of the moonbats who never miss a chance to sexually and racially denigrate her."

how does Dave know what michelle "see her purpose in life" as?  perhaps, a supernatural power on his part?

let me ask you this, and to borrow dave's words, "dumbass", has he asked her?  get her on record, if this is the case, please, and I'll retract anything I've said.

my position stands - you have two choices: the first is "OK" and the second is "Very Bad".    "OK" is john mccain and "Very Bad" is Obama.  Michelle can rail all she wants against McCain, but i think the alternative is worse in the short and long runs.

476 gentlemen - dave and lex

a job awaits tomorrow and sign-off i must.

if you feel the need to post further, fine - i'll try to respond tomorrow if i feel i must.  seems like we're on the same side - more or less - at the end of the day.  debate is good -

thanks for the fun and no hard feelings (on my part anyway).

477

Geeze Christoph, you're one long-winded fuck!

Where do you think you are, a Mensa club meeting?  Most morons here don't care about your beliefs one way or the other.  Your arguments are vapid and irrelevent.

We just know that you are an annoying cock-sucker who goes out of your way to dick with the Christians.  As an athiest I despise you and your kind because you are too stupid to keep your mouth shut. You always have to make a point; You always have to spout off.  You never can nod politely to the Christian in the hall,  Never can smile politely at the Hindu, never can wave to the Jew.  Nooo, you gotta' make a point.  You talk and you talk and you talk!

Nobody fuckin' cares what you think!  If you are in public, keep your tousers up.  Nobody wants to see your rainbow-colored, baboon ass!

You're just like all those dumbass athiest shit-heads who sue the Boys Scouts just so they don't have to profess in a higher power when they show up at the pine-wood derby races.  They can't go along to get along.  They can't say,  "... under God" on the frickn' Pledge of Allegience because their sensibliites are going to get hurt.  They always got to act like they are the center of the fuckin' universe and to hell with the community they live in.

GOD you people piss me off!

Fuck off! Get along or get out!

478

Impacting flaccidly.

Posted by: Nice Deb at October 13, 2008 06:50 PM (9Ghzz)

Ouch, that must be a real let-down, eh, Deb?

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480 Nice job making up shit asshole.

481 leftists believe they are entitled to rule us all and if the law gets in the way so be it.....the ends justify the means with these kinds.  They have strategically leaked things to scare the less certain of us like riots will occur if the one is not crowned.  We have done this to ourselves and have only ourselves to blame.  We have spent decades being nice and compromising our values trying to get along all the while those on the left have been involved with a protracted war against the right.  We've allowed those thugs to occupy our schools and share their vulgar values with our children.  We've allowed other semi literate leftist thugs to control most of media and they put Josef Goebbels to shame.  We don't put signs up or stickers on our cars because we know they will key our cars or do lawn jobs...We hide our t-shirt with McCain or Palin on them because getting the finger or getting spit on is the leftist way. It's funny that the cool losers from highschool are stuck with their hands out begging their politicians for things their geeky neighbors can pay for themselve....Next year I get to pay SS on my entire income, swell another umpteen grand for my idiot neighbors to waste. I'll also get to pick up their mortgage and I suppose only tax payers will have to pay for everyones medical with TheOne's grand solution.....to pay off his masses of greedy needy leftist loser voters.  The bulk of the dem base maybe losers in the game of life....but they look like winners politically.

482 Andrew, I read a couple sentences of your comment before my eyes glassed over.

You have some good points... and if you want people to read them all, try paragraphs next time.

Please. And thank you.

483

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