<font color="red">2007: Obama Says He Will Invite ACORN to "Shape the Agenda" as President</font>

2007: Obama Says He Will Invite ACORN to "Shape the Agenda" as President

Unbelievable.

Would be wonderful if we had a candidate who could lower himself to attack a man who's fucking calling him a racist.

Thanks to Manuel.

Posted by: Ace at 08:00 PM

Comments

1 He beat me to it. I just saw this and imagine that YouTube will "vanish" it pretty quickly.

How damning!!!

from the description:
Obama said ACORN and friends, responsible for voting fraud and the suibprime crisis, are going to be shaping policy for an obama presidency

Posted by: Denise at October 11, 2008 08:02 PM (NaKCQ)

2 My friends, it's only a few bad people in ACORN, they are decent people no need to be afraid of them...

Posted by: spypeach at October 11, 2008 08:06 PM (QwWKI)

3 it's back up if you click through to YouTube

Posted by: buzz at October 11, 2008 08:08 PM (Uldz5)

2 My friends, it's only a few bad people in ACORN, they are decent people no need to be afraid of them...

I am sure there are some concerned conservative Christians among them.

Posted by: Javems at October 11, 2008 08:09 PM (/IQA9)

Somebody get a cache of this and then send it over to Hannity, O'Reilly and Greta at Fox and Lou Dobbs at CNN. They are the only ones with the balls to pursue this.

I'm a computer moron or I'd do it myself.

Posted by: c17wife at October 11, 2008 08:11 PM (Hpo1H)

6 McCain = racist

Wright = not racist

That is just fucked up.

But not as fucked up as the war-hero pussy we're stuck with letting that shit go by.

Posted by: Stinky Esposito at October 11, 2008 08:11 PM (MMC8r)

7 You know what's gonna suck? The next 4 years.

Posted by: DrewM. at October 11, 2008 08:11 PM (hlYel)

8 bizzaro world

Posted by: trailortrash at October 11, 2008 08:13 PM (pseS/)

9 I'll be in my bunker.

Posted by: Darth Bacon at October 11, 2008 08:14 PM (D5mwg)

10 The message is clear. Don't bother filing 1040's once O'Bambi is elected, simply send your entire gross to IRS, Ogden, UT and they will dispense what you need. If it's less than what's required, just plant a victory garden to eat, or park your car if your tires are bald. Welcome to the wonderful world of the United Socialist States of Amerika. Don't bitch or they will cut off your nuts.

Posted by: Fish at October 11, 2008 08:15 PM (6Rihj)

11 You know, Johnny Mac, you don't have to take the gloves off. You do, however, need to exercise some footwork and not lead with your jaw. Maybe listen to your ringside coach, Sarah 'cuda' Palin for some jabbing tips.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 11, 2008 08:17 PM (sI5Ho)

12 EVERYONE send this to Drudge. And any media contacts you may have.

Posted by: Benson at October 11, 2008 08:20 PM (qzcNU)

13 I'm caching it in a couple of safe locations. I'll send Ace the links to lose when they're ready.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 11, 2008 08:23 PM (yIy7z)

14 My friends, it's only a few bad people in ACORN, they are decent people no need to be afraid of them...

Posted by: spypeach at October 11, 2008 08:06 PM (QwWKI)

You forgot the jazz hands.

Posted by: Watcher at October 11, 2008 08:24 PM (7DsYs)

15 Anyone got the direct YouTube link, or is it gone? I get nothing here, and clicking on it (which usually brings up the actual YouTube page) isn't working either.

Posted by: Candiru Fish at October 11, 2008 08:25 PM (5hxyn)

16 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU

I am still getting it

sent it to Drudge

Posted by: Denise at October 11, 2008 08:28 PM (NaKCQ)

While I agree the odds on McCain winning the election are looking thin, I'm not going to get that worked up about it. By the 2010 midterms the Dems will be a bloody mess.

Posted by: Shrug at October 11, 2008 08:29 PM (/DlqX)

18 Never mind, I got it to work.

What's with that magenta background behind O! when he starts speaking? Where did that come from?

Posted by: Candiru Fish at October 11, 2008 08:31 PM (5hxyn)

19 I see it now. It's a background. You can see a similar one on the other side of the stage in the still shot.

Posted by: Candiru Fish at October 11, 2008 08:34 PM (5hxyn)

Does not McGentle realize that when he chides his supporters about being mean to the man who exhorted his followers to "get in the face" of voters, that maybe he's disheartening his own people so that he can curry favor to the news farts like Dana Milbank who only love him when he loses?

What a moron.

Is he really the best we could do?

Posted by: rakkim at October 11, 2008 08:38 PM (DWgCd)

21
It isn't just that Obama is calling McCain a racist. Obama and his people are calling McCain's voters and Palin's fans racists. Time to stick up for your people.

Posted by: Ronsonic at October 11, 2008 08:41 PM (ywSvi)

How bout this?

Pres. Bush goes out on monday, requests a press conference, And declares a National Emergency. He then describes all the BS concerning The bailout, acorn, voter fraud, dems needing investigating, etc.

Suspend the elections per an Executive Order, until the courts can can make up their efffed up minds about where this mess ought to go.

National Emergency..Are we not there?

Or, a National Security Directive. Something. Do Something!

Moonbat heads would explode.

Do you think the ...o...camp has not thought about this very concept?

Posted by: Hugh Jass at October 11, 2008 08:46 PM (vx9or)

23 wow.... just had somebody make a "keep quite about Obama or your car might get keyed" threat to me at work when I dared to even mention Acorn.

Somebody make a copy of this video quick, bet you it will be pulled, rofl.

Posted by: Uh-huh at October 11, 2008 08:47 PM (WqWsE)

24 You know who sucks? Drudge. Where the fuck are you Drudge? Every fucking one of these stories has been ignored by Drudge. It's as if he wants Obama to win. WTF!!!

Posted by: CJ at October 11, 2008 08:49 PM (+MTKV)

25 Great catch!

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at October 11, 2008 08:53 PM (YvLui)

You'll see Wednesday, ladies. Getting your panties in a wad about McCain being too "nice". He's not; he's holding onto his hole cards, and we may be letting the cat out of the bag a little early here.

That being said, it's always nice to be able to shred your opponent with the truth.

Posted by: flashoverride at October 11, 2008 08:53 PM (cuTsc)

27 Google took down their archive search. Hmmmm.

Posted by: topsecretk9 at October 11, 2008 08:57 PM (w1to3)

28 mccain's camp has it now.

Posted by: no one at October 11, 2008 09:00 PM (1WR4H)

Google took down their archive search. Hmmmm.

I got it to work. I just googled google archives and it popped up.

Posted by: KCLady at October 11, 2008 09:02 PM (4eYzF)

30 flashoverride, I continue to grasp to the same hope. But the problem is it could look desperate in the 3rd debate and will the 3rd debate even get the viewership that the 1st debate got Wasn't the viewership low in the 2nd debate? Is McCain counting on the reporting of what takes place on the 3rd debate to penetrate the filter? i.e., he accuses Obama of x,y,z and then it must be printed the next day?

I don't get this strategy. It's just not making sense, but I do still hold hope.

Remember, McCain waited until the *last* minute in Florida to kick Romney real hard in the balls with that bullshit accusation that Romney supported a troop withdrawal timetable.

Does McCain still have this fight in him?

Posted by: CJ at October 11, 2008 09:05 PM (+MTKV)

31 I guess we may very well have two Manchurian candidates in this election. Obama may be one for the far-left, and McCain IS one for the center-left.

The best hope now is the Obama was just using the far-left. If Obama isn't too far left, at least with a Dem in the White House, there will be Republicans to stand up to spending and regulation, so things might not be too bad.

I think the "doomed" Republican stuff is a bunch of crap. Giuliani would have beaten Obama soundly. The primary system is so fucked up. The way the primary system is set up, religious freaks made Giuliani and Romney dead on arrival before they got to the big states. What percentage of the vote did the two statist conservatives -- McCain and Huckabee -- get? Almost all of it. And if we don't nominate an free-market conservative, we lose. If we do, we win. It's that fucking simple.

I hate to say it, but Andrew Sullivan may be right that the Christianists have taken over the GOP -- THEY gave us McCain. The Christian Right is every bit as much of a problem as the liberal media in getting an adult into the White House.

Posted by: Cedric at October 11, 2008 09:05 PM (rM8m0)

32 "The Republican campaign strategy now involves sending their candidates to areas where everybody is a die-hard McCain supporter already. Then they yell about Obama until the crowd is so frenzied people start making threats. The rest of the country is supposed to watch and conclude that this would be an enjoyable way to spend the next four years."

I love it.

Posted by: President Obama at October 11, 2008 09:06 PM (YrCzB)

33 Ideally, The McCain camp will drop some bread crumbs to the 3rd debate and John will lay it out for Barack and "say it to his face". I think the reason that John hasn't looked at Obama in the debates is because he's letting the tension build.

Posted by: flashoverride at October 11, 2008 09:08 PM (cuTsc)

34 Hmmmm.

Maybe it's time to go on disability.

Posted by: memomachine at October 11, 2008 09:09 PM (f4Zt4)

35 Hmmmm.

Why were conservatives pushed into supporting McCain?

Oh fucking yeah. ... Electability.

Remember that shit!? Electability? Republican reason #1 for not nominating a conservative.

Remember?

Oh yeah. McCain's got that --electability-- shit all sewn up.

Posted by: memomachine at October 11, 2008 09:11 PM (f4Zt4)

yeah McNice waited until the last minute to go after Romney, but you forget, Romney is a Republican. McNice has no problem taking off the gloves to smack them down. It's the Dems who make him go all quivery inside assuring us that we have nothing to fear from them. thanks.

Posted by: rakkim at October 11, 2008 09:12 PM (DWgCd)

37 matt drudges "best friend" works for Romney. Drudge and Matt Rhoades want Obama to win because they think it sets up Romney to run in21012. He is toast if McCain wins.

Posted by: Ricki at October 11, 2008 09:13 PM (4EQPW)

38 I hate to say it, but Andrew Sullivan may be right that the Christianists have taken over the GOP -- THEY gave us McCain. The Christian Right is every bit as much of a problem as the liberal media in getting an adult into the White House.

Have you bothered to follow politics for the last few decades? Every time the Republicans have made the religious right enthusiastic they have won - Reagan 80+84, Bush 88, Bush 00+04.

McCain was chosen by crossover Dems,"moderates" and Republican insider types.

The Religious Right was split between Romney, Huckabee, and Thompson.

Overall this was a very weak field of campaigners the Republicans put forward for President.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 11, 2008 09:15 PM (2/riP)

McCain is starting to remind me of Bush I in his re-election campaign versus Clinton. He. just. wouldn't. fight. He seemed to think he was above going toe to toe with a shiv- shoving Arkie. A lot of good that did him.

Posted by: rdbrewer at October 11, 2008 09:17 PM (CrSOk)

40 #35

I think that's part of it. Part of it was the stop Huckabee movement, and part of it was the fact that McCain was tolerable to the Christian Right. The two candidates that would have acutally fought for our ideas instead of apologizing for our ideas -- Giuliani and Romney -- were DOA. Apologizing for your ideas is no way to win an election.

Posted by: Cedric at October 11, 2008 09:17 PM (rM8m0)

41 let's not have this fight now, please.

Posted by: ace at October 11, 2008 09:18 PM (1WR4H)

42 By the 2010 midterms the Dems will be a bloody mess.

They're a mess now. How is that helping us, exactly?

Posted by: loren heal at October 11, 2008 09:19 PM (s9Ak0)

43 Suspend the elections per an Executive Order, until the courts can can make up their efffed up minds about where this mess ought to go.

What a horrible idea. If Obama wins the election fairly, Bush is obligated to step down, he should, and he will.

However, considering the last eight years every Republican or conservative working in any fashion with the government also has an obligation - to try and sabotage as much of Obama's agenda as possible.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 11, 2008 09:20 PM (2/riP)

44 Ricki what's your source for that?

memomachine, you are so right it hurts. I remember debating idiot McCain supporters and being told that Romney was unelectable. RedState.com was the worst culprit. They censored everything people said about McCain, they were the biggest dooshes on the conservative side. RedState, are you listening? You suck balls. LOL.

Now this theory of McCain building the tension, I dunno. Isn't that playing into the cranky McCain meme? And who the fuck is even watching the 3rd debate?

Damn, I'm starting to get negative myself.

Posted by: CJ at October 11, 2008 09:21 PM (+MTKV)

45 #38

Couple of things:

1) Explain Mike Huckabee
2) Had Romney been a non-Mormon, he wins
3) Republican insiders hated John McCain because of McCain/Feingold

I know we need the RR to win, but why can't they understand that all a president can do for them is to nominate strict constructionists?

Posted by: Cedric at October 11, 2008 09:23 PM (rM8m0)

46 Drudge will link to this once one of the big blogs/news agencies/editorals do somthing on this. Get someone to pop out an article real quick to get the front page link!

Posted by: G-Dawg at October 11, 2008 09:23 PM (mzfP0)

47 go to the FEC reporting and you can see Matt Rhodes was working in the Romney presidential campaign. Do a search on Rhodes and Drudge.

Posted by: Ricki at October 11, 2008 09:28 PM (4EQPW)

48 Couple of things:

1) Explain Mike Huckabee
2) Had Romney been a non-Mormon, he wins
3) Republican insiders hated John McCain because of McCain/Feingold

I know we need the RR to win, but why can't they understand that all a president can do for them is to nominate strict constructionists?

The RR loved Mike Huckabee no doubt. Which strongly points out that they were not supporting McCain.

Yes, Mormonism hurt Romney with some parts of the RR. The fact that he had adopted positions the RR opposed in the 90s hurt him rather more...and not just with the RR.

And as for Republican insiders remember the "only McCain can win in this political climate" argument? I certainly do.

And as for the RR getting with the program...they did. I don't see much of the RR sitting this election out, even though McCain had specifically antagonized the RR in the past.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 11, 2008 09:33 PM (2/riP)

49 Hey Ace, I call bullshit on comment #22, the one in which Hugh Jass is demanding Bush suspend the elections.

Sounds like a moonbat fantasy, swathed in a "Concerned Christian Conservative" astroturf blanket.

Posted by: DelD at October 11, 2008 09:35 PM (hs9gk)

50 Is it to late to replace McCain with a Palin/Romney ticket?

Posted by: Iblis at October 11, 2008 09:44 PM (Gp5Am)

51 By the 2010 midterms the Dems will be a bloody mess.

By 2010 the country will be a bloody mess, the Obama/Democrat/media line will be "Wow, when we got into office everything was worse than we thought! It took Dubya and the Republicans 8 years to screw the country up this bad, it'll take more than 2 to fix it", and all the dumbasses who don't understand a goddamn thing about economics or politics, who think that the Fannie/Freddie meltdown was caused by Republican politicians, will go along with it and obediently vote out the rest of those Rethug bastards.

Sorry, I'm in a gloomy mood today.

Posted by: Brendan at October 11, 2008 09:44 PM (2jQGY)

52 I won't egg anyone else on. I'd like to stress one thing I asserted: The worst thing we could do if we lose this election is to say Obama was inevitable. He must certainly is/was not.

I have no idea how legally to change the primary system, but I no longer trust it to give us a competent candidate.

Posted by: Cedric at October 11, 2008 09:45 PM (rM8m0)

53 it just made Wizbang (I sent it)

Posted by: Denise at October 11, 2008 09:51 PM (NaKCQ)

I have an idea for a great line that Palin should use during her stump speeches, but don't know how to get it to her:

"I understand that many of Senator Obama's supporters refer to him as "The Messiah". Well, I am beginning to believe in the truth of this. Has anyone noticed the record number of newly registered voters this year who have risen from the dead?"

Posted by: rookwood at October 11, 2008 09:54 PM (p50Ws)

55 Guiliani was what was needed. All you creeps who got in the way, I hate your guts. Romney had an ick factor and at most Mormonism was tangential to that.

There, that's the last looking back and being rude I'm gonna allow myself, at least until it comes to winning seats to keep the Bagmanchurian in check.

I won't ever vote for McCain. I'm voting against Obama. He's that bad.

Posted by: SarahW at October 11, 2008 09:55 PM (7sl9X)

56 the dumbasses who don't understand a goddamn thing about economics or politics, who think that the Fannie/Freddie meltdown was caused by Republican politicians, will go along with it and obediently vote out the rest of those Rethug bastards.

Actually, I'm rather a bit more concerned about what an Obama administration will do to alter the very fabric of our system. Not only with the radical left control the Congress and the Presidency, but the bureaucracy, the media, the schools, and the unions.

And I expect Obama will do his best to restrict political blogs on the internet and talk radio. Oh yes, and the whole point of the article starting this thread, he plans on helping the Democrats move from isolated pockets of voter fraud in the big cities to an organized national system with his Acorn friends.

Why do I have the feeling we will see many more elections like the 2004 governor's election in WA state if Obama wins?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 11, 2008 09:56 PM (2/riP)

57 Of course Obama will welcome the thoughts of his ACORN Sturmabteilung brothers. It is important to give the uneducated radical thugs their day of recognition, right before Obama launches his National Volunteer Service and has no need of the undesirable inner-city thugs.

Posted by: redherkey at October 11, 2008 09:58 PM (kjqFg)

58 DelD. Do the letters F. O. mean anything to you?

Posted by: Hugh Jass at October 11, 2008 09:59 PM (vx9or)

59
If you haven't seen these Ayers articles, you ought to.

The Bill Ayers/Obama Idea Of Education

The Ed Schools� Latest�and Worst�Humbug
Sol Stern

It probably doesn't mean what I wish it did*, but note the title of Ayers' dissertation:
�The Discerning �I�: Accounts of Teacher Self-Construction Through the Use of Co-Biography, Metaphor, and Image.�

I'm thinking it simply refers to the different "bios" of teachers included in his dissertation...he used 3 or 4 teacher's telling their "stories".

Posted by: SarahW at October 11, 2008 10:09 PM (7sl9X)

60 Jeeze! Talk about a slooow pitch. McCain! Please! Hit this one out of the park. Its not that hard.

Posted by: smapty at October 11, 2008 10:09 PM (6F7lQ)

61 The "idea of education" link is to Sweetness and Light blog.

The Sol Stern Education School Humbug is to a 2006 City Journal article.

And let me add how much I farging hate Tinyurl. It makes linking about 5 times as much work. And I always formatted my links like a good girl.

Posted by: SarahW at October 11, 2008 10:12 PM (7sl9X)

62 "what an Obama administration will do to alter the very fabric of our system. Not only with the radical left control the Congress and the Presidency, but the bureaucracy, the media, the schools, and the unions. "

exactly

Posted by: SarahW at October 11, 2008 10:14 PM (7sl9X)

63 Oh, and the courts. And the constitution.

Posted by: SarahW at October 11, 2008 10:15 PM (7sl9X)

64 "Obama was just using the far-left". Well, of COURSE he is.
But dream on if you think he'll be a center left president.

The overarching goal of his life, besides his desire to be important, is to tear Anerica apart and rebuilt it into a Euro-commie Steve Austin.

Posted by: SarahW at October 11, 2008 10:21 PM (7sl9X)

65 National Volunteer Service

God save us. That's where the thugs go.

Posted by: SarahW at October 11, 2008 10:22 PM (7sl9X)

We have to drag McCain across the finish line.

period.

delD. F.O.A.D.

Posted by: Hugh Jass at October 11, 2008 10:23 PM (vx9or)

67 Hmmmm.

@ Brendan

"and all the dumbasses who don't understand a goddamn thing about economics or politics, who think that the Fannie/Freddie meltdown was caused by Republican politicians, will go along with it and obediently vote out the rest of those Rethug bastards."

It would be easier to fight if McCain & Co., along with Bush, hadn't let the Democrats set the blame unopposed.

IMO when McCain talked about "fight" during the convention I thought it would involve not just our fighting but *McCain* fighting.

Posted by: memomachine at October 11, 2008 10:27 PM (f4Zt4)

68 Something I realized today:

Vote fraud in the hands of people like Acorn isn't just about defeating Republicans. In local and state primaries, it's also about beating the WRONG kind of Democrats.

Acorn has its list of fraudulent voters that it's registered, sends folks in to vote as those people, and stacks the deck against conservative or moderate Democrats in state and local elections. Over time, their whole party has moved leftward, with that as a strong influence on it.

Haven't we all wondered what has happened to conservative Dems? They've been moved out of the party by rolls of fake voters in the hands of radical groups like Acorn. Like shadow Superdelegates.

Posted by: Stinky Esposito at October 11, 2008 10:27 PM (MMC8r)

69 Anerica <- that will be the new name. HOPE AND CHANGE

Posted by: SarahW at October 11, 2008 10:28 PM (7sl9X)

70 DelD. Do the letters F. O. mean anything to you?

Yeah, they mean you're a fucking idiot, because only a fucking idiot would be so stupid to suggest that anyone with half a brain wants to suspend the elections.

In fact, your suggestion is so stupid, so fucking beyond the pale, that I have to conclude that you're a plant, since only someone who was seeking to discredit the conservative movement would suggest something this asinine.

This country has never suspended an election, even in the midst of civil war and two World Wars. And now, when McCain is five points down in the polls, you want to have Bush call out the National Guard?

You're either a moonbat troll, or functionally retarded. Take your pick.

Posted by: DelD at October 11, 2008 10:29 PM (hs9gk)

71 Hmmmm.

@ SarahW

"Guiliani was what was needed. All you creeps who got in the way, I hate your guts. Romney had an ick factor and at most Mormonism was tangential to that."

Face it Guiliani would never have won and was a lousy candidate.

1. Remember that holding up the cell phone and talking with this wife crap?

2. He's a gun grabber. I'm a gun rights supporter. Nominate Guiliani and most gun owners and 2nd Amendment supporters would've given the big -fuck you- to him.

3. He's a fucking flake. He probably would've won the nomination if he didn't act like a complete fucking flake.

Posted by: memomachine at October 11, 2008 10:31 PM (f4Zt4)

72 Maybe we need a "new party" of our own. The one that isn't afraid of calling ACORN, etc, on their scams.

Posted by: SarahW at October 11, 2008 10:32 PM (7sl9X)

73 Too late now, and there's time for arguments and bitter reflections enough. At least till that end of the world thing in 2012.

I feel like that episode of the OC where Andy Samberg gets it.
You know what I mean.

Posted by: SarahW at October 11, 2008 10:34 PM (7sl9X)

74 #73 is to memomachine. Sorry for not saying so.

Posted by: SarahW at October 11, 2008 10:35 PM (7sl9X)

75 DelD is right.

Electing Obama would suck, but we can deal. The USA will still be great, and the GOP would probably come back a little more focused.

Suspending an election just because the media hasn't told the truth about Obama (basically the general problem) would be a national disgrace.

Posted by: Shill at October 11, 2008 10:44 PM (8jYMc)

76 Hmmmm.

@ SarahW

"#73 is to memomachine. Sorry for not saying so."

Hey knock yourself out. But don't think for a moment that Guiliani wasn't a shitty candidate because he was. He was a one-line guy "remember 9/11" and that was it. And as facist as Obama is, Guiliani isn't far behind him either.

So go ahead and live in the fantasy world where Guiliani is a viable national candidate. Because that's the only place where Guiliani could possibly win.

Posted by: memomachine at October 11, 2008 10:44 PM (f4Zt4)

delD.

Lets see what Obama proposes.

In about six months.

If he wins.

...I am no plant..

But your judgment of me shows how claustrophobic you are.

And, The O ...Will..Suspend...Elections.

Suck It.

Posted by: Hugh Jass at October 11, 2008 10:52 PM (vx9or)

78 Hmmmm

"And, The O ...Will..Suspend...Elections."

Nonsense. If elections got suspended for -any- reason we would have American Civil War II fought in Washington D.C. and I don't believe that it'll happen.

Posted by: memomachine at October 11, 2008 10:54 PM (f4Zt4)

79 So, let me get this straight, you think Obama might suspend elections, so you want Bush to suspend election.

I was right, you are functionally retarded.

Posted by: DelD at October 11, 2008 11:17 PM (hs9gk)

At that point in time, What are you going to war with?

Kitchen Knives?

American Civil War lost, due to? No guns. No voice in media, no got your back because of whatever. A whole bunch of idiots claiming racists!

It will never end.

Stand Up and tell em...NO MORE...

Posted by: Hugh Jass at October 11, 2008 11:23 PM (Njgcs)

81 Memomachine,

I think I hinted I felt fantasy scenrios were a waste at least for now. I denounce myself for indulging in one.

Even looking back at how we got to this point seems an effort in futility at achieving the present goal, which is somehow reveal Obama for what he is and prevent his Alinskyite ass from restructuring our government and society as he would wish.

Posted by: SarahW at October 11, 2008 11:26 PM (7sl9X)

Thanks delD,

I really think you kicked my ass.

Time il tell.

Posted by: Hugh Jass at October 11, 2008 11:28 PM (Njgcs)

83
You want to know what the Obama presidency is going to be like? Come to Chicago and Cook County. Come to Illinois. One-party rule by the Dems. Corrupt government. Income taxes that just keep going up and up. Property takes thatt will make you gasp. Takes on everything including bottled water. The highestt sales tax in the U.S. Cronyism in governmen (e.g., Stroger family and the Cook County board; Daley family and Chicago; Madigan family and the state legislature). Politicians on the take, judges on the take, cops on the take. Nanny-state intrusiveness into your private lives (no smoking in bars, no foi gras on your brats, etc., etc.). Lies, lies, lies.

You asked for it, America. Hell, you're going to vote for it.

Posted by: Steve (aka Ed Snate) at October 12, 2008 12:02 AM (V2BcO)

84 Hmmmm.

@SarahW

"Even looking back at how we got to this point seems an effort in futility at achieving the present goal, which is somehow reveal Obama for what he is and prevent his Alinskyite ass from restructuring our government and society as he would wish."

*shrug* sure.

But IMO, and I might be in my own fantasy world here, the reason we here in this kind of spot is because the GOP has done everything possible to reduce, eliminate or dilute conservatism's power in the Republican party. We've had 20+ years of "vote Republican ... and don't worry if it's a liberal because we need a majority!". And conservatives by and large bought it because pundits, like Kathleen Parker and Peggy Noonan et al, also helped push that meme.

So here we are. In a situation where a classic conservative *could* win the Presidency but we don't have one in position. Why? No conservatives available because the GOP has seen to it that conservatives don't get party money or support. Because liberal Republicans don't generally hire conservatives on their staffs, which is usually the first step towards public office and the first rung on the ladder.

What does the public want? Fiscal conservatism. Pity we only have a handful in the entire fricking GOP.

I guess it'll be another 10-20 years of dedicated support before we have a conservative Congress. But that'll never happen because every conservative that -votes- conservative will some asshole Republican shouting fucking "moby" or other stupid-ass shit and whining about how conservatives gotta stop being so fucking ... conservative and vote liberal.

Which is a real fucking barnburner.

Posted by: memomachine at October 12, 2008 12:29 AM (f4Zt4)

85 http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/this_could_be_the_game_changer.html

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