1 Will this convince McCain to start hitting Obama on Rev. Wright?

2 Like I said take the gloves off, you are going to be called a racist and other names anyways.  Might as well get the advantage of the attacks then.

3 Nah, McCain doesn't want to get his petticoats dirty. His precious sense of honor is more important than the troops or the country.

4
Wright is old news.  Obama quoting Malcolm X is not.

5 Damned if we do. Damned if we don't.

6 McCain needs to remain presidential to some degree. He can't come out there and sound like a total dick. Palin chomping the ass off Obama is better, as well at RNC and 527's just obliterating him on the airwaves.

7

So what now?  Time to surrender?  It's McCain's duty to fight back if he truly believes that Obama would cause us to lose in Iraq.  That's he unwilling to do what is necessary (e.g. Wright) suggests to me that he doesn't believe his own rhetoric about the importance of victory in Iraq.

By the way and a little off-topic, but did Palin contradict McCain on North Korea? I'm having flashbacks of the Pakistan controversy two weeks ago.

8

These people are absolutely shameless. 

And, I'm sorry, civil-rights hero not-withstanding, but John Lewis is as dumb as a box of hammers.  I'm not kidding.  If every frickn issue is civil rights related, you are just plain dumb.  "My 401k went down, must be racist."  "It's raining, well just like the water hoses in the 60's, that's racist."  Give me a break.

 

9

Dear obama spokesperson,

Fine, you are right. Palin should have said that obama conducts business with terrorists instead of obama pals around with terrorists.

Signed,

KCLady

10 As for McCain, what's he going to do? Yeah he could go on the offensive about smear tactics, uncivil discourse and the double standards of the left but what's that going to accomplish?

Well.  Nothing.  Because McCain has problems with going on the offensive.  If it DOES'NT come up, it will DO nothing.  Much more effective to continue down the same the path he's been on.  Mr. Rogers on prozac.  /snort 

11 Apparently this is what our future is going to be. Obama must have been the kid on the playground that took the ball away and blamed everyone else. If he had any decency he would come out and address this issue himself.  He would be a leader if he denounced what Lewis said. But we all know that will never happen.

12 Yeah, Obama can basically call Palin a pig and get away with it. It's not as if McCain told some anecdote comparing O to some big fluffy cat from Maine or anything. Geez.

13 Wright is old news.  Obama quoting Malcolm X is not.

Posted by: Gran at October 11, 2008 05:38 PM (mTWN+)

And the exact same Malcolm X quote he used on the Clintons in South Carolina ... said in Pennsylvania, where Hillary beat his ass like a rented mule.

I seriously believe he is obsessed with trying to rub the Clintons' noses in dogshit.

 

14 Obama's running out the clock. You'll only see action if somehow McCain gets off his dead ass and starts scoring points.

What's Barry got to lose. Part of his stratagey has been to let others do the attacking for him. Why shift now?

15

Dear obama spokesperson,

Fine, you are right. Palin should have said that obama conducts business with terrorists instead of obama pals around with terrorists.

Signed,

KCLady

Well, I'll admit that would be more accurate  LOL

16 I just put on my tin-foil thinking cap to ponder this a bit, and it seems to me that Obama people could have put this in Lewis' (and Meeks' and Reid's and  . . .ad infinitum) ear, just so as to be able to claim innocence, yet not roundly denounce the comments.  Like He's running His Own Underground Hopenchange Railway, if you will.  Who knows where the next one will appear?

17 That might be a big "Duh" moment for me.

18 4 Obama's running out the clock. You'll only see action if somehow McCain gets off his dead ass and starts scoring points.

What's Barry got to lose. Part of his stratagey has been to let others do the attacking for him. Why shift now?

Obama is toast you retard, He is in Pa. with 4 count them 4 campaign stops, John Lewis when he goes into Hyperbole Overdrive knows he is on the losing team, & Sarah tore into  Obama in Pa. on Abortionhttp://tinyurl.com/4emawj

19

yeah, if Obama's up by 10 in PA, why is he regaling the ghetto Philly crowd with Malcolm X quotes?

Motivating them to use all 20 of the registration cards ACORN got each of them?

20

McCain and Palin are returning to Pennsylvania on Tuesday; my guess is that their internals show them down 5-7 points in Iowa, New Mexico, and Wisconsin and down 3-5 points in Minnesota; all those states work for McCain pretty well demographically (older population and a lot of catholic voters), so it makes sense for McCain to visit those states even if the polls show him down.  Next week may be the last week for offense.

The left has tried to make a big deal of the fact that Palin was visiting WV; it turns out that she isn't after all and just stopping by the airport to cross over to SE Ohio.  These fools are trying to make stuff up to demoralize the base and drive the narrative that this is over just as they tried to do to Hillary Clinton.

21

Obama's running out the clock. You'll only see action if somehow McCain gets off his dead ass and starts scoring points.

If I was coach of Team McCain, I'd be screaming into my mic for the offensive coordinator to "send in Romney!" Cuz when all is said and done, things like this are just noise. McCain needs someone to intercept the economy football and get it moving the other way down the field. (Hey, I'm a girl. Of course my football metaphors suck.)

Romney could do that. McCain should trot him out and announce that Romney will be his economic czar and tell people that he's already got a plan to turn things around just like he turned around the olympics. People trust Romney on economics. He could make the difference for McCain.

So where the hell is he? Is it McCain who won't deal with him or Romney who won't come into the fold? It's nuts that he's not being used.

22 I would start pointing out to people that to disagree with the democrats means you will be called a racist. They were cocky enough to do it to the Clintons, of all people, they've done it through out the campaign, and if obama is elected, they will do it to any citizen who disagrees with them. They are truly race baters extrordinaire.

23

D^2 comes round here taunting those he takes to be creationists.  Seems he thinks scientific illiteracy is the preserve of conservatives.

Or at least he says so while snorting some homeopathic remedy,engaging in aromatherapy, and having his aura diagnosed.

He ought to talk to Lewis, who said on the House floor that so many slaves were thrown overboard years ago on their way to the Americas, sharks STILL ply the ships' routes looking for tasty corpses.

That's whack, man.  But that's the kind of stupid shit lefties believe in.

 

24 #23

Again - Lewis wasn't the source of the shark story - it was Major Owens.

25 Identity politics is so much fun. I wish I were eligible to play . Tribalism writ large.
Well, I can do the tribal thing too . Except , the United States is my only tribal allegiance. I don't belong to any religious tradition . There's no way I'm claiming all of the people that share my skin tone are superior or always praiseworthy . Hell, I'm not even a very partisan sports fan . America is my only tribe .
What I want is a strong and reasonably humane leader as my chieftain. I don't mean humane like a quaker . I mean like Harry Truman, who could integrate the barracks in the U.S. army while still having the stones to drop the bomb on the Japanese . You know , humane like a mongol .


Obama and his people ain't even close .

26

I'm actually surprised McCain hasn't started campaigning for Obama.

Any day now, any day. 

27

I'm afraid McCain doesn't have the stomach for it, but if he wanted to win he say something like this at the next debate (using pretty much any question to launch into it):

"I'm getting pretty tired of being told what I am not allowed to discuss regarding Senator Obama and the election of the next president of the US.

"When we ran an ad poking fun at his lack of accomplishments by comparing him to Paris Hilton and Britney Spears, MSNBC said including a Senator Obama with two white women in an ad was racist.

"When we ran an ad showing his Germany speach with the victory tower in the background, Bob Herbert of the Wash Post said including Senator Obama with such an obvious phallic symbol was racist.

"When Gov Palin poked fun at his time as a community organizer, we were told by the media that we were comparing him to Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and that was racist.

"When we ran an ad questioning his ties to Franklin Raines, one of those most responsible for the Fannie Mae fiasco, we were told by Harry Reid that including Senator Obama with a black man in an ad was racist.

"When Gov. Palin questioned his ties to American terrorist Bill Ayers, we were told by the Associated Press that associating Senator Obama with a white man was racist.

"When we questioned his ties to ACORN and the entire sup-prime lending debacle, we were told by Barney Frank that questioning the granting of loans to those not credit-worthy was racist.

"Now Senator Obama has not said these things himself, but he has been perfectly willing to stand back silently while others make the accusation.  He is fine with issues that may be damaging to him being taken "off the table". Finally today, Rep. Lewis went too far by calling me a modern-day George Wallace.  Senator Obama's response?  While Rep. Lewis should not have said it, I brought it on myself.

"The overwhelming majority of Americans despise racism.  But they also despise those who charge "RACIST" simply to avoid taking resposibility for their actions.

"So what will it be Senator Obama?  Are we allowed to discuss these issues?

 

There is no good answer for Obama.  If he says no, McCain says, "fine, we'll see if the American people agree with your opinion..."  If he says yes, then McCain says, "then please tell your cheerleaders in the Dem party and the media to stop it, right now for the record.  And let's start going over your answers to these questions right here in this debate."

Of course, the media will go bat-shit crazy, but who cares.  It will resonate with the average American and also get people thinking about what the next four years might be like if you dare to question The One.

28 A drug crazed thief is pointing a loaded automatic at your nose demanding your life and you ask him politely to put down the weapon.

An overload of senatorial statesmanlike etiquette ain't gonna win the shoot-out at the OK Corral in Tombstone, AZ.

It isn't that what McCain said was wrong, or even the way he said it was 'wrong' had he concluded with a crisp judgmental tone on Obama for allowing the promotion of such ugliness from his campaign instead of "pretty please with sugar on top do what is right." Perhaps the final word arrives on the installment plan.

29 McCain must pound 2 points into the public consciousness.
1. Criticism of Obama is not racism. Playing the race card is a distraction from the issues, as Zero likes to say.
2. The Republicans are not to blame for the credit clusterfuck. We all know the facts - the rest of the electorate, those in the vast middle who generally aren't paying much attention, need to hear this over and over.

30 The Sun Times today gave a major clue that Barack Obama will indeed go down with Tony Rezko, sooner rather than later. It looks as though Rezko is about to turn on Alexi Giannoulias, the 30-year old State Treasurer of Illinois (who was elected only because Obama backed him).

Here’s where all the clues are…and then we’ll walk you through the local Chicago politics on how today’s hint by the Sun Times has us convinced, for the first time ever, that prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald could indeed send Barack Obama to jail. We need to repeat that: we never believed, until now, that Obama would go to jail for anything related to Rezko. Today, this breaking news about what Rezko is singing to the Feds about makes us reconsider all of that. Barack Obama will serve a prison sentence in the next few years — because knowing Fitzgerald, there is no reason he would be going through all of this if that was not the targeted goal in the long term.

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31 ..but when McCain says things like"beyond the pale", it's pretty hard to defend him against racism charges.

32 I took a long walk and I decided, "Hell, no. I'm not in trouble."

It wouldn't matter at all to me that Obama is 44% Arab. The fact is he is pals with two people who fund terrorist organizations who happen to fund Arab terrorists. One of those friends gave Obama enough money to be educated at Harvard. Why?

And, to bring Jindal in this, is ridiculous. I have been following Jindal since he hit the scene. He does not have any friends who are known terrorists and he has not sat in a church for 20 years listening to a radical racist who hates America.

There. I feel better.

33 Because Obama made it a national issue that McCain didn't use the last debates to criticize Obama personally TO HIS FACE, and because McCain already spent the past two debates specifically answering the specific questions asked in the debate, if this is next debate is the last shot together, McCain really ought to dismiss the "debate" forum and attack Obama face-to-face in professional verbal combat.

It would be astonishing to see McCain follow Jesus' example face to face with Obama, "in the [media] synagogue, speaking as one having authority, not as the scribes and pharisees [bloviating senators]."

THAT is what would grab the audience and shake the media to their core. That is exactly what the media demanded of McCain following the 2nd debate when they refused to acknowledge that McCain won the 'DEBATE'. That is exactly what Americans are waiting to have happen before engaging in political combat themselves. It's called "follow the leader," Senator McCain. Show us.

34 Wow ... check out the video on hillbuzz today.

35 Keep up your chins, boys and girls. Dirty Harry has an interesting POV:  http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4960

36 Want to second comments 27 & 29. I was going to post this on the PUMA thread (which is gold, by the way) yesterday, but didn't have time:

This may be tricky territory, so I'm not sure, but I wouldn't mind seeing some jujitsu from McCain/Palin on the race card. (Perhaps in an interview-- since it's the media that keeps bringing it up.) Take the card away from them-- point out how the cynical misuse & abuse of "racism" to deflect political criticism offensively trivializes real racism, is an insult to those who have suffered real racism, is damaging to our body public, race relations, etc., is the lowest kind of smear of your opponent, and of course distracts from important issues. This may have some resonance among Clintonians too (since Clinton really did seem to care, in good faith, about race relations, and used his presidency to address it-- only to be accused, outrageously, of racism by the Obama camp).

37 I don't think McCain will attack Obama over Wright, and here's why: You can't point a finger at Obama and say his actions are despicable without also pointing at every other black person in that church, including Obama'a wife. Just think how that will go over.

38 MCPO: Thanks for the link!

39 Oh now who is fueling hate..
http://tinyurl.com/4a8l5l

Guess the GOP will now be called racist for having security against ACORN at their offices in 5...4...3...

40 Hmm.

So my
WHAT'S BLACK
AND WHITE
AND RED
ALL OVER?
BARACK OBAMA!

picket sign might be construed as insensitive?

41 the hateful rhetoric

...Which I won't mention in specific here or people will hear about stuff I want silenced at all costs.

42 I don't think McCain will attack Obama over Wright, and here's why: You can't point a finger at Obama and say his actions are despicable without also pointing at every other black person in that church, including Obama'a wife. Just think how that will go over.

Stuff like that would assure Obama of 95% of the black vote.

43 real men with balls would slay Mr. Hopenchange on this.\


The media is going to be anti-Mac, so why not be so damn audacious that they have to report what you say?

If I had my campaign strategy working this I'd be crazy over the top, especially with lines like Cindy's the other day.

"Barak gave a speech hoping for defeat, and when that defeat was snatched by the jaws of victory, he tried to browbeat the commander in charge of creating victory (listen to Obama's questioning of Patreaus.)

Barak has signaled that he values the support of domestic terrorists, is this the man you want fighting the war on terror?"

44 Just think how that will go over.

Ummm it would confirm that he's a black radical in the minds of independents and the middle politically in America?

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