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| Congressman John Lewis...You Know Who John McCain Kinda Reminds Me Of? George Wallace.At one point John Lewis was an important and courageous figure in America. Now he's just a fucking hack politician who will smear someone who has the temerity to be a Republican and run against Barack Obama. "What I am seeing reminds me too much of another destructive period in American history," Lewis said in a statement issued today. "Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division, and there is no need for this hostility in our political discourse." Lewis didn't accuse McCain of imitating Wallace, but suggested there were similarities. "George Wallace never threw a bomb," Lewis noted. "He never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged vicious attacks against innocent Americans who were simply trying to exercise their constitutional rights. Because of this atmosphere of hate, four little girls were killed on Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama." ...“As public figures with the power to influence and persuade, Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are playing with fire, and if they are not careful, that fire will consume us all," Lewis said today. "They are playing a very dangerous game that disregards the value of the political process and cheapens our entire democracy. We can do better. The American people deserve better.”Does pointing out that Barack Obama has ties to a domestic terrorist make you racist? Apparently. Does pointing out the Barack Obama has ties to some of the most leftwing groups in America make you a racist? Apparently. Does pointing out that had we followed Barack Obama's advice we'd have handed Iraq to Islamic terrorists make you a racist? Again, apparently. Unless Lewis and the other far left hacks can point to something McCain or Palin has specifically said that is racist or echoes Wallace and other segregationists they need to shut up. They are simply devaluing the concept of racism and exposing themselves as people who are not interested in racial equality but rather using quasi-fascist tactics to shut down any debate. That's a concept that's far more repugnant than anything McCain or Palin have ever said or done. Oh and do enjoy this bit of tasty bipartisanship. At the Saddleback Church event, McCain listed Lewis as one of the 3 people he would seek advice from. How's that reaching across the aisle working out for you Mav? One other thought...By your own 'logic' what kind of "conditions" are you creating Congressman Lewis when you compare McCain to Wallace? Are you suggested someone should take a shot at him like they did at Wallace? Really you son of a bitch, is that what you think should happen? Come on tell us. Of course as Ace has pointed out many times, the left is only worried about violence when they imagine it's directed at them. Cheer leading for violence aimed at the right, it is simply another tactic. More: Having calmed down a bit Lewis is making me almost sadder than he did mad when I first saw this. He knows what segregationist did and believed. He very nearly died standing up to them. Lewis was an American hero before I was even born and for him to throw it away and to say things he has to say in his heart are not even remotely true and will only stir up the anger and resentment he decries and fought against is an American tragedy. I have a confession...if Obama were simply a Hillary, Kerry or Biden liberal or Chicago machine hack I'd probably vote for him simply because electing an African-American President of the United States would be worth it (we're going to have liberal Presidents, it's just the way the world works). The problem is Obama isn't a conventional liberal, he's a leftist who has hidden any trail of his prior beliefs and associations. Quite simply, McCain may not be affraid of him as President but I sure as hell am.Comments1
If Obama is elected, there isn't going to be racism in four years. If everything's racist, then nothing's racist. Posted by: Lee at October 11, 2008 03:46 PM (TxTIh) 2
John Lewis can fudge himself. He should take the advice of his great friend MLK and judge Obama by the content of his character and not the color of his skin.
What IS racist is comparing a guy like McCain to Wallace.(wallace was a democrat anyhow) I lost all respect for him when he turned his back on hillary in the primary's back in february. He is a sell out and is being a race-hustler. Posted by: ppp at October 11, 2008 03:47 PM (zzms8) 3
Slublog needs to get the Nov 5 Photoshop ready. It will be all the talking heads- Matthews, Olberman, Gibson, Couric, etc.- with a giant "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" banner behind them.
Posted by: Jones at October 11, 2008 03:51 PM (VkNlv) 4
A lot of the heroes of the civil rights movement have gone insane (at least in the mouth) over the last few years. It's really sad for me. Posted by: IreneFingIrene at October 11, 2008 03:52 PM (Zhcqc) 5
Lewis. Isn't he the guy that says "Sharks trail slave ships from one edge of the Atlantic to the other, ... Jamaica from feeding on human carcasses tossed overboard en route"
Heart in the right place overall but sees racism in every white man's heart. Posted by: locus ceruleus at October 11, 2008 03:53 PM (e2mBS) 6
"Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and
division, and there is no need for this hostility in our political
discourse.
Oh, so just running against Obama is raaaaacist now, huh? Fuck you, Lewis. Lee in comment #1 is right...when everything's racist, nothing's racist. Posted by: Eric at October 11, 2008 03:54 PM (wM/aS) Posted by: Raoul Ortega at October 11, 2008 03:55 PM (9p0nw) 8
Does it sink in to McCain that his efforts to reach across the aisle are generally worthless? He lauds this jackass Lewis at Saddleback and this is the thanks he gets. He suggests that Andrew Cuomo would be a good SEC chairman, and then we get that vid of Cuomo extolling the virtues of affirmative action in mortgage lending. Maybe this week he can say what a great guy he thinks Scott Levenson is.
Posted by: BrianBoru at October 11, 2008 03:55 PM (IR2EX) 9
It is becoming more apparent each day. John McCain has been left behind. No one wants the bipartisanship that he offers. Even if he is elected, all eyes will be on Palin. I think the Democrats are deflecting. Since it is quite obvious that they are dependent upon racism to propel their candidate, they are accusing the Republicans of racism so that they can deflect any future charges of racism on their part. "If we are racists, it is because the Republicans made us this way." This has been the most racist campaign I have ever seen, and it is all black racism. Posted by: Harry at October 11, 2008 03:56 PM (eN3BI) 10
Lee, i agreee. After this election White foks are going to laugh at the claim of racism. It is just a tool for these assclowns and no one is buying it anymore. If we are all so fucking racist why is the Halfrican a nominee? THis is the type of shit that pisses me off to no end. I had a guy over earlier and i always argue with him over Obama. He had the nerve to say he wonders if my opposition is not racial. I ripped him a new asshole. I grew up and am friends with nearly every AA in my town. A coulple of my closest friends are AA's and i have lived with an AA. The idea you cannot disagree with a black man is racism or bigotry is a joke. Racism will stop when the victimiztion of their own poeple by their so called leaders stops and they let them excel and tell them their able to do anything instead of telling them they can only do what us whitey's let them. Look at Reverand Wright. Obama going to that church for twenty years proves he has a deep hatred for whites and is the biggest racist to run for office. It is utter nonsense and a desperate ploy. All these race-hustlers can eat a dick up until they hiccup. Posted by: ppp at October 11, 2008 03:56 PM (zzms8) Posted by: Sharon at October 11, 2008 03:56 PM (vtZu6) 12
There's no way they could get away with these false cries of racism if the MSM wasn't providing cover fire for them. Posted by: IreneFingIrene at October 11, 2008 03:58 PM (Zhcqc) 13
Awesome, just now on the CBS Georgia/Tennessee Broadcast; they showed a lady with a "Dawgs love McCain sticker"
Posted by: lorien1973 at October 11, 2008 03:59 PM (ddGv/) 14
John Lewis is the jackass that said the sharks are still swimming around awaiting the next 100 gazillion slaves tossed overboard. What a complete buffoon. These democrats just project their beliefs onto their adversaries. He hopes there are riots so Obama can institute martial law and confiscate the guns. Posted by: billypaintbrush at October 11, 2008 03:59 PM (Ax2p+) 15
Funny... I read this about Lewis and didn't react negatively at all. Zero on the emotional register. I think it's finally sunk in for me: This is all these people do.
They're all offense, all the time. As they have no capacity to actually /do/ anything to improve America, they are left with smearing, lying, cheating and employing other agitator tactics. There really isn't any difference between Rep. Lewis and the Klan leaders of yesteryear, other than they have substituted the poor rural whites with poor inner city mixed races. They're the party of the empty heads. We need to be done playing defense to their predictable trash. Play counter-offense. Their primary weakness is that they're all neck deep in corruption, perversions, addictions and other aspects that separate them from the common American. Posted by: redherkey at October 11, 2008 03:59 PM (kjqFg) 16
If he wants McCain to stay away from Laurel, why doesn't he just say so...
(It is true they let Arthur Bremer out of prison last November.) Posted by: Stephen at October 11, 2008 04:00 PM (k9CiU) 17
Admit it, if the stakes weren't so high we'd be laughing at McCain's discomfort right now. But, the stakes ARE so high.
Posted by: mrobvious at October 11, 2008 04:00 PM (KMcEY) 18
Let me get this straight: Senator Obama hangs out with terrorists who actually blew up Americans and he's a great guy but Senator McCain who condemns terrorists who kill people is a monster who is leading people on to racist violence?
Did I get that straight? Oh, and you can't post on the Politico page by the way. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 11, 2008 04:00 PM (0+Ggj) 19
And like the boy who cried wolf, when something that is racist does occur... That person who actually is victimized will have precious few folks willing to listen or care. Posted by: Lee at October 11, 2008 04:01 PM (TxTIh) 20
I FUCKING HATE! This shit! White Male Republicans are Racist, White Female Republicans are Racist, and not real Women, Black male Republicans are Uncle Toms(and thats the NICE term), Black Female Republicans are Aunt Jemimahs (again the nice term) and still not real women. I would like the democrats to take a poll of the women I have stuck my dick in, and damn near married over the last 12 years. FUCK YOU DEM'S! I'm not racist, You are, with your manipulation of "need" creating a dependant grievance culture in the black community to the point that you get 90% of the black vote. Because 'pubs get 55% of the WHITE vote, we are racist, but 90% of the black vote doesn't count, and exonnerates you of accountability? I hate these fuckers, I fucking hate them. Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 11, 2008 04:02 PM (ul7te) 21
There are two clearly coordinated efforts by Axelrod and the Media:
1.) Whenever John McCain says something positive about someone on the otherside of the aisle they will eventually trot this person out to say something to piss off the conservative base. It's deliberate. Every. Single. One of them. 2.) Infiltrating McPalin rallies/town halls to "create news". They are creating news, now. They have taken their astroturfing to rallies (nothing new). There is nothing genuine about it. These are hard, hard lefty tactics and they are employing the Media directly. Have no doubts about it. This is what it tells you - they do not believe they are on their way to a win. Neither does the media. They understand the Ayers stuff is hitting it's target. They know it's only the tip of the iceberg as far as "associations" go. Posted by: Editor at October 11, 2008 04:04 PM (p4YSL) 22
I'm convinced The One is running ads in liberal slam dunk States like Connecticut because he's depending on a margin of victory so great that he cram EVERY lefty program down our throats using his historical mandate.
Posted by: Winston at October 11, 2008 04:04 PM (8xN9x) 23
Editor, I honestly think that the stupid woman calling Obama an arab terrorist, was sincere. RETARDED, but sincere. Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 11, 2008 04:05 PM (ul7te) Posted by: Ack at October 11, 2008 04:06 PM (AGTgg) 25
Editor/WP...
Just a note, that old lady never said 'terrorist' she said Arab and McCain grabbed the mic (and to his credit) corrected her. The terrorist part was just something lefties threw in to goose the story. I'm sure whoever did it first is in the line to head the Ministry of Truth in Obama's administration. Posted by: DrewM. at October 11, 2008 04:07 PM (hlYel) 26
All I can say is ... WTF? Nothing in this election year surprises me anymore. Nothing. Nadda. Zero. Ziltch.
Here's what is going to happen the day after BO takes office: http://www.jibjab.com/view/140957 Posted by: kimberly_aka_kimbery_aka_awesomekimberly at October 11, 2008 04:08 PM (Rpam5) 27
As an Alabamian who attended universities with buildings named after Mr. Wallace, who has seen his name constantly throughout my school history textbooks and literature, who has seen the good things people with horrible views can do, and the bad things that people with wonderful views can do, I'd just like to say this.
John Lewis, GO FUCK YOURSELF. Thank you. Posted by: Ack at October 11, 2008 04:08 PM (AGTgg) 28
I read the Turner Diaries a while back. Now that guy was a racist. Of course so was everybody else in the story. In fact, they were being rounded up for that. Posted by: Wilhelm Klink at October 11, 2008 04:12 PM (8D00g) 29
No she wasn't. There isn't a single fucking person who has ever said he was an Arab.
It was complete contrived, unadulterated bullshit. By the way, I never said she mentioned "terrorist". Don't know where that came from. Posted by: Editor at October 11, 2008 04:13 PM (p4YSL) 30
Dear Rep. lewis, Senator McCain is a decent and honorable man. In no way shape or form is he anything like wallace. You sir, are a coward for even thinking so. Signed KCLady Posted by: KCLady at October 11, 2008 04:14 PM (4eYzF) 31
Funny, Lewis talking about how Wallace never threw a bomb. Yeah, we'll leave that to Obama's friends. Sorry, I know I'm playing with fire, here, inciting and everything......................
Posted by: sears poncho at October 11, 2008 04:15 PM (F0d04) 32
Lewis is a racist trying to incite a race war. The guy is a freaking idiot.
Posted by: rplat at October 11, 2008 04:15 PM (Qrnps) 33
And so it begins RNC Announces New Security Measures Following Violence & Vandalism Contact: Republican National Committee Press Office, WASHINGTON, Oct. 11 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairman Robert M. "Mike" Duncan released the following statement today in response to attacks against Republican volunteers and supporters, and acts of vandalism against Republican Victory centers "There is no place for violence, vandalism, or intimidation in politics. As a result of violence against Republican volunteers and supporters, and acts of vandalism against Republican Victory centers, the RNC has redirected funds previously allocated for get-out-the-vote (GOTV) efforts -- totaling at least two millions dollars -- for 24-hour security at volunteer centers across the country. We are making this investment in protective security because our staff and volunteers deserve to know they are safe as they work to elect the next President of the United States. "I am appalled that the RNC must take this action. The fraudulent activities of ACORN combined with thuggish behavior of intimidation, violence, and vandalism on the part of others are clear signs that our opponents don't believe in free and fair elections. Posted by: William Amos at October 11, 2008 04:15 PM (3O/RE) 34
Did I mention that I absolutely can not stand the Democrats? Posted by: Harry at October 11, 2008 04:17 PM (eN3BI) Posted by: Gran at October 11, 2008 04:18 PM (mTWN+) 36
Editor,
Watch the video at about 57 seconds. She says 'He's an Arab' but McCain gets in their quick to stop her for making a bigger fool of herself. Posted by: DrewM. at October 11, 2008 04:19 PM (hlYel) 37
Ok, I'll say it.
Barack Hussein Obama is 44% ARAB. All three of his names are ARABIC. He speaks ARABIC. He spent his spring break in Pakistan with ARABS (who the hell spends their spring break in the ME?) His Harvard education was funded by an ARAB. He's buddies with Khalidi, an ARAB, who has ties to the PLO. Oh, and did I mention, we are still fighting the GWOT? Posted by: kimberly_aka_kimbery_aka_awesomekimberly at October 11, 2008 04:19 PM (Rpam5) 38
This is an opportunity for Palin to accuse Obama and his allies of playing the race card. She should use Lewis in her stump speech; the media loves talking about race and the race card. She could also invoke HRC: "the media and Obama's allies from dailykos and moveon.org are playing the race card on us the same way they played it against Hillary Clinton, someone who spent her whole life fighting for civil rights." It's a good break from just focusing on Ayers and bring to light that asking questions of Obama's past and views is not racist. Posted by: Palin/Cantor 2012 at October 11, 2008 04:19 PM (JbTeQ) 39
I'm sure whoever did it first is in the line to head the Ministry of Truth in Obama's administration. I heard it on MSNBC, Sorry, should have known better. Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 11, 2008 04:20 PM (ul7te) 40
Will McCain make this Lewis comment an issue? That he responded suggests to me that he will. His demand that Obama repudiate Lewis tells me that Schmidt sees something here. The original race card controversy over the summer seemed to help McCain change the subject from Obama's trip to Europe and brought his numbers down. I hope Obama doesn't repudiate Lewis because that would probably end the storyline. Posted by: Palin/Cantor 2012 at October 11, 2008 04:21 PM (JbTeQ) 41
the racism thing has gotten pretty hysterical at this point...ya just gotta laugh.
I am glad hat mental ilness got passed in the congress to be included in healthcare...its obvious that there is a MAJOR mental disorder out there that we have LONG ignored....LIBERALISM that way of thinking is just TWISTED yo Posted by: christy at October 11, 2008 04:21 PM (fM0gW) 42
Totally off-topic, but I have to share/vent anyway. My husband just called me at work to tell me that Sarah Palin made an unexpected campaign stop at a fruit stand just a mile away from our house. Piper was there too and picked out a pumpkin. I missed the Barracuda and the Firestarter. Unbelievable. So sad.
Posted by: freemo at October 11, 2008 04:22 PM (XXdGo) 43
I've seen the video... over and over and over. I know what she says. I know she called him an Arab.
What I'm saying is that she didn't get that from anything other than her desire to "embarrass" McCain and paint republicans as ignorant dolts, to steal a term from Ace. Have you ever seen anyone claim Barry is an Arab? Yeah - me either, except for this astroturfer. Posted by: Editor at October 11, 2008 04:22 PM (p4YSL) 44
Is there a volume filter? I didn't realize it was that long, sorry Ace, or was it doused for the word N@##r? It was in context. Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 11, 2008 04:22 PM (ul7te) 45
OMG, Drew. POTUS is not class president. You do not vote for someone because you think it is worth having a black man in the position.
Posted by: dave at October 11, 2008 04:23 PM (pKT9T) 46
Will McCain make this Lewis comment an issue? That he responded
suggests to me that he will. His demand that Obama repudiate Lewis
tells me that Schmidt sees something here. The original race card
controversy over the summer seemed to help McCain change the subject
from Obama's trip to Europe and brought his numbers down. I hope Obama
doesn't repudiate Lewis because that would probably end the storyline.
ALREADY HAS MADE IT AN ISSUE!!!!!!!! Posted by: PaRep at October 11, 2008 04:24 PM (dWdDN) 47
kimberly_aka_kimbery_aka_awesomekimberly,
Come on now. Look lets focus on something...so what if he is or was of Arabic ancestry? This is America, we don't hold it against people where their parents or other relatives are from. We do hold people accountable for their beliefs and actions. On those grounds there are plenty of reasons to oppose Obama. Who is father is isn't one of them. Bobby Jindal is a first generation Punjab. Do we hold the fact that Punjab separatists have committed terrorists acts against him? Would you let the Democrats get away with that? Posted by: DrewM. at October 11, 2008 04:25 PM (hlYel) 48
Kim, you are kidding right? *crosses fingers*
Posted by: Editor at October 11, 2008 04:26 PM (p4YSL) 49
Obama being black doesnt turn me off its his RED (Communist) economic policies that I dislike
Posted by: William Amos at October 11, 2008 04:26 PM (3O/RE) 50
Yeah, but he can go further; will Palin bring it up at her fundraiser set to start in an hour? Will it be discussed on sunday morning by McCain surrogates? Will Palin bring it up on the stump? Ayers was getting kind of tedious but the anti-race card route may be the correct tactic to go with for the next couple news cycles until McCain hopefully gets a brain and ends the Wright moratorium. Posted by: Palin/Cantor 2012 at October 11, 2008 04:27 PM (JbTeQ) 51
>Oh, and did I mention, we are still fighting the GWOT? Until January 20, 2009. That's when the war ends. It will be in all the papers. Posted by: Jones at October 11, 2008 04:27 PM (VkNlv) 52
The long winded comment I made that used the word "NWER" and was eaten, is on topic for the purposes of showing how I can disagree with you DrewM. It was one of my "true stories" only this time it was almost entirely true. Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 11, 2008 04:28 PM (ul7te) 53
"I hope Obama doesn't repudiate Lewis because that would probably end the storyline."
This is not the John Lewis I knew. Rev up the bus... Posted by: Barack Obama at October 11, 2008 04:29 PM (qsGH+) 54
White Male Republicans are Racist, White Female Republicans are Racist,
and not real Women, Black male Republicans are Uncle Toms(and thats the
NICE term), Black Female Republicans are Aunt Jemimahs (again the nice
term) and still not real women.
And then there's me who, apparently, doesn't actually exist. After all, nothing about me is real, not my sex, not my sexuality, apparently nothing at all. Well, riddle me fucking this. If I don't exist, why does the IRS keep taking all that money out of my paycheck? I'll admit it, it's getting to me. It truly is. It's wearing to hear over and over and over again what a hateful bigot I am. The fact that it is demonstrably untrue appears to be irrelevant. I keep trying to remind myself that the point of such vituperation is to get me to give up and withdraw. However, it's not working. Of course, some of that hormonal which is really really stupidly ironic since supposedly I'm not actually a woman. Can someone please tell my uterus that, kthnxbai. Posted by: alexthechick at October 11, 2008 04:30 PM (pldpJ) 55
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 11, 2008 04:28 PM (ul7te)
I didn't touch it. I don't know if it was a filter or a trollbuster but wicked, context or not please don't go there. You know the policy here and have run up against it before, it's not new and it hasn't changed. I don't want to have to sit here and babysit a thread all night (I'm not talking about you but in general). Posted by: DrewM. at October 11, 2008 04:33 PM (hlYel) 56
Vituperation. Ms $5 dollar word McUserton. Here I am playing with my own feces and you toss out Vituperation. GOOD ON YOU! Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 11, 2008 04:33 PM (ul7te) 57
"My Friends, do we want for the next four years to be constantly labelled racist for any legitimate criticism we make of our Commander in Chief? I respect Sen. Obama, but the constant playing of the race card by his campaign may only worsen our racial relation in this great republic. Just yesterday, Rep. Lewis..." Or something like that for McCain to say. Posted by: Lee at October 11, 2008 04:34 PM (TxTIh) 58
I know Drew, thats why I'm not complaining, I was just curious, especially after the explosion a week or so ago. And it really was in context, I don't see how anyone could find it offensive. Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 11, 2008 04:34 PM (ul7te) 59
Palin: "We haven't seen the race card played for such ominous purposes since Johnny Cochran and OJ Simpson did it in 1995." Now that would news wouln't it? Drudge hasn't picked up this story; McCain should go all-in on Lewis for three days if Obama doesn't respond. If Obama does repudiate Lewis, we may just have to drop it as that would be pretty keen political move. Posted by: Palin/Cantor 2012 at October 11, 2008 04:36 PM (JbTeQ) 60
And thanks for thinking about answering my curiousity. Good guy you are drew, all nice, and polite, with soft skin, and a silky voice. . . Okay too much. Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 11, 2008 04:36 PM (ul7te) 61
The media has wrecked the economy, jiggered the polls, committed journalistic malpractice to make McCain and Palin look stupid and Obama and Biden(!) look smart. But it is not going to work. Americans are beginning to notice the smell of corruption that seems to linger around Obama. I can't wait to see Katie's and Chrissie's sad faces the morning after the election. Posted by: sherlock at October 11, 2008 04:38 PM (ojW85) 62
it's just another sign the Obamatrons Know they are in DEEP, DEEP KIMCHEE !!!
Whenever John Lewis goes into Hyperbole Overdrive he knows he is on the losing side Remember the John Lewis they're coming for us, They're coming for our children during the debate on passing the Contract with America Posted by: PaRep at October 11, 2008 04:38 PM (dWdDN) Posted by: ChangeUCantBelieveIn at October 11, 2008 04:40 PM (bW4Qp) 64
Wake up White Man!!!
Posted by: D Carver at October 11, 2008 04:40 PM (PfmeB) 65
Uh oh. Am I in trouble?
Okay. Maybe my paranoia was setting in on overdrive. I wasn't saying it in a racist way. I just can't get Osama's words out of my head ... next time, the attack will come from within. A few of my friends have wondered, "Is Obama the Manchurian candidate? Is he the attack from within?" I have often wondered that myself. Is that wrong? There's so many questions unanswered about Obama. And, unfortunately, so little time. God, I can't wait until the election is OVER. Posted by: kimberly_aka_kimbery_aka_awesomekimberly at October 11, 2008 04:45 PM (Rpam5) 66
I have accepted that I am a racist. Yep. I've been in denial for a long, long time because I didn't want to see myself in such an ugly light. But know I see it. I see the deep, suppressed resentment every time I'm faced with a black socialist politician. The violent revulsion when I read about a black radical racist preacher. I even despise black supremicist organizations. Yep, I'm a racist. I feel better now. You should all try to emrace your inner racist. You'll feel better too. Posted by: kidney at October 11, 2008 04:47 PM (QAdII) 67
I don't think going hard against Lewis would be a likely winner. "McCain Attacks Civil Rights Hero", anyone? Of course, that was the calculation in putting Lewis up to this in the first place.
Posted by: anonymous irishman at October 11, 2008 04:47 PM (RctG8) 68
Good lord my spelling is horrendous. My appologies.
Posted by: kidney at October 11, 2008 04:50 PM (QAdII) 69
Uh oh. Am I in trouble?
No. You just got smacked in the head with the PC bat by someone who stated race is a factor for him when deciding who to vote for POTUS. So, take it for what its worth. Posted by: dave at October 11, 2008 04:51 PM (pKT9T) Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 11, 2008 04:57 PM (ul7te) 71
Oh, also, drew, I part of the reason I was curious, I've been filtered out a number of times in the last couple weeks, cuz of links (not pron) and stuff, this one just threw me off.
Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 11, 2008 05:00 PM (ul7te) 72
You just got smacked in the head with the PC bat by someone who stated
race is a factor for him when deciding who to vote for POTUS.
Either you're shocked at the thought that anyone could give any consideration at all to the race of a political candidate or you think it's fine to shout that that candidate is a filthy ay-rab. Those are mutually exclusive positions. Posted by: anonymous irishman at October 11, 2008 05:04 PM (RctG8) 73
McCain's response:
“Congressman John Lewis’ comments represent a character attack against Governor Sarah Palin and me that is shocking and beyond the pale. The notion that legitimate criticism of Senator Obama’s record and positions could be compared to Governor George Wallace, his segregationist policies and the violence he provoked is unacceptable and has no place in this campaign. I am saddened that John Lewis, a man I’ve always admired, would make such a brazen and baseless attack on my character and the character of the thousands of hardworking Americans who come to our events to cheer for the kind of reform that will put America on the right track.
“I call on Senator Obama to immediately and personally repudiate these outrageous and divisive comments that are so clearly designed to shut down debate 24 days before the election. Our country must return to the important debate about the path forward for America.”
Posted by: Mark1971 at October 11, 2008 05:09 PM (bdnA9) 74
Those are mutually exclusive positions.
You really think so? Personally, I think black/white racial issues have a special place in the American experience both for better and worse. It strikes me as incredibly naive to think that electing a black man President of the United States would be of no import to this country. Now, that's based on a few things. The first is that the candidacy be truly post-racial. Obama promised that but hasn't delivered it. Obviously it's been quite the opposite. Secondly as I said the candidate would have to be within the mainstream of political thought. Again, Obama clearly isn't. Would I vote for any black candidate? Since I'm not voting for Obama, no. Would I vote for a black mainstream liberal over a great conservative? No. Would I vote for a black mainstream liberal over McCain? As I said, probably. Of course I would have voted for any mainstream liberal over McCain, so do with that what you will. Posted by: DrewM. at October 11, 2008 05:15 PM (hlYel) 75
Obama backed Lewis: "Sen. Obama does not believe that John McCain or his policy criticism is in any way comparable to George Wallace or his segregationist policies. But John Lewis was right to condemn some of the hateful rhetoric that John McCain himself personally rebuked just last night, as well as the baseless and profoundly irresponsible charges from his own running mate that the Democratic nominee for president of the United States ‘pals around with terrorists.’ As Barack Obama has said himself, the last thing we need from either party is the kind of angry, divisive rhetoric that tears us apart at a time of crisis when we desperately need to come together. That is the kind of campaign Sen. Obama will continue to run in the weeks ahead." Hopefully there's fire with this angle. McCain should let Palin go off on this point. Posted by: Palin/Cantor 2012 at October 11, 2008 05:21 PM (JbTeQ) 76
Agreed Drew, Fact is, I would have no problem, NOT voting (can't vote FOR) if it helped hillary against McCain, even with Palin. But Obama? With a Democrat Congress? That is some HARD FUCKING TIMES, and Change you can believe in, but it is all Change that turns us into a Marxist nation. Posted by: Wickedpinto at October 11, 2008 05:24 PM (ul7te) 77
DrewM: I agree. I was about to add that they're not mutually exhaustive. You can believe neither, and that seems the sensible choice to me. It was dave's argument that I was unhappy with.
Posted by: anonymous irishman at October 11, 2008 05:27 PM (RctG8) 78
That response from McCain is PERFECT!
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I think it's reasonable and non-hypocritical...
I think it’s unreasonable and hypercritical and you trying to spin that it is not is also hypercritical and unconvincing. If you think it is legit to vote for somebody because they are black then don’t complain when someone votes for someone else because they are white. Obama is half arab and identifies with arabs, and he vacations with arabs in Pakistan, his education was funded by arabs, and he’s buddy with an arab who has ties to an arab terrorist organization. And all of these arab connections are non-American. It is not unreasonable for anyone to be concerned about his loyalties and biases. So, don't play PC games and tell me these are not legitimate considerations. You have no right to insult Kim or get on my case because I think it is ridiculous to vote for obama because he is black. I wasn't referring to the woman at the rally, I was talking about kim above, who was indeed SHOUTING IN CAPS about how Obama was an ARAB, an ARAB. I was being snarky, not dishonest. She never referred to anyone as s a “filty ay-rab.” And trying to spin it as snark does not give you a pass. It just makes you even more dishonest. Posted by: dave at October 11, 2008 09:17 PM (pKT9T) 99
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