How Gallup Chose Its "Undecided" Voters

CLARK [an "undecided" voter at the townhall]: So the Sunday before last, I received a call from the Gallop Poll. They asked a few questions regarding my choice in the Presidential election. They asked who I would vote for. I said most likely I would be voting for Barack Obama. They followed with, “is there any chance that you would change your mind“? I said “Of course anything is possible.” They then asked me as an uncommitted voter would I like to participate in the Town hall debate. I said “Of course!”
MSNBC's First Read found this, but they didn't highlight the part where Clark said he was essentially supporting Obama and then was picked. They decided to flag this part where Mr.Clark speculates McCain is racist because McCain suggested the American public may not be familiar with how exactly Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac worked.

Posted by: Ace at 05:14 PM

Comments

1 I am shocked.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 09, 2008 05:17 PM (wgLRl)

2 My faith in pollsters is shattered

Posted by: toby928 at October 09, 2008 05:19 PM (evdj2)

3 Say it aint so.

Posted by: KCLady at October 09, 2008 05:19 PM (Ami31)

4 Welcome to the future.

Posted by: lorien1973 at October 09, 2008 05:20 PM (IhQuA)

5 When all those illegal immigrants joyfully cross the border during The Messiah Administration, they'll probably be treated as "undecided" voters as well.

Posted by: Justnashole at October 09, 2008 05:22 PM (uAytX)

6 If Gallup wanted you to have an opinion, they would have issued you one. And apparently they did.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 09, 2008 05:22 PM (DVVXZ)

7 Gallup is awesome!

Posted by: Awesome Happy Fun Guy! at October 09, 2008 05:25 PM (eOEgY)

8 It's racist of you to post this on a respected conservative moron blog, Ace.

Posted by: Prufrock at October 09, 2008 05:25 PM (vISQb)

9 I watched the last debate on CNN - don't get FOX in Canada on regular cable.

Watching the lines on the bottom from the group they had assembled you could see the fix was in. When Bambi spoke the women's line usually went up quickly and straight-lined at the top. To get that result you would have to have a group with 90% Obambi voters. This happened too many times to be a fluke. The fix was in... naturally.

Posted by: joeblow at October 09, 2008 05:25 PM (jxXOI)

10 I feel a bit better about the polls then. Note how the "undecided voter" from the townhall interviewed by MSNBC ends his interview:

Peace and Love,

Heh.

Posted by: Benson at October 09, 2008 05:27 PM (qzcNU)

11
So... he's an undecided Obama voter?

Posted by: Gran at October 09, 2008 05:28 PM (PgvAT)

12 Whateva.

They were wearing white sheets and burning crosses at the McCain/Palin rallies, yesterday.

Posted by: Andrea Mitchell at October 09, 2008 05:29 PM (wuRPB)

13 #12

And they were trying to flush Qur'ans down toilets.

No, really.

Posted by: Michael Isikoff at October 09, 2008 05:31 PM (PgvAT)

14 Frank Luntz's post-debate group of undecideds from Arlington, Virginia was a little weird as well- it's a very dem town filled with federal workers.

Posted by: Matt at October 09, 2008 05:31 PM (ecpMe)

15 In all fairness ace, I think you should cut Gallup some slack.

I mean, how can you expect a voter to choose between Awesome and Awesome?

Posted by: Awesome Happy Fun Guy! at October 09, 2008 05:34 PM (eOEgY)

16 He sounds like my boss, who says he's an "independent" voter, then in the nest sentence, he says he always votes for the Democratic candidates.

No, he does not see the contradiction.

Posted by: OregonMuse at October 09, 2008 05:38 PM (FO+YO)

17 And our friends on the left were upset that Luntz's group at the VP debate were at an Anheuser Busch facility, thinking Cindy bought them off with family beer.

Posted by: thirtypundit at October 09, 2008 05:42 PM (vP7cE)

If you follow through to his page, you will note that they called on his cell phone. No sense contacting any of those dinosaurs that still use land lines.

Posted by: Mike at October 09, 2008 05:43 PM (HI21U)

19 Off topic ... Naomi Wolf still looking kinda cute for being almost 50, and still batshit insane:

http://is.gd/3NcY

Posted by: Rajiv Vindaloo at October 09, 2008 05:49 PM (Rn2+D)

20 He sounds like my boss, who says he's an "independent" voter, then in the nest sentence, he says he always votes for the Democratic candidates.

Meh, I consider myself an independent voter, too, and am registered that way. I do consider myself a conservative, though - I often vote for Republicans, but sometimes I vote for (conservative) Democrats, or even libertarians if they're more in line with my principles than either big-ticket candidate. I suppose there are also "progressive" independents, like the New Party people, or Joementum.

It sounds like in this case, though, they were just looking for Progressive Independents and not Conservative Independents. What are the bets that Gallup does this with their national polling as well? And that's in addition to the bogus sampling weights. No wonder they're such an outlier with the national Presidential poll. They are destroying their own credibility in an attempt to carry The One's rapidly cooling corpse over the finish line.

The polls are cooked, cooked, cooked. Ignore them and keep slugging. We can do it.

Posted by: Jim62sch at October 09, 2008 05:54 PM (ubHgw)

21 Does anyone really expect less from MSNBC? More Socialist Nimrods for Barack's "Change"

Posted by: James at October 09, 2008 05:58 PM (abHWU)

22 They also count those who are undecided as to whether they will vote for Obama more than once!

Posted by: dfbaskwill at October 09, 2008 06:01 PM (z6fKT)

23 these polls are designed and rigged to keep you home. the real poll is nov 4th.

Posted by: spear at October 09, 2008 06:01 PM (JKD+x)

24 I am an independent voter, I do not belong to any political party.
However, I always vote Republican and no (to tax increases).

Posted by: Marvin at October 09, 2008 06:14 PM (zASnB)

25 Gallup acordding to one of the HACKS at RCP is the "GOLD STANDARD" of pollingm I heard that PUTZ Bevan say that today & I damn near choked to death on my donut & coffee Laughing

Posted by: PaRep at October 09, 2008 06:22 PM (dWdDN)

26 23 these polls are designed and rigged to keep you home. the real poll is nov 4th.

AbsoFUCKINlutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: PaRep at October 09, 2008 06:23 PM (dWdDN)

27 And our friends on the left were upset that Luntz's group at the VP debate were at an Anheuser Busch facility, thinking Cindy bought them off with family beer.

Really? Crap, why wasn't I chosen for this poll?

Posted by: OregonMuse at October 09, 2008 06:39 PM (FO+YO)

Has anyone on any blog Googled the participants' names to see how many (as happened for one in 2006) were actually card-carrying Dems?

Posted by: andycanuck at October 09, 2008 07:24 PM (Mhm4L)

29 "Undecided" = don't know if they'll be early voting for Obama or voting for Obama on election day

Posted by: Purple Avenger at October 09, 2008 10:01 PM (Xl9pj)

Gallop polled me also.

A poll on the enjoyability of Herpes.

I told them I was a comitted Herpes Hater.....when they asked if I was completely sure, I responded...."Well, I suppose I could change my mind, I mean...anything is possible!!"...

Then they asked me if I'd like to participate in a TownHall as someone yet undecided of the enjoyability of Herpes, I said..."Hey....Hell Yes!!"

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31 They're undecided only on up which leg the thrill goes highest.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 10, 2008 12:00 AM (sI5Ho)

32 "Undecided" = don't know if they'll be early voting for Obama or voting for Obama on election day

Or both, its a tripart confusion

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