1 Attempting to extend this realtionship back to the mid eighties is just icing on the cake. What they did years later together and in open support of each other is what's important. It matters less how ong they knew each other, but that the Ayers was unrepentant during the entire time they associated - and Ayers the ideologue would not be around people who fundamentally disagreed with him, including Obama.

2 This is not the neighbor I thought I knew.

3 Drip, drip, drip. The undecideds have to be feeling a little uncomfortable about all this.

4 Thank God McCain is doing this; he's fighting.

Would I like a more charismatic GOP candidate to oppose Obama? As someone who cares about the trajectory of my country's biggest military ally, trading partner, and only neighbour, damn right.

However. He's being honest with the American electorate. He's saying the truth about what Obama is... a liar... a radical... someone who has knowingly associated with terrorists, then minimized it... and McCain is offering the alternative of himself, an imperfect servant who spent five and a half years in a POW camp on behalf of his country building his character while his body was broken. Then reaching across the isle to assist President Clinton in normalizing relations with the North Vietnmamese, his former tormenters.

The contrast is so stark. If the American people choose Obama they will only have themselves to blame for the dark consequences because McCain told them. He told them.

I'm very proud of him today.

5 It will be interesting to hear how O! tries to explain this away. Here comes Captain Bullshit!

6 The length is important too.  Obama was very careful about the some-guy-in-his-neighborhood theme.  The longer the association, the bigger (and more calculated?) the lie.
I know the media has let him off for some pretty bald face statements such as his claim of the senate banking committee, but those were mostly attempts to gain positive spin from someone else.  This is something much more sinister.

7

it is in the EARLY 80's. Ayers and obama were BOTH attending columbia at the same time. Ayers was staying a couple blocks away from where obama was.

Dr.Diamond of Global Labor has all of the goods and info on this. Obama worked with ayers in the 80's on education during the infamous school wars of chicago.

At occidental Obama was a member of the SDS a radical left-wing socialist group that Ayers was also a part of. Frank Marshall Davis Obama's communist mentor thoughout his stay in Hawaii was from chicago and was a member of the communist party of america. Obama's whole life wreaks of radicalism.

As i said yesterday, go to therealbarrackobama.com and noquarter.com

It is all there with proof and the whole web of deceit.

 

Ayers is simply a warm up act. This is like a suspense thriller and after the last debate all of these roads will begin to intersect and it will be a jaw dropper.

It is all out there for everyone to know. Hannity's friends of obama show is stuff these sites have been on for months. Michelle is in several photo's with Farrakhan's wife. One of the big things that will come out is Obama and Louie are close.

Obama is a NOI plant. Reverand Wright's Black Liberation Theology is alot more like the teachings of the NOI than christianity. Wright and Phlaeger have supported Farrakhan and even given awards to him. Farrakhan has been on the cover of wrights Trumpet magazine dozens of times.

A week before the election Obama will be shown for the danger he poses. THis is not just some loony leftist. He is a danger to america and what we all hold dear.

8 HotAir opined that it would be run as a TV ad, too, as a 90-second spot.

9

Ha!  Obama just called McCain out!

He said, "Hey, if McCain believes the stuff he's been saying about me...  Why didn't he say it to my face last Tuesday?"

10

Catching Obama in Lies about his relationship is important, it proves he has something to hide.

 

Now, how to communicate this in mass to voters through the MSM/COmmie Filter is the question here.

 

and what about the Odinga stuff, thats on fricking Tape and that Thug mass murdered thousands RECENTLY

11 Why hasn't some enterprising reporter trooped up to Bill Ayers' door and done one of those stock live-shot "refused to comment".  "We tried to ask Bill Ayers' about his relationship with Barack Obama, but Ayers' wasn't talking."  They would with anyone else.

Of course, they could just skip that and ask Barry O.

12 It'll probably never come out before the election, but I think American Thinker made an interesting case for a ghost writer to Obama's first book.

Why the hell doesn't someone get Murtagh to stand for a Congressional election? If he wants it, he seems like a stand-up guy, strong, and a competent communicator.

13

There has to be video of Obama sitting in Trinity United clapping to Rev. Wright at some point, has to be.

No telling what all could come out soon on Zero

 

14 McCain's website lists it as a TV ad.

15 Linking Obama to terrorists and the dems to Soros is working.
The office obama supporters have been very quiet lately.

16

I'm liking, BUT...

I really think they should stop ignoring Ayers' wife, Bernadine Dohrn, for two reasons:

1. She went to jail rather than testify against COP-KILLERS...

2. ...in the 1980s. Not "way back in the 60s." The 1980s.

3. It was in her living room, too, that Obama launched his political career.

OK, three reasons.

17

"Drip, drip, drip. The undecideds have to be feeling a little uncomfortable about all this."

That would probably be true if the undecideds weren't the bunch of drooling morons they have to be to remain undecided this far out.  If you couldn't pick a side by now...I don't know what to say.

"Ha!  Obama just called McCain out!

He said, "Hey, if McCain believes the stuff he's been saying about me...  Why didn't he say it to my face last Tuesday?""

I hate hate HATE to say it, but B. Hussein's got a point.  McCain's bringing a knife to a gun fight.  He doesn't understand the Chicago way, which involves lying as much and as boldly the Clintons, but abetted by thugery that would make the Teamsters blush.

18

Posted by: CJ at October 09, 2008 11:22 AM (9KqcB)

Add to that list

4.  She's a fucking psychopath who chortled approvingly over the vicious murder of Sharon Tate and her unborn baby.  "Dig it! First they killed those pigs and then they put a fork in their bellies. Wild!"

19

Four reasons: She also celebrated the Manson murders.

Ace, I'm a little bit wary on that only because she has claimed for awhile that she was "joking." Hard to believe, but critics would zero in on that and push the rest aside. (I guess that would not be too bad. Duh)

"COP-KILLERS"...."1980s"....

Repeat.

20

Sooo, Barry flat out lied.

Where's the outrage again? I would tihnk that this lie is kinda important enough for the idiots in the media to maybe do a little digging on it, just a skosh, a tiny fig of investigative journalism, like they did about Palin's kid, just a little bit, a teeny weeny little mote of investigative journalism.

After all, those important fucks went to COLLEGE for that shit, they MUST be smart.

What a bunch of bullshit.

21 Here is Obama trying to wriggle out of it:

"Why don't we just clear it up right now," Obama told ABC News' Charlie Gibson in an exclusive interview for World News. "I'll repeat again what I've said many times. This is a guy who engaged in some despicable acts 40 years ago when I was eight years old. By the time I met him, 10 or 15 years ago, he was a college professor of education at the University of Illinois . . . And the notion that somehow he has been involved in my campaign, that he is an adviser of mine, that . . . I've 'palled around with a terrorist', all these statements are made simply to try to score cheap political points."

This clears up what? Who has ever said that Ayers was an adviser??? He's denying nothing about Ayers promoting him early in his political career.  He can't deny it. And what about New Party and Obama's socialist ties and lectures. Come on Charlie Gibson, where is your gotcha journalism now!

Obama is hiding something...its painfully obvious!

22

Obama sounds like he's in high school saying "why doesn't he say it to my face"

McCain should come out and say, my friends we are not in high school, when Obama says he wants me to say it to his face this sounds so childish. This is serious business folks. Not something for sound bites in a debate. Obama doesn't need to answer to me; he needs to tell the American People why he would associate himself with a terrorist. They are the ones that are important here, not me. They need to be told the truth. I already know what the truth is, and now it's time for the American public to hear straight for Senator Obama.

 

23 for=from

24 I would think Senator Obama's terrorist connections and his lies about the same are a national security threat. Why isn't the FBI investigating?

I suppose, not to be seen as political, they can't, but they should. I think Obama's a massive danger to liberty.

25

It doesn't matter how old Obama was when Ayers was at his most violent.  What matters is how old Obama was when he embraced Ayers and why he didn't recoil from his past.

I would have a hard time befriending a repentent terrorist, but Barry had no qualms about an unrepentent one.

Why is that?

26

the ad should have shown the ayers/obama school kids giving a UN/World pledge of allegiance or anthem and not American pledge or anthem.

 

also, mc cain should stop saying "my friends"

 

also, mc cain should always wear the flag pin,, now!!

 

 

27

A political sister of Ayers/Dohrn, Sara Jane Olson, pled guilty to two counts of possessing explosives with intent to murder….in 2001.

 

People don’t realize that this isn’t all “1960s” stuff. The crimes were committed in the 1970s and 1980s, with prosecutions running up into the current decade.

 

Regardless of who wins, the Ayers/Obama thing has ended the ability of Democrats to hang out with left-wing extremists and not get called on it. Which is a good thing.

28

Just keeps getting better.  At this rate we'll have the video footage of the singing Obama kids being taught the three finger "fork" salute by next Wednesday or so. 

"He's gonna bring chaa-aange . . .

He's gonna bring freeedom

Can you dig what they did to those pigs

Put a fork in their bell-lieees"

(adorable kid gives fork salute)

29 The ad does have the "I approve this message" thing, so it's more legit than just the web stuff.

Good to see they call out CAC's ideology, not just its existence.

30

We used to, as a country, view anti-American piece of shit like Ayers with scorn, as well as the scumbags who were part of their posse...

But now, we are told that we must embrace them, vote for them or else we will have riots, we are told that they are fucking mainstream, not to worry, anti-Communism is an outdated idea, there are no Communists...

The ones telling us that are Communists.

Fuck this shit.

31 I know:  Barry will appoint Ayers Attorney General.  That will prove to the electorate that he's not a criminal anymore.

32 The only thing wrong with the McCain ad, I think, is that they don't highlight the "stomping on the flag in 2001" pic enough.

33

McCain is once again fighting the Commies via the proxy of Smelly Barry and his bitch wife and fucked-in-the-head compatriots.

I bet he has to see this...he's not an idiot. Ayers was around back then, all of those assholes were. And they are behind Barry's facade now, pulling his smelly BO strings.

34

"why doesn't he say it to my face"

Yeah, I had the same "What is this, high school?" reaction. As a bonus, the question is usually meant as a threat but don't forget- McCain's a hothead.

35

Obama saying" say it to my face"

that is real presidential. This guy is an idiot.

Did obama say anything about Keating to McCain's face? oh i guess he is a pussy.

Obama is falling into the trap. McCain would have mentioned it if it would have come up. The town hall was not made for it. Obama NEVER says any of the bullshit lies his campaign is peddling.

The problem is it is the truth. Obama saying say it to my face sounds very childish and stupid. That is the lefts new meme. Why did obama not say anything about Keating? is he scared to say it to his face>

He sounds like some punk who is 15 years old.

36

The only thing wrong with the McCain ad, I think, is that they don't highlight the "stomping on the flag in 2001" pic enough.

I was just getting ready to say that. I know when I see that picture, it makes my blood boil. It would really have an impact here in my neighborhood. Almost every house on my block has the American flag waving from their porches. Even people that have obama signs in their yards.

37

Obama sounds like he's in high school saying "why doesn't he say it to my face"

I’ve been fantasizing about the following blast for awhile. One debate left to do it.

 

McCAIN: "Senator, this man, William Ayers, planted bombs in the U.S. Capitol, police stations, and the Pentagon. Now, fortunately, no one was hurt, but he brags about how that Pentagon bomb ‘disrupted the air war.’ Senator, those were my brothers risking their lives in that air war. I had already been shot down, but those were my brothers in arms that this Ayers fellow was proudly endangering. Senator, you sought the support of an unrepentant terrorist and his wife, who went to jail in the 1980s rather than testify against friends who murdered two police officers. Senator, you never should have set foot in that home."

38

The only thing wrong with the McCain ad, I think, is that they don't highlight the "stomping on the flag in 2001" pic enough.

I was just getting ready to say that.

Me too. That picture should be everywhere.

39

Ace, what spypeach says:

McCain should come out and say, my friends we are not in high school, when Obama says he wants me to say it to his face this sounds so childish. This is serious business folks. Not something for sound bites in a debate. Obama doesn't need to answer to me; he needs to tell the American People why he would associate himself with a terrorist. They are the ones that are important here, not me. They need to be told the truth. I already know what the truth is, and now it's time for the American public to hear straight for Senator Obama.

Rush should have Snurdley(sp?) do another From The Hood update today along these lines, too.

40

Leftists are children inside. No surprise that Barry is a friggin adolescent.

I mean, the guy is nothing! He has no substance at all.

And the shitheads who will vote for him are no better, they are unthinking morons.

41

Its so obvious why obama wants McCain to confront him face to face about the Ayers thing. obama wants to show the voters how McCain is a mean old man. obama wants McCain to lose his temper.

42 Remember, though, Barry can NEVER really come clean on Ayers if -- and it seems likely -- Ayers ACTUALLY WROTE OBAMA'S AUTOBIOGRAPHY.

43 funky chicken at Hot Air side it well this morning:

John McCain, who survived 5+ years of communist torture, and who has TWO YOUNG SONS in the US military, is not going to step aside and let the protege of William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn become Commander in Chief of US armed forces without a fight.

It remains to be seen whether republicans are willing to join with McCain in this fight for the soul of our nation, or are going to stand back and scream insults at McCain, refuse to vote for him, and thus defacto

ELEVATE A HARD CORE AMERICA HATING COMMUNIST ASSOCIATE/ACOLYTE TO THE OFFICE OF POTUS.

Those people who say, "Let McCain lose and we'll get Palin/Whomever in 4 years" are fools. Idiots. If America is leaning TOWARD electing a terrorist-associating Marxist now, what makes them think that after four years of that person in the White House, controlling the levers of power, you'll have anything like a free and fair election then?

44 "obama wants to show the voters how McCain is a mean old man. obama wants McCain to lose his temper."

We know exactly how McCain would say it, though -- the whole "more in sorrow than in anger" thing.  This works great when the facts are already out there, not so great for getting the facts out in the first place.  So good job if this ad can help prep the battlefield.

45 Good observation, someone @ 42.

46 Bring It On

47 I'm coming off again!!!

48 Just don't make me fight Palin! She scares me.

49 Allahpundit suggests that movement in the Gallup poll may tell us whether this Ayers stuff is helping or hurting McCain. I say, even if it looks bad at first, keep it up. Ayers and Obama's other radical associations will form a cumulative case. It's not a one shot pass/fail effort with Ayers.

50 "The acorn does not fall far from the tree"

51 32 The only thing wrong with the McCain ad, I think, is that they don't highlight the "stomping on the flag in 2001" pic enough.  "someone"   Amen. I have said do the ad with just that picture and a voice over. And as you describe the Obama-Ayers relationship just slowly pan and zoom in at his feet until the trampled flag and his shoes are all you see with the this man is Barack's mentor. Vote for the Hero - Not for the Zero

52 Yeah.  And after I take down the 72 year old, I'm going to Pakistan to kick some terrorist butt.

53 You want a piece of me?

54 "I have said do the ad with just that picture and a voice over."

The ad was fine. It's making a more detailed case. I'd make it with a long ad or series of ads, and then take that add's Ayers stamping on the flag scene, and then "swish" or blow it up into a big colour image with the music fading to nothing and the caption,

"OBAMA'S FRIEND"

... after establishing in the viewers' mind the fact Ayers' is a proud unrepentent former domestic terrorist with a terrorist wife, also a friend of the Obama's, and a Manson fan as well.

The flag is icing on that disgusting but necessary cake.

55

Reason 5 for Dohrn

She met Michelle Obama while both were working at Sidley Austin in the mid 1980s.

 

Reason 6 for Dohrn

She met Barack Obama while he was working as an intern for Sidley Austin

in the late 1980s.

Possible Reason 7

Did Dohrn introduce Michelle Obama and Barack Obama to the honchos at Sidley Austin as intern candidates based upon Ayers recommendations?

Possible Reason 8:

Ayers and Dohrn were friends with Edward Said at Columbia U. same time Obama was attending. Obama was a friend of radical pfakistinian professor Edward Said at Columbia U. Did Dohrn or Ayers introduce Obama to Said while Obama was a student attending Columbia U?

That would bring Obama's relationships with Dohrn and Ayers back to the early eighties and make it one of his longest lasting (25 years) relationship, and impossible to ignore.

Other interesting question,

Obama's first mentor was commie Frank Marshall, whom Obama refers to as his Uncle in his bio; had a jailbait sexual relationship with a fourteen year old white girl living in his town in Hawaii in the late 50s (Obama's mother's age at the time) as noted in his bio. Did Uncle Frank have contacts with Ayers? He certainly had Chicago contacts( and that is unexplored by the media as everything else having to do with Obama's history seems to be) which may be why Obama chose Chicago for his socialist activism. Did Uncle Frank make contacts for Obama's introduction there? Did Uncle Frank give Obama the street cred he needed in Chicago's rough and tumble corrupt world?

There is so much we don't know about Obama and what we do know is just so troubling that it is frightening that people will vote for that ONE (John McCain gave me permission to use that phrase) without knowing anything other than he speaks well from prepared texts and wants change. Well so did Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin and Chavez and Castro. But is that change you want to believe in?

 

 

 

56 It is well documented that when Obama went to Columbia he lived only 1/4 mile from Ayers.

Also while he was at Columbia Ayers was attending Banks College which is only 4 blocks away from Columbia.

After Banks Ayers taught at Columbia while Obama joined a business intelligence newsletter for about a year and then became a community organizer for a Ralph Nadar linked NY Public Interest Group.

Years in NYC as almost neighbors and nobody in the NYT or any of the local papers even want to take a look at the issue.

My money says they met back then.

Also this was the same time some ex weathermen and Black Panthers did the Armored Car heist attempt near NYC.

57

Remember, though, Barry can NEVER really come clean on Ayers if -- and it seems likely -- Ayers ACTUALLY WROTE OBAMA'S AUTOBIOGRAPHY.

I would not promote this allegation. Obama visited launched his political career in the home of an unrepentent terrorist and a woman who refused to testify against the murderers of two police officers.

That's a fact, a blistering, damaging fact. The authobiography thing is much harder to prove, and could come off as a reach.

58

I think, politically at least, Murtaugh is gonna be McCain's best chance to get the Ayers issue to stick to Obama. He comes across as a smart guy, very knowledge about the group and he was a victim of Obama's good friend and esteemed education colleague. He puts a human face on The Weather Underground, something McCain and even Palin can't do since this was centuries ago in terms of political time. Let him tell his story to remind everyone.

Let Murtaugh 'say it to his face', and see if Obama has the balls to tell the truth to this guy.

59 "Allahpundit suggests that movement in the Gallup poll may tell us whether this Ayers stuff is helping or hurting McCain."

All the polls are going in different directions now, and appear to be almost random.  So it's hard to tell unless they all start moving for McCain.

In any case, even without immediate impact, he needs to keep landing these body blows.

60

Rush is laying the wood to these media cocksuckers.

61 We need the "They screwed FNMA and dumped it in your laps, they're funding vote fraud all across the country, they've been working overtime to hide the documented terrorist ties of the guy they nominated for President.  These are the dirtiest Democrats since the Civil War.  They've already got the whole Congress, don't give them the Presidency" push.

62

The ad needs to include a clip of Ayers speaking recently about the wonders of classroom revolution -- they're on the net, McCain -- find them! If none of them are workable, find a written passage, full of arrogant vitriol -- he spews it continually.

Do the McCain people even understand the whole issue with Ayers?  If they keep presenting only Ayers' past, Obama can keep blowing it off as the past. There's plenty of material to show that the guy has just as much contempt for America now as he had in his WU days -- and that his new target of indoctrination are America's kids.

63 I think McCain needs to be exposing this relationship because it's the patriotic thing to do and it's his duty to do so. Further, I believe McCain understands this.

If the American people really want to elect a lying associate of domestic Pentagon-attacking Manson-idolizing cop-killing leftist terrorists to the Presidency, then America has truly fallen a great deal. And it's a democracy for the moment so I guess that's how things are.

But it won't be McCain's fault; it will be the American people's fault. God help those stupid assholes, present company excepted.

64 I think it's the cumulative effect we're looking more.

One revelation after another. People talking about it at lunch, at work.

We do not know this guy. He was not vetted.

In a strange way, the way Sarah Palin was treated helps us. If it was fair game for her, we can ask the same questions about him.

This guy is hiding something. One revelation after another.

(I love the McCain ad. I had no idea they would get so direct and go into such detail)

65 Here's the handy-dandy Obama/Ayers Timeline I came up with last week that goes back to the late eighties.

66

Regardless of who wins, the Ayers/Obama thing has ended the ability of Democrats to hang out with left-wing extremists and not get called on it. Which is a good thing.

That's assuming that Obama loses.  If he wins, it sends a pretty clear message that half the country doesn't care whether your oldest friend is a murdering psychopath who you continue to stand by until it's going to cost you something professionally.

67 None of this is going to amount to a bucket of spit unless we see John Murtagh on 60 Minutes or one of the other broadcast networks. I know a lot more people watch FOX, but they're preaching to the choir. The voters who count haven't the slightest idea who this scumbag Ayers and his murderous wife are.

68

"If he wins, it sends a pretty clear message that half the country doesn't care whether your oldest friend is a murdering psychopath who you continue to stand by until it's going to cost you something professionally."

It shouldn't come to anybody as a shock that Communism spread and people still defend it.

69

I just heard a McCain talking head on the radio.

She has no fucking idea who Ayers is...just spouting the Hannity moron-grade "He won't tell you the truth about the guy in his neighborhood", etc...

They don't know who these fucking people are.

70 Getting away with murder

Posted: November 10, 2003 at 6:34 p.m.--

"For three decades, the police murders remained unsolved. Evidence from the two crime scenes sat in the police property room.

KRON 4 News has learned that three years ago, San Francisco police secretly re-opened the case. Armed with new forensic technology and with State and Federal agencies helping, SFPD investigators began to work full-time on the murders.

And now, sources tell us, those investigators have identified potential suspects: former members of two militant groups in the '60s and '70s -- the Weather Underground and the Black Liberation Army, people who've been out of the spotlight for decades. The most prominent among them is Bernadine Dohrn, a former leader of the Weather Underground and now a law professor at Northwestern University in Illinois.

They started as the Weathermen during the latter half of the turbulent '60s. As they became more militant, they changed their name to the Weather Underground. It was a homegrown guerilla movement against the war in Vietnam and injustices at home. Its objective was to wage an armed struggle against the government.

The Weather Underground battled police at anti-war rallies. Members even broke LSD guru Timothy Leary out of prison. They bombed at least two dozen buildings across the country, including the Capitol and the Pentagon. Their targets: military and government offices and police departments.

In the early '70s, some of of the group led by Bernadine Dorhn escaped to the west coast. Dohrn was on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted list. J. Edgar Hoover called her "the most dangerous woman in America."

For a time, according to law enforcement sources, Dohrn and her group lived in the Bay Area on a houseboat in Sausalito. Testimony before a federal grand jury in 1970 allegedly linked Dohrn to a February bombing attack of the Berkeley police department in which two officers were injured. And now, 30 years later, law enforcement sources tell KRON 4 News they believe Dohrn and members of the Weather Underground may have been responsible for the bombing of Park Police Station in San Francisco three days later, a bombing that killed officer Brian McDonnell. But police never had the evidence to prove it.

Dohrn remained a fugitive until 1980, when she and her husband Bill Ayers turned themselves in. Dohrn, who pleaded guilty to battery and jumping bail, was fined and placed on probation."

click handle for story

71

no it does not matter obama's age. Why? because ayers and dorhn have said that their work in education is an attempt to continue their radical agenda of the 70's.

Also, for the folks saying mac should not do this. Were you not the same folks crying that he wasn't doing it?

This is damning. It is also spooled out. Soon it will be focused on how Obama worked on education and juvenile justice with Ayers and Dorhn.

They need an ad asking if America thinks Ayers should be education sec.

Or Rezko as HUD sec.

Obama has so many radical ties, and EVERYTIME he says "i did not know" or "that is not the man i knew"

He is lying, that is what will sink him. Between now and the election he will be forced to speak the truth.

72 Now let's just hope his handlers are finally letting McCain be McCain!
http://jonswift.blogspot.com/2008/10/let-mccain-be-mccain.html

73 > McCain is once again fighting the Commies via the proxy

This has occurred to me more than once, and it gives me a measure of optimism that Senator McCain fully intends to win the election. His opponent is a homonculus created by the people who broke McCain's bones and imprisoned him for over five years.

74

Rush was talking yesterday about how McCain thinks the election is won or lost in the last 72 hours. So, perhaps we'll see these flood TV stations and elsewhere 3 days before the election.

I dunno. Unless there is an unusually high Bradley effect, I think Obama takes it. I'm still going to vote for Palin/McNugget come November, and if I get exit polled I'm telling them I voted for Palin.

I really don't think a ticket with Palin on top would be a loser. I just don't think McCain can carry this thing. Voted for the bailout? Bailing on Michigan? Al Gore in his cabinet? Ugh.

Palin/Palin, 2012!

75 It's a start. Needs to get past the web and on TV while grabbing every microphone and camera in sight, but it's a start.

76 Holy shit!  Obama has been associating with known, unrepentant terrorists for years?  Why am I only just now hearing about this?

77 What and who did Obama associate with at Columbia?

What and who did Obama associate with at Harvard?

What and who did Obama defend as an attorney?

Can we have answers to these questions please!!!???!!!

These are the keys to who Obama is.

78 So glad to see we are finally opening this can of whoopass! Ive been screamin for months about this. Now i see why they waited, hit em hard! Good timing! Let's not forget those assholes at A.C.O.R.N. tie his ass in there as well. It's not going to matter to Obamas zombies , but maybe the great middle idiots who are STILL undesided will pull their collective heads out of their asses!

79

Palin/Palin, 2012!

Posted by: Dr. Medical at October 09, 2008 12:44 PM (jQS9X)

Dr. Medical, you're one of those people I describe as a fool.

80 Actually, I'm overharsh. You're still supporting McCain. I take the fool bit back. I think you're a might naive, however.

81

What's depressing is that the MSM is flat out stonewalling all the various absolutely true crap about The Messiah, and going over the top in digging anything they can up on Palin.  Bits of all the scummy associations and behavior of Obama leak out, but the public has made up its mind and the MSM is not rubbing the public's faces in Obama's dirt.

It seems to me that the dying, increasingly irrelevent MSM still has the power to swing elections if they set their mind to it, as they have done this year.  If the MSM were the least bit evenhanded, Obama would be history.  Would have been history against Hillary.  Ace and other conservative blogs, as well as talk radio, are doing their best, but the message is just not getting out to the masses.

82

I'm thinking we could have some "Harry and Louise" spots with certain parents about how they are paying so much for higher education, and then their kid comes back indoctrinated and/or drug-addicted.

More spending for higher education, as directed by BHO == more money for Ayers and Chomsky.

83 80% of Americans are mad about bailout.

I wish video timeline of

Acorn=Obama=wonky homeloans=downfall of America....setting it up for disaster

84

This Ayers-Dohrn nonsense is fiddling while Rome burns. I hope it keeps him warm in Sedona for the next four years. Every minute that McCain wastes pursuing this line is a minute not spent laying out the details of a plan to right the ship after the Dems' mishandling of the mortgage stuff, is a minute not dissecting Obama's tax increases, is a minute not giving honest, considered, right-of-center policy points that 271 electoral votes' worth of people can vote for.

McCain is being poorly advised. The same morons who advised him to pull out of Michigan (great morale-booster, John; the resources you save by cutting MI loose are trounced by orders of magnitude by the perception that you're on the ropes--nothing says "this thing's in the can" like leaving a state. Hell, he could've left one office open and said nothing...) are the ones who've said "attack Barry on Ayers."

Here's the bottom line: people don't care about Ayers. He's an asshole, he's a terrorist, he's nobody to pal around with, if justice was served he'd be doing time. I get it. America gets it. But people are not going to not vote for McCain because of Ayers. Why? Because Ayers is an anachronism for the voting public every bit as much as the whole "Dr. No" ad. It gets no traction, it's not going to win the election. It's a dog that don't hunt.

Where's the outrage? Does that matter? Doesn't seem to.

If being dead right is the goal, then yes: nail Obama on Ayers, lose the election, and carry your chin high. "At least we can show the Dems they can't pal around with 60s leftists with impunity." Sure, chump, keep the consolation prize. Like they care if they get the girl and you get the stuffed monkey.

If putting the Chicago Jesus away on November 4 is the goal, then drop this Ayers angle, beat the drum on the guy's lack of experience for every minute up to the 4th, and pitch--HARD--on righting the economy from a conservative perspective.

 

85 I got an email yesterday which stated that Obama would not be eligible to be a secret service man because of his association with an unrepentant terrorist.  So how is it that a man who would not be eligible to guard the President can BE the President?  I guess it is the same question we asked of Clinton - who also would have been ineligible for a security clearance....never mind (sigh).

86 Does anyone else have trouble running these videos in Firefox?

It loads and starts playing the video, albeit with no volume, then stops after about 2 or 3 seconds.

Any solutions...???

Mike

87 "Does anyone else have trouble running these videos in Firefox?"

Download the latest version of flash.  Fixed the problem for me.

88

Actually, I'm overharsh. You're still supporting McCain. I take the fool bit back. I think you're a might naive, however.

Rough talk for a gasbag and a non-native one at that...

89 Bernadette Dorn is teh hotness!!!!11! i bet she smells just like Obama's plane!!!!!

90

Barack Obama: If Pakistan is unable or unwilling to attend a party thrown by terrorists I will cross the border to attend. All socializing options will remain on the table.

I went on Dkos. I don't think I can ever do it again. There was however one unintentionally funny comment that stated with regards to the Ayers allegations, [it can't be true because] "if this were true, that would mean everyone who voted for Obama is an idiot."  Alas, I had no login to agree with this comment.

The main opinion on Dkos front page is that it is "treasonous" to criticize Obama. I skimmed but did not find a single comment that actually addresses the truthfulness of the claims directly and not a single negative word about Ayers. Their main argument is that if it were true why wasn't it brought up before.

91 Well it WAS brought up before...  By Hillary.  But of course the Kossacks banned the Hillarites.

92 #55 From Bill H at http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2099220/posts

William Ayers, UIC, College of Education; author of Fugitive Days Douglass Cassel, Northwestern University, Center for International Human Rights Cathy Cohen, University of Chicago, Political Science Salim Muwakkil, Chicago Tribune; In These Times Barack Obama, Illinois State Senator Barbara Ransby, UIC, African-American Studies (moderator)

Oh look! The Gang's all here!

Barbara Ransby was class of 84 at Columbia.

Ayers was Class of 84 at Bank Street College (Less than a quarter mile form Columbia)

Obama was class of 83 from Columbia.

Nah! I bet they never knew each other in New York...

93 railwriter: "Here's the bottom line: people don't care about Ayers. He's an asshole, he's a terrorist, he's nobody to pal around with, if justice was served he'd be doing time. I get it. America gets it. But people are not going to not vote for McCain because of Ayers. Why? Because Ayers is an anachronism for the voting public every bit as much as the whole 'Dr. No' ad. It gets no traction, it's not going to win the election. It's a dog that don't hunt."

In and of itself, it probably isn't enough, but it's still a hell of a debit that many voters still haven't heard about. The MSM has embargoed investigative stories on the Ayers-Obama association. Many would be shocked to know how socialist and radical Obama is, except that Obama has been trained to conceal who he is. He learned it from Team Ayers, a terrorist/socialist radical who worked underground and concealed to carry on in his activism. That is the shield that must be penetrated.

Now it is. That is step one. Step two is to link the radicalization of academia/students, ACORN, voter fraud, and Fannie/Freddie into the whole story and produce the complex timeline of associations and coordination along the way. Ayers is the apex of the pyramid. Everything, from employment, training, molding, writing, funding - everything - about Obama's adult life radiates within the orbit of Ayers.

It's a stepwise process of educating the voter. Team McCain is attacking exactly what they need to first to get to the underlying structure leading to the economic failure created by Obama's past and Democrat's present.

Keep the faith. This is a big deal, but McCain must pound on this every day, adding a little bit more every other day to advance the story. The public won't wholly appreciate just the bombing time until they understand the whole essence and depth of Obama's radicalism.

94 I'm not so sure that Obama had any significant association, if any,with Ayers prior to 1995.  I say this based on the lack of anyone coming forward to say they saw them together no matter how innocuous prior to 1995.  Also Obama's denials leave no wiggle room.  An association may not kill his chances but a coverup would and their is no reason why he would take that chance.

95 their = there

96 If looking into whether W got a pass by going into the National Guard 40 years ago is a story, I just don't see why this isn't a story.  It just makes me sick that Fox is the only news outlet willing to cover this story. 

This is why I feel like tossing in the towel so often.  The only place that I get any satisfaction is on the web and that could be yanked from us too if this bastard wins.  If Bambi is willing to dispatch a corps of lawyers to insure the "truth" about him is not distorted, just think of what he will do when he has an Attorney General and leagues of US Attorneys to work with.

97

#37   Bravo, CJ !!!

 

And at the end, have McCain look right at Obama and say"You make me sick to my stomach !"

 

 

98 Also Obama's denials leave no wiggle room.

Who needs wiggle room when the press is covering your ass and your words mean whatever you say that they mean that particular day (e.g. I'll meet with them without preconditions means I'll meet with them after the proper diplomatic preparation has taken place)?

99

Who needs wiggle room when the press is covering your ass and your words mean whatever you say that they mean that particular day

He leaves no wiggle room on the date he was first introduced to Ayers.  No room for interpretation by the media or anyone else. Otherwise, he has left plenty wiggle room regard to the relationship he had with Ayers.

100 It looks like the Obamatons might be trying to deep six the Ayers ad, it's been flagged as inappropriate by the "Youtube user community."

101 Well that top Ayers ad by McCain camp has been flagged by youtube...bastards...
http://tinyurl.com/4zr4zu
Howie just said it is being filtered by websense---sites adult content

102

It looks like the Obamatons might be trying to deep six the Ayers ad, it's been flagged as inappropriate by the "Youtube user community."

That is why it must be run on TV.

103 The more I think about this, the more it disgusts me.  I know there are a lot of good Democrats out there, misguided but essentially good people.  Out of all those good but misguided Democrats that were available to be buddies with Obama, he chooses a couple that want to destroy our country, that feel they didn't blow up our national icons enough, that thought that stabbing a pregnant woman in the stomach with a meat fork was 'wild'.  There are so many misguided but essentially good people available that are obviously willing to help Obama, but he still felt the need to buddy up to these psychopaths.  It's like saying you've got a beautiful meal in front of you, prepared with loving hands, but instead you'd prefer to go eat out of the dumpster behind the local biker bar.  The dumpster where someone puked an hour ago so it's cold and gelatinous puke, not warm and appetizing puke.

104 The Associated Press:

"At another time, a man in the bleaches shouted "No more ACORN," referring to a group that registers poor voters."

No other context provided. Shameless.

105 It doesn't matter what they do on Youtube, you better believe that this is a 90 second TV spot. The RNC and McCain have way more cash on hand then Obama, yet Obama has outspent them 3-1. All that money needs to be used somewhere!

106 McCain is apparently whacking the Fanny/Freddy + Democrats & The One link now.

107 We'll hear about Dohrn.

Wait for Obama to spin some more nonsense, and let the Dorhn story be presented as the clear refutation of his nonsense.

Example: Senator Obama says these things happened in the '60's.  Here's what Bernadine Dohrn was doing in the '80's.  In New York.  While Obama was there attending Columbia and "palling around" with... (good chance to toss in the Marxist and otherwise anti-American professors that Obama admits he was sucking up to at the time...)

We're going to make the case to the American people that Obama is a dangerous radical by putting these shady characters before the public one at a time, two or three each week between now and the election.

Far more effective than trying to paint the whole picture at once...

108 No room for interpretation by the media

The MSM isn't gonna investigate or otherwise try to interpret shit on this, thus Bambi has no worries about this whole matter.  It's all CBA, all the time.

109

That's assuming that Obama loses.  If he wins, it sends a pretty clear message that half the country doesn't care whether your oldest friend is a murdering psychopath who you continue to stand by until it's going to cost you something professionally.

Alice, I really think most Dems will conclude it's not worth the trouble. (Not worth the benefit that hanging with an extremist will bring.) I'll bet that a bunch of Democrats are scrubbing their history of extremist associations.

If not, then it's the Republicans' fault for not making the case loudly and consistently enough.

110 Why hasn't some enterprising reporter trooped up to Bill Ayers' door and done one of those stock live-shot "refused to comment".  "We tried to ask Bill Ayers' about his relationship with Barack Obama, but Ayers' wasn't talking."  They would with anyone else.

CNN did this.  They sent a reporter to Ayers home to request an interview.  Someone answered the door that was not Bill Ayers and was not Bernadine Dohrn.

111

If putting the Chicago Jesus away on November 4 is the goal, then drop this Ayers angle, beat the drum on the guy's lack of experience for every minute up to the 4th, and pitch--HARD--on righting the economy from a conservative perspective.

Now? You think he has a chance NOW to make an economic pitch? The entire economy dicussion at this point is 1. The Bailout and 2. Who caused the problem.

McCain should have made the case in the debate that #2 was the result of Democrat overreaching. He didn't. He still can. And the campaign (not necessarily McCain) can still hit him on Ayers.Both.

I seriously doubt that if McCain had visited the home of an abortion bomber in 1995, the Dems would say "Don't bring it up. Let's talk about the capital gains tax."

112 Websense blocking Ayers video....
http://tinyurl.com/4euk9o

It needs to go on the air. Obama camp appears to be a "tad" nervous about this one.

113 Thanks David.

114 Anonymous--thanks, you caught my bad in highlight. Mistyped.

CJ: I just don't think that there's enough time on the clock to adequately pitch the convoluted "Ayers=Obama" line. It should've been the first thing in ads in the first week after the convention. Now there's not nearly enough time to make the byzantine connections that some folks need handwalking through.

Ask yourself: what is voter word association with the below?

Stock market: "holy shit, my 401k is horsefucked."
Mortgages: "Should I refinance now? How much will rates jump?" etc.
William Ayers: (?)

Now's the time to make a simple, hardcore, sensible pitch: "lower taxes, Wall Street public hangings, drill baby drill, The One hasn't run anything. Oh, and Up-Do is hotter than Mullet"

It won't be played, though, which is why--among other reasons--McCain is going to pull out a squeaker in a month.

115

railwriter,

This is not complicated. How complicated was Willie Horton? Forget the byzentine connections.

Sen. Obama launched his political career in the home of a man who bombed the U.S. Capitol and a woman who refused to testify against cop-killers. Period.

lower taxes, Wall Street public hangings, drill baby drill

I'm OK with that. You need that. Policy + Character  Every election is about both.

116 isn't going to pull out a

sorry. I'm on full re todd it. I own it.

Out.

117 Obama's off-the-cuff Ayers response notes found!

http://tinylink.com/?ssrGwfOGxg

118 Let's be clear, CJ--I don't need it. I wouldn't vote for the junior senator from the great state of Illinois even if I thought I was gonna get a unicorn, like, for real.

Point taken re Horton. It's great window-dressing, and you're right, it's not that complicated. If Obama was on the ropes, Ayers could be the final straw. That's not the scenario, though, and it's not the movie the voters wanna watch.

I'm saying that the dude with the hurtin' pocketbook gives less of a damn about Ayers than he does about whether or not his retirement is in full-fucking-freefall.

Those folks need to be sold, and Ayers isn't the wallet pitch. Ayers is the post-election rally-the-angry-troops-for-congressional-seats-in-2010 pitch.

119

New slogan for Barack:

Obama knows how to deal with terrorists. He's been dealing with them for years.

Bill Ayers founded a group that murdered police, killed its own members, and claimed responsibility for 25 bombings. Will Sen. Obama please tell us what body count Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn must reach before he would consider it inappropriate to hold a fundraiser at their home? What are Sen. Obama's beliefs and standards? How much do you have to hate this country and how much do you have to harm it before Obama will get ticked off.

 

120 railwriter, while this is percolating on the web, McCain is whacking the Freddy/Fanny connections.

Not as hard as he could, perhaps.

But the pieces all actually tie together. Put each piece out separately. Establish them individually. Then point out the cross-links. (Like suing Citibank for ACORN, knowing Dohrn, etc.)

121

Al:

At least 45% of the country thinks Obama is qualified to be president.

These are the same mouth-breathers you want to walk through ACORN, MacMae, Dohrn, Obama, housing collapse. Through the MSM. In three weeks.

You're a glass-half-full kinda guy, aren't ya?

 

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