1

Why would the media follow up if they are also Communists?

Crazy times we live in...

2 Sigh...follow-up?  Why would the MSM want to do that?

It's not something that I've heard too many people say in the past couple of months...but how much is the national political discussion missing Tim Russert right now?  Say what you want about his personal politics, but as an interviewer, the man was, by and large, eminently fair, and, most importantly, tough on both sides.

3

If we covered this, we'd have to put more people on Palin's non-existent membership in the AIG, and we're running low on people to send because, as you know, we're in a recession.

So we're not going to be able to cover this.  Our teams are still busy going through the dumpsters in Wasilla.  We're sure there's something there.

4 Ace, a flaming skull is maybe appropriate here????

5 Alaska Independence Group?  (AIG?)

6 I will personally and literally kiss obama's ass if both the NY Times and MSNBC do an indepth report on this.

7

Obama's a socialist?  Eh.

Palin's a Christian?  Alert the media.

8 There's actually quite a bit more on this.

Unfortunately, it's over at Larry Johnson's web site.

But, amazingly, it's pretty well-sourced.

Go to The Corner, and scroll down to 9:40 this morning, for a link (I won't even provide a link to a link for Johnson) if you're interested.

9
He says, at the time he didn't know they were socialists.  And Marx & Engels came up with communism when Obama's great great grandfather was 7 years old.  So it's okay.

10
New Party?  What New Party?

11 This is old. I read about it months ago.

12 This story is going viral. There are dozens of sites reporting this, can someone get it to drudge? Will he run it?

13

"He says, at the time he didn't know they were socialists.  And Marx & Engels came up with communism when Obama's great great grandfather was 7 years old.  So it's okay."

Exactly!  Now we can use that to avoid covering this, too.

Phew!

14 It was the "convincer" to look for more ties to socialist/communist front organizations.

15 This is good stuff.

16 AKIP, not AIG.

17 I guess it's just getting picked up now thanks to smarmy Johnson. But it was reported on waaaaay back.

18

"Palin's a Christian?  Alert the media."

We're on it!  Not going to have some snack handler taking away our abortions!

19 What do you think the odds are that the October Surprise is that Obama was a wanna-bee WU member?

20 Might want an "AIP" up top, great post otherwise.  I wish to God more Americans knew just how dangerous socialism is, but the electorate seems willfully ignorant (and most leftists have already drunk the Kool-Aid).

21

Barry is a flat out Communist.

And so are a shit load of Americans, especially the ones that the education machine gets their fangs into.

Accept the Soviet...here it comes.

22 Isn't "Larry Johnson" the asshole Clintonite that claimed he had tape that would completely sink Obama and then welch on the deal?

Examine the fuck out of this. Twice.

Or... hat tip to Hillary.

23 I started following this awhile ago at No Quarter.

http://tinyurl.com/43n8dz

BTW, just heard 2 American journalist's are missing in Lebanon

24 The linked page http://tinyurl.com/48wepz from the PDOP site makes it clear that Obama was not just endorsed, but actually a member.

Compare the party's description of his status, with those from other states, where they are simply identified as "progressive-backed candidates."

I hope this information does some good. It's certainly more germane than Dubya's D-Dubya-I, which was supposed to cost him the election in 2000....

25 This is not the Democratic Socialists of America party that I used to know...

26 How does pointing this out help my children?

27

Where is the ghost of Lee Atwater when we need him? Now's the time for some smashmouth negative ads.

28 As a conservative Christian, I have voted for rethuglicans for the last 20 years.  But I can no longer turn a blind eye to the hatred and racism coming out of the right.  Accordingly, I will be voting for Barack Obama.

29 This only has the potential of mattering if Sarah picks up on it.  Even then it may not matter.  Otherwise, meh.  I have no doubt that this is who Bambi is.  Funny, but he'll get elected by a combination of people not knowing and people not caring.

30

Ace,

Good, you're awake. Althought this wasn't exactly what I was asking you for the other day when I wanted you to find what the CAC wanted the kids in Chicago to learn, this may even be better.

Your gift certificate for a big bottle of Valu-Rite, the big one with the nice glass handle, is in the mail.

Thanks,

BB

 

31 "How does pointing this out help my children?"

In a better world, it would get them placed into foster care.

32 That "electoral fusion" shit is scary, fringe political parties attempting to co-opt the majors. Good thing that SCOTUS knocked 'em back, but it's a telling window into the minds of these cocksuckers (keeping the numbers up....).

33 11 This is old. I read about it months ago.

Posted by: SarahW at October 08, 2008 02:49 PM (7sl9X)

The news isn't that him being a member is being reported - the news is that he can't DENY it anymore.

34 OMG, did you just do a non-ironic link to Crazy Larry?

What a world.

35 Obama makes the Clintons look like pikers.

36

Well, this should have an impact with all the undecideds who read "Punch Drunk With Power" blog

We're fucked

wah..wah...waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

37 OMG, did you just do a non-ironic link to Crazy Larry?

Cats and dogs, living together.  Mass hysteria.

38 Time to spread this.  Start posting it on every blog.  this is major.  major. 

39 34 OMG, did you just do a non-ironic link to Crazy Larry?


HEH - Ace can be excused, Scary Larry has a boatload of bloggers now so its diluted crazy.

40 Thanks for posting Ace.  Keep up the good work.

41

Huh.  I think that there is no way the MSM media touches this. 

Maybe if Drudge linked and/or Rush etc. used it.

It better be an airtight link though.

42

BTW, just heard 2 American journalist's are missing in Lebanon
At least Hizb'Allah didn't do it--they were kicked out of Lebanon a long time ago.

43 comment #24, your link gave me a
"path not found" error

44 Bleg: Can someone -- multiple people, really -- start backing up the archive.org pages Politically Drunk found, before they are disappeared?-- says ACE!

45 Redstate had all this back in June also

http://tinyurl.com/45ebep

46

Is this the October surprise?

47 cleansing the internets - deleting links

48

Ace, I'm guessing you tried to color the headline red, but used the little-known "fong color" HTML coding, instead of the more generally accepted "font color" code.

But then again, I'm a...  you guessed it.  Moron.

49 Obama will spin this affiliation, however ACORN-heavy it is, as time spent trying to change the two-party electoral system of America.   With so many people supposedly pissed at the two party system, watch Axelrod attempt to turn this particular work experience into gold--and probably succeed.

I am sick at the thought--sorry for bringing it up.

50 I'm afraid we are getting to the dead girl/live boy part of the campaign.  MSM has come to far shoveling anything that might hurt the one under the rug.  They are not going to let a little thing like the membership in a fringe group throw them off their stride.  This does seem right up Drudge's alley though.

51 This is good but we need to put Ayers in the mix. Was Ayers a member and or officer of The New Party?

52 The sad fact is that in the 90's the Democratic Party moved center-right. The centrists led by Clinton and the DLC took over. It's good to see America moving to the Left again. The upshot is that there will be pressure on the GOP to move to the center and start listening to people like David Brooks, Andrew Sullivan, and Tom Davis.

53 "used the little-known "fong color" HTML coding, instead of the more generally accepted "font color" code"

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIST!

54 Posted by: John F. Reed at October 08, 2008 03:20 PM (wuyYn)

Heh.  That's pretty good.

.


.


Wait.  You're serious?

55 the New Party in the
>Windy City. NP-backed candidates Danny K. Davis (U.S. House), Miguel Del
>Valle (State Senate), and Willie Delgado (State House) all won easily. New
>Party, ACORN, and SEIU Local 880 members worked the polls in four wards

56 we're kidding ourselves if we think this will make a bit of difference. In order for it to explode, we need McCain to push it, which we know he wont. As much as I hate to say it, we need Oreilly and Hannity ot pump this on air.

57 and in 2006 Obama went to Keyna and Campaigned for a Radical Socialist Thug who has committed Ethnic Cleansing since then.

58 I've archived the Politically Drunk links at my place:

October Update

Progressive Populist Editorial

New Ground article

59

This isn�t Molly Line, why the flaming skull? Ok, its only one.

60 I knew back in MAY that Obama had sought and gotten the endorsement from The New Party.  I didn't know that he was a member as this new evidence demonstrates, until today.

61 Sadly, this won't go anywhere. The "narrative" is too "complicated."

62 I just dumped this into the comments @ Michelle Malkin's place, with a plea for help. If anyone can rocket-boost this story, she's the lady for the job. Nice catch, Ace. Let's nail this Marxist prick to the goddamned wall.

63

11 points in gallup

Fucking bloodbath a'comin

64
Here is more on this, including a juicy YouTube video:

http://tinyurl.com/4wpudt

65

'I was not the Communist I once knew. I am the New Communist, just a slightly Changed Old Communist'

Barrak O

This explains Mccain's hatred, wasn't he tortured by Commununists for 5 years? ..... ohh those were the Old Communists.

The More things Change, the more they get Insane.

66 Barak Obama is serving only his second term in the Illinois State Senate so he might be fairly charged with ambition, but the same might have be said of Bobby Rush when he ran against Congressman Charles Hayes. Obama also has put in time at the grass roots, working for five years as a community organizer in Harlem and in Chicago. When Obama participated in a 1996 UofC YDS Townhall Meeting on Economic Insecurity, much of what he had to say was well within the mainstream of European social democracy.

That paragraph really doesn't need much explanation.
Has Obama ever claimed to be a community organizer in Harlem?
I'm assuming this was while he was at Columbia?
More Ayers activity?

67 John F. Reed thinks Andrew Sullivan is in and of the Right. That's pathetic. Somebody grab young John a juice box and pull a red and blue mat off the wall for him. It's that time of the afternoon.

68

Another equally disturbing person who deserves a lot of scrutiny is Mike Klonsky.  Klonsky was an SDS/Weathermen colleague of Ayers and Dohrn and one who remains very close to Ayers.  So close in fact that Ayers and Klonsky worked on the Small Schools Workshop in Chicago.  So close in fact that the Annanberg Challenge which Ayers and Obama ran gave Klonsky a $175,000.

Here's what Klonsky was up to after the demise of SDS:

Between 1979 and 1981, the CPML, which had become internationally recognized as China's favorite American party (CPML chairman Mike Klonsky was repeatedly feted with state-dinner-level visits to Beijing), dissolved in a rapid series of factional splits and departures. Elbaum sadly relates the human and emotional toll exacted by the movement's implosion, as "many veterans experienced something resembling post-traumatic stress syndrome." For many, their bitterness was so profound that they "simply abandoned political work altogether."

Not to worry, he found his way back into politics when he found the right candidate.

Up until earlier this year when he joined Wright, Pflegler, Obama's typically white granny and host of others under the bus, Mike Klonsky, former SDS/Weathermen terrorist, close friend of Ayers, and proud communist , chairman of the CPML party and supporter of communist China, was a blogger for Obama.

How the hell does The One explain this one away?

69 Wait. We are surprised that Obama is a socialist?

70 Everyone sent this to Drudge, right?

71

I get the feeling that the RNC has a whole bunch of dirt they were saving for October.  And Hillary is contributing her share of juicy tidbits.  And the next three/four weeks will see tons of shocking stuff come out.

Kinda like how Ali just f'ing WAILED on his opponent with punches too fast to count, after rope-a-doping for round after round.

The avalanche will be too much, too late for Obama to counter.  And McCain will pull out the win.

Great theory, huh?

72 Wait. We are surprised that Obama is a socialist?

No. We have to make a good argument for it. You see, when every institution tells the uninterested voter that socialism is good, him just being socialist and advocating such policies isn't enough of an argument against him.

Of course, one could argue that this means we long ago lost.

73 How the hell does The One explain this one away?

"Words have meaning (whatever meaning I choose to give them)."

That and the fact that he's not called on to explain anything.  And you act as if he and the MSM think these things are bad.  Why does he need to explain something that is inherently good?

74 "Great theory, huh?"

I think you should cross-post it at the Everything's Awesome blog. Title it something like "Mudslinging's awesome," or "Rovian tactics are awesome."

(But I hope you're right.)

75 PLEASE McCain camp make an ad of this.  PLEASE!

76 Hey Morons, cheer up. I emailed this flaming skull ball-dipping awesomeness to hannity, Weekend Live and the McCain Campaign this morning. And I told McCain to let Sarah run with this bitch.

77 Keep up the good fight, Ace.

78 To pre-empt the communists' conspiracy theories:

KARL ROVE HACKED THE WAYBACK MACHINE, PLANTED EVIDENCE, AND KILLED MISTER PEABODY!

Magnificent bastard!

79 When is the New York Times going to write a breathless front-page story about Obama's New Party connections?

I can hear the MSM drumbeat now:  Barack Obama wasn't properly vetted.

80 Ace,
 The endorsement has been known for awhile. This is the first thing which shows Obama was actually a member of the NP and attended meetings. Not just a glad handing politician trying to get every and any endorsement he can.

81 Obama's currrent official campaign blogger, Sam Graham Felson is an avowed Socialist.

Sorry, I can't get the linky thingy to work, but trust me.

Google:  Reds Who Support Obama.

82 Multiple sources for O links to New Party here

Who knows what useful clues lie within.

Here is a late May article by Warner Huston

83 BTW, it sucks to have to use tinyurl for formatted links.

84 John F. Reed thinks Andrew Sullivan David Brooks is in and of the Right. That's pathetic.

From HuffPo:

"David Brooks spoke frankly about the presidential and vice presidential candidates Monday afternoon, calling Sarah Palin a "fatal cancer to the Republican party" but describing John McCain and Barack Obama as "the two best candidates we've had in a long time."

If this happens to be true, then I hope the Republican party doesn't go for chemo.  Where has Bush being more like the Demos gotten the Republicans?

85 #78, I note that he NAILED the font style for 1996.  The two-tone marble block lettering?  Perfect!

86 Of course, one could argue that this means we long ago lost.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 08, 2008 03:45 PM (4yauu)

Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

87

Where has Bush being more like the Demos gotten the Republicans?

Another intellectually lazy comment. 

88

What is wrong with McCain's campaign staff?  Can't they tape him practicing debating, etc., and give him some constructive criticism.... please?

McCain assumes that the public is as well-read as he is, so he mentions things but never follows through to "connect the dots".  As a result, the "undecideds" have no idea what McCain is talking about.  He needs to be more EXPLICIT and SPELL EVERYTHING OUT.

I fault his campaign staff... they SUCK if they think the average person is a policital junkie, political science major, tax specialist.

MOST PEOPLE need to have stuff spelled out!  Example -- most people do NOT know that Obama can't give a tax cut to 95% of the people, because at least half of them are already paying no taxes.  WHY CAN'T MCCAIN'S STAFF GET HIM TO DO THAT?

This is making me crazy....

 

 

 

 

89 Everything's Awesome Sucks.  As I was typing my last post, I got a phone call from the McCain campaign and let it go through to the machine.

Here are the talking points:

1) Barak/Congressional allies too extreme for America.  2) Congress/Barack making politics more divisive.  3) Juan/Sarah have history of reaching across the aisle.  4, 5 6) Running against own party leadership to break the "old boy" network, pork and wasteful spending.

My reaction, 1st point: no shit, 2nd point: who cares, 3rd point: retching a little, 4,5, 6th points: really I didn't know that. Tell me, did John serve in the military too? Because if he did, then he's got my vote.

Does this appeal to anybody out there?

This thing is fucking over.

90 On a more serious note, with the media horde descending on Wasilla to read every scrap about Sarah Palin in the Mat-Su Frontiersman, I wonder if any media organization has sent just one reporter to look through back issues of Obama's neighborhood newspaper, the Hyde Park Herald.

For some reason, I doubt it.

91 DBKP backed up all of the Internet archive pages in question as soon as we accessed them....there were only 2--but they were long pages.  They're safely in our archives.

92 So when can we update the New Party's page at Wikipedia?

93 "This thing is fucking over."

Then crawl off into your hole and stop commenting.

94

Where has Bush being more like the Demos gotten the Republicans?

Another intellectually lazy comment. 

OK, I'll get off my ass and name a few of things if that makes you happy.  One, fucking federal spending has gone through the roof.  Two, Medicare Prescription Drug boondoggle.  Three, NCLB co-authored by the drunk senator from Massachusetts who has been in office longer than I've been alive.

And maybe I should have said, where has it gotten us?

95 bump this thread:

http://tiny.cc/IHkJ1

96
Move along, nothing to see here...

Oh Look!  A shiny nickel...

97 And maybe I should have said, where has it gotten us?

It got the GOP an unprecedentedly-cooperative-with-the-big-government-Democrats candidate, namely McCain (though Nixon was no lazy faire advocate himself). Of course, you'd think Bush's big-government would appeal to the commies agitating for just that, but it doesn't.

While you'd think that would at least make McCain more electable, the opposition is built on a campaign of disinformation, evidently driven by an underlying nihilism that seeks to destroy everything in order remake it under its own power.

There's an ideology there, but it's not what they want you to think it is.

98 Question

Moveon.org started in 1998 when the NP stopped. Any relation between the two ?

99 Odd, after drew took a crap all over noquarter on this site yesterday as being nothing but shit peddlers and slapping me for posting it in the debate thread, now we see a link to the story.

Oh well, as long as we get the word out.

100 no apology neccessary. hehe

101 Does this appeal to anybody out there?

This thing is fucking over.

I'll rephrase it then -- If not, then this thing is fucking over because Juan sure as hell isn't gonna go after Bambi as hard as he's been having Sarah do.  Five minutes of bashing Bambi about FM/FM the other day and everybody thought that he was finally gonna take it to him.  Then he tried to out-Democrat the Democrats last night by saying the Fed should by up bad mortgages and renegotiate them.

So sorry that my pessimistic opinions don't please you.  Yes, there is a world of difference between Juan and Bambi.  If he does win and manages to "break the old boy network, pork and wasteful spending, then he should be christened "the One".

102

  One, fucking federal spending has gone through the roof.  Two, Medicare Prescription Drug boondoggle.  Three, NCLB co-authored by the drunk senator from

Bush's deficit in relation to GDP is less than Reagan's.  Besides your #1 being basically the same as your general complaint of #2 and #3,  both these programs have arguably been a success. I guess Ronald Reagan was more like a Demo because of his two of his Supreme Court picks or his signing of the amnesty bill or his failure to do away with the Dept of Education or the fact we lost more seats in Congress during his time than Bush's or his failure to try to reform SS or his withdrawal from Lebannon or the number of indictments / convictions of his administration or his friendly relationship with Tip O'Neil.  The disconnect between calling Reagan the greatest conservative ever and calling Bush a RINO is astounding.  An intellectually honest person would find a middle ground.

103 Reagan's 1986 income tax reform goes a long way toward making up for other issues, in my mind.

104

Anonymous at October 08, 2008 05:19 PM (4yauu

Hope you did not misunderstand me. I think Reagan is in the top 3 of our greatest Presidents. 

105 No, I understand what you meant. Just saying that I can't point to anything that comes up to that level with Bush (though the grief Democrats continue to express over the tax cuts is delicious, and IIRC there have been a couple of choice vetos).

On the other hand, while not as bad as most RINOs, Bush's "compassionate conservatism" smells like liberalism to me. Well, I guess that's middle ground...

106 President George W. Bush is definitely a socially conservative republican. His committment to fiscal conservatism is inconsistent, but he has had to deal with two foreign and a Congress that refused his SS proposal.

Bush's main break with the GOP is on immigration. However, he is personally consistent. Bush abhors isolationism in all of it's aspects.

In recent weeks Bush has nationalized AIG and started directly lending to the banks. If the Bailout fails then I predict that Bush will go the "full monty" by nationalizing the banks much as Iceland was forced to do.

No single person or political party is responsible. This is a systemic crisis.

107 ah, I should have typed "foreign wars"

108 If the Bailout fails then I predict that Bush will go the "full monty" by nationalizing the banks much as Iceland was forced to do.

Then, he cancels the elections and declares himself President for Life of the new North American Union!!11!!1!!

*adjusts tin foil hat to block evil mindrays

109 Just a hint-- the <A href="http://www.google.com/search2001.html">Google 2001</a> index is really handy because you can find things before the Astroturfing made it hard to find things through the clutter.

http://www.google.com/search2001.html

110

I heard Hugh Hewitt quoting this post on his radio show today.

He didn't call it a "smart military blog," though.

111 Here is a 1995 article.....veeewy damaging!

http://tinyurl.com/3r2wod

About 50 activists attended the Chicago New Party membership meeting in July. The purpose of the meeting was to update members on local activities and to hear appeals for NP support from four potential political candidates. The NP is being very active in organization building and politics. There are 300 members in Chicago. In order to build an organizational and financial base the NP is sponsoring house parties. Locally it has been successful both fiscally and in building a grassroots base. Nationwide it has resulted in 1000 people committed to monthly contributions. The NP's political strategy is to support progressive candidates in elections only if they have a concrete chance to "win". This has resulted in a winning ratio of 77 of 110 elections. Candidates must be approved via a NP political committee. Once approved, candidates must sign a contract with the NP. The contract mandates that they must have a visible and active relationship with the NP.

The political entourage included Alderman Michael Chandler, William Delgado, chief of staff for State Rep Miguel del Valle, and spokespersons for State Sen. Alice Palmer, Sonya Sanchez, chief of staff for State Sen. Jesse Garcia, who is running for State Rep in Garcia's District; and Barack Obama, chief of staff for State Sen. Alice Palmer. Obama is running for Palmer's vacant seat.

112 I have made a backup on my site. You have to assume archive.org will remove this page. It won't be removed from my server though. Thanks for bringing this to light. People have to hear this.

113

Obama needs to cut his ties to ACORN and their nation-wide voter fraud actions! http://tinyurl.com/6nra74

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